**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:59:57 2010 Mar 29 03:00:03 ohhhhhhhhh ok, perfect :) Mar 29 03:02:31 can I remove the .cix file? Mar 29 03:31:57 ok, next question - sorting array of json objects Mar 29 03:32:10 http://pastie.org/892970 Mar 29 03:32:16 like this one Mar 29 03:32:29 no idea how to do this Mar 29 04:16:59 hi ya Mar 29 04:34:32 JenP: heyhey :) Mar 29 04:37:57 pandora-- omg long time no see Mar 29 04:43:40 hah ya Mar 29 04:43:52 havent done much palm coding until just a few days ago Mar 29 04:44:10 I totally understand Mar 29 04:44:12 gonna make sure everything is ready and working for the international billing appstore Mar 29 04:44:23 and a new app for the store is almost ready too Mar 29 04:44:37 yeah? what app? Mar 29 04:44:44 hey have you tried the new beta facebook app? Mar 29 04:44:52 yeah dig it Mar 29 04:44:54 can't give away my secrets yet ;P Mar 29 04:44:59 lol Mar 29 04:45:09 man. have you figured out how to DISABLE the notifications? Mar 29 04:45:23 last thing I need on my battery is facebook polling the background Mar 29 04:45:31 i love the app Mar 29 04:45:41 but i just want to disable the polling like you can with email, etc Mar 29 04:45:53 i had to delete it and reinstall the non-beta Mar 29 04:45:54 :( Mar 29 04:45:54 i have no idea Mar 29 04:46:49 damn Mar 29 04:47:02 well, back on the old version for me Mar 29 05:03:51 JenP: Save/Restore is ready for you to test now Mar 29 05:04:07 awesome...link? Mar 29 05:04:19 testing feed for preware Mar 29 05:04:33 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Mar 29 05:04:43 on it Mar 29 05:12:38 rwhitby got an interesting error Mar 29 05:12:50 command failed with return val 1 Mar 29 05:13:33 wait ...myfault Mar 29 05:17:00 rwhitby: ping Mar 29 05:17:12 JenP: yup Mar 29 05:17:22 k i executed the script in novaterm Mar 29 05:17:26 loaded preware Mar 29 05:17:28 now where? Mar 29 05:17:44 check in manage feeds - make sure both URLs are under the testing feed entry Mar 29 05:18:17 hi.. would anyone know how to change a widgets attributes dynamically, specifically the integerPickers max value? Mar 29 05:18:35 JenP: if you have both, and you've updated feeds (in addition to just loading them), then you should be able to search for save/restore in the list of everything Mar 29 05:18:48 I can tell you what has not been working. Mar 29 05:20:29 rwhitby: both are enabled...i must have done something wrong... Mar 29 05:20:44 is changing widget attributes on the fly even possible? Mar 29 05:20:48 i'll have to hit it when I get up in the AM though...got a super early morning Mar 29 05:20:52 JenP: ok Mar 29 05:20:59 but before i go... Mar 29 05:21:05 novaterm right? Mar 29 05:21:12 JenP: yep Mar 29 05:21:32 cut and paste the commands from the wiki page. don't type them Mar 29 05:21:35 and the last line in wiki /testing/armv7" >> is right.....the double >> Mar 29 05:21:43 (anyone who types them gets them wrong) Mar 29 05:21:49 what didn't know i could do that Mar 29 05:22:09 yes, the >> is append rather than overwrite Mar 29 05:23:03 cut and paste isn't working Mar 29 05:23:18 hmm - works on the Mac Mar 29 05:24:11 yeah id think paste has ever worked in novaterm Mar 29 05:24:43 kk i've gotta get ready for tomorrow...big day at work Mar 29 05:24:46 ttyl Mar 29 08:55:43 Hey hi,, Mar 29 08:55:56 Can anyone tell me how to encode my ipk file? Mar 29 10:27:26 Hello,, can anyone please tell me how can i override copy paste functions of appliction menu? Mar 29 10:39:22 how many fonts are supported in webOS? Mar 29 10:39:51 how many fonts are supported in webOS? Mar 29 11:15:11 hey all. Mar 29 12:30:18 hi! this night (in Spain :D), I was