**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 14 02:59:56 2010 Apr 14 07:12:44 morning Apr 14 09:42:53 servus Apr 14 10:17:52 morning Apr 14 10:54:09 hi Apr 14 11:00:02 hi Apr 14 12:18:02 morning haeffb Apr 14 12:58:36 morning folks Apr 14 12:59:07 So, lazy this morning: how do you load CSS dynamically in webOS? Apr 14 12:59:50 morning roy-pre101 Apr 14 13:00:11 elabor8 on your question Apr 14 13:00:17 swisstomcat: Crossing off the days on your calendar? Apr 14 13:00:35 oh yes :) Apr 14 13:00:52 one week Apr 14 13:00:59 7 days Apr 14 13:01:17 168 hours Apr 14 13:01:26 10080 minutes Apr 14 13:01:58 i wonder when they'll post the agenda for the second day Apr 14 13:02:11 probably on the 22nd or 23rd Apr 14 13:03:01 apparently loading CSS is as easy as adding something to Apr 14 13:03:20 an additional css? Apr 14 13:04:10 add it to index.html Apr 14 13:04:16 dynamically Apr 14 13:04:18 Apr 14 13:04:42 dynamically through javascript? Apr 14 13:04:45 yes Apr 14 13:04:47 afk a bit. Apr 14 13:05:20 oh Apr 14 13:05:30 on my website i use the following: Apr 14 13:05:32 Apr 14 13:05:55 and then in the javascript: Apr 14 13:05:55 document.getElementById("css").href="../css/main.css"; Apr 14 13:18:08 Good morning all - quick question from a newbie: how does one go about tracking multi-touch in a Mojo app? Apr 14 13:20:10 morning Apr 14 13:20:19 did you post that question to the developer forum? Apr 14 13:20:44 I did not - I tried searching for it though and found nothing. Apr 14 13:21:40 I mean, I find topics with people asking, but no answers. http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4146 Apr 14 13:22:15 yes, that's the one i saw too Apr 14 13:33:36 huh - apparently PDK supports it in SDL. int event.motion.which; //each point the OS is tracking is enumerated starting at 0 Apr 14 13:34:21 Now I just wonder why the main webOS SDK doesn't do that. Apr 14 13:34:28 maybe it's a bug in the SDK Apr 14 13:35:13 hopefully someone from palm will respond Apr 14 13:35:18 :shrug: don't know - all I know is it stops firing events for the first finger as soon as the 2nd finger drops. Apr 14 13:35:23 otherwise i'd ask unwiredben directly Apr 14 13:36:06 Is that Ben Galbraith? I already sent him an e-mail, hopefully he'll get back to me. Apr 14 13:36:33 dammit...pm on the forum from 1/19. I really wish they'd get the notifications working Apr 14 13:36:35 I was actually kinda shocked that I sent feedback on the podcast and he bothered to respond. That's certainly not the norm in the development community. Apr 14 13:38:53 mausmalone: ben combee Apr 14 13:39:02 ben is developer relations director Apr 14 13:39:12 ben galbraith Apr 14 13:39:19 he's been at palm forever huh? Apr 14 13:39:26 which ben? Apr 14 13:39:40 combee Apr 14 13:39:47 at least 6000 years Apr 14 13:39:49 he came back to palm as i understand Apr 14 13:40:05 oh. i remember his from the palmOS days Apr 14 13:40:17 (name) Apr 14 13:40:29 yeah, the people at palm can be reached easily Apr 14 13:40:34 that's nice Apr 14 14:09:33 must...get....Blade Runner umbrella: http://bit.ly/cf9GyM Apr 14 14:10:17 Seriously? Apr 14 14:10:28 yeah, I love those things Apr 14 14:10:37 led's? Apr 14 14:10:47 the led shaft one, not the dot one Apr 14 14:11:03 it's only $30 Apr 14 14:11:17 er $25 Apr 14 14:11:18 even better Apr 14 14:12:58 sugardave: light saber :) Apr 14 14:13:27 I'm waiting for the real ones :D Apr 14 14:38:49 what's up webOS? Apr 14 14:38:52 