Dec 23 15:38:34 minus "0" - typo Dec 23 15:38:40 right and what's the next div inside that? Dec 23 15:39:19 the hintText stuff Dec 23 15:39:47 ok, and after the hinttext stuff? Dec 23 15:40:14 Oh shit: with your method, the hintText, might be able to be replaced dynamically! Dec 23 15:40:55 yes. you take your div id, and then find the child nodes, and modify the text of the hinttext element. :-) Dec 23 15:41:09 id="palm_anon_element_0mojo-scene-firstsendField-read" Dec 23 15:41:21 that's why inspector is so cool Dec 23 15:41:35 LoneStar34 that's the ID, what's the class???? Dec 23 15:42:37 class="truncating-text" Dec 23 15:43:04 Bingo. Dec 23 15:44:06 there's a "read" and a "write" div in the textField Dec 23 15:44:15 yep. Dec 23 15:44:39 haeffb I've been through this, I just want LoneStar34 to find this stuff so that he gets what's going on..... Dec 23 15:44:53 I haven't, so I'm following along. Dec 23 15:45:22 except my inspector just crashed, so I have to restart the emu Dec 23 15:45:38 Now, LoneStar34 here's your decision. You can modify the truncating-text style to have a background, if you do that, you will be modifying ALL textfields. Dec 23 15:46:18 Rick_work: i only have one textfield in my app... Dec 23 15:46:25 Or..... you can ad a class to sendField "class=mybackgroundclass" and you can put a background in it.. Dec 23 15:47:00 LoneStar34 ok then. in your div where you set up the x-mojo--element="TextField" add class="lonestarback" Dec 23 15:47:04 or something like that. Dec 23 15:47:27 then, in the apps stylesheet css file which is in the stylesheet folder in your app folder) Dec 23 15:47:28 add Dec 23 15:47:44 i got my practical palm pre apps book delivered yesterday Dec 23 15:47:45 :) Dec 23 15:47:51 er...truncating-text is used in more than just textfields, isn't it? Dec 23 15:47:59 haeff yes it is. Dec 23 15:48:12 LoneStar34 add a class Dec 23 15:48:57 lonestarback{background-image:url('../images/myimage.png') Dec 23 15:49:32 ok working on it... Dec 23 15:49:54 was this useful sir? (Or madam as the case may be) Dec 23 15:50:25 ((( On the internet no one can tell if you're not human, as long as you're sentient. And even that can be marginal sometimes. ))) Dec 23 15:50:52 * haeffb is mosty human. Will be completely human when I get my coffee. Dec 23 15:51:00 yetdog: you like? Dec 23 15:51:04 * Rick_work needs more coffee. Dec 23 15:51:16 i just flipped thru it a bit last night but seems very thorough Dec 23 15:51:33 explaination of mojo, and lots of sample apps Dec 23 15:51:38 the classic invokation of that is "on the interenet no one can tell if you're a dog." except for yetdog who admits it up front... Dec 23 15:51:40 Rick_work: why did we have to go thru the inspector just to add a class to the textfield div Dec 23 15:51:41 i like learning by example so its perfect for me, will be a nice reference point Dec 23 15:51:52 haeffb we didn't Dec 23 15:52:02 ok. just an exercise in inspector Dec 23 15:52:17 Rick_work: very useful - will write something about it on the forum and webos101.com Dec 23 15:52:22 haeffb we went through the inspector because LoneStar34 had never run it, and didn't know how to drill down to an element and see how it was built and styled. Dec 23 15:52:27 Rick_work: I am not human Dec 23 15:52:44 * haeffb says thanks. I needed that. Dec 23 15:53:37 and I thought that LoneStar34 was the one wanting to change hinttext dynamically yesterday, and this is how you find out stuff like that. Dec 23 15:53:43 so, if LoneStar34 wants to modify hint text, can he get the div of the textfield, then something like