**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 25 02:59:58 2010 Feb 25 03:49:29 sup Feb 25 03:49:38 hey codeslaw Feb 25 03:49:57 good evening Feb 25 03:51:08 how are you? Feb 25 04:22:58 is 1.4 out as yet Feb 25 04:23:50 Do you have a pre? Feb 25 04:29:06 Tibfib: i do! Feb 25 04:29:59 heh. Feb 25 04:30:07 The update app is your friend. Feb 25 04:30:57 got your msg the other day about countdown 0.7, btw you weren't on when i got back. i was on vacation so didn't have much access to the computer Feb 25 04:31:09 got it through app catalog though Feb 25 04:31:46 there's a rumour on PreCentral that someone heard from some Sprint tech that 1.4 is delayed into March Feb 25 04:32:17 ah its cool Feb 25 04:32:21 that's why it's called a rumour :) Feb 25 04:32:27 http://forums.precentral.net/2246316-post1448.html Feb 25 04:33:01 like all rumours regarding the release date it's unsubstantiated of course :-) Feb 25 04:33:54 hmmm... I wonder if it will come tomorrow. Feb 25 04:34:14 all i want is flash Feb 25 04:34:21 nothing in this update that interest me Feb 25 04:34:25 good god, why? Feb 25 04:34:28 i doubt flash will be in the update Feb 25 04:34:44 I'd like to watch hulu on my pre Feb 25 04:34:51 i don't doubt that it will kill your battery and crush all of your hopes and dreams Feb 25 04:34:55 and play a couple flash games... but that's it really Feb 25 04:35:12 i have like 3 batteries and chargers all over Feb 25 04:35:12 well, goodnight all Feb 25 04:35:41 one great thing abou thte pre is that you can change the battery and once charged they don't drain Feb 25 04:36:18 i charged a battery back in august and just recently used it and it was still 100% Feb 25 04:48:49 alright, who's awake? Feb 25 04:51:30 well if anybody is around... I am testing an app that has a webview widget using Ares. The widget displays the web page in the emulator but does not show anything on the device or in the "browser" option Feb 25 05:29:02 getting a crazy error Feb 25 05:30:01 codeslaw, I think everyone is sleeping... and I suck at WebOS programming Feb 25 05:30:29 =( Feb 25 05:30:42 i have 0 experience with ares Feb 25 05:31:20 oh I fixed my prob Feb 25 05:31:32 for some reason "interrogateClicks" was screwing it up Feb 25 05:32:02 i see Feb 25 05:33:20 what are you working on? Feb 25 05:34:16 i am loading an image via file picker, and displaying it in an semi-transparent div Feb 25 05:34:27 and once it has loaded, the app freezes up completely Feb 25 05:34:45 on both device and emulator? Feb 25 05:35:19 yes Feb 25 05:35:37 even when it isn't transparent, so that's not the problem Feb 25 05:35:52 it's gotta be something dumb... Feb 25 05:36:19 like when my webview widget was broken the first time, me and another guy scratched our heads forever on it... wasn't in a scroller Feb 25 05:36:36 does debug show anything? Feb 25 05:46:15 quick question: how do you register for the gesture back event? I've searched the book over and over Feb 25 06:39:00 phil_bw: http://webos101.com/Mojo.Event.back Feb 25 07:36:35 anybody know if you have to use the electrical plug that comes with the pre in order for the touchstone to work? Feb 25 10:09:49 hi Feb 25 13:49:53 ok so I have yet to play with the Nokia N900 but the E71 sucks compared to the Pre. Though it's not really comparable because the E71 is not touch screen. Pre is so easy/fast due to the touch screen :( Feb 25 13:50:03 guess I will have to keep the Pre till I at-least try out the N900 Feb 25 14:36:30 i see reality9110's radiotime app still is missing from the app catalog.. un freaking real Feb 25 15:04:34 Hi, either I'm blind or the documentation isnt really helpfull, how do I use the vibration? i copied the following from another app, but i neither know what the period thing does, nor if thats really everything about it http://paste.pocoo.org/show/182541/ Feb 25 15:10:03 anyone? Feb 25 15:17:24 is there a way in the app store that i can see any updates for apps i have downloaded? Feb 