**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 20 02:59:57 2010 Jan 20 03:00:42 hi jenp Jan 20 03:01:51 hi haeffb! Jan 20 03:02:06 howdy all Jan 20 03:02:33 JenP: I have glanced at rrule and rruleTZ but understand may be stretching things. Jan 20 03:03:11 then you're further ahead then me Jan 20 03:03:13 sugardave: your cookies got burned Jan 20 03:04:01 sugardave: jk, gonna release an update to my app with your cookies, Jan 20 03:05:42 hi Adora! Jan 20 03:06:56 JenP: you want 2 trade a tattoo for an iPod... Sorrrento Valley Jan 20 03:07:29 LOL umm I already have 5 tattoos and 2 iPods...got anything better? LOL Jan 20 03:07:57 conducting tests on san diego classifieds, that one came up when searching for ipods Jan 20 03:10:07 "Tattoo buy one get one free!" they must be hard up in Sorrento Valley, Jan 20 03:10:39 brb Jan 20 03:14:50 setWindowOrientation is strange for me Jan 20 03:15:34 LoneStar99: ha, I used to work in sorrento valley Jan 20 03:15:40 aka the "other" valley Jan 20 03:16:05 ps: hi JenP! Jan 20 03:16:15 it is the "tech" center of SD Jan 20 03:16:21 Adora: what is up, person? Jan 20 03:16:31 * haeffb is not hip today Jan 20 03:16:48 haeffb: just scratchin to keep a dig in my groove, yo Jan 20 03:16:58 wut? Jan 20 03:16:58 * Adora makes up for it Jan 20 03:17:06 nice Jan 20 03:17:09 lol Jan 20 03:18:44 20% to go... Jan 20 03:19:04 Adora: do you ever rack up business miles for reimbursement? Jan 20 03:19:50 I've always been able to claim my own miles, but I've never flown enough for business to really get much out of it Jan 20 03:20:29 Ok. just looking for testers for "Myles" Jan 20 03:21:57 setWindowOrientation(xxx) works as expected in emu. Have to close app and restart on Pre... ??? Jan 20 03:24:23 k back... Jan 20 03:26:08 JenP: can you make my app 'pretty'? Jan 20 03:26:39 sure if you figure out rruleTZ and explain it to me... Jan 20 03:26:44 send me your app Jan 20 03:26:52 oh, you drive a hard bargain. Jan 20 03:26:55 lol Jan 20 03:27:34 are you really calling in "Myles"? Jan 20 03:28:03 yep. Jan 20 03:28:11 and maybe "Otto Myles" later. Jan 20 03:28:27 lol i like it Jan 20 03:28:29 * haeffb is so proud. Jan 20 03:29:32 * you have mail * Jan 20 03:30:00 already on it Jan 20 03:31:50 I think you don't ned to worry about rruleTZ. just rrule. Jan 20 03:32:11 isn't it required? Jan 20 03:32:19 TZ should be only if you're changing timezones from where the user is/will be. Jan 20 03:32:42 haeffb....are you planning on a splash screen or intro instructions? Jan 20 03:33:14 haeffb what kinda app are u making? Jan 20 03:33:19 hadn't planned on it. there is help. Jan 20 03:33:40 Myles = IRS/business mileage tracking app Jan 20 03:33:48 kk...i'm looking for areas to make pretty. I actually think your app looks pretty good Jan 20 03:33:50 kewl Jan 20 03:36:11 JenP: yes, you're right, it's required Jan 20 03:36:33 what am i right about? Jan 20 03:37:36 rrruleTZ is required when specifying an rrule in Calendar serviceRequest. Don't sound so surprised! Jan 20 03:38:07 LOL i wasn't sure if you were talking about your app Jan 20 03:38:29 so what are your ideas for prettifying it? Jan 20 03:38:44 I need a canvas to work from.... Jan 20 03:39:30 dunno. for instance, the icons for drawer & clock are just grabbed from google search for free icons. Jan 20 03:39:41 rolf me too Jan 20 03:39:45 i need new icons >.