**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 02 02:59:58 2010 Mar 02 03:02:40 question: does anyone know how to access data on the clipboard? Mar 02 03:07:01 Bmyers: hmmm...that didn't fix it :/ Mar 02 03:07:08 good! Mar 02 03:07:23 i dont use that and just sent something to the app cat Mar 02 03:07:35 would've hated to find out it was gonna break Mar 02 03:09:23 well it fixed the inclusion but now I have this other wierd error I have a line with as a case in a switch case statement function(){}; and its saying 'unexpected token (' ? Mar 02 03:09:52 jslint? Mar 02 03:10:22 nope when I try to push the scene it fails Mar 02 03:10:44 whatev...I'll just remove them Mar 02 03:10:49 guess V8 is more strict Mar 02 03:11:56 not sure why an empty function would be a problem Mar 02 03:12:57 shouldn't be Mar 02 03:14:25 this, btw, is awesome: FIXED: creating package from Eclipse sometimes fails due to file in use (Windows only) Mar 02 03:14:33 yeah not as far as I know...but whatever....didn't really need it, was just a stub for unimplemented something something Mar 02 03:14:58 oops. Now I've got 4 options when I launch the emu Mar 02 03:15:48 toDataURI still not supported in canvas....meh no easy photo caching on device yet again Mar 02 03:16:02 this is cool: To specify values for substitution, add a templateModel property to the sceneArguments object passed to pushScene() Mar 02 03:16:32 haeffb: Myles is a featured app in the app cat? Mar 02 03:16:36 this not cool: To limit the impact of app performance issues on on overall device responsiveness, long-running JavaScript routines (10 seconds or longer) will time out in webOS 1.4. Mar 02 03:16:43 Yes, not sure why/when Mar 02 03:16:51 sweet Mar 02 03:16:53 JenP told me. Nobody from Palm... Mar 02 03:17:01 congrats Mar 02 03:17:06 haeffb: didn't you already have timeout issues? Mar 02 03:17:40 haeffb: don't ask why...just bask in that Mar 02 03:18:12 yes, I did Mar 02 03:18:25 I think Mar 02 03:18:56 I'd have rather they waited until I thought the app was ready. But, it did give a bump in DL's Mar 02 03:19:21 who was looking for this: Mojo.appPath property Mar 02 03:19:30 I was! Mar 02 03:19:50 though I already had the full thing in every scene....so replaced 'em all though Mar 02 03:19:58 haeffb: who do you have to contact to get app featured? Mar 02 03:20:23 nobody, apparently. It just happened. Mar 02 03:20:37 i think you just have to write the name of your app and your developer login Mar 02 03:20:49 on the back of a crisp $100 bill and send it to Mar 02 03:20:51 kmudrick, you can contact a handler, but you gotta write a proposal sorta crap Mar 02 03:20:55 lemme find my email about it Mar 02 03:21:21 that sucks, those of us who started in 2010 are handler-less Mar 02 03:21:36 http://pastie.org/849239 Mar 02 03:21:57 im sure you can send it to the general developer contact email Mar 02 03:22:11 pdn@palm.com or something Mar 02 03:22:21 phew...everything else *seems* to work...was worried for a second there Mar 02 03:22:30 the pastie link i just posted is what my handler told me to do Mar 02 03:24:16 thanks Mar 02 03:27:23 so the escapes fixed it or no? Mar 02 03:31:46 has anyone here gotten an ImageBucket API key? I've filled out the form and the page says one has been sent but it seems to disappear in the abyss... Mar 02 03:32:41 I mean ImageShack Mar 02 03:34:03 never tried Mar 02 03:35:35 SDK 1.4 appears to be working w/o uninstall Mar 02 03:36:13 been watching "the Bachelor" Mar 02 03:36:30 because they were in St. Lucia where we spent a week last January. Mar 02 03:37:26 oh, and my paths are not escaped in sources.json Mar 02 03:38:32 OU-UT tied Mar 02 03:38:35 not that anyone cares Mar 02 03:41:15 ooh...nice, seems location services have received a little speed bump Mar 02 03:44:31 haeffb: mine are not either Mar 02 03:47:37 my peeps are pushing up the rating on Myles. Mar 02 03:47:47 PreCentral is a good thing. Mar 02 03:48:16 yeah. featured app is gonna break when u update to 1.4? Mar 02 03:48:35 eh? Mar 02 03:50:50 is there an issue with 1.4 and your sources.json? Mar 02 03:51:59 nope Mar 02 03:52:22 they don't need to be escaped Mar 02 03:53:26 my export code appears to be broken, though Mar 02 04:03:22 haeffb; is it still broken? Mar 02 04:10:35 still? something with my alarm/timer is messed up Mar 02 04:29:48 Is anyone here willing to add a link to pre101 on their web site? I'll be happy to link back. Mar 02 04:47:43 OK, don't everyone jump at once, I can't keep up... Mar 02 04:49:29 hi all Mar 02 04:51:09 Roy-Pre101: i'd link, but i don't get traffic on my site Mar 02 04:51:30 i bet digitalpowers would be willing to put one up on officewarfare, but the site content isn't really related Mar 02 04:52:09 that's OK. Mar 02 04:52:11 http://officewarfare.net/ Mar 02 04:52:33 who needs a link to where? Mar 02 04:52:56 oi, gimme the sourccccccccccce! Mar 02 04:53:18 working on it manard, trying to figure out svn with komodo Mar 02 04:54:11 Link to pre101.com. I'm thinking Palm Pre and Palm Pixi news and help Mar 02 04:54:14 gotcha Mar 02 04:54:22 you think? Mar 02 04:54:42 Hmm... Mar 02 04:54:45 Articles and software about and for waring with your co-workers Mar 02 04:54:51 Shouldn't that be 'warring' ? Mar 02 04:55:18 ya, he doesn't like consult me on his design decisions :) Mar 02 04:55:58 oh, i got pre101 confused with webos101 Mar 02 04:56:08 das vviki Mar 02 04:56:29 If you want to link to webos101.com that'd be fine, too. Mar 02 04:57:03 webOS app development resources? something like that. Mar 02 04:57:57 I'm not making any money off webOS 101 so I'm not focusing on SEO on it yet. (Of course, I'm not making any money off pre101.com either... But maybe someday... :P Mar 02 04:58:21 heh Mar 02 04:58:48 yeah i cant spell ... i program :D Mar 02 04:58:52 i added a link though Mar 02 05:01:43 Thanks. Do you want a back-link? If so, any anchor text you want? Mar 02 05:04:05 yeah a back link would be nice, but i have no particular anchor text i use :S probably should but i am not particularly good at that sort of thing Mar 02 05:04:15 maik: what anchor text should i use for