Jan 18 19:14:44 then setupWidget('scat1', ...) setupWidget('scat2') Jan 18 19:14:49 you could always do alt+printscreen in windows, then you just have to chop the emulator window off Jan 18 19:15:58 * haeffb gets pissed when eclipse and emu stop talking to one another. Jan 18 19:16:08 "can't we all just get along?" Jan 18 19:18:21 MetaView: had the list disabled... idiot... Jan 18 19:18:40 haeffb: well, I use the device usually, but there I get from time to time the "app-will-not-be-able-to-install"-problem, only help is dumping the vers-number Jan 18 19:18:50 LoneStar99: hm :) Jan 18 19:36:18 morning all Jan 18 19:37:28 hi everyone Jan 18 19:38:25 actually, looks like you can take screenshots in the emulator with luna Jan 18 19:40:23 i am developing an application for a fund raisng project for a company named SEETA and in that application i want to represent the data in tabular form.. Jan 18 19:40:38 So can anyone tell how can i do so Jan 18 19:43:04 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2237 - mentions how to take screenshots in the emulator btw Jan 18 19:49:52 is there a way to shrink the width of a text field? Jan 18 19:50:39 put it into a table? Jan 18 19:51:16 will that work> Jan 18 19:51:18 ? Jan 18 19:51:33 hi any developer around who has experience in porting a glib/sdl based application to webos? Jan 18 19:51:45 how about in the widget setup ... Jan 18 19:54:24 hey please tell me how can i display data in tabular form Jan 18 19:54:25 ? Jan 18 19:54:51 Yatharth: Do you know how to create a table in HTML? Jan 18 19:55:14 cmusik: join #webos-internals Jan 18 19:55:51 yes i know Jan 18 19:56:07 MetaView: I alredy asked there, maybe I will try again Jan 18 19:57:22 I haven't really had a look into it Jan 18 19:58:01 But how can i do it in webos application Jan 18 19:59:43 webos app: 1 file html, 1 file javascript Jan 18 19:59:59 html:

... Jan 18 20:03:58 hmm.,. anyone know the PROPER way to update a list widget? Should I re-set it up? Jan 18 20:04:13 As it stands, I update the model and do modelChanged() Jan 18 20:04:34 but the list seems to leave weird gaps if its shorter than it previously was Jan 18 20:09:14 MetaView:ya i know the syntax used in html...But will this work directly in webos?? Jan 18 20:12:06 Yatharth: webos is html/javascript. Have you created a webos app yet? Jan 18 20:14:31 AnOutsider: you can also look at listWidget.mojo.noticeUpdatedItems(), .setLength() and .setCount() Jan 18 20:19:58 this is the first application which i m building Jan 18 20:20:10 kmudrick: FYI, in Windows, you can unlock the keyboard from the emulator. Foucs it, then hold right-ctrl...it will shut off the little green arrow at the bottom right of the virtualbox window. Then, you can do a regular ctrl-alt-prtscr. Of course, you have to crop that one Jan 18 20:20:49 so i am facing quite a few problems and there is not much stuff given from where i can learn it Jan 18 20:21:27 anyone here facing difficulties when updating their apps? Jan 18 20:22:04 bryanroth: yes Jan 18 20:22:26 Yatharth: have you done the "hello world" app to get a feel for what's going on? Jan 18 20:22:29 bryanroth: chuq says patches will be rolled out on wed to address them Jan 18 20:23:42 ya i have done that Jan 18 20:24:01 what format is your data? Jan 18 20:25:26 @haeffb I figured it out. I was hiding its parent container then showing it again. When you do that, you have to call showWidgetContainer Jan 18 20:26:05 by format u mean the fields of the table which i want in my table ?? Jan 18 20:26:25 or the from in which i want to store the data Jan 18 20:26:32 *form Jan 18 20:26:50 by format, I mean where/what is your data? can you get it into a javascript object? Jan 18 20:27:02 store the data Jan 18 20:27:36 one way to accomplish what you want to do is just create a