> Jan 20 03:39:48 kk Jan 20 03:39:50 what else Jan 20 03:40:22 think of what make shoes look good, then what would make my app look like good looking shoes. :) Jan 20 03:40:42 LOL...do you want to go dark? or stay light? Jan 20 03:42:02 I do not care. Jan 20 03:42:18 dark shoes are better than light shoes? Jan 20 03:42:35 i think so...but it's a well used trend right now Jan 20 03:43:07 hmm...ok i have an idea let me look through our stock photos Jan 20 03:48:33 I think what you need is a systemRequest for getSystemTime() and then the TZ property. http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1538&Itemid=285#SystemService-getSystemTime Jan 20 03:49:42 sending you mail... Jan 20 03:49:55 i'm playing with your colors scheme Jan 20 04:00:00 LoneStar99: burnt cookies are the suck Jan 20 04:00:49 LoneStar99: when you're ready for some DB pain, check this: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2025 Jan 20 04:00:53 JenP: look at this: http://www.pastie.org/785912 it would help your textfield entries, where only numerical values are useful. Jan 20 04:01:17 sugardave: my head hurt after looking at that earlier today... Jan 20 04:01:28 but looks useful. Jan 20 04:01:37 yay! my head hurt trying to make all that shit work :D Jan 20 04:02:00 it is useful...I have an app that's going to start with 10 tables...makes it a LOT easier to deal with Jan 20 04:02:02 as they say, "pass it forward." Jan 20 04:02:05 yupper will make them num only...but what's weird is i can't get the name textfield to have focus on dialog box launch Jan 20 04:02:49 haeffb: it's also incomplete...haven't decided what I'm going to do with the 'schema' piece I started adding Jan 20 04:02:56 it'll come to me at some point Jan 20 04:03:45 JenP: what have you tried? setInitialFocusedElement('textfieldID'); ? Jan 20 04:04:29 actually, I guess I should put it on the wiki and update it there as it evolves Jan 20 04:05:17 or myTextField = this.controller.get('textFieldID'); setInitialFocusedElement(myTextField); Jan 20 04:05:21 no i was just had autoFocus: true Jan 20 04:05:33 cool haeffb i'll use that Jan 20 04:05:35 * haeffb has no idea which would work, if any Jan 20 04:05:54 I have only used setInitialFocusedElement(null); Jan 20 04:06:23 and it's this.controller.setInitialFocusedElement(null); while in a SceneAssistant Jan 20 04:06:46 ~seen Pre101 Jan 20 04:06:52 ah, crap Jan 20 04:19:01 added a charsAllow for TextField example to snippets: http://www.webos101.com/Code_Snippets#Snippets Jan 20 04:19:37 haeffb...Rick saids: use http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1861&Itemid=250#.getCurrentTimeZone Jan 20 04:19:44 haeffb you're trying to help my wandering student? Jan 20 04:19:58 y'all gotta actually READ the api docs. Jan 20 04:20:00 wandering...no more like spinning in circles Jan 20 04:20:14 but they're borrrring..... Jan 20 04:20:22 and written in some weird language.... Jan 20 04:20:25 so i'm new to this whole ajax thing and especially webOS. i have a server that i've set up to spit out some JSON, but how do i get that into my app? is it by way of ajax.response? Jan 20 04:20:46 look at the ajax get example in the sdk share Jan 20 04:20:53 it's pretty straight foward Jan 20 04:21:00 cool, thanks Jan 20 04:21:04 maik yes, you're going to have to do an ajax request and get the response Jan 20 04:21:07 should under the data app Jan 20 04:21:23 JenP: always listen to Rick-home Jan 20 04:21:24 and maik, this is going to be the hardest programming thing you've ever bent your head around probably. Jan 20 04:21:31 seriously? Jan 20 04:21:38 no hardest was Ajax POST Jan 20 04:21:41 >.