**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 26 02:59:57 2010 Jun 26 03:22:24 Hello Jun 26 03:37:31 hey all! Jun 26 03:41:31 is dawm here? Jun 26 03:48:07 this is damn annoying Jun 26 03:48:21 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7820 Jun 26 04:00:17 Good ol' palm! Jun 26 04:02:34 I'm not 100% sure it's not something I'm doing wrong...but I've tried lots of different ways to get around it...nothing works. Jun 26 04:12:18 I've even tried listening for drag events and forcing event.offsetY = event.y BZZZT! Thanks for playing! Jun 26 04:12:55 fun Jun 26 04:20:52 is it possible to use || in a case statement or do you have to do that cheesy fallthrough mess? Jun 26 04:21:14 hrm, should there be a problem creating a transaction statement inside of a dbSuccess? Jun 26 04:21:38 i think it requires fallthrough if i remember right Jun 26 04:21:57 i may be wrong Jun 26 04:30:48 Where is haeffb Jun 26 04:30:52 Or whatever his name is Jun 26 04:30:57 haeffb Jun 26 04:31:01 Bah bah bah Jun 26 04:41:59 i've got some sql code thats telling me "cannot call method 'transaction' of object".. its giving me the error on the nested transaction... are nested transactions illegal? http://pastebin.com/PZzVBvpS Jun 26 04:45:02 :O Jun 26 04:47:41 thats my reaction also Jun 26 04:48:41 i thought i could make sure the first function finished before the insert by putting the insert in my dbSuccess Jun 26 04:49:11 hmm, i can try something else Jun 26 04:49:12 your this is getting lost Jun 26 04:49:30 my this isn't the only thing thats lost right now Jun 26 04:49:52 lol Jun 26 04:50:07 i've been working on this app for 2 days straight Jun 26 04:50:11 brain is mush Jun 26 04:50:46 is there any way to do what i want to here? Jun 26 04:51:02 there's an example of how to do multiple executeSql statements in on db.transaction Jun 26 04:51:47 http://webos101.com/Mojo_Storage_Database Jun 26 04:55:37 and if you absolutely had to, write individual functions and call them in the right order from each one's success handler Jun 26 04:56:32 awesome Jun 26 05:05:58 rwhitby: also, I was able ot drive the swap file size up to about 121M before it started to blow out with TMC messages Jun 26 05:06:09 I was pretty impresssed Jun 26 05:06:25 the swap feels like it would normally on a desktop and I was pretty happy with it overall Jun 26 05:06:57 rwhitby: yes, no compcahe Jun 26 05:07:17 I think that increasing the swap file size would help absorb the leaks for longer Jun 26 05:07:33 something about the device isn't showing where the memory is being sucked up Jun 26 05:08:27 my ps aux doesn't show the memory hog from superficial examination Jun 26 05:22:42 bhuey: yeah, I haven't been able to see what's taking the memory either. Jun 26 05:24:57 http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/kesne/kso-mobile-login.png Jun 26 05:25:11 http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/kesne/photos-temp-0jpg-3.jpg Jun 26 05:25:12 http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/kesne/photos-temp-0jpg-4.jpg Jun 26 05:27:06 oh, launching is very irritating Jun 26 05:28:37 "_SDL_main", referenced from: Jun 26 05:28:38 -[SDLMain applicationDidFinishLaunching:] in libSDLmain.a(SDLMain.o) Jun 26 05:28:41 * Amaranth stabs this error Jun 26 05:29:43 any of you getting this on OS X? Jun 26 05:30:02 I thought it was only a problem for OS X native SDL apps, not stuff build with the PDK for the host Jun 26 05:34:19 na, i use a real OS :P Jun 26 05:35:06 OS XI? Jun 26 05:35:58 Wolvenhaven: You got the PDK to work on Linux?!? Jun 26 05:36:51 the PDK doesn't work on