**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 10 02:59:56 2010 Jul 10 03:03:04 Spaz Hackathon 4 is tomorrow, peeps Jul 10 03:03:20 http://groups.google.com/group/spaz-users/browse_thread/thread/92f67b55b99ff131 Jul 10 03:04:19 is http://www.precentral.net down? Jul 10 03:05:45 appears so Jul 10 03:05:55 its pc. whos cares Jul 10 03:07:53 BOOM Jul 10 03:08:02 haeffb: precentral is up for me Jul 10 03:08:12 not for me Jul 10 03:09:09 now it's back... Jul 10 03:19:24 Is anybody here that I care about? Jul 10 03:19:33 ... Jul 10 03:19:35 no, go away Jul 10 03:21:01 (wow, did that work?) Jul 10 03:21:16 lol Jul 10 03:21:26 no, he's just mobilizing his DDOS bots Jul 10 03:21:27 :P Jul 10 03:23:55 is it just me or is webOS Drag Event capturing completely unreliable? Jul 10 03:24:20 lol Jul 10 03:24:41 Seriously though, 1/10 I get a drag end event Jul 10 03:24:51 Usually comes out as a tap Jul 10 03:25:14 i gave up on it and used scriptolicous(sp?) Jul 10 03:25:28 Ellaboration? Jul 10 03:26:05 Congratulations... Jul 10 03:26:06 http://script.aculo.us/ Jul 10 03:26:12 You managed to beat.. the whole damn ga-ame... Jul 10 03:26:39 GO TO THAT WEBPAGE WITH JAVASCRIPT DISABLED Jul 10 03:27:05 when i added dragging to swap&drop i first tried the Mojo Drag but it was poop, so i used scriptaculous Jul 10 03:27:23 ok, clearly i'm delirious. later all Jul 10 03:27:26 its an effects library Jul 10 03:27:48 rather effects addon for prototype Jul 10 03:28:39 dangit I use ares. Jul 10 03:28:56 still supported? Guess I could upload the scripts to a folder? Jul 10 03:29:00 yeah Jul 10 03:29:19 you just toss it into your index.html and use it however Jul 10 03:29:44 I don't need their prototype.js file right? Jul 10 03:29:56 nice. scripty2 (scriptaculous v2) supports hardware acceleration animation. wonder if it works on webos Jul 10 03:30:02 i honestly dont recall Jul 10 03:30:11 i just dump'd their archive into my /scripts Jul 10 03:30:17 and loaded effects.js and drag.js Jul 10 03:30:17 ok guess I should RTFM. Jul 10 03:30:23 ok ill try that Jul 10 03:30:56 yeah i dont have a prototype.js Jul 10 03:31:28 and this is the line i added to my index.html Jul 10 03:31:30 Jul 10 03:31:39 ok awesome Jul 10 03:31:41 looks like everyone was right, after 2 days sales do drop quit a bit Jul 10 03:31:59 How many sales so far emmet? Jul 10 03:32:13 EmmettLollis: what app is this? Jul 10 03:32:23 dohtem: slimphoria Jul 10 03:32:26 31 users.. 28 paid i think... dohtem its called Slimphoria Tracker Jul 10 03:33:48 i've had 4 downloads today so far Jul 10 03:35:00 anyone notice that app catalog reviews arent working? Jul 10 03:35:37 they arent instantly updated Jul 10 03:36:06 it gives a try again later message though Jul 10 03:36:25 or was last night and this morning Jul 10 03:36:27 oh Jul 10 03:37:21 dawm|laptop: the prototype file included is for desktop web for ppl that don't have an IDE I would assume. Jul 10 03:37:41 Could not submit your review at this time. Try again later Jul 10 03:38:26 webos has prototype builtin, but on a normal website you would have to have prototype.js loaded, thats why its included Jul 10 03:38:37 Yea. basically but I just said :P Jul 10 03:39:54 wow scriptalicious is yummy! Jul 10 03:46:05 Hello. Can anyone tell me how to create more appp launcher pages? Jul 10 03:46:14 n8chavez: Patch. Jul 10 03:46:46 n8chavez: download preware from google and search the applications > patches menu Jul 10 03:47:02 I have I didn't see it Jul 10 03:47:15 a lot of other cool stuff though Jul 10 03:47:25 Well theres a couple patches that do it so keep searching Jul 10 03:47:32 Should be in app launcher category Jul 10 03:47:40 I believe >_> Jul 10 03:47:56 there is. I added the advanced menu thinking that might be it Jul 10 03:47:58 but it wasn't Jul 10 03:48:26 Let me bootup preware and get you the exact patch name so you can search it Jul 10 03:48:38 oh, thank you Jul 10 03:50:18 dawm|laptop: is the dragdrop.js file global or do I need to type dragdrop.method.etc in order to access the