< Jan 20 04:21:51 don't say that...i started AJAX class today Jan 20 04:21:57 maik -- have you ever used callbacks and asynchronous subroutines? Jan 20 04:22:08 JenP you already know how to do async Jan 20 04:22:08 not the latter, the former yes Jan 20 04:22:31 then you're golden maik -- the thing to remember is an ajax request is async -- you put out the request Jan 20 04:22:45 and then you point the request object at the function that will HANDLE the response Jan 20 04:22:59 makes sense Jan 20 04:23:01 there's no "waiting around for it" or value passed out of the request object. Jan 20 04:23:21 if that makes sense to you then you are AUTOMATICALLY in the top 15% of javascript programmers. Jan 20 04:23:45 woohoo! Jan 20 04:23:57 * haeffb just graduated to top 15%! Jan 20 04:24:10 OH oh I love when Rick gets into his teacher mode.... Jan 20 04:24:11 haeffb -- you laugh. Jan 20 04:24:14 well maybe ajax isn't exactly what i'm looking for Jan 20 04:24:21 yes it is. Jan 20 04:24:22 JenP: Ajax is EASY...even _I_ can do it Jan 20 04:24:23 all i want to do is send a request to a webpage and get a response back Jan 20 04:24:23 'cept I can't read API docs :( Jan 20 04:24:32 that's exactly what ajax is. Jan 20 04:24:45 ok Jan 20 04:24:49 Rick-home: I don't laugh. I know how long it took me to wrap my brain around some of this stuff. Jan 20 04:24:50 see....uh hem....now I know who all to ask... Jan 20 04:24:52 maik, precisely and exactly that is an ajax call -- send a request, get a response back. Jan 20 04:25:05 hell, that's easy peasy Jan 20 04:25:09 * maik starts reading Jan 20 04:25:26 * Rick-home Rick chuckles evilly... easy peasy. We'll see. Jan 20 04:25:40 Wait till he asks how to loop over SQL transactions. :-) Jan 20 04:26:08 heh, no. that''s what i have stored procedures for :) Jan 20 04:26:13 Mojo.Format who'd have thunk to look for timezone's there? Jan 20 04:26:16 everything is handled server side when possible Jan 20 04:26:18 Rick-home: I think you have grossly overestimated the percentage... Jan 20 04:26:42 maik sqlite doesn't HAVE stored procedures. Will you never EVER want local storage on the phone? Jan 20 04:27:09 oh i don't plan on making developing webos apps a repeat offense :) Jan 20 04:27:41 maik: one and done? I call shenannigans Jan 20 04:27:41 * Rick-home geolocated maik's ip address and prepares leg breaking team. Jan 20 04:27:44 everything i plan on doing is in-house and is already served by MSSQL so it's just a matter of writing a web service to expose the data i need Jan 20 04:27:47 haha Jan 20 04:28:10 i call it offense because i'm not a programmer and don't intend to call myself one, so offense is me disgracing the community with my presence Jan 20 04:28:25 maik and your users never EVER need to access the data when in an interior conference room with no connectivity? Lucky you. Jan 20 04:28:34 exactly Jan 20 04:28:45 cheater Jan 20 04:28:48 if you don't have data connectivity then you don't get to use it Jan 20 04:29:08 maik: I like the way you think. Jan 20 04:29:08 it is just for us IT guys anyways Jan 20 04:29:14 "I don't make the rules, I...oh wait, I DO make the rules!" Jan 20 04:29:19 exactly Jan 20 04:29:39 and maybe other people who we think know how to use it and what it will be and what it won't be Jan 20 04:29:52 uh, Rick-home: i like the way you think, too Jan 20 04:30:28 * sugardave is still trying to figure out how he got in the top 15 percentile bracket. Jan 20 04:30:34 something i was wondering about. does/will palm offer a centralized credential manager api? Jan 20 04:30:46 sugardave: welcome to the elite! Jan 20 04:30:50 maik: none yet, but it would be cool Jan 20 04:30:59 i don't feel comfortable just sticking a username/password in a cookie/db for everyone else to se Jan 20 04:31:00 see Jan 20 04:31:08 even if it is encoded Jan 20 04:31:18 don't...make 'em put it in every time! ;) Jan 20 04:31:30 heh, let's not be ridiculous here :) Jan 20 04:31:34 haha Jan 20 04:31:47 var timeZone = mojo.format.getCurrentTimeZone(); Jan 20 04:31:55 Rick-home is that right? Jan 20 04:32:00 we should be SO past username/password