**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 28 02:59:57 2010 Feb 28 03:08:47 So, how's the Flash? I'm mostly an iPhone guy, but the Pre now that it has Flash is even more appealing... Feb 28 03:09:13 doesnt have flash yet, but its ready when adobe is Feb 28 03:09:29 oh, lame :( Feb 28 03:09:31 it has the flash framework implemented on the device Feb 28 03:10:11 i would expect to see the flash plugin in the app catalog in the next couple days, since it needed 1.4 in the first place, im sure they're just waiting on it to get pushed out all over before dropping it in the catalog Feb 28 03:10:54 wouldnt want idiots grabbing the flash download and not having 1.4 to support it and complain about it not working Feb 28 03:11:47 night all Feb 28 03:13:47 i cannot wait for flash Feb 28 03:14:16 rolsworth: hah. we know. You come into the channel every day and ask if it has come yet Feb 28 03:14:36 I'd buy a Pre right away when my horrible BB's contract ends, but, I already know UIKit/iPhone stuff and I'm scared of learning yet another mobile OS development :p Feb 28 03:15:08 The dev mode on the pre should be enable to all carrier or it's a carrier caprice to enable/disable the option? I'm picking up a Bell Pre tomorrow.. Feb 28 03:28:02 all i want flash for is to see if certain web apps work Feb 28 03:28:16 if it doesn't work i don Feb 28 03:28:24 i don't see myself using flash much Feb 28 04:12:14 hmm i can't seem to get my list selector and integer picker to show up at the same time Feb 28 04:20:58 haeffb Feb 28 04:21:13 * haeffb beating my head against asynchronicity once again Feb 28 04:21:18 hi jenp Feb 28 04:21:26 hi...rough night? Feb 28 04:21:40 rewriting all my database stuff. Feb 28 04:21:49 ohhhh...eeek Feb 28 04:21:54 i'm just learning it Feb 28 04:21:58 very slowly Feb 28 04:23:19 no matter what i do i can't get my intpicker and list selector to show up Feb 28 04:23:32 at the same time Feb 28 04:23:38 I've got the database working, but having issues with scene loading before all the database retrieves are done. Feb 28 04:23:59 they're being naughty again? Feb 28 04:24:03 lol Feb 28 04:24:11 yeah this is a new project though Feb 28 04:24:16 was suppose to be simple Feb 28 04:26:27 ugh if i comment one of them the other will show up Feb 28 04:29:19 pastie? I need a break from this stuff Feb 28 04:29:27 kk Feb 28 04:30:25 http://pastebin.com/yBw7FU1j Feb 28 04:32:04 For when flash is released: http://www.shagrat.net/Portfolio/cows.swf Feb 28 04:49:13 what can i use to test bandwidth Feb 28 06:23:52 Howdy Feb 28 06:32:39 Do I need to include images in sources.json to use an image tag? Feb 28 06:32:57 Or what amd I doing wrong with

Feb 28 07:02:39 Any one awake at this fine hour? Feb 28 07:02:59 Verizon users: http://forums.precentral.net/2264054-post85.html Feb 28 07:04:08 Howdy rwhitby Feb 28 07:14:32 hey Feb 28 07:14:35 all Feb 28 07:17:23 All says hi Feb 28 07:18:04 Any one else having issues with their pre crashing trying to push apps to it through eclipse? Feb 28 07:30:23 kesne: What are you doing up at this hour! Feb 28 07:30:40 whoah, been a while! Feb 28 07:30:57 Sorry I flaked on you, did you get your issue resolved? Feb 28 07:31:07 nope, heh Feb 28 07:31:16 released it beta, working around it Feb 28 07:33:06 Kinda irked. Palm broke my game's background Feb 28 07:33:12 It was broke in beta 2. Feb 28 07:33:16 Then beta 3 fixed it. Feb 28 07:33:22 Didn't test with beta 4... Feb 28 07:33:27 But apparently, they broke it again Feb 28 07:33:32 Because release is broken Feb 28 07:35:27 Oh well, it was the excuse I needed to get a beta done Feb 28 07:35:29 err. Feb 28 07:35:31 Another release. Feb 28 07:39:15 Oi! Feb 28 07:39:33 This damned phone crashes every other time I push my app to it =/ Feb 28 07:44:11 oof. Luna crashed on the emulator just now. Feb 28 07:47:25 really? Feb 28 07:47:36 yep Feb 28 07:48:03 Loaded my app to it a few times and was just tossing it away when it went to the flashing palm Feb 28 07:48:31 Roy: sorry about the breakage. 