**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 12 02:59:57 2010 Mar 12 03:07:36 anyone else experiencing that calendar not showing events at the right time? Mar 12 03:10:31 yeah usually off by a day or something Mar 12 03:10:59 * haeffb has not experienced that Mar 12 03:13:32 i p ut an event in for 10 pm(now est) and it shows up 3 am same day Mar 12 03:13:37 so 19 hrs back Mar 12 03:13:57 from what i saw it has something to do with restoring the db3 Mar 12 03:14:11 but trying to see if there is anyway to fix this wihtout doctoring ( i want to keep my texts and call log and what not) Mar 12 03:50:18 anybody know performance issues of iterrating an array via pop() or [i] notation? Mar 12 03:50:32 no Mar 12 03:50:38 nope Mar 12 03:50:46 I always either do each() or [i] Mar 12 03:52:53 Anybody had any luck using JS/Plug-In interface? Mar 12 04:07:53 odd Mar 12 04:08:28 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.silentbluesystems.prepagesphonelite Mar 12 04:41:13 Did the 1.4 SDK change how Mojo.Log.logProperties works? It used to output the keys and values of a JSON object (I thought), but now it doesn't Mar 12 05:46:25 the pre could do with an irc client in the catalog Mar 12 05:46:41 need a service for that Mar 12 05:46:46 like.... wirc! Mar 12 05:47:36 wirc works but I'm done with installing preware Mar 12 05:47:46 why... Mar 12 05:47:54 I am actually on my pre right now Mar 12 05:48:14 I would be to, but i just doctored mine Mar 12 05:48:19 stupid alarm not working Mar 12 06:14:18 hi everyone! Mar 12 06:14:24 hello! Mar 12 06:30:01 oi Mar 12 06:30:16 pie Mar 12 06:54:59 anyone set up their pdk environments? Mar 12 07:21:08 morning Mar 12 07:26:38 morning Mar 12 07:26:55 hey roy Mar 12 07:27:00 how goes? Mar 12 07:27:04 do you ever sleep? :) Mar 12 07:27:08 I wish. :( Mar 12 07:28:14 sleep is for the weak Mar 12 07:28:23 I could sleep for a week... Mar 12 07:28:32 actually I just dont do it, because I never feel like I need to Mar 12 07:28:34 yeah, i heard "you can sleep when you're dead" as well Mar 12 07:28:48 take advantage of that crap while I am chugging along like I am Mar 12 07:32:15 when you get older you need sleep :) Mar 12 07:32:36 wait until you have kids ... Mar 12 07:41:00 right nwo I work 7-4:30 or so, then come home and TRY to get an hour nap in Mar 12 07:41:13 then at about 8pm get online start cracking out code unti about 3 in the morning Mar 12 07:41:23 and back at it again at 5:50 the next mornin Mar 12 07:43:58 wow Mar 12 07:46:09 well crap... It looks like I accidently included png copies of many of the jpg images in may last app update. Mar 12 07:47:40 swisstomcat: only probably 4 nights a week Mar 12 07:47:50 like I said if I dont feel the need to sleep Mar 12 07:47:51 I dont Mar 12 07:47:59 and being passionate baout software doesnt exaclty help Mar 12 07:48:14 unfortunately hit a LOT of snags with webos framework Mar 12 07:48:33 so been sleeping earlier the last week or so Mar 12 07:48:50 anyone have advice on how to do an http request? Mar 12 07:49:10 download manager Mar 12 07:49:20 or in js Mar 12 07:49:24 use ajax.form Mar 12 07:49:31 or just a regular ajax request Mar 12 07:49:33 quite simple Mar 12 07:49:36 or you need something diff Mar 12 07:50:36 ron_frown: no, i really only need something simple, but i found a couple different ways to do it online and i was wondering if anyone had a preferred way or advice Mar 12 07:51:01 use html+ js stuff if it makes sense Mar 12 08:01:01 I am using an alarm to trigger my app with special parameters. This works fine when the app is closed. Is there a way to catch the alarm when the app is currently running? Mar 12 08:01:30 I am sure there is device info that tells what app is running or something Mar 12 08:01:33 what app is focused Mar 12 08:02:02 there should