linux? Jun 26 05:38:05 Not officially Jun 26 05:38:19 You can hack up an SDL 1.3 and build your own cross compiler Jun 26 05:42:35 we've been doing SDL stuff in Linux for six months Jun 26 05:43:05 rwhitby: Yeah but I don't want to test on the device since I tend to build about once every 5 minutes Jun 26 05:43:09 released our first webOS game a week before EA and Gameloft :) Jun 26 06:21:59 I'm out Jun 26 06:22:01 Later Jun 26 06:39:51 anyone know why this doesn't work... ? Jun 26 06:39:59 Mojo.Controller.errorDialog("error"); Jun 26 06:45:56 Hi all! Jun 26 06:46:02 hey Jun 26 06:46:27 hi HattCzech Jun 26 06:46:36 JenP: would you happen to know why Mojo.Controller.errorDialog(message); might not work? Jun 26 06:46:57 works in my other app, but this one has stages, so i'm guessing that's messing something up Jun 26 06:47:00 no. pastebin your code Jun 26 06:47:29 hrm Jun 26 06:47:46 http://webos.pastebin.com/Dr8cRD0G Jun 26 06:51:58 man I really love the WebOS environment Jun 26 06:51:58 http://webos.pastebin.com/nhqpKyED Jun 26 06:52:20 how about going with a custom dialog box HattCzech Jun 26 06:54:02 extra code, but it worked :) Jun 26 06:54:07 thanks Jun 26 06:54:21 your welcom Jun 26 06:54:21 eventually i get that errorDialog working Jun 26 06:54:34 i never could get the errorDialog working Jun 26 06:54:39 can't remember why Jun 26 06:55:33 seems like when dealing with stages, it doesn't work properly Jun 26 06:55:45 it works in my other app that's just the main one Jun 26 06:56:15 anybody know if it's okay to have help disable or missing from the app menu on a splash screen that's not meant to be around for more than 3-5 seconds? Jun 26 06:56:43 sugardave: i don't think that would be a problem Jun 26 06:56:50 don't know sugardave Jun 26 06:57:11 i disable a few menu items on my scenes where they're not used Jun 26 06:57:30 yeah, I just remember help being tricky Jun 26 06:57:33 (like disabling the menu completely on the help scene) Jun 26 06:57:41 "always on" except for the help scene Jun 26 06:57:55 i disable edit where no text can be entered Jun 26 06:58:05 disable = remove Jun 26 06:58:17 going to look at the guidelines again Jun 26 10:00:50 hi all Jun 26 11:59:40 HattCzech_sleep: http://www.webos101.com/Dialogs Jun 26 13:03:32 morning Jun 26 13:30:47 hi Jun 26 13:59:03 does anyone have a scriptdoc for mojo? Jun 26 14:14:01 hi Jun 26 14:14:19 hello Jun 26 14:27:24 hey i am just trying to run the first tutorial app. but emulator complains a Palm profile is required. and creating new profile just failed. Any clue? Jun 26 14:31:14 I don't think I ever set up a profile on emulator Jun 26 14:34:15 me neither Jun 26 14:34:16 emulator just stuck with the profile sign screen. how do i back to home? Jun 26 14:34:32 close it, reopen it? Jun 26 14:34:34 it just does not make sense to me Jun 26 14:35:16 you mean close emulator and restart it? Jun 26 14:35:37 yes Jun 26 14:39:43 Gee..developer account needs tax id? it is too complicated, and it does not allow me to change back to open source account. do i have to give up? Jun 26 14:41:48 you can start a new acct. ull need tax I'd for open source as well I believe Jun 26 14:42:18 but isn't it just ur ss# Jun 26 14:43:21 just ss#? i have not filed tax for years. Jun 26 14:43:33 you don't neeed the tax id if you are not going to selle anything Jun 26 14:43:56 that is the required field Jun 26 14:44:14 write: NaN Jun 26 14:44:46 all foreign developers usually start without a TaxID Jun 26 14:44:56 as you have to apply for one Jun 26 14:45:36 in prototype, after setup there comes anpther callback, or? Jun 26 14:45:44 like