25 15:17:56 not really as far as i know Feb 25 15:17:58 Updates -> Show upates launches the app store, but no updates. are there just no updates? is it lying to me? Feb 25 15:18:01 hucksy: ah Feb 25 15:18:18 i have been deceived! Feb 25 15:18:49 Robdor: your screencast was great. thanks. definitely helped, and cleared some things up in my mind Feb 25 15:19:00 Robdor: do another. Feb 25 15:19:28 I'm working on my next one right now. It should be out by the weekend. Feb 25 15:19:36 hawt Feb 25 15:20:00 Robdor: its going to just pick up where the other left off? Feb 25 15:23:08 hi Feb 25 15:23:17 Yeah, it's going to cover the "home" scene of the app. Initially I was going to cover the repo lists, but I decided to spend a little more time on the home scene to improve design and usability. Feb 25 15:26:55 nyah Feb 25 15:27:18 I'm going to be cleaning up the code tonight and start recording tomorrow. You can checkout the repo_lists branch on GitHub to see what is involved in it. Feb 25 15:27:39 awesome Feb 25 15:28:13 I think one of the most important parts of this screencast is going to be Mojo.View.render. It's a little method that goes a long way in keeping code cleaner. Feb 25 15:30:36 orly? ill have to look at up. Feb 25 15:36:08 hum...really noone for my prob? Feb 25 15:36:48 Toaster: what's your prob? Feb 25 15:37:01 (16:04:34) Toaster: Hi, either I'm blind or the documentation isnt really helpfull, how do I use the vibration? i copied the following from another app, but i neither know what the period thing does, nor if thats really everything about it http://paste.pocoo.org/show/182541/ Feb 25 15:38:14 com.palm.vibrate only works for com.palm apps Feb 25 15:38:29 what you need is system sounds: vibrate Feb 25 15:38:39 just a moment I'm looking it up Feb 25 15:39:31 Mojo.Controller.getAppController().playSoundNotification("vibrate", "", 1); Feb 25 15:40:02 mh...ok...is there a manual for this? Feb 25 15:40:32 not that I would know of Feb 25 15:40:57 playSoundNotification is standard but the "vbrate" is custom and undocumented Feb 25 15:42:07 mh, 1 is duration, i guess? Feb 25 15:42:30 yes, but you can't really control it, as far as I know Feb 25 15:42:45 this really sucks..hum. Feb 25 15:43:00 yes Feb 25 15:43:43 but, http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/preshaver <--this app uses com.palm.vibrate and does work, it vibrates like 10 seconds Feb 25 15:47:33 tonsils suck. Feb 25 15:47:50 is palm.vibrate documented or no? Feb 25 15:47:57 oh nvm. Feb 25 15:47:59 * Kuraiou should learn how to read. Feb 25 15:48:43 Toaster: what's the app ID? Feb 25 15:48:46 com.palm ? Feb 25 15:48:52 then it is allowed to use it Feb 25 15:49:48 um, yes, it com.palm.app.preshaver Feb 25 15:50:16 so, i just have to name my app com.palm and it gets additional permissions? oO Feb 25 15:51:22 yes Feb 25 15:51:53 this doesnt make any sense, does it? Feb 25 15:54:33 it makes sense, com.palm is palm only and has access to further APIs which aren't public Feb 25 15:55:08 if you want to have your app in the catalog, com.palm is a no-go Feb 25 15:55:35 mh, okay. Feb 25 16:02:49 thank you for trying to help =) cu Feb 25 16:05:50 cul Feb 25 16:58:05 rehi Feb 25 17:01:26 Any sign of updates? Feb 25 17:01:54 Mercury: Haven't seen anything. Feb 25 17:02:23 That's, disappointing. Feb 25 17:03:02 to get my ported app into the launcher, where do i need to install the folder with the appinfo.json? Feb 25 17:05:20 MetaView: It goes in /media/cryptofs/usr/palm/applications (I think, that's from memory) Feb 25 17:05:28 well... Feb 25 17:05:42 MetaView: It goes in /media/cryptofs/usr/palm/applications/com.yourdomain.appname (I think, that's from memory) Feb 25 17:09:49 ok, thx Feb 25 17:18:07 there is an apps part in cryptofs, but the other parts are correct :) Feb 25 17:18:20 ok, let's try it Feb 25 17:21:05 icon is there, cool Feb 25 17:21:33 well, it doesn't launch Feb 25 17:24:09 MetaView: Usually you need to do a luna-send