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Apr 23 06:25:40 <Tofe> Morning!
Apr 23 07:42:17 <Herrie|Laptop> Morning!
Apr 23 07:42:17 <Herrie|Laptop> Finally back a bit :) Wasn't feeling too well last couple of days, so wasn't around a whole lot.
Apr 23 07:42:17 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Nice work on the table!
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Apr 23 07:51:26 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Ah OK.
Apr 23 07:51:56 <Herrie|Laptop> My Tissot is in use by the Mrs now since her phone acted up and is RMA atm. So I have Hammerhead & Tenderloin available for testing at my end
Apr 23 07:52:40 <Tofe> well, tenderloin has sound KO (until we "force" pulseaudio to play something via paplay, it seems)
Apr 23 07:52:59 <Tofe> hammerhead works pretty well, fwiw
Apr 23 07:53:22 <Herrie|Laptop> Original TP with webOS had occasional issues with PA already
Apr 23 07:53:30 <Herrie|Laptop> Sound would be garbled and a PA reset was needed
Apr 23 07:53:39 <Herrie|Laptop> There was even a PulseAudio restarter app
Apr 23 07:53:50 <Herrie|Laptop> That would do just that and close again :P
Apr 23 07:54:07 <Tofe> :)
Apr 23 07:54:19 <Tofe> ok so it might not be a showstopper
Apr 23 07:54:46 <Tofe> still, I'd like qemu image to behave: it often what people see first
Apr 23 08:05:22 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Just that PA in the past on legacy webOS was having issues. Could be related to current ones or not of course
Apr 23 08:05:26 <Herrie|Laptop> PA evolved a lot
Apr 23 08:05:49 <Tofe> and it worked quite well with PA 11, iirc
Apr 23 08:05:56 <Tofe> (on sumo)
Apr 23 08:07:19 <Herrie|Laptop> Must be something small again then :S
Apr 23 08:07:29 <Herrie|Laptop> Fixed one bug, introduced another :P
Apr 23 08:09:43 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Quite some possible tips & solutions at: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
Apr 23 08:10:08 <Herrie|Laptop> Not sure this applies for Tenderloin? "Since PulseAudio 12 virtual devices are ignored by default. If you do not want this behavior because you want to move existing streams to freshly loaded module-echo-cancel for example, you have to add ignore_virtual=no."
Apr 23 08:11:56 <Tofe> I don't know
Apr 23 08:22:27 <novaldex> Morning all, it's been a busy weekend..
Apr 23 08:22:37 <novaldex> I see Jenkins is idle just now, all clear for me to do some upgrades & patching?
Apr 23 08:23:18 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: I'd say go ahead
Apr 23 08:23:30 <novaldex> Thanks!
Apr 23 08:23:42 <novaldex> did I miss anyhting else?
Apr 23 08:23:43 <Herrie|Laptop> Would be good to get those security fixes in
Apr 23 08:23:53 <Herrie|Laptop> I'm still awaiting feedback on issues.webos-ports.org ;)
Apr 23 08:24:06 <novaldex> so am I!
Apr 23 08:24:29 <novaldex> the guys have been in the DC this weekend doing lots of racking & stacking, although I don't think the disks made it in time
Apr 23 08:25:47 <JaMa> morning!
Apr 23 08:26:08 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Yeah it seems they didn't :(
Apr 23 08:26:19 <Herrie|Laptop> Big corporations :S
Apr 23 08:26:24 <novaldex> that's okay, there'll be more options over the summer
Apr 23 08:26:52 <novaldex> our new DC is much closer to ka6sox, not quite on his doorstep, but closer
Apr 23 08:28:55 <Herrie|Laptop> Yeah but would've been nice but well ;)
Apr 23 08:29:54 <novaldex> agreed!
Apr 23 08:52:55 <novaldex> Jenkins is patched & back up
Apr 23 08:58:23 <Herrie|Laptop> novaldex: Thnx
Apr 23 09:05:34 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: You've seen the new OSE release?