loded or somethign? Jun 26 14:46:53 i saw that by mailing to somewhere, no, i give up Jun 26 14:49:32 eclipse keep complaining "The palm emulator needs to be running before your app can be launched". but the emulator is already running aha Jun 26 14:50:50 MetaView: I don't understand ur question Jun 26 14:54:53 BigBiff: well, IIRC there was some callback i nyour assistant when the scene is finished loading Jun 26 14:55:24 usually you have setup/activate and deactivate/cleanup Jun 26 14:55:33 but wasn't there something alse too? Jun 26 14:55:49 I don't think so Jun 26 14:57:00 are you thinking of the class constructor? Jun 26 14:57:04 initialize Jun 26 14:57:23 ? Jun 26 15:00:05 no, rather something which was called when the scene is initially displayed Jun 26 15:00:55 nevermind, I got it running, what I need Jun 26 15:01:24 I'm adding snooze time selection patch to UberCalendar patch but try to avoid to alter any html file Jun 26 15:01:54 I don't like the "i18n hell" which will break out then Jun 26 15:04:33 I c Jun 26 15:04:37 :) Jun 26 15:05:17 thought you were like editing in plain text editor and couldn't remember the methods, hehe Jun 26 15:05:38 So I gather some knowledge which I will use for better patches which aren't language dependend Jun 26 15:08:40 i have to say the concept webos is great, but i feel it lacks resources to catch up with the latest version, such as eclipse still 3.4 , vbox is 3.1 ,far behind release schedule Jun 26 15:15:17 metaview! Jun 26 15:17:27 yes? Jun 26 15:17:35 hi Jun 26 15:17:38 hi Jun 26 16:19:36 hi all Jun 26 16:20:44 JenP: Hi! Jun 26 16:20:50 Hi Roy! Jun 26 16:21:05 How goes? Jun 26 16:21:28 bleh...think i've come down with something...how about you? Jun 26 16:21:54 Doin' OK. Tired! Need to work on an app but think I might take another nap. Jun 26 16:22:06 smiles...i hear ya there Jun 26 16:34:11 nap? great idea! Jun 26 16:40:13 hi haeffb_pre Jun 26 16:40:42 hi JenP . Jun 26 16:49:56 Roy-Pre101: where is the page with the cross-app call on webos11.com ? Jun 26 16:50:01 +0 Jun 26 16:51:03 http://webos101.com/Cross-App_Launching Jun 26 16:51:58 thx Jun 26 16:56:53 how do I provide tech support in German? Jun 26 16:57:11 google translate ? Jun 26 16:57:37 haeffb_pre: well, post the question, I will translate Jun 26 16:58:06 I already responded in English...lets see if that works. Jun 26 16:58:54 heh. can't paste in wirc. Jun 26 16:59:01 \nSehr geehrte Damen und Herren,seit dem letzten Update kann ich nicht mehr synchronisieren.\n Jun 26 16:59:14 oh yes I can... Jun 26 17:00:08 so are we all happy with yesterdays news re: merger & 'new things' coming? Jun 26 17:01:33 yeah it's pretty fly Jun 26 17:03:48 Roy-Pre101: done Jun 26 17:06:35 what news? Jun 26 17:07:34 oh wow...reading it now Jun 26 17:08:06 is there a way to find out which webos apps are open source? Jun 26 17:12:47 the app descriptions in the app cat. don't indicate o.s. and I can't find any indication online. Jun 26 17:13:46 does cyrket show itn Jun 26 17:13:47 ? Jun 26 17:14:23 isn't part of the feed, as far as I know Jun 26 17:15:00 * MetaView tries to compress start and end free times in the calendar Jun 26 17:19:08 I had a look at cyrket and like metaview says I guess there's no info in the palm feed to pull from. -- makes it hard to collaborate. thanks for the help guys Jun 26 17:19:09 on an empty day: would rather prefer the whole day compressed or not? I'm not sure what I like more Jun 26 17:19:41 hrm Jun 26 17:20:20 does anyone have a scriptdoc for mojo? Jun 26 17:21:58 rcube: just checked it the feeds doesn't say anything about the licence Jun 26 