**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 23 02:59:58 2019 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 23 12:06:06 2019 Oct 23 14:02:49 OSE builds available on milla if anyone wants to try Oct 23 15:19:01 JaMa: I thought these would be VirtualBox compatible going forward? But seems the .ovf is missing from archive? Oct 23 15:35:06 what archive? Oct 23 15:35:19 OSE builds never provided ovf Oct 23 15:39:22 I thought that LG switched from Qemu to VBox or was I mistaken? Oct 23 15:44:41 they tried to make it compatible with both, but still never provided ovf and don't currently plan to provide ovf AFAIK Oct 23 15:45:15 https://www.webosose.org/docs/tools/sdk/emulator/emulator-user-guide/ Oct 23 15:45:46 JaMa: OK, weird not to provide OVF but well Oct 23 15:45:51 Yeah I just found the guide Oct 23 15:47:47 yeah, instead of OVF they provide bunch of screeshots and vboxmanage calls, I've already suggested OVF internally a while ago Oct 23 15:49:14 no update in that jira ticket since may.. Oct 23 15:49:37 Ok :S Oct 23 15:49:52 Because OVF would be a lot quicker ;) Oct 23 15:50:02 Well at least it boots ;) Oct 23 15:53:34 yeah, just when some distros are starting to enable virglrenderer in qemu it's deprecated now :) Oct 23 15:55:11 Herrie: are you going to push your 300 lines changelog? Oct 23 15:55:21 jenkins is idle :) Oct 23 15:55:39 JaMa: Yeah will try in the train, leaving office in 5 mins Oct 23 15:55:45 ok, thanks Oct 23 15:56:00 Tofe: FYI Sandbox test in Testr works in webOS OSE browser ;) Oct 23 15:56:24 But HTML5 location not ;) Oct 23 15:58:24 JaMa: You ahve any ideas which keys are mapped in the emulator? Cannot seem to close/minimize the browser ;) Oct 23 15:59:52 FWIW: https://github.com/webosose-emulator/build-webos/blob/master/dist/ose-virtualbox-github.ovf Oct 23 16:00:55 is there the new launcher already? if yes than I think the keys don't work well or at all, e.g. the launcher itself needs to be swiped up instead of win key Oct 23 16:12:10 it might be because I'm building thunderbird at the same time, but OSE emulator is really slow in vbox (still waiting for launcher to appear) Oct 23 16:20:06 There's no boot animation, that doesn't help much either Oct 23 16:20:36 Seems train is shorter and therefore more full Vs usual, so I guess changelog will be later tonight Oct 23 16:24:42 no problem, http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/job/LuneOS/job/luneos-stable_feeds-new-staging/ won't keep the builder busy for very long anyway :) Oct 23 16:25:29 Tofe: have you tried 5.12.5 with testing build already somewhere? should we include it in next stable feed? Oct 23 16:26:00 JaMa: ah, no, I didn't update the meta-qt5 at all Oct 23 16:26:48 and currently I'm either on pinephone or on mainline hammerhead, not sure which one is the least non-pertinent :) Oct 23 16:27:24 I plan to upgrade meta-qt5/zeus to 5.13.2 once it's released hopefully later this week, then I'll refresh the qt changes for 5.13 from zeus branch and try them on warrior (or remove them from zeus branch and do the yocto upgrade first) Oct 23 16:27:38 didn't you have Oct 23 16:27:42 some patch issues? Oct 23 16:27:57 yes in webengine again Oct 23 16:28:13 ok Oct 23 16:29:37 https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/e7964884c7344f50b909b13d0c85e51fa829d1ff Oct 23 16:30:28 ah, that one, ok Oct 23 16:30:41 maybe there's now a cleaner way to achieve the pixel ratio goal Oct 23 16:31:14 or rather this one: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/776355095dc1267978003c629de8f3b11578437d