in your scene html file. Jan 18 20:27:50 though right now i have not stored the data anywhere but i would use the html 5 database object to o so Jan 18 20:28:08 ok...the? Jan 18 20:28:14 *then? Jan 18 20:29:05 Then in javascript, you can do things like tempText = "..." Jan 18 20:29:27 then this.controller.get('myTable').innerHTML = tempText; Jan 18 20:30:57 that's one approach. Jan 18 20:31:35 Another would be to use a list widget, and put each row of the tabular data in a row of the list, using CSS to style/format the data Jan 18 20:33:21 can you please eleborate the second method Jan 18 20:34:31 have you compiled/ran the styleMatters, uiWidgets and mojoMatters apps? Jan 18 20:34:44 * sugardave needs to find the mojoMatters app. Jan 18 20:34:54 the table method is probably the better one Jan 18 20:35:15 mojoMatters is quite nice, shows some tricks Jan 18 20:35:43 is it in the samples or do I need to track it down on the dev site? Jan 18 20:37:40 is in the samples Jan 18 20:37:51 but probably came in one of the last SDKs Jan 18 20:37:53 oh, THERE it is :D Jan 18 20:37:59 under one more dir Jan 18 20:38:02 just stumbled upon some weeks ago Jan 18 20:39:46 ya i have ran stylematters and mojomatters Jan 18 20:40:52 ok i'll look into there source codes Jan 18 20:43:53 * haeffb learns not to submit updates to PreCentral over the weekend... Jan 18 20:44:16 hwy? Jan 18 20:44:49 hmm...mojo matters = blank screen :D Jan 18 20:44:50 they pile up and don't get "published" until the end of the weekend. Along with a dozen other apps. Jan 18 20:45:02 sugardave: you're doing it wrong. Jan 18 20:45:08 I guess so Jan 18 20:45:26 oh, maybe I should copy over the source Jan 18 20:45:29 heh Jan 18 20:45:51 mojoMatters has some funnies Jan 18 20:46:36 there we go Jan 18 20:47:10 so does the number of downloads listed in Palmdev site include updates or unique installs? Jan 18 20:47:22 includes updates Jan 18 20:47:26 damn Jan 18 20:47:33 it does? Jan 18 20:47:35 so it's not a good basis for how much earned Jan 18 20:47:37 I thought not Jan 18 20:47:44 now I will have to look again Jan 18 20:48:24 yea i thought it would be unique installs but havn't been paied yet so dunno Jan 18 20:48:28 I don't know haeffb...I think it's purchases Jan 18 20:48:50 have you been paid sugardave and is it consistant with the number on yer dev account? Jan 18 20:48:57 maybe. last I heard it included updates. Jan 18 20:48:58 yeah, it seems to be pretty close Jan 18 20:49:12 wait, are you talking about in the reports? Jan 18 20:49:18 yeah, My Apps Jan 18 20:49:20 crasheed: I'm quite sure it is with updates Jan 18 20:49:24 number should be purchases Jan 18 20:49:41 ok, I thought of appetite Jan 18 20:49:41 the app catalog patch thing definitely includes updates Jan 18 20:49:47 I'm not talking about FEEDS but under your developer account PALMDEV SITE Jan 18 20:49:58 crasheed: pretty sure that's total purchases Jan 18 20:50:02 kk coo Jan 18 20:50:46 crasheed: we're pretty sure it's one or the other. Jan 18 20:50:53 btw funny story Jan 18 20:51:01 my puppy ate my 8gig usb drive Jan 18 20:51:10 luckly i tied a string to it Jan 18 20:51:24 soo i chased him around and managed to pull it out via the string Jan 18 20:51:48 begs the question: do you always tie a string to usb drives? Jan 18 20:51:56 I was wondering... Jan 18 20:52:13 bbl Jan 18 20:52:17 yes when my usb drive is the width and height of a quarter I'd lose it without the string :D Jan 18 20:52:39 crasheed: you should just buy bigger usb drives. save on string Jan 18 20:52:46 rofl Jan 18 20:53:33 or wait a day or two... Jan 18 20:53:47 lol i'm not sure i'd want the USB drive back after a day Jan 18 20:53:56 :) Jan 18 20:54:37 have a cookie which stores multiple values, and need it to save values at different times, scenes, etc.. do not want to be adding the same code over and over.. what is better solution? Jan 18 20:55:12 LoneStar99: hang tight, I'll show you my latest trick Jan 18 20:55:22 sugardave: ok thnaks Jan 18 20:55:57 do not want to write "save" "get" cookie 5 different times in my assistant.js file Jan 18 20:56:18 I make one cookie for one value Jan 18 20:56:31 and I save on cleanup and load on setup Jan 18 20:58:23 MetaView if you do that, and the pre crashes, or