if i turn off Airplane Mode in the system menu, how do I later turn off the radios on the Pre if I take a plane ride? Apr 14 14:39:50 not sure if i understand your question, mischko Apr 14 14:40:24 if you remove it from the menu? Apr 14 14:41:05 * haeffb_pre thinking about making an 'ugly women in bikinis' app Apr 14 14:41:58 hehe Apr 14 14:42:09 mischko: You just go to the System Menu and select Airplane mode again - this disables wifi and cellular radios Apr 14 14:42:11 where's myles on the hot apps by the way? Apr 14 14:42:34 around 200 Apr 14 14:44:09 mischko: alternatively shutting down the Pre from the device menu has similar effect but also shuts off your access to apps, games, but since the device goes to very low poer it preserves battery life Apr 14 14:44:13 Sorry if that last was TMI really Apr 14 14:44:45 mischko: airplane mode off/on is the same menu entry Apr 14 14:44:54 i'm sure it would be much higher if it were available in Germany... Apr 14 14:45:31 hehe Apr 14 14:45:35 i know Apr 14 14:45:42 send me those strings :) Apr 14 14:46:43 which ones? Apr 14 14:48:11 for myles Apr 14 14:48:16 so i can translate them Apr 14 14:48:23 remember our discussion? Apr 14 14:50:58 oh, I thought you were sending me something. Apr 14 14:51:39 * haeffb_pre wonders why Precentral is so anti-Palm... Apr 14 14:52:08 oh, i thought you were sending me something Apr 14 14:52:10 deadlock :) Apr 14 14:52:44 i already translated strings.json but there's more hidden in the various html-files Apr 14 14:52:56 if you can send me those strings i can translate them Apr 14 14:54:21 why would precentral be anti-palm? Apr 14 14:55:25 send me the strings.json... Apr 14 14:55:54 and that's my question. why are they? Apr 14 14:56:41 seems like they constantly predict the doom & gloom scenarios. looking for the cloud in every silver lining Apr 14 14:57:11 like todays new apps article... Apr 14 14:59:10 you want my current strings.json? Apr 14 14:59:47 yes, that will let me run it in German & see what's left in English. Apr 14 15:00:17 if you've pulled all the $L strings from .js files... Apr 14 15:00:47 allright, will do when i get back from work Apr 14 15:00:56 awesome Apr 14 15:00:57 i had a script that scraped everything from the $L Apr 14 15:01:21 hi haeffb_pre Apr 14 15:01:32 & I will eliminate any remaining strings in .html & put them in .js Apr 14 15:01:39 hi Bmyers Apr 14 15:03:07 very good haeffb Apr 14 15:03:23 hey i didnt know tine fey was on the tea party express!! Apr 14 15:03:23 you should have a german version soon Apr 14 15:04:19 bbl Apr 14 15:04:35 sweet. I will kick Bmyers' butt with an intl version!!! Apr 14 15:05:01 you're already way ahead of me :( Apr 14 15:05:16 not Apr 14 15:05:32 last night you were ahead. Apr 14 15:05:52 not when i checked Apr 14 15:06:12 i think they are going to pay leader board winners in equivelent palm stock? Apr 14 15:07:38 thats what sugardave told me anyway.. he's buying the company b4 lenovo does Apr 14 15:08:11 191 vs 194 Apr 14 15:08:21 MUH HAH AHA Apr 14 15:08:26 T=M vs myles Apr 14 15:08:37 my plan to take over the world is almost complete Apr 14 15:08:48 I don't know how often they update Apr 14 15:09:07 i think they update based on DBM Apr 14 15:09:27 (Dart Board Method) Apr 14 15:10:22 * haeffb_pre wonders how much revenue required to be #1... Apr 14 15:10:48 who's in first? go to cyrkey and see what it says Apr 14 15:11:38 cryket? whatever it is Apr 14 15:12:15 youview. 