Apr 23 09:08:09 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: very quickly, yes
Apr 23 09:08:27 <Herrie|Laptop> Some things might be of interest to us at some point I guess :)
Apr 23 09:08:38 <Tofe> Yes, fore sure :)
Apr 23 09:08:55 <Tofe> I didn't look carefully enough at their new camera media stack
Apr 23 09:09:15 <Tofe> but anyway the whole multimedia stack has to be rebased first, so...
Apr 23 09:09:27 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Yes....
Apr 23 09:09:52 <Herrie|Laptop> But camera bits might be interesting. Also PDM can be useful
Apr 23 09:10:09 <Herrie|Laptop> Chromium 68 is nice too ;)
Apr 23 09:10:27 <Herrie|Laptop> And VKB might be of use, would need to see & test it first
Apr 23 09:14:15 <Tofe> Not sure what it would bring for us, that one
Apr 23 09:25:05 <Herrie|Laptop> Yeah PDM is not very useful on phones & tablets I guess
Apr 23 09:29:18 <Tofe> I was more talking about VKB, but you're right too :)
Apr 23 09:34:52 <Tofe> For vkb, it mainly looks like it's a vkb designed for TVs: one form factor, TTS... maybe also designed to be remote-controlled more than touch-controlled (for instance it has focus management, but no multi-touch)
Apr 23 09:44:26 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Ah OK
Apr 23 09:44:39 <Herrie|Laptop> Yeah I guess they took the one from the TV with the magic remote (wireless mouse kind of thing)
Apr 23 09:49:06 <Tofe> That would make sense. Still, the code itself looks fairly nice. Ours could use some love :)
Apr 23 09:59:33 <Herrie|Laptop> Where you don't need multitouch. I would expect them to have multitouch for signage devices though
Apr 23 09:59:43 <Herrie|Laptop> EricBlade: ^ Any input?
Apr 23 10:00:09 <Herrie|Laptop> Well Qt now also has VKB themselves
Apr 23 10:00:20 <Herrie|Laptop> Might also be an option to replace Maliit in the long run
Apr 23 10:01:58 <Herrie|Laptop> The integration will probably work smoother at some point v.s. Maliit
Apr 23 10:31:51 <Tofe> Maybe... but as long as our vkb works well, it'll not be my priority :)
Apr 23 14:04:07 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: True ;)
Apr 23 14:47:00 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: what's your feeling about the release: we do a warrior release with a not-so-good status, or we merge Qt 5.12, converge it, with a risk a taking quite some time before a release is stabilized ?
Apr 23 14:47:29 <Tofe> I'd try the second option, but if there are differnt opinions, it's always good to take into account
Apr 23 14:48:55 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: We're in no rush to push a release out. I think we can do Warrior + Qt 5.12 merge and then focus on solving the issues?
Apr 23 14:49:05 <Herrie|Laptop> There aren't many dealbreakers it seems
Apr 23 14:49:14 <Herrie|Laptop> The black window issue is there, PA on Tenderloin
Apr 23 14:49:18 <Tofe> Not anymore, indeed
Apr 23 14:49:20 <Herrie|Laptop> And some small webengine things probably
Apr 23 14:49:22 <Herrie|Laptop> ?
Apr 23 14:49:37 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre: Had any clues as to what's happening with Onyx?
Apr 23 14:50:10 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: black window on qemu, PA on tenderloin, all this is the current status
Apr 23 14:50:50 <Herrie|Laptop> Well qemu can be many things
Apr 23 14:52:05 <Tofe> but anyway, let's move on and merge Qt 5.12; it'll be simpler for everyone (including a certain Ja...a ;) )
Apr 23 14:57:55 <Herrie|Laptop> Yup ;)
Apr 23 16:52:06 <Tofe> and in that case, I'll also commit a thing or two from the hammerhead-mainline branch
Apr 23 17:06:20 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: if you want to try the build yourself, you can take "Tofee/warrior" for meta-smartphone and meta-webos-ports, and just warrior for meta-qt5
Apr 23 17:06:36 <Tofe> I didn't run a full build yet, tissot is in progress
Apr 23 17:10:11 <Tofe> I included the split I did for initramfs for hammerhead's mainline kernel
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