with up to two images and some text. Apr 27 18:03:42 170x170 Apr 27 18:03:46 er sorry Apr 27 18:03:48 140x140 Apr 27 18:05:03 at worst, I'll find out as I'll code it :) Apr 27 18:08:08 weird Apr 27 18:08:16 but.. "dragged" nodes . Apr 27 18:08:17 ? Apr 27 18:10:56 okay, so the admob site is pretty slick. Apr 27 18:11:07 hey Adora. how was Developer Days? Apr 27 18:11:21 Adora be crazy Apr 27 18:11:31 millenomi: we're a pretty lurk-y club already <.< Apr 27 18:19:22 grrrrrrr Apr 27 18:19:30 i know im close here Apr 27 18:19:54 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=6777 Apr 27 18:21:10 how can i isolate the button in a list row for its own tap Apr 27 18:22:16 warpdesign: a node whose position changes depending on events (namely drag events). Apr 27 18:22:26 * oilsworkn has always done it by checking the originalEvent.target Apr 27 18:22:43 aka: drag icon in launcher. Apr 27 18:24:46 BigBiff: what do you mean isolate? Apr 27 18:25:04 well i have one button in one of my rows Apr 27 18:25:16 setup in the row template Apr 27 18:25:37 if i tap the button, the listTap event fires Apr 27 18:25:45 are you listening to listTap event? Apr 27 18:26:01 hmmm. Apr 27 18:26:03 well, ive tried several methods Apr 27 18:26:09 have you tried hit detection? Apr 27 18:26:10 event.originalEvent.target Apr 27 18:26:12 listTap listener, look at event.originalEvent.target, and determine if that is the button or not Apr 27 18:26:28 first! Apr 27 18:26:41 okdoke Apr 27 18:26:50 :) Apr 27 18:26:51 i said it 4 mins ago haeffb_pre :) Apr 27 18:27:54 gotta say it out loud or it doesn't count! Apr 27 18:28:02 psh Apr 27 18:29:09 heh - didnt realize you were talkin to me oilsworkn Apr 27 18:29:13 i c that now Apr 27 18:29:37 hello Apr 27 18:29:44 * oilsworkn will even link to an example :) Apr 27 18:29:46 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/wIRC.git;a=blob;f=app/assistants/server-list-assistant.js;h=1ad969c4373464eb6c1d6513c77b0eae85b432ee;hb=HEAD#l139 Apr 27 18:29:54 is how wirc figures out what you tapped from the main scene Apr 27 18:33:32 wow, -webkit-transform: translate() also changes hit testing for events! Apr 27 18:33:45 + future accelerated transforms = <3 Apr 27 18:38:25 ok - determined - button is being targeted Apr 27 18:38:29 \o/ Apr 27 18:40:28 halfhalo_class: able to check out that ajax call for the php json? Apr 27 18:41:19 ahhh, so i should try in the listTap function - if originalEvent.className= mybutton, then do something -- yes? Apr 27 18:41:40 that works Apr 27 18:43:46 Or anyone else that's around... can I get some help with this: http://webos.pastebin.com/ibi1hvAG Apr 27 18:43:54 ajax call to php script Apr 27 18:43:57 event.originalEvent... Apr 27 18:44:48 nifty: 1.4.1 supports -webkit-transform and handles events correctly on transformed DOM nodes Apr 27 18:44:50 event.originalEvent.target.className Apr 27 18:44:52 there, I'll use that. Apr 27 18:45:28 wow - it worked - i really thought it would be much more complicated than that Apr 27 18:45:36 thx oilsworkn Apr 27 18:45:47 np Apr 27 18:46:03 i was expecting appendtoBiffsChild * 15 functions Apr 27 18:46:30 that's killer Apr 27 19:03:19 zinge: so you're not getting any results at all with that? Apr 27 19:04:33 Nope. It doesn't show the error dialog. Apr 27 19:07:10 zinge: can I see the PHP? Apr 27 19:07:32 you may want to use post instead of get, and I don't think you want evalJSON on Apr 27 19:07:57 * halfhalo_class got superbusy at work and hasn't had time for irc Apr 27 19:08:20 er, nvm, that defaults to true Apr 27 19:08:23 so you don't have to explicitly set it. Apr 27 