16463 dl's. $3.99 Apr 14 15:12:30 max $65k Apr 14 15:13:16 write an app, put it in the catalog for $70k. Apr 14 15:13:30 buy it & make a profit when you win. Apr 14 15:13:56 :) Apr 14 15:15:06 actually, you could profit all the way up to $300k Apr 14 15:15:33 since you get 70% back from Palm. Apr 14 15:16:19 i think i see a special ver of myles in the near future Apr 14 15:21:04 * haeffb_pre needs to review the rules again Apr 14 15:33:23 morning, all. Apr 14 15:34:09 hello chuqui Apr 14 15:36:03 hi chuqui Apr 14 15:37:11 chuqui: what is Palm's plan to prevent a developer from selling an app for $200k to win the hot apps contest? Apr 14 15:37:52 & do I have to send you an email to get 0-star reviews removed? Apr 14 15:37:56 depends on the circumstances, but we probably wouldn't allow it into the catalog. we have precedent on that. Apr 14 15:38:14 no, I'm working on the reviews today, in fact. Apr 14 15:38:29 but, but...my app is TOTALLY worth 1/4 million Apr 14 15:38:41 if you can prove that, then we'd let it in. Apr 14 15:38:58 oh, proof Apr 14 15:38:59 boo Apr 14 15:39:11 yeah, we can be picky about stuff like that. Apr 14 15:39:47 no, seriously. we've had a couple of people try the "make me rich app" game, and we didn't let them into the catalog. so making them expensive just to be expensive wouldn't fly. Apr 14 15:42:20 I just saw a few apps for $99. Apr 14 15:42:36 which is tremendously, tremendously overpriced. Apr 14 15:42:56 so i've got to find 200 friends to buy my app @ $1000 each to win. Apr 14 15:43:16 too bad I don't have 200 friends. Apr 14 15:43:31 Ovlite Unit Converter and Ovlite Shape Calculator Apr 14 15:45:14 maybe they forgot the decimal? Apr 14 15:45:37 'wonder why I haven't sold even one copy?' Apr 14 16:05:24 have any of you tried my app "iBored" ? Apr 14 16:05:33 curious to get some feedback if so Apr 14 16:06:58 is anybody doing anything with Mojo.Messaging yet? is it so super-secret you can't talk about it? Apr 14 16:10:06 i cant answer that sugardave Apr 14 16:10:31 bummer Apr 14 16:10:41 thinking about it for the module thing Apr 14 16:11:13 and to my wonderment, you cant docs on it in the sdk? Apr 14 16:11:27 I'm looking at them right now Apr 14 16:12:09 sounds fancy Apr 14 16:12:16 url Apr 14 16:12:27 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1671&Itemid=279 Apr 14 16:12:31 thx Apr 14 16:13:42 i could see some uses for that Apr 14 16:16:03 * sugardave wonders if we'll be able to make our own endpoints, too. Apr 14 16:16:58 it says you have to ASK palm and say pretty please with sugardave on top Apr 14 16:17:31 yeah, and you have to be "near production Apr 14 16:17:37 "...I wonder how near Apr 14 16:17:58 I'm at my computer where I do production. thats pretty near.. Apr 14 16:18:34 This looks like a last minute workaround to the problem they introduced last year, which was to allow all apps to pull at times of their own choosing, instead using a coordinated time (each 15 minutes for example) Apr 14 16:18:50 * sugardave is dragging his feet on the opt-out functionality for CAM. Apr 14 16:19:18 ? Apr 14 16:19:20 If you have 5 apps each polling 15 minutes, they don't use common polling times so it could end up at minute 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 which is battery wasteful Apr 14 16:20:06 Bmyers: my module that everyone is scared to try out...I want to add an opt-out feature that will wipe all traces of a phone from the system