1.4 does include a pretty significant webkit update... Feb 28 07:49:24 It's interesting. A background with center center renders only on half the screen. setting it to top left works fine. I'll post a bug report on the forum Feb 28 07:49:44 bizarre Feb 28 07:54:51 What's the option to prefer emulator to device with novaterm? novaterm -d ?? Feb 28 07:56:15 unplug your device. :-) Feb 28 07:56:23 "last one wins" Feb 28 07:56:35 plug in device, it takes over. unplug, reverts to emulator. Feb 28 07:56:41 Well, that's one way. Feb 28 07:59:17 but yeah, -d works if you don't mind typing (or copy/paste) the uuid Feb 28 07:59:21 (ick) Feb 28 07:59:39 I'd like to see "-d usb" work. :-) Feb 28 08:00:03 like the palm-* sdk command line tools can do Feb 28 08:00:19 Ah.... Yeah, I was trying that. Feb 28 08:00:43 e.g. palm-launch -d usb -l (as noted in palm-launch --help) Feb 28 09:02:48 This new update is buggy as hell =/ Feb 28 09:10:39 is there a way to cause com.palm.phone to reload on a setting change? Feb 28 09:17:51 I updated to 1.4 but now there is a weird confusion on webos on the pre with the sound. When I touch it, it shows the ringer and music sound volume bars and they switch back and forth Feb 28 09:18:04 how can I solve this? Feb 28 09:32:11 webos doctor Feb 28 12:46:40 did 1.4 break palm-log? Feb 28 12:47:02 all i'm getting is null when i try to log stuff Feb 28 13:02:58 everyone here who has problems with updating to webos 1.4? Feb 28 13:03:08 I did the update via webos-updater yesterday Feb 28 13:03:14 it fails Feb 28 13:03:29 today I tried to reset with the most recent version of webos-doctor Feb 28 13:03:31 it fails to Feb 28 13:04:10 it dies when it tries to upload the nv items to the modem Feb 28 13:08:13 hi all Feb 28 13:08:56 my update went fine, except palm-log broke now Feb 28 13:10:46 1.4 is out in us? Feb 28 13:11:18 Chais_z3r0: you might want to take a look at precentral.net ... Feb 28 13:14:14 then it can't be long until it'll arrive in germany Feb 28 13:17:27 it already is ^^ Feb 28 13:17:56 Chais_z3r0: I have an unlocked German Pre that I'm using in Australia, and I got 1.4 on it about 36 hours ago. Feb 28 13:18:06 Even the webOS Doctor for 1.4 WR is available. Feb 28 13:19:54 * Chais_z3r0 is uninstalling patches and themes and updating Feb 28 13:21:44 ChanServ: it's already out in Germany Feb 28 13:21:59 I have it since yesterday and today my other Pre asked me about updating Feb 28 13:28:48 phew server's busy oO Feb 28 13:34:05 hm damn it Feb 28 14:00:43 hi all Feb 28 14:00:51 hey JenP Feb 28 14:00:54 hi JenP Feb 28 14:01:01 hi world Feb 28 14:01:01 hey rod, haeffb! Feb 28 14:01:03 lol Feb 28 14:01:08 how are you all doing? Feb 28 14:01:39 just got my morning coffee Feb 28 14:01:46 smiles...me too Feb 28 14:02:05 JenP: did you know that in the last 36 hours, 160,000 unique IP addresses have accessed the feeds on ipkg.preware.org using Preware, 16,500 using WebOS Quick Install, and 20,000 have downloaded at least one Patch ? Feb 28 14:02:21 no i did not know that, but that's awesome! Feb 28 14:02:44 I have no way of knowing how many unique IPs match to each person of course. Feb 28 14:02:54 yeah but still! Feb 28 14:04:31 So 1 in 8 homebrew users are also patchers. Feb 28 14:04:52 * haeffb not a patcher. Feb 28 14:05:36 * jamesog is looking like he'll have to doctor his Pre back to 1.3.5.2 :( Feb 28 14:09:00 i haven't updated yet...anyone having troubles with it? Feb 28 14:09:45 I'm using a RSC and it won't