19:08:43 are the results you're returning from the PHP valid JSON? Apr 27 19:10:11 Looks like it to me... http://bmcstudiosllc.com/starmap/mobile_auth.php?username=test Apr 27 19:12:39 uhhh Apr 27 19:12:45 when I tried to go to that page it asked me to download the response. Apr 27 19:12:49 what content headers are you setting? Apr 27 19:12:51 correct Apr 27 19:12:52 json Apr 27 19:13:04 I guess Palm doesnt like apps that have elitist content and offensive language. Apr 27 19:13:18 especially in wev distrobution Apr 27 19:13:25 web Apr 27 19:13:43 header('Content-type: application/json'); Apr 27 19:14:30 that looks like valid json to me... and you printed out the plaintext response? Apr 27 19:14:34 and got the json? Apr 27 19:14:55 From the app? Apr 27 19:16:39 * halfhalo_class points out header should be text/json Apr 27 19:16:59 json/application is trying to be run as an app Apr 27 19:17:34 oops Apr 27 19:19:01 crap.... class in 10 min, gotta catch the shuttle. Thanks for the help... I'll be back on later, possibly in class depending on whats going on. Apr 27 19:33:28 ok next question - Apr 27 19:34:38 is it possible to have this.controller.get(#{somethingfromlisttemplate}) Apr 27 19:35:00 not sure how to reference that element Apr 27 19:36:43 grrr Apr 27 19:36:54 my mbp is being wonky Apr 27 19:38:08 nvmd - i thought i didnt have it - i did Apr 27 19:38:19 wonky is a great word Apr 27 19:40:40 hi again Apr 27 19:41:09 Changed content type to 'text/json' Apr 27 19:42:40 Any other suggestions? Apr 27 19:44:10 Trying to view the text return was mentioned... how do I do that? Apr 27 19:46:19 fixed! Apr 27 19:48:27 I want to to thank the academy, as well as halfhalo and Kuraiou.... Apr 27 19:49:44 \o/ Apr 27 19:50:25 anyways, ajaxContent.responseText to get the plaintext Apr 27 19:50:34 yup, found it Apr 27 19:50:36 hehe. Apr 27 19:50:40 prototype is nifty :) Apr 27 19:50:48 1.7 RC1 came out recently, too Apr 27 19:51:53 Anything new and exciting? Apr 27 19:52:17 http://www.prototypejs.org/2010/4/5/prototype-1-7-rc1-sizzle-layout-dimensions-api-event-delegation-and-more Apr 27 19:52:30 danke Apr 27 19:53:04 completely new selector engine, and Element.on Apr 27 19:54:19 fancy Apr 27 19:54:36 I really need to learn javascript properly one of these days Apr 27 19:56:29 Instead of just faking it and learning things as they come up Apr 27 19:57:32 Hmm... almost working. responseText works now, and it didn't before. Which means I'm actually getting returns from the php page. The question is, why can't I read the JSON? Apr 27 19:57:46 should be responseJSON.parameter, correct? Apr 27 20:02:39 maybe? Apr 27 20:03:06 Automatically evals the content of Ajax.Response#responseText and populates Ajax.Response#responseJSON with it if the content-type returned by the server is set to application/json. If the request doesn't obey SOP, the content is sanitized before evaluation. If you need to force evalutation, pass 'force'. To prevent it altogether, pass false. Apr 27 20:03:25 so apparently application/json is what it should be for responseJSON to work x.x Apr 27 20:03:39 you could just do Object.toJSON(ajaxResponse.responseText) Apr 27 20:03:39 Kuraiou: trying that now... Apr 27 20:03:40 * Kuraiou shrugs Apr 27 20:04:00 and if that returns a bogus value then run the response through a json parser and see what's up. Apr 27 20:04:23 ah-hah! Apr 27 20:04:24 Alternatively, if the response holds a X-JSON header, its content will be parsed, saved as an object and sent to the callbacks as the second argument: Apr 27 20:04:26 Kuraiou: you ar ea lifesaver Apr 27 20:04:50 