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May 16 03:06:51 <haeffb> Roy-Pre101
May 16 03:07:39 <Roy-Pre101> haeffb: Howdy.
May 16 03:08:11 <haeffb> whaddaya think: http://tigercountrysoftware.com/
May 16 03:11:05 <Roy-Pre101> haeffb: nice
May 16 03:12:18 <haeffb> also have the mobile version installed.
May 16 04:11:16 <JasonLP> Heya
May 16 04:11:46 <Nyceane1> .join #snaptic
May 16 04:11:56 <Nyceane1> sorry
May 16 04:15:25 <JasonLP> Is someone here that can answer questions I have regarding the latest WebOS SDK beta?
May 16 04:17:34 <JenP> what's up JasonLP?
May 16 04:18:34 <JasonLP> Hi JenP.  I'm having problems with the tools since I installed the beta SDK.  My PDK plugin no longer works, and I'm missing some tools to track down the problem.
May 16 04:19:03 <JenP> sorry i can't be any help with the PDK I haven't played with it
May 16 04:19:15 <JasonLP> k
May 16 04:19:32 <JasonLP> I posted in the Early Access forum.  Hopefully someone will figure out where I'm going wrong.
May 16 04:42:28 <Roy-Pre101> JasonLP: That's probably better.  Technically all that stuff is under NDA so we don't usually talk about specifics on the pre-release.
May 16 04:42:53 <JasonLP> I see.  THx
May 16 04:42:56 <Roy-Pre101> JasonLP: How much PDK stuff have you done?
May 16 04:43:15 <JasonLP> I have one hybrid app that depends heavily on it.
May 16 04:43:22 <Roy-Pre101> Nice, what's it do?
May 16 04:43:55 <JasonLP> It's an encrypted password storage system.  I wrote it originally in javascript, but it performed horribly.
May 16 04:44:04 <JasonLP> In C++ it flies.
May 16 04:47:54 <Roy-Pre101> Nice.
May 16 04:48:08 <Roy-Pre101> Any stuff you can add about the PDK to webos101.com would be great.  :)
May 16 04:48:59 <JasonLP> Cool—I'll check it out.
May 16 04:59:23 <JasonLP> Wow, I think I figured out my problem.
May 16 05:03:42 <Roy-Pre101> Oh?
May 16 05:04:04 <JasonLP> Yes, a mis-capitalization in their documentation!
May 16 05:04:15 <JasonLP> I'll post about it to save others the hours of grief. :)
May 16 05:06:05 <Roy-Pre101> Great!
May 16 05:06:53 <JasonLP> :)
May 16 05:07:11 <JasonLP> They have some good tech, but need help in the documentation dept. IMHO
May 16 05:08:05 <Tibfib> +1111111
May 16 05:08:13 <Tibfib> they need to convert it to a wiki
May 16 05:10:00 <JasonLP> They need to test for correctness.
May 16 05:53:10 <Nyceane1> hey, how do i do horizontal screen on emulator?
May 16 05:53:12 <Nyceane1> for the mac
May 16 05:53:51 <oil> one of the f-keys?
May 16 05:55:10 <Nyceane1> f keys on mac are weird
May 16 05:55:18 <Nyceane1> they dont relaly do anything...
May 16 05:58:53 <Nyceane1> ello
May 16 05:58:56 <Nyceane1> >
May 16 05:59:30 <Nyceane1> it doesnt do anything...
May 16 05:59:47 <Roy-Pre101> I think it's F6-F9.
May 16 05:59:55 <Roy-Pre101> Also, keep in mind it doesn't actually rotate the screen
May 16 05:59:57 <Nyceane1> been doing that on mac
May 16 06:00:05 <Nyceane1> oh...
May 16 06:00:07 <Roy-Pre101> It only tells the app that it rotated.
May 16 06:00:45 <Roy-Pre101> Try the photo viewer or another rotation-aware app
May 16 06:02:59 <Nyceane1> thanks
May 16 06:03:34 <Roy-Pre101> Arrrg! Please someone put the Mac image back!
May 16 06:04:14 <Nyceane1> works
May 16 06:04:46 <Nyceane1> how do i disable rotation?
May 16 06:06:37 <Nyceane1> done =)
May 16 06:16:54 <felonious> anyone know if its possible to create a multi-stage app with Ares built scenes?