funtions/methods? Jul 10 03:50:38 its globalish Jul 10 03:51:30 n8chavez: Advanced options in launcher, great patch must have Jul 10 03:51:52 I see that. It adds a lot of stuff Jul 10 03:51:53 that has extra page functionality Jul 10 03:52:07 although I can't see what "srapping" does Jul 10 03:52:12 wrapping Jul 10 03:52:37 click edit pages in main menu of launcher options Jul 10 03:52:46 launcher drop down menu* Jul 10 03:53:25 oh, I need to uninstall the configuration patch first Jul 10 03:54:03 halfhalo: you're a full halo in my books big boy ;) Jul 10 03:54:35 restarting... Jul 10 03:56:11 ok. I have the patch installed Jul 10 03:56:23 where is that option? Jul 10 03:56:37 the drop down menu when you click on launcher Jul 10 03:56:39 Edit pages Jul 10 03:57:37 hmmm. I don't have that option Jul 10 03:57:59 Odd Jul 10 03:58:06 Is it just me or is PreCentral down? Jul 10 03:58:22 Right after edit, right before edit quick launch Jul 10 03:59:16 it must be another patch because I don't have edit quick launch either Jul 10 03:59:39 SirataXero: it's down Jul 10 03:59:41 ahh yes Jul 10 04:00:30 n8chavez: launcher page selection tabs, must have imo Jul 10 04:00:34 so...earlier I was wrong. It is possible to put a scroller in a palm group. but, since I was using Mojo.View.render to render the scene and then an embedded Mojo.View.render for the scroller contents, I had to do the setupWidget in activate and then instantiateChildWidgets Jul 10 04:00:38 awesome Jul 10 04:01:09 I'm sorry I don't understand that Jul 10 04:01:40 Download that patch Jul 10 04:02:04 " launcher page selection tabs" Jul 10 04:02:31 ok. got it. Jul 10 04:03:03 and the patch you're looking for to edit add delete pages is "advanced configuration for app launcher" Jul 10 04:03:42 http://twistori.com/ Jul 10 04:04:46 dawm|laptop: would it be possible to use this script to capture coordinates only and not make my object movable? I need to capture canvas drag events. Jul 10 04:05:11 you should be able to get that normally Jul 10 04:05:21 Normally Via mojo? Jul 10 04:05:27 Or scriptalicious? Jul 10 04:05:50 damn, cannot install it Jul 10 04:05:54 moj Jul 10 04:05:56 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1438672/mojo-event-tap-how-to-get-tap-coordinates Jul 10 04:06:18 Yea I can... but the dragEnd event is inconsistant. It doesn't fire all the time Jul 10 04:07:15 you can listen to multiple events Jul 10 04:07:37 you Mojo.Event.tap Jul 10 04:07:42 bummer.... Jul 10 04:07:45 I know. I have dragging event listener and dragend event listener. I have callbacks for both Jul 10 04:08:35 So you're saying put code in both dragend and tap and check manually if dragging has ended? Jul 10 04:08:56 sure Jul 10 04:09:03 blah was hoping to avoid that Jul 10 04:09:09 tap will give you the coords of the initial tap Jul 10 04:09:26 you could also check the coords of mousedown and mouseup Jul 10 04:09:51 Yea I know all that, but I was looking for an alternative to mojo.event.dragend Jul 10 04:10:01 or mojo dragging in general Jul 10 04:10:31 n8chavez: join #webos-internals they might know why you can't install Jul 10 04:10:38 ok Jul 10 04:14:03 * sugardave contemplates a Stupid Mojo Tricks blog. Jul 10 04:14:13 lol Jul 10 04:14:42 ./subscribe Jul 10 04:18:04 * dohtem bookmarks dawm's link Jul 10 04:35:29 oooh Jul 10 04:35:34 option+sym+i Jul 10 04:36:09 its like WORM but onscreen at runtime Jul 10 04:36:29 Tibfib: hey tib Jul 10 04:38:35 Anivrom: howdy Jul 10 04:38:44 What time is it for you? Jul 10 04:40:35 nice, hear i made my own wrapper for Mojo.Log.