Apr 14 16:20:11 don't mind my griping (stupid initial system design) Apr 14 16:21:36 but I have to consider all the Drupal gotchas when dealing with its forms in php Apr 14 16:21:42 no takers yet? Apr 14 16:21:45 and there are a lot Apr 14 16:21:47 nope Apr 14 16:21:52 I have 3 users, but no use Apr 14 16:22:25 so I'm thinking the Mojo Messaging Service in other words is a good idea :) Apr 14 16:23:01 FreeTim, sorry had to step out. There's a patch to remove the airplane mode from the menu (which I've hit by accident and not noticed). Apr 14 16:23:18 FreeTim: agreed :D Apr 14 16:23:32 If I remove it, I'm wondering how to set up the phone when I get on a plane. Apr 14 16:24:14 mischko: I think airplane mode only turns off the phone and bt radios...gps radio is still alive (according to the patch that lets you toggle it indivdually) Apr 14 16:24:55 mischko: alternatively, can you just uninstall that patch and get airplane mode back in the menu? Apr 14 16:25:03 sugardave, that's what I'm thinking. Apr 14 16:25:14 I'd try it first Apr 14 16:25:20 So GPS has to be turned off as well when u get on a plane. Apr 14 16:25:26 There's a patch for that? Apr 14 16:25:54 well, what I mean is there is a patch that allows you to control the GPS radio from the menu, like bluetooth and wifi Apr 14 16:26:00 but if you go into airplane mode Apr 14 16:26:09 and then check the gps radio status Apr 14 16:26:10 it is on Apr 14 16:26:22 so, I'm not sure airplane mode turns off the gps radio Apr 14 16:30:58 when i go into airplane more ppl look at me funny on the bus. Apr 14 16:31:20 sugardave: it should Apr 14 16:31:58 how to find current status of gps radio? Apr 14 16:31:59 Try not to extend your arms run around and make zoom zooming noises - buses don't have a lot of room Apr 14 16:32:22 i think that was it.. freaked out some little kid and his mom Apr 14 16:33:22 Mischko: from Location Services, Preferences, Locate Me Using--> both should be unchecked = gps Off Apr 14 16:34:36 Is that exactly correct? Or does he only need Locate Me Using - GPS unchecked = gps Off ? Apr 14 16:34:45 I'm assuming Google Services uses Cellular if on Apr 14 16:38:09 I'm not sure why airplane mode would /need/ to turn off GPS Apr 14 16:38:17 GPS doesn't broadcast anything, its reception only Apr 14 16:40:36 right Apr 14 16:44:08 VincentLaw: why do we NEED to take off our shoes? Why do stewardesses NEED to be so bitchy? Apr 14 16:44:22 you have to remember the arbitrariness of it all when dealing with air fascists Apr 14 16:46:33 sugardave: I wholly agree with you. I still fly, but now if it's anywhere east coast I take the train instead. SCREW em Apr 14 16:47:32 I only fly if my job is sending me somewhere. The Freeman family are veteran road-trippers now. Apr 14 16:49:27 I just bought a 1985 Volkswagen Westfalia. I intend to do some road tripping. :) Apr 14 16:55:21 sugardave: i've not had any bitchy flight attendants actually Apr 14 16:55:38 sugardave: but shoes.. yeah. all because that one guy tried to light his shoebomb on fire Apr 14 17:05:25 the following is listening to a tap from div id "spe-t" "Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.get('spe-t'), Mojo.Event.tap, this.spellCheck.bind(this));" is that correct? Apr 14 17:41:42 haha almost pressed enter while having not having the / infront of the msg... Apr 14 17:42:05 rehi Apr 14 17:42:33 re hi ;) Apr 14 17:42:57 haeffb: sent you the german strings.json Apr 14 17:45:36 