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Feb 18 08:49:07 <Herrie|Laptop> Morning!
Feb 18 08:49:48 <Tofe> Morning!
Feb 18 09:26:18 <Herrie|Laptop> OK raid is fixed for my 4.20 kernel, turned out it needed some simple patching so it's linked properly in 4.20 kernel ;)
Feb 18 09:30:54 <Herrie|Laptop> Do have other funny issue now... Managed to get my krfb and VNC server to behave.. However on the PC itself I now just get a terminal :S
Feb 18 09:31:13 <Herrie|Laptop> Which is not the end of the world, since I hardly ever use it directly but still
Feb 18 10:05:48 <elvispre|cloud> Morning!
Feb 18 11:10:04 <elvispre|cloud> Herrie|Laptop: the reason I asked about preware 2 feeds yesterday is that its content has been 0 for months.
Feb 18 11:11:22 <elvispre|cloud> I thought that might have the same cause as the legacy feeds issue.
Feb 18 11:21:29 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre|cloud: Ah ok, wasn't sure where that was coming from... Well there's only a few apps in there anyway
Feb 18 11:24:03 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre|cloud: For LuneOS we have a separate Jenkins job: http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/job/luneos-preware-feeds/
Feb 18 11:24:10 <Herrie|Laptop> I just kicked it off to see what it does
Feb 18 11:24:21 <Herrie|Laptop> Could be novaldex needs to do some magic :P
Feb 18 11:25:00 <novaldex> did someone say my name? ;)
Feb 18 11:27:36 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Yes LOL :P
Feb 18 11:28:24 <novaldex> whta kind of magic are we looking for today do we think?
Feb 18 11:28:27 <novaldex> *what
Feb 18 11:31:18 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Seems we're all good
Feb 18 11:31:22 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre|cloud: https://github.com/webOS-ports/preware/blob/f0f8ef1edefd92f35a1e82845ce6946b3a848ee4/control/postinst#L76
Feb 18 11:31:38 <Herrie|Laptop> The job I just ran seems to have populated required bits at: http://feeds.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/all/
Feb 18 11:31:59 <novaldex> now that's the kind of magic I like!
Feb 18 11:36:57 <elvispre|cloud> Herrie|Laptop: Thanks. I shall see what PW 2 does this evening.
Feb 18 11:48:33 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre|cloud: It should work, if not, well then we have another thing to look into...
Feb 18 11:48:39 <Herrie|Laptop> Which brings met to "issues" :P
Feb 18 11:48:44 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: ^ :P
Feb 18 11:49:44 <novaldex> you know, that's something I need to talk to you about as well
Feb 18 11:50:19 <novaldex> would you like it back, as OP, and keep it? or is the plan to migrate to something else 'at some point'?
Feb 18 11:52:35 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: I understood the "Ruby on rails" thing made it "difficult" for you, ka6sox and whoever else was looking into it. I'm happy to switch to something that uses less exotic technology that more people understand
Feb 18 11:53:06 <novaldex> we seem to have solved that issue, dyoung brought it back & is more familiar with it
Feb 18 11:53:11 <Herrie|Laptop> I could work with a simple DB backup and migrate stuff
Feb 18 11:53:18 <Herrie|Laptop> Ah ok, well that helps :)
Feb 18 11:53:19 <novaldex> it's also more 'standard' now as well, the previous installation was far from it
Feb 18 11:53:37 <novaldex> bringing it back as is & letting it run for a bit would seem to be an option
Feb 18 11:53:51 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Fine with me
Feb 18 11:53:53 <novaldex> until say, some other technology that you're happy with was available?
Feb 18 11:54:10 <Herrie|Laptop> We can see how other things work our re infrastructure that we discussed previously and decide on a course of action
Feb 18 11:58:55 <novaldex> i'm also looking at upgrading your main builder from 16.04 to 18.04 too, remembering that just last week you were talking about changes to the build jobs
Feb 18 11:59:10 <novaldex> is that something you feel happy about having happen?