* Jul 10 04:40:50 and theres a built in feature to do that Jul 10 04:40:52 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1565&Itemid=70#Logging-AddingLoggingtoObjects Jul 10 04:41:17 11:41 Jul 10 04:41:51 Tibfib: ah so 1 hour behind me. I'm just about zonked for the night e_O Jul 10 04:42:00 me too Jul 10 04:42:10 just checking sites before I go to bed Jul 10 04:43:34 is precentral down? Jul 10 04:43:39 apparently Jul 10 04:43:49 I couldn't get in either Jul 10 04:44:01 Nor a few others Jul 10 04:46:04 awww, the bot still isn't back Jul 10 04:54:22 so instead of mojo.log.info its this.controller.info? Jul 10 04:54:37 or just info? Jul 10 04:55:28 this.controller.info I think Jul 10 04:55:36 i just made a js function called LOG... much shorter that way Jul 10 04:55:51 although I don't quite see the advantage... can anyone explain a reason you'd use this? Jul 10 04:56:31 looks like just as much of a hassle to type this.controller as mojo. Jul 10 04:58:17 you can assign it to anything Jul 10 04:58:35 yeah, but what does that help? Jul 10 04:58:50 hehehehehe Jul 10 04:58:57 rollin mah own stack/array mix Jul 10 04:59:10 is it any better than writing a function called LOG that passes parameters to log.mojo.info? Jul 10 04:59:51 Mojo.Log.addLoggingMethodsToPrototype(myDebug); Jul 10 04:59:52 myDebug.info, myDebug.error ..etc Jul 10 05:00:10 i just ran across it, im not using it ;p Jul 10 05:00:16 so thats a little better Jul 10 05:00:32 my apps disable log output based on a var. since it apparently takes 26ms each call Jul 10 05:00:37 dawm|laptop: hah, I get what it does... I just don't quite see the point. I'm open to suggestions if anyone has one? Jul 10 05:00:49 do you think it's any faster than calling a function that calls mojo.log? maybe a millasecond? Jul 10 05:01:10 i think its more of a typing saver Jul 10 05:01:13 could be useful for games i guess.. but then you dont want to be loggin anyway Jul 10 05:01:34 heh, i prefer my LOG functon then hehe Jul 10 05:01:37 it basically makes a function alias Jul 10 05:01:45 i should rename it to L Jul 10 05:01:49 yeah i prefer mine as well Jul 10 05:02:05 since it prefix's my errors with a noticable string Jul 10 05:02:14 same as mine Jul 10 05:02:28 and if DEBUG is set to false, it does nothing Jul 10 05:02:35 sweet Jul 10 05:02:39 * Anivrom watches the battle rage while eating popcorn Jul 10 05:02:51 what battle? Jul 10 05:03:00 Of whos log handler is better :P Jul 10 05:03:10 oh heh Jul 10 05:03:18 probably dawm's Jul 10 05:03:28 meh, just use alert(); Jul 10 05:04:03 that opt+sym+i is handy tho Jul 10 05:04:45 oh yeah, forgot about that Jul 10 05:05:25 whats that do? Jul 10 05:06:29 try it out in an app ;p Jul 10 05:06:48 type in the words or am i looking for a key? Jul 10 05:07:03 orange button = opt Jul 10 05:07:13 so orange button, sym button, the letter i (eye) Jul 10 05:07:26 oh on the device lol Jul 10 05:08:03 wow pretty sweet. Jul 10 05:08:30 CAn you output logs to that view? Jul 10 05:08:38 * Anivrom crosses his fingers Jul 10 05:09:02 I don't think so Jul 10 05:09:49 Figured as much Jul 10 05:10:08 that would be a nice feature Jul 10 05:10:14 * Tibfib enjoys curshing Anivrom's hopes and dreams Jul 10 05:10:22 hmm that gives me an idea Jul 10 05:10:36 i bet you could write a logging function that overlays the info onto the screen Jul 10 05:10:42 you can Jul 10 05:10:45 might require pdk though Jul 10 05:10:47 probably could Jul 10 05:10:48 no Jul 10 05:10:51 no...it would be easy Jul 10 05:11:10 you have a point Jul 10 05:11:12 a div, with a really large z-index Jul 10 05:11:37 Which would capture all tap/drag events :/ Jul 10 05:11:43 nope Jul 10 05:11:52 theres a attribute you can use Jul 10 05:11:58 altho it didnt work the last time i used it Jul 10 05:11:58 o rly? Jul 10 05:12:02 lol Jul 10 05:12:10 but that was like 1.3.1 Jul 10 05:12:11 see mojomatters or stylematters it is in there Jul 10 05:12:18 yeah Jul 10 05:12:32 stylematters, last row Jul 10 05:13:46 Anybody here? Jul 10 05:13:47 The API I'm using has hyphens in the parameter names and my code is crapping out. Any ideas? Do I escape the hyphens? Jul 10 05:13:52 kesne: no. Jul 10 05:13:57 Guess not Jul 10 05:14:16 no where not Jul 10 05:14:16 dohtem: what api? Jul 10 05:15:03 I wouldn't think a hyphen would do anything... Jul 10 05:15:07 it's really hard to write code when there is a girl doing a webcam striptease... fyi Jul 10 05:15:10 although I'm often wrong Jul 10 05:15:24 Tibfib: it would be trying to do subtraction Jul 10 05:15:31 my-var