May 16 06:18:58 <Roy-Pre101> Excellent question. I do not know but yes, I think you can.
May 16 06:19:08 <Roy-Pre101> rick-home: Ping.
May 16 06:20:22 <felonious> I was trying the standard app-assistant stuff and I keep getting this error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'tap' of object (app-build.js:220)
May 16 06:20:39 <felonious> right after creating the scene in app-assistant
May 16 06:23:16 <felonious> any ideas?
May 16 06:25:40 <Roy-Pre101> did you check the forum?
May 16 06:25:58 <felonious> yeah, nothing specifically related to Ares
May 16 06:26:17 <felonious> I posted there, yesterday about it, but I'm impatient :)
May 16 06:39:40 <felonious> dang it, it even gives that error with a totally blank Ares scene. :(
May 16 06:41:50 <Roy-Pre101> Are you manually starting the ares stuff?  Might be necessary.
May 16 06:42:08 <felonious> no, dont really know how to do that
May 16 06:42:23 <felonious> you mean creating the scene?
May 16 06:42:36 <Roy-Pre101> Well, I do know Ares does some startup to get loaded.
May 16 06:42:48 <Roy-Pre101> On multi-stage you probably have to be sure to start it for each stage.
May 16 06:43:05 <Roy-Pre101> There's an article about mixing standard apps with Ares apps.  I bet that might help.
May 16 06:43:16 <Roy-Pre101> not article, but post
May 16 06:43:29 <Roy-Pre101> In fact, if it helps, please post to webos101.com in the Ares section.
May 16 06:43:47 <Roy-Pre101> (even if it doesn't, please document anything you know about Ares there. :) )
May 16 06:44:47 <felonious> thanks, I think I've seen that post but ignored it at the time. I'll go check it out
May 16 06:59:25 <felonious> Rot=Pre101: interesting. i solved a portion of the problem by taking out "lightweight: true" from the stageArguments. gets rid of that pesky tap error
May 16 07:01:20 <felonious> err I mean "Roy-Pre101" ;)
May 16 07:21:40 <felonious> does Depot work in the app-assistant?
May 16 11:52:30 <warpdesign> hello
May 16 13:08:24 <haeffb> hello
May 16 13:17:04 <Bmyers_> morn'n haeffb
May 16 13:20:02 <haeffb> Bmyers_
May 16 13:20:29 <haeffb> went back to wordpress: http://tigercountrysoftware.com/
May 16 13:22:56 <Bmyers_> looks good
May 16 13:28:59 <haeffb> just finished submitting Done!
May 16 14:59:25 <warpdesign> are css animations supported in webos ?
May 16 15:26:40 <JenP> morning all
May 16 15:32:09 <Versed> morn
May 16 15:34:01 * JenP waves
May 16 15:46:59 * haeffb_pre salutes
May 16 16:07:13 <rolsworth> hopefully the pre does welll on att. the only thing it has is the iphone
May 16 16:07:18 <rolsworth> no droid devices
May 16 16:16:53 <haeffb_pre> no droid is good. iphone, though...
May 16 16:17:03 <Versed> well the do have the backflip
May 16 16:17:10 <Versed> which is android
May 16 16:17:44 <Versed> and sorta the N1 if one wishes to go the un-subsidized route
May 16 16:33:01 <Roy-Pre101> warpdesign: Yes, they are.
May 16 16:33:13 <rolsworth> from what i hear the andorid device on att is crap
May 16 16:33:32 <Roy-Pre101> Hey, if anyone has some time I turned on file uploads on webos101.com.  We could really use some images of the various widgets.
May 16 16:42:30 <haeffb_pre> woot! for file uploads
May 16 16:43:16 <sugardave> yay, purty pictures
May 16 16:43:58 <sugardave> if I can finish getting all the stickers out of the front yard and get the dog washed, I may get to work on webOS stuff today
May 16 16:44:01 <sugardave> I'm excited
May 16 16:44:40 <JenP> woo hoo go sugardave!
May 16 16:45:01 <sugardave> I hate those sticker plants...they grow like wildfire
May 16 16:59:16 <Roy-Pre101> You can even upload .ipk files.  .html, .css and .js files are out, though.