the user's battery dies, or he does a hard power off, your data didn't get updated. Jan 18 20:58:52 ---> Puppy vs USB drive http://sudopanda.com/images/CIMG0712.jpg Jan 18 20:59:07 LoneStar99: http://webos.pastebin.com/d434e04b0 Jan 18 20:59:42 Rick_work: well, it's config, that wouldn't be a big problem Jan 18 21:00:02 k Jan 18 21:00:12 comments welcome on my cookie object management Jan 18 21:00:13 I write programs with "more complex data management." Jan 18 21:00:32 for that I use databases Jan 18 21:01:11 sugardave: ok looking at the code Jan 18 21:01:40 pretty straightforward stuff....but lets you update single properties in the cookie...just always have to make sure to keep the dough updated Jan 18 21:02:13 sugar i like yer naming scheme :D Jan 18 21:02:36 thanks :D Jan 18 21:03:01 Btw anyone know how to catch the back gesture? Jan 18 21:03:07 don't want people poping scenes Jan 18 21:03:56 crasheed: I know it's possible, but never done it Jan 18 21:04:08 or at least disable back gesture? Jan 18 21:05:34 sugardave: if I need to load the cookie, when 1.) app is launched 2.) scene activated 3.) button clicked ... with your code, where would I place the main code? Jan 18 21:06:23 you only need to load the cookie once Jan 18 21:06:36 I'd put it in my app or stage controller Jan 18 21:06:49 1.) load cookie settings 2.) save a new value 3.) save new value = cookie calls above Jan 18 21:07:27 hmm Jan 18 21:08:59 LoneStar99: this is my loadCookies function: http://webos.pastebin.com/d42143949 Jan 18 21:09:37 and it goes in my stage controller, and gets called in the stage controller setup before pushing my first scene Jan 18 21:12:14 place main code in the "stage controller" then in 1.) inside "ThisAssistant.prototype.setup" place code from http://webos.pastebin.com/d42143949 is that right? Jan 18 21:12:46 no, that second paste is a standalone function that also goes in your stage assistant Jan 18 21:13:06 man, my in box is winning. Jan 18 21:13:09 then in ThisAssistant.prototype.setup you call loadCookies() Jan 18 21:14:06 chuqui: the most popular man in Sunnyvale? Jan 18 21:14:36 oh ok, then - to call emailAddress' and 'password' ?? Jan 18 21:15:07 NameSpace.cookies.cookieName.dough.emailAddress Jan 18 21:15:33 and you ALWAYS update those values, then call the bake function Jan 18 21:15:35 NameSpace.cookies.cookieName.dough.password ....etc.... Jan 18 21:15:38 won't be popular long if I don't some of these emails dealt with... Jan 18 21:15:38 yes Jan 18 21:17:13 this email says I can use their product to 'make my pleasure and my satisfaction deeper' Jan 18 21:17:26 if there's one thing I can't stand, it's shallow satisfaction Jan 18 21:17:29 chuqui: it would appear as though you need assistants or help Jan 18 21:17:36 sugardave: thought I was about to wrap up on my app udate, but now need to update all the cookie code... Jan 18 21:17:49 such is life Jan 18 21:17:50 :D Jan 18 21:18:52 oh well, your code is alot better, than adding redundant code 5 times.... in the same .js file Jan 18 21:19:01 indeed Jan 18 21:19:03 peak loading vs average load issue Jan 18 21:19:58 thanks sugardave, will begin to update all my code! Jan 18 21:20:15 np Jan 18 21:21:10 no warranty expressed or implied, by the way ;) Jan 18 21:21:24 morning Jan 18 21:21:43 afternoon, rwhitby Jan 18 21:21:57 good evening Jan 18 21:22:23 so when is 1.4 supposidly comming out again? Jan 18 21:22:25 feb1? Jan 18 21:22:32 i'm so afraid it's gona break my app Jan 18 21:22:56 chuqui: so, I got my first Palm payment last month...which was awesome. I remember that it was before the actual end of the month...should we be looking for payments around that same time each month, or is it more fluid than that? Jan 18 21:22:58 casheed it's a sekrit. of course. but you can test against the seed, just get in the early access program Jan 18 21:23:06 howdy rwhitby Jan 18 21:23:30 how often are payments? Jan 18 21:23:31 sugardave so when do I get my 10% "bonus" for being so helpful? Jan 18 21:23:33 (ducking) Jan 18 21:23:42 Is