Oct 23 16:41:04 I saw LG also has devicepiz Oct 23 16:41:17 Pixelratio in their webappmgr Oct 23 16:41:43 And their Chromium mods, we might be able to get inspiration there Oct 23 16:43:45 JaMa: ah, it's also removed upstream... mmmHh Oct 23 16:44:02 Just ran across it yesterday when I saw some appinfo.json parsing Oct 23 16:44:11 But could be they forgot to remove it Oct 23 16:44:36 iirc, we mainly need it for legacy support Oct 23 16:45:01 All the apps that suppose we're based on DPI=132 Oct 23 16:45:38 https://github.com/webosose/chromium72/blob/ed2a6d143dfd2fc5af50e0c2720c80e9717f465c/src/neva/injection/resources/webossystem_injection.js Oct 23 16:45:57 That might be a first place Oct 23 17:48:26 Herrie: even with thunderbird build finished the OSE image in vbox is quite terrible Oct 23 17:48:40 did it work reasonably well for you? Oct 23 17:50:54 e.g. the launcher is just black box without the icons for me, then it shows just another black box when starting something and sampler doesn't render well too, with vbox 6.0.14 Oct 23 17:53:11 and our OVF will need small update as well for 3DCrDeprecated warning: This VM is configured to use 3D acceleration using the VBoxVGA graphics controller. Support for this will be removed with version 6.1.0. ALL saved states and snapshots will cease to work when using this configuration. Either switch to the VMSVGA graphics controller and update guest additions, or disable 3D acceleration. Oct 23 17:57:34 JaMa: I just started browser and browsed http://html5test.com and http://webos-ports.github.io/org.webports.app.testr/debug.html Oct 23 17:57:52 Now I don't know how to close browser and return to launcher Oct 23 17:58:11 Launcher reminded me a lot more on my TV launcher ;) Oct 23 17:59:09 so the browser icon was shown correctly in the launcher? Oct 23 17:59:28 I see only black box and can click blindly on the icons hiding there Oct 23 18:04:29 Yes I had some showing Oct 23 18:04:41 Several in a row Oct 23 18:07:29 that's correct, not sure why it doesn't work for me on identical image Oct 23 18:07:36 OVF fix merged to warrior Oct 23 18:08:24 https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/fda689c46c386f1650e4b1dd7d830bb40fa535f0 Oct 23 18:14:16 Might be my VBox version? Oct 23 18:14:30 I'm on Win 10 with 6.1 but not latest I think Oct 23 18:14:40 Putting children to bed now can check in a bit Oct 23 18:15:41 Or 6.0 but not .14, got prompted today to download update Oct 23 18:15:47 But didn't install it yet Oct 23 18:16:23 October 15th, 2019 Oct 23 18:16:24 VirtualBox 6.0.14 released! Oct 23 18:16:30 6.1 wasnt released yet Oct 23 18:16:54 Ok I'm on some 6.0 before .14 then Oct 23 18:17:07 Need to check which one, could be couple of weeks old Oct 23 18:17:23 but still would be surprising if it breaks the UI in this fasion Oct 23 18:18:29 FWIW: I've used the vboxmanage commands from the documentation to create that VM for OSE Oct 23 18:32:02 JaMa: I used the GUI steps Oct 23 18:32:21 With memory, CPU, graphics, NAT etc Oct 23 18:36:55 Herrie: both are using VMSVGA with 3D accel enabled so it should be the same as well Oct 23 18:37:31 maybe the windows/linux difference might be the cause, but strange Oct 23 18:38:09 OSE doesn't work with 3D accel disabled, so not easy to verify this Oct 23 19:28:36 JaMa: FWIW I'm on 6.0.12 on Win10x64 Oct 23 19:30:38 let's try that on a archlinux machine :) Oct 23 19:30:41 JaMa: Screenshot of my launcher: https://ibb.co/54wVSt6 Oct 23 19:32:02 Seems there's no key to close anything Oct 23 