be something like a reactivate listener but I cannot find it Mar 12 08:05:16 hi sebastianha Mar 12 08:06:40 hi Mar 12 08:08:06 hmm, I realize now that I never created tags for my release versions in svn. Still learning the svn ropes. Mar 12 08:08:40 i'm conteplating to use version control too for my projects Mar 12 08:09:14 e.g mercurial ... who does? Mar 12 08:09:20 <- svn Mar 12 08:12:59 swisstomcat: you gotta use -some- kind of revision control. Mar 12 08:13:21 Bah, unfortunately, I'm still learning svn. Mar 12 08:13:54 trying to tag a release and I'm not quite getting it right. Mar 12 08:14:06 i've not used on yet :) Mar 12 08:14:13 and i'm still using gedit :) Mar 12 08:14:51 old habits die hard Mar 12 08:15:12 because using something like komodo would also help weeding out typos Mar 12 08:17:49 oookay.... my svn repo doesn't have a trunk directory. Mar 12 08:18:17 Trying to follow this: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch04s06.html Mar 12 08:19:35 And I was going to go to sleep hours ago. I blame swisstomcat. Mar 12 08:20:44 hehe Mar 12 08:20:54 i just woke up Mar 12 08:21:12 3:21 Mar 12 08:21:47 here Mar 12 08:22:15 gee Mar 12 08:22:17 go to bed Mar 12 08:22:43 Will try to move all directories into trunk later. Mar 12 08:22:53 And then try hacking the setup so it points to the right place. Mar 12 08:32:43 That worked. svn mv to trunk then svn switch Mar 12 09:14:11 still awake, roy-pre101? Mar 12 10:04:23 hey guys Mar 12 10:04:53 is there a usable way to use proxies in wifi yet? Mar 12 10:05:20 hi Mar 12 10:32:08 hi Mar 12 10:47:27 hi Mar 12 11:52:10 Anyone here playing with the pdk? Mar 12 12:19:27 not yet Mar 12 12:28:58 It's a bit of a pain by the looks of it to get the environment set up Mar 12 12:29:19 No guides on getting a deploy to the phone done from any of the ides they talk about. Mar 12 12:29:31 They inlcude eclipse with it, but go on about setting things up for visual studio. Mar 12 12:29:34 Crazy fools. Mar 12 12:50:55 Know what's cool? Mar 12 12:51:02 Games with a decent framerate on webos :) Mar 12 12:56:29 yup Mar 12 12:56:36 NFS looks great Mar 12 12:57:08 interesting would be to port some of the palm apps to the pdk e.g calendar Mar 12 12:58:17 Yeah, that'd be cool Mar 12 12:58:32 I just got to learn me some c++ and sdl now :) Mar 12 12:58:42 Got a bouncing green rectangle so that's a good start Mar 12 13:04:40 i'm afraid of c++ Mar 12 13:04:50 after years of scripting languages Mar 12 13:06:11 strange problem .. i push a scene but activate is not called .. what gives? Mar 12 13:06:26 well if you do a lot javascript it should be okay... coming from php could be a pain in the ass Mar 12 13:17:00 c++ and javascript are similar? Mar 12 13:18:07 It won't be any less of a pain coming from any dynamic language Mar 12 13:18:47 yeah, that's my concern .. last static languages i touched were turbo basic and turbo pascal :) Mar 12 13:18:58 and that was ages agoè Mar 12 13:24:17 ahh, I'm coming from java so I don't tihnk it should be too bad. Mar 12 13:24:31 Done a little C a few years ago as well. Hated it :) Mar 12 13:43:00 hello world Mar 12 13:47:32 morning haeffb Mar 12 15:07:08 hi all Mar 12 15:07:12 hi Mar 12 15:07:19 anybody uses PDK already? Mar 12 15:07:35 tons I imagine... Mar 12 15:07:36 not yet Mar 12 15:07:40 is it possible to make daemons? Mar 12 15:07:52 background apps Mar 12 15:08:45 I'm using Ajax.request() to pull down a utf8 doc with utf8 characters in it, but they're getting remapped (I think) to ascii, so Prē becomes PrÄ instead. Any idea how to convince prototype or webos, or whatever, that those be unicode? Mar 12 15:09:16 Shura0: I don't believe so. Check out the WebOS Internals development kit Mar 12 15:09:23 i'm having similar problems, jettero Mar 12 15:09:34 already awake again, roy-pre101 :) Mar 12 15:09:41 swisstomcat: ;smile Mar 12 15:09:43 swisstomcat: Not happily! Mar 12 15:09:59 if I just put unicode int he html, it works great, so it's the ajax object that's squashing the encoding Mar 12 15:10:03 I think Mar 12 15:10:11 but prototype.js defaults to utf8, so I don't get it Mar 12 15:10:11 Roy-Pre101, is it official kit? Mar 12 15:11:06 Roy-Pre101, I found it! Thank you, I'll look Mar 12 15:12:10 there's an idk? Mar 12 15:12:20 I may have to look for that later Mar 12 15:12:28 jettero: i have a php-script that outputs utf-8 Mar 12 15:12:36 jettero, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK Mar 12 15:12:56 but it hasn't any documentation. Mar 12 15:13:15 at least I haven't found it Mar 12 15:15:00 ask in #webos-internals shura0 Mar 12 15:15:28 ok Mar 12 15:17:34 the WIDK is really a superset of the PDK. Mar 12 15:18:03 You can read all about it on my blog posting: http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/03/palm-releases-pdk-beta/ :) Mar 12 15:21:34 Roy-Pre101, thank you, very useful Mar 12 15:21:44 Hey, I try. Mar 12 15:21:47 thanks Mar 12 15:22:39 you wrote WIDK will support development for X11 and so Mar 12 15:23:00 whic x11 server uses palm pre? Mar 12 15:23:04 *which Mar 12 15:24:29 guys, I want to write keyboard localisation, but I don't know what SDK I should use Mar 12 15:25:20 I need listen keyboard, get latin letter, change letter to cirillic one and send it to active field Mar 12 15:25:27 is it possible at all? Mar 12 15:26:28 Shura0: thanks mang. Mar 12 15:27:04 swisstomcat: yeah, I'm using output from a site I'm quite sure is in utf8 ... I do not understand why it's puking up ascii crushed symbols when it inserts in the html Mar 12 15:29:07 have you tried other umlauts, jettero? Mar 12 15:33:02 swisstomcat: not rly. I was tyinking of putting in like mah prē — is like 115°F and I ♥ it anyway... Mar 12 15:33:30 I fail to see what difference it makes though. It's clear it's crushing the utf8 encoding into a single byte encoding for some reason Mar 12 15:33:43 I'm trying all kinds of things... it's really just guessing atm though Mar 12 15:35:58 maybe a bug? Mar 12 15:36:08 wouldn't be the first one Mar 12 15:39:44 I don't thin it's a bug Mar 12 15:39:48 I think I'm missing something Mar 12 15:39:57 I will eventually track it down Mar 12 15:44:56 heloo Mar 12 15:45:19 hey Mar 12 15:45:59 how goes it in Swiss land today? Mar 12 15:46:27 pretty good Mar 12 15:46:34 the sun is shining Mar 12 15:46:37 working on my app Mar 12 15:46:59 raining here and at home with my sick son Mar 12 15:47:22 not as good Mar 12 15:47:48 hehe yeah Mar 12 15:48:26 At least I didn't waste my time on the crap-tastic Liverpool game last night Mar 12 15:48:36 Man they suck Mar 12 15:51:32 i'm off .. cul8er Mar 12 15:51:40 later Mar 12 15:51:45 Even being home with a sick son is better than a good day at work. Mar 12 15:51:59 hehe ... well, sort of Mar 12 15:52:08 At work I can slack off and work on my app Mar 12 15:52:42 Mine's 3 1/2, and requires all my free time, which I gladly give. Mar 12 15:53:02 mine's 19 months Mar 12 15:53:21 It just keeps getting better and better. Mar 12 15:53:21 Monroe: how difficult is Google API for reverse geocoding? Mar 12 15:53:45 reverse geocoding ... not too bad .. My app is doing it Mar 12 15:53:53 yeah .. he's a blast Mar 12 15:54:07 Ok, so I'm hired at a Network Eng... Now I'm QA manager and a PHP/Javascript code monkey, how the hell does that work. Mar 12 15:54:14 was looking @ Yahoo & it seems pretty simple Mar 12 15:54:19 he's a good baby too ... Even when he's sick he's good (except that he was awake all night last night) Mar 12 15:55:22 Yea, that sucks. Unless you have a domestic engineer full-time :) Mar 12 15:55:32 hehe Mar 12 15:55:49 She's heading out to work in a