17:23:28 yummi, strawbeery time and cherry time just around the corner Jun 26 17:23:51 thanks. I'll have to ask the devs directly but does anybody reading happen to know if any of the car apps-speedtrack,drag stats,etc- are open? Jun 26 17:24:17 what are you looking for? Jun 26 17:24:22 get the speed from GPS? Jun 26 17:25:28 I finally got obdgpslogger compiled and running in the linux terminal and would like to see if it could be integrated into an existing project. Jun 26 17:25:48 what is it? Jun 26 17:26:12 fyi: http://icculus.org/obdgpslogger/ Jun 26 17:26:43 it is an app that pulls data from the odb or obd port on your car like rev Jun 26 17:27:23 or like fuzzycar or dashcommand but open source Jun 26 17:29:22 you can check for errors and do all the 0 to 60 and dyno tests etc but I'd like to go further than the other apps to focus on fuel consumption, 'training' people how to save fuel. Jun 26 17:29:43 MetaView: ready() and readytoactivate() Jun 26 17:30:19 no, aboutToActivate() Jun 26 17:30:41 https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1627&Itemid=43 Jun 26 17:34:23 haeffb: thx, but was able to manage it in setup Jun 26 17:34:49 but I should remember this, will surely need it some day Jun 26 17:35:53 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7820 Jun 26 17:36:03 discuss, I'm going to the store Jun 26 17:36:37 rcube: how do you get the data? over BT? Jun 26 17:40:23 MetaView: excellent question. I can't yet. as of last night I simply used the obdsim to produce data for the obdgpslogger app. however obdsim Does have a socket module that allows me to connect to an ip address and I have purchased a plx kiwi wifi module that requires an ad-hoc connection, so in other words, I don't yet. Jun 26 17:41:11 today I am going to try and set up the connection in terminal to connect to the kiwi and then forward those data using the obdsim. Jun 26 17:42:31 the cards are not stacked in my favor. I couldn't believe no serial bt or ad-hoc a year after release but hopefully my workaround should do it. Jun 26 17:43:12 yes, no serial bt is bad Jun 26 17:44:09 I only assume 1.45 will have it but could be disappointed Jun 26 17:44:43 I'm sure you will, but don't know for sure, just a feeling Jun 26 17:45:44 the kiwi is expensive in comparison too: $150 vs about $45 for bt. Jun 26 17:51:53 is there a way to actually call Mojo.functionsfrom the PDK? Jun 26 17:56:42 bwahahaha Jun 26 18:05:26 sophomore question: is this the right linux command to connect to an ad-hoc? .... route add 192.168.0.11 gw 192.168.0.10 mask 255.255.25.0 Jun 26 18:09:20 I'll give it a shot I guess. Jun 26 18:28:13 :D Jun 26 18:28:16 Hello everyone! Jun 26 18:28:22 How is everybody's day going!? Jun 26 18:33:39 kesne: what did you want last night...? Jun 26 18:34:47 Argh. Jun 26 18:35:18 MetaView: You'd have to have a hybrid app to do that. What mojo functions would you need to call? Jun 26 18:37:23 I have a div inside a scroller and I want the div to occupy the full width/height of the scroller but apparently that's not working as until there's content in the div it's very small (and the spinner in it is smushed to the left) Jun 26 18:43:46 haeffb: The link to that article you wanted me to read Jun 26 18:47:24 Sheesh, how did I mess this up? Jun 26 18:51:34 is it possible to push a scene from a listSelector? Jun 26 18:51:53 JenP: yes, why not? Jun 26 18:52:07 that's what i thought too Jun 26 18:52:12 Roy-Pre101: hm, setting the size of the div doesn't work? Jun 26 18:52:48 ok, need to care for the childs, bbl Jun 26 18:52:51 Roy-Pre101: set position relative and height/width 