May 16 17:14:20 <JenP> is there somthing special i have to do to get my program icon to show up in my page header titles?
May 16 17:17:40 <Roy-Pre101> JenP: Probably not?
May 16 17:17:59 <JenP> hmm i'm always getting funky formatting from it...
May 16 17:18:18 <JenP> like the icons in the top left corner instead of in line
May 16 17:25:42 <JenP> haeffb_pre: I love your sync screen in 'done'
May 16 17:36:21 <schemer999> is it possible with webos to intercept a call or sms and take an action?
May 16 17:43:53 <schemer999> just need to get notifications of incoming texts and calls.
May 16 17:44:45 <Roy-Pre101> schemer999: Not with the standard SDK
May 16 17:45:57 <schemer999> i see.  so the unofficial way is through registerForIncomingMessages but if i use it, i can't distribute my app through official channels?
May 16 17:46:27 <rick-home> exactlky
May 16 17:46:34 <schemer999> alright, thanks.
May 16 17:48:13 <Roy-Pre101> rick-home: You alive?
May 16 17:48:25 <JenP> rick-home!!! Hi
May 16 17:48:28 <haeffb_pre> jenp so do I.
May 16 17:48:45 <JenP> haeffb_pre: so very cool.
May 16 17:49:25 <haeffb_pre> I need to save the log between launches, too.
May 16 17:50:00 <schemer999> is it quite easy for users to install unofficial apps?
May 16 17:50:13 <Roy-Pre101> schemer999: Yes, check out Preware.
May 16 17:50:21 <schemer999> Roy-Pre101: thanks.
May 16 17:50:28 <gkatsev> preware, or if you have an IPK you dled, then webos quick install
May 16 17:51:34 <schemer999> ah.  and if i wanted to charge for this app?
May 16 17:52:07 <shifty256> hi guys - anyone have an idea how i can import new fonts in a webos app?
May 16 17:52:48 <Roy-Pre101> shifty256: I do not.  Check the forum.
May 16 17:53:37 <shifty256> no solution found in any forums
May 16 17:54:34 <shifty256> btw. i can import some new fonts, but this habe only an effect when i show the app in chrome / chromium. Not on my pre or the emlator ...
May 16 17:54:44 <Roy-Pre101> Pft, and just like a ship in the night, rick-home disappears...
May 16 17:55:23 <swisstomcat> evening
May 16 17:55:57 <JenP> hi swisstomcat
May 16 17:56:04 <swisstomcat> hi jenp
May 16 17:59:30 <Nyceane> I think chuqui isnt here =_=
May 16 18:00:24 <swisstomcat> he had a busy weekend
May 16 18:01:36 <Tibfib> cleaning out reviews >.<
May 16 18:01:49 <swisstomcat> i didn't get any reviews
May 16 18:02:57 <Nyceane> my review score increased
May 16 18:03:07 <Nyceane> and i have 16900 downloads now
May 16 18:03:12 <Nyceane> whos the maker of death by caffine?
May 16 18:03:16 <swisstomcat> wait, i got 2 0 star review
May 16 18:03:18 <swisstomcat> s
May 16 18:03:20 <Nyceane> such a useless app that doenst even entertain
May 16 18:03:53 <swisstomcat> maybe not usless for everyone
May 16 18:04:03 <haeffb_pre> hi swisstomcat
May 16 18:04:12 <swisstomcat> hey haeffb
May 16 18:04:27 <Nyceane> oh, i just made the most awesome app ever =)
May 16 18:04:49 <Nyceane> I m trying to get a rejection to fix the orientation, but after its fixed, you'll have a good laugh =P
May 16 18:05:33 <swisstomcat> i have one app in "ready to review"
May 16 18:05:58 <swisstomcat> the other one has 31500 unique downloads
May 16 18:07:35 <Nyceane> wow, 31500, which app>
May 16 18:07:41 <swisstomcat> Moo
May 16 18:09:27 <shifty256> Moo < Nice App for kids ;-)
May 16 18:09:33 <Nyceane> lol
May 16 18:10:09 <Nyceane> anywayz, i have high confidence that my new app is gona make it on top =)
May 16 18:10:12 <Nyceane> very high confidence
May 16 18:10:20 <Nyceane> it doesnt even have any ads
May 16 18:11:09 <rick-home> Moo is a great app
May 16 18:11:24 <shifty256> Nyceane, which app?
