**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 27 02:59:56 2010 Feb 27 03:59:52 Argh... anyone knows where I can find the var types webos supports? Basically I want to do an AND operation between 2 32 bit integers, and it returns a negative number :S Feb 27 04:01:05 NuttyBunny: http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp Feb 27 04:02:25 I need to find an HTC Hero on the cheap Feb 27 04:03:26 #android is two irc channels to the left Feb 27 04:04:02 I'm sure it is. Feb 27 04:04:25 I'm not an android developer, however. Feb 27 04:04:56 whatfer you want the Hero? Feb 27 04:05:21 Didn't you hear? My Pre died today Feb 27 04:05:29 not gonna get another one? Feb 27 04:05:50 uh, yeah. but whatfer you want a Hero? Feb 27 04:06:07 It's a higher quality phone in terms of build. Feb 27 04:06:19 webOS >>> android Feb 27 04:06:20 I'm getting the Pre replaced, but it's just not going to cut it. Feb 27 04:06:27 so was my m505 Feb 27 04:06:38 As is the Motorola Q I'm using right now... Feb 27 04:06:45 er, except that it wasn't a phone. Feb 27 04:06:50 Tibfib: I didn't say it wasn't. Strictly talking hardware here. Feb 27 04:06:54 but aside from that. Feb 27 04:07:28 * haeffb not impressed with Android Feb 27 04:07:49 yeahhhh...please oh please palm, release a nexus one beastlyness phone running brilliant webOS Feb 27 04:08:19 and, I don't plan on throwing my Pre against the wall, so I'm cool with it. Feb 27 04:09:20 haeffb: I didn't do anything to my Pre. I woke up this morning...that's it. Touchscreen was dead. Feb 27 04:09:41 sounds like a warranty replacement to me. Feb 27 04:09:46 haeffb: totally agree, i don't understand why a lot of people like it... it's half-baked and sloppy. The entire idea is Feb 27 04:09:47 It definitely is. Feb 27 04:10:15 Right now, I'm more impressed with how Android is advancing than WebOS. Feb 27 04:10:15 actually, I'm on my second Pre now. Feb 27 04:10:24 me as well Feb 27 04:10:39 first one got stepped on and cracked screen Feb 27 04:10:50 but it's kinda hard to blame that on build quality. Feb 27 04:11:03 Android may be advancing, but it's got a long way to go to catch up. Feb 27 04:11:07 And we're redoing the Android RadioTime app as well so... Feb 27 04:11:21 but, I'm buyist Feb 27 04:11:22 maybe android 3.0 will be complete >.< Feb 27 04:11:39 webOS is missing a lot of stuff. Feb 27 04:11:50 Tons of things. Feb 27 04:11:53 but nothing that is mission critical for me. Feb 27 04:11:58 yeah Feb 27 04:11:59 Sockets. Feb 27 04:11:59 your mileage may vary Feb 27 04:12:21 Nothing critical here either. Except a decent JRPG... :) Feb 27 04:13:42 I'd like to see better transitions, sockets, much much much better media integration. Feb 27 04:13:59 I'd like to see WMA support. Feb 27 04:14:03 GPU! Feb 27 04:14:15 I don't think WMA is in the picture. It's too costly Feb 27 04:14:59 an employee of mine just upgraded his Instinct to a Hero. He's kinda disappointed, thought he was getting more than he did. Feb 27 04:15:30 haeffb: zsoc is working on wma support Feb 27 04:15:31 In terms of? Feb 27 04:15:51 rwhitby: Better tell him to be weary of the giant. Feb 27 04:16:11 mainly apps, I think. He felt many of the apps that he tried were "half-baked." Feb 27 04:16:19 Of course, that's true of many webOS apps as well. Feb 27 04:16:44 haeffb: I was going to say...have you peaked at our catalog lately? Feb 27 04:16:55 rwhitby that is great