I wish the screen would turn all the way off when docked and charging. Apr 14 17:45:47 It keeps the time and unlock icon showing. Apr 14 17:46:16 mischko: I'd like to be able to turn that off to.. Apr 14 17:46:36 have it on by default but if I click "lock" I want it to not show anything Apr 14 17:46:47 but it is a nice desk clock ;) Apr 14 17:47:34 I do love Admob :) Apr 14 17:48:43 admob has low fill rates? Apr 14 17:48:59 I don't know.. I get my money and am happy.. Apr 14 17:49:16 how many impression you running a day? Apr 14 17:49:21 50k Apr 14 17:49:52 dang Apr 14 17:50:03 what app? Apr 14 17:50:15 oh per day.. Apr 14 17:50:24 50k per week sorry :( Apr 14 17:50:25 what does 50k impression get you? Apr 14 17:50:30 now I look like an asshole :D Apr 14 17:50:45 pimaster Apr 14 17:51:13 do u use any other ad networks? Apr 14 17:51:14 will release another app on saturday in the app store... hope people will like it :) Apr 14 17:51:34 Bmyers_pre: I just use the standard implementation of admob.. Apr 14 17:52:04 u get some good click thrus there? mine are not that good Apr 14 17:52:22 about 60 clicks per day Apr 14 17:52:32 or let me check Apr 14 17:52:51 more around 50 Apr 14 17:53:34 good for u. what have done with the spoils of your ad $$ Apr 14 17:53:45 big mac and fries? Apr 14 17:53:58 large fries Apr 14 17:54:49 payback the 50USD for app entry Apr 14 17:55:35 what do you do if admob has no ad for u? Apr 14 17:55:37 and that is not even fully paid Apr 14 17:55:44 i don't do anything Apr 14 17:55:54 I just don't show ads :) Apr 14 17:56:08 ever think of signing up with another ad agency ? Apr 14 17:56:21 which one? Apr 14 17:56:23 * sugardave remembers the other project idea. Apr 14 17:56:24 is there one? Apr 14 17:56:24 hmmm Apr 14 17:56:34 there is quattro wireless Apr 14 17:56:43 sugardave: mine? Apr 14 17:56:43 there is smaato (a multi-ad network one) Apr 14 17:56:49 there is something else.... Apr 14 17:56:55 iAd :) Apr 14 17:56:59 i use smaato, quattro, admob and millenium media Apr 14 17:57:14 iAd probably not coming to webos although it is all html5 Apr 14 17:57:21 i keep round robining till i get an ad Apr 14 17:57:23 Bmyers_pre: you rotate them? Apr 14 17:57:33 thomaschaaf: bs, you can roll your own if they have an API Apr 14 17:57:45 they are all ajax calls Apr 14 17:58:01 iAd will not have an API.. Apr 14 17:58:06 I don't think so Apr 14 17:59:19 iAd have an API? Please, this is Apple we're talking about here. Apr 14 17:59:23 they don't open things up to the public. Apr 14 17:59:28 I put 2 or 3 examples of the ad networks up on webos101 long ago Apr 14 17:59:37 I know at least admob and quattro are there Apr 14 17:59:43 but I can't remember the 3rd Apr 14 17:59:53 quattro any betteR? Apr 14 17:59:58 mobclix. Apr 14 18:00:12 because of this discussion I've been doing research, trying to find out what the actual pay rates are. Apr 14 18:00:35 thomaschaaf: I think they all are lame unless you have a REALLY popular app that people run for a LONG time every time they use it Apr 14 18:00:39 Kuraiou: even admob is really different Apr 14 18:00:43 well, $0 for me so far. noone has send me a check Apr 14 18:00:44 back to class Apr 14 18:01:05 when does admob pay out? Apr 14 18:01:15 the problem is, all the apps I'm thinking about doing or working on, there's just no physical space for an ad banner. Apr 14 18:01:24 and Palm itself has been good about paying me what I've earned on time. Apr 