100%? but I still think it won't draw unless there's content in it Jun 26 18:53:26 * sugardave is in CSS Hell at this very moment. Jun 26 18:53:34 but, I think I have made some headway Jun 26 18:53:52 sugardave: Will try Jun 26 18:56:22 * sugardave notes there is no deactivate event for dialogs. "That sucks." Jun 26 18:59:48 sugardave: That didn't work. I ended up filling the div with
until the content loads. Jun 26 18:59:59 And manually assigning the width on a resize event. Jun 26 18:59:59 bummer Jun 26 19:00:10 Should not have to assign width but something is screwy. Jun 26 19:00:22 it's Scrollers....they are screwy Jun 26 19:00:27 and messing up my WebView Jun 26 19:00:35 bastards Jun 26 19:00:40 bastards! Jun 26 19:04:56 I'm beginning to like position: relative...if you get it right, no messing with Pre/Pixi size, just give everything a top offset (bottom gets screwy because of notifications) and it's beautiful, man Jun 26 19:19:47 haeffb!!!! Jun 26 19:24:28 Hi Jun 26 19:25:15 How can I make a second line in a list item? like how Preware can show the price/developer Jun 26 19:26:28 just add a div Jun 26 19:26:31 twbbas: you would add it to the item template Jun 26 19:26:49 I'm using Ares, how can I do it with Ares? Jun 26 19:26:53

#{someProperty}

Jun 26 19:27:02 Ares? what's that? Jun 26 19:27:10 The online app maker thing Jun 26 19:27:19 On the developer site Jun 26 19:27:21 I know :P I don't use it, though Jun 26 19:27:24 Lol Jun 26 19:27:43 I use it just because it's really easy Jun 26 19:27:48 does it not make an item template for you? Jun 26 19:28:03 it would be an html file Jun 26 19:28:41 It has an html file for each scene but also a .js file Jun 26 19:28:44 The html file is empty Jun 26 19:28:51 All the divs and stuff must be in the .js file Jun 26 19:29:00 yeah, that's just the regular scene html (the empty one) Jun 26 19:30:19 twbbas: there are some people here that use Ares, but I'm not sure who they are Jun 26 19:30:20 When I go to open the .js file it just brings me to the palette Jun 26 19:30:25 ok Jun 26 19:30:26 as the magic 8-ball says, ask again later :D Jun 26 19:30:33 lol k Jun 26 19:30:38 Thanks for your help Jun 26 19:30:41 np Jun 26 19:35:47 Locked up Abroad has taught me one thing: don't have a boyfriend named Tony and, if you do, don't take him to South American countries and allow him pack your luggage Jun 26 19:39:54 ?!?! Jun 26 19:40:38 every time I watch this show, it's some guy named Tony who has put the drugs in the bag Jun 26 19:40:55 it doesn't matter where, or who the mule is, the other guy is always Tony Jun 26 19:41:13 It's like the rule of serial killers having the middle name Wayne Jun 26 19:44:42 LOL Jun 26 20:10:41 Hmm, apparently setting the body tag to width: 100% fixed some strangeness. Jun 26 20:19:53 anyonw know with these silly m:* games if it's beneficial to have duplicates of weapons or armor? Jun 26 20:33:39 cxreg: The only way to win is to not play! Jun 26 20:33:51 heh. i think you may be right. Jun 26 20:42:44 hate how the games have these crazy attractive pictures/icons that totally don't reflect how they're text/menu games Jun 26 20:43:21 dope wars is at least truthful about it I think Jun 26 21:12:20 torchie: one word: evony Jun 26 21:12:32 lol Jun 26 21:12:51 it's just a building game yet it has all those pictures of hot chicks near climax Jun 26 21:13:14 the least they could do is have pictures of people building things... or make the game about hot chicks near climax Jun 26 21:43:47 hi! Jun 26 21:45:13 Does anyone know how to use emulator with virtualbox 3.2.4 Jun 26 21:45:53 webos: needs to