news. Feb 27 04:17:12 ffmpeg too Feb 27 04:17:15 reality9110: yes. I even wrote some of those half-baked apps... :) Feb 27 04:19:03 I think you'll see the Android marketplace take off this year Feb 27 04:27:07 I hope somebody releases a wimax router this year as well. Feb 27 04:30:59 JRPG, eh...? Feb 27 04:32:01 I'd like ff1 and ff2 like the iPHone got Feb 27 04:32:13 heh Feb 27 04:33:15 that'd be nice, but the games webOS has been getting have been pretty decent for the most part Feb 27 04:33:19 but yeah, something to really kill time with Feb 27 04:33:31 I want to make an RPG of some form, but I've already got a backlog of 2-3 apps Feb 27 04:34:13 and March is going to be tricky because of Script Frenzy Feb 27 04:34:19 Yeah we are getting pretty good games, I'd just love an RPG. Feb 27 04:34:55 * Kuraiou|anime nods. Feb 27 04:35:20 I'm old. I don't game. But I did enjoy Epocrates Feb 27 04:36:24 haha, yeah, that is not something that affects or interests me, even though the company I work for is (sort of) in the Healthcare Industry Feb 27 04:37:17 I'm a doctor so it's pretty relevant. Feb 27 04:37:26 hm Feb 27 04:37:39 That's good to hear, then :) Feb 27 04:37:43 It's a very professional app, for sure. Feb 27 04:37:51 And webOS could definitely use more professional tools. Feb 27 04:38:33 Unfortunately, my professional ambitions are not the kind that are well-suited to phones.... however, my hobbies definitely are. Feb 27 04:39:08 It's not as professional as say Skyscape Feb 27 04:39:51 PSA: The 'personal soundtrack' shirt from ThinkGeek is perhaps the baddest-ass piece of clothing one can own. Feb 27 04:40:52 hey doc, how's the radio business? Feb 27 04:41:07 It's pretty good, I'd say. Feb 27 04:41:17 awesome Feb 27 04:42:05 A couple of missteps in getting the latest release pushed to the Pre App Catalog, but after that, good. Feb 27 04:42:16 Except my Pre broke Feb 27 04:42:28 yeah, I saw that...bummer Feb 27 04:42:34 are you going to get a new one? Feb 27 04:42:48 I need to obviously Feb 27 04:43:06 But it will be strictly for development Feb 27 04:43:27 going to get an OG-Pre or a Pre Plus? Feb 27 04:43:50 I'm with Sprint so OG Feb 27 04:45:09 They refused to just swap at the Sprint store today. Feb 27 04:45:16 lame. Feb 27 04:45:27 that is lame Feb 27 04:45:41 Alright, night! Feb 27 04:45:54 That sucks. I went in with an oreo pre and walked out with a replacement Feb 27 04:45:55 Yes, especially when it would have been next week before I got a new one. Feb 27 04:46:36 So I would have been phoneless. Luckily, I still had my old Motorola Q in my glovebox. Feb 27 05:06:27 i remember owning a moto q Feb 27 05:06:58 the motoq lags bad Feb 27 05:17:13 Well, no update for me today, gotta hit the bed. See ya everyone! Feb 27 05:41:12 nice.. guitar hero.. Feb 27 05:45:50 i guess the update is out Feb 27 05:46:03 phone has been stuck on checking for a while now Feb 27 06:06:36 anyone awake? Feb 27 06:10:00 do 3d games work on the pixi? Feb 27 06:10:13 not sure Feb 27 06:10:30 hi all Feb 27 06:11:06 howdy JenP Feb 27 06:13:01 rolsworth: no Feb 27 06:13:10 no 3d or flash for now Feb 27 06:13:29 im guessing since the gpu is different, they want to focus on making the pre better first and then adding pixi Feb 27 06:13:43 also, would be different because of screen sizes Feb 27 06:14:09 is 1.4 released? Feb 27 06:14:22 no Feb 27 06:14:31 oh Feb 27 06:14:59 though, some people seem