pick up the network now... Feb 28 14:09:54 It worked at first, on roaming, but now just says SOS Only Feb 28 14:11:27 JenP: Preware and AUPT are working smooth as silk for a lot of people. Of course there are many people who are having problems for a variety of reasons: outside influences like MyTether, CPU mods, manual patches, etc; server overload during the critical 6 hours (fixed now); not updating Preware before doing the OTA; not updating feeds after the OTA; ... etc. Feb 28 14:12:02 no troubles here. knock on wood Feb 28 14:12:38 cool...i've been putting it off...don't want to root phone again Feb 28 14:13:44 i never did get the soft KB working again after the last update Feb 28 14:13:54 morning bmyers Feb 28 14:14:08 morn'n Jenp Feb 28 14:14:49 morn'n haeffb Feb 28 14:14:50 JenP: there's a poll thread on AUPT: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/poll-2038-a.html Feb 28 14:15:03 thanks rod Feb 28 14:15:29 JenP: note that the poll is worded hard - if there is any reason why it didn't go smoothly (including reasons outside of our control) then we ask people to vote no. Feb 28 14:15:53 i see that Feb 28 14:16:07 It's a poll on the overall end-user experience of patch updates, not a poll on just the AUPT technology itself. Feb 28 14:17:03 should i remove my patches b4 updaating? Feb 28 14:18:44 Bmyers: that's a personal choice. Read the thread above and make your own judgement. Feb 28 15:08:07 question for the knowledgeable! Feb 28 15:08:12 are German webOS phones unlocked? Feb 28 15:08:29 'cuz I'm a few hundred KM south of that nation and I might be interested. Feb 28 15:36:50 millenomi: yes Feb 28 15:36:58 unlocked and unbranded Feb 28 15:37:15 I've got a (good) site pegging one at €400 Feb 28 15:37:16 just plain GSM Feb 28 15:37:22 worth it? Feb 28 15:37:27 400? might be cheaper Feb 28 15:37:37 rly? eBay? Feb 28 15:38:29 in fact it's €480, but I get to eschew VAT as I'm a EU business. Feb 28 15:38:51 but of course the cheaper the better :) Feb 28 15:39:26 amazon is cheaper, O2online too Feb 28 15:40:35 http://www.google.de/products?hl=de&source=hp&q=palm+pre+kaufen&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=Zo6KS87bOdWfsQaFkNXfBQ&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQrQQwAA Feb 28 15:40:49 thanks :D Feb 28 15:43:48 I really don't get why Palm wouldn't offer unlocked phones themselves Feb 28 15:44:00 without a carrier in the middle, in addition to carrier'd ones. Feb 28 15:46:43 So tell me, what can't you do this

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Feb 28 15:48:09 BoomerET: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#h-7.5.4 Feb 28 15:48:19 Thanks! Feb 28 15:49:28 uuuh, amazon.de has one at €330 Feb 28 15:49:30 nice :D Feb 28 15:49:52 no flash in webos 1.4? Feb 28 15:50:04 Not yet Feb 28 15:50:09 :( Feb 28 15:50:15 i so hoped Feb 28 15:50:48 Well, that doesn't make sense, No, 1.4 does not have flash. By saying not yet, would mean that 1.4 could have it in the future, and that's just plain wrong. My apologies Feb 28 15:51:05 It does have a nice video recorder. Feb 28 15:51:25 and flash now shows up as a question mark, instead of just showing nothing. Feb 28 15:51:35 oh, frag. no shipping to Italy. way to go, Amazon :( Feb 28 15:53:10 BoomerET: but wasn't 1.4 planned to have flash? Feb 28 15:53:36 i thought palm showed 1.4 on some fair with flash Feb 28 15:53:38 I thought so, I was bummed just a tiny bit. Feb 28 15:54:09 also like "haahaa, iPhone users" Feb 28 15:59:21 Apparently, Flash is on the way. The capability is there and it should be released within the next month or so Feb 28 15:59:47 How about the updated SDK? Feb 28 15:59:55 I heard within the next week? Feb 28 16:01:34 I'm not so sure about the updated SDK. Haven't