by 2010 Jan 20 04:32:07 then i call it like so Jan 20 04:32:08 "rruleTZ": timeZone, Jan 20 04:32:13 Anyone know the policy on curse words in app titles/content? Jan 20 04:32:18 capital M, capital F Jan 20 04:32:32 i know the policy on T & A Jan 20 04:32:40 Ha Jan 20 04:33:00 JenP Mojo.Format.getCurrentTimeZone() -- note caps Jan 20 04:33:04 yeah, why can't we use the screen to read fingerprints? Jan 20 04:33:04 JenP: from experience. Jan 20 04:33:12 (that's rhetorical, Rick-home) Jan 20 04:33:19 sugardave: perfect! Jan 20 04:33:23 childsd3 yes, the answer is "no" Jan 20 04:33:38 my laptop has a fingerprint reader Jan 20 04:33:46 as does mine Jan 20 04:33:50 sugardave because it's a capacitative screen? :-) Jan 20 04:33:58 * Rick-home loves answering rhetorical questins. Jan 20 04:34:12 haha Jan 20 04:34:27 * Rick-home wondered why everyone was so happy when ruby changed the pre from resistive to capacitative. Jan 20 04:34:53 Resistive screens can work with fingers and they let you use a stylus WHEN YOU WANT TO Jan 20 04:35:08 crap. it's late and I work in the AM Jan 20 04:35:21 i haven't seen a good application of a resistive screen that was very clear with the display and not that terrible film .. Jan 20 04:35:33 Rick-home: didn't work.... Jan 20 04:35:48 haeffb: ha sleepings over-rated Jan 20 04:36:06 ^ Jan 20 04:36:20 whats the palm css tag for putting something at the bottom of screen? Jan 20 04:36:53 doing a curved resistive screen would have probably been technically impossible, and multitouch would have been out of the question Jan 20 04:38:41 crasheed: I do position: fixed; bottom: 0; Jan 20 04:39:03 of course, neither resistive nor capacitive screens have the resolution to be able to read a fingerprint. you could probably hack the optical trackball on a blackberry to do it though Jan 20 04:39:45 crasheed: but I SUCK at html/css....hackery at best Jan 20 04:39:47 sugardave but what if your screen can scroll will that position stay there at the bottom like a header or scroll with the page? Jan 20 04:39:55 it will stay there Jan 20 04:40:06 I think...hmmm... Jan 20 04:40:26 becuase i think i tried that once and it doesn't float but is stuck to the page and scrolls with it Jan 20 04:40:34 here I was all fat and happy and nicoya had to go introduce DATA into the discussion Jan 20 04:40:46 JenP log the output from getCurrentTimeZone please Jan 20 04:40:51 I'm a spoilsport. it's what I do. Jan 20 04:40:51 yeah, you might be right about that...I was doing it as part of my ad management server testing Jan 20 04:41:09 me too :D Jan 20 04:41:14 gotta pop in here at least once a month and ruin someone's fun Jan 20 04:41:20 hehehehe Jan 20 04:41:33 how are things at the old homestead anyway? Jan 20 04:41:43 life is good Jan 20 04:42:58 oops sorry i'll do it right now Rick-home....i got distracted with haeffb app Jan 20 04:44:15 Rick-home: "CST" Jan 20 04:46:58 haeffb that SUCKS DEAD BUNNIES Jan 20 04:47:18 they require olsen datatabse time zones, and then hand you 3 character abreviations? Jan 20 04:48:08 JenP the rrulesTZ requires a value from the third column in this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zoneinfo_time_zones Jan 20 04:49:07 rick got an error dialog box in app...but doesn't look like it's called in log Jan 20 04:50:03 JenP so you're got getting a value out of getCurrentTimeZone? Jan 20 04:50:47 Rick-home: I agree about the bunnies. Jan 20 04:51:29 rick i'm not even finding it ...trying try catch now Jan 20 04:51:41 ...you guys aren't talking about killing bunnies again are you? Jan 20 04:52:09 JenP: no, the bunnies are already dead. which we agree, sucks. Jan 20 04:52:18 nodnod Jan 20 04:52:32 cool Jan 20 04:54:05 