to have gotten it, but it havent rolled out yet Feb 27 06:15:05 if Palm wants to push the pre they need to advertise some of these games Feb 27 06:15:17 once people know this thing can play games they would buy it Feb 27 06:30:44 rolsworth: yeah, that CES thing they did should really have mentioned the games ... ;-) Feb 27 06:31:48 palm is marketing it all wrong Feb 27 06:33:07 What the heck? Feb 27 06:33:12 My phone isn't keeping time anymore. Feb 27 06:33:23 The internal clock is completely out of sync with the rest of the world. Feb 27 06:33:51 quotemstr: get the clock sync app Feb 27 06:33:54 not that many peopel know abotu CES Feb 27 06:34:02 Err, wait.. Feb 27 06:34:24 The clock might have stopped because I kept the clock-setting application open. Feb 27 06:34:33 anyone ehre that can help me out with getting window orientation to work? Feb 27 06:40:32 rolsworth: check out palm.com, front page "advanced 3d games for pre" Feb 27 06:41:06 and hitting apps its 3d games for pre first Feb 27 06:41:18 not many people will visit the web page Feb 27 06:41:22 i guess the problem is that people usually wont know to go to palm.com Feb 27 06:41:23 they need to get it on the tv Feb 27 06:41:23 lol Feb 27 06:41:31 verizon ran that dumb mom add Feb 27 06:41:54 now they have a fairly decent ad and palm started off with a really stupid ad with the pail lady Feb 27 06:42:00 bad marketing Feb 27 06:42:50 test Feb 27 06:42:53 woot.. there we go :) Feb 27 06:43:08 update is out Feb 27 06:43:10 i can again Feb 27 06:43:14 im looking now Feb 27 06:43:17 just got the tweet Feb 27 06:43:18 heh Feb 27 06:43:25 ahh ya there it is Feb 27 06:43:48 so no flash in this update? Feb 27 06:45:02 flash will be provided from adobe Feb 27 06:45:09 it only adds support... from what i read Feb 27 06:45:47 update running really slow Feb 27 06:46:00 typical Feb 27 06:46:08 i wanna update bad Feb 27 06:46:12 but i think ill wait for the doctor Feb 27 06:46:19 Wow, mine started updating automatically. Hope it works. Feb 27 06:46:21 need to wipe this thing anyhow Feb 27 06:48:29 anyone here that can help me out with getting orientation to work? Feb 27 06:48:56 cryptk: what problem are you running into specifically? Feb 27 06:49:07 maybe flash is already in the channel Feb 27 06:49:26 I am wondering where at, and in which assisstant I shoudl put the call to the accelerometer Feb 27 06:50:03 If you want a scene to automatically orient, you can set that when you push the scene. Feb 27 06:50:06 lemme look for the code... Feb 27 06:50:36 rbredow: that is exactly what I want Feb 27 06:51:01 rbredow: I found this page http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1554&Itemid=20 Feb 27 06:51:15 but I am just not quite sure where or how to implement it Feb 27 06:52:05 Yeah...that's not exactly the code you want. Hold a sec... Feb 27 06:54:04 Actually, I think you've got the right page. In the setup function for the scene, just use this line: Feb 27 06:54:09 if (this.controller.stageController.setWindowOrientation) { this.controller.stageController.setWindowOrientation("free"); } Feb 27 06:56:52 beautiful! Feb 27 06:56:54 thanks man Feb 27 06:57:10 now some CSS tweaks and it is all good! Feb 27 06:57:19 Cool. Feb 27 06:57:48 Just tweeted by webosinternals: In an ironic twist of fate, my Pre has no patches on it right now due to the earlier Palm profile reset :) Feb 27 07:19:44 ya'll running 1.4 now? Feb 27 