anyone able to test the latest Preware with a combination of homebrew and app catalog updates available, and pushing the "Update All" button? Jan 18 21:23:43 sugardave should be right around the same time every month Jan 18 21:23:49 chuqui: hey, come on to Austin and I'll give you your "bonud" Jan 18 21:23:53 bonus, too Jan 18 21:24:01 chuqui: cool, thanks! Jan 18 21:25:15 chuqui: how often are payments? Jan 18 21:25:36 LoneStar99: once per month after 60-days net or something like that Jan 18 21:25:55 oh ok, cool Jan 18 21:26:08 right on Jan 18 21:26:17 back to updating sugardave code Jan 18 21:27:21 sugardave: i need to add the code from both link 1 and link 2 or else it will not work correctly? Jan 18 21:29:29 * haeffb_pre got coffee, now waiting for wife @ dr's office Jan 18 21:31:14 LoneStar99: yes Jan 18 21:31:22 k Jan 18 21:31:52 * sugardave just watched the trailer for Final Fantasy XIII. "Looks really good." Jan 18 21:33:35 how were the first twelve? Jan 18 21:34:03 well, I didn't start until 7, and I played 10...11 online was an interesting idea, but I couldn't justify the cost Jan 18 21:34:10 7 and 10 were awesome, though Jan 18 21:39:31 sugardave: can I hard code some default values in NameSpace.cookies = { ... } Jan 18 21:40:01 yeah, NameSpace should be changed to whatever you want...I usually use some form of my app name Jan 18 21:40:15 e.g. var MindMaster = {}; first Jan 18 21:40:15 how do you add days to a date such as Date()+6? Jan 18 21:40:30 then MindMaster.cookies = { all that other stuff } Jan 18 21:40:40 and yeah, you can put whatever you want in there Jan 18 21:41:14 but,if some user chooses another option it will update, since it stage assistant? right? Jan 18 21:41:50 that's what you have to handle in the various events...when they make a change, update the dough value, then bake the cookie Jan 18 21:41:59 hi, does anybody in here own a netbook with a windows xp home ulcpc license? Jan 18 21:42:05 Mojo.Model.Cookie('my-cookie-name'), Jan 18 21:42:53 ok, how do I update the "EmailAddress" value? Jan 18 21:43:38 NameSpace.cookies.cookieName.dough.emailAddress = 'whatever'; NameSpace.cookies.bake('cookieName'); Jan 18 21:44:12 digitalslave new Date(today.getTime() + 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24 *6); // add six days worth of milliseconds to the current time. Jan 18 21:44:36 my cookie name is what is in: Mojo.Model.Cookie('my-cookie-name'), ? Jan 18 21:45:10 no, if you're using my example as-is, the cookie name is 'cookieName' Jan 18 21:45:22 it's that property in the cookies object Jan 18 21:45:34 er someCookie Jan 18 21:45:37 not cookieName Jan 18 21:46:39 ok but I change "someCookie" to "abcDonut" i just change all the code to reflect the change Jan 18 21:47:10 yeah, you only have to change that property and make sure you bake('abcDount') Jan 18 21:47:28 ok got it, Jan 18 21:48:24 sugardave: i should not have to make changes to the code in link 2 right? Jan 18 21:49:04 is it just me or does no one use ares? Jan 18 21:49:18 yeah, you will need to match the namespace and the real cookie name Jan 18 21:49:19 lots of people use ares. Jan 18 21:49:27 not very many people use it hang out here. Jan 18 21:49:48 this channel tends to be folks who have been around a while and are used to direct html development Jan 18 21:50:14 digitalslave what's your issue with Ares? Jan 18 21:50:20 need some help with cvs Jan 18 21:50:27 Hey, I use Ares! Jan 18 21:50:44 ...to throw together quick GUIs. Then I download the app and re-do it all :) Jan 18 21:50:49 checked in the wrong files and now I made an update of the previous version Jan 18 21:50:52 MetaView the version control system or did you dislexic CSV? Jan 18 21:51:11 how can I get the previous version back into th rep as working version? Jan 18 21:51:11 Rick-home, it just seems that with api differences easy tasks like forwarding time or date or taking info from one intPicker to the other become laborious Jan 18 21:51:13 Hey, what's wrong with using Comma-Separated Values as your