owar? Mar 02 05:04:44 anchor text? Mar 02 05:04:55 like page.html#foo ? Mar 02 05:05:06 no like, what should the link say Mar 02 05:05:40 umm Mar 02 05:05:41 Pre 101 Mar 02 05:06:06 no no for office warfare. i already linked to pre101 using the anchor text Roy-Pre101 asked for Mar 02 05:06:33 you wonder why i dont consult you on these things, takes to long to explain :P Mar 02 05:06:44 haha Mar 02 05:08:01 i don't know what the hell you're talking about Mar 02 05:08:10 title what you're linking to Mar 02 05:08:11 haeffb: Good updates on webos101.com Also, codeslaw_out and others. Mar 02 05:08:18 Office Warfare, bitches. Mar 02 05:08:23 hehe Mar 02 05:08:36 Roy-Pre101: ya i have some more i need to put it Mar 02 05:08:43 but i am terrible at wiki style Mar 02 05:08:50 put in* Mar 02 05:09:29 S'alright. Someone else can always clean it up. Just getting the info there is the hard part. Mar 02 05:10:21 roy, it's my pleasure. Mar 02 05:12:51 digitalpowers: Updated my resources page, hope that's fine Mar 02 05:12:59 http://pre101.com/blog/resources/ Mar 02 05:13:49 that works for me :) Mar 02 05:14:44 "The recent earthquake in Chile shifted the planet's axis by about 8 cm and shortened days by 1.26 microseconds" Mar 02 05:14:52 ya saw that on reddit Mar 02 05:15:00 holy shit Mar 02 05:15:16 damn, i am going to leave work early tomorrow, not taking that time out of my free time Mar 02 05:15:28 haha Mar 02 05:15:40 anyone know how to grab a touch event for the gesture area? Mar 02 05:15:48 brb rebooting Mar 02 05:16:27 codeslaw_out: That's an excellent question and I don't know the answer. Mar 02 05:16:38 i think i saw it mentioned on the forums, i'll check Mar 02 05:17:53 Roy-Pre101: mind changing it for us? Mar 02 05:17:54 For some office fun, check out this site. Rearrange your coworkers' icons, hide windows you don't want other people to see, and more! Mar 02 05:18:25 hm, mind change that first link to Office Warefare Mar 02 05:18:33 s/mind/might/ Mar 02 05:19:24 Sheesh, give a guy an inch... Mar 02 05:19:25 :D Mar 02 05:19:27 lol Mar 02 05:19:38 that does read better. Mar 02 05:19:39 he asked, i gave. doesn't affect me at all Mar 02 05:21:06 done. Mar 02 05:21:20 thanks man Mar 02 05:24:26 Roy-Pre101: you've got some relative links in your first resource line under Other Sites of Interest Mar 02 05:25:36 Ugh, I see one. Was that it? Mar 02 05:25:43 two Mar 02 05:25:59 Well, that can't have helped. Mar 02 05:26:03 http://pre101.com/blog/resources/www.data-net.com/products Mar 02 05:26:12 ya, those two :) Mar 02 05:26:30 I need to update that page anyhow. webOS App Review site turned out to be a dud. Mar 02 05:27:45 ah, such is life Mar 02 05:28:13 i know i'm never going to come up with a successful unique idea, so i stopped trying :) Mar 02 05:28:30 actually i had one really unique idea the other day, but i think it's a bit too unique Mar 02 05:28:35 the world just doesn't understand me Mar 02 05:28:49 digitalpowers: YA OK COME ON NOW GIMME THE SOURCCCCCCCCCCCE Mar 02 05:29:31 i am trying! Mar 02 05:29:42 the freaking komodo svn instructions are like Mar 02 05:29:48 1. open preferences Mar 02 05:29:50 2. ???? Mar 02 05:29:53 3. profit Mar 02 05:30:15 haha Mar 02 05:33:01 svn problems? Mar 02 05:34:28 haha, i almost crapped my pants Mar 02 05:34:40 i ordered a new computer for a client and just got the shipping notification Mar 02 05:34:48 Product Description: Mar 02 05:34:48 Base,Bon Jovi Mini Tower Optiplex,960 Mar 02 05:34:56 lol Mar 02 05:35:04 nothing screams professional like a bon jovi mini tower! Mar 02 05:35:10 ggrr, can't get forward gestures, or gesture area taps Mar 02 05:35:29 fortunately a) they'd probably dig it and b) it sounds like dell named a line of their eco friendly cases after rock bands Mar 02 05:35:32 nothing to do with the styling Mar 02 05:40:52 codeslaw_out: Forward gestures are broken with webos 1.4 Mar 02 05:41:12 ya i know, i was gonna put up a temp fix with the gesture area tap Mar 02 05:41:16 but that's not working either Mar 02 05:41:52 Is there an event for it (that's supposed to work?) Mar 02 05:42:43 allegedly a keybaord event Mar 02 05:42:55 but i got nothing firing Mar 02 05:43:22 something has to happen, its what they use with copy/paste Mar 02 05:58:04 what's the term for taking multiple shots on a camera in quick succession ? Mar 02 06:00:50 bracketing Mar 02 06:01:29 though that typically implies you are varying exposure time, or iso, or some other parameter with each shot Mar 02 06:02:47 rwhitby: video Mar 02 06:02:49 :D Mar 02 06:04:09 continuous shooting mode. webOS camera has it. Mar 02 06:04:17 hold down the spacebar Mar 02 06:04:39 I think it called "Burst" in my Canon camera Mar 02 06:04:59 Burst and Continuous are different Mar 02 06:05:04 http://www.jakeludington.com/photography/20060530_continuous_mode_and_burst_mode_photography.html Mar 02 06:05:06 So, is anyone else having the fun problem of the phone not ringing and not saying anything about missed calls? Mar 02 06:07:31 nite all Mar 02 06:10:25 burst mode _sounds_ like the proper term Mar 02 06:10:32 plus it's shorter Mar 02 06:11:37 ahh... continuous is virtually unlimited Mar 02 06:11:44 that's like freeze frame or something Mar 02 06:12:01 is what you're referring to, rwhitby Mar 02 06:12:47 burst is usually limited to a max number of shots (and then it stores the data afterwards). continuous is continuous - you keep shooting till your flash card fills. Mar 02 06:13:01 continuous is almost stop mostion videos Mar 02 06:13:13 *motion Mar 02 06:13:28 yea, freeze frame / stop motion Mar 02 06:13:30 also, been in the pre since day one Mar 02 06:13:33 maybe freeze frame's not the proper term Mar 02 06:13:48 yea... we've had charlie chapman video recording all along!! Mar 02 06:13:57 lol Mar 02 06:14:13 grndslm: except now it uses a special burst mode driver for the camera - new code Mar 02 06:14:24 grndslm: charlie chaplin? Mar 02 06:14:33 err... yea Mar 02 06:14:48 gotta chick i know with the last name chapman i speak to quite frequently :x Mar 02 06:14:52 rwhitby: ah, so, now its burst mode? Mar 02 06:15:12 gkatsev: it's continuous