**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 16 02:59:56 2010 Jun 16 02:59:57 JenP: I founded a company and have released several apps. I also was one of the first devs for Palm, one of the the first paid apps devs, and I released two homebrew apps that have been voted as best homebrew by PreCentral and you want me to do more? Jun 16 03:00:26 kesne: world hunger's still out there for someone to take on. Jun 16 03:00:32 * JenP shakes head....and wishes Kesne would live up to his potential Jun 16 03:00:33 peace in the middle east... Jun 16 03:00:34 Let's not even mention the download counts. Over 200,000 unique downloads of Checkers alone, over 250,000 downloads of Keen Studios products Jun 16 03:00:44 LOL Jun 16 03:01:09 * haeffb once ate three Big Macs in a single sitting... Jun 16 03:01:19 that reminds me Jun 16 03:01:27 today I had this crazy 20oz burger Jun 16 03:01:50 dude. that's like more than a pound of burger Jun 16 03:02:00 mmmmbeeeeeeefs Jun 16 03:02:03 JenP: My list of accomplishments this year is only bested by your list of failures. Jun 16 03:02:11 In terms of length, that is Jun 16 03:02:11 oh snaps Jun 16 03:02:19 yeah the weird thing is Jun 16 03:02:23 they call it "the pounder" Jun 16 03:02:26 LOL just the fact that i'm a female makes me better then you Jun 16 03:02:31 when it's 20 oz of meat alone Jun 16 03:02:34 maybe it cooks down to a pound Jun 16 03:02:37 1) Create a stage and scene on the app's initial launch Jun 16 03:02:39 1 pound pre grill Jun 16 03:02:41 torchie you didn't seriously eat all that did you? Jun 16 03:02:42 2) Activate an existing stage if the app has already been launched (i.e. it was minimized and the user taps on the app icon in the launcher) Jun 16 03:02:44 JenP: go make me a sandwich. Jun 16 03:02:47 I seriously ate it Jun 16 03:02:47 er 20oz before grilling Jun 16 03:02:56 a friend and I went to the restaurant and we both downed one Jun 16 03:02:59 OMG!!! Kesne! Jun 16 03:03:00 and now we're on the wall Jun 16 03:03:12 well you have that going for you Jun 16 03:03:13 torchie do you feel ok? Jun 16 03:03:17 speaking of the wall, I just wrote an essay on the Berlin wall Jun 16 03:03:19 In german. Jun 16 03:03:21 well not when I was eating the burger I didn't Jun 16 03:03:31 kesne! you can translate my apps for me! Jun 16 03:03:35 JenP: sorry, I'm young Jun 16 03:03:43 JenP: No spankings this time? Jun 16 03:03:51 haeffb: how about screen shots for each scenarios Jun 16 03:03:53 haeffb: I could, but I'd rather not Jun 16 03:04:04 kesne: me too. Jun 16 03:04:12 You know german? Jun 16 03:04:18 nein Jun 16 03:05:02 JenP: 1 & 2 are just launching the app. Jun 16 03:05:05 Sprechest du deutch? Jun 16 03:05:10 Ich auch! Jun 16 03:06:13 I grew up in a German-speaking community, but never got around to actually learning the language. Jun 16 03:06:42 Ich spreche deutsch nicht so gut, aber kann ich satze machen. Jun 16 03:07:35 you don't speak german well, something something something. Jun 16 03:07:59 I don't speak german well, but I can make sentences Jun 16 03:08:14 I think at least Jun 16 03:08:16 but you can make sentences. Jun 16 03:08:21 so says Google. Jun 16 03:08:46 Google is usually correct Jun 16 03:09:03 A friend of mine is passing the class because of it Jun 16 03:09:06 Bleh Jun 16 03:09:15 German 4 != mein freunde Jun 16 03:09:55 i only did zwei jahre Jun 16 03:10:13 is there a way to (easily) clear the entire scene stack? Jun 16 03:10:33 stack.destroy! Jun 16 03:10:39 make sure you use the exclamation Jun 16 03:10:39 Pandora--: HA! I BEAT YOU! Jun 16 03:10:44 ja Jun 16 03:10:46 that would be awesome Jun 16 03:10:46 :) Jun 16 03:10:51 auch ja! Jun 16 03:11:00 so ein mist!!!! Jun 16 03:11:32 * pandora-- wanders off Jun 16 03:11:50 