asking about get the HTML code in a WebView, JenP recommends me that I use a Ajax.request, the request is working, but after do it, I realize that the WebView is showing a private webpage (login/page), so I need to load the ajax with a cookie.... I think that the best way is get the HTML in the WebView if it's possible. Mar 29 13:55:39 what's wrong in this line: this.tuenti.mojo.isEditing(this.editingEvent.bind(this, Mojo.Event.renderAltCharacters, this.tuenti, event.keyCode)); Mar 29 13:55:55 I get this error: Error: Cannot call method 'isEditing' of undefined, line undefined, file undefined Mar 29 13:57:00 xota: is sounds as if "this.tuenti.mojo" were undefined Mar 29 13:57:21 Mojo.Log.debug("%j",this.tuenti.mojo) gives a value? Mar 29 13:57:52 Hi, can anyone tell me how can i use a picture with a button Mar 29 13:57:52 ? Mar 29 14:01:36 dthought: I'm using this.tuenti.mojo to load the url, so it exist Mar 29 14:05:08 xota: then no clue Mar 29 15:39:46 can I user Ajax.Updater in WebOS? Mar 29 15:45:39 I am trying to use the Palm PDK to create a plugin callable from Javascript and I am running into an issue calling PDL_Init, I have included the header file and linked to the libpdl.dylib, am I missing something else? Mar 29 15:46:28 you'll be better off posting that question in #webos-internals. Mar 29 15:46:48 the folks here are mostly doing mojo development. The folks in webos-internals are doing binary work. Mar 29 15:47:00 Rick_work: Thanks, I'll give that a try. Mar 29 15:47:24 good luck. Mar 29 15:50:32 Rick_work: Hmm, we're not going to cover PDK stuff here, too? Mar 29 15:50:57 we -can- cover pdk stuff here too, but are there very many pdk users who hang out here? Mar 29 15:53:24 Not yet. Mar 29 15:53:41 k.... fair enough. my bad then. Mar 29 15:59:23 It was a good suggestion, I hope we can get more PDK in here is all. Mar 29 15:59:52 Roy-Pre101: Any thought on the PDK issue I am having? Were you able to see the issue I posted? Mar 29 16:00:18 Issue calling PDL_Init? Mar 29 16:00:59 developernotes: What error are you getting? Mar 29 16:02:30 Compiler error, trying to call PDL_Init inside my main method. Mar 29 16:03:00 What is the specific error? Mar 29 16:03:49 I have #included the PDL.h header file and added a reference to the libpdl.dylib. Mar 29 16:04:24 I am getting a compiler error, "_PDL_Init" references from _SDL_main in downloader.o Symbol(s) not found. Mar 29 16:04:51 Hmmm, that looks like a linker error. Have you tried statically linking libpdl? Mar 29 16:05:49 Robdor: Not sure where to find libpdl Mar 29 16:06:56 Your compiler flag should set a lib path to something like this -L/opt/PalmPDK/host/lib if you statically link to it with -l it should find it automatically. Mar 29 16:07:13 That path is on a mac, I'm not sure what it is on Windows. Mar 29 16:07:36 If you installed to a different place on Windows the build scripts are hard-coded. Mar 29 16:07:45 That sentence sucked but I hope you can tell what I meant. Mar 29 16:07:51 Robdor: I am doing this on the mac, I will check Mar 29 16:08:10 Can you pastie your commands your compiler and linker are generating? Mar 29 16:08:28 Robdor: Where can I get those? Mar 29 16:08:37 Robdor: from within xcode? Mar 29 16:08:55 I'm not sure about xcode. I do all my compiling from the terminal. Mar 29 16:09:24 Robdor: I see in the Library Search Path it already includes /opt/PalmPDK/host/lib/ Mar 29 16:10:21 Roy-Pre101: understood, I used the default install on the Mac. Mar 29 16:11:07 Robdor: So should I not be using libpdl.dylib? Mar 29 16:11:35 I've never tried dynamically linking in any of my tests. I've always statically linked and it has worked. Mar 29 