mode, but uses a burst mode underlying driver it seems Mar 02 06:16:27 rwhitby: ah, ok Mar 02 06:17:56 thats why you were commenting on it on twitter Mar 02 06:23:14 rwhitby: it's taking advantage of the new code lower in the stack, used by the camcorder mode, perhaps? Mar 02 06:31:25 what are some of the best games on webos that are free? Mar 02 06:57:34 gkatsev: "Asian Girls" is a really nice free game. -_- Mar 02 06:58:20 "the helicopter game" is pretty decent... air traffic light, chess.com is awesome 'cause i can play my friend online, Drinking Trivia is one of my favorite apps for shootin' the shiz Mar 02 06:59:34 deadman, card ace, word ace, word whirl lite, crosswords lite, doom, quake, visual boy advanced... Mar 02 07:10:52 grndslm: lol, asian girls Mar 02 07:24:51 holy crap Mar 02 07:25:06 why in the world doesn't this imageview widget work Mar 02 07:29:12 codeslaw_out: what probs are you having with it? Mar 02 07:29:25 it just will not initialize Mar 02 07:29:28 I use a couple of them Mar 02 07:29:44 i've basically copy/pasted the code out of the UIWidgets app Mar 02 07:29:52 and it still won't work Mar 02 07:30:18 hmmm.....nevertheless, care to paste your code...maybe I'll see something you aren't Mar 02 07:30:32 are you applying custom styles? Mar 02 07:30:33 sure Mar 02 07:30:44 not currenly Mar 02 07:31:01 OK Mar 02 07:31:31 you want fullscreen or in a less than FS div? Mar 02 07:34:06 less than FS Mar 02 07:34:07 http://pastebin.org/99822 Mar 02 07:35:49 i know those image urls work Mar 02 07:35:56 its to my server Mar 02 07:36:06 but when i create a new image and set its source to the url, it loads fine Mar 02 07:42:37 see anything glaringly wrong? Mar 02 07:48:43 sorry...was out for a bit...looking now Mar 02 07:49:01 np Mar 02 07:49:12 bug report: date format for calendar top bar does not obey localisation settings. Mar 02 07:49:29 feature request: birthdays in contacts should be optionally added to the calendar. Mar 02 07:49:51 and question: has anyone yet written fully customisable number formatting app or shall i? Mar 02 07:50:07 what sort of number formatting Mar 02 07:50:07 ive been writing the patches for my own phone but not released em, and theyre not fully customisable. Mar 02 07:50:14 codeslaw_out: are you setting up the widget in the scene's setup method? Mar 02 07:50:18 phonenumbers, currency, time. Mar 02 07:50:23 mostly phonenumbers. Mar 02 07:50:31 i'm setting it up in the callback of an AJAX request Mar 02 07:50:35 cause i hate the (xxx) xxx-xxxx format. i use xxx.xxx.xxxxx Mar 02 07:51:04 elf: havent seen anything like it in the catalog Mar 02 07:51:09 k. Mar 02 07:51:13 ill clean it up and app it then. Mar 02 07:51:24 cause im sick of redoing it by hand each time theres a new release. :) Mar 02 07:51:31 thanks much :) Mar 02 07:51:32 codeslaw: Ahhh....that's the prob. Run this.controller.instantiateChildWidgets() on the parent div container Mar 02 07:52:05 oh, and theres nothing displayed on the top left if roaming. Mar 02 07:52:11 which is a little confusing. Mar 02 07:52:12 trying it Mar 02 07:52:31 where the carrier label usually is. Mar 02 07:52:54 codeslaw: running this.controller.setupWidget outside of setup and you must do instantiateChild widgets or use this.controller.update(containerDiv, "
") Mar 02 07:53:12 yes, confirmed! Mar 02 07:53:16 codeslaw: also, why aren't you doing left and right provided on setup? Mar 02 07:53:23 codeslaw: sweet....glad I could help Mar 02 07:53:33 i stripped it down bare bones so i could figure out what was breaking Mar 02 07:53:40 had no idea about the setup widget deal Mar 02 07:53:42 codeslaw: that shit screwed me up for a awhile before I figure it out Mar 02 07:53:46 holy crap that was a waste of 4 hours Mar 02 07:53:55 thanks man Mar 02 07:53:55 (another question: what exactly is the bootup sequence, and why does the presence of patches make it go exponentially slower, even if the patches are later removed?) Mar 02 07:54:13 codeslaw: its the key to setting up widgets outside of the scene's setup method Mar 02 07:54:27 roger that Mar 02 07:54:37 elf: thats a good question for rwhitby Mar 02 07:54:54 OK, head back down in my own code..cheers Mar 02 07:54:58 thankee. Mar 02 07:55:05 ill ask if i see hir around. Mar 02 07:55:52 codeslaw: have they updated the cavas docs? they looked the same to me....still hoping for 2D image data goodness Mar 02 07:56:03 no updates Mar 02 07:56:17 no functionality enhancements either Mar 02 07:56:34 but, style width/height vs element width/height was changes Mar 02 07:56:36 changed* Mar 02 07:56:46 hi, guys Mar 02 07:57:19 oh really? The changelog indicates canvas changes...but I guess they just reimplemented/refactored without enhancing? Mar 02 07:57:40 does someone uses calendar on 1.4? Mar 02 07:57:49 I can't create events Mar 02 07:58:09 end date is invalid, time fields are NaN Mar 02 07:58:41 I haven't installed any calendar patches! What is it? Mar 02 07:59:27 jfelectron: yes, some stuff is a little different, but they didnt implement any more features Mar 02 07:59:41 codeslaw: ahh bummer Mar 02 08:00:35 shura0: ive not experienced that... can you give details? Mar 02 08:00:45 whats the start date/time, end date/time entered? Mar 02 08:00:57 try to create new event in Calendar. I'll see Mar 02 08:01:06 End date is invalid Mar 02 08:01:15 and impossible to change it Mar 02 08:01:23 palm calendar? Mar 02 08:01:26 yes Mar 02 08:01:31 or google or somefin? Mar 02 08:01:35 palm Mar 02 08:03:41 im not getting that at all... Mar 02 08:03:56 perhaps the db file got corrupted? Mar 02 08:05:10 http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3811/shura0.1/0_397f6_6c640c5c_orig Mar 02 08:05:21 there is screenshot Mar 02 08:05:50 thats whenever you do a regular event or an all-day? Mar 02 08:06:00 it is I'm trying to create new event Mar 02 08:06:04 regular Mar 02 08:06:07 not all day Mar 02 08:06:15 thats a very diff menu than what i see. Mar 02 08:06:32 oh, when you do that... right. Mar 02 08:07:42 i didnt get that when i used the menu nor when i touched the calendar to create an event.... Mar 02 08:11:39 ceate new event and