Nein nein nein nein nein! Jun 16 03:12:12 haeffb: what is "DAO"? Jun 16 03:12:34 just leave it as DAO. Jun 16 03:12:42 auf wiedersen Jun 16 03:13:05 sugardave: popScenesTo Jun 16 03:13:15 haeffb: ah, thanks Jun 16 03:13:37 * haeffb remembers my pledge to be of assistance... :) Jun 16 03:13:54 what a great conversation. I've thoroughly enjoyed it. thanks Jun 16 03:14:13 haeffb: so really, are you black? Jun 16 03:14:20 kesne: no Jun 16 03:14:29 okay Jun 16 03:14:30 * Tibfib 's house went through a tornado a couple/few years ago Jun 16 03:14:36 Tibfib: we live to serve Jun 16 03:15:35 Tibfib: did you see what I said about PerfTimer? Jun 16 03:15:45 no Jun 16 03:16:14 ah, just searched it Jun 16 03:16:17 Tibfib: did you ever get an answer about the PerfTimer question? Jun 16 03:16:27 Nope Jun 16 03:16:40 I just up-arrowed to the wrong thing Jun 16 03:16:41 duh Jun 16 03:16:50 I just know I had to turn it off to make mny app work Jun 16 03:17:01 it was happening when I was listening to certain events on a WebView Jun 16 03:17:10 Hmm. no webview's here Jun 16 03:17:29 I think it has heavy fingers in Animation, too Jun 16 03:17:45 Heh, very few animations :D Jun 16 03:18:09 well, good luck! I'd just turn it off Jun 16 03:18:15 I had timing enabled for a little while. Not sure when I turned it off...it seems to work now Jun 16 03:18:21 yeah Jun 16 03:20:02 Tibfib: is there some particular time that I should be testing MojoMessenger? I don't really need a chat app to talk with myself... Jun 16 03:20:27 time? Jun 16 03:20:34 Like when people are active in the rooms? Jun 16 03:21:00 like that, yes Jun 16 03:21:15 Tibfib: you have Mojo Messaging? Jun 16 03:21:30 sugardave: the service? no. the app? yes... I made it Jun 16 03:21:38 ah, I see Jun 16 03:21:54 haeffb: just gotta wait till more people have the app. 50-ish accounts. I think about 20ish active users Jun 16 03:23:03 I mean it is in closed beta...heh Jun 16 03:33:47 dangit............. if iPhone4 was on a decent carrier and I could swap sims with my pre I'd probably go for it Jun 16 03:34:42 I want a new gadget. HPalm... please satisfy me. Jun 16 03:36:19 so, any examples of how to turn a phone number or url in a text field into a clickable link? Jun 16 03:38:50 haeffb: i believe it's an attribute on the text field Jun 16 03:39:38 but i can't find it, so i'm not sure on that Jun 16 03:40:06 autoReplace ? Jun 16 03:40:32 haeffb: Jun 16 03:40:44 heh. Mojo.format.runTextIndexer(text) Jun 16 03:40:50 maybe .Format Jun 16 03:41:30 oh. in a text field. heh. Jun 16 03:42:00 that will help, though. thanks! Jun 16 03:59:08 does the webos accept jQuery? Jun 16 04:11:09 JenP: It accepts everything Jun 16 04:15:31 haeffb: "With Parents" ?? Jun 16 04:17:57 sorry "With Parent" Jun 16 04:20:57 noooo I broke me ajax Jun 16 04:21:38 LoneStar99: a subtask can repeat with it's parent task Jun 16 04:22:40 haeffb_pre: almost done just need to review Jun 16 04:32:01 emu can't get to my local server Jun 16 04:32:01 wtf Jun 16 05:13:52 haeffb_pre: done emailing them now Jun 16 05:18:39 I find it rather amusing that developer.palm.com doesn't render correctly on the webos browser Jun 16 07:09:13 morning Jun 16 08:50:57 Hi Jun 16 08:52:24 morning hotdp Jun 16 09:09:04 hi there Jun 16 09:10:51 Hi Jun 16 09:11:40 warpdesign__ i have send an PM Jun 16 09:11:52 hi warpdesign Jun 16 09:27:37 Do any know where i can find the code demonstrated: Stanford: Developing Games for the Web - Lecture 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnwG8Xb0_S8&feature=player_embedded Jun 16 09:28:23 the flying palm logos? Jun 16 09:28:51 No 15.30 in Jun 16 09:29:14 And. Yer general. Would like to see the code Jun 16 09:30:16 Its strange if its not avalible? Jun 16 09:30:52 