source control?!? Jan 18 21:51:17 CVS Jan 18 21:51:20 hehehe Jan 18 21:51:47 digitalslave there's absolutely no difference in forwarding time between ares and non ares development it's pure javascript date math Jan 18 21:52:13 ditto taking data from one date picker to another, you have to update the model and call modelchanged. Jan 18 21:52:17 no difference. Jan 18 21:53:34 digitalslave can you be more specific about the problems you're having? Jan 18 21:54:42 sugardave: insert inside of "StageAssistant.prototype.setup = function() {" Jan 18 21:54:43 righ? Jan 18 21:56:39 LoneStar99: the only thing that goes in there is the call to loadCookies() Jan 18 21:57:31 the other vars go outside the setup function in the assistant file Jan 18 21:58:14 this.$.dtDate.setDate(Date() + 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 6) this still only gives the current date Jan 18 22:00:36 wth is $? Jan 18 22:01:47 what's with the $ digitalslave Jan 18 22:02:28 thats how all the ares examples are out there and it does work when setting say an intpicker to an exact value Jan 18 22:02:36 oh.... Jan 18 22:02:47 ok Jan 18 22:03:07 wondering when i can do webos fulltime instead of j2me... Jan 18 22:03:10 hmmm Jan 18 22:03:14 :D Jan 18 22:03:53 o.O Jan 18 22:04:23 this.$.dtDate.setDate(new Date(today.getTime() + 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 6) ) Jan 18 22:04:40 today is unknown in that statement Jan 18 22:05:11 hmmmm Jan 18 22:05:49 haha well i guess i dont feel so bad now Jan 18 22:06:37 maybe i should roll up my sleeves and go back to a real ide since i cant even make an egg timer in ares Jan 18 22:07:09 now.getDate()? Jan 18 22:07:24 this.$.dtDate.setDate(new Date(now.getDate() + 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 6) ) ?? Jan 18 22:07:25 .setDate(new Date(new Date().getTime() + (1000 * 60 *60 *24 * 6)) ? Jan 18 22:07:26 digitalslave d1 = new Date() Jan 18 22:08:03 this.$.dtDate.setDate(d1.getDate() + 1 ); Jan 18 22:08:30 that OUGHT to work. Jan 18 22:08:41 d1.getUTCDate() Jan 18 22:09:35 crasheed why UTC, generally, when I want a future date, I want a LOCAL future date. Jan 18 22:09:42 unless I'm someone like Rod. Jan 18 22:09:49 I just wanted to come in here and tell you all, that I just had my first encounter with the Android dev community over at #android-dev, Jan 18 22:10:21 and they were so rude and unhelpful and condescending, I'm reconsidering even spending any more time on Android Jan 18 22:10:37 This community (webos) has always been extremely helpful and friendly Jan 18 22:10:54 The difference is stark as day and night. Jan 18 22:11:01 99.999999% friendly AND helpful Jan 18 22:11:02 :D Jan 18 22:11:03 yeah, webos folks are great! Jan 18 22:11:05 creatorbri thank you. We all __know__ we don't know anything. So we're all in the same boat Jan 18 22:11:11 So thanks to y'all for being good folk! Jan 18 22:11:29 Plus, we tend to drag rude bastards into the corner and beat the shit out of them. Jan 18 22:11:33 lol Jan 18 22:11:43 a combo of Rick_work and sugardave !! it worked! Jan 18 22:11:46 rofl Jan 18 22:12:21 well partially because it was 6 days from the epoch :D Jan 18 22:12:39 There's a few ringleaders over at android-dev that I wish would mosey in here, so they could be taught some manners.. Jan 18 22:13:03 Soooo i'm still trying to figure out how to catch the Back gesture and stop it or disable it all together anyone? Jan 18 22:13:05 not going to happen. We're playing with a "toy os" Jan 18 22:13:30 crasheed you have to look for it on the event stack on the way DOWN and stop propagation. Jan 18 22:13:57 i wish i knew what that ment Jan 18 22:14:53 crasheed: every user interaction is an event. all of the listeners listening for an event basically hand off to each other, like a chain Jan 18 22:15:10 crasheed: stopping propagation means not handing it off to the next person in the chain Jan 18 22:15:13 honestly, in the little time I've spent studying Android, I've seen a remarkable number of similarities.. the major differences