seen much about it to be honest Feb 28 16:03:57 When I try to connect to my wireless network now, I get 'Association Failed', wth? Feb 28 16:13:22 Ok, I want to change the settings for a network, it says to tap the network name, when I do that, it just tries to connect. Feb 28 16:13:33 I've looked up the help, oh woe is me. Feb 28 16:16:24 Oh, now it says you need to be connected to customize the settings, that's absurd. Feb 28 17:01:29 hi all Feb 28 17:31:40 Hi everyone Feb 28 17:31:53 hi NuttyBunny Feb 28 17:32:34 Has anyone here tried to run webos 1.4 on a Telcel GSM phone? (we haven't received the update yet, but I'm playing with webosdoctor) :) Feb 28 17:33:17 sorry don't know Feb 28 17:35:48 Ok, thanks :( I already got it running, but the app catalog doesn't work :'( Feb 28 17:40:44 oh no that sucks Feb 28 18:02:27 Yeah, it sucks... I stuck the webos.tar file from the gsm webosdoctor inside a 1.3.5.1 telcel file, then ran meta doctor to repack it, it worked, but no app cat. Now I'm trying sticking both webos.tar and wr.tar into my telcel 1.3.5.1 file. Flashing now :) Feb 28 18:02:49 good luck Feb 28 18:13:52 Thanks :) Flashed correctly, now booting Feb 28 18:23:19 anyone around that is doing advertising? I am trying to decide who to go with was curious about experiences Feb 28 18:34:41 digitalpowers: I do advertising. Feb 28 18:35:23 reality9110: who do you use? Feb 28 18:35:38 Lots of different advertiseres Feb 28 18:36:06 any particular reason you use more than one or even better, do you have a favorite? Feb 28 18:36:33 Fill rates. In order to get them 100% filled, I need a lot. Feb 28 18:38:21 i see so individual advertising agencies are not providing you with enough ads so you have to hit up multiple companies to fill the usage you have (reidterating what i thought you said to make sure i understand) Feb 28 18:38:46 Depends on how popular your app is really. Feb 28 18:39:00 If you've got 100 users, one will do just fine. Feb 28 18:39:11 If you've got 100,000+ users, then you're going to need a lot. Feb 28 18:39:29 ok well i will start with one and get more if needed, is admob a decent jumping off place you think? Feb 28 18:39:38 Admob is horrible. Feb 28 18:39:48 excelent glad i asked Feb 28 18:40:02 who would you suggest as a first advertising agency then? Feb 28 18:40:23 Go with Smaato ad aggregator. They'll pull from other companies and aggregate them for you. It'll be all CPC for small apps, but if you've got a hot one, then you'll get CPM. Feb 28 18:41:11 oh sweet Feb 28 18:41:18 that is exactly the sort of thing i need Feb 28 18:41:58 You need a high face time app though. Just be aware of that. Feb 28 18:43:04 yeah that makes since, my app would be if it becomes successful, a gps based game that one would want to run quite often in order to comepete Feb 28 18:43:26 It's more length of session than anything. Feb 28 18:43:59 kk good to know Feb 28 18:44:58 in consideration of that, how often should you rotate ads? if for instance a user is using the app for an hour how many different ads would i want to show? Feb 28 18:45:01 We're averaging about 50 minutes per session and have over 100,000 users, so, that means a lot of ads served. Feb 28 18:45:41 We're rotating every 45 seconds. Feb 28 18:45:55 kk thanks for the tips Feb 28 18:46:19 And just be aware, for the CPC market, you only get paid when somebody clicks on the ad Feb 28 18:46:32 So factor that in when you're calculating money you want to earn Feb 28 18:48:14 ok makes since, dont rotate the ad off to fast you want them to see and hopefully click it Feb 28 18:48:42 which app type did you choose on smaato they dont have webos listed just iphone, android, ect Feb 28 18:48:43 Exactly. If you get a hot app, however, you can get