few minutes, so I'll be on the clock Mar 12 15:55:57 haeffb ... http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/services.html#ReverseGeocoding Mar 12 15:56:52 haeffb .. I Mar 12 15:57:08 I've got a few bugs to work out, then I can send you my code fi you want Mar 12 15:57:50 sure...never turn down free stuff... :) Mar 12 15:58:26 :) Mar 12 16:18:50 oic, my unicode woes are part of the transport document, not webos Mar 12 16:22:08 reporting bug upstream Mar 12 16:49:38 hi Mar 12 16:55:06 weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Mar 12 16:57:28 fun ride? Mar 12 16:58:38 no Mar 12 16:58:44 800 unique downloads in a day Mar 12 16:58:56 yet I did not go over the api limit Mar 12 16:59:32 Amateur Mar 12 17:04:50 I had 6 downloads yesterday Mar 12 17:05:42 lol Mar 12 17:07:56 6 paid downloads? Mar 12 17:09:43 yes Mar 12 17:09:48 nice Mar 12 17:10:17 I get $0.86 for each one. will pay for a Big Mac. Mar 12 17:11:15 Still making more money with advertising than with sales Mar 12 17:11:31 what are you using for advertising? Mar 12 17:11:57 oooh. 8 more today. Mar 12 17:12:12 admob Mar 12 17:12:27 coo Mar 12 17:12:30 gonna check them out Mar 12 17:12:36 6 and 8? hm, I have an average of 4 ... Mar 12 17:12:49 I think having an ad is better than charging for my app Mar 12 17:12:59 should be enough to cover any api charges Mar 12 17:13:08 yes, that's for sure Mar 12 17:13:19 about to release an update. that should give a brief bump Mar 12 17:13:47 funny enough I have one paid app which is now rated with 1.5... Mar 12 17:13:57 no comment unfortunately Mar 12 17:14:06 don't know what the problem is Mar 12 17:14:31 what app? Mar 12 17:16:17 Wikay Mar 12 17:18:28 is there a linux app like winscp? Mar 12 17:18:46 a norton commander like interface but over scp? Mar 12 17:19:00 MetaView: an scp gui? Mar 12 17:19:09 yes Mar 12 17:19:22 but I could do it with Nautilus, or? Mar 12 17:19:29 connect to server, I guess Mar 12 17:20:50 MetaView: yeah, thats the thing. Mar 12 17:21:01 you could always just run winscp under wine if you want Mar 12 17:21:49 it's already Ubuntu in a virtual machine :) Mar 12 17:21:56 MetaView: i guess there is also gftp Mar 12 17:22:13 gftp, ok thx Mar 12 17:30:06 gkatsev: thx for the gftp tip, works very nice Mar 12 17:30:26 woot Mar 12 17:30:31 admob works well with the app Mar 12 17:31:43 MetaView: np Mar 12 17:33:30 when tether with palm pre seems to block git port (9148). How is possible to unblock it? Mar 12 17:33:45 Admob works well for a few days, then you'll get 5% fill rates. Mar 12 17:36:56 Honestly, I'm not really trying to make money off of it Mar 12 17:37:06 just enough to cover server/api costs Mar 12 17:37:51 reality9110: not here, sometimes the CPM is very bad but the fullful rate is always at 95%, the remaining are filled with my own ads Mar 12 17:50:34 Woohoo ... about time for the UK game! Mar 12 18:36:53 Good Day eveyone Mar 12 18:37:36 CTLAdvance: "good morning gentlemen" Mar 12 18:37:37 can anyone see me or do i need to identify again? Mar 12 18:38:04 yes but it may not be morning for some who are on Mar 12 18:38:33 :) Mar 12 18:38:43 CTLAdvance: universal greeting time (always morning when someone starts, always evening when someone leaves) :) Mar 12 18:38:44 dammit wheres infobot when you need him/her/it/monkey Mar 12 18:39:03 halfhalo_T400: in the #webos-internals channel? Mar 12 18:39:16 should be here as well Mar 12 18:39:27 has anyone seen CTLAdvance? he hasn't talked in forever Mar 12 18:39:37 wawaWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Mar 12 18:40:24 No I have been away for allong time now Mar 12 18:42:57 BURN THE WITCH! Mar 12 18:45:51 how do you know she's a witch? Mar 12 18:46:33 Whos she? Mar 12 18:53:51 boomshakalakalaka Mar 12 18:56:20 She has got a wart Mar 12 18:57:07 We