Jul 10 05:15:33 turn off the fake webcam pr0nz then Jul 10 05:15:35 oh, that's true Jul 10 05:15:57 INTERESTING... I need to get sleep Jul 10 05:16:02 nah, its a girl i've known for about 10yrs Jul 10 05:16:19 just randomly stripteasing... Jul 10 05:16:25 she disappears for a year, then comes back and does this Jul 10 05:16:43 shes a teaser Jul 10 05:17:07 jnerhjkdfa[ bh Jul 10 05:17:16 stupid js with its not acting properly Jul 10 05:17:24 hahahah http://twitter.com/God_Damn_Batman/status/18143452634 Jul 10 05:18:26 she gets real friendly, then like 2 days later she gets engaged Jul 10 05:18:42 Tibfib: http://twitter.com/God_Damn_Batman/status/18055877095 is classic Jul 10 05:18:43 very odd one Jul 10 05:18:57 lol Jul 10 05:19:10 hahah, totally following this guy now Jul 10 05:20:26 crap! palm! run! Jul 10 05:22:53 theres this other girl i know that i've never met that im'd me that she was in love with me Jul 10 05:23:07 Is it weird to have a Keen Studios Online desktop program? Jul 10 05:23:09 out of the blue Jul 10 05:23:09 see palm run Jul 10 05:23:23 you told here you love her back right?? RIGHT??? Jul 10 05:23:31 heh Jul 10 05:23:32 see palm walk Jul 10 05:23:34 kesne: a little Jul 10 05:23:40 Tibfib: why? Jul 10 05:23:45 I met my wife over halo pc, we talked on msn for a few weeks and hooked up from neighbouring cities. Dated for 5 1/2 years and now we're married. Jul 10 05:23:55 i didn't reply actually Jul 10 05:24:05 Tibfib: I was working on a web version, but a desktop version is much nicer Jul 10 05:24:06 kesne: I'm just kidding Jul 10 05:24:26 make it with titanium Jul 10 05:24:30 two for one Jul 10 05:24:30 EmmettLollis: If she loves you then I might have a chance! What's your number? Jul 10 05:24:35 halfhalo: I AM :D Jul 10 05:24:40 lol kesne Jul 10 05:24:44 see, win win Jul 10 05:24:48 Er, her Jul 10 05:24:52 s/your/her Jul 10 05:24:54 fyi, she's a tad instable Jul 10 05:24:56 There we go Jul 10 05:25:05 Unstable? That's just my type! Jul 10 05:25:16 haha Jul 10 05:25:24 as in, really likes cats? Jul 10 05:25:42 kesne prefers to live on the bleeding edge of relationships, sometimes literally Jul 10 05:25:46 halfhalo: the issue with using it in a browser is I hate supporting anybody that isn't webkit. Jul 10 05:25:50 hahahah Jul 10 05:26:03 hahaha Jul 10 05:26:04 Anivrom: Dad, I am homosex Jul 10 05:26:23 ff isn't webkit. do you support that? :p Jul 10 05:26:28 the log is here right?? Jul 10 05:26:32 nice Jul 10 05:26:36 i met my ex on myspace... she was a big mistake Jul 10 05:27:06 Just like me! Jul 10 05:27:23 halfhalo: I support it enough Jul 10 05:27:29 lies Jul 10 05:27:30 It looks prettier in webkit though Jul 10 05:27:37 You get your pretty transitions and such Jul 10 05:27:42 It works fine in FF Jul 10 05:27:43 the girl i want just doesn't realize she wants me yet Jul 10 05:27:46 And opera Jul 10 05:27:57 EmmettLollis: oh she will. just stalk her. she'll get the message Jul 10 05:28:04 Aren't you married? Jul 10 05:28:07 heh, shes my best friend Jul 10 05:28:30 Eh, best friend relationships, tread carefully bro. Jul 10 05:28:48 Anyone have a touchstone back cover for pre they'd trade for a pixi one? Jul 10 05:29:04 (might as well ask) Jul 10 05:29:04 Tibfib: What makes you think that anybody is more willing today? Jul 10 05:29:05 she will come around one day... if not i'll meet someone else... her loss Jul 10 05:29:18 EmmettLollis: aren't you married or something? Jul 10 05:29:27 Also, your last name is hilarious Jul 10 05:29:30 marriage smarriage Jul 10 05:29:31 DOUBLE QUOTES! Jul 10 05:29:33 college ftw Jul 10 05:29:34 got it! Jul 10 05:29:38 i was married once Jul 10 05:29:40 kesne: because different people might be here? Jul 10 05:29:42 TRIPLE KILL Jul 10 05:29:55 so i hear next tuesday HTC is gonna be announcing the next 25 new android devices they plan on releasing the following week :P Jul 10 05:29:57 highschool ftw Jul 10 05:30:01 dawk STFU Jul 10 05:30:03 *dawm Jul 10 05:30:04 dawm lmao Jul 10 05:30:16 lol Jul 10 05:30:33 i want att just to be able