Rick-home: is this worth pursuing: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1538&Itemid=285#SystemService-getSystemTime Jan 20 04:56:00 BINGO! thats exactly what she needs. Jan 20 04:56:08 thanks haeffb Jan 20 04:57:08 they could have made it a little easier to access. Jan 20 04:57:20 but at least it's accessable. Jan 20 04:57:51 rick i get PST Jan 20 04:58:11 useless JenP Jan 20 04:58:26 go look at the link haeffb just posted. Jan 20 04:58:29 that has the TZ in it Jan 20 04:58:34 looking Jan 20 04:58:45 this chili is f'n good Jan 20 04:59:00 oh, sorry to change the subject. Jan 20 04:59:11 but it's f'n good. Jan 20 04:59:12 haeffb what do you like in your chili? Jan 20 05:00:09 1 lb grnd beef. 1 large can brooks chili hot beans. 1 onion. 1 can 'rotel' or equiv, drained. misc spices. cook until done. Jan 20 05:00:18 ok so using services again....it is ok to do...onSuccess: TZ, Jan 20 05:00:52 oh, and chop that onion into small pieces. Jan 20 05:01:00 course ground beef, course ground pork, course ground veal, sweet chili powder, smoked paprikca, cumin, oregano, LOTS of onion, garlic, black beans, brooks chili beans, coarse diced tomato, and tomato sauce. Jan 20 05:01:22 i wrote veal I didn't mean veal -- I don't know why I wrote that Jan 20 05:01:37 I ment Bambi. Course ground bambi. Venison. Jan 20 05:02:06 i wrote beef. I meant "meat" Jan 20 05:02:28 although, if I don't have venison, I'll use almost anything, turkey, thumper, whatever. Jan 20 05:02:29 so if i say onSuccess: TZ what does that put TZ in...how do I get into my own variable? Jan 20 05:02:41 no sauce. I like to scoop it up with a saltine. Jan 20 05:03:11 JenP onsuccess is a callback function. Jan 20 05:03:21 Put the call to the function in setup Jan 20 05:03:40 and then make onsuccess: this.setMyTimeZone Jan 20 05:04:17 and that puts the TZ in this.setMyTimeZone? Jan 20 05:04:49 and then somethingassistant.prototype.setMyTimeZone = function(tzobject) { this.timezonestring = tzobject.timezone;} Jan 20 05:07:45 do you not have to .bind setMyTimeZone in the onSuccess? Jan 20 05:08:00 I was shorthanding Jan 20 05:08:44 just curios on my on behalf. still trying to learn this and binding and all. Jan 20 05:09:05 but if I refer to this.timezonestring, I THINK I have to .bind? Jan 20 05:09:39 lol i honestly have no idea what bind does but I put it on every single callback function i have and it just wroks Jan 20 05:09:50 i also put this on every function i use Jan 20 05:09:56 have no idea that that does either Jan 20 05:10:01 this. Jan 20 05:11:13 Ok. I have to awake in < 7 hrs. Gonna let the dogs out and then hit the zzz's. Jan 20 05:11:24 http://pastebin.com/d4c80880 Jan 20 05:11:34 Rick-home does this look right...? Jan 20 05:12:03 g'nite haeffb Jan 20 05:12:29 'nite Jen. Let me no if you have any pretty thoughts. Jan 20 05:12:39 i do! Jan 20 05:12:47 almost have a color scheme set up for you Jan 20 05:12:52 will talk to you about it tomorrow Jan 20 05:13:19 looks good JenP Jan 20 05:13:26 but no good Jan 20 05:13:30 :-( Jan 20 05:13:35 ok, I'll think about it. Jan 20 05:13:39 now when i click calculate nothing happens Jan 20 05:13:40 kk Jan 20 05:13:50 i'm gonna work on making haeffb app pretty Jan 20 05:13:58 gonna have to .bind(this) or pass the results to onSuccess somehow. Jan 20 05:14:06 nodnod Jan 20 05:14:09 Need to think. Jan 20 05:14:20 kk...tomorrow night. Jan 20 05:14:21 stupid api doc doesn't say that the results are passed. Jan 20 05:14:28 It's not an event... Jan 20 05:14:31 stupid api docs. Jan 20 05:14:45 yeah...they need those rewritten Jan 20 05:23:52 onSuccess = function(results) {...