07:21:25 getting closer...rebooting now. Feb 27 07:26:23 rbredow: same ehre Feb 27 07:27:03 so i am running into some CSS issues with the orientation... I have a row in my list that should change width to fill in... I have tried width: auto but it doesn't seem to work... Feb 27 07:27:17 the column then overlaps over the next column... Feb 27 07:31:09 maybe width: 100%; Feb 27 07:33:24 rbredow: nope... Feb 27 07:33:54 here is the corresponding CSS if you wanna take a look http://pastebin.com/Je6udzjk Feb 27 07:37:15 which element isn't scaling properly? Feb 27 07:37:27 #UsMgr_list .palm-row-wrapper .name Feb 27 07:37:28 ? Feb 27 07:38:50 yes Feb 27 07:38:52 the name one Feb 27 07:39:42 I'm just guessing here, but you might try making sure the element above it is also 100%. That would be #UsMgr_list .palm-row-wrapper Feb 27 07:39:44 before I specified exact widths in px for all 3 columns... now I want to have a specified width for state and status but have the name column scale with orientation Feb 27 07:41:00 still overlaps it Feb 27 07:41:46 long entries in the name column overlap over the state column... Feb 27 07:42:25 Oh, I was imagining it was too narrow. Now I understand, it's too wide. Feb 27 07:42:57 By using absolute positioning, you'll need to manually position them for the width view vs. the portrait view. Feb 27 07:43:16 If you can just specify the widths and float them against each other, they could scale automatically. Feb 27 07:43:32 Lemme submit a pass at that (not like I get css right the first time, but it might be a starting point for you to try) Feb 27 07:43:43 cool man Feb 27 07:43:56 if you can get something you think will work and pastebin it up! Feb 27 07:45:57 This might swap your two right hand columns, but maybe it'll get you started: http://pastebin.com/sfDVQpfh Feb 27 07:46:10 You can always swap the markup if this works other than the order. Feb 27 07:49:33 rwhitby: One failed package update. Feb 27 07:50:07 two... Feb 27 07:50:10 forcing feed update. Feb 27 07:53:51 nice Feb 27 07:54:03 the youtube link in the dev portal for the app now does something ;p Feb 27 07:55:27 I like that. Feb 27 07:55:36 i was wondering what it was gonna be used for Feb 27 07:56:12 looking at the changelog.. this line puzzles me Feb 27 07:56:13 If you are playing a game and a phone or calendar notification arrives, the game pauses while the notification is coming up. Feb 27 07:56:25 is there an event we can check for now? Feb 27 08:01:44 rbredow: nope... Feb 27 08:01:55 it makes things wrap to new lines and all kinds of weird stuff... Feb 27 08:02:00 I will play with it some... Feb 27 08:04:41 Hmm, the 4x4 v3 patch was listed as available for update, it failed, and is now gone from the list. Feb 27 08:04:45 1.4: The calendar is a lot faster. Feb 27 08:05:19 won't need enable LED notifications anymore Feb 27 08:05:22 Roy-Pre101: ask about problems like that in #webos-internals Feb 27 08:05:33 we are ready to answer all OTA patch questions in there Feb 27 08:12:43 Just wanted to jump on and say congratulations to the WebOS Internals guys. Everything seems to be working well. This is an awesome, awesome update. Feb 27 08:16:48 jlund: say that in #webos-internals... Feb 27 08:16:56 that is where they all hang out Feb 27 08:17:09 Ah, thanks. I tried it without the hyphen. Feb 27 08:17:24 So I guess in this one I should just say thanks to Palm. I love this phone. Feb 