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Apr 17 03:04:50 <JenP> hi all!
Apr 17 03:05:06 <zsoc> yallo
Apr 17 03:05:33 <JenP> hey zsoc how's it going?
Apr 17 03:06:28 <zsoc> good :)
Apr 17 03:06:38 <zsoc> got the kinks worked out of my app, should be in the testing feeds soon
Apr 17 03:07:01 <JenP> that's great
Apr 17 03:07:26 <zsoc> yeah it's a good feeling
Apr 17 03:07:29 <zsoc> what are you up to?
Apr 17 03:07:53 <JenP> getting off work...settling into a little coding. Nothing too big
Apr 17 03:08:18 <zsoc> fun :>
Apr 17 03:08:32 <JenP> smiles..yeah
Apr 17 04:02:54 <Roy-Pre101> lemketron-away: wow, heading home early today. :)
Apr 17 05:41:34 <yoshiness> I want to program a 3D game. Is hand-programming in OpenGL really the only way to do so?
Apr 17 06:48:28 <rbredow> Palm's review queue is moving quickly these days.  My recent submission posted after only about 40 hours.  Nice.
Apr 17 07:15:43 <rbredow> Quiet in here lately.
Apr 17 07:17:23 <warpdesign> yep
Apr 17 07:38:59 <yoshiness> good evening
Apr 17 09:56:26 <warpdesign> anyone alive ?
Apr 17 09:58:07 <rwhitby> nope
Apr 17 11:41:46 <warpdesign> is there a way to access battery %age in mojo ?
Apr 17 12:45:48 <haeffb> good morning #webOS
Apr 17 12:54:07 <warpdesign> hi
Apr 17 12:54:42 <haeffb> hi warpdesign. what's up this morning?
Apr 17 12:55:06 <warpdesign> well, it's 3pm here ;)
Apr 17 12:55:11 <warpdesign> but still the morning for me
Apr 17 12:55:17 <warpdesign> I'm working on my future app
Apr 17 12:57:10 <benluo> cool
Apr 17 12:57:15 <benluo> it's 9pm in china
Apr 17 12:59:27 <haeffb> 7:59 am CDT
Apr 17 13:00:01 <haeffb> trying to get my app finished.
Apr 17 13:05:20 <haeffb> Bmyers
Apr 17 13:05:28 <Bmyers> morn'n
Apr 17 13:06:01 <haeffb> apparently it's 9pm in China
Apr 17 13:06:07 <haeffb> and 3pm somewhere else.
Apr 17 13:06:28 <Bmyers> china can kiss my onshore butt
Apr 17 13:07:18 <Bmyers> guyrules got rejected for the app cat
Apr 17 13:07:37 <Bmyers> the ole "forgot to remove or enable default app menu items" trick
Apr 17 13:07:39 <haeffb> really?
Apr 17 13:07:47 <Bmyers> stupid mistake on my part
Apr 17 13:07:51 <haeffb> ah. I hate when that happens.
Apr 17 13:07:59 <Bmyers> you should have caught the error and told me to fix it
Apr 17 13:08:05 <Bmyers> so basically its your fault
Apr 17 13:08:22 <haeffb> I don't understand my emu anymore.
Apr 17 13:08:41 <Bmyers> hows your german coming along?
Apr 17 13:11:03 <Bmyers> i'm hackintoshing my ole dell desktop. so far no good
Apr 17 13:11:58 <haeffb> do you have time this am to help debug?
Apr 17 13:12:30 <Bmyers> debug what?
Apr 17 13:12:38 <Bmyers> i thought you shipped done!
Apr 17 13:12:54 <haeffb> it's posted to precentral.
Apr 17 13:13:10 <haeffb> but if it's still not working for you, I'd like to figure out why...
Apr 17 13:13:23 <haeffb> it's not yet available on precentral. 1.5 days later.
Apr 17 13:13:31 <Bmyers> :)
Apr 17 13:13:46 <haeffb> I really think those guys don't like Palm and webOS.
Apr 17 13:14:09 <Bmyers> it is what it is..
Apr 17 13:14:32 <Bmyers> a pitiful market share prolly doesnt help that outlook
Apr 17 13:14:35 <haeffb> maybe they just go too far to show they're not "fanboys"
Apr 17 13:14:52 <haeffb> they don't help any.