to dev for android Jul 10 05:30:33 to me android phones seem like flavors of the week Jul 10 05:30:38 using titanium, of course Jul 10 05:30:39 Hey, anybody here want to help me out? Jul 10 05:30:39 HTC is like Taco Bell. Everything is a tortilla, cheese and lettuce. Jul 10 05:30:53 all my ex wanted from me was a paycheck.. and a babysitter for when she wanted to cheat Jul 10 05:30:54 im ok with that Jul 10 05:31:03 Would somebody mind shooting me Jul 10 05:31:12 pewpew pewpew Jul 10 05:31:21 pew? Jul 10 05:31:21 EmmettLollis: So I'm guessing you guys worked it out then? :D Jul 10 05:31:27 GOGO PROTOTYPE EXTEND!!!! Jul 10 05:31:30 Oh noes! Jul 10 05:31:33 I've been shot! Jul 10 05:31:35 oh it got worked out alright Jul 10 05:31:42 i swaer G4TV reposts the same tweets numerous times a day Jul 10 05:31:44 swear Jul 10 05:31:48 EmmettLollis: where did you put the body? Jul 10 05:31:52 swaering is bad Jul 10 05:32:03 Swearing is okay though Jul 10 05:32:05 Tibfib: if you have ever read the article where it talks about the problems with android OS compared to webOS its so true. they are in and out so fast Jul 10 05:32:06 lollis, heh Jul 10 05:32:08 kesne: in the dog food plant Jul 10 05:32:12 so is not paying. GIVE ME MY MONEY Jul 10 05:32:20 funny thing is, swaer, sware, swear would all be prnounced the same Jul 10 05:32:32 Anivrom: I know. I don't want webOS licensed...ever Jul 10 05:32:34 dawm just mindfucked me Jul 10 05:32:51 I want to get all the latest updates for my phone. not be forgotten a week after launch Jul 10 05:32:51 oh ive got another one Jul 10 05:32:56 Doesn't take much eh kesne? Jul 10 05:33:06 kesne: you know TIGER turns into PECAN if you to enough letter shifts Jul 10 05:33:18 to=do Jul 10 05:33:25 I'm not a smart Jul 10 05:33:27 man Jul 10 05:33:34 Tibfib: Yea really. webOS truely is the best OS by far.. its any wonder why it hasnt taken off on that sheer fact. Jul 10 05:33:39 Hey, speaking of smart, turns out I'm genious! Jul 10 05:33:43 Wow, Jul 10 05:33:46 I spelt that wrong Jul 10 05:33:50 Anivrom: cause no one knows about it Jul 10 05:33:51 hardware. next phone will rock. if HPalm doesn't screw it up Jul 10 05:33:54 It even underlined it and told me I did Jul 10 05:33:58 technology winners have always been based on marketing, not quality Jul 10 05:34:02 Next person that says HPalm gets shot Jul 10 05:34:06 HPALM Jul 10 05:34:13 Seriously guys, it wasn't clever or funny the first time Jul 10 05:34:15 harry palm? Jul 10 05:34:18 Tibfib: PEW PEW Jul 10 05:34:19 dawm|laptop: Basically. Too many wrongs to see the rights. Jul 10 05:34:22 i ranted on facebook about how i hate my ipod touch compared to my pre.. all my iphone friends had no idea what i was talking about Jul 10 05:34:50 I has ipad Jul 10 05:34:51 I once ranted on facebook Jul 10 05:34:54 Ever since I got my phone I've been telling everyone how awesome it is and demonstrating it. They fall in love with it, even the untouchable iphone users. Jul 10 05:34:56 it works pretty well Jul 10 05:34:58 my brother and sister are wanting to go to AT&T for iPHone 4... sigh Jul 10 05:34:58 I haz ipod 2 Jul 10 05:35:13 my mom is getting an iphone 4 through her new job Jul 10 05:35:16 I hate my phone Jul 10 05:35:21 Dumb Evo Jul 10 05:35:25 I want my EPIC! Jul 10 05:35:31 go die in a fire kesne Jul 10 05:35:38 eating a pickle Jul 10 05:35:50 ./me is eating a pickle? Jul 10 05:35:56 no Jul 10 05:36:01 he should die in a fire eating a pickle Jul 10 05:36:20 Homer: and that pickle you're offering would sweeten the deal.... Jul 10 05:36:20 Hey, is it too soon to make 9/11 jokes? Jul 10 05:36:39 It will ALWAYS be too soon Jul 10 05:36:41 ive been using irc since the days of netcom Jul 10 05:36:54 And is it wrong to ask a mormon to kill me, and tell her that God will forgive her? Jul 10 05:37:07 why is it a her Jul 10 05:37:17 GOGO GIT PUSH Jul 10 05:37:29 Because that isn't a hypothetical situation Jul 10 05:37:29 http://github.com/halfhalo/Node-Stack Jul 10 05:37:42 halfhalo: Hey, guess what, nobody cares! Jul 10 05:37:50 