application/json fixed it Apr 27 20:04:50 so if you do: Apr 27 20:04:51 header('X-JSON', $json) Apr 27 20:05:00 then you can keep the content type to text/json I think Apr 27 20:05:22 http://www.prototypejs.org/learn/introduction-to-ajax <- about halfway down Apr 27 20:05:54 I found that page and had it before, but when it wasn't working for other reasons, I changed it to text/json for testing when halfhalo mentioned it. Apr 27 20:07:16 aaannndddd... I'm an idiot. Since I got it working, I was going to post my code on the webos-internals wiki, along with explanations on what didn't work, etc. It's all there already. Apr 27 20:07:26 Note to self: check the friggin' wiki next time. Apr 27 20:08:21 haha Apr 27 20:08:52 ewww wikis **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 27 20:11:59 2010 Apr 27 20:12:34 The answer to that is: not my firefox window. It dissapeared somewhere on one of my spaces Apr 27 20:13:00 That's your own fault for using spaces. Apr 27 20:13:04 * zinge uses tabs. Apr 27 20:24:01 hey halfhalo_T400, that staticThis thing you mentioned... where are you defining it? Apr 27 20:24:08 constructor Apr 27 20:26:45 hmm... okay. My problem is, trying to push a scene with this.controller.stageController.pushScene from within the ajaxrequest callback function Apr 27 20:26:47 ideas? Apr 27 20:27:54 * halfhalo_T400 will get back to you as soon as he can Apr 27 20:28:08 zinge: what is the problem, it won't work? Apr 27 20:28:37 Correct. Works fine outside the callback, but it just ignored within it, leading me to assume its a "this" problem. Apr 27 20:30:03 http://webos.pastebin.com/eVyHJNMA Apr 27 20:30:25 hmm it should work Apr 27 20:30:39 try removing stageController and just have this.controller Apr 27 20:31:14 nada Apr 27 20:31:25 It works fine outside the callback Apr 27 20:31:29 weird Apr 27 20:31:56 is userInfo defined somewhere? Apr 27 20:32:13 yeah, all the rest of that works fine. Apr 27 20:32:29 I can replace the pushscene with a dialog box or something and there are no problems Apr 27 20:32:50 tried Mojo.Controller instead of this? Apr 27 20:33:07 err Mojo.Controller instead of this.controller Apr 27 20:33:45 Doh! Apr 27 20:34:02 Thanks Tibfib, you were right about userinfo. defined in a different function Apr 27 20:34:11 I copied/pasted without thinking Apr 27 20:34:28 heh, no problem. happens to me all the time Apr 27 20:36:07 ditto <.< Apr 27 20:36:24 man, the pacing between free and paid apps -- even lowest-cost paid apps -- is just frikken unreal. Apr 27 20:37:09 dangit... I don't think my countdown puzzles app is going to stay in the top 221 by the end Apr 27 20:37:40 it would have if they hadn't extended it... !$#$#%! Apr 27 20:38:18 :( Apr 27 20:38:39 lame sauce... I think I'm going to make a precentral topic on it in the regular forums Apr 27 21:18:06 ok Apr 27 21:18:17 i sorta do want the 1.4.1.1 vzw update, but sorta don't Apr 27 21:40:17 why wouldn't you want it? Apr 27 21:41:07 because of this Apr 27 21:41:07 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=6777 Apr 27 21:42:06 so you just have to do it twice? Apr 27 21:44:35 don't judge me. I'm lazy. And I have to meta-doctor both as well Apr 27 22:42:39 We're gonna have a Spaz Hackathon on May 8th. We'd love to have your help! http://bit.ly/9eDqDS Apr 28 00:10:55 whats the css for pass thru? Apr 28 00:24:03 what's pass thru? Apr 28 00:25:02 theres a magical css class you can use that allows taps to pass through the object to underneath Apr 28 00:25:28 i need to use it for an overlay so stuff still works but theres still something over the whole scene Apr 28 00:25:48 