}.bind(this); Jan 20 05:24:38 Rick-home: my bird dogs are from Ozawkie. Jan 20 05:26:14 don't know if you're "topeka" or "near topeka" Jan 20 05:27:10 so what's proper etiquette on retweeting if the resultant tweet is too long? Jan 20 05:31:40 So, I need someone to write the front end for an open source save and restore application for webOS Jan 20 05:43:38 rwhitby: does it have to look nice? Jan 20 05:51:38 sugardave: nope, it's mainly for testing the service to start with Jan 20 05:52:19 currently, the service can save and restore your need for speed progress, in case you have to doctor the phone. Jan 20 05:52:37 it's infinitely extensible to save and restore any other piece of data on the phone Jan 20 05:54:02 sugardave: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Save_and_Restore Jan 20 06:02:34 hi all, i'm trying just to reproduce a simple html form for a palm app, anyone have something easy to clone? Jan 20 06:02:42 ares gave me a headache Jan 20 06:08:54 what's the best way to manage a username and password. should i get it from a stored cookie every time i need it or keep it in memory in like a global variable or something? Jan 20 06:11:36 cookie Jan 20 06:11:58 depends what the userame and password are for Jan 20 06:12:01 are they the persons? Jan 20 06:12:08 or login info for a site Jan 20 06:13:26 rwhitby: can you save or create documents without useing undocumented api? Jan 20 06:14:25 crasheed: no idea, I don't work in the mojo area Jan 20 06:17:00 crasheed: login for a site Jan 20 06:19:07 miak: do manage the site if so you should have them save a token instead of username and password Jan 20 06:19:13 have them login once Jan 20 06:19:19 return a token for them Jan 20 06:19:23 and have them use the token Jan 20 06:19:32 and store only the token Jan 20 06:20:12 you can generate a unique token useing their device ID Jan 20 06:21:28 You don't even need a device ID for that.. just generate a sufficiently random token on the server when logging in Jan 20 06:21:55 Alternatively you could try to implement something like OpenID which would give you that stuff out of the box Jan 20 06:22:44 But if you just want to go the easy way you could just store the username/pass in global vars... it's not that problematic Jan 20 06:23:44 meh i treat user login/pass more sensitve and shouldn't be stored in just plain form Jan 20 06:35:37 ya, that was my worry, i hate the thought of storing it plainly Jan 20 06:35:41 i suppose a token is a good idea Jan 20 06:36:38 i'm working on ajax.request/response atm though Jan 20 06:36:41 rwhitby: well, I can sure take a stab at it...I might need a lot of handholding at first, especially with all y'all's fancy git repos and such...plus, I'm still a novice, though I have pretty good aptitude Jan 20 06:39:33 crasheed: well then we should ask whether maik is using https Jan 20 06:39:42 i am :) Jan 20 06:40:06 Good, then not storing them in plain might make some more sense =) Jan 20 06:40:11 my users will be screwed when the first webOS virus hits, then Jan 20 06:40:16 since not using https would make it pretty pointless Jan 20 06:40:20 right Jan 20 06:40:42 is the Ajax framework part of javascript or webos? Jan 20 06:40:48 prototype Jan 20 06:41:00 http://www.prototypejs.org Jan 20 06:41:01 I think Jan 20 06:41:05 yep Jan 20 06:41:07 oh Jan 20 06:41:24 for now prototype is included with Mojo Jan 20 06:41:26 I'm still curious how they ended up with prototype Jan 20 06:41:40 zomg: it sounded good? Jan 20 06:41:42 I find there are libraries much more suitable for writing apps than Prototype Jan 20 06:42:13 each of the most popular libraries have their strenghts and weaknesses Jan 20 06:42:37 And full JS apps aren't one of proto's =) Jan 20 06:42:48 lol Jan 20 06:48:09 zomg: what is prototype