press (i) Mar 02 08:12:17 didnt happen here. Mar 02 08:12:21 can you assign end date? Mar 02 08:12:46 end date or time? Mar 02 08:12:56 no matter Mar 02 08:13:08 yes. Mar 02 08:13:09 i could . Mar 02 08:13:11 hm Mar 02 08:13:11 both date and time. Mar 02 08:13:19 this event is 1 day and 1 hour long Mar 02 08:13:20 it's strange Mar 02 08:13:31 did you try assigning an end date before the start date? Mar 02 08:13:40 how? Mar 02 08:13:59 when I press (i) start date is already exist Mar 02 08:15:27 probably I need WebOS Doctor.. Mar 02 08:15:30 shit Mar 02 08:15:41 i have hour-long diff between the two. Mar 02 08:40:08 hi Mar 02 08:48:35 anyone else got problems with out of memory errors? Mar 02 09:04:39 so the icon that shows up when you launch an app is new Mar 02 09:05:05 but it's also not the icon.png that i refer to in appinfo.json, any ideas Mar 02 09:05:29 it's still the default green crescent moon Mar 02 09:12:14 nm, it was just a cache thing Mar 02 09:35:24 please help with keypress event Mar 02 09:35:43 now I catch keypress so: Mar 02 09:35:46 Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.sceneElement,Mojo.Event.keypress, Mar 02 09:35:46 this.keypress.bind(this),true); Mar 02 09:35:52 is it right? Mar 02 09:36:19 it's working but I have an issue Mar 02 09:36:26 I have 2 scenes Mar 02 09:37:13 and after I push scene2 and return back to first, keypress event is called twice on every keypress Mar 02 09:38:10 I initialise listen in 'MainAssistant.prototype.activate' section Mar 02 09:38:24 and deactivate in 'MainAssistant.prototype.deactivate' Mar 02 09:38:41 Mojo.Event.stopListening(this.controller.sceneElement,Mojo.Event.keypress, Mar 02 09:38:41 this.keypress.bind(this)); Mar 02 09:38:52 where is my error? Mar 02 09:41:46 call stopListening on cleanup Mar 02 09:42:00 Shura0: problem is you need to cache the result from bind Mar 02 09:42:06 since you need to call it with the same function Mar 02 09:42:21 how? Mar 02 09:42:22 ie, this.boundKeypress = this.keypress.bind(). Then use this.boundKeypress in both activate and deactivate. Mar 02 09:43:05 fob: cleanup is only called after the scene is popped of the stack. if another scene is pushed on top, deactivate is called. Mar 02 09:43:48 oh yea Mar 02 09:43:50 whoops Mar 02 09:44:23 this.keypress=this.keypress.bind() Mar 02 09:44:23 Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.sceneElement,Mojo.Event.keypress, Mar 02 09:44:23 this.keypress,true); Mar 02 09:44:26 right? Mar 02 09:44:49 uerhm, bad practice, but I guess it would work Mar 02 09:44:55 really, don't assign it to itself Mar 02 09:45:18 oh! Mar 02 09:45:47 how can i install apps from the us catalogue in germany? Mar 02 09:45:50 this.keypress_bind=this.keypress.bind() Mar 02 09:45:50 Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.sceneElement,Mojo.Event.keypress, Mar 02 09:45:50 this.keypress_bind,true); Mar 02 09:45:54 with a german pre Mar 02 09:46:37 jbjoerk, thank you Mar 02 09:49:32 np Mar 02 11:08:04 Heya Mar 02 11:08:18 hi Mar 02 11:08:26 hi Mar 02 12:43:12 ha Mar 02 12:58:27 haha Mar 02 12:59:07 i like the casual discussions in here Mar 02 13:02:43 xD. i meant ha, like in: ha, changed my nick Mar 02 13:03:31 I mean haha like I'll see your ha and raise you one ha. Mar 02 13:04:28 aww. i fold Mar 02 13:12:20 hi haeffb: Mar 02 13:16:51 Bmyers Mar 02 13:58:54 you cannot transfer contacts using the pre bluetooth? Mar 02 14:02:52 i think only mail is offered Mar 02 14:38:34 does anybody has interesst to develop a webos syncclient for palm, to sync with funambol and many other groupware servers? Mar 02 14:39:11 so i need help in that... it's not easy... Mar 02 14:39:27 information can be found here.. https://webos-client.forge.funambol.org/ Mar 02 14:47:22 the palm pre bluetooth does not support file transfer. I find that weird Mar 02 14:56:56 I'd love to port my stuff on the pre Mar 02 14:57:08 … if days had twice as many hours and caffeine kept me up twice as much. Mar 02 15:04:10 monring all Mar 02 15:04:16 millenomi: so.. you are a porter :) Mar 02 15:04:45 the evil plan was: recast stuff in term of a half-decent toolkit Mar 02 15:04:57 say http://github.com/millenomi/cumin Mar 02 15:05:04 make engine with that Mar 02 15:05:15 use PDK on webOS, NDK on Android, native on iPhone. Mar 02 15:05:37 but it takes a ton of time even if I rationalize the codebase that way Mar 02 15:05:53 and requires a full app rewrite :( Mar 02 15:06:36 … and the numbers I see all say it does not make economic sense, even if it would be fun. :( Mar 02 15:08:48 (that rant was triggered because I made an iPhone app exactly for rolsworth's problem above :) ) Mar 02 15:14:58 morning Mar 02 15:18:11 hmm ... downloaded the 1.4 SDK .. When I go into Eclipse to update the Palm Mojo SDK plugin, I get "there is nothing to update"?? Mar 02 15:19:23 And the version is still listed as 1.3.5.200912021722 Mar 02 15:24:37 any ideas? Mar 02 15:33:05 so, when do we find out who the big weiners are? Mar 02 15:33:08 I mean winners Mar 02 15:33:27 which winners? Mar 02 15:33:40 the hot apps program winners Mar 02 15:34:09 they way to work with a class in webos is the same as in normal javascript right? Mar 02 15:34:55 sugardave: doesn't the contest go through may? Mar 02 15:35:24 it does? I thought it was just Fev Mar 02 15:35:26 feb Mar 02 15:35:33 oh well, shows how much attention I pay :D Mar 02 15:35:47 feb 1 to may 31 Mar 02 15:35:52 ah, cool Mar 02 15:35:54 I'll wait Mar 02 15:35:55 ;) Mar 02 15:36:17 noaXess: classical oop sucks in js....use prototypes Mar 02 15:36:39 sugardave: okay... Mar 02 15:37:38 how can this be wrote other ways?SyncManager = Class.create({ initialize: function(syncUrl, userName, password, devId) {....