16:12:10 Have you tried building the sample? Mar 29 16:12:49 Robdor: Yes, but they don't use the PDL stuff, I am trying to create a C binary that I can call from Javascript. Mar 29 16:13:09 Robdor: The sample only does graphics. Mar 29 16:14:29 I suspect something funky going on in the compile command. If you can find out how to get that from xcode we may be able to find it. Mar 29 16:17:06 Robdor: The linker flags that get passed: -ISDL -ISDLmain -IGLES_CM Mar 29 16:17:31 So it looks like it isn't linking to pdl. There should be a -lpdl in there. Mar 29 16:17:52 Robdor: Ok, I'll give that a try. Mar 29 16:19:17 Robdor: case sensitive? I added -lpdl and I am still getting the error. Mar 29 16:20:06 Yeah, lowercase -lpdl should work. Mar 29 16:21:08 I haven't used PDL_Init before. I don't see that in the documentaiton anywhere. Mar 29 16:23:52 I came across it in this forum posting, near the bottom "fadeddata" mentions using it: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?sid=925ae66b9658fa523b256175e1f7fbbe&lastaction=login&f=70&t=5780 Mar 29 16:25:08 Robdor: I get the same error when attempting to call PDL_RegisterFunction. Mar 29 16:27:52 I don't see that one in the documentation either. Do you still get the error when doing something simple like PDL_GetCallingPath? Mar 29 16:29:25 Robdor: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2018&Itemid=340 Mar 29 16:30:45 Yeah, I don't see that here: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1990&Itemid=340 Mar 29 16:30:49 Is it supported? Mar 29 16:31:42 Robdor: Oh, I have no idea. Mar 29 16:32:22 I haven't used the PDL_* functions very much, so I'm not familiar with what is supported and what isn't. Mar 29 16:32:41 Robdor: I can call PDL_GetCallingPath without error. Mar 29 16:34:16 That makes me think that PDL_Init and PDL_RegisterFunction may not be supported. You could ask in #webos-internals. They would probably know more about that than I would. Mar 29 16:35:25 Robdor: Will check there, thanks for your help! Mar 29 16:35:36 No problem Mar 29 16:46:59 morning all Mar 29 16:53:20 morning LoneStar99 Mar 29 16:57:05 morning Roy-Pre101 Mar 29 17:03:05 trying to figure dout what happened to one of my apps Mar 29 17:04:17 4.8 rating has halted all sales.... Mar 29 17:14:03 which app? Mar 29 17:15:14 http://developer.palm.com/webChannel/index.php?packageid=com.buildasearch.search.app Mar 29 17:16:30 it is a bug with the app catalog, was dicussing with chuqui Mar 29 17:38:16 does anyone have a clue how the missing sync does work? how can it access (all) contact data? Mar 29 18:21:11 how long are approvals taking on average currently? Mar 29 18:31:39 hello guys! Mar 29 18:31:52 If anybody is interested, I put together a quick test using the Chipmunk 2D physics engine with the PDK. Turns out that I got great performance on the device. http://github.com/robmerrell/pdk_chipmunk_test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V90woECCIFM Mar 29 18:32:33 Robdor: looks awesome! Mar 29 18:32:57 wow Mar 29 18:32:59 thats cool Mar 29 18:33:03 I was surprised to get that good of performance using only software rendering. Mar 29 18:33:30 has anyone looked at Pi Master? Mar 29 18:33:59 hope to have it pretty soon so I can take it out of beta Mar 29 18:34:20 Robdor: is that something that can be hardware accelerated? that engine i mean Mar 29 18:34:53 The drawing can be. Mar 29 18:35:16 The balls could be texture mapped onto opengl triangle strips. Mar 29 18:35:40 I'm just using SDL's basic image displaying functions. Mar 29 18:37:09 that's great. do you know what's doing the core webos rendering? Mar 29 18:37:35 I don't Mar 29 18:38:30 Other than the