14 18:01:42 but yeah, I know that free apps definitely download waaaaaaaaay faster than paid Apr 14 18:01:47 Kuraiou: know the problem Apr 14 18:01:59 I almost wish I'd put Dice Roller up for free, but then, well, I wouldn't have made any money on it XD Apr 14 18:02:24 actually, there is space for ads on dice roller..... but it's too late now. ah well. Apr 14 18:02:50 dice roller lite Apr 14 18:02:58 so how many people here are pissed that the dev price thingy got extendend to end of july? Apr 14 18:03:01 die roller :D Apr 14 18:03:04 just one Apr 14 18:03:19 end of june Apr 14 18:03:22 dev price thingie? Apr 14 18:03:25 whatever.. Apr 14 18:03:25 thomaschaaf: doesn't bother me, but I'm not competing Apr 14 18:03:27 why should we be pissed Apr 14 18:03:29 palm hot apps Apr 14 18:03:50 * sugardave has eyes on a bigger prize. Apr 14 18:03:54 don't really think many devs will jump on now... Apr 14 18:04:24 sugardave, hows your hostile take-over of palm going? Apr 14 18:04:24 very hard to get on the 20 most downloaded apps Apr 14 18:04:29 Seems like if you don't have an app in already it'd be pretty hard to get anywhere significant even with the extended deadline Apr 14 18:04:53 the threshold is 11000 downloads or $513 Apr 14 18:05:06 sugardave: honestly, I was thinking of doing a demo Apr 14 18:05:12 i usually have 2000 downloads for every release Apr 14 18:05:16 swisstomcat: that's why I am releasing another app :D Apr 14 18:05:19 but I couldn't figure out what functionality was okay to rip out Apr 14 18:05:34 but really Apr 14 18:05:42 could you say "here's a die roller, but you can't use the d20." Apr 14 18:05:56 $513, eesh Apr 14 18:06:16 lifetime Mind Master has made more than that, but not in the window that matters Apr 14 18:07:17 Bmyers_pre: Palm takeover is progressing, all in due time Apr 14 18:07:29 make an app that costs $50000 .. download it yourself .. get $100000 Apr 14 18:08:08 IF your credit card can handle a $50K purchase AND if chuqui hadn't already put the kaibash on that plan ;) Apr 14 18:08:18 they'll never know.. your secret is safe with us.. Apr 14 18:08:48 another idea .. i'll make an app for $9999 Apr 14 18:08:53 i'll pay you to buy it Apr 14 18:08:54 you'll have to split it 94 way.. Apr 14 18:10:14 sent you the strings, haeffb Apr 14 18:10:29 oh, cool...getting Beatles Rock Band for $20...awesome Apr 14 18:10:51 thanks swisstomcat Apr 14 18:15:20 who is staying where during the developer days? Apr 14 18:16:24 I wounder how many people are going to go to the dev days... would be amazed if more than like 100 people came Apr 14 18:16:46 non palm people Apr 14 18:16:46 Thing is filled up already, isn't it? Apr 14 18:16:47 they said they had to expand Apr 14 18:17:06 pretty much filled up apparently Apr 14 18:17:11 what's that dev day stuff ? Apr 14 18:17:17 palm developer day Apr 14 18:17:32 http://developer.palm.com/ Apr 14 18:17:39 april 23/24 Apr 14 18:17:50 I'll be staying at my mom's house in Gainesville, TX. :( Apr 14 18:18:02 haha nice :D Apr 14 18:18:09 southwest not an option for ya? Apr 14 18:18:39 well, it's a long road to Sunnyvale he he Apr 14 18:18:41 no, it's a committment thing...we have to go up there and visit. all pre-ordained Apr 14 18:19:26 leo__: where ya from? Apr 14 18:19:35 France Apr 14 18:19:36 :) Apr 14 18:19:40 I hope Palm weathers the buyout rumors and I can make it to the next one Apr 14 18:19:45 leo__: awesome - germany here Apr 14 18:19:58 anyone