with a rescan Feb 25 17:24:18 If you manually add an app Feb 25 17:24:45 luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/rescan {} Feb 25 17:25:35 is it true that you can't do iphone development on linux? Feb 25 17:25:41 ya i know, bad question... Feb 25 17:26:16 Roy-Pre101: I did it, have the luna mgr installed Feb 25 17:26:26 but it just doesn't start, the icon is there Feb 25 17:26:47 if I start it manually from the terminal, it doesn't work, something is missing Feb 25 17:27:36 joetweeply: It's mostly true. Feb 25 17:27:47 this is totally crap Feb 25 17:28:11 Why are you asking about iPhone development here? Feb 25 17:33:29 quick opinion question: for a card game, would you rather drag and drop a card, or tap a card and tap where to place it? Feb 25 17:36:13 Both. Feb 25 17:36:16 :D Feb 25 17:36:21 * VincentLaw facepalms Feb 25 17:36:44 I'm a drag-n-drop guy myself but sometimes tap and move works better, especially with hints. Feb 25 17:37:15 I just think, for the number of cards I will have displayed, that it would be easier to tap than it would to drag accurately Feb 25 17:37:59 Roy-Pre101 ... just i am kinda disappointed in the app store development of palm in europe Feb 25 17:38:01 Test it on a few people. Mock up the game and see if they try to drag or tap. Drag is a more familiar way to interact. Feb 25 17:38:14 joetweeply: Understood. Feb 25 17:38:24 joetweeply: Next month, I think? Feb 25 17:38:34 yeah i totally hope that Feb 25 17:38:38 but dunno Feb 25 17:41:57 plus it just sounds dope telling the chicks "i got an app on the palm pre and the google android" Feb 25 19:06:27 anyone tried using jQTouch with webOS? Feb 25 19:09:57 heya Feb 25 19:10:46 what is the best way to profile and improve application startup time Feb 25 19:10:58 i find the tooling in that space seriously lacking Feb 25 19:11:12 i think there's a thread in the palm developer forums Feb 25 19:12:07 hardly, https://developer.palm.com/distribution/search.php?keywords=profiling Feb 25 19:12:17 1 result with my reply being only Feb 25 19:12:18 let me check Feb 25 19:15:35 i cant even view the timing logs (or any logs whatsoever) when running the app on the device Feb 25 19:15:48 palm-log -d usb -f com.... Feb 25 19:15:50 shows nothing Feb 25 19:16:24 getting timing results from the emulator is effectively useless Feb 25 19:16:44 i swear there was a thread Feb 25 19:16:54 about reducing the amount of loaded js files etc. Feb 25 19:17:19 i guess you can minify and join into a single js file Feb 25 19:17:31 but i doubt that has any real improvement Feb 25 19:17:38 you could try Feb 25 19:17:48 well i would if i could time the damn thing Feb 25 19:17:53 maybe it was in the precentral developer forums Feb 25 19:17:54 but i cant see the logs from the device Feb 25 19:17:59 is your app not fast enough in startup? Feb 25 19:18:40 i think its fast, but i'd like to get into habit of doing it right Feb 25 19:18:46 i have no idea what costs what Feb 25 19:19:17 launch time is very important for my app Feb 25 19:19:48 so i have to optimize it no end Feb 25 19:20:37 can anybody view the logs when you run your app on the device vs emulator? Feb 25 19:21:15 palm-log or cat /var/log/messages via novaterm/ssh Feb 25 19:21:43 tail -f /var/log/messages Feb 25 19:21:50 palm log shows nothing even thought its connected, let me try via ssh Feb 25 19:22:00 palm log is connected* Feb 25 19:22:10 whats the ssh port? Feb 25 19:22:31 5522 Feb 25 19:22:35 for the emulator Feb 25 19:22:46 you can also use novaterm Feb 25 19:22:52 novaterm -t open tty:// Feb 25 19:22:56 i cant ssh into the device can i? Feb 25 19:23:10 palm-log shows emulator logs just fine Feb 25 19:23:17 i put the same binary on the phone and nothing Feb 25 19:23:27 but for timing emulator logs are useless Feb 25 19:23:29 the device does logging differnt Feb 25 19:23:41 you have to set a logging level in a json file Feb 25 19:24:08 { "logLevel":20, "timingEnabled":true, "logEvents":false, "debuggingEnabled":false, "escapeHTMLInTemplates":false} Feb 25 19:25:02 fwiw, manually doing mojo transitions is broken for me unless i disable timingEnabled Feb 25 19:25:33 ill keep that in mind thank you kmudrick Feb 25 19:26:45 so with that in json file Feb 25 19:26:47 palm-log -d usb -f com.dogood.phonefavs Feb 25 19:26:56 following logs for ... Feb 25 19:26:58 and nothing Feb 25 19:28:06 the device is a pixi plus if that matters Feb 25 19:30:46 any clues? Feb 25 19:33:25 sorry, i don't Feb 25 19:33:31 i rarely use palm-log Feb 25 19:33:57 i usually manually peek at /var/log/messages Feb 25 19:33:59 what do you use to debug? Feb 25 19:34:00 isn't there a loglevel you have to set in a json file? to 99 or something? Feb 25 19:34:09 hallo noaXess Feb 25 19:34:11 i set it to 20 Feb 25 19:34:15 let me try higher Feb 25 19:34:16 hi swisstomcat Feb 25 19:34:21 maybe its different on the device Feb 25 19:34:31 swisstomcat: wasup? Feb 25 19:34:49 it's different on the device than on the emulator Feb 25 19:34:51 only error logs on device Feb 25 19:34:58 swisstomcat: any answer from palm? Feb 25 19:35:00 so, what's the over under on 1.4 landing today? Feb 25 19:35:05 no warnig or info Feb 25 19:35:06 noaXess: nothing yet Feb 25 19:35:25 noaXess: although adora said yesterday that she'd received my email and was getting back to me Feb 25 19:35:43 haefb_pre: how would i look at timing logs then? Feb 25 19:35:50 from the device Feb 25 19:36:13 swisstomcat: ok.. so she know's the idea :) Feb 25 19:36:29 also cc'd chuq Feb 25 19:37:08 swisstomcat: and me? 8-) Feb 25 19:37:16 no :) Feb 25 19:37:47 send it.. so i know wasup :) Feb 25 19:37:56 will do Feb 25 19:42:16 howdy folks Feb 25 19:43:03 hello Feb 25 19:43:07 hihi Feb 25 19:43:14 howdy Feb 25 19:48:09 my app cat crawler tesults got all jacked up with the app web page changes... Feb 25 19:48:21 tesults = results Feb 25 19:49:44 which pages were changed? Feb 25 19:50:08 http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/022410-why-palm-cant-be.html Feb 25 19:51:54 http://developer.palm.com/webChannel/index.php?packageid=com.buildasearch.search.app Feb 25 19:52:16 oh, didn't know they changed it Feb 25 19:53:51 realized it after testing my app, and getting some ugly ass results Feb 25 19:54:04 but 99% fixed Feb 25 19:54:56 new fixes, it used to take 2+ minutes to crawl 1,700+ pages now about 30 seconds Feb 25 19:55:27 a new app? Feb 25 19:56:50 http://urloid.com/palm8 Feb 25 19:57:07 oh, cool Feb 25 19:57:47 it now has video links to app videos and displays web distro and app catalog apps Feb 25 19:57:49 wow, moo downloads went to over 3700 on one day Feb 25 19:58:00 wow nice! Feb 25 19:58:02 almost 18k total Feb 25 19:58:15 damn Feb 25 19:58:30 swisstomcat: what about that link above? ... > There is no reason for anyone to purchase a Palm smartphone that makes sense, save a few people who hate Apple, Android, and BlackBerry with equal passion. All three competitors are better choices than a Palm Pre Plus or Pixi Plus. Feb 25 19:59:01 noaXess: something i found ... also http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Palm-geraet-ins-Schleudern-940869.html (in german) Feb 25 19:59:04 bad press is not good Feb 25 20:00:08 yeah, it sucks, they are to busy kissing google and apple ass Feb 25 20:02:18 LoneStar99: yep... the pay money for closed devices... Feb 25 20:03:01 noaXess: the average user doesn't care, or even know the notion of closed vs open Feb 25 20:03:05 yeah Feb 25 20:03:26 phones are more appliances than computers to "normal" people Feb 25 20:03:46 exactly Feb 25 20:03:53 see that discussion about netbook<->ipad .. same thing Feb 25 20:04:33 but the good thing about webos/pre/pixie is it's openness on one side and also polish on the other side Feb 25 20:05:20 i bought a webos device beacause it was the most polished OS next to iphone os Feb 25 20:05:28 swisstomcat: really depends on your definition of polish. the pre's construction hardware