i found it but it doesnt work Apr 28 00:25:53 -webkit-palm-mouse-target: ignore; Apr 28 00:56:38 * haeffb spent the last two days preparing for a visit by a dignitary. Apr 28 00:57:38 what do you think is better? Apr 28 00:57:52 crippled? or crippled w/ time limit? Apr 28 00:58:00 making a trial version of my swap&drop game Apr 28 00:58:12 crippled how? Apr 28 00:58:16 less features Apr 28 00:58:20 one level? Apr 28 00:58:36 pretty much Apr 28 00:58:46 that works for me Apr 28 00:58:47 only 1 game mode, limited options, no score saving Apr 28 00:59:02 i was thinking of making it only allow you run the app for 2minutes at a time Apr 28 00:59:09 nah. Apr 28 00:59:20 too much? Apr 28 00:59:22 for your game, don't let them go to another leve. Apr 28 00:59:24 l. Apr 28 00:59:44 no need for a time limit Apr 28 00:59:48 thanks Apr 28 01:00:02 they're not gonna need 10 minutes to finish one level Apr 28 01:00:17 and that's more than enough to figure out how the game works Apr 28 01:35:53 hi all Apr 28 01:39:23 Hello JenP Apr 28 01:39:33 hi catalystmedia Apr 28 01:42:11 hey jenp Apr 28 01:42:20 hi haeffb! Apr 28 01:42:51 what's new? Apr 28 01:43:08 not much...happy to be home before 7..so it's a good day Apr 28 01:43:10 you? Apr 28 01:44:26 pretty much same Apr 28 01:44:39 although it's now almost 9 here... :) Apr 28 01:44:47 did you get those thumbnails for the icon? Apr 28 01:46:01 ah, yes. Apr 28 01:52:33 halfhalo_T400: ping Apr 28 01:52:43 pineapple? Apr 28 01:53:19 WHY DOES THIS LOOP NOT WORK Apr 28 01:53:50 halfhalo_T400: can i be so bold as to re-ask for an explanation or example of how to carry a this.controller.ModelChanged through an asynchronous context? Apr 28 01:54:06 I'll look at your loop lol Apr 28 01:54:19 you really don't want to look at my loop Apr 28 01:54:31 and in the scene constructor make staticThis=this Apr 28 01:54:32 I would like my brain to melt out of my eyes Apr 28 01:54:45 then just go staticThis.controller.ModelChanged Apr 28 01:54:58 PREPARE FOR HURT Apr 28 01:54:59 BR main counter: .BLOCK 2 temp: .BLOCK 2 LDA 1,d main: DECI counter,d ;Get the number were going to run the loop LDA counter,d loop: BRLE end CHARI temp,d LDA counter,s ADDA 1,i STA counter,s BR loop end: .END Apr 28 01:55:07 halfhalo_T400: er.. wouldn't that globalize /every/ 'this' context? seems bloated Apr 28 01:55:20 halfhalo_T400: is that in cobolt? ool Apr 28 01:55:27 noish yes Apr 28 01:55:41 staticThis is just a name for the scene's global this Apr 28 01:55:49 no performance penalty Apr 28 01:56:03 and by 'constructor' you mean the setup() or in the stage assistant? Apr 28 01:56:12 setup in scene Apr 28 01:56:14 ok Apr 28 01:56:17 will try, ty Apr 28 01:56:30 and the code I posted is ASM for pep/8 Apr 28 01:57:01 zsoc: just pass a controller along to the async fcn Apr 28 01:57:11 or .bind(this) to the async function Apr 28 01:57:34 or save a ref to "this" as halfhalo_T400 suggests Apr 28 01:57:57 or probably half a dozen other ways to skin the cat. Apr 28 01:58:40 haeffb: I would like to know all ways of doing such. How would I 'pass a controller along'? (keep in mind I have minimum understanding of what '.controller.' represents Apr 28 01:59:43 what is your async function? Apr 28 02:00:20 haeffb: its an onSuccess of a call to my service (which does not return for some time) Apr 28 02:01:09 myservice(a, b, onSuccess: function () {...