thisDiv.child[0].innerHTML = "MY STUFF"? Dec 23 15:53:55 Yep. Dec 23 15:54:02 awesome Dec 23 15:54:13 and you can analyse ANY widget that way.... Dec 23 15:54:25 buttons radio buttons, sliders whatever. Dec 23 15:54:29 too bad he's not human, or he'd be dancing up and down right now. Dec 23 15:54:51 want to change the image that forms the button on the slider from the fading circle to a basketball? Look it up. Dec 23 15:54:55 etc etc etc.... Dec 23 15:55:07 EVERYTHING is just css and HTML Dec 23 15:55:13 inspector is the bomb Dec 23 15:55:16 i have trouble with inspector and multistage apps. doesnt work? Dec 23 15:55:30 learning WebOS and taking back the secrets to my planet Dec 23 15:55:39 bmyers, it's a problem yep Dec 23 15:55:55 next time you see lemketron on here ask him about that. Dec 23 15:56:04 workaround? Dec 23 15:56:17 create the scene in a single-stage app. Dec 23 15:56:17 launch the second stage directly? Dec 23 15:56:37 i'll see if that work Dec 23 15:56:43 maybe it doesnt know where to start Dec 23 15:56:53 I have no idea if there is a way to create a new stage programatically in inspectable mode. Dec 23 15:57:01 but there MIGHT be. Dec 23 15:57:12 that would be a good question to ask in the palm forums. Dec 23 15:57:13 do the -i launch with params? Dec 23 15:57:31 Bmyers I've read that batch file, I don't think so. Dec 23 15:57:53 hmm.. Dec 23 15:58:33 Rick_work: ok it is working, need to tweak some more to get it right Dec 23 15:58:51 Rick_work: you deserve some pints! Dec 23 15:59:43 Rick_work deserves a paycheck from Palm. he's helped everybody in here at some point. Dec 23 16:00:06 Friend of Bill, and a diabetic, so they're going to have to be liters of diet coke I'm afraid. Dec 23 16:00:10 haeffb_gon4coffe: Yeah you are right! Dec 23 16:00:16 haeffb_gon4coffe thanks Dec 23 16:00:40 what is "Friend of Bill"? Dec 23 16:04:22 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Friend%20of%20Bill%20W. Dec 23 16:09:50 In hotels that don't want to advertise an AA meeting on their lobby sign card, you will sometimes see "Bill W." as the event name... Dec 23 16:11:17 ok - got you, my wifi was flacking out, - yeah just read it, Dec 23 16:11:55 You know the difference between a drunk and an alcoholic? Dec 23 16:12:24 me, i love to get wasted! Dec 23 16:12:27 lol Dec 23 16:12:31 not sure... Dec 23 16:12:37 drunks don't have to go to all those damned meetings. Dec 23 16:12:49 lol Dec 23 16:13:21 ok, who's up for reviewing something for me? I have a hunk of text I need a first-reader for. Dec 23 16:13:35 ok send me the link Dec 23 16:16:15 see pm Dec 23 16:22:44 i'll review as well, when I get back from coffee Dec 23 16:22:59 haeffb_gon4coffe ping me Dec 23 16:34:59 adora! arent you supposed to be flying? Dec 23 16:35:01 (twitter) :p Dec 23 16:35:18 she was twittering from the San Jose airport. Dec 23 16:35:25 presumably on her pre. Dec 23 16:35:32 naturally... Dec 23 16:35:36 yeah, I'm at the airport Dec 23 16:35:46 and the ONLY REASON I pulled my laptop out Dec 23 16:35:57 is because no facebook client would let me add a caption to a photo I uploaded Dec 23 16:35:57 i was supposed to fly into SJ a couple weeks ago but it was booked so i had to go into SFO Dec 23 16:36:27 i find the pre facebook apps are still lacking. thus, my facebook has suffered. however, i dont care much :) Dec 23 16:37:30 Rick_work: I was actually tweeting from the foursquare app Dec 23 16:37:37 although I think I'm two builds behind Dec 23 16:37:40 Adora, sorry. I just don't have TIME to write a facebook app. Dec 23 16:39:29 hmm i think its time i check