cpu being used instead of the gpu that is. I'm not sure about what display drivers are being used... Mar 29 18:38:37 hmm Mar 29 18:38:57 well that's good, that means that there's still plenty of performance to be squeezed out of the Pre/Pixi :) Mar 29 18:39:06 SDL 1.2 doesn't natively use the GPU you have to set up an OpenGL context for that. Mar 29 18:39:15 Yeah the Pre is quite a bit more powerful than I thought. Mar 29 18:39:16 Robdor: Hey, can you post something up on webos101.com about that? Source and something about Chipmunk would be great. Mar 29 18:39:41 Sure thing. Mar 29 18:40:00 Great! There's a PDK section, but no Chipmunk or other library section yet, I don't think. Mar 29 18:41:17 I'm curious to see how it runs on the pixi. I don't dare install the dev tools on my wife's pixi to test it out though. She has enough problems with it as it is. Mar 29 18:43:48 yeah, I need to figure out if I can get it built w/lua5.1 Mar 29 18:43:51 whee. Mar 29 18:46:09 Robdor: what kind of problems with the pixi? Mar 29 18:47:19 It's really slow Mar 29 18:53:18 evening Mar 29 18:58:17 hi! Mar 29 18:58:26 hola Mar 29 18:59:21 hola swisstomcat Mar 29 18:59:31 hallo Mar 29 19:00:00 swisstomcat: did you see pi master? Mar 29 19:00:10 not yet Mar 29 19:00:24 I can give you the pro version for free Mar 29 19:00:34 what is it? Mar 29 19:00:53 it's a program with which you can learn pi :D Mar 29 19:01:18 working on a better version Mar 29 19:01:32 has anyone here played with ads in their apps? Mar 29 19:01:43 does that generate any revenue at all? Mar 29 19:01:54 you have to ask metaview Mar 29 19:02:10 hes not online :( Mar 29 19:03:00 anyone know why handleCommand is not generated automatically? Mar 29 19:12:54 Im trying to change my scene with this.controller.pushScene and I get an error (... has no method 'pushScene'...). I'm using same line that in satege-assistant.js Mar 29 19:13:18 can you show the code, xota? Mar 29 19:13:22 e.g pastebin.org? Mar 29 19:14:04 this.controller.stageController.pushScene ;) Mar 29 19:14:12 xota ;) Mar 29 19:14:57 swisstomcat: I was pasting the code, but the thomaschaaf fix works :) thanks! Mar 29 19:15:08 ;) Mar 29 19:15:15 haha swisstomcat :P Mar 29 19:15:25 the sheeeep wins again Mar 29 19:15:38 määäähhhhh Mar 29 19:15:52 how do I enable Help and Preferences in the appMenu? Mar 29 19:16:09 I want to enable Help.. and not have to translate it into every language Mar 29 19:16:44 it's enabled by default uncless you specify it Mar 29 19:16:53 and translated automatically Mar 29 19:17:49 http://pastie.org/894006 Mar 29 19:17:54 not really working for me Mar 29 19:18:05 leave that out Mar 29 19:18:13 leave what? Mar 29 19:18:18 the setupwidget Mar 29 19:18:31 so how do I do it then? Mar 29 19:18:35 if you only use the default help/preferences Mar 29 19:18:46 I want to just use help Mar 29 19:18:47 you just need to add the handler to stage-controller.js Mar 29 19:19:13 stage-assistant.js Mar 29 19:19:18 k Mar 29 19:19:33 http://pastie.org/894014 Mar 29 19:20:04 Mojo.Controller.stageController.pushAppSupportInfoScene(); where can I see an example of this? Mar 29 19:20:57 thomas, I strongly reccomend that you don't do that. Mar 29 19:21:05 no? Mar 29 19:21:12 Rick_work: what should I do now? :D Mar 29 19:21:21 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1872#.pushAppSupportInfoScene Mar 29 19:21:31 rick: the default handler or the pushappsupportinfoscene? Mar 29 19:21:40 swisstomcat but you can't customize it -at all- Mar 29 19:21:47 yes Mar 29 19:21:54 but if you only use the defaults? Mar 29 19:22:05 help/preferences Mar 29 19:22:10 I mean, if it does exactly what you want, then fine, but