May 16 18:11:30 <swisstomcat> glad you like it, rick-home :)
May 16 18:11:43 <swisstomcat> (even for big kids)
May 16 18:11:52 <shifty256> right, i like it too
May 16 18:12:04 <swisstomcat> need to update it and add some more animals .. anyone got public domain animal pics?
May 16 18:12:15 <rick-home> Wikipedia
May 16 18:12:47 <swisstomcat> already check there, not all are PD .. most are CC
May 16 18:13:01 <swisstomcat> guess i have to take my own
May 16 18:13:08 <swisstomcat> need a cricket for example
May 16 18:13:13 <rick-home> http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/browse-category.php?s=10
May 16 18:13:36 <shifty256> Nyceane, for which app you are the dev.?
May 16 18:13:47 <rick-home> http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/hledej.php?hleda=cricket
May 16 18:14:24 <swisstomcat> that grasshopper is pretty nice, thanks rick-home
May 16 18:14:51 <rick-home> http://www.pdphoto.org/PictureHome.php?cid=58&mat=pdef&md=cid
May 16 18:15:43 <rick-home> http://gimp-savvy.com/PHOTO-ARCHIVE/UFWS/page1.html
May 16 18:16:08 <rick-home> http://www.fws.gov/digitalmedia
May 16 18:16:19 <rick-home> that ought to take care of you for a while marcus
May 16 18:16:31 <swisstomcat> yup :)
May 16 18:16:42 <swisstomcat> but first i have to work on the german translation of preware
May 16 18:17:05 <rick-home> oddly, all those were in the first five links doing a google search for:  public domain animal pictures
May 16 18:17:20 <swisstomcat> yeah, i already got some of those links
May 16 18:18:14 <Tibfib> anyone know why this doesn't work? http://webos.pastebin.com/g1rRwnLb
May 16 18:19:38 <swisstomcat> what doesn't work, tibfib?
May 16 18:19:46 <Tibfib> changing the value
May 16 18:19:48 <Tibfib> I get an error
May 16 18:20:07 <Tibfib> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'refresh_active' of object (app/assistants/pref-assistant.js:31)
May 16 18:20:41 <shifty256> jap
May 16 18:20:57 <Tibfib> wha... works now. nvm
May 16 18:21:25 <Tibfib> don't put Bakery.loadCookie() in your app-assistant handle-launch function >.<
May 16 18:22:38 <Tibfib> oops. nvm, again. doesn't work. I had commented out the bake stuff in the handler function when testing
May 16 18:25:56 <shifty256> Bakery.preferences.dough['refresh_active'] >> Bakery.preferences.refresh_active (could help)
May 16 18:26:09 <shifty256> Bakery.preferences.dough['refresh_active'] >> Bakery.preferences.dough.refresh_active (could help)
May 16 18:29:49 <Roy-Pre101> JenP has been doing some redesigns on webOS101.com, btw.  Give her some thanks.
May 16 18:32:04 <haeffb_pre> thanks JenP
May 16 18:32:20 <Tibfib> thanks!
May 16 18:32:31 * JenP blushes
May 16 18:32:37 * haeffb_pre wonders why I feel compelled to do whatever Roy says...
May 16 18:42:40 <Tibfib> so does anyone know why my cookie bakery is having trouble?
May 16 18:43:15 <Tibfib> sugardave: ping
May 16 18:46:12 <Tibfib> oooh: http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=26987_70e6420084334a50a1a2669ce3ba5d10
May 16 18:53:17 <Roy-Pre101> Tibfib: Been meaning to ask you, why did you change the category listing on the services?
May 16 18:55:08 <Tibfib> Roy-Pre101: make it fluid.
May 16 18:55:27 <Tibfib> so the pages are the same...
May 16 18:55:58 <Tibfib> I also think the descriptions are helpful
May 16 18:56:13 <Roy-Pre101> Widgets and APIs are still on the categories, I think.  I think the problem with the categories system is that not all the services/APIs/Widgets have any documentation yet.
May 16 18:56:57 <Tibfib> I made the services look like the API and widget pages
May 16 18:57:46 <Tibfib> Roy-Pre101: that may be true, but I think the category system promotes people to update and create those pages more than the purely alphabetical system does
May 16 18:58:10 <Tibfib> It lets people know what is needed.