out this foursquare thing Dec 23 16:39:39 boarding now, bye guys! Dec 23 16:54:57 Mornin Chuqui Dec 23 16:55:28 happy getting really close to christmas, all Dec 23 16:56:37 Rick_work: ping Dec 23 16:56:56 happy holidays, chuqui Dec 23 16:57:01 yeah! Dec 23 16:57:11 Hi Chuqi !!! Dec 23 16:57:24 Howdy Chuqui! Dec 23 17:10:29 *grumble* I have that problem with my pre where the power button doesn't provide tactile feedback anymore and I have to press it kind of hard. Any ideas other than "a really tiny shim" or "take it back to the Sprint Store"? Dec 23 17:16:41 laughs at dsevil as my pres screen is no longer connected to the keyboard Dec 23 17:16:49 * CTLAdvance laughs at dsevil as my pres screen is no longer connected to the keyboard Dec 23 17:17:26 dsevil do you have device insurance Dec 23 17:18:15 yeah Dec 23 17:19:09 i'd rather avoid the hassles associated with device replacement (i.e. reinstalling stuff and finding out that the palm pre profile doesn't backup *everything* i'd like.) Dec 23 17:19:46 if it's as simple as just replacing the little plastic power button i'd be all set Dec 23 17:21:33 anyone have any experience with multiline text fields? Dec 23 17:21:43 specifically, does it store newline chars as \n? Dec 23 17:24:01 trying to maintain newlines when i send field through a query string to my server Dec 23 17:24:05 yetdog: yes Dec 23 17:24:33 i did some outside-the-sdk (OMG HAX0R) work with a text field and can confirm that there are no \r characters. Dec 23 17:24:37 to the second question Dec 23 17:24:39 on the first day of christmas my true love gave to me... beer... Dec 23 17:24:55 4 lbs of back-bacon Dec 23 17:24:55 yeah dsevil - when i take the value of the field and pass it, the newline is basically ignored Dec 23 17:25:04 three french toasts Dec 23 17:25:06 so if i have sometihng like this: Dec 23 17:25:08 test message Dec 23 17:25:10 new line Dec 23 17:25:22 the query string will have test%20messagenew%20line Dec 23 17:25:24 :( Dec 23 17:25:37 test message /n new line Dec 23 17:25:50 \n Dec 23 17:25:54 how are you passing it? Dec 23 17:26:03 basically just grabbing this.model.value Dec 23 17:26:11 passing it via JSON call Dec 23 17:26:32 this.model.value will have the "\n" character in it. Dec 23 17:27:23 hmmm, doesnt show up in my apache logs -= wlil it show in the URL string? Dec 23 17:29:23 you might just have to encodeURIComponent() it yourself. Dec 23 17:29:31 and then build the URL yourself. Dec 23 17:29:57 What's the exact code? Dec 23 17:31:06 as for showing up in the URL string... what's in apache logs *is* the URL string. Dec 23 17:31:20 a \n should show up as %0A or %0a Dec 23 17:32:27 yeah, apache isnt showing anything newline-related Dec 23 17:32:33 hang on, trying to get mojo log info stuff Dec 23 17:33:36 #################################STRING VALUE: Testing newline NEWLINE HERE Dec 23 17:33:42 ok so the variable actually has the spacing Dec 23 17:33:51 so i need to encode that before shipping it to the URL Dec 23 17:34:07 well, i *think* it has the newline... Dec 23 17:34:15 i guess that log entry doesnt really prove anything Dec 23 17:34:25 what does Mojo.Log.info("%j", this.model.value); show? Dec 23 17:35:02 exactly what i just pasted ya Dec 23 17:35:09 the ##STRING VALUE: thing Dec 23 17:35:50 here we go Dec 23 17:35:54 ENCODE VALUE: Testing%20the%20new%20line%0AHERE Dec 23 17:36:04 i did what you suggested - encodeURLComponent Dec 23 17:36:07 URI* Dec 23 17:36:33 Rick_work: ping Dec 23 17:36:48 yetdog: I still want to see the code Dec 23 17:36:53 k Dec 23 17:37:35 http://webos.pastebin.com/m3f226dda