19:32:05 Very useful LOL Oct 23 19:32:10 Start an app and stuck LOL Oct 23 19:32:31 it's a one-way experience Oct 23 19:32:58 Yeah there's no mouse pointer etc to do anything with either Oct 23 19:33:36 though they seemed to put quite some effort in the inputs handling Oct 23 19:33:59 maliit fork, several middlewares... Oct 23 19:34:23 and then, oops, we forgot to map the Escape key Oct 23 19:36:38 Yup ;) Should be an easy fix but well Oct 23 19:37:08 it's QML, go ahead ;) Oct 23 19:39:32 speaking of which https://github.com/webosose/luna-surfacemanager/blob/master/base/qml/WebOSCompositorBase/controllers/KeyController.qml#L43 have you tried your left Windows key ? Oct 23 19:40:09 Tofe: well I have only 1 on my laptop I think Oct 23 19:40:14 I tried all keys afaik Oct 23 19:40:27 I opened the webOSOSE icon Oct 23 19:41:03 Let me try again in a minute, running around the house doing a few things now Oct 23 19:53:25 Herrie: your screenshot is significantly better than mine :) https://ibb.co/VmkL93F Oct 23 19:53:52 if you envy my X button, then don't be, it doesn't close anything as well :) Oct 23 19:55:00 one more with this new fancy browser :) https://ibb.co/YkPsBMf Oct 23 19:57:00 on my side I just get a black screen :( Oct 23 19:57:12 like me or differently black? :) Oct 23 19:57:16 JaMa: Let me retry with latest VBox Oct 23 19:57:41 blacky black Oct 23 19:58:23 trying 6.0.14 from Ubuntu 19.10 Oct 23 19:58:36 I'm on 6.0.12 Oct 23 19:58:48 with ubuntu version it looks correct Oct 23 20:00:04 but cannot swipe the launcher there (maybe because of synergy) Oct 23 20:01:11 killing synergy doesn't help Oct 23 20:02:13 Bare app and left Win key also doesn't work Oct 23 20:03:16 6.0.14 is the same as 6.0.12 on Windows BTW ;) Oct 23 20:03:23 In terms of what it shows or doesn't show Oct 23 20:04:12 lets say that LGE didn't set the bar very high for emulator, luneos-unstable works much better than this :) Oct 23 20:04:34 Yes, I'm all frustrated not to see anything Oct 23 20:05:05 LGE now cares only about rpi4, so emulator and rpi3 aren't being tested Oct 23 20:06:20 I don't see any contributor wanabee buying a rpi4 just to try OSE Oct 23 20:07:26 agreed, especially after 3B+ owners got ignored since the launch of OSE Oct 23 20:08:17 now I've built even more unofficial images on our jenkins which support 3B+, because it was again rejected to be merged for this release Oct 23 20:08:53 OSE "rebel edition" Oct 23 20:09:17 I've created new pull request with that, to make it public, but I think it will be ignored by LGE in public just like it is in internal gerrit Oct 23 20:10:01 I'm OK with them deciding to support only a minimal set of hardware, but then the qemu image should be perfect Oct 23 20:10:56 And I won't accept them saying "we're a small team" :) Oct 23 20:11:24 I agree about the minimal set, but the difference between 3B+ and 3B is really small and asking anyone to buy even older 3B just to test OSE doesn't make sense as well Oct 23 20:11:48 ah, yes, that's true Oct 23 20:13:06 and using long deprecated 4.4 kernel on rpi just because media team didn't find the time (in last 2 years) to figure out why the hw media pipeline stopped working since 4.8 kernel also doesn't help Oct 23 20:14:36 * JaMa off to watch some tv show to calm down :) Oct 23 20:16:51 :) Oct 23 20:24:38 Yeah big corporates sometimes (or often ;)) Oct 23 20:24:45 I'm also off soon ;) Gn8 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 24 01:31:54 2019 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 24 02:59:57 2019