here ready to do some translation trading? Apr 14 18:20:03 * swisstomcat is going .. very long flight Apr 14 18:20:16 thomaschaaf, sure, what kind of translation ? Apr 14 18:20:17 what are you trading? Apr 14 18:20:33 german and english want spanish and french :D Apr 14 18:20:42 I am native to the first two Apr 14 18:21:01 can do french Apr 14 18:21:03 leo__: Pimaster Apr 14 18:21:29 it's like 15 strings but they are not really google translateable :P Apr 14 18:21:37 alright Apr 14 18:21:41 where can i get it ? Apr 14 18:22:01 app cataloge Apr 14 18:22:12 it's actually "Pi master", at least in the US Market Apr 14 18:22:15 is there a link to the ipk on the app catalog ? Apr 14 18:22:18 it got an update today and is not avaialble in frnace maybe :( Apr 14 18:22:26 when I did a search for "pimaster" in the catalog I got nothing x.x Apr 14 18:22:33 http://www.cyrket.com/p/palm/de.komola.pi/ Apr 14 18:22:33 just send the ipk Apr 14 18:22:45 wait Apr 14 18:23:18 don't have a phone, so your link doesn't help me Apr 14 18:23:18 ;) Apr 14 18:23:25 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5910/de.komola.pi_1.1.4_all.ipk hehe 1.1.4 (1.1.3 in app catalog) Apr 14 18:23:50 you can install the ipk on the emulator, leo Apr 14 18:25:45 leo__: I'd give you the strings.json though Apr 14 18:26:28 sugardave: you can go to sunnyvale,TX :) Apr 14 18:27:17 somehow, it's just not the same :D Apr 14 18:27:53 sugardave: it's all in your head ;) Apr 14 18:28:18 ask for palm hq Apr 14 18:28:58 leo__ need help? Apr 14 18:29:56 no Apr 14 18:30:11 but i'll need to play a little to see if the translation feels ok Apr 14 18:30:55 swisstomcat: would you mind asking the guys at palm when you are there whether it would be possible to get access to the same functionality so you can use your phone as the input device and be able to project it onto a screen some how? am doing a presentation soonish and would love to hold the device in my hand and not have to fiddle around with the emualtor and a mouse Apr 14 18:31:28 it's 3.14159265... Apr 14 18:31:47 leo__: you can use the keypad too Apr 14 18:31:49 i remember a thread in the developer forums with that question, tomasschaaf Apr 14 18:32:21 3.141592654 Apr 14 18:32:28 that's the best I can remember Apr 14 18:32:36 :) Apr 14 18:32:39 leo__: yea I suck with this number laybout Apr 14 18:33:02 leo__: so would you be so kind and translate the string.json for? Apr 14 18:33:07 if I send it to you? Apr 14 18:33:22 you can get a link to your app if you want Apr 14 18:44:18 it's already done Apr 14 18:44:25 question is how do have french selected Apr 14 18:44:30 seems like it's stick to english Apr 14 18:44:53 I created a fr_fr directory, copy of de_de, and translated the json file Apr 14 18:45:16 resources\fr should be enough Apr 14 18:45:40 wth how did you get the json file? Apr 14 18:47:10 well, the german one was named de_de.. Apr 14 18:47:12 let's see Apr 14 18:47:25 you also need to set the correct language in the emulator Apr 14 18:47:27 how do i select the langage/locale settings in webos ? Apr 14 18:47:36 Regionalsettings Apr 14 18:47:40 last page Apr 14 18:47:55 well, where is that ? Apr 14 18:48:08 only have 5 icons at the bottom Apr 14 18:48:13 none seems to look like prefs/settings Apr 14 18:48:27 last icon Apr 14 18:48:28 you should be able to go left and right by dragging in the main area Apr 14 18:48:33 oh yea :D Apr 14 18:48:44 the arrow pointing u Apr 14 18:48:45