did do the nose... And the hat. Mar 12 19:07:50 hi Mar 12 19:08:05 guys, is it possible to make daemon applications with PDK? Mar 12 19:10:50 Hi when we erase apps and data, we can still redownload everything correct? Mar 12 19:13:12 redownload apps, buta data is gone Mar 12 19:54:33 woot Mar 12 19:54:43 4.5/5 stars Mar 12 19:55:32 Somehow my app jumped from a 3.3/5 to a 3.9 rating overnight Mar 12 19:55:50 they changed how the algorithm worked Mar 12 19:55:55 Good Mar 12 19:56:02 So is it correct now? Mar 12 19:56:49 paraphrasing from what chuqui posted on the palm forums: before is someone changed their rating it would not replace the first, but count as a new one. Now it replaces the first rating Mar 12 19:57:06 very nice! Mar 12 19:59:10 yeah Mar 12 19:59:39 * halfhalo_T400 gives chuqui a pat on the back for getting stuff done. Unlike those fruity guys Mar 12 20:01:58 Hopefully now the report system is fixed as well Mar 12 20:35:05 hey everyone Mar 12 20:35:16 no se english Mar 12 20:35:19 question about taxes, is palm going to issue us a 1099 or a w2? Mar 12 20:35:43 no idea Mar 12 20:35:49 no hapla espanol Mar 12 20:36:06 you should ask chuqui. He should know. Or will find out Mar 12 20:37:39 * halfhalo_T400 gets up and air guitars to iron man Mar 12 20:41:27 dow dow dowdowdow dowdowdowdowdowdow Mar 12 20:47:46 * haeffb needs to write instructions for copying/restoring a .db file to put on my website. Mar 12 20:48:00 * halfhalo_T400 needs to make a website in general Mar 12 20:48:55 Someone with free time go make an application that simply says "Good News Everyone" I'll design the icon. Mar 12 20:49:14 wait, from futurama? Mar 12 20:49:22 That would be WIN Mar 12 20:49:24 Of course. lol. Mar 12 20:50:02 "Good news everyone... actually it's terrible news" or what ever he said that one time. Mar 12 20:50:50 give me an audio clip of it an it will be DONE Mar 12 20:51:10 futurama in the summer! with original cast! Mar 12 20:52:20 FYI, the ability to recover a database following a webosDoctor is a GREAT reason to use the :ext parameter for database creation. Mar 12 20:54:07 grrr...where do you go in WinExplorer in Win7 to turn on viewing of hidden files/folders? Mar 12 20:54:23 organize Mar 12 20:54:26 haeffb: options Mar 12 20:54:33 folders and search options Mar 12 20:54:38 Yea that. Mar 12 20:54:47 * Templarian isn't helping. Mar 12 20:55:07 organize. so obvious. Mar 12 20:55:58 LOL. type "Show hidden folders" into the search bar (under start). Mar 12 20:56:22 They put a ton of quick options in there and keep adding more. Mar 12 20:58:05 chuqui: I know you won't admit it, but did you forget to feed the documentation guys? They require water also not just bananas. Mar 12 20:59:14 Palm should provide a way for app .db's to be backed up to Palm Profile. Mar 12 20:59:38 templarian I'll go check the litter pan in a minute. Mar 12 20:59:52 They can be pretty large and a huge battery drain to transfer. Also i'm sure it would be abused. Mar 12 21:00:20 So, it's better to let them be wiped away clean? Mar 12 21:01:17 how about a utility that will copy them via USB mode to a PC? Mar 12 21:01:29 honestly, I hate usb mode Mar 12 21:01:33 it needs to be changed Mar 12 21:01:48 or via wifi connection Mar 12 21:01:52 Yea OBEX, but that isn't happening for a while. Mar 12 21:02:16 I also think that a limited subset of the command line tools should be supported even when dev mode is off Mar 12 21:02:18 The idea of having a touchstone without obex is kind of weird. Mar 12 21:02:52 halfhalo_T400: security precaustion most likely. Mar 12 21:03:02 I know about those Mar 12 21:03:10 The idea of having app data with no way to get it back when your Pre goes bonkers is kind of weird Mar 12 21:03:21 It should not be allowed to install stuff, but list installed programs? Mar 