}) Mar 02 15:37:51 noaXess: here's an example of how to make a "class" without Class.create: http://webos101.com/Extended_widgets Mar 02 15:39:01 sugardave: sorry.. and which one :) Mar 02 15:39:27 the top section there...it's a very simple example Mar 02 15:39:38 there's another one for db helper objects that follows the same method Mar 02 15:39:54 http://webos101.com/Mojo_Database_Helper_Objects Mar 02 15:40:26 okay.. so.. thats not my problem.. mine is, how to get eclipse working like i can jump to each definition from a method.. without anytime searching for it. Mar 02 15:40:54 oh....I see....no idea :D Mar 02 15:42:03 if the source is programmed like: resetCmdID: function() { Mar 02 15:42:03 this.cmdID = 0; Mar 02 15:42:03 },... Mar 02 15:42:03 then eclipse can find any declarations.. Mar 02 15:42:13 sugardave: how do you develop? Mar 02 15:42:22 I use komodo Mar 02 15:42:39 well, a little bit of eclipse since komodo plugin isn't working with 1.4 (is it yet?) Mar 02 15:42:55 but, I'm not doing any actual webos dev at the moment, working on cloud stuff Mar 02 15:43:25 sugardave: need to update to 1.4 sdk.. Mar 02 15:44:51 I have that, it's an updated Komodo extension I need Mar 02 15:44:59 sugardave: should i first remove old sdk? or overwrite? Mar 02 15:45:01 it's not too horrible, just can't make a new scene in komodo Mar 02 15:45:20 noaXess: I've been uninstalling and re-installing with the 1.4 version Mar 02 15:49:42 sugardave: Templarian was on last night asking if komoedit work with 1.4 Mar 02 15:50:46 if he hasn't changed anything recently, then no it doesn't Mar 02 15:50:58 I can't seem to make his download block work, either Mar 02 15:51:14 you can't make a new scene Mar 02 15:51:27 everything else appears to be okay Mar 02 15:52:36 Bmyers: it does Mar 02 15:52:49 it does? Mar 02 15:52:52 yay! Mar 02 15:52:55 Oh yea well it doesn't all work Mar 02 15:53:00 It's still very broken Mar 02 15:53:04 hehehe Mar 02 15:53:08 But it can at least compile projects :) Mar 02 15:53:19 I'll be working on it don't worry. Mar 02 15:53:19 it's okay, command line scene generation works Mar 02 15:55:13 cu Mar 02 15:56:21 Templarian: I think I speak for more than just myself when I say we all appreciate your efforts with the komo plugin Mar 02 15:56:37 indeed Mar 02 15:56:54 you speek for me too! Mar 02 15:57:38 Bmyers: yea fixing up the WoW armory application so I'm definately noticing all the bugs and broken features. Mar 02 15:57:53 do you play wow Templarian? Mar 02 15:57:57 New scene is just one line change. Mar 02 15:58:01 digitalpowers: nah. Mar 02 15:58:22 Use to on and off since it came out, but never more than a few days at a time. More of a shooter person. Mar 02 15:59:05 heh, hard to balance gameing of any sort with productivity Mar 02 15:59:41 Yea, been trying to only mess with SC2 for a few hours a day, that kills productivity. Mar 02 15:59:51 i can imagine Mar 02 16:00:06 Starcraft not Suppreme Comander. Mar 02 16:00:43 i figured, seemed like a logical jump from wow Mar 02 16:00:55 and startcraft is superior to most games Mar 02 16:01:02 i am sure 2 will be even more so Mar 02 16:02:31 (not really a jump, it plays almost the exact same) Mar 02 16:04:17 oh hey i have been meaning to ask again, anyone know how to make a folder on the pre from code? the dl manager changed and wont do it for me anymore Mar 02 16:04:45 or to get the download manager to download a file into my apps folder that would work too Mar 02 16:07:30 hi Mar 02 16:07:37 i ve got a problem with list and array ... Mar 02 16:07:53 i creates an array like this : this.stopsInformations['items'] = [ { Mar 02 16:07:53 "name" : "01h", Mar 02 16:07:53 "a" : "1" Mar 02 16:07:53 }, { Mar 02 16:07:53 "name" : "02h", Mar 02 16:07:56 "b" : "2" Mar 02 16:07:58 }, { Mar 02 16:08:01 "name" : "03h", Mar 02 16:08:03 "c" : "3" Mar 02 16:08:05 l_a_m: Mar 02 16:08:06 } ]; Mar 02 16:08:10 use webos.pastebin.com Mar 02 16:09:06 sugardave: ok Mar 02 16:09:48 this is my problem : http://webos.pastebin.com/Dzppkgik Mar 02 16:09:58 i don't understand why i can't see all the data Mar 02 16:11:02 l_a_m: that html you have is in template form, which means those replacements will have to come from a widget's model, most likely a List widget Mar 02 16:11:43 l_a_m: read up on Lists and simple examples here: http://webos101.com/List Mar 02 16:12:23 where is the palm mojo sdk for eclipse? Mar 02 16:12:40 found Mar 02 16:14:17 sugardave: http://webos.pastebin.com/5CBd3evL Mar 02 16:14:24 sugardave: i have setup the widget Mar 02 16:14:28 sugardave: with model Mar 02 16:14:31 is the sdk plugin for eclipse still on 1.3.5?? Mar 02 16:15:22 http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdownloads/eclipse-update-site/site.xml Mar 02 16:15:57 no, everything was updated, no? Mar 02 16:16:04 l_a_m: ah, so the problem is it's just showing #(name) and not the details? Mar 02 16:16:09 sugardave: yes ! Mar 02 16:17:00 morning all Mar 02 16:17:03 /mode #webos +b digitalpowers* Mar 02 16:17:08 oh what? didn't see you there Mar 02 16:17:12 * maik whistle Mar 02 16:17:19 :P Mar 02 16:17:21 l_a_m: I'm not sure why it won't...it might be confused that not all your items have properties a, b, and c...but I don't think that should matter Mar 02 16:17:31 morning codeslaw_ Mar 02 16:17:39 and all Mar 02 16:17:39 need to make it so you can change your nick even if you arnt authenticated, that way we can deal with ghosting Mar 02 16:18:19 gkatsev: so, it seams that the eclipse plugin is still on 1.3.5... Mar 02 16:18:42 Komodo Edit for the win. Mar 02 16:18:58 noaXess: but in the sdk changelog they said they updated it for the new sdk, no? weird Mar 02 16:19:09 maik: still doesnt support the 1.4 stuff Mar 02 16:19:13 ugh. Mar 02 16:19:14 Templarian: get on that Mar 02 16:19:20 gkatsev: so.. they lie ;).. Mar 02 16:19:28 noaXess: i guess Mar 02 16:19:28 my pre is toasted. upgraded to 1.4 and have no data. Mar 02 16:19:33 bah Mar 02 16:19:37 gkatsev: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1639&Itemid=21 Mar 02 16:19:39 just checked /var/loog/messages and it's scrolling like mad. Mar 02 16:19:58 PmNetCOnfigManager failing. Mar 02 16:20:12 2010-03-02T16:17:25.468444Z [52172] palm-webos-device user.err PmNetConfigManager: {netcfg.mgr.nwatch}: Error in opening device Mar 02 16:20:15 mostly that. Mar 02 16:20:16 well, either way, i suggest komodo. Mar 02 16:20:16 gkatsev: get on what? Mar 02 16:20:29 Templarian: add the new 1.4 template support to your plugin Mar 02 16:21:00 I'll have to read what that is. Mar 02 