a premium deal where ads are CPM in which case, you just need to show them. Feb 28 18:48:49 Android Feb 28 19:02:49 I bought scrabble on my pre n now I'm getting the wife a pre. I don't play scrabble at all. is there a way I can get itoff my pre and giveit to her Feb 28 19:03:27 It's like $10 max...just buy the darn thing Feb 28 19:04:12 it's a waste Feb 28 19:04:23 I don't want it Feb 28 19:04:44 So is the Nordic track sitting in the corner... Feb 28 19:04:57 lol Feb 28 19:05:39 renegaid: unforunately the app catalog doesnt support any sort of transfering of purchases from one palm account to another Feb 28 19:06:37 I figured. Feb 28 19:12:09 reality9110: another question for you, i assume i am just going to be using the soma api to integrate manually but i figured i should check first and see if one of the prebuilt integration mechanisms works Feb 28 19:12:54 Nothing prebuilt. You have to do it from scratch Feb 28 19:12:57 g'evening Feb 28 19:13:43 i figured, any tips on where you go the IP from? I havent seen an API that exposes that Feb 28 19:13:57 It's exposed. Feb 28 19:14:04 kk Feb 28 19:46:21 Does any one use the drag event in their application? Feb 28 19:47:09 not yet Feb 28 19:47:19 Hmm ok Feb 28 19:47:28 I'm having strange issues with it on 1.4 Feb 28 19:47:38 Seems it only triggers if you drag left or right not up and down Feb 28 19:59:29 Is anyone else really annoyed that the new vibration alert is now the same very short vibration as E-mail? Feb 28 20:05:21 I feel stupid... I neglected to disable the scroller on the page Feb 28 20:25:34 kk byes Feb 28 20:25:56 lol sorry wrong window Feb 28 20:59:44 is there documentation for how to associate an application to be launched for specific file extensions? Feb 28 21:00:07 daveisadork: not currently available Feb 28 21:00:12 bummer Feb 28 21:00:20 but check out the app menu when in the launcher Feb 28 21:00:38 under "Default Applications" Feb 28 21:00:59 So it's coming Feb 28 21:01:05 i mean for my app, i want to register a new file type Feb 28 21:01:24 I don't think you can but don't take my word for it Feb 28 21:04:47 well, i see documentation for creating a handleLaunch method that can handle calls from other applications through an application manager request Feb 28 21:04:48 hmm Feb 28 21:19:47 someone told me once before but i cant find it again, how do i check if my app is being run on the emulator or on a device? Feb 28 21:20:28 probably Mojo.Environment.DeviceInfo.modelNameAscii Feb 28 21:20:44 which should return pre/pixi or device Feb 28 21:21:16 swisstomcat: sweet thanks, interesting note, that is not listed on the developer webpage as being a part of DeviceInfo Feb 28 21:21:41 yeah, it's on a page on webos101 i think Feb 28 21:23:56 heh Feb 28 21:24:02 me real name is MarkusL too :) Feb 28 21:24:09 my Feb 28 21:26:02 hi Feb 28 21:27:22 swisstomcat: i'm not a overly imagniative kind of person. Feb 28 21:27:25 ;-) Feb 28 21:29:40 anyway, i somehow managed to switch my pre off *while* installing an app. now i'm stuck with a half installed app. i can click on install in the app catalog, it seems to reinstall it, giving a notification "app installed..." BUT app catalog keeps saying "installing..." and the link in app launcher keeps opening app cagalog. Feb 28 21:30:27 hmm Feb 28 21:30:57 hmm. some time after doing that nova usually restarts. Feb 28 21:31:32 you already restarted? Feb 28 21:31:36 mmh, that's new. now the app disappeared from app launcher after a nova restart. reinstalling right now. Feb 28 21:31:37 yep Feb 28 21:32:12 it's essential to me that this app is working. Feb 28 21:32:16 just kidding, it's monopoly. Feb 28 21:33:17 mmh. same result. app catalog keeps saying "Installieren...". Feb 28 21:36:42 ea monopoly? Feb 