Dec 23 17:38:19 ah, so you're manually building the URL already. Dec 23 17:38:44 now i am Dec 23 17:38:46 i wasnt before Dec 23 17:38:47 your help Dec 23 17:38:59 i want to see waht you were doing before. Dec 23 17:39:41 take out the encodeURIComponent Dec 23 17:39:45 i was jus tmissing that Dec 23 17:40:08 < dsevil> ah, so you're manually building the URL already. Dec 23 17:40:10 < yetdog> now i am Dec 23 17:40:13 < yetdog> i wasnt before Dec 23 17:40:23 I take this to mean you were not previously building the URL. Dec 23 17:41:35 yetdog: use the Mojo.Log.info("Model value is %j", this.textModel.value); Dec 23 17:42:05 the log call with the string is stripping newlines. the %j does not. Dec 23 17:42:34 correct Dec 23 17:42:38 ahhh ok sweet Dec 23 17:43:09 so you can see that they are indeed in there Dec 23 17:45:28 yetdog: by "manually building a URL" i am referring to the statement in line 8 of your pastebin where you assign to the addRevURL variable a URL built by concatenating a bunch of things. Dec 23 17:45:46 If you were doing something different than this, that's what I'm curious about. Dec 23 17:50:38 haeffb sorry I was on the phone Dec 23 17:59:32 ah i gotcha dsevil - thank you very much for your help Dec 23 17:59:38 things are going very well for v2 of my app :) Dec 23 17:59:43 much in thanks to the help here Dec 23 18:00:57 i on the other hand am stuck in my v2 stuff... Dec 23 18:01:14 i can't seem to load my persisted json into a dynamic list Dec 23 18:01:17 which... sucks Dec 23 18:01:18 :P Dec 23 18:01:28 yetdog: no problem. you should encodeURIComponent() anything you're passing as a query string value, generally. Dec 23 18:01:51 pandora, what are you trying to do? Dec 23 18:03:10 rick_home: i have a view that takes an array as it's datasource, and this array is populated from a webservice. and you can basically save it for offline viewing, so i'm persisting and retrieving the list (to/from json) and feeding it back to that view Dec 23 18:03:33 as far as i can tell the array i feed it from the live webservice is identical to the one that i've loaded out of storage Dec 23 18:03:47 but it doesn't actually render the stored json. just blank Dec 23 18:03:51 who knows Dec 23 18:03:56 modelchanged? Dec 23 18:04:04 I have a suggestion. Dec 23 18:04:07 sure Dec 23 18:04:38 yetdog: i thought about that, but i don't think it applies, since i'm not changing the model, i'm supplying it up front, on initial load of the view Dec 23 18:04:54 Create two div's at the bottom of your scene. id one as "webdiv" and the other as "storediv" and take the json data from the web and shove it into the innerhtml of the one, and the stored json into the inner html of the other Dec 23 18:05:02 are you tailing /var/log/messages? Dec 23 18:05:20 then, Use the inspector to get to those and pull them out into an editor where you can side-by-side compare them. Dec 23 18:05:22 yetdog: yeah and everything is coming out as expected, except for the blank screen Dec 23 18:05:32 rick_home: thats a good idea Dec 23 18:05:36 ah ok..sometimes if it doesnt like an object it'll yell in messages Dec 23 18:05:39 rick_home: i haven't used the inspector yet Dec 23 18:05:49 this is inspetor day in IRC. Dec 23 18:05:53 hah Dec 23 18:05:54 lol rick_work Dec 23 18:06:00 time to try it out i guess Dec 23 18:06:07 you are the third today for first-time-inspector Dec 23 18:06:31 haeffb or yetdog or lonestar54 can help you with that now. Dec 23 18:06:41 palm-inspector Dec 23 18:06:41 palm-inspector: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.38: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Dec 