Feb 18 12:02:40 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: It should be fine for our builds I would say. I'm testing locally with 18.04 and don't have issues. There were some Halium issues but those have been identified and addressed as well
Feb 18 12:02:57 <Herrie|Laptop> Slight problem might be the legacy preware feeds again, but can sort that I guess
Feb 18 12:05:49 <novaldex> thanks, will give it a go & let you know
Feb 18 12:52:14 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Could be we need a few extra packages here or there but shouldn't be rocket science
Feb 18 13:06:42 <novaldex> I would hope it isn't rocket science, i've tried doing that.. my calculus was just not up to scratch
Feb 18 13:06:50 <novaldex> a few packages here and there won't be a problem i'm sure
Feb 18 13:07:11 <novaldex> we should document which ones though, just in case of any future changes (or neither of us are available)
Feb 18 13:11:32 <Herrie|Laptop> Well depends if you do clean install or upgrade
Feb 18 13:11:43 <Herrie|Laptop> With upgrade existing packages should be there already
Feb 18 13:28:43 <novaldex> just now i'm doing an upgrade
Feb 18 13:29:01 <novaldex> but i'm thinking should in future someone build one from clean, you never know?
Feb 18 13:30:03 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Well I think we could simply list which packages are installed on the builder?
Feb 18 13:30:39 <Herrie|Laptop> We have some documented at: https://webos-ports.org/wiki/Build_for_Tissot#Setup_the_build_environment
Feb 18 13:32:05 <novaldex> I think that would work well, we'll just keep it updated
Feb 18 14:18:27 <novaldex> Herrie|Laptop: bonaire is now at 18.04.2 LTS and up to date
Feb 18 14:29:35 <Herrie|Laptop> Kicked off some build to test
Feb 18 14:30:49 <novaldex> thanks, just noticed too
Feb 18 14:30:58 <novaldex> the fact it's managed to get a few mins in has to be promising at least?
Feb 18 14:31:39 <Herrie|Laptop> It accounts for something, but all previous builds failed it seems
Feb 18 14:32:04 <Herrie|Laptop> Ah that was due to github issue :p
Feb 18 15:45:04 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Build seems SLOW somehow
Feb 18 15:45:13 <Herrie|Laptop> You see anything weird in terms of CPU/Memory usage?
Feb 18 15:46:44 <novaldex> nothing weird, it's certainly making use of the CPU okay
Feb 18 15:47:14 <novaldex> seems to be building pulseaudio?
Feb 18 15:47:31 <novaldex> or was
Feb 18 15:50:19 <Herrie|Laptop> Just gut feeling it's slow
Feb 18 15:50:21 <Herrie|Laptop> Might be wrong
Feb 18 15:59:17 <novaldex> might just be a first run thing
Feb 18 15:59:26 <novaldex> do you think it's significantly slower?
Feb 18 16:06:59 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop, novaldex: if it's so hard to revive webos preware feeds, maybe it makes sense to introduce new "active" feed, and archive previous?
Feb 18 16:11:43 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Well could just be perception, maybe got spoiled with my new builder @ home :P
Feb 18 16:12:01 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: In general it works, issue is now with some of the "exotic" kernels that fail to build
Feb 18 16:12:04 <Herrie|Laptop> Rest seems OK
Feb 18 16:12:28 <nizovn> ah ok
Feb 18 16:13:20 <Herrie|Laptop> I wonder how those ever worked to be honest
Feb 18 16:13:34 <Herrie|Laptop> And the rest is mainly inconsistencies between various bits it seems
Feb 18 16:13:49 <Herrie|Laptop> I.e. Autopatch and patches repo
Feb 18 16:14:18 <Herrie|Laptop> Where some versions are listed in autopatch, but don't appear in the repo for that webOS version and vice versa
Feb 18 16:14:56 <nizovn> yes, strange
Feb 18 16:15:12 <Herrie|Laptop> So builds don't like that but well
Feb 18 16:15:16 <Herrie|Laptop> Will get there eventually
Feb 18 16:15:27 <Herrie|Laptop> Just need to find more time to run & test like with everything
Feb 18 16:15:41 <Herrie|Laptop> But main mechanisms do work... I.e. feed building and we can sync them too now
Feb 18 16:15:54 <nizovn> ok good
Feb 18 16:18:52 <Herrie|Laptop> Just there were plenty of issues with files being references on original palm servers, which are long gone now, which weren't replicated on http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/ due to the fact that links on http://www.openwebosproject.org/opensource/ which I used for my scraper script were incorrect
Feb 18 16:19:06 <Herrie|Laptop> So I had to manually re-pull them and put them to that location
Feb 18 16:22:25 <Herrie|Laptop> So the toolchain would start to work again
Feb 18 16:24:44 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Mido took 1 hr 57 min which seems OK-ish
Feb 18 22:59:58 <elvispre> Nah. Preware 2 still downloads no packages (on my LuneOS mako, for example), all of the feeds enabled.
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