16:21:29 Templarian: they now have two templates for creating scenes/new projects. a blank one and one with some samples. Mar 02 16:22:13 Oh. Yea sure I'll integrate it under the new project screen when I have time. Mar 02 16:22:24 make time Mar 02 16:22:50 Well i'm sitting at work while my co-worker goes over the new design with marketing. Mar 02 16:22:56 lol Mar 02 16:23:02 see, you have time right there Mar 02 16:23:17 why waste it by waiting when you could work on your addon? Mar 02 16:23:24 I'm working on the WoW application before the geeks kills me. Mar 02 16:23:41 lol Mar 02 16:23:52 no one cares about wow Mar 02 16:24:03 I know, but they still play it. Mar 02 16:24:11 lol Mar 02 16:26:57 some palm users here.. from palm inc.? Mar 02 16:28:38 still early for those guys Mar 02 16:28:50 They have only been in the office for 8 hours. Mar 02 16:28:54 I mean 28min* Mar 02 16:28:57 haha Mar 02 16:29:39 * Templarian got distracted part way through typing there and brain just tried to fill in info Mar 02 16:29:51 lol Mar 02 16:32:26 i used to play wow hardcore Mar 02 16:32:29 for about 2 years Mar 02 16:32:35 quitting that game was the best decision i have ever made Mar 02 16:33:01 shh, I have to get those addicted people to donate still. Mar 02 16:33:24 Templarian: "donate"? or donate? Mar 02 16:34:06 All though to be fair I did word the description for the application as if the individual was addicted to crack, just replacing crack with "WoW". Mar 02 16:34:59 So I understand that you [WoW] is something you have to do every day, and it's best to know what your fellow [WoW] users are doing while on the go. Now you get with this [WoW Armory] application. Mar 02 16:35:16 s/that you/that/ Mar 02 16:35:36 oh fuck :(((( Mar 02 16:35:43 sugardave: i find my pb Mar 02 16:35:50 where can i found more information about appinfo.json.. i know that there are the menus of a webos app are defined.. Mar 02 16:36:00 l_a_m: good? Mar 02 16:37:16 so i am using the download manager for uploading images to my site Mar 02 16:37:43 but whether or not the upload fails or succeeds, only the onSuccess events fire, and give no information about whether or not it worked Mar 02 16:37:54 sugardave: i try Mar 02 16:38:13 sugardave: i change my fr_fr view , but in the emulator, i'm in us Mar 02 16:38:18 sugardave: so there is no effect Mar 02 16:38:20 pffff Mar 02 16:39:05 ok Mar 02 16:39:08 so it works fine :) Mar 02 16:41:41 is my problem a common one? Mar 02 16:41:41 anyone have experience doing uploads with failure recognition? Mar 02 16:41:48 updated to 1.4 and none of my datapipes work. Mar 02 16:41:56 no evdo, no wifi. Mar 02 16:41:57 l_a_m: oh good, I knew it looked right Mar 02 16:42:48 codeslaw_: not sure about uploading but i am having trouble with downloading fireing onSuccess even though it doesnt download, it appears mostly related to trying to create a folder in my case which it wont do Mar 02 16:42:49 aha Mar 02 16:42:55 when I stop powerd evdo works again Mar 02 16:44:24 keep getting a ton of 2010-03-02T16:43:51.139587Z [1345] palm-webos-device user.err pubsubservice: [connectionManagerUp: 526]: Connection manager went down!! Mar 02 16:44:27 2010-03-02T16:43:51.140045Z [1345] palm-webos-device user.err pubsubservice: [connectionStatusV2: 973]: Error in getting connectionStatus {"serviceName":"com.palm.connectionmanager","returnValue":false,"errorCode":-1,"errorText":"com.palm.connectionmanager is not running."} Mar 02 16:44:42 it doesn't work when I stop powerd, it just shows the Ev icon as if it were working. Mar 02 16:45:11 2010-03-02T16:43:51.466033Z [1345] palm-webos-device kern.warning kernel: sd8xxx: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module Mar 02 16:45:14 2010-03-02T16:43:51.505767Z [1345] palm-webos-device syslog.info pmsyslogd: {com.palm.wifi}: ------ Flushing ring buffer for user.crit message ------ Mar 02 16:45:18 er woops Mar 02 16:45:20 going to pastepin Mar 02 16:45:23 2010-03-02T16:43:51.505615Z [1345] palm-webos-device user.crit PmWiFiService: {com.palm.wifi}: Serious error: failed to load wifi driver. Mar 02 16:45:24 digitalpowers: ya i'm probably going to have to return a success/fail message from the server and just display that Mar 02 16:46:13 yeah i am still not sure what i am going to do, i really want to download images and cache them locally but my method for doing so got hooped in 1.4 just as i released by beta Mar 02 16:49:52 so i guess I have to do the total device reset? Mar 02 16:50:33 is there a way to do that without windows? Mar 02 16:51:26 ah, it's java, should work Mar 02 16:54:58 http://webos.pastebin.com/e68vw100 <-- with this, schedule-hour and schedule-text have same size ... Mar 02 16:55:07 why ? does someone have any idea ? Mar 02 16:56:58 doesn't seem like that should be happening Mar 02 17:05:09 l_a_m: what happens to be your css filename? Mar 02 17:06:40 sugardave: sorry ? Mar 02 17:07:21 i don't understant why font-size: 26pt; have no effect on Mar 02 17:07:33 but schedule-text works fine Mar 02 18:33:01 heya Mar 02 18:33:54 alright, now file picker crashes my app once i hit "Select Image" Mar 02 18:34:01 the button shows the down state, and then locks up Mar 02 18:34:02 WHAT THE HELL Mar 02 18:34:13 every single day, a new error pops up with the filepicker Mar 02 18:34:23 i am just selecting a freaking image Mar 02 18:34:28 my head is ready to explode Mar 02 18:34:31 hey swisstomcat Mar 02 18:34:38 hey Mar 02 18:34:59 not happy with 1.4? Mar 02 18:35:13 in absolutely no way Mar 02 18:35:16 can't do a think with 1.4 Mar 02 18:35:23 i had to reset to factory Mar 02 18:35:27 broke my app on the pixi Mar 02 18:35:31 waiting on that to finish before I upgrade again. Mar 02 18:35:42 i'm a glutton for punishment, i guess. Mar 02 18:35:44 forward gesture is broken too i heard Mar 02 18:35:46 phone has been choppy Mar 02 18:36:00 forward gesture IS broken, i was getting 5 emails an hour over the weekend Mar 02 18:36:05 mine ran down a full battery in under an hour after i upgraded to 1.4 Mar 02 18:36:08 filepicker is now crashing Mar 02 18:36:10 then the net all stopped working. Mar 02 18:36:23 