27 08:17:30 haha Feb 27 08:21:20 Phew, my 3 apps work just fine in 1.4 Feb 27 08:33:03 Now we need to wait for SDK updates? Feb 27 08:50:50 heh Feb 27 08:50:59 found a bug in the app catalog Feb 27 08:51:17 if theres no video for the app, it still launches youtube ;p Feb 27 08:55:08 jstop is br0ked Feb 27 09:21:11 Prē Feb 27 12:37:42 Do I still need to do emergency patch recovery before I go from 1.3.5.1 to 1.4? Feb 27 12:44:25 * haeffb_pre running 1.4 Feb 27 12:50:51 bobbob1016: you should follow @webosinternals on twitter - plenty of info over the last 12 hours Feb 27 12:53:41 rwhitby, Better question, how do I know my patches are AUPT? Feb 27 12:55:24 bobbob1016: again, answered in the last 12 hours :-) Feb 27 13:35:14 stupid wlan -_- Feb 27 13:44:04 Is there anybody here who's in a country where they can't recieve money through PayPal? Has anyone from Palm commented, at least off the record, about the payment options for devs being expanded in future? Feb 27 14:03:51 hi Feb 27 14:04:12 hi Feb 27 14:06:11 do you use some javascript orm for local storage Feb 27 14:06:44 orm ? Feb 27 14:08:19 object to relationship map Feb 27 14:08:39 do not need use sql query directly Feb 27 14:09:57 never heard of it. Feb 27 14:10:43 so I guess, no I do not Feb 27 14:11:41 wIRC seems to be having difficulting maintaining a connection under 1.4 Feb 27 14:12:02 now, i use emacs Feb 27 14:12:15 1.4 released ? Feb 27 14:12:27 no problems with wirc Feb 27 14:12:47 yes, it's out in the wild Feb 27 14:17:57 seems to be much faster Feb 27 14:19:38 I was hoping for flash Feb 27 14:21:37 waiting for some really review Feb 27 14:21:44 after that, I will upgrade Feb 27 14:23:02 you will have to upgrade at some point. Feb 27 14:30:30 the phone is much faster. I wonder what they did Feb 27 14:31:42 renegaid: do you already use 1.4? Feb 27 14:32:10 yes Feb 27 14:32:31 renegaid: is it really faster than 1.3.5? Feb 27 14:33:25 yes. I never found the to be slow but it is much faster now Feb 27 14:34:02 cool. i will try later Feb 27 14:34:14 love the new call log layout Feb 27 14:34:57 what about task Feb 27 14:35:11 can it be synced with google? Feb 27 14:35:34 yes Feb 27 14:35:35 it's really stupid task can not sync with outside Feb 27 14:36:35 when you close programs they close right away and clear from memory now Feb 27 14:38:07 my phone feels new and shiny again. Feb 27 14:39:00 rolsworth: i mean "Task(Todo list)" Feb 27 14:39:12 what about it Feb 27 14:39:47 it can be synced in Palm OS 5 Feb 27 14:39:50 with outlook Feb 27 14:40:00 i don't know Feb 27 14:40:06 but now, notes and task can not be sync with any one Feb 27 14:46:33 benluo: you can purchase apps that will sync tasks Feb 27 14:58:37 yes. i know Feb 27 14:58:43 but in the past it's free Feb 27 14:58:45 :P Feb 27 15:53:51 the upload to youtube giving problems Feb 27 16:13:10 man Feb 27 16:13:17 uber noobness on the forums Feb 27 16:16:45 I hate updates... we got the pre-update whining... then the after-update whining.... Feb 27 16:17:07 yeh Feb 27 16:17:20 everything went fine for me except a few patches, i just removed them no biggie Feb 27 16:17:33 oo i guess my pre is booting now Feb 27 16:17:42 hadnt updated yet Feb 27 16:17:45 i hate to say its funny but i think it is Feb 27 16:17:51 one guy lost all his memos Feb 27 16:18:04 is errorDialog() a method of scene controller, stage controller or app controller? Feb 27 16:18:04 and apparently he had info about the tow company that had his car as a memo Feb 27 16:18:12 hahahaha Feb 27 16:18:14 so now he doesnt know anything Feb 27 16:18:24 that suckkkkkkks Feb 27 16:18:29 yeah but his own fault Feb 27 16:18:36 should have emailed it to himself Feb 27 16:18:58 w00t now to wait a few mins for my pre to boot...