23 18:06:42 lol Dec 23 18:06:52 well damn that's an abrupt end to my inspector-ing Dec 23 18:07:12 apt-get to the rescue...i hope Dec 23 18:07:15 *cue sound or car slamming on breaks Dec 23 18:07:16 anyways, thanks for the idea Dec 23 18:07:22 yetdog: ya huh? haha Dec 23 18:07:31 :) good luck! Dec 23 18:11:14 oh, palm-inspector is statically linked to an older version than i have of that Dec 23 18:11:17 that's the prob Dec 23 18:11:21 well.. lame Dec 23 18:11:58 if it was statically linked you wouldn't have that problem Dec 23 18:12:19 er, ya dynamically linked i meant Dec 23 18:12:48 sorry, my comment was kinda smart @ss :-\ Dec 23 18:13:15 you're upholding the stereotype in your nick Dec 23 18:13:18 it's your duty! Dec 23 18:13:20 :P Dec 23 18:13:36 yeah, that's what I was doing. :-) Dec 23 18:13:55 we linux folk do have a reputation to worry about Dec 23 18:14:17 lol Dec 23 18:15:58 I see on my F11 install I have libicui18n.so.40.1 and on F12 libicui18n.so.42 Dec 23 18:16:22 so .38 is a bit old. what distro / version are you running? Dec 23 18:17:12 to get scenecontroller in AppAssistant....? Dec 23 18:19:31 myController = this.controller.getActiveStageController().activeScene() Dec 23 18:30:09 how are new rows encoded in a CSV file? Dec 23 18:31:22 Who's Jordan again? Dec 23 18:31:46 \n \r ? Dec 23 18:32:26 hallo folks, my me wifi has been acting up.... Dec 23 18:32:46 haeffb: Probably \n Dec 23 18:32:51 New line carriage return Dec 23 18:34:30 linuxjacques: latest ubuntu. i have .40 as well, but palm-inspector is looking for .38 Dec 23 18:37:00 reality9110 Hi Doc!!! Dec 23 18:37:14 this not working: http://www.pastie.org/754708 Dec 23 18:37:15 reality9110: you use the radiotime API right? Dec 23 18:37:27 also just \n not work Dec 23 18:37:28 Rick_work: Hey rick Dec 23 18:37:37 LoneStar34: Yes, I do Dec 23 18:37:40 I get the data, but all in one row Dec 23 18:37:56 Rick_work: You get the email? Dec 23 18:38:01 haeffb /r/n Dec 23 18:39:08 \ or / ? Dec 23 18:40:00 reality9110: thinking of using some of the API, does it link to content that can be played in WebOS? Dec 23 18:40:34 haeffb \r\n Dec 23 18:40:55 Rick_work: any reason the inspector does not display anything anymore? do I need to reload it? Dec 23 18:41:21 LoneStar34 you'll have to re-start the emulator Dec 23 18:41:25 see pastie. I'm using 'text' in an email service request to export the data. but the \r\n not workie. Dec 23 18:41:27 LoneStar34: You won't be able to. I've got the exclusive distribution rights for RadioTime services on the Pre. Dec 23 18:42:08 reality9110: even just to search the and display links? Dec 23 18:42:30 LoneStar34: The entire shebang Dec 23 18:42:38 so whats the topic of discussion today? Dec 23 18:42:49 reality: Boo... Dec 23 18:43:25 we're talking about why I can't figure out how to create a simple CSV string to send in an email. Dec 23 18:43:37 LoneStar34: The links won't work for the Pre anyway. So if you just used their API, you'd get a link that's not playable on the Pre. They are reformatted specifically for the RadioTime app. Dec 23 18:43:39 well, at least, that's what I'm talking about. Dec 23 18:43:59 http://www.pastie.org/754708 Dec 23 18:44:09 reality9110: ok, you answered my question Dec 23 18:44:45 reality9110: does your app play the content? "do not have a device yet..." Dec 23 18:45:02 haeffb that functions looks solid, whats the issue? Dec 23 18:45:13 Rick_work: restarting emulator thanks Dec 23 18:45:27 LoneStar34: It plays all possible stations that the Pre supports Dec 23 18:46:16 not getting