You're just like Raditz Jul 10 05:38:04 * halfhalo grabs his shankin axe and goes to shank kesne Jul 10 05:38:15 is stack an associative array thinger? Jul 10 05:38:23 noish Jul 10 05:38:39 I think I'm going to be Jul 10 05:38:40 d Jul 10 05:38:46 I think I'm done taunting you guys Jul 10 05:38:50 You are boring tonight Jul 10 05:38:51 hey! precentral work again Jul 10 05:38:54 its more of a "I want a simple array with get, add, and each" Jul 10 05:38:59 Where's JenP when we need her? Jul 10 05:39:02 \o Jul 10 05:39:22 |o/ Jul 10 05:39:48 O8-< Jul 10 05:39:58 Dual monitors is so awesome. Fullscreen code on one side, fullscreen IRC / everything else on the other Jul 10 05:40:05 tri monitors ftw Jul 10 05:40:08 _o| Jul 10 05:40:09 boo Jul 10 05:40:10 I have 6 Jul 10 05:40:12 monitors? Jul 10 05:40:16 web on one, code middle, rest on third Jul 10 05:40:22 * Anivrom shanks halfhalo for his third monitor. Jul 10 05:40:23 sigh. laptop Jul 10 05:40:30 6 monitors FTW Jul 10 05:40:30 nein! Jul 10 05:40:33 :D Jul 10 05:40:40 Actually I have a third monitor sitting beside me but I don't have a 2nd video card :P Jul 10 05:40:43 6 projectors at work ftw Jul 10 05:41:10 52" lcd right infront of me ftw :P Jul 10 05:41:12 why? fuck if i know but its cool Jul 10 05:41:18 One code, one Linux VM, one battery of emulators, one web browser, one IRC, and one generic shit Jul 10 05:41:33 dawm: mine has more pixels Jul 10 05:41:36 No space for more monitors on my desk at hme Jul 10 05:41:41 6x20" Jul 10 05:42:01 * Tibfib is on a couch. Jul 10 05:42:08 Tibfib: me too! Jul 10 05:42:16 you know... it's really awesome that liquors are sugar free Jul 10 05:42:24 one 22" 1680x150, one 21.5 2048x1152, one 24" flipped to 1080x1920 Jul 10 05:42:42 Halfhalo: mine beats yours mate Jul 10 05:42:50 Cool Jul 10 05:42:55 kesne heh.. if i count all the LCDs in this room.. 9", 13", 15", 21", 22", 52" Jul 10 05:42:57 are those screen resolutions for the next pre? Jul 10 05:43:03 My car beats urs. /win Jul 10 05:43:14 it has a spike for ramming Jul 10 05:43:21 I have a BMW :P Jul 10 05:43:29 which model/year Jul 10 05:43:32 i want a fold out 22" screen on my next phone Jul 10 05:43:58 with an i7 processor Jul 10 05:43:59 2009 Z4 Jul 10 05:44:01 * Anivrom watched kesne google a random bmw for model/year Jul 10 05:44:07 Haha Jul 10 05:44:08 watches* Jul 10 05:44:09 I want the x5m. Because it is just that fucking sweet Jul 10 05:44:13 I don't actually have one Jul 10 05:44:16 my dad does though Jul 10 05:44:22 halfhalo: i know rite Jul 10 05:44:34 I have a shitty nissan car Jul 10 05:44:43 sure, it gets 6mpg, but so does my current suv Jul 10 05:44:55 Although it's the same car that Hiro rents in the first season of Heroes Jul 10 05:45:16 gimme an american hotrod any day Jul 10 05:45:23 I hate cars Jul 10 05:45:30 I don't have one, I just bike around Jul 10 05:45:35 And big monitors suck too Jul 10 05:45:36 halfhalo: my neon in the garage will get about 11mpg as soon as i replace the clutch and get it tuned Jul 10 05:45:38 My uncle restored a 1970 maverick and put a mach 1 mustang engine in it Jul 10 05:45:45 I'm on my 13" macbook pro Jul 10 05:45:52 with positrac Jul 10 05:45:53 I want a 2001 volvo s70 t5 awd Jul 10 05:45:59 close to 400 hp I believe Jul 10 05:46:09 You all need big monitors and nice cars to compensate Jul 10 05:46:12 500hp is max street legal in canada Jul 10 05:46:20 hah Jul 10 05:46:31 Anivrom: so you get a free dyno to find out? Jul 10 05:46:40 mmmmmmmmmmmm.. 2.5L steel block inline 5…. Jul 10 05:46:48 Look at me! I'm adorable! Jul 10 05:46:49 Hum? Jul 10 05:46:54 * Anivrom pukes Jul 10 05:46:57 I'm going to bed, not like anybody cares Jul 10 05:47:01 nope Jul 10 05:47:03 how do they know the hp, without measuring it Jul 10 05:47:04 * Anivrom rejoices Jul 10 05:47:06 You know who's a cutie? Dawm! Jul 10 05:47:15 aaawwwwkward! Jul 10 05:47:16 <- a dude Jul 10 05:47:20 I know Jul 10 05:47:29 I've seen your pictures bro Jul 10 05:47:40 I really need to go to bed Jul 10 05:47:47 dawm|laptop: ah, you're right. 