May 16 19:01:58 <Tibfib> Roy-Pre101: you can change it back if you'd like :)
May 16 19:05:11 <Roy-Pre101> I'm not motivated to change it. :)  I prefer the full list.
May 16 19:05:34 <Roy-Pre101> I'll either have to create stubs for everything first or do something different with them
May 16 19:38:42 <rick-home> ok, that's officially silly, just saw video on TV of people playing Quiditch, running around tossing balls while holding broomsticks between their legs...
May 16 19:38:57 <swisstomcat> hehe
May 16 19:39:06 <swisstomcat> pretty silly
May 16 19:39:21 <Tibfib> rick-home: nniiiiice, dvr it?
May 16 19:42:45 <rick-home> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL0sG7Dtcfw
May 16 19:45:05 <Tibfib> hahaahahahahhaahah
May 16 19:45:34 <rick-home> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4lxXQsCtEE&NR=1
May 16 19:48:21 <rick-home> my favorite part -- the golden snitch is attached to the back of a guy's uniform wearing a yellow shirt, so you have to chase him around and get the "flag" like flag football, and that's capturing the snitch.
May 16 19:48:36 <Tibfib> hahaha
May 16 19:48:44 <Tibfib> watching it now lol
May 16 19:48:58 <JenP> omg that's hysterical
May 16 19:49:25 <rick-home> The blodgers are two guys running around in purple t-shirts that smash into players....
May 16 19:49:47 <JenP> LOL
May 16 19:51:09 <rick-home> second annual quidditch world cup at Middlebury College....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cy32PszpoA&NR=1
May 16 19:52:06 <Tibfib> the first video of it actually looked like fun
May 16 19:52:24 * Tibfib doesn't think running around with a broom between his legs would be fun
May 16 20:37:26 <warpdesign> Roy-Pre101: ok, thanks !
May 16 20:42:10 <swisstomcat> ping haeffb
May 16 20:45:08 * Tibfib thinks others should +1 Dave Balmer's post: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=7119&start=25
May 16 20:46:21 <swisstomcat> yup,  i just did a few minutes ago
May 16 20:46:29 <swisstomcat> that "report a problem" bug really stinks
May 16 20:49:11 <Tibfib> swisstomcat: yeah it does
May 16 20:50:40 <swisstomcat> the bug report has been filed back on march 16
May 16 20:51:37 <Tibfib> palm needs to fix the catalog.
May 16 20:51:53 <Tibfib> so many bugs, poor review system...
May 16 20:55:10 <swisstomcat> and almost no updates to it so far
May 16 20:55:20 <swisstomcat> lack of manpower?
May 16 20:56:15 <Tibfib> good question. that's why I'm excited about HPalm
May 16 21:17:54 <warpdesign> well, HPalm have to move very fast: cause the market won't wait for them.. nokia, rim, apple, google,..
May 16 21:18:37 <swisstomcat> yup
May 16 21:18:42 <swisstomcat> the others won't wait for palm
May 16 21:23:26 <Versed> right
May 16 21:23:55 <swisstomcat> but a merger generally slows things down
May 16 21:24:52 <Versed> well they have no choice, new android phones like every other day, new iphone just around the corner, new wm this summer/fall.  this doesn't bode well for them.
May 16 21:25:27 <swisstomcat> they have a good technology platform
May 16 21:25:37 <swisstomcat> but that's not the only thing needed
May 16 21:25:50 <swisstomcat> hpalm needs more mindshare
May 16 21:26:23 <Tibfib> a lot of people believe webOS to be the best OS (has most potential).
May 16 21:26:54 <Versed> to be honest, I think it would be excellent as a tablet OS.
May 16 21:27:55 <warpdesign> well, I think they need a new phone, and hardware acceleration for the gui.. pixi really doesn't show the OS to its full potential: it's too slow, too little powered.. pre is ok, but will be beaten by new phones (from htc/google, apple),.. they really need new devices, soon
May 16 21:28:47 <Tibfib> oh c40, where art thou?
May 16 21:30:32 <Versed> better be out on more then just sprint
May 16 21:32:03 <warpdesign> yes
May 16 21:32:04 <swisstomcat> hardware accel for css3 is coming
May 16 21:32:09 <warpdesign> well, at&t is coming
May 16 21:32:22 <swisstomcat> js-services replacing java-services is coming
May 16 21:32:42 <warpdesign> good !