new rows to show up in the email body. Or when copy/paste into notepad or open in Excel. Dec 23 18:46:23 it's all one row. Dec 23 18:46:53 reality9110: oh ok cool, you know of other services similar to radiotime? Dec 23 18:47:30 None that I know of that aren't already powered by RadioTime. Dec 23 18:47:36 Except shoutcast Dec 23 18:47:56 yeah looked into shoutcast, Dec 23 18:48:00 the old palm music players have that support Dec 23 18:48:02 But, there are already two shoutcast clients in the App Catalog and RadioTime plays all ShoutCAST streams anyway Dec 23 18:48:45 i really do not want to play the music, just want to link to it... Dec 23 18:49:10 You might want to go by individual song then Dec 23 18:49:21 In which case, I'd recommend doing something with the Last.FM API Dec 23 18:49:34 That way, you get some decent album art as well Dec 23 18:50:03 another api to work with is the spotify api, for album art, artist info Dec 23 18:50:12 Licensing will be an issue, however. You probably wouldn't be able to finance a license for it Dec 23 18:53:40 looks like the email service request strips out \r and \n. Dec 23 18:54:00 most email providers Dec 23 18:54:04 (never done js) Dec 23 18:54:21 require you to specify the html content and the email type (html,text) Dec 23 18:54:34 no, I mean the palm API Dec 23 18:54:40 and sometimes specify headers in order to support html Dec 23 18:54:51 are you encoding them? Dec 23 18:55:04 no Dec 23 18:55:19 try double slashing the rn Dec 23 18:56:15 palm api might just not support html emails Dec 23 18:57:40 it supports HTML emails, we send html tables from our app Dec 23 18:57:55 the thing is, it doesn't suppport PLAIN TEXT emails very well. Dec 23 18:58:14 the way to do an enter in a palm email is
or a set of P tags Dec 23 18:58:24 no way to send a return. Dec 23 18:58:27 or linefeed. Dec 23 18:58:37 I didn't notice haeffb was trying to email a csv Dec 23 18:59:01 Rick_work: restart worked! Dec 23 18:59:23 ah. Dec 23 19:00:51 beautiful. Dec 23 19:01:09 text += '
' Dec 23 19:03:50 my robot just ran out of juice. guess I'm done vacuuming. Dec 23 19:04:22 I just got a Dyson vacuum Dec 23 19:04:23 my carpet was too thick for my roomba :( and then the battery stopped holding charge :( Dec 23 19:06:22 * haeffb has central vac, two roombas, and two hoover uprights. And still only vacuums once a month. Dec 23 19:06:47 I've got a maid Dec 23 19:08:56 I've got a wife. Maid would probably be better for housework. Dec 23 19:09:13 I've got dust everywhere. Dec 23 19:12:51 diff between string.slice() and string.substring() ? Dec 23 19:13:31 er. substr() Dec 23 19:32:24 how hard would it be to get textField to auto-suggest from a list of entries. i.e. as you start typing, it matches what you've typed with strings in a list and provides suggestions. Dec 23 19:32:38 like google search field, or whatever. Dec 23 19:39:26 QQ does anyone see any new apps from today in the catalog? Dec 23 19:43:28 Hey Dec 23 19:43:34 Anybody want to help me test something? Dec 23 19:48:17 CTLAdvance: newest apps are from Monday Dec 23 19:48:22 kesne: what you testing? Dec 23 19:49:00 CTLAdvance: i also see no new apps. Dec 23 19:51:57 haeffb: I need to make sure Yo Dawg! is ready for review. Dec 23 19:52:00 haeffb there are auto-suggest libraries out there. Dec 23 19:55:45 yo gang Dec 23 19:55:52 anyone have command menus at the bottom of their app? Dec 23 19:56:36 yes Dec 23 19:56:46 getting it centered...is yours? Dec 23 19:56:50 i have a few icons grouped Dec 23 19:56:55 but the whole tihng is sitting to the left Dec 23 19:57:01 Thanks