ask @balmer on twitter Jun 16 09:31:14 or take the code from screengrabs .. i did that for the flying palm logo example Jun 16 09:31:22 he did the same talk at the developer days Jun 16 12:54:50 hi Jun 16 13:01:02 morn'n warpdesign__ Jun 16 13:03:04 heya Jun 16 13:05:15 ye p! Jun 16 13:05:55 switzerland:spain soon #worldcup Jun 16 13:16:01 morning Jun 16 13:18:32 morning Jun 16 13:26:45 bbl Jun 16 14:07:30 rehi (mobile on the train) Jun 16 14:13:31 re hi ;) Jun 16 14:13:48 lets see how good this connection is Jun 16 14:20:21 I have a random bug and I'd like to check the html of the page when it happens. I've set up a button that triggers Mojo.Log.info(...some html... ) but I only get part of the html :( Jun 16 14:20:27 is Mojo.Log.info very limited in how many characters it can handle ? Jun 16 14:21:48 or is there a better way to check on the html ? (the bug only seemed to appear on the actual device so far, couldn't get it on the emulator, so palmInspector is not an option) Jun 16 14:22:32 you could add your own overlay console Jun 16 14:22:38 and have you debug printed here Jun 16 14:22:42 that's what i am using Jun 16 14:23:15 you mean dump the text in a div on scren ? Jun 16 14:23:21 basically, tes Jun 16 14:23:22 yes Jun 16 14:23:52 that's not very convenient here :/ Jun 16 14:25:23 the issue is related to a drag'n'drop action on a nonscrollable scene Jun 16 14:25:38 yeah, so ? Jun 16 14:25:49 so I have no place where I could dump the html without preventing me from using the ui and generating the bug Jun 16 14:26:13 well, my console is hidden most of the time Jun 16 14:26:23 then you may bring it over with some key/gesture Jun 16 14:26:33 not preventing you from testing your ui Jun 16 14:26:41 right Jun 16 14:26:53 it's gonna be harder than I thought Jun 16 14:27:19 why doesn't the Mojo.Log.info handle it anyway ? It's not that much text after all Jun 16 14:27:44 I have no idea, and i haven't seen you code, can't know ;) Jun 16 14:28:31

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oops Jun 16 14:28:53 well anyway, that's how the log ends up Jun 16 14:29:00 in the middle of a piece of html Jun 16 14:29:20 hmm.. weird Jun 16 14:31:28 Famic, any chance i could have a look at your code/project ? Jun 16 14:33:48 warpdesign__: I'll send you mine in a little while here. Jun 16 14:38:31 anyone know if individual items within a list can be disabled? Jun 16 14:38:40 (and not the list as a whole) Jun 16 14:40:22 HattCzech_work: what do you mean by disabled in a list ? Jun 16 14:40:40 let's say i have 3 items... i want 2 of them selectable Jun 16 14:40:59 the third i'd like a different color and non-tappable Jun 16 14:41:12 but i'm not sure how to manage that :) Jun 16 14:41:39 what widget are you using ? Jun 16 14:41:47 list widget Jun 16 14:42:39 html select can have a disabled option, so I suppose that can be done with the widget too Jun 16 14:43:27 disabled Boolean No false Model property name for disabled. Jun 16 14:48:55 HattCzech_work: you can add a 'class' field in ur list model Jun 16 14:49:16 put a placeholder for that is ur class of the row Jun 16 14:49:21 is=in Jun 16 14:49:26 shucks, anyone ran into corrupt cookies? Jun 16 14:50:14 fix up the css to add that class to .palm-row.yourclassfield Jun 16 14:50:30 same with .selected Jun 16 14:50:53 okay, cool, i'll play with that Jun 16 14:51:00 then in ur tap handler....etc Jun 16 14:51:31 add the class in the model or the item? Jun 16 14:52:09 in the item(s) Jun 16 14:52:57 well.. I guess ud have to add a modelChanged in there too to add it dynamically Jun 16 14:53:26 or noticeUpdatedItems... Jun 16 14:57:20 ok Jun 16 14:58:15 Famic: Mojo.Log output should get you more than that, around 200-something chars Jun 16 14:58:59 