be 3.1.x Jun 26 21:45:57 I have 3.1.6 Jun 26 21:47:29 thanx Jun 26 21:48:41 I use 3.2.4 because it's supporting MacOs and I don't want to downgrade. Are there no solutions? Jun 26 21:48:54 I don't think so Jun 26 21:49:10 but, I haven't tried it...have you tried it"? Jun 26 21:50:46 If I want to start the emulator (on Ubuntu) I get the message "VirtualBox version not supported" Jun 26 21:51:43 yeah, that's lame...it might be possible to have a custom installation of vb 3.1.x that's separate from the other, but I'm not sure how to do it Jun 26 21:54:12 Usually there are no problems running old images on vbox 3.2.4 Jun 26 23:16:26 i walk in the room and its a nice cool 76... now it's 81 ugh Jun 26 23:20:27 turn your Pre off Jun 26 23:34:23 :O Jun 26 23:34:31 funkatron was here? Dawmn Jun 26 23:34:34 *damn Jun 26 23:45:02 hrm Jun 26 23:45:14 discombobulate: hrmmmm Jun 26 23:45:17 why does my webview allow scrolling to the side, where there is no data? Jun 26 23:45:26 hi kesne.. whats up Jun 26 23:45:29 discombobulate: ask sugardave Jun 26 23:45:40 wow the cymbells short ringtone is fly Jun 26 23:45:52 getting messages feels like a movie scene Jun 26 23:46:21 heh Jun 26 23:46:33 He's the one that had issues with it Jun 26 23:46:52 Haha Jun 26 23:46:57 It's pretty dumb Jun 26 23:47:56 yeah, it totally blows...mine snaps back though and won't let you go too far to the side, but my client was bugging me about it Jun 26 23:48:10 yeah it snaps back Jun 26 23:48:15 torchie: this is my ringtone: http://www.geico.com/public/ringtones.php?filename=ring_ding.mp3 Jun 26 23:48:23 but it shouldn't do it, dammit :) Jun 26 23:48:24 If I don't hear anything in my thread from Palm, I'm going to tell the guy it's a Mojo glitch Jun 26 23:48:28 oh my god kesne Jun 26 23:48:31 no, it shouldn't Jun 26 23:48:32 you have that as your phone ringtone too? Jun 26 23:48:55 well, good to know it's not just me though, i was going nuts trying to figure it out Jun 26 23:49:00 does the ringtone really save you money on car insurance? Jun 26 23:49:04 torchie: you do? Ugh Jun 26 23:49:09 ;0 Jun 26 23:49:10 ;)* Jun 26 23:49:17 two other friends and I all have it as ours, and we're waiting for the day we get called at the same time Jun 26 23:49:45 Now I have to change it, great Jun 26 23:49:53 I love that ringtone Jun 26 23:49:59 ring a ding is a masterpiece though Jun 26 23:50:06 you don't change it, it changes you Jun 26 23:50:10 it went off when i was in a meeting...made the whole day better Jun 26 23:50:12 hah Jun 26 23:50:21 lol Jun 26 23:50:45 i'm gonna join the club now and set it as mine too Jun 26 23:51:02 Okay, so long as discombobulate has it I guess I can keep it as mine Jun 26 23:51:33 everyone down here has salsa music type ring tones, so i should stand out nicely Jun 26 23:51:48 used to have Somebody to Love Jun 26 23:51:57 but that was back in the trimmin days Jun 26 23:52:42 I like to play the drums Jun 26 23:52:57 I think I'm getting good but I can handle criticism. Jun 26 23:54:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkVHdUkMJdk Jun 27 00:20:34 i just got done with a time lapse of the lunar eclipse from this morning Jun 27 00:20:51 where was that viewable from? Jun 27 00:20:54 i didn't hear nothing about it Jun 27 00:20:59 i'm in oklahoma Jun 27 00:21:20 started right before sunrise Jun 27 00:21:38 nice Jun 27 00:22:00 heres the video.. working on a close up but i have to edit 175 photos for that one Jun 27 00:22:01 http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1400497886698&ref=mf Jun 27 00:28:26 cool Jun 27 01:37:57 as of last night my sql functions