if you want anything else, you're stuck. So I always build them by hand. Mar 29 19:22:22 I actually need an About button :( Mar 29 19:22:25 I have more credits than there's spaces for. Mar 29 19:22:26 really? Mar 29 19:22:36 pushappsupportinfoscene has an about Mar 29 19:22:45 kinda Mar 29 19:22:48 thomas, use the link that swisstomcat gave you Mar 29 19:23:10 but clicking help I expect instructions for the game.. Mar 29 19:23:12 not an about page Mar 29 19:23:28 you can link to the instructions from there Mar 29 19:23:42 you can add links to other scenes or websites theree Mar 29 19:24:33 I'll look into it thanks a lot! Mar 29 19:31:19 knowing that 500 people tried your little app while in beta is pretty interessting :) Mar 29 19:31:44 swisstomcat: ping Mar 29 19:31:51 pong Mar 29 19:32:15 Donkey Kong! Mar 29 19:33:02 where? Mar 29 19:33:13 Doesn't matter Mar 29 19:33:22 :p Mar 29 19:33:31 haha Mar 29 19:33:42 roy-pre101: pong Mar 29 19:34:05 hey peoples Mar 29 19:35:10 anyone know of documentation on hiding/toggling divs? like labeled groups Mar 29 19:35:33 this.get.controller("DIV").hide() Mar 29 19:35:59 BigBiff:http://api.prototypejs.org/dom/element.html Mar 29 19:36:17 thx thomas - sounds pretty simple Mar 29 19:36:25 so this.get.controller("div").toggle(); Mar 29 19:36:32 is for hide and show Mar 29 19:37:05 cool - i was assuming it would be a mojo.event.15complicated functions Mar 29 19:44:07 how can I set the name of a palm-group? Mar 29 19:44:48 its called a label Mar 29 19:45:04 check out the style masters app Mar 29 19:45:05 ;) Mar 29 19:46:11 u can use the palm inspector Mar 29 19:47:01 thanks thomaschaaf Mar 29 19:47:25 LoneStar99: what's the palm inspector? I'm learning this, sorry my stupid questions :p Mar 29 19:49:00 xota: you should first use the style master and look into that source code.. Mar 29 19:49:11 it's how I learned and it worked out great Mar 29 19:50:44 thomaschaaf: I'm doing it, very good sample, tanks :) Mar 29 19:55:49 xota: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1611 Mar 29 19:59:39 is there a way to show a scroll bar? Mar 29 19:59:53 I want to show how far down the document the person is :D Mar 29 20:00:10 hey swisstomcat.. nithgt work? Mar 29 20:00:36 scrollbars are one of those UI things palm recommends you /don't/ do Mar 29 20:00:40 hey noaXess Mar 29 20:00:54 hello swisstomcat Mar 29 20:01:02 howdy lonestar Mar 29 20:01:04 LoneStar99: I'm developing over Linux, It appears to not be compatible Mar 29 20:01:37 VincentLaw: because? Mar 29 20:02:22 thomaschaaf: because people try to use it to scroll, when just dragging is MUCH easier Mar 29 20:02:47 you could probably do what Zune does, that is, only show a block indicating where you are in a long list when you are actually scrolling Mar 29 20:03:11 I love how the iphone os does it in the browser Mar 29 20:03:50 this isn't an iphone :p Mar 29 20:03:56 Or is it Mar 29 20:04:01 O_o Mar 29 20:04:04 I am sure you can make a div look like a scroll bar Mar 29 20:04:15 of course you /can/ do it Mar 29 20:04:27 there's no inbuilt webos way of doing it, you'd have to do it yourself Mar 29 20:04:35 well that sucks :( Mar 29 20:05:01 usually it doesn't really matter anyway Mar 29 20:05:10 webos indicates when there's more to scroll using a fade at the bottom Mar 29 20:06:06 VincentLaw: that is right - forgot about the fade... Mar 29 20:06:28 do I have to create that myself cuz I'm not seeing it Mar 29 20:08:07 thomaschaaf: you really should get the StyleMatters app Mar 29 20:08:09 all of this is in there Mar 29 20:08:20 scroll fades is one of the first options Mar 29 20:09:58 yeah it is in the SDK Mar 29 20:10:22 is there any reference about all the style that I can use in my .html files? Mar 29 20:10:33 xota no :D Mar 29 20:10:41 xota: styleMatters app >.