haeffb Dec 23 19:57:09 looking in the model properties doc Dec 23 19:57:09 thanks dsevil Dec 23 19:57:48 you need to group your items group inside another items group with empty items on either side. Dec 23 19:57:56 just a sec, think I have code for that. Dec 23 19:57:59 hmm k Dec 23 20:00:15 http://www.pastie.org/754864 Dec 23 20:00:28 just put your items group where I have the middle item. Dec 23 20:01:09 thanks :) Dec 23 20:03:07 was someone working on a wordpress posting app for webOS? Dec 23 20:12:03 That's me Dec 23 20:12:46 I now have the physical keyboard available in landscape mode Dec 23 20:12:49 this is sweet Dec 23 20:13:33 CTLAdvance: he say what? Dec 23 20:13:41 my device Dec 23 20:13:58 his keyboard fell off. Dec 23 20:14:06 HA! Dec 23 20:14:07 fell off? Dec 23 20:14:11 I was gonna say pre 2 Dec 23 20:14:30 hah Dec 23 20:14:32 you wish Dec 23 20:14:35 Yeah, it fell 10 feet onto ice and it split into two separate pieces Dec 23 20:14:54 so now its just flat connectors and a spring holding it together Dec 23 20:14:56 Rick_work: The app catalog already has a WP app though Dec 23 20:15:05 whats cool is that the accelerometer is in the screen portion Dec 23 20:15:12 so I can use it with the screen sideways Dec 23 20:15:15 CTLAdvance: So it works fine though? Dec 23 20:15:30 yeah, seems to Dec 23 20:15:42 clumsy though? Dec 23 20:15:53 I have a replacement coming, but its funny now Dec 23 20:15:59 yeah very clumsy Dec 23 20:16:03 Figured Dec 23 20:16:10 Seems like it would be awkward to use Dec 23 20:16:11 i wish i were handy with hardware Dec 23 20:16:15 I have an extr 1/8 inch of space now between the two pieces Dec 23 20:16:24 i'd make a hack so you could do that intentionally Dec 23 20:16:28 I thought about modding it as its totally doable Dec 23 20:16:36 kesne what's the app cat wordpress app called? Dec 23 20:16:37 yeah exactly Dec 23 20:16:55 Rick_work: Post'er or something like that Dec 23 20:17:01 No as good as webOS Press will be Dec 23 20:17:08 But a good thing to use while waiting ;) Dec 23 20:17:12 infact it would be easy for them to do it on the pre 2 Dec 23 20:17:21 I am suprised they didnt Dec 23 20:33:34 Hi All, I have a quick question if anyone is available... Is there a way to capture a "Mojo.Event.touchDown" event instead of just a "Mojo.Event.tap" or "Mojo.Event.hold", I don't see a touch event in the API docs... Dec 23 20:33:34 Rick_work: if anything is changed in the inspector, do the changes remain permanent? Dec 23 20:34:03 LoneStar34 no Dec 23 20:34:31 peterson79 it's mousedown and mouseup Dec 23 20:34:40 Rick_work: so I can wreck it if I want to? and nothing will happen? Dec 23 20:34:48 yep Dec 23 20:34:58 Nice!!! Dec 23 20:35:06 peterson79 and they're not mojo events, they're browser events, but you can still listen for them. Dec 23 20:36:16 that's what I was looking for, thanks Dec 23 20:36:25 And just like that, Yo Dawg! gets submitted for review Dec 23 20:38:58 and just like that we confirm kesne is a wigger Dec 23 20:39:07 joking of course Dec 23 20:39:15 CTLAdvance: I got your phrase suggestion Dec 23 20:39:21 "kesne is a wigger" Dec 23 20:39:25 HA Dec 23 20:39:34 I was joking there as well... Dec 23 20:39:47 I am sure I can come up with a few good ones once I know what you got Dec 23 20:42:46 CTLAdvance: did you get my message? Dec 23 20:45:16 Why yes I did Dec 23 20:45:21 hah Dec 23 20:45:24 over 100 Dec 23 20:45:27 AKA 103 Dec 23 20:45:41 Saweet Dec 23 20:47:31 Be back later but for anyone I don't see here during the holiday: Happy HollyDays! Dec 23 20:49:18 HAPPY FESTIVUS! Dec 23 20:50:58