are the specific languages used and the differences in OS interface (Palm clearly has them beat in that department.. multitasking sucks on Android) Jan 18 22:15:34 crasheed when you back-swipe it creates an event. Jan 18 22:15:58 that event starts at the "window" and propagates itself down through every div inside the document. Jan 18 22:16:27 so, if you listen for the backswipe event at the window level, before it gets to the FIRST div, you can grab it, and say "No no, don't do that. " Jan 18 22:16:41 good afternoon Jan 18 22:16:49 is palm honestly telling end users to contact developers when apps wont install, http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/44113_en.html ?????? Jan 18 22:16:59 sugardave: [20100118-14:13:19.025477] error: Uncaught ReferenceError: NameSpace is not defined, app/assistants/app-assistant.js:13 Jan 18 22:17:00 yes i already got 2 emails Jan 18 22:17:10 about not installing Jan 18 22:17:16 and I was like use webOS doctor Jan 18 22:17:21 yeah, NameSpace should be changed to whatever you want...I usually use some form of my app name Jan 18 22:17:36 then MindMaster.cookies = { all that other stuff } Jan 18 22:17:48 oops, those were out of order, I missed one in there Jan 18 22:17:53 crasheed did you read this: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1859&Itemid=43#.back Jan 18 22:17:56 you have to define the namespace first, LoneStar99 Jan 18 22:18:03 THEN the cookies object Jan 18 22:18:13 so something like: var myApp = {}; Jan 18 22:18:19 link 1 or 2 Jan 18 22:18:25 then myApp.cookies = {all that other stuff} Jan 18 22:18:28 rick: i'm reading ti right now lol Jan 18 22:18:39 k Jan 18 22:20:50 so crasheed you're going to have to create a handleCommand in your stage assistant. and then in the case, if event.type = "back" then do whatever you want to do with the back gesture. Jan 18 22:21:05 but crasheed you'll need SOME WAY to close the card. :-) don't forget that. Jan 18 22:21:06 crasheed: http://pastie.org/783921 I believe you want something like that Jan 18 22:21:43 something like this right Jan 18 22:21:43 SearchAssistant.prototype.handleCommand = function(event){ Jan 18 22:21:43 if(event.type == Mojo.Event.command) { Jan 18 22:21:43 switch(event.command) Jan 18 22:21:43 { Jan 18 22:21:43 case mojo.event.back: Jan 18 22:22:01 awwwwww the ex-high-school-teacher always wants to leave the fun parts as an exercise for the student catalystmedia Jan 18 22:22:10 Rick_work: hehe Jan 18 22:22:18 catalyst: Thanks Jan 18 22:22:36 Rick_work: Ooops...my bad :S Jan 18 22:23:43 but yeah, catalystmedia that's it exactly and yes crasheed it goes in the stage assistant and you don't need to set up a listener, it's automatic Jan 18 22:24:09 yea i was trying to use a listener at first didn't work XD Jan 18 22:25:19 sugardave: not sure what u meant by myApp = {}; defining NameSpace... Jan 18 22:26:08 LoneStar99: NameSpace is just something I made up. It's an object, which contains other objects....you might want to use something other than NameSpace for your object, such as myApp Jan 18 22:26:20 then you have to make sure it's defined: var myApp = {}; Jan 18 22:26:41 then you do like: myApp.cookies = { all that cookie object stuff } Jan 18 22:27:16 oh got it. Jan 18 22:38:39 What is the best way to get the currently active scene? I tried, Mojo.Controller.getAppController().getStageController('StageName').activeScene() but it seems like there'd be a quicker way Jan 18 22:41:13 this? Jan 18 22:42:23 It's from within another function where this is referencing something else and there isn't a convenient way to pass this to the function (it's pretty deeply nested in); Jan 18 22:45:18 man, you guys make dates complicated Jan 18 22:45:43 haeffb: Why not just include MochiKit.DateTime in your app? It'll save a lot of trouble Jan 18 22:45:52 var d1 = new Date(); d1.setDate(d1.getDate+6)); Jan 18 22:46:24 riskable: because I've never heard of MochiKit.DateTime... :) Jan 18 22:47:19 Whenever I have to do dates/times I usually just include MochiKit