Apr 17 13:15:23 <Bmyers> you store my username in pw in cookies?>
Apr 17 13:17:36 <haeffb> yes
Apr 17 13:17:58 <haeffb> don't let your phone fall into the hands of the KGB.
Apr 17 13:18:49 <Bmyers> ok. my trip to russia was canceled due to volcanic plume anyway..
Apr 17 13:25:53 <Bmyers> haeffb i have to head now but will be back tonight.
Apr 17 13:26:49 <haeffb> laters
Apr 17 14:34:24 <ddluk> Hi all
Apr 17 14:35:05 <haeffb> hello
Apr 17 14:35:45 <ddluk> I've got a problem. I tried to do something like that if (this.toggle.value = on) { this.audioPlayer.play();} else { } but it doesn't work. Could you help me with that case ?
Apr 17 14:36:48 <bpadalino> do you mean == for comparison, or = for assignment ?
Apr 17 14:37:28 <ddluk> ==
Apr 17 14:37:59 <bpadalino> is it always failing the condition ?
Apr 17 14:39:49 <ddluk> no always, i user stwich state of toggle to off it should not play sound, if user swtich toggle to on is should play
Apr 17 14:42:04 <haeffb> is the problem with your if condition statement? or with the audioPlayer.play()?
Apr 17 14:42:36 <ddluk> with my if condition, when I leave that if sound is playing
Apr 17 14:43:13 <haeffb> what does your setupWidget for the toggle look like?
Apr 17 14:44:25 <ddluk> this.toggle = { trueValue:'on', trueLabel:'Enabled', falseValue:'off', falseLabel:'Disabled' };
Apr 17 14:44:25 <ddluk> this.toggleModel = { value:'off', disabled:false };
Apr 17 14:44:25 <ddluk> this.controller.setupWidget('aktywacja', this.toggle, this.toggleModel);
Apr 17 14:46:53 <haeffb> you need to use if (this.toggleModel.value === 'on')
Apr 17 14:53:32 <ddluk> Thank you very much :) It's working now.
Apr 17 14:57:54 <JenP> hi all
Apr 17 14:58:45 <haeffb> hey JenP
Apr 17 14:58:57 <JenP> hi haeffb!
Apr 17 15:00:48 <ddluk> I've got a second question, how Can I loop the sound in audioPlayer ??
Apr 17 15:09:25 <haeffb> do not know.
Apr 17 15:09:55 <ddluk> I look into documentation but there is no info about that
Apr 17 15:10:15 <haeffb> JenP: emailing you current version of Done. Take a look sometime when you have a chance & let me know what you think.
Apr 17 15:10:30 <JenP> awesome!
Apr 17 15:17:51 <JenP> haeffb: It looks really good! I've got to run some errands but i'll play with it more when I get back
Apr 17 15:18:56 <haeffb> rightey-o
Apr 17 15:19:07 <JenP> kk ttyl
Apr 17 17:02:46 <warpdesign> hmm.. sounds like we already have a buyer..
Apr 17 17:10:31 <haeffb> buyer for what?
Apr 17 18:48:05 <sugardave> hmm, I wonder who backs Interpidus
Apr 17 18:48:11 <sugardave> Intrepidus
Apr 17 18:49:04 <swisstomcat> evening
Apr 17 19:13:25 <swisstomcat> ping roy-pre101
Apr 17 19:28:33 <LoneStar99> walking away from coding
Apr 17 19:28:52 <bpadalino> don't walk .. run!
Apr 17 19:29:00 <LoneStar99> gonna make good wine
Apr 17 19:33:17 <LoneStar99> Just though for 10 years it would be awesome, but it never let me live like i though it would. but webos is the best system for mobile devices
Apr 17 19:33:59 <LoneStar99> wish i could buy plam
Apr 17 19:34:19 <LoneStar99> palm
Apr 17 19:37:37 <LoneStar99> most people do not know but apple was almost died, it got an investment from microsoft for 600mill, look at apple now
Apr 17 19:40:08 <rohit2> hello,, is there any spreadsheet application for palm?
Apr 17 19:40:33 <LoneStar99> i think palm should sell to nokia
Apr 17 19:41:24 <haeffb> rohit2: there is a spreadsheet viewer.
Apr 17 19:42:05 <rohit2> what is the name of the spreadsheet viewer? I want to give it a try..