12 21:03:22 yeah Mar 12 21:03:34 and their versions, and be able to launch certain apps Mar 12 21:37:34 xml to JSON parser? Mar 12 21:37:44 they make those? Mar 12 21:37:48 :O Mar 12 21:37:50 :p Mar 12 21:38:08 meh, their a pain Mar 12 21:38:36 so is walking thru the XML Mar 12 21:38:51 not reary Mar 12 21:38:59 I have to do it multiple times in one scene Mar 12 21:43:34 jjore: ping Mar 12 21:47:30 this works: http://www.thomasfrank.se/xml_to_json.html Mar 12 21:55:25 Woo! Mar 12 21:55:43 I have a a box moving about based on the accelerometer Mar 12 21:55:56 I'm getting the hang of this c++/sdl stuff Mar 12 21:59:53 This pdk stuff ain't so bad once you get going. Mar 12 22:17:08 hmmm now I'm stuck Mar 12 22:17:27 Any thoughts on what to include to get a LinkedList? Mar 12 22:21:21 Got it. Mar 12 22:57:47 Anyone know the height of the status bar at the top of the pre? Mar 12 22:57:59 I'm only asking cuz it would take 2 seconds to answer. Mar 12 22:58:52 4. Mar 12 22:58:52 nevermind Mar 12 22:58:58 I am sure it is 4 height. Mar 12 22:59:20 You mean 28 pixels? Mar 12 22:59:49 I am sure I mean nothing. Mar 12 23:00:05 plus or minus 4. Mar 12 23:03:22 anyone wanna beta test stuff? Mar 12 23:11:58 whatcha got? Mar 12 23:17:01 fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff Mar 12 23:17:10 hit my api's daily limit Mar 12 23:38:25 hi all Mar 12 23:38:33 hello! Mar 12 23:38:43 hi JenP Mar 12 23:38:54 hi guys! Mar 12 23:39:30 whoa: http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/developer-phones.html Mar 12 23:39:41 yeah Mar 12 23:39:56 omg...that's so cool! Mar 12 23:40:24 I don't see anything about unlocked devices yet ... Mar 12 23:41:04 Shipments limited to U.S and Canadian addresses only. Mar 12 23:42:33 meanwhile, http://www.palm.com/au/ hasn't changed for 6 months - still no way to buy one on an Australian carrier. Mar 12 23:44:14 no service plan required? Mar 13 00:06:52 anyone wanna beta test switcharoo or super sudoku? Mar 13 00:06:56 haeffb: as far as I can see, they all require service plans Mar 13 00:07:39 Maybe I should tweet: "No global dev phones! I'm leaving webOS due to Palm's actions!" ;-) Mar 13 00:10:36 rwhitby: it looks like you can get an O2 phone and doctor your way to local happinesss. (wifi only) Mar 13 00:11:19 lyht: small print says US only Mar 13 00:11:34 really. :P Mar 13 00:11:37 well, US/Canada. Mar 13 00:12:08 I find it weird how it says they'll only ship to US & Canada, yet the phones are for most international carriers (except, ironically, the one in Canada ;) Mar 13 00:12:23 woot, 1300 unique downloads ;D Mar 13 01:09:47 ugh Mar 13 01:10:11 ? Mar 13 01:10:25 stupid crap aint letting me push a scene Mar 13 01:10:30 lol Mar 13 01:10:36 my app is broken until midnight Mar 13 01:16:03 ahh there we go ;D Mar 13 01:16:11 this.controller.stageController.pushScene( Mar 13 01:16:45 errr.. no Mar 13 01:17:16 it works but it creates a new scene each time, so if i go back and then fwd again ive got 2 scenes to back out of, do it again, ive got 3..etc Mar 13 01:17:36 swapscene Mar 13 01:17:36 how are you closing the scene? Mar 13 01:18:04 back gesture Mar 13 01:18:13 their 'blank' scenes Mar 13 01:18:24 & you're not capturing the back gesture? Mar 13 01:18:29 nope Mar 13 01:18:40 i never had to before Mar 13 01:18:59 wait, so your pushing a blank scene then another scene? Mar 13 01:19:06 no Mar 13 01:19:14 i click a button which loads a new scene Mar 13 01:19:26 then using the backgesture i got back to the original scene Mar 13 01:19:39 click the button again, i goto the new scene, but i have to back out twice to get back to the main Mar 13 01:19:44 do it again, i have to back out 3 times ..etc Mar 13 01:21:09 hmmmm Mar 13 01:21:37 I've heard of that happening before, but not sure of the cause. Mar 13 01:21:50