along with everything else. The function calls it gives you are all about making life programming JavaScript easier Jan 18 22:47:38 http://mochikit.com Jan 18 22:47:58 Complements Prototype.js quite well Jan 18 22:48:04 catalystmedia: Mojo.Controller.appController.getActiveStageController().activeScene() Jan 18 22:48:20 sugardave: [20100118-14:47:16.468364] error: Error: Cannot read property 'dough' of undefined, line undefined, file undefined Jan 18 22:48:49 riskable: looking now. Jan 18 22:49:04 LoneStar99: this means your object is still not being defined properly....paste it up Jan 18 22:50:12 sugardave: Thank you! Jan 18 22:50:22 catalystmedia: that's The Long Way (tm) Jan 18 22:50:28 there are probably shorter Jan 18 22:50:31 but I like that one Jan 18 22:50:40 MochiKit.Base + MochiKit.DateTime + MochiKit.Format + MochiKit.Text = 50k of the most useful JS functions ever Jan 18 22:51:00 Cleaner than what I was using though. :) Jan 18 22:51:16 yeah, no names :D Jan 18 22:51:53 catalystmedia: and it MAY not work in some instances of multi-stage apps...might have to getStageProxy instead Jan 18 22:51:54 I also like MochiKit.Signal but that nearly doubles the size to 93.5k since it needs MochiKit.DOM and MochiKit.Style Jan 18 22:52:15 sugardave: Thanks for the heads up. I think I may need that. Jan 18 22:52:16 Mojo includes decent event mechanisms so it isn't that useful Jan 18 22:52:24 sugardave: http://pastebin.com/d6e4cd1 Jan 18 22:52:34 MochiKit.Async is excellent if you're doing a lot of AJAX in your app Jan 18 22:52:59 Sorry, my equation mentioned earlier should've been 40k, not 50k :) Jan 18 22:53:07 The extra 10k I had in there was due to MochiKit.Async Jan 18 22:53:13 (which is worth it too =) Jan 18 22:55:30 LoneStar99: syntax error on line 12, extra comma Jan 18 22:55:50 AND 16...no ; Jan 18 22:55:59 you need to NOT have a ; there Jan 18 22:56:14 oh wait Jan 18 22:56:16 scratch that Jan 18 22:56:18 16 is fine Jan 18 22:56:25 still need help with transition... Jan 18 22:57:45 MetaView: what question? Jan 18 22:58:23 sugardave: fixed the above... same error Jan 18 22:58:40 when I try it my app hangs: Jan 18 22:58:56 MetaView: don't try it. Jan 18 22:58:57 var transition = this.controller.prepareTransition(Mojo.Transition.crossFade, false); Jan 18 22:58:57 $("main").innerHTML = "some text goes here"; Jan 18 22:58:57 transition.run(function() {}); Jan 18 22:59:09 well, this is what i do :) Jan 18 22:59:20 but I would like to try it, it looks better Jan 18 22:59:42 previously I got a strange error, but it was prabably my fault Jan 18 22:59:45 oh. well, then you still need help :) Jan 18 23:00:02 now, I don't get an error, just the app hangs :) Jan 18 23:00:40 chuqui: would it be possible to change the timeout on dev site login to something more than 4 hrs? like, maybe 24? Jan 18 23:01:31 thanks for reminding me. I keep forgetting to file a bug on that. Jan 18 23:01:36 hey, what a good question :) Jan 18 23:01:56 but it really helps to remeber the pwd Jan 18 23:03:20 firefox remembers for me. Jan 18 23:03:37 LoneStar99: nor sure why it's failing, but I put my loadCookies(); inside StageAssistant.prototype.setup Jan 18 23:03:40 MetaView: do you need the function inside run()? Jan 18 23:03:59 okay, bg filed on the timeout. Jan 18 23:04:14 MetaView: sorry, no help from me on this one Jan 18 23:04:28 woohoo! I don't care what sugardave says, chuqui is the man! Jan 18 23:05:02 hey, that's not what you said last night :( Jan 18 23:05:11 today is my "catch up on filing bugs" day, it seems. tomorrow will be me "spend the day in jira closing these freaking bugs" day... Jan 18 23:05:30 chuqui: hmm, that's not very incentive-building thinking Jan 18 23:05:34 haeffb: nope Jan 18 23:06:07 I don't care what chuqui says, sugardave is the man! Jan 18 23:06:09 heh. Jan 18 23:06:11 chuqui: well, I thought you are more in birds than bugs... Jan 18 23:06:54 I don't care what says, is the man! Jan 18 23:07:09 heh Jan 18 23:07:54

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