> Mar 29 20:10:42 really? Mar 29 20:10:46 only?! Mar 29 20:10:49 yes :D :D Mar 29 20:10:54 only? Mar 29 20:11:00 stylematters is pretty darn comprehensive Mar 29 20:11:07 there's also uiwidgets for widgets Mar 29 20:11:26 what i do for pagination in my apps, is continually add content results page kinda like http://duckduckgo.com/?q=shopping&v= Mar 29 20:11:53 VincentLaw: I saw only because read the code app to see the elements, is "harder"... I prefer a pdf/url with class'es and screenshots Mar 29 20:12:15 LoneStar99: that's more or elss what the list widget does anyway I believe. you can see that in the contacts app Mar 29 20:12:40 xota: there's an accompaning excel doc of css info with it I believe Mar 29 20:13:38 in either case, you can always open the stylematters .js/.html files to see what each part does. they break it all down into their own assistants to make it easy to see what they're doing at a glance Mar 29 20:14:08 Well look who it is... Mar 29 20:14:09 VincentLaw: lists look cool, but at time of developing my app, lists seemed kinda cofusing, so opted for a homegrown solution Mar 29 20:15:14 hey chuq Mar 29 20:15:23 I still don't understand how I can apply a dark theme to my app.. Mar 29 20:16:08 LoneStar99: tbqh lists aren't as complicated as they look. if you crack open StyleMatter's code and see how they do it, most of it can actually just be copy/pasted for your app Mar 29 20:16:11 add to your index.html body Mar 29 20:18:27 VincentLaw: ok will look into lists on the next overhaul of my app Mar 29 20:20:21 i heard lists are also sortable via date etc... Mar 29 20:22:50 thomaschaaf: in your index.html, you want your body to be Mar 29 20:27:02 I don't have a in my index.html Mar 29 20:27:36 * halfhalo_class app is to sexy for a body tag Mar 29 20:27:41 worked though :) Mar 29 20:29:53 hi Mar 29 20:33:29 hi Mar 29 20:39:04 my pre is so much nicer at 720mhz :) Mar 29 20:39:25 no its not Mar 29 20:39:33 mine is Mar 29 20:39:41 again no its not Mar 29 20:39:56 someone's excessively argumentative Mar 29 20:40:32 dundunDUNNNNNNNN Mar 29 20:40:34 yah.. too anxious to work on anything.. waiting to hear back on an offer i put in on a house ;D Mar 29 20:40:50 I don't want it that fast (percent wise thats a lot of overclocking) is there a way to get more around 650 mhz? Mar 29 20:41:19 thomaschaaf: no. Mar 29 20:41:49 I mean, technically, yes, there is a way. but it involves a lot of math that can be extremely dangerous if wrong. Mar 29 20:42:07 VincentLaw: ah the other ones are precalculated? Mar 29 20:42:20 as in by the manufaturer? Mar 29 20:43:05 based off other higher end/future chips Mar 29 20:43:13 basically, they were pre-existing profiles Mar 29 20:43:39 hm okay Mar 29 20:44:26 has anyone fried their phone yet? Mar 29 20:44:33 i'm happy with 720mhz .. rock stable so far *knock on wood* Mar 29 20:47:01 hmm don't know if I am cool enough :D Mar 29 20:47:03 thomaschaaf: I don't think there's been any such reports Mar 29 20:55:24 I have two elements in my scene a TextField and a PasswordField, I can see the TextFieldValue with this.controller.get("username").mojo.value, but the same in the password gives me a undefined Mar 29 20:56:16 try the textfield's model Mar 29 20:56:28 that should work Mar 29 20:57:51 swisstomcat: I get this setup's from a sample, could be? http://pastebin.com/SM7prFzf Mar 29 20:59:55 xota: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1923&Itemid=301 Mar 29 21:01:15 in this case, you would take this.model out of the setupWidget call Mar 29 21:02:24 