May 16 21:33:27 <Tibfib> at&t is here >.<
May 16 21:34:03 <Versed> yeah
May 16 21:34:07 <swisstomcat> the great thing about webos is: all the time you invest is not lost because you're using web-technologies .. you can use those in other places too
May 16 21:34:19 <swisstomcat> css3/html5
May 16 21:34:21 <swisstomcat> canvas
May 16 21:36:36 <swisstomcat> g'night everyone
May 16 21:36:40 <Versed> nn
May 16 21:36:43 <Tibfib> cya
May 16 21:36:47 <Versed> off to dinner anyways
May 16 21:46:02 <warpdesign> good night everyone
May 17 00:01:01 <Infinity25> Hey guys, anyone is looking for a job?
May 17 00:01:17 <Infinity25> in IT
May 17 00:07:58 <Infinity25> preferably in or around NYC. let me know thx
May 17 01:53:32 <rick-home> Why in or around NYC?  This is the internet.  We manage world-wide development teams all the time...
May 17 01:56:23 <haeffb_pre> somebody has to plug in the server...
May 17 02:03:39 <rick-home> haeffb  that's what co-location remote hands are for.
May 17 02:05:49 <JenP> hi all
May 17 02:11:10 <haeffb_pre> hey
May 17 02:11:21 <JenP> hi haeffb_pre
May 17 02:11:52 <haeffb_pre> what's new?
May 17 02:12:15 <JenP> not much...trying to motivate myself to work
May 17 02:13:22 <haeffb_pre> submitted done to the cayalog this am
May 17 02:13:31 <JenP> oh that's wonderful!
May 17 02:13:42 <JenP> congratulations!
May 17 02:13:44 <haeffb_pre> also to the catalog
May 17 02:14:06 <JenP> smiles...
May 17 02:18:12 <haeffb_pre> have u seen the competition?
May 17 02:18:18 <haeffb_pre> toodler
May 17 02:19:09 <JenP> no
May 17 02:19:16 <JenP> what do you think of it?
May 17 02:24:17 <haeffb_pre> I have a much better icon
May 17 02:25:01 <JenP> yeah you do
May 17 02:26:20 <JenP> oh man your app is SO MUCH better
May 17 02:29:23 <haeffb_pre> and $0.76 cheaper
May 17 02:29:41 <JenP> yep
May 17 02:29:54 <Bmyers_> brilliant
May 17 02:30:14 <JenP> hi Bmyers_
May 17 02:30:25 <Bmyers_> you price it using the dart board method again?
May 17 02:30:38 <Bmyers_> hi JenP
May 17 02:33:27 <haeffb_pre> dart board? this is science. designed to generate the max possible revenue...
May 17 02:34:44 <haeffb_pre> everybody knows 2.99 is really 3.00
May 17 02:34:54 <haeffb_pre> so is 3.23
May 17 02:35:22 <haeffb_pre> but with an extra $0.20 per sale
May 17 02:35:23 <Bmyers_> i've been robbed!
May 17 02:35:30 <sugardave> no $2.99 is "UNDER $3!!!!"
May 17 02:36:09 <Bmyers_> i've dropped time=money to under $3 also
May 17 02:36:28 <haeffb_pre> it's all sykological
May 17 02:36:33 <Bmyers_> trying to get it to move
May 17 02:37:09 <haeffb_pre> it's  $1 or $2 or $t
May 17 02:37:15 <haeffb_pre> 3
May 17 02:37:24 <JenP> so far the best sales ploy i've seen is when people put ***special one time price*** in their desc
May 17 02:37:43 <sugardave> duh, they're all one-time priced :D
May 17 02:37:56 <Bmyers_> and special
May 17 02:38:10 <Bmyers_> sugardave:
May 17 02:38:11 <JenP> exactly!
May 17 02:38:46 <sugardave> Bmyers_:
May 17 02:39:05 <Bmyers_> hows the world treating you sugardave
May 17 02:39:22 <haeffb_pre> (I just made all that science stuff up, to deflect ridicule of my dartb
May 17 02:39:33 <haeffb_pre> oard method)
May 17 02:39:45 <sugardave> pretty good, been too busy to have fun with webOS
May 17 02:39:57 <Bmyers_> darts are good in alot of situations. pricing isnt one of them
May 17 02:40:02 <haeffb_pre> unpossible!