Apr 17 19:54:42 <BigBiff> afternoon webosers
Apr 17 19:55:45 <LoneStar99> nokia is brilliant company with old technology
Apr 17 19:57:00 <BigBiff> hmmm
Apr 17 19:57:33 <BigBiff> how can i cycel through multiple arrays (for ajax requests) without concat()
Apr 17 19:57:36 <BigBiff> cycle
Apr 17 19:59:07 <BigBiff> i need this.list.a = somearray[],    this.list.b = otherarray[]
Apr 17 19:59:25 <BigBiff> then call the ajax function with send(this.list)
Apr 17 19:59:30 <BigBiff> does that make sense?
Apr 17 20:00:23 <BigBiff> i dont really want to concat(), cause i need them to remain intact as individual arrays
Apr 17 20:14:38 <haeffb> this.list = [];
Apr 17 20:14:50 <haeffb> this.list.push(somearray);
Apr 17 20:14:56 <haeffb> this.list.push(otherarray)
Apr 17 20:15:14 <haeffb> & you still have somearray and otherarray as separate arrays.
Apr 17 20:27:01 <BigBiff> ya, im gonna have to split em either way
Apr 17 20:27:12 <BigBiff> i got it now
Apr 17 20:27:25 <BigBiff> just more verbose than i was hoping
Apr 17 21:03:48 <BigBiff> wow my ajax moves slow
Apr 17 21:04:01 <BigBiff> 2 requests per item (43 items)
Apr 17 21:05:12 <BigBiff> takes 12 seconds
Apr 17 21:05:29 <BigBiff> does that soud right?
Apr 17 21:05:39 <BigBiff> thats off wifi
Apr 17 21:05:40 <BigBiff> not 3g
Apr 17 21:29:09 <Tibfib> haha http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1271516036148RA73
Apr 17 21:32:50 <Tibfib> it takes a while to load but it is definitely worth watching
Apr 17 22:16:20 <BigBiff> hmmm
Apr 17 22:16:43 <BigBiff> whadya think?  is 12 seconds too long for 86 ajax requests?
Apr 17 22:17:04 <BigBiff> or does that show a problem with my script
Apr 17 22:17:05 <zsoc> progress bar ftw
Apr 17 22:17:10 <BigBiff> ya, got that
Apr 17 22:17:28 <BigBiff> just didnt know if that response time is typical
Apr 17 22:18:05 <BigBiff> and i really need to do about 4 times that many
Apr 17 22:18:33 <BigBiff> nah, i should split it up somehow
Apr 17 22:19:02 <BigBiff> go syncronously in groups
Apr 17 22:46:33 <rohit2> what is the difference between palm webOS and palmOS
Apr 17 22:46:44 <rohit2> are there apps compatible?
Apr 17 22:46:46 <bpadalino> no
Apr 17 22:46:50 <bpadalino> and about everything
Apr 17 22:53:00 <Tibfib> they are not similar at all. Just think of them as made by different companies
Apr 17 22:53:24 <rohit2> ok..
Apr 17 22:54:41 <VincentLaw> you can run PalmOS apps on WebOS using the Classic app however, which is basically a PalmOS emulator
Apr 17 23:22:23 <zsoc> haeffb: you.. give me... palm debug syntax again pls?
Apr 17 23:23:59 <haeffb> debug?
Apr 17 23:24:11 <haeffb> palm-log -d tcp -f com.my.app ?
Apr 17 23:24:14 <zsoc> yeah, to debug apps running on the emu
Apr 17 23:24:14 <zsoc> ty
Apr 17 23:49:33 <zsoc> can you disable a toggle?
Apr 17 23:50:19 <zsoc> and does it disable all labels i assume?
Apr 17 23:50:27 <zsoc> er, s/labels/items/
Apr 17 23:50:41 <zsoc> model items that is
Apr 18 00:51:06 <BigBiff> ok, so
Apr 18 00:51:31 <BigBiff> whats the advantages to webkit for div container as opposed to me just creating the same image in photoshop?
Apr 18 00:51:37 <BigBiff> or are there any
Apr 18 00:52:12 <BigBiff> webkit - primarily borders, yes?
Apr 18 02:05:51 <ianbeck> Anyone have suggestions for good examples or tutorials on building data models for WebOS apps?
Apr 18 02:06:05 <ianbeck> Or will I need to read the source in the bundled applications?
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