28 21:36:57 which app? Feb 28 21:37:06 yes, ea monopoly. Feb 28 21:37:16 i can't even download that Feb 28 21:38:10 monopoly takes quite a time to download Feb 28 21:38:23 NFS is really worth it, nicely done Feb 28 21:38:36 The Sims doesn't start yet, not enough memory... Feb 28 21:39:05 btw. Duke3D is in the unreleased branch of preware now :) Feb 28 21:39:20 will make another video tonight Feb 28 21:39:20 hallo metaview Feb 28 21:39:26 hi swisstomcat :) Feb 28 21:39:33 yeah, NFS is pretty cool Feb 28 21:39:43 i can't even download monopoly ;( Feb 28 21:39:52 I have now added a animal card set in my memory app, sry Feb 28 21:40:07 and a toy cars set Feb 28 21:40:07 oh no :) Feb 28 21:40:15 match this? Feb 28 21:40:15 oh yes Feb 28 21:40:18 yes Feb 28 21:40:20 pro Feb 28 21:41:06 I really need to boost it, it's kind of pathetic Feb 28 21:41:22 just try the video ftr Feb 28 21:41:48 got screenshots of the new sets? Feb 28 21:43:23 soon Feb 28 21:44:00 where did you get the pics from? Feb 28 21:44:41 For the animals: I searched for public domain pics in wikipedia, the toy cars are the cars of my son :D Feb 28 21:47:25 oh no, NFS just crashed on me Feb 28 21:50:39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuK9jVAmCxg :) Feb 28 21:51:16 this video is not processed yet Feb 28 21:51:30 ah right Feb 28 21:51:54 yeah, video demo is great idea Feb 28 21:52:01 yes Feb 28 21:52:35 hey MetaView! Feb 28 21:52:53 hi Xuzz Feb 28 21:53:04 I know you likely have no idea who I am, but your LJP work was awesome :). Feb 28 21:53:15 ah, great :) Feb 28 21:53:19 thx Feb 28 21:54:09 http://www.openexpo.ch/index.php?id=339 (scroll to the bottom) Feb 28 21:54:46 cool stuff, enjoy (it's too far for me) Feb 28 21:55:34 i hope some people will show up Feb 28 22:05:04 why does this not work... Feb 28 22:05:05 var sqlUpdateMileageEventsWithCategory = "UPDATE 'mileageEvents' " + Feb 28 22:05:05 "SET category=1 WHERE category=?; GO;"; Feb 28 22:06:36 hey haeffb Feb 28 22:06:42 what error do you get? Feb 28 22:06:45 hey swisstom Feb 28 22:06:48 no error. Feb 28 22:06:54 just not updating the db Feb 28 22:07:32 does the table name have to be enclosed in ' and '? Feb 28 22:07:50 probably doesn't have to be, but that has worked in the past. Feb 28 22:07:57 and in other SQL queries Feb 28 22:09:41 btw. what is this GO; for? Feb 28 22:10:50 According to Frank Zammetti's book, SQLite queries sometimes don't work without it... I dunno. Feb 28 22:11:00 yeah, i've seen some that work without it Feb 28 22:11:15 have your tried try/catching the actual transaction? Feb 28 22:11:54 I get the onSuccess handler Feb 28 22:12:49 here's the db function: http://www.pastie.org/847267 Feb 28 22:14:00 does it tell how many rows where affected/changed Feb 28 22:14:02 ? Feb 28 22:14:14 results.rows.length = 0 Feb 28 22:14:22 n8 Feb 28 22:14:26 no rows were updated Feb 28 22:14:27 night Feb 28 22:14:58 Results: {"length": 0} Feb 28 22:14:59 how is the table defined? Feb 28 22:16:05 http://www.pastie.org/847275 Feb 28 22:16:24 I have also tried SET category='1' Feb 28 22:18:39 have you tried to do a fixed update e.g write UPDATE 'mileageEvents' SET category=1 WHERE category=1; GO;? Feb 28 22:19:18 haeffb. hm, looks correct, i have no clue Feb 28 22:19:53 reminds me at my day-work, we had stuff like this some days ago: it was a serious bug in mySQL 5.1.22 Feb 28 22:23:26 Duke3D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg7Ao2pUvlM Feb 28 22:24:16 can't see much :( Feb 28 22:24:45 hm Feb 28 22:25:28 aha. found a difference between this an my previous code that worked... Feb 28 22:25:41 which one? Feb 28 22:27:08 sql = "UPDATE 'mileageEvents' SET category=? WHERE id=?"; Feb 28 22:27:30 where I was using the id of the event rather than the