May 17 02:40:12 <sugardave> there are all kinds of science involved with darts
May 17 02:40:18 <Bmyers_> u heard it's HPOs now right?
May 17 02:40:59 <Bmyers_> as in hewlett packard
May 17 02:41:21 <sugardave> oh yeah, I do know that much :D
May 17 02:41:49 <Bmyers_> interesting huh?
May 17 02:43:04 <Bmyers_> Debt free looks solid for a $1000 spot..
May 17 02:44:12 <JenP> yeah i hope so
May 17 02:44:21 <JenP> i got the dB stuff working so there's that
May 17 02:44:38 <Bmyers_> $1000, buys a nice pair of shoes
May 17 02:44:50 <JenP> or a pretty purse
May 17 02:45:24 * haeffb_pre needs to write a DebtLaden app. more universally applicable
May 17 02:45:24 <Bmyers_> i  was thinking shoes. u can do what u want with your prize money
May 17 02:45:33 <sugardave> Bmyers_: yeah, I'm actually pretty happy with the possibilities of HP devices and webOS
May 17 02:45:42 <JenP> lol
May 17 02:45:42 <sugardave> we'll see how it goes
May 17 02:45:50 <Bmyers_> hp tablet..
May 17 02:46:00 <Bmyers_> ipad killer
May 17 02:46:03 <sugardave> yeah, that would be sweet
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May 17 02:49:04 <Bmyers_> i'm look at xcode just to be diversified
May 17 02:49:22 <Bmyers_> want to release GR To apple, wm, and 'roid
May 17 02:49:36 <sugardave> is that something that you need a Mac for>
May 17 02:49:37 <sugardave> ?
May 17 02:49:45 <Bmyers_> yup. u do
May 17 02:50:10 <sugardave> I"m still a ways away from being able to think about cross-platform stuff
May 17 02:50:16 <Bmyers_> i am hoping that i get 1k from palm to get a Mac
May 17 02:50:27 <sugardave> but, everything except iphone should be do-able
May 17 02:50:33 <sugardave> Bmyers_: good luck!
May 17 02:50:37 <sugardave> how's it looking?
May 17 02:50:46 <JenP> can you even buy a mac for a thousand?
May 17 02:50:50 <Bmyers_> GR has 16k dl's
May 17 02:51:10 <sugardave> JenP: you can, it might be the ugly stepchild, but you can
May 17 02:51:23 <sugardave> Bmyers_: is that in the money?  I dont' check
May 17 02:51:26 <JenP> smiles...never new that
May 17 02:51:28 <sugardave> I have no dog in the hunt
May 17 02:51:35 <Bmyers_> mac mini $599
May 17 02:51:42 <Bmyers_> under $600 bux
May 17 02:51:43 <Bmyers_> !!
May 17 02:51:47 <sugardave> heh
May 17 02:51:54 <JenP> what's a mac mini? is that like ipads cousin?
May 17 02:52:20 <Bmyers_> it's a mac in a box the 6 inch square box
May 17 02:52:28 <Bmyers_> 2 inches high
May 17 02:52:56 <JenP> hmm?
May 17 02:53:12 <Bmyers_> a little bitty box of a mac
May 17 02:54:03 <RagingMind> also they have a refurb page of their online store
May 17 02:54:14 <Bmyers_> saves you about 10% on avg
May 17 02:55:08 <RagingMind> there are a lot of things that are 15 or 20% off
May 17 02:55:17 <Bmyers_> running a hackintosh right now
May 17 02:55:39 <Bmyers_> would like a imac 21 or macbook pro
May 17 02:56:54 <JenP> macs have never appealed to me
May 17 02:57:41 <Bmyers_> it tastes just like linux
May 17 02:57:44 <haeffb_pre> sorry, mac
May 17 02:58:37 <JenP> http://palmhotapps.com/details.jsp?packageid=com.codingbees.mylove
May 17 02:58:49 <JenP> this one suprises me that it's doing so well
May 17 02:59:40 <RagingMind> that's kinda sappy and creepy
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