wise is pretty junky compared to other smartphones Feb 25 20:05:39 that's true .. i meant the polish of the os Feb 25 20:05:56 i agree that the hardware could be better Feb 25 20:06:03 having said that if i had better service on the iphone i would have stayed there, so when iphone hits verizon palm better have a different niche Feb 25 20:06:16 the webos mail client is also painfully slow compared to other devices Feb 25 20:06:17 like the old palm t or how they were called? metal case Feb 25 20:06:35 slide-out keyboard Feb 25 20:07:20 i think the pixi feel is pretty awesome - it is a shame that it is only a "lite" device, and kind of underpowered in comparison to the pre Feb 25 20:07:23 keyboarD? Feb 25 20:07:43 yeah, i'd probably buy a pixi too otherwise Feb 25 20:07:58 webos apps are slower than anything out there because they essentially need a new browser instance every time they start Feb 25 20:08:06 and JS is nice but its a dog next to C Feb 25 20:08:38 metaview: tungsten t? Feb 25 20:09:38 mmmm C my first love Feb 25 20:10:13 pacemkr: maybe palm is ahead of the time .. before cpu power catches up Feb 25 20:10:31 swisstomcat: thats exactly what i was thinking Feb 25 20:10:43 unfortunately it wont help them much in short term Feb 25 20:10:48 wish i could try webos on a snapdragon proc Feb 25 20:10:52 yeah, i agree Feb 25 20:11:17 companies/products being ahead of their time rarely helps them Feb 25 20:11:49 i think if we could get close to native startup time, and ability to head into C land for things like graphics and audio, we would have best of both worlds Feb 25 20:12:38 startup time for apps really makes the device feel slower, on the iphone, esp build in apps, start effectively instantly Feb 25 20:14:11 maybe if framework js didnt have to load every single time it would be better.... you know at least memcpy that chunk and throw the application code over it Feb 25 20:14:38 pdk apps are really fast Feb 25 20:14:47 startup time is ok Feb 25 20:15:10 i suspect ill be waiting quite a while for that on the pixi Feb 25 20:15:40 can you build js apps and access pdk binaries in the same app? Feb 25 20:15:54 to off load heavy stuff? Feb 25 20:16:07 not sure yet Feb 25 20:16:28 swisstomcat: the tungsten t did had a keyboard Feb 25 20:16:33 the tungsten c and w had Feb 25 20:16:35 apparently you can access them as a service over dbus Feb 25 20:16:54 dbus? Feb 25 20:16:54 metaview: maybe i don't remember it correctly .. but it was built like a tank Feb 25 20:17:11 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus Feb 25 20:17:17 tungsten c Feb 25 20:17:22 message bus system Feb 25 20:17:27 oh i guess thats good enough Feb 25 20:17:31 message passing Feb 25 20:17:39 i wouldnt expect much beyond that Feb 25 20:17:44 you can ask about it on #webos-internals Feb 25 20:17:56 thanks Feb 25 20:18:58 the 3d apps using the pdk are fast Feb 25 20:19:58 i guess the pdk will hold us over to better cpus that can handle these sandboxed webapp types =) Feb 25 20:21:13 swisstomcat: how are your works with contact/calendar data? Feb 25 20:21:51 nothing yet, noaXess Feb 25 20:24:07 also, if i may, a good profiler will do wonders to improving existing apps, otherwise its effectively impossible to optimize performance Feb 25 20:24:52 they are using the firebug like inspector already Feb 25 20:25:23 a profiler would fit in very nicely in there Feb 25 20:26:48 i hope they are working on something Feb 25 20:28:38 app metrics for moo are pretty interesting Feb 25 20:28:54 wats that Feb 25 20:28:59 moo is my app Feb 25 20:29:12 and i'm monitoring the selected preferences Feb 25 20:29:29 to see which features are turned off Feb 25 20:29:32 oh i remember you mentioned that before Feb 25 20:29:43 any interesting findings Feb 25 20:29:43 ? Feb 25 20:30:30 most people don't care about the preferences Feb 25 20:31:01 half of those who do turn off the "shake to sound feature" Feb 25 20:31:03 swisstomcat: what are you using for monitoring