}); ? Apr 28 02:01:29 yes Apr 28 02:02:05 myservice = function (a, b, c) {..., onSuccess: {}}' Apr 28 02:02:29 i.e. how do you call service? Apr 28 02:03:04 your service is not javascript, right? Apr 28 02:03:06 this.controller.serviceRequest Apr 28 02:04:20 argh. I was just asking about that yesterday. I can't get a callback function passed thru a serviceRequest. Apr 28 02:04:38 what do you mean? Apr 28 02:04:49 i do it... many times in my app.. it's in the webos-internals git if you want to look at it Apr 28 02:06:34 for instance: http://www.pastie.org/938458 Apr 28 02:07:22 in the handleLaunch of my appAssistant, params.syncCallback doesn't exist. Apr 28 02:07:53 uh... Apr 28 02:08:09 i'm not sure that's a valid json parameter? Apr 28 02:08:27 well...uh...ok. Apr 28 02:08:38 but how else to pass a callback function to the serviceRequest? Apr 28 02:09:45 define 'callback function'? You mean you just want to notify or call a function when the serviceRequest is done? Apr 28 02:11:04 I mean I want it to pass that function along thru the serviceRequest, which relaunches the app with the parameters in params. One of which is a function. Which I can then call from within the handleLaunch. Apr 28 02:11:16 or pass along to some other function, to call from there. Apr 28 02:11:39 * haeffb is not making much sense. Apr 28 02:11:59 i chalked that up to my lack of understanding Apr 28 02:12:01 give it another shot? Apr 28 02:12:38 I have a function in my sceneAssistant. Apr 28 02:12:46 * halfhalo_T400 is snapping Apr 28 02:12:54 finishSync() Apr 28 02:13:00 k Apr 28 02:13:43 my serviceRequest causes ApplicationManager to relaunch my app Apr 28 02:13:52 odd Apr 28 02:13:54 but ok Apr 28 02:14:01 and passes "params" to my apps handleLaunch method Apr 28 02:14:11 it's not odd. it's how alarms work. Apr 28 02:14:34 haeffb: that's where you got my goose Apr 28 02:14:37 well, may be odd, but it's not...unnatural... Apr 28 02:15:03 handleLaunch is a method of appAssistant. Apr 28 02:15:03 haeffb: You're trying to pass params to yourself, in json, through ApplicationManager's launch method, I'm unaware if that's possible. Apr 28 02:15:21 you can definitely pass parameters. Apr 28 02:16:01 haeffb: it makes sense.. but you'd need to get them in uh... hmm.. i'm thinking, yes that should work of course Apr 28 02:16:13 haeffb: what does your handleLaunch method look like? Apr 28 02:16:53 it checks to see if launchParams exist. Apr 28 02:17:03 haeffb: and can you give me an example of what 'syncCallback: this.finishSync.bind(this)' would "typically" look like in json form? Apr 28 02:17:32 if not, then it assumes that it's a normal launch & checks to see if stage is already open. If so, activate, if not, launch app. Apr 28 02:17:59 just a sec... Apr 28 02:18:02 i suppose that all sounds right Apr 28 02:18:07 man.. sucks having to pay to put my trial app in the catalog when i didnt have to pay to put the full version in ;P oh well, the trial should draw more purchases to recoup that fee Apr 28 02:18:56 http://www.webos101.com/Multi-Stage_Applications Apr 28 02:19:28 there is an example handleLaunch Apr 28 02:20:08 if there are launchParams, then we take action depending on what they are. Apr 28 02:20:23 yep, looks good Apr 28 02:20:42 in my particular case, launchParams.action = sync. Apr 28 02:20:55 Actually, that wiki entry is great Apr 28 02:21:15 launchParams.dashInfo is an object passed to a dashboard scene used to display info in the dashboard. Apr 28 02:21:18 thank you. Apr 28 02:22:10 launchParams.syncCallback SHOULD be a function that I can pass to the dashboard's sceneAssistant & that I can call when the sync is done to update a div on the original scene. Apr 28 02:22:40 I.E. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO. Apr 28 02:23:21 but I couldn't get it to work :( Apr 28 02:24:37 well phooey Apr 28 02:24:54 anybody here? Apr 28 02:24:54 did you complain enough to get all the smart folk in here to take a look? :> Apr 28 02:25:04 alexfner: never Apr 28 02:25:16 question time: is there a way to view how many users have downloaded updates to an app in the My Apps section? Apr 28 02:25:45 yeah. phooey. Apr 28 02:25:45 so, when you figure it out, let me know. Apr 28 02:25:45 nope, I found a way around it. Apr 28 02:25:45 no. Apr 28 02:26:03 is one of those nos directed at me? Apr 28 02:26:58 my current solution is to check if the mainStage is open, & if so, call a function in that stage to run the sync. my callback works fine in that case. Apr 28 02:27:23 if the mainStage is not open, run the dashboard sync & there's no longer a need to update the div in the mainStage scene. Apr 28 02:27:31 alexfner: yes. Apr 28 02:27:37 haeffb: this better be a /really/ good alarm clock Apr 28 02:27:38 hmm Apr 28 02:27:39 nice name, by the way. Apr 28 02:27:50 hey, you've got a nice name yourself Apr 28 02:28:02 are you brothers? lol Apr 28 02:28:06 ahaha no Apr 28 02:28:09 http://uploads.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/done-toodledo Apr 28 02:28:17 you have similar last names Apr 28 02:28:24 I'm confused because precentral download count is dramatically higher than MyApps download count, for a free app Apr 28 02:28:30 ...well similar if they aren't the same Apr 28 02:28:33 so do smith & smythe Apr 28 02:28:40 so I thought it was due to an update download Apr 28 02:28:45 but I have no way to check D: Apr 28 02:29:06 MyApps is ONLY new downloads. Not updates. Apr 28 02:29:16 precentral is all downloads. new & updates. Apr 28 02:29:53 evening all Apr 28 02:30:04 well that's good Apr 28 02:30:17 something like 1/6 of downloadees have already picked up the update Apr 28 02:30:33 see I'm working to build a following, like stephen colbert Apr 28 02:30:43 I put my picture and witticisms in every one of my apps Apr 28 02:30:54 awesome. Apr 28 02:31:03 this is completely untrue Apr 28 02:31:13 if the pictures picturesque & the witticisms are witty Apr 28 02:34:02 alexfner: what apps? Apr 28 02:34:10 if you don't mind sharing with the class Apr 28 02:34:18 what apps what? Apr 28 02:34:26 what's the question? Apr 28 02:34:47 alexfner: which apps are yours :) Apr 28 02:34:51 what apps are picturesque & witty? Apr 28 02:34:52 oh haha, I only have one Apr 28 02:34:54 http://palmhotapps.com/details.jsp?packageid=com.alexhaefner.chainrxn Apr 28 02:35:08 it's kind of neat, I came to hate this game and people love it Apr 28 02:35:13 alexfner: oh you are the best :D Apr 28 02:35:17 that game is so suited for webos Apr 28 02:35:22 do you think? Apr 28 02:35:28 alexfner: i'm glad a stand up guy is developing it :> Apr 28 02:35:38 stop hitting on me, you're too nice! Apr 28 02:35:40 :D Apr 28 02:35:41 i do think, it's a fun little time waster, even in desktop/flash.. how much better on your phone Apr 28 02:35:43 xD Apr 28 02:35:47 alexfner: wanna go for beers? Apr 28 02:35:50 hahaha Apr 28 02:35:54 zure Apr 28 02:36:05 well I was almost not going to release it because I didn't think anyone would download it Apr 28 02:36:18 but it's definitely encouraged me to work on other webos games (canvas and div) Apr 28 02:36:25 alexfner: you are out of your mind lol Apr 28 02:36:56 I know, was born this way Apr 28 02:37:16 alexfner: there is an opensource (GPL) tower defense game (written in SDL) i was thinking about developing into something usable and webos friendly for the catalog Apr 28 02:37:34 great game... there is a version on facebook i used to play