seems the reslease was rushed Mar 02 18:36:34 absolutely Mar 02 18:37:18 no problems here... Mar 02 18:37:44 i've some audio problems with my app .. with no code changes Mar 02 18:39:30 i was using reusing the same audio object to play different sounds, resetting it in between Mar 02 18:39:44 now it doesn't reset anymore and plays several sounds at once Mar 02 18:41:15 i am having download manager problems in 1.4 Mar 02 18:41:58 i know file picker crashes if you try to push a scene right after it closes Mar 02 18:42:15 but now it crashes no matter what happens Mar 02 18:43:40 apple just sued the CRAP out of HTC Mar 02 18:43:49 i saw Mar 02 18:44:04 as much as i'd like to see a big man fall Mar 02 18:44:07 i hope apple loses Mar 02 18:44:26 patent reform should be a top priority in our ridiculous govt Mar 02 18:48:23 amen sister Mar 02 18:48:50 * Mousey waves fist around defiantly in solidarity Mar 02 18:49:03 * Mousey then goes back to lurking, where he belongs Mar 02 19:07:39 * is a dude, but amen indeed Mar 02 19:19:59 * ? Mar 02 19:20:49 calling scrollTo on the default scenescroller should work? Mar 02 19:21:03 revealElement works Mar 02 19:41:09 anyone with an app in the catalog have feb report in their app admin page yet? Mar 02 19:46:54 moment Mar 02 19:47:15 nope Mar 02 19:47:23 only january Mar 02 19:49:34 bummer Mar 02 19:49:59 anyone have a calendar handy they could send to Palm? Mar 02 19:50:16 its february.. Mar 02 19:50:24 its march.. Mar 02 19:51:19 Bmyers: just calm down... Mar 02 19:51:29 it's february 31 :) Mar 02 19:51:44 just wait til tomorrow Mar 02 19:51:48 January 62? Mar 02 19:51:58 I could send then an Agenda. Mar 02 19:52:15 * Kuraiou came in at a weird time and is now confused. Mar 02 19:53:19 we try to remember which day is today Mar 02 19:53:35 and if we know it we will tell Palm Mar 02 19:56:27 Feb 367, 2009 Mar 02 19:56:51 minus 1.67 microseconds * 2 Mar 02 19:56:56 thanks haeffb: could ya do that for me? Mar 02 19:57:25 i've tried. they keep sending it back. Mar 02 19:57:38 whats annoying is i dont even have stats for jan but used to Mar 02 19:57:44 the disappeared somehow Mar 02 19:57:52 something about 'violating the rules' or some such Mar 02 19:58:15 too bad haeffb: thats a damn fine app there Mar 02 19:58:26 the PDN pages don't display well on device. Mar 02 19:58:55 the look good on my iphone.. Mar 02 19:59:02 :) Mar 02 19:59:14 lol Mar 02 20:00:03 there's seems to be a lot of 1.4 fallout judged from the posts at the palm developer forum Mar 02 20:03:18 broken apps? Mar 02 20:03:26 yeah Mar 02 20:04:31 screentimeout/scene transitions/forware gesture/filepicker/gps Mar 02 20:11:04 i'm not having any gps trouble in 1.4 Mar 02 20:11:12 but you forgot to add downlnoad managaer Mar 02 20:11:57 my app is simple enough that as far as I can tell it still works fine. Mar 02 20:12:02 Nobody's emailed me with anything, at least. Mar 02 20:12:45 <-- canvas trouble Mar 02 20:18:37 metaview? Mar 02 20:25:00 can anyone tell me first of all if I can download flash on my pre yet or has adobe not released it? and secondly, I have my pre on sprint and is it true verizon pre's get a mobile wifi access with 1.4 and if so why doesn't sprint get it? Mar 02 20:25:21 flash has not been released as far as i know Mar 02 20:25:31 ok, bummer Mar 02 20:25:38 I got excited when I read that Mar 02 20:25:53 first half of 2010 Mar 02 20:26:04 1.4 made webos ready for it Mar 02 20:26:14 how bout the mobile wifi hotspot, hear anything about that? Mar 02 20:26:34 apparently it's exclusive to verizon and the pre plus Mar 02 20:26:41 grrr Mar 02 20:26:55 but there are solutions for other providers Mar 02 20:27:22 I had mytether on before but the guy that developed that never seemed to get the actual wifi to work after a patch a while back Mar 02 20:27:28 is that what you are referring to? Mar 02 20:27:31 yeah Mar 02 20:27:47 i think there are others but i'm not 100% sure Mar 02 20:27:56 do you have the wifi working on your pre? (I am assuming you have a pre) Mar 02 20:27:57 you need wifi or would bt work too? Mar 02 20:28:08 i use bt tethering Mar 02 20:28:12 bt would work, wifi would just be ideal, least headaches Mar 02 20:28:14 yes, i have a pre Mar 02 20:28:23 gsm pre tho Mar 02 20:29:15 so is the pre going to be more functional than the lame ipad? or is ipad gonna hop on the mobile flash bandwagon too? Mar 02 20:29:48 can't really compare a phone to a tablet Mar 02 20:29:57 i heard that flash will not come to the ipad Mar 02 20:30:10 psh, its hardly a tablet Mar 02 20:30:16 it will to come to webos and android Mar 02 20:30:21 I just wanted to take a jab at the ipad Mar 02 20:30:39 everyone likes to do that Mar 02 20:56:01 man, Palm needs to license webOS out to some different hardware manufacturers :/ Mar 02 20:56:17 because it's going to need a hell of a lot of money in the upcoming legal battle with Apple that's bound to ensue. Mar 02 20:57:30 why should apple sue palm too? Mar 02 21:05:31 anyone in here working on an app in ares? Mar 02 21:08:31 Updated my Sprint Pre yesterday to WebOS 1.4. The Sprint name in the top left corner was no longer there and the phone was alawys offline. Now, phone doesnt recognize any battery is plugged in at all, no matter what battery I try. This happen to anyone else? Mar 02 21:08:48 heyas Adora, law Mar 02 21:08:58 that's... odd. :/ Mar 02 21:10:09 I know right Mar 02 21:10:19 just curious, got a call into Palm, have to call bvack thier Speicalist team Mar 02 21:13:38 hey adora Mar 02 21:13:53 heya Mar 02 21:14:40 hi folks Mar 02 21:15:25 i'm sure there are some folks here using ares Mar 02 21:16:02 I just need some screenshots of apps being built in ares Mar 02 21:16:39 phone offline might also mean airplane mode Mar 02 21:16:48 i can do that if you want Mar 02 21:17:01 of the flickr search app from the tutorial Mar 02 21:17:21 Don't think Airplane mode was on, but sadly can't check to make sure Mar 02 21:17:26 swisstomcat: do you already have it loaded up? Mar 02 21:17:51 in a sec Mar 02 21:18:06 i'm in Mar 02 21:18:25 does it matter which browser? Mar 02 21:18:53 nope, just needs to be the