>.< Feb 27 16:19:13 Tibfib, you'll be glad to know that the youtube link you can set in the dev portal, shows up in the app catalog Feb 27 16:20:18 * haeffb wanders off thru the dev forums to find an answer... Feb 27 16:20:22 oh yeah Feb 27 16:20:28 Check out my app Feb 27 16:20:35 does it show up? Feb 27 16:20:47 mine did Feb 27 16:20:52 sweet Feb 27 16:20:58 yeh Feb 27 16:21:05 it shows it just above the star ratings Feb 27 16:21:07 so glad phone-app got some attention Feb 27 16:21:21 sadly, if there is no video, and you tap that area.. it still launches youtube Feb 27 16:21:27 did you auto rotate the vid for viewing on the pre? Feb 27 16:21:33 your vid Feb 27 16:21:37 no Feb 27 16:21:41 i need to ;p Feb 27 16:21:57 i need to make a new one actually Feb 27 16:22:03 how do you create the video? Feb 27 16:22:17 * flea thinks youtube will be flooded with WebOS device uploads this weekend lol Feb 27 16:22:23 easiest way is screen capture apps and the emulator Feb 27 16:22:30 dangggggg looks like all my homebrew and downloaded apps got deleted Feb 27 16:22:47 tib did you webos doctor? or update? Feb 27 16:22:51 update Feb 27 16:22:54 odd Feb 27 16:23:06 just rotate thru screen captures & add a dialogue? Feb 27 16:23:17 sure Feb 27 16:23:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3cx2MAqGQ Feb 27 16:23:33 i hid my mouse cursor and uses a semi trans overlay Feb 27 16:24:44 i also have that iphone simfinger app, that gives a white bubble for the finger, but vid capture runs slow on mynetbook Feb 27 16:25:11 my back gesture is also inconsistent.... :O gonna reboot again Feb 27 16:25:42 sweet Feb 27 16:27:03 ok, why doesn't this work: Mojo.Controller.errorDialog("Unable to login to Google"); Feb 27 16:27:40 can a list work without attribs? Feb 27 16:28:30 dang that sucks, no apps Feb 27 16:29:45 what the.... and it wont let me redownload any because my hd is full Feb 27 16:30:12 dawm, app-catalog destined? Feb 27 16:30:14 heh AUPT did NOTW work for me Feb 27 16:30:25 Tibfib: karma for laughing at the towed car dude. Feb 27 16:30:30 hah definitely Feb 27 16:30:55 haeffb: multistage app? Feb 27 16:31:10 app-assistant? Feb 27 16:31:12 oh and there it is Feb 27 16:31:24 uh. yeah. Feb 27 16:31:51 multistage breaks errorDialog? Feb 27 16:32:05 dang, just went to dl it and app-catalog froze and now its self-rebooting d'oh :) Feb 27 16:32:45 flea? Feb 27 16:33:04 oh lol Feb 27 16:33:19 Mojo.Controller.errorDialog does not work in multistage applications from the application assistant. Feb 27 16:33:42 although, this isn't from the app assistant. it's called from an external.js source file Feb 27 16:33:42 fastest reboot i've ever seen though... no explanation why it rebooted but no worries Feb 27 16:34:25 flea: luna restart Feb 27 16:34:33 Workaround�Pass a second parameter to errorDialog, this.controller.window , to fix it. Feb 27 16:35:49 How much difference is there in the screen size of emulator and the real phone? Feb 27 16:36:01 fixed Feb 27 16:36:02 var window = Mojo.Controller.getAppController().getActiveStageController().activeScene().window; Feb 