appear to be working properly.. now to figure out why my list is screwed up Jun 27 01:38:50 progress is good Jun 27 01:38:58 better than congress Jun 27 01:39:11 hah, no kidding Jun 27 01:40:19 you know if they went through and eliminated about 90% of the red tape everyone would be rich compared to now Jun 27 01:41:46 its entropy in action Jun 27 01:51:42 i finally figured out that i can pass "this" to my routines... life is so much easier Jun 27 01:51:53 * haeffb is back! Jun 27 01:52:04 wb Jun 27 01:52:44 nice i bought a bunch of C++ books, and one of them pretty much repeats what the other one does heh.. doh! sending it back to amazon in the morning ;p Jun 27 01:53:01 yeah, some of them do that Jun 27 01:53:29 i used to be awesome at c++... now theres stuff in it i never learned about Jun 27 01:53:34 i want DOS back Jun 27 01:53:52 the one im returning has a quicker pace than the one im keeping, plus the one im keeping is like 3times the thickness ;p Jun 27 01:54:05 good move Jun 27 01:54:42 so once an app is ready, whats the best way to knock out the bugs? Jun 27 01:55:11 submit it to the app catalog. You'll immediately find bugs. Jun 27 01:55:55 as in they tell me the bugs or the users complain? Jun 27 01:55:55 no doubt Jun 27 01:55:57 and you'll hit the "reject submission" button. Jun 27 01:56:17 and Palm will say "thanks for hitting the reject submission button. We'll publish your app immediately." Jun 27 01:56:32 lol Jun 27 01:57:03 if you have a bug fix update do you have to pay to resubmit? Jun 27 01:57:14 no Jun 27 01:57:20 good Jun 27 01:57:26 god, how horrible Jun 27 01:58:09 is there a beta option to like put it out for a week in beta then redo as a paid app? Jun 27 01:58:46 I'mn not up on the nuances of this fancy "released" app catalog. Jun 27 01:58:47 dawm: accelerated c++! Jun 27 01:58:47 and why did i just say "like"? Jun 27 01:59:08 there is a beta option, but i'm not familiar with it. Jun 27 01:59:10 EmmettLollis: it's the beginning of the transformation Jun 27 01:59:15 woooOOOOOoooo Jun 27 01:59:17 I use Precentral/homebrew for beta testing Jun 27 01:59:30 am i turning into a valley girl? Jun 27 01:59:37 totally Jun 27 01:59:45 :o Jun 27 02:00:19 * sugardave thinks draft 2 of this application is nearing release-quality. Jun 27 02:00:27 awesome Jun 27 02:00:36 oh snizzadig Jun 27 02:00:58 i need to figure out why my list is broken and i'll be on the home stretch.. hard stuff mostly over Jun 27 02:01:05 (or so i tell myself) Jun 27 02:02:06 whats broken about the list? Jun 27 02:05:19 keep telling yourself that Jun 27 02:07:32 HAEFFB! Jun 27 02:07:57 really? where? Jun 27 02:08:57 iuno Jun 27 02:10:23 kesne: what you talking 'bout? Jun 27 02:10:38 haeffb: I need dat link Jun 27 02:10:46 which link? Jun 27 02:11:47 To the making background apps stuff Jun 27 02:12:20 well in my list, i push the record everytime it's updated so you edit 3 fields and it puts 3 items in the list... i think i just need to make an array Jun 27 02:12:30 The one you wanted me to read Jun 27 02:12:38 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=webos101+multi-stage Jun 27 02:12:38 And that I read, but didn't bookmark Jun 27 02:13:20 _ | | _ _ Jun 27 02:13:26 That's my middle finger Jun 27 02:13:34 it's nice being able to make the webserver do things that webos won't lemme do Jun 27 02:14:30 http://webos101.com/Multi-Stage_Applications Jun 27 02:15:56 webservers are sex Jun 27 02:16:25 Anybody wanna play Checkers Online? Jun 27 02:16:26 ? LOL you are 16 kesne... Jun 27 02:17:20 JenP: and? Jun 27 02:17:36 dawm dawm dawm dawm dawm dawm Jun 27 02:17:37 [19:15]