sugardave: I got about 800 chars / 900 bytes Jun 16 14:59:12 yeah, but it chopped way before that Jun 16 14:59:14 ? Jun 16 14:59:21 the 200, I mean Jun 16 14:59:29 no, that's what I have. And I need more Jun 16 15:00:02 div update is probably the only way, I've never used palm-log so I don't know how much it can display Jun 16 15:13:24 hallo Jun 16 15:15:04 morning Jun 16 15:25:01 sugardave: what kind of project did you pick up for that client Jun 16 15:34:07 morning all Jun 16 15:39:51 codeslaw: I'm making a framework where he can make multiple ringtone apps Jun 16 15:40:06 well, more of a skinning system Jun 16 15:40:16 right on Jun 16 15:40:57 yeah, I'm almost done with the auto-list generation stuff Jun 16 15:41:03 that's the hardest technical part Jun 16 15:41:11 then it's time to bang my head on HTML/CSS :D Jun 16 15:41:11 right on Jun 16 15:41:16 always fun Jun 16 15:44:17 any palm reviewers here? Jun 16 15:44:28 I need an app rejection request approved Jun 16 15:54:23 what up peoples Jun 16 15:55:00 nothing much here Jun 16 15:55:49 awesome, business as usual. Jun 16 15:56:53 can you do conditionals with html values? ({#value}) Jun 16 15:57:19 so if i have #{value} and value = true... can i have it output "test" instead of "true"? Jun 16 15:57:41 Hrm... this is interesting... Jun 16 15:57:56 Ajax.Request returns success when I typoed the name of my domain. Jun 16 16:00:55 hey chuqui Jun 16 16:01:03 hey! morning! Jun 16 16:01:30 Roy-Pre101: you might be getting a well-formed response from your DNS trying to "help" you find relevant sites Jun 16 16:01:49 chuqui: Morning! Jun 16 16:02:02 Morning chuqui !!!! Jun 16 16:02:04 Mmmm, could be. Jun 16 16:02:22 The status is 0 though. Jun 16 16:02:30 HattCzech_work: I think you use dataFormatters for that, but I'm not sure Jun 16 16:02:59 ahhh, i think i've used those before Jun 16 16:03:39 Roy-Pre101: I think status 0 is considered 'success'...give me a couple of days, I'll be face first in Ajax again :P Jun 16 16:03:43 hmmm, BigBiff's suggestion doesn't seem to be working Jun 16 16:06:45 nice, I had -two- typos in the domain name for my ajax request. Jun 16 16:07:20 if i want a function to loop infinitely with a delay is the best method to put setTimeout(funcName(), monring chuqui Jun 16 16:10:05 Argh. Now, responseJSON is null even though evalJSON is true. Jun 16 16:11:18 responseText is the JSON I expected. Jun 16 16:16:02 aha, have to use evalJSON: 'force' Jun 16 16:17:24 Roy-Pre101: ya, i ran into that. not sure what my web service was doing wrong, but force was a lifesaver Jun 16 16:21:44 I better make sure force is documented on webos101.com Jun 16 16:24:21 anyone knows if we can extend the number of characters Mojo.Log.info() can handle ? Jun 16 16:24:50 so, in the process of making a HUGE thread about why the hell my opengl textures aren't working, i inadvertently fixed the issue Jun 16 16:25:01 mostly... Jun 16 17:10:01 codeslaw: i do that often when i got to ask questions on IRC Jun 16 17:10:10 a lot of times simply writing out the question helps Jun 16 17:14:44 I have submittet a app for 1 hour ago and have found a bug.. what can i do? :( Jun 16 17:18:57 Any? Jun 16 17:27:26 argh. loops anger me Jun 16 17:28:46 I had a good fight with a loop last night Jun 16 17:29:13 slept on it... figured it out this morning Jun 16 17:30:36 HotDP: request a rejection on the app Jun 16 17:30:37 Any please? Jun 16 17:30:52 fix the bug, then re-submit Jun 16 17:30:53 Shall i pay to submit igen again then HattCzech_work ? Jun 16 17:31:04 it may take some time to get through, though Jun 16 17:31:10 you only pay once Jun 16 17:31:24 oh, this was the first time Jun 16 17:31:26 ? Jun 16 17:31:48 chuqui: do you have an answer as to what HotDP should