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Apr 09 05:14:57 <Herrie|Laptop> nuclearkev: Which image did you try?
Apr 09 05:15:06 <Herrie|Laptop> There are some images with latest testing which we're looking into
Apr 09 05:20:16 <Herrie|Laptop> nuclearkev: We did a bunch of major upgrades to various underlying OS-bits and working now to solve some of the remaining issues of which this is one of them.
Apr 09 07:23:19 <Tofe> It's actually the same behvaior I got yesterday with our testing version. Could it be we've broken TP on our latest stable without remaking it ?...
Apr 09 07:24:29 <Tofe> I'll investigate it tonight, but it looks like an issue with the initrd. Trying a previous uImage might do the trick, fwiw
Apr 09 07:41:39 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: We fixed the uImage I remember
Apr 09 07:41:54 <Herrie|Laptop> We uploaded a fixed uImage after release to fix it
Apr 09 07:44:20 <Herrie|Laptop> See http://build.webos-ports.org/releases/doppio/images/tenderloin/ the uImages are from 10th of December while images are from 21st of November
Apr 09 07:46:35 <Tofe> ah, ok, well
Apr 09 07:48:03 <Herrie|Laptop> This fixed it then: https://github.com/shr-distribution/meta-smartphone/commit/a4e355927a6904c1d9f0368bd8ee10b9f7c844b3
Apr 09 08:18:25 <Tofe> ah, yes, I remember
Apr 09 11:56:58 <nuclearkev> Herrie|Laptop: sorry for the late reply, I was asleep :)
Apr 09 11:57:30 <nuclearkev> Herrie|Laptop: I was using http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable/images/tenderloin/luneos-dev-image-tenderloin.tar.gz
Apr 09 11:57:43 <nuclearkev> It was the link in the installation docs
Apr 09 12:00:41 <nuclearkev> I wanted to get a stable release booting before I try one of the others
Apr 09 12:01:10 <Tofe> nuclearkev: did you also update your uImage ? you might need http://build.webos-ports.org/releases/doppio/images/tenderloin/uImage--3.4.106%2Bgitr3%2Bece92940da-r0.27-tenderloin-20181121031809-stable-053-92.bin too
Apr 09 12:01:38 <Tofe> (copy it as uImage.whatever in /boot)
Apr 09 12:02:06 <nuclearkev> Oh, I didn't know about that!
Apr 09 12:02:34 <nuclearkev> Tofe: So, that would become my new uImage.LuneOS ?
Apr 09 12:02:40 <Tofe> usually it's not necessary to update it; but here we switched to using the Halium project, and it has impact on the uImage
Apr 09 12:02:44 <Tofe> yes
Apr 09 12:03:21 <nuclearkev> Interesting, I will try that!
Apr 09 12:05:31 <Tofe> We'll also update it for next release -- I'm working on it :)
Apr 09 12:05:52 <nuclearkev> Oh nice!
Apr 09 12:05:57 <nuclearkev> Thanks for you work, Tofe
Apr 09 12:06:27 <Tofe> :)
Apr 09 12:07:05 <nuclearkev> One day I hope to help as well, however, my schedule doesn't permit that right now
Apr 09 12:08:54 <nuclearkev> Well, I tried it with the new uImage and it still is stuck on the black screen
Apr 09 12:09:02 <nuclearkev> WAIT!
Apr 09 12:09:12 <nuclearkev> I see the LuneOS logo now
Apr 09 12:09:16 <nuclearkev> It booted!
Apr 09 12:09:23 <nuclearkev> Just took a while on the black screen
Apr 09 12:14:49 <nuclearkev> Thanks for your help Tofe! Time to play around a little!
Apr 09 12:35:21 <Tofe> good ! :)
Apr 09 14:04:24 <nuclearkev> Tofe: What is the main focus for luneOS right now? Device support? Usability? UI? Stability?
Apr 09 14:05:58 <Tofe> nuclearkev: right now, infrastructure upgrade and also device support: we're rebasing LuneOS on Yocto warrior (from pyro, it's quite a jump), and we are also beginning looking into a mainline kernel for Nexus 5
Apr 09 14:07:08 <nuclearkev> Pyro as in the Dragonbox device?
Apr 09 14:07:15 <Tofe> TP should be one of the last steps before a warrior-based release; then, we'll be focusing on fonctionnality, stability & co
Apr 09 14:07:50 <nuclearkev> Ah, okay. Makes sense to me!