highest resolution possible Mar 02 21:19:01 browser will be cropped out, probably Mar 02 21:19:55 let me make a screenshot Mar 02 21:20:35 even when phone was on, had signal that is for calls and messaging, it didn't show Sprint in the top left.. don't know if that relates to airplane mode per se Mar 02 21:21:16 adora: png? Mar 02 21:21:23 png is perfect Mar 02 21:21:48 1324x1082 including the browser Mar 02 21:22:53 adora: http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/snap01.png Mar 02 21:23:40 can you do one where the images are loaded? Mar 02 21:23:47 this might be perfect Mar 02 21:24:02 Hi All, I am using XMLHttpRequest() with basic http authentication. When the username and password are changed the request always uses the first good authentication and does not use the new, supplied username and password, even after the app is closed and relaunched. The only way to get a new username and password to work is to reset the device. Does anyone know how to force XMLHttpRequest to use the supplied username and password? Mar 02 21:24:51 hold on Mar 02 21:25:41 use Ajax.Request instead? Mar 02 21:26:48 isn't the backend of Ajax.Request still XMLHttpRequest? I'll look into it... Mar 02 21:27:30 yeah, it is Mar 02 21:27:39 eh, I dunno. Mar 02 21:27:56 is it stored as a cookie? perhaps it can be cleared..... Mar 02 21:28:17 adora: the images will only be diplayed in the emulator i think Mar 02 21:28:19 thats what I was hoping for but don't know where to look... Mar 02 21:28:37 adora: after entering a search term Mar 02 21:29:12 swisstomcat: but you can send the app to the emulator from ares, no? Mar 02 21:29:21 sure Mar 02 21:29:39 what should the screenshot show? ares and the emulator? Mar 02 21:29:44 will you get me a screenshot of that? Mar 02 21:29:52 just to get working images in the application itself Mar 02 21:30:02 and I'll photoshop it in to the ares screenshot you just sent Mar 02 21:30:40 heh, i was going to propose exactly that Mar 02 21:31:25 adora: what search term? Mar 02 21:31:39 cow? Mar 02 21:31:43 pre? Mar 02 21:31:49 kittens! Mar 02 21:32:23 morning Mar 02 21:32:31 g'day rwhitby Mar 02 21:33:49 adora: http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/snap03.png Mar 02 21:34:23 kittens =] Mar 02 21:34:32 sweet Mar 02 21:34:41 is there an application "browser cache" or something like that; that XMLHttpRequest uses? Mar 02 21:34:49 still no 1.4 for Canadians? Gee, the US is taking the Olympic beatings pretty hard to hold back 1.4 because of it ... Mar 02 21:35:04 maybe it's a good thing with all those bugs Mar 02 21:38:43 god, I hate IE6 so much Mar 02 21:39:05 i don't care about IE6 anymore ... Mar 02 21:39:23 who cares if the website looks like shit .. upgrade the browser Mar 02 21:40:08 ie6 is freaking 8 years old .. a dinosaur Mar 02 22:14:17 g'night everyone Mar 02 22:31:21 Win7 upgrade disk in the mail today. Mar 02 22:37:14 i develop on mac, but going to be using my gf's laptop for a couple days Mar 02 22:37:15 its windows Mar 02 22:37:22 what is the best command line tool for windows/ Mar 02 22:37:24 PuTTy? Mar 02 22:38:36 command line tool? Windows has a command prompt. Mar 02 22:38:43 or command line for device? Mar 02 22:52:24 For the Palm competition, which catalog are they using to for the # of dl's etc? Mar 02 23:19:26 eWizardII: i think it is all 3 catalogs (well the official ones) App Catelog, Web Distrobution, and Beta, but i am not possitive Mar 02 23:20:26 Okay so then the ones they are keeping track of here, http://www.projectappetite.com/ Mar 02 23:20:45 looks like it Mar 02 23:26:43 althought i have to say appetite doesnt appear to have all the stuff from those categories because i cant find my most recent app on their (released to beta on sunday) Mar 02 23:27:54 someone do something along the lines of /mode $q-a or w/e. Mar 02 23:28:01 s/someone/op/ Mar 02 23:31:40 hey, anyone know how to include jquery in webos? Mar 02 23:32:05 topher_: easy.....put in sources.json..done Mar 02 23:32:07 you need to use jQuery no conflict mode maybe? Mar 02 23:32:21 gkatsev: yes Mar 02 23:32:44 i've tried noCpnflict, but maybe I'm doing it wrong. do i call the scripts from index.html? Mar 02 23:32:55 topher_: look at spaz, the twitter client.....he uses jquery Mar 02 23:33:25 how do I get access to the code for that? sorry to seem so niave about all this Mar 02 23:34:32 its open source. its up on github or something or other Mar 02 23:35:02 topher_: yeah google spaz....you''ll find the site, he links to the repo from there Mar 02 23:35:13 nice one. i'll take a look. Mar 02 23:35:16 http://github.com/funkatron/spazcore/ Mar 02 23:35:29 anyone know how to control the size of webview Mar 02 23:35:40 thanks for all your help guys. gkatsev espically for the irc help too Mar 02 23:35:59 topher_: more specifically http://github.com/funkatron/spaz-webos Mar 02 23:42:21 is there a way to get a list of keys in a Mojo.Depot? Mar 02 23:43:43 jettero: don't think so....but just store a hash in the depot and pull it out Mar 02 23:44:40 I suppose... but what if that hash gets corrupted because of bugs or something? the rest of the depot is just lost at that point? Mar 02 23:44:56 also, what is the "bucket" argument for Depot.remove()? Mar 03 00:07:06 anyone know a solution to: http://www.weboshelp.net/webos-forums/index.php?topic=218 i'm having same issue Mar 03 00:11:23 Zuchmir2: do you have img's in your html? Mar 03 00:17:51 no Mar 03 00:18:21 the JS calls a custom plugin Mar 03 00:18:59 * haeffb needs testers for an Agenda revised version... Mar 03 00:22:03 Zuchmir2: you load a js in the html? Mar 03 00:28:20 the mojo Mar 03 01:09:29 haeffb: would test but I have no agenda Mar 03 01:35:46 hi all Mar 03 01:43:28 hi Jenp: Mar 03 01:44:32 hi Bmyers Mar 03 02:12:00 yeah i got an email conf...it wouldn't let me log in without activating it Mar 03 02:58:08 i have a pre plus i need to activate that i switched from one line to another its stuck on sign into profile but it cant since the phone is not in service yet, anyway to force a *228 or activation? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 03 02:59:58 2010