do? Jun 16 17:32:27 Yer its a new app :( Jun 16 17:32:41 i have allready fixed.. i know i did a mistake :( Jun 16 17:32:57 Dont wonna pay the fee again but the bug is also not good :( Jun 16 17:33:44 request a rejection, send me an email (pdc@) so I can alert the team to process the rejection, and then resubmit Jun 16 17:34:45 chuqui, so i request rejection, email you on? And when i resubmit i dont have to pay again? Jun 16 17:34:50 there you have it, HotDP... and thanks, chuqui Jun 16 17:35:21 once it's rejected, it'll still be in your 'my apps' section Jun 16 17:35:28 then you can update it Jun 16 17:35:36 Aha great Jun 16 17:35:44 Is he email pdc@ what? Jun 16 17:36:01 @palm.com Jun 16 17:36:39 no, won't need to pay again, you go in and update the app, don't delete it and start over. reject it and submit an update. Jun 16 17:38:57 chuqui, thanks alot! i have send you an email. As soon as it is recjected i can update it? Jun 16 17:39:45 yes Jun 16 17:40:04 guys, is it possible to change keyboard layout on palm pre? Jun 16 17:40:11 i want to make my own Jun 16 17:40:37 HattCzech_work, thanks for helping me Jun 16 17:41:03 I normally test alot! but outcommented something last minut.. bad ideer :s Jun 16 17:44:09 please help Jun 16 17:44:25 i tried loadkeys, but it does not work Jun 16 17:45:06 do i need change keycodes or smthng like this? Jun 16 17:45:20 how can i do it? Jun 16 17:45:38 PDK, SDK, Java? Jun 16 17:45:56 or patch of some mojo framework files Jun 16 17:47:02 no clue :-( Jun 16 17:51:20 hey hey all Jun 16 17:52:39 :( Jun 16 17:53:55 sadface? Jun 16 17:57:33 hi pandora Jun 16 18:06:49 heyo Jun 16 18:07:03 Hey, I need some help testing an app in the international markets. Anyone from any other country other than the US that has a minute to test an app? Jun 16 18:11:39 what test? Jun 16 18:23:17 I am pulling lists of apps from the catalog feed, but I want to make sure only the right ones are showing. Jun 16 18:37:30 are some of the feeds not working? Jun 16 18:40:18 is there a way to an audio sound? Jun 16 18:53:26 heh, what i meant to say was, is there a way to _loop_ an audio sound Jun 16 18:54:42 maik: Listen for the end event and start it again Jun 16 18:55:16 how...seamless is it? Jun 16 18:55:26 i guess i should just try Jun 16 18:56:18 maik: Not very seamless. Jun 16 18:56:19 anyone know how to view the image of an album cover embedded in an mp3? Jun 16 18:56:30 awe :( Jun 16 18:56:35 the filepicker returns iconPath, but displaying it doesn't seem to work Jun 16 18:57:31 it's not seamless at all Jun 16 19:01:26 anyone know how to keep a spinner from freezing while receiving from ajax req? Jun 16 19:03:23 haven't had to deal with that, so i'm not sure Jun 16 19:04:00 haven't experienced it freezing, just continually spinning when the ajax req hangs. Jun 16 19:04:45 it just freezes when the data is coming in Jun 16 19:07:46 * maik rocks out Jun 16 19:07:52 LOVIN' AN ELEVATOR! Jun 16 19:08:32 hm? Jun 16 19:08:34 loving an elevator? Jun 16 19:08:36 that seems weird Jun 16 19:12:00 damn aerosmith blocks their lyrics from TuneWiki Jun 16 19:12:05 oh well Jun 16 19:12:30 it's most assuredly "Love in..." Jun 16 19:12:56 nonsense! Jun 16 19:13:41 * maik grumbles at audio Jun 16 19:13:56 there should be a this.mysound.loop Jun 16 19:14:03 it's been a year and Mojo audio STILL SUCKS Jun 16 19:14:18 Palm: ^^^^^^ Jun 16 19:14:24 maybe i'll just make this clip realllllllllllyyyyyyy long Jun 16 19:15:46 anyone know how to view the image of an album cover embedded in an mp3? (the filepicker returns iconPath, but displaying it doesn't seem to work) Jun 16 19:16:06 HattCzech_work: no-eye deer Jun 16 19:16:23 me neither :/ Jun 16 19:26:29 figured it out... Jun 16 19:26:34 anyone know what the