that Feb 25 20:31:16 my own backend Feb 25 20:32:13 about 1/4 turn off the googley eyes Feb 25 20:33:08 it's like a/b testing in webapps Feb 25 20:33:27 googley eyes are spooky! Feb 25 20:33:46 only 1/4 seem to agree Feb 25 20:33:56 of the users :) Feb 25 20:34:39 23% Feb 25 20:44:49 well i have to be going Feb 25 20:44:53 later Feb 25 20:47:21 is 1.4 out as yet Feb 25 20:48:52 duno Feb 25 20:48:55 don't know Feb 25 20:49:26 no, not out yet Feb 25 20:49:36 we'll get it when it's ready :) Feb 25 20:49:54 i'd guess that it will be delayed Feb 25 21:04:42 hey all Feb 25 21:04:49 hey codeslaw Feb 25 21:04:57 got a really crazy problem Feb 25 21:05:10 i'm using the filepicker to select an image from photos Feb 25 21:05:24 and then loading that image in a div via javascript Feb 25 21:05:48 i have another div with text widgets positioned on top of it, and the image div is semi-transparent Feb 25 21:06:03 once the image has loaded, the whole app freezes Feb 25 21:06:10 can't type, press buttons, or scroll Feb 25 21:06:34 emu or device? Feb 25 21:06:38 both Feb 25 21:06:48 which is the really weird part Feb 25 21:06:48 can you still ssh/novacom into it? Feb 25 21:06:57 haven't tried that Feb 25 21:07:04 no errors in the log though Feb 25 21:07:08 novacom -t open tty:// Feb 25 21:07:13 cat /var/log/messages Feb 25 21:07:30 will have to do this when i get home Feb 25 21:08:30 seems like a strange problem Feb 25 21:12:43 http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/151786#151786 Feb 25 21:17:38 oh Feb 25 21:18:52 App Cat Search is now smaller, faster and more relevant http://urloid.com/palm8 Feb 25 21:31:45 noaXess: http://www.openexpo.ch/index.php?id=339 (scroll to the bottom) Feb 25 21:33:44 1,729 total (web and app catalog) apps Feb 25 21:34:51 swisstomcat: coool :) Feb 25 21:36:32 gonna go. night Feb 25 21:36:38 night Feb 25 21:42:02 night7 Feb 25 21:44:28 noaXess: now we have to advertise it Feb 25 21:52:33 swisstomcat: yes.. meet us soon Feb 25 21:52:41 yup Feb 25 21:55:16 check tomorrow our cals' Feb 25 21:55:35 i'm in the mountains Feb 25 21:56:57 let's chat on monday Feb 25 21:59:13 okay Feb 25 21:59:22 where you go? forgot Feb 25 21:59:44 biglen/UR Feb 25 22:00:37 anyone know what an IPK is? what compression does it use? Feb 25 22:02:12 http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5287 Feb 25 22:05:50 night everyone Feb 25 22:06:08 laters swisstomcat Feb 25 22:10:50 I'm not sure if this is really a question, more of a need to cement what I'm reading... All the .js files I use in my project need to be somehow referenced in sources.json? Feb 25 22:12:45 BoomerET, not necessary Feb 25 22:12:56 necessarlily Feb 25 22:15:20 Ok, there are exceptions, thanks! Feb 25 22:16:27 yeah Feb 25 23:35:50 hi all! Feb 26 00:10:21 sweeet, got a notification system set up Feb 26 00:10:55 hi Tibfib Feb 26 00:11:14 hey JenP Feb 26 00:11:43 what's shakin? Feb 26 00:11:56 nuttin. you? Feb 26 00:12:07 nothing really, just working on my chat app Feb 26 00:12:33 which app? Feb 26 00:12:38 Its a new one Feb 26 00:12:50 oh cool! Feb 26 00:12:51 Haven't decided on a name yet... but it's BBM or Ping! for webOS Feb 26 00:13:36 BBM? Feb 26 00:13:43 BlackberryMessenger Feb 26 00:13:53 ahhh kk Feb 26 00:14:26 hi all Feb 26 00:14:31 hola Feb 26 00:14:34 hey Bmyers! Feb 26 00:14:40 hows it going Feb 26 00:14:48 good! Feb 26 00:17:08 still snowing here Feb 26 00:17:12 all day Feb 26 00:17:23 wow! Feb 26 00:17:25 Where you at? Feb 26 00:17:51 Or in english: Where are you? Feb 26 00:18:18 well...proper english. Feb 26 00:19:02 new england Feb 26 00:19:36 ah nice Feb 26 00:20:19 JenP: FYI: http://www.webos-internals.org/awstats/ipkg.preware.org/awstats.ipkg.preware.org.200909.html - just starting to generate them based on old logs Feb 26 00:21:22 rwhitby: whoa you move a lot of data Feb 26 00:21:43 rwhitby that's great! Feb 26 00:24:43 Tibfib: we move probably 10x that today Feb 26 00:26:35 why the increase? Feb 26 00:29:53