missing (that's not also in the Mojo fw) that you would like to see? Jan 20 06:53:55 what ever happened to Twipper? Jan 20 06:54:57 is there any way to log the url that is being requested by ajax.request ? Jan 20 06:55:29 maik: you should know it already? Jan 20 06:55:41 that is true Jan 20 06:55:43 you have to pass url to Ajax.Request... Jan 20 06:56:21 ah, but redirects...hmmm... Jan 20 06:56:42 well i mean with parameters Jan 20 06:56:45 the fully formatted thing Jan 20 06:56:49 oh, I see Jan 20 06:56:59 well, you have to know that, too, yeah? Jan 20 06:57:22 sugardave: i never wrote it Jan 20 06:57:29 gkatsev: dammit! Jan 20 06:58:11 maik: do you deal with mostly posts or gets? Jan 20 06:58:12 well, for whatever the reason, i deliberately tried to fail the request and it doesn't call the failure callback Jan 20 06:58:18 post Jan 20 06:58:19 maik: Jan 20 06:58:28 sugardave: ill do it at some point, but classes started, so, dont have free time Jan 20 06:58:31 anyway, must sleep now Jan 20 06:58:31 maik: if anything returns it's 'success' Jan 20 06:58:34 night all Jan 20 06:58:54 gkatsev: cool, I'm just funnin'...but I'll still write the db piece :D Jan 20 06:58:58 i gave it a bad url Jan 20 06:59:03 bad hostname even Jan 20 06:59:35 I can get onFailure to fire if I go to http://www.example.com/badurl Jan 20 06:59:37 maik you should check the status Jan 20 06:59:57 onComplete: function(transport){ Jan 20 06:59:58 if (transport.status == 200) { Jan 20 07:00:08 is it's 200 it succeeded Jan 20 07:00:17 404 failed etc Jan 20 07:00:20 crasheed: prototypejs.org says that's not a good way to do it Jan 20 07:00:26 oh Jan 20 07:00:26 well Jan 20 07:00:31 I don't read XD Jan 20 07:00:43 heh Jan 20 07:00:47 reading's for suckers, amirite? Jan 20 07:00:53 lollerpants Jan 20 07:01:24 i pretty much jsut bash my head on the keyboard untill it works :D Jan 20 07:01:30 so far so good Jan 20 07:01:33 maik: let me find that project...I had to make sure I was doing onFailure... Jan 20 07:02:39 maik: this is currently commented out, but was the url I used to make sure my onFailure was firing: http://www.example.com/broken.url/ Jan 20 07:02:42 in 1.3.5 Jan 20 07:03:52 that does hit onFailure Jan 20 07:04:00 var request = new Ajax.Request(url, { Jan 20 07:04:00 method: 'get', Jan 20 07:04:00 evalJSON: 'force', Jan 20 07:04:00 onSuccess: this.gotResults.bind(this), Jan 20 07:04:00 onFailure: this.failure.bind(this) Jan 20 07:04:01 }); Jan 20 07:04:06 this hits onfalure for me i think Jan 20 07:04:08 so yay i'm doing it right! Jan 20 07:04:14 maik: sweet! Jan 20 07:09:15 * sugardave duct tapes deihmos to the channel. Jan 20 07:14:11 how can i get format teh pre and get everything back to stock? Jan 20 07:14:24 webOSdoctor Jan 20 07:14:27 the webos doctor doesn't seem to do this any more Jan 20 07:14:31 hmm Jan 20 07:14:34 it should Jan 20 07:14:44 stuff still remains on the pre like application settings, browser cache etc Jan 20 07:14:47 try an older one Jan 20 07:15:32 hard to find an old one Jan 20 07:15:33 dammit i know there is text in the response, why isn't this working Jan 20 07:15:43 is it expecting it in a different format or with a header or something? Jan 20 07:16:28 google comes up just fine Jan 20 07:16:31 * maik destroy city Jan 20 07:17:01 maik: try Mojo.Log.error(Object.toJSON(responseText)); Jan 20 07:17:10 or whatever your super.responseText is Jan 20 07:17:17 and check the logs Jan 20 07:17:26 to see what is in there propery-wise Jan 20 07:17:33 StageAssistant.prototype.readStatusesSuccess = function(response) { Jan 20 07:17:34 var json = response.responseText || "no response text"; Jan 20 07:17:36 Mojo.Log.error(json); Jan 20 07:17:38 } Jan 20 07:17:44