Apr 09 14:07:52 <Tofe> Pyro, not Pyra :)
Apr 09 14:08:05 <Tofe> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases
Apr 09 14:08:13 <nuclearkev> Ah, oops lol
Apr 09 14:09:06 <nuclearkev> Do you predict the warrior-based release will be ready this year?
Apr 09 14:09:52 <Tofe> Oh, yes, I'd even say this month
Apr 09 14:10:10 <nuclearkev> Oh wow!
Apr 09 14:10:11 <Tofe> Most of the work is already behind us
Apr 09 14:10:25 <nuclearkev> I assume you'll make a stable release with it?
Apr 09 14:10:39 <Tofe> Yes
Apr 09 14:10:49 <nuclearkev> Wow, that's awesome!
Apr 09 14:10:55 <Tofe> :)
Apr 09 14:11:48 <nuclearkev> I might be able to help out in the summer. But the next 2 months are going to be wild for me
Apr 09 14:12:10 <Tofe> No problem, there's always something to do on this kind of project :)
Apr 09 14:12:23 <nuclearkev> Is the UI written with Qt?
Apr 09 14:12:48 <Tofe> For the core components, yes; otherwise it's Enyo web apps
Apr 09 14:13:54 <Tofe> QML apps are also possible
Apr 09 14:13:58 <nuclearkev> Ah okay. I knew Enyo was used but was unsure about the other parts
Apr 09 14:14:39 <nuclearkev> by "core components" do you mean like cards, app menu, etc. ?
Apr 09 14:16:43 <Tofe> I mean the compositor (LunaNext), the phone app, the browser, mainly
Apr 09 14:17:02 <nuclearkev> ahh, okay. I understand.
Apr 09 14:17:34 <nuclearkev> I program in JS (and clojurescript) for my job, so I can probably do things with enyo
Apr 09 14:18:04 <nuclearkev> I don't really know anything about Qt
Apr 09 14:18:18 <Tofe> We wanted to give WebComponents a try, through Polymer, but never really got any time for it
Apr 09 14:19:12 <Tofe> Also LG's webOS is now using Enact, which might be a possibility. But here we didn't investigate yet
Apr 09 14:19:32 <nuclearkev> I seem to always forget about webOS OSE
Apr 09 14:19:35 <nuclearkev> I don't know why
Apr 09 14:19:42 <nuclearkev> What is their goal with it?
Apr 09 14:21:01 <Tofe> They're doing OSE to broaden the use of the OS, and see if it fits new usages
Apr 09 14:22:00 <Tofe> We're in the process of rebasing some of our components on top of OSE, but it'll be a long job
Apr 09 14:22:46 <nuclearkev> Yeah, I'm sure it would be.
Apr 09 14:23:01 <nuclearkev> The life of webOS is very interesting hahah
Apr 09 14:23:18 <nuclearkev> Getting thrown around all over the place
Apr 09 14:24:37 <nuclearkev> When do you predict luneOS will actually be usable as a daily driver (just the basics, phone, messaging, email, calendar)?
Apr 09 14:24:47 <nuclearkev> Obviously not bug free or anything
Apr 09 14:25:49 <Tofe> Ah, that's always been a difficult question :)
Apr 09 14:26:31 <Tofe> Messaging, email, calendar could really use a good liftup
Apr 09 14:27:17 <Tofe> ... and I'm more a ease with low-level stuff, so I have some difficulties knowing how much work that means
Apr 09 14:27:20 <Tofe> at*
Apr 09 14:28:25 <Tofe> I'd say it's something like some months' work. The problem is for people to find time to actually work on it :p
Apr 09 14:29:40 <nuclearkev> Yeah, that is true!
Apr 09 14:33:45 <nuclearkev> Maybe that's something I can do whenever I'll be free to do it
Apr 09 14:33:52 <nuclearkev> Work on the messaging app
Apr 09 14:34:17 <Tofe> That would be nice :)
Apr 09 14:36:12 <nuclearkev> I would first need to learn about Enyo!
Apr 09 14:39:46 <Tofe> Well, we're not really in a hurry either ;) And there are also tons of existing example, one of them being the current messaging app : https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.messaging
Apr 09 14:44:02 <nuclearkev> Sweet, I'll look into it!
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