27 16:36:02 Mojo.Controller.errorDialog("Unable to login to Google", window); Feb 27 16:36:06 rohit: there isn't Feb 27 16:36:18 it is the same resolution Feb 27 16:36:26 rohit1: depends on the size of your computer monitor... :) Feb 27 16:36:31 haeffb: interesting, didn't know Feb 27 16:37:15 dawm, nice app - though is it supposed to be unlike bj, in that you link 'unlike' icons? Feb 27 16:37:41 will add it to webos101 Feb 27 16:37:45 i kept trying to swipe neighboring like icons and it zipped sounded and wouldnt let me, hint only shows differeing neighboring icons Feb 27 16:37:58 its like BJ just without the bonuses Feb 27 16:39:12 dawm, hmm i only remember bj as the objective to swipe/link 'like' neighboring icons Feb 27 16:39:21 this only accepts differing ones Feb 27 16:39:45 it should only allow swapping of pieces adjacent Feb 27 16:40:05 yes, adjacent... but only allows adjacent icons if they are different. Feb 27 16:40:31 ohhhhh nvm its been to long Feb 27 16:40:45 i'm dumb, great app - i havent played since 755 -- SORRY Feb 27 16:40:50 you gotta make sets of 3 or more alike Feb 27 16:40:53 ;p Feb 27 16:41:05 yea i just forgot how to play, its to 'move' them in place got it :) Feb 27 16:41:19 heh you were really confusing me man Feb 27 16:41:54 i confused myself :) thanks for the app, i neeeeded this - bj on 755 was truly crack for me. i foresee this will be the same Feb 27 16:42:40 im still working on stuff for it such as online leaderboards and bonus pieces, just having a lack of motivation lately Feb 27 16:42:56 awesome, music in the plans? Feb 27 16:43:08 background music? sure why not Feb 27 16:43:18 miss that adrenaline pumping techno lol Feb 27 16:46:49 dawm: online stuff is easy with mySQL :) Feb 27 16:47:01 oh i know, its simple ;p Feb 27 16:47:09 its the display of data im still questioning the best way to do Feb 27 16:48:02 Ah Feb 27 16:48:27 my high score scene has enough buttons as it is with just local scoring ;p Feb 27 16:48:57 oh yeah i saw that Feb 27 16:48:57 haha Feb 27 16:49:34 test Feb 27 16:49:40 it worked Feb 27 16:49:52 been getting a "could not send message" message all morning Feb 27 16:50:03 on wirc? Feb 27 16:50:09 no, mIRC Feb 27 16:50:13 ah Feb 27 16:50:24 has anybody else had problems with prototype's ajax.request since 1.4? Feb 27 16:50:37 my app runs a request at startup, but it's hanging on the device Feb 27 16:50:41 emulator works fine Feb 27 16:50:52 crap Feb 27 16:50:56 no Feb 27 16:50:59 i gotta test my app on 1.4 then Feb 27 16:51:18 I tested an app that uses ajax request with no problem. Feb 27 16:51:20 i can't even get the logs to show up from the device to see where it's hanging Feb 27 16:51:35 http://www.webos101.com/Dialogs Feb 27 16:51:41 emulator shows logs fine, too Feb 27 16:52:26 aniki21: did you use the system-log-level parameter in palm-log? Feb 27 16:52:32 yeah, it's set at 999 Feb 27 16:52:53 palm-log -d usb system-log-level info Feb 27 16:53:40 okay, this doesn't look good Feb 27 16:53:48 "palm-log: application system-log-level not found" Feb 27 16:53:58 i think the log isn't working because it's an old SDK Feb 27 16:54:05 is the 1.4 one out yet? Feb 27 16:54:40 it's out for the preview group Feb 27 16:55:12 i mean public Feb 27 16:55:41 no, i don't think it's public yet Feb 27 16:56:01 ugh. Feb 27 16:56:06 doesn't work for me anymore either Feb 27 16:56:10 log Feb 27 16:56:13 did last night Feb 27 16:56:14