swisstomcat: I was reading it, and with getValue() works in the pass field, in the text field i only use .value and no problem Mar 29 21:04:47 are people here using mopspot? Mar 29 21:04:50 mobspot Mar 29 21:05:07 xota: maybe the password field is special, have not used one so far Mar 29 21:05:26 no use .value with the model.. Mar 29 21:06:25 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5910/Jing/2010-03-29_2306.png what does that mean for me? what do I have to do now? Mar 29 21:06:35 xota: just a minute.. i use a password field Mar 29 21:07:43 thomasschaaf: do you have the webosdoctor-file in the same dir? Mar 29 21:07:49 what? Mar 29 21:07:56 I just have the webosqucikinstall.jar Mar 29 21:08:33 you have to add the webosdoctor.jar Mar 29 21:08:37 to the same directory Mar 29 21:08:42 ah okay Mar 29 21:08:49 hi Mar 29 21:09:00 hi MetaView Mar 29 21:09:07 hallo metaview Mar 29 21:09:10 have a question regarding ad supported apps Mar 29 21:09:20 have you had any luck with them ? what were you using? Mar 29 21:09:30 <-- admob Mar 29 21:09:55 MetaView: and is it any good? Mar 29 21:10:27 there are days where I can buy lunch and dinner from the income and days when it only is enough for 1 icecream Mar 29 21:11:06 the eCPM goes up and down, no clue why Mar 29 21:11:09 MetaView may i ask what apps? Mar 29 21:11:52 MapTool, �berRadio, Match This!, TravelGuide Mar 29 21:13:30 I just wounder if its not easier for the user to pay 80 cents.. and have no space wasted.. Mar 29 21:13:44 everything except TravelGuide is using canvas for most of the content, I'm not sure if it affects the eCPM Mar 29 21:13:57 they don't pay Mar 29 21:14:35 75k downloads for Match This! compares to 80 downloads of Match This! Pro Mar 29 21:14:47 oh :d Mar 29 21:14:49 is anyone from Palm here? Mar 29 21:15:01 chuq just left Mar 29 21:15:09 yeah, haven't seen anyone else Mar 29 21:15:20 a pitty, he's probably going for birds again Mar 29 21:15:41 MapTool is in review since 1 week, quite a long time, I think Mar 29 21:15:53 yeah, that seems long Mar 29 21:17:08 g'night everyone Mar 29 21:17:25 xota: i use this.Password_model.value to get the value.. Mar 29 21:18:18 maybe xota can't access it because of the wrong "this" Mar 29 21:18:42 noaXess: no problem with mojo.getValue Mar 29 21:27:48 another question... to save a user and a pass, I really need use HTML5 database? or can I do it easily? Mar 29 21:29:43 xota: you could use a cookie Mar 29 21:30:09 LoneStar99: but I cookie continue saved, when I close my app? or reboot my phone? Mar 29 21:31:03 yeah Mar 29 21:31:13 i run cookies in all my apps Mar 29 21:32:07 same, cookies are the way to go for small information Mar 29 21:32:29 DUKE_HIT_STRIPPER1 Mar 29 21:32:41 whoa what'd i just come back to? Mar 29 21:32:41 xota: yeah - building a DB for a username and password - might be overkill Mar 29 21:32:58 ok LoneStar99 thanks :) go see cookie doc Mar 29 21:34:38 xota: http://www.webos101.com/Mojo.Cookie Mar 29 21:36:04 thx LoneStar99 Mar 29 21:36:33 np Mar 29 21:38:42 MetaView: 1 week is too long, i bet something broke and it is in some weirdo status state Mar 29 21:40:11 * kmudrick always assumes PDC breakage Mar 29 21:41:38 PDC? Mar 29 21:41:45 palm developer center Mar 29 21:42:03 will write an email to Judy Mar 29 21:44:06 it's stupid, if I make it right it hangs , if I make it wrong it works, just the sound is broken Mar 29 21:46:11 i have virtualbox 3.0.14.. is there any way to start the palm-emulator anyway? Mar 29 21:46:46 if i start palm-emulator i get an information that it is compatible only with 3.0.0 or 3.0.12 Mar 29 21:47:02 there is some forums thread how to fix it Mar 29 21:47:14