351 hp stock when it was manufactured back when, plus 50hp in other mods Jul 10 05:47:48 This is what happens after I take my drugs and get online Jul 10 05:47:51 its only like 10:45 here Jul 10 05:47:52 "12:26:09 Anivrom: Dad, I am homosex" Jul 10 05:47:54 Bye everyone Jul 10 05:48:00 It's 10:47 here Jul 10 05:48:05 god Jul 10 05:48:09 Tibfib: and? Jul 10 05:48:09 thats early Jul 10 05:48:12 Anivrom: how do you measure the gain from the mods? :P Jul 10 05:48:15 Indeed it is Jul 10 05:48:23 Not when you've spent the whole day blazing though Jul 10 05:48:28 I'm not a mechanic. He is Jul 10 05:48:29 sure it is Jul 10 05:48:48 it's all in the math Jul 10 05:48:48 a dyno is like 3dmark Jul 10 05:48:57 but louder! Jul 10 05:48:58 I know what a dyno is Jul 10 05:49:04 oh ok Jul 10 05:49:05 I like pain Jul 10 05:49:07 you can get a pretty good baseline without a dyno Jul 10 05:49:11 And I know he doens't have one, but I don't know how he tests Jul 10 05:49:14 My car dyno'd at just shy of 310 Jul 10 05:49:29 I'm secretly a 40 year old man Jul 10 05:49:37 my 94 jeep wrangler has about 325hp Jul 10 05:49:47 my project car should be at or slightly above 300whp Jul 10 05:49:48 I just pee'd myself Jul 10 05:49:53 my 03 v6 highlander has issues Jul 10 05:49:58 but it's got a small block chevy in it Jul 10 05:50:02 since thats what the tiny turbo max's out at Jul 10 05:50:06 I like to eat people Jul 10 05:50:46 kesne: if you want attention that bad just ask for it >_> Jul 10 05:50:49 lol Jul 10 05:50:51 Haha Jul 10 05:50:58 my next car will be a 09 Jul 10 05:51:00 doh Jul 10 05:51:02 I was seeing how long it would take for somebody to comment Jul 10 05:51:08 Anyways, I'm going to bed Jul 10 05:51:13 caio Jul 10 05:51:23 YOU HAVE SAID THAT LIKE 8 TIMES… he finally left Jul 10 05:51:37 hi guys .. my device showing up this activate screen .. how to by-pass this and use for development ? Jul 10 05:51:48 any idea ? Jul 10 05:51:59 step 1. pick it up Jul 10 05:52:11 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2051&Itemid=21 Jul 10 05:52:12 step 2. place yourself overtop of a garbage can Jul 10 05:52:26 step 3. proceed to drop phone into garbage can Jul 10 05:52:35 step 4. pour gasoline in garbage can Jul 10 05:52:50 step 5. ignite gasoline with lighter in garbage can Jul 10 05:53:10 step 6... Jul 10 05:53:18 profit! Jul 10 05:53:28 claim handset insurance11 Jul 10 05:54:03 does it cover fire? Jul 10 05:54:30 fire and theft yessir Jul 10 05:54:56 nice i want to turn in a chunk of melted plastic Jul 10 05:55:10 not to mention misfortunate drops in the toilet... had that happen. Jul 10 05:55:28 hah. my dad dropped his phone in punch at a wedding once Jul 10 05:55:49 I pulled it out quickly and took the battery out. let it dry for a day and it worked fine Jul 10 05:56:38 thats what she said Jul 10 05:57:09 Anyone downloaded that app? Jul 10 05:57:41 no Jul 10 05:57:52 brb Jul 10 05:57:59 basically plays a bunch of thats what she said clips Jul 10 05:58:20 does it have michael scott? Jul 10 05:58:52 yea Jul 10 05:59:15 pie Jul 10 05:59:20 I have a whole tab dedicated to comedic useless apps Jul 10 05:59:25 lol Jul 10 05:59:49 pocketparty FTW Jul 10 05:59:52 :P Jul 10 06:00:00 best use for ipad: ssh client Jul 10 06:00:27 gotta do it.. Jul 10 06:00:29 http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftechcrunch.com%2F2010%2F06%2F28%2Fiphone-4-vs-evo-4g%2F&h=09e96OrKaTv7hR7ULloZawZCfJA Jul 10 06:00:34 fail Jul 10 06:00:42 http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/iphone-4-vs-evo-4g/ Jul 10 06:01:10 cant see thim. useong cmd line irc client Jul 10 06:01:11 halfhalo: i think a buddy of mine was working on one Jul 10 06:01:50 im using issh Jul 10 06:02:19 it has the wifis Jul 10 06:02:23 yup Jul 10 06:03:09 hte wifis. i has them. and the gbs. Jul 10 06:04:11 another great one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSI0YjPFPoo Jul 10 06:04:26 whats it about Jul 10 06:04:42 best cry ever Jul 10 06:04:49 ew Jul 10 06:04:51 eh Jul 10 06:05:20 L M F A O!!!!!! iPHONE vs EVO LMFAO