crop options are for extractfs? Jun 16 19:31:52 holy good god this is terrible Jun 16 19:32:13 how are you supposed to loop a siren if it breaks for 3 seconds after one blip Jun 16 19:32:23 i guess 1 second, but still, what the fuck Jun 16 19:38:24 HattCzech_work: put it on the wiki Jun 16 19:40:40 there are a couple of thing i need to remember to put on there Jun 16 19:40:52 now to just remember what they are when i have time... Jun 16 19:41:43 HattCzech_work: purchase a copy of Done to help you remember... :) Jun 16 19:42:17 heheheh Jun 16 19:42:37 (or DL it for feee from precentral) Jun 16 19:42:39 i think after today's hot apps update... i won't be at 221 any more :( Jun 16 19:44:07 it's actually pretty nice running in the emu Jun 16 20:18:52 http://www.precentral.net/app-gallery/app-catalog/boobs-girls-free haha, terrible Jun 16 20:23:14 Good night ppl Jun 16 20:25:23 lol Jun 16 20:25:26 maik: nice. Jun 16 20:25:43 maik: and the description: "Grils update every day! Enjoy ^.^" Jun 16 20:25:46 *sigh* lol Jun 16 20:25:49 heh Jun 16 20:26:00 why even put this app out? Jun 16 20:26:08 just search google "girls boobs" or something Jun 16 20:28:36 we don't want pornography, thank you very much! Jun 16 20:32:20 well i wouldn't go that far Jun 16 20:32:27 i just think they're going about it the wrong way Jun 16 20:32:28 :P Jun 16 20:36:21 is it possible to play 2 sounds at once? Jun 16 20:37:45 http://bit.ly/a3c9rs Jun 16 20:37:54 a bit political, but word needs to get out :/ Jun 16 20:44:37 dang. wish I would have thought to name my app boobs girls free Jun 16 20:45:02 maybe 'free beer boobs girls' isn't taken yet Jun 16 20:47:05 haeffb-pre: genius Jun 16 20:54:39 add 'updated daily' to that and you win Jun 16 21:07:33 oh, case sensitivity, how you irritate me Jun 16 21:11:59 anyone good with handleLaunch in app-assistant? Jun 16 21:13:43 scored a $15 dell giftcard.. for no reason other than being a customer. i thought it was junk mail at first, thank goodness i opened it :P Jun 16 21:14:49 cool Jun 16 21:15:18 man, i feel very very sleepy Jun 16 21:15:27 what can i do? =-| Jun 16 21:32:12 arg... multi-stage is irritating me yet again Jun 16 21:37:35 how do you 'unsuspend' an app? Jun 16 21:58:25 dawm: wait it out Jun 16 21:58:29 ? Jun 16 21:58:38 oh, to put it back in after it's fully suspended? Jun 16 21:58:39 no its suspended Jun 16 21:58:43 lemme look Jun 16 21:58:46 i have on that's suspended Jun 16 21:58:49 was jsut curious as to how to bring it back Jun 16 21:59:18 ah Jun 16 21:59:27 you can "Update" in the app screen Jun 16 21:59:32 and probably resubmit from there Jun 16 21:59:32 gotcha Jun 16 21:59:52 my app sucked too hard for the store Jun 16 21:59:54 i pulled it Jun 16 22:00:05 i had to rename a beta app (forgot to put beta in its name) Jun 16 22:07:30 ah Jun 16 22:07:35 mine just sucked too much ass Jun 16 22:07:36 :) Jun 16 22:08:03 well, it was that it worked great in Los Angeles, but for everyone buying it, it apparently was crap Jun 16 22:08:15 baaaaad ratings Jun 16 22:12:04 HattCzech_work: what's the problem? Jun 16 22:12:59 so many things :) Jun 16 22:13:13 i'm trying to get the scene to load properly Jun 16 22:13:19 i can get it in some cases, but not all Jun 16 22:13:42 so if it's done on launch, it doesn't get the info from the db in time Jun 16 22:13:50 and i'm not sure how to update that info afterwards Jun 16 22:13:56 in time for what? Jun 16 22:14:06 not on launch (aka while it's open), i can get it to open Jun 16 22:14:12 for scene setup() ? Jun 16 22:14:13 anyone working on the PDK? Jun 16 22:14:17 in time for the scene to load and populate data Jun 16 22:14:20 have some IDE questions Jun 16 22:14:37 move your db load to the scene's activate() Jun 16 22:14:42