a lot Apr 28 02:37:44 (at chain reaction) Apr 28 02:38:11 do it Apr 28 02:38:21 should chain reaction get sound? Apr 28 02:38:32 alexfner: yay, little sounds Apr 28 02:38:33 by the way the source is available completely free, but i have yet to upload the most recent version Apr 28 02:38:37 alexfner: oh OH! make the sounds with your mouth! Apr 28 02:38:50 but I've heard html5 audio has some caching issues? Apr 28 02:38:51 I want to hear alex going "pew!" everytime a circle asplodes Apr 28 02:39:03 alexfner: check out the facebook version for their sounds... it works well Apr 28 02:39:06 and I'm already running into GC issues, would audio make it worse? Apr 28 02:39:29 yes... it would.... but you can make sound an option until audio doesn't suck Apr 28 02:39:50 no matter how much object creation I strip out, I still seem to hit GC problems, it's gotten dramatically better, but still cannot seem to avoid them Apr 28 02:40:03 has anyone made a pdk implant for audio? Apr 28 02:40:12 that would eliminate the probs? Apr 28 02:40:14 alexfner: half way Apr 28 02:40:30 alexfner: and then uh.. when i got there.. i turned it into a voice recording app and ringtone maker... Apr 28 02:40:34 so no Apr 28 02:40:51 wait, I thought you don't have access to mic through pdk yet? Apr 28 02:41:26 zsoc doesn't follow the rules >.< Apr 28 02:42:00 lol Apr 28 02:42:00 alexfner: my app records from the microphone, and also cuts clips from any other app (ie, music player, pandora, youtube, etc) Apr 28 02:42:15 zsoc is hungarian. that's the way they roll. Apr 28 02:42:19 oh you! Apr 28 02:42:30 oh me? Apr 28 02:42:35 no Apr 28 02:42:39 oh, so /now/ you want to have beers Apr 28 02:42:39 figures Apr 28 02:42:44 zsoc, want to take your pdk portion and use it to make a canvas game? Apr 28 02:42:57 it will analyze music in real time Apr 28 02:43:02 generate output Apr 28 02:43:07 user generates input Apr 28 02:43:10 and everyone's happy! Apr 28 02:43:15 alexfner: lol you made up that "oh you!" part to try to convince me Apr 28 02:43:23 I always do Apr 28 02:43:48 heh...gotta butter em up first, right? Apr 28 02:44:00 alexfner: Right now it's an LS service (ie: mimics palm's services using lunamgr headers), but in theory I can convert it to a Plugin. It's on the trac after 1.0 Apr 28 02:44:02 tends to work well :D Apr 28 02:44:04 alexfner: i'm at 0.5.7 now Apr 28 02:44:13 get to 1.0.0! Apr 28 02:44:16 do it now! Apr 28 02:44:58 alexfner: problem is, I don't want to waste the time converting it to a Plugin since PDK app enviro isn't fully decided yet, and I don't even know if gstreamer is going to be exposed (although I've confirmed GLib will probably be) Apr 28 02:46:00 ~crickets Apr 28 02:46:11 haha Apr 28 02:46:17 duuude Apr 28 02:46:20 go for it Apr 28 02:46:31 alexfner: tl;dr, i'll do it when Palm decides what the official environment for jailed pdk apps will be Apr 28 02:47:05 wait, did you pull a tl;dr on three lines? Apr 28 02:47:21 halfhalo_T400: .. yes? Apr 28 02:47:21 zsoc, I read the whole thing :D Apr 28 02:47:31 alexfner: i don't know you well enough yet :P Apr 28 02:47:35 alexfner: anyway, i gotta get back to 0.5.8 Apr 28 02:47:48 ... Apr 28 02:47:51 halfhalo_T400: 5 to 3 lines is big change Apr 28 02:48:30 so, guise, the web is the future Apr 28 02:48:40 it's a series of tubes, and we should use it well Apr 28 02:50:14 so don't let your hair go down the drain or it will clog the drain Apr 28 02:50:52 and then the tubes will be clogged and it will all be over Apr 28 02:55:06 Hey folks Apr 28 02:55:09 alexfner: the problem is, too many people like mudkips Apr 28 02:55:21