category Feb 28 22:28:06 but should the SET category=1 WHERE category=5, for instance, work? Feb 28 22:29:36 I would think so, but maybe it's a sqlite limitation... Feb 28 22:29:36 i think it should Feb 28 22:31:36 Bmyers: ping Feb 28 22:31:46 where's my database stored on emu? Feb 28 22:34:18 found it. Feb 28 22:36:11 UPDATE mileageEvents SET category='1' WHERE category='5' Feb 28 22:36:18 works in sqlite directly Feb 28 22:39:23 so, this is stupid. If I load up SQLite3 in putty and manipulate the db directly it works. From my code, not so much. Feb 28 22:48:56 quick question, i am using startTracking for my gps stuff in my game, but i dont see a stop tracking, am i missing something or is it just smart enough to stop tracking when the app closes and or is deactivated Feb 28 23:10:28 Has anyone figured out how the LED blink for notifications is supposed to work? When should there be one slow blink, and when should there be two rapid blinks? Feb 28 23:16:46 anyone here? Feb 28 23:18:10 hello? Feb 28 23:18:21 hello Feb 28 23:18:27 helo Feb 28 23:18:29 hello Feb 28 23:18:31 question time Feb 28 23:19:39 time? Feb 28 23:19:50 still not happening. exact same query string in SQLite 3 in putty works. Doesn't work in code. Feb 28 23:20:34 I am pushing a scene when a div is touched, then I hit the back gesture, and tap the div again and the result it that it will push the scene, and if I hit the back gesture, it will pop and push the same scene, then I have to hit the back gesture and it will pop back to the main scene. Then if I push the scene i will have to hit the back gesture three times to get back to the main scene, etc. Feb 28 23:22:18 so the nth time I tap the div, to push a new scene, I will have to swipe the back gesture n times in order to get back to the main scene Feb 28 23:23:20 which is not the expected feedback Feb 28 23:23:25 any suggestions? Feb 28 23:24:09 what is the expected feedback? Feb 28 23:24:44 that I tap the div, the next scene is pushed, and the back gesture pops it back to the original scene Feb 28 23:29:22 woot, i am about to hit the submit button on my app for the beta feed Feb 28 23:29:41 any suggestion? Feb 28 23:30:02 that's great digitalpowers Feb 28 23:30:14 thx Feb 28 23:35:55 Anyone up for helping a programmer encountering a weird problem? Feb 28 23:41:10 crud. Looks like it is due to a data type mismatch. Feb 28 23:41:35 data types in sqlite are a pita. Feb 28 23:48:50 anybody here work on LunaSysMgr? Feb 28 23:49:13 I have a log of an unaligned read segfault of LunaSysMgr on screen wakup / app install Feb 28 23:51:11 haeffb: you should try C programming, the data type is your friend..none of this loosey goosey JS Feb 28 23:52:16 haeffb: you have experience with GPS simulation? Feb 28 23:52:17 for anyone interested: https://pastee.org/qsbaa Feb 28 23:52:31 output of /var/log/lunasysmgr.log after the luna crash Feb 28 23:52:53 azakus: is it repeatable? Feb 28 23:52:55 the tl;dr is address 0x1530173e is NOT aligned Feb 28 23:52:57 yes Feb 28 23:53:06 on app install while the app in question is running Feb 28 23:53:29 so a palm-install on top of a running app seems to do it every time Feb 28 23:53:39 ahh interesting Feb 28 23:55:26 1.4? Feb 28 23:56:19 jfelectron: actually, it seems to happen more regularly if the app is open, the screen turns off, THEN you palm-install Feb 28 23:56:31 then the crash occurs a second or two after screen wakeup Feb 28 23:56:35 azakus: is it a specific app? Feb 28 23:56:58 I Feb 28 23:57:00 I'll check Feb 28 23:59:29 i just tested that with an app i'm testing and it hasn't happened here Feb 28 23:59:50 had the app running, waited for the screen to turn off then did a palm-install and turned the screen back on, no crash yet Mar 01 00:00:14