Jul 10 06:05:33 omg theres a bestcryever ipad video Jul 10 06:05:34 haha Jul 10 06:05:45 lol Jul 10 06:05:54 hahaahha Jul 10 06:06:08 * Anivrom downloads iphone vs evo to palm pre Jul 10 06:06:15 sooooo many Jul 10 06:06:16 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/best-cry-ever Jul 10 06:06:25 chewie! Jul 10 06:06:31 pie Jul 10 06:06:57 man.. i really hate the performance of flash on OSX.. its unbelievable Jul 10 06:07:25 i use the new chrome beta with flash built i due to it Jul 10 06:07:58 a classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU Jul 10 06:08:09 like i cant leave a tab open (chrome or safari) that has a youtube embed in it Jul 10 06:08:20 and one of my new favorite videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0D4oZwCsA Jul 10 06:08:24 i dont even have to watch it, it just has to exist and the whole system crawls Jul 10 06:08:45 oh leeroy.. Jul 10 06:08:55 im still waiting for tabs to close.. flash FTL Jul 10 06:09:28 its sad that my phone plays youtube better than my macbook Jul 10 06:10:15 its a mb. what do you expect Jul 10 06:11:13 bill gates: we'll never need more than 512kb of ram? Jul 10 06:12:36 yup Jul 10 06:16:23 ok, i think the stack is done Jul 10 06:16:50 mmm steak Jul 10 06:16:53 oh stack Jul 10 06:18:41 speaking of snacks where are those bassetts I bought today :( Jul 10 06:19:41 bassett hounds? Jul 10 06:20:04 bassett liquorice Jul 10 06:20:38 ooh Jul 10 06:33:09 man im so out of it. 8 hours of sleep in 2 days not good for concentration..../../../.. Jul 10 06:33:17 Goodnight Jul 10 07:08:15 i know its already an obsolete device but the pixi is pretty sweet Jul 10 07:08:28 i dont even have the plus since im on sprint and its the best phone ive ever had Jul 10 07:47:37 hido Jul 10 07:48:06 "you app has been rejected." Jul 10 08:24:10 http://www.soundboard.com/sb/hemaphore.aspx Jul 10 08:24:20 can that be made into a soundboard Jul 10 08:44:28 damn, guess not Jul 10 11:47:26 MetaView: for what reason? Jul 10 14:05:01 greetings and salutations from I-40 in TN, #webos Jul 10 14:18:08 wow, haeffb you are close to me Jul 10 14:18:24 somewhere between Cookville and Knoxville Jul 10 14:18:56 great whitewater there Jul 10 14:19:19 coming off the cumberland plateau Jul 10 14:19:23 just passing thru Jul 10 14:19:53 ya, caney fork one of the best kayak runs I've ever done Jul 10 14:20:24 you pass that about 4 times Jul 10 14:20:52 but not the whitewater part Jul 10 14:21:34 someday I will spend vacation in TN & do some rafting Jul 10 14:21:38 or kayaking Jul 10 14:22:00 come on down, I'll lend you a boat Jul 10 14:22:25 are you off to the beach? Jul 10 14:22:50 yeppers Jul 10 14:23:04 Sat thru Friday Jul 10 14:23:17 will be back thru TN on Fri Jul 10 14:23:31 if you want to wave as we go by... Jul 10 14:23:44 fun Jul 10 14:24:43 I will be writing a curriculum this week Jul 10 14:24:58 way better than beach Jul 10 14:25:35 way way better. I'm jealous. Jul 10 14:27:03 I assume ur going through asheville? Jul 10 14:27:16 is the road open? Jul 10 14:28:37 uh...? I dunno. Jul 10 14:28:53 nvmd, it's been open for a few months Jul 10 14:28:58 Ok. Jul 10 14:29:20 this is FTWV Tour 2010 Jul 10 14:29:54 "Follow The White Van" - white van full of family/friends while we follow behind in a Durango Jul 10 14:30:09 so we go where the white van goes Jul 10 14:30:56 heh Jul 10 15:04:54 Knoxville! Jul 10 15:09:31 woohoo Jul 10 15:09:49 I'm 80 miles ne of knoxville Jul 10 15:10:54 (we used to have a good football team there) Jul 10 15:11:06 :-( Jul 10 16:17:47 Is weird that when I see those oily birds I think of chuq? Jul 10 16:20:45 I'll take that as yes Jul 10 16:23:00 yes, you're weird. next question? Jul 10 16:28:04 haeffb: asheville? Jul 10 16:28:49 just in NC Jul 10 16:29:00 past first tunnel Jul 10 16:29:24 ahh Jul 10 16:29:55 2nd tunnel coming up Jul 10 16:30:32 woo! Jul 10 16:31:12 prepare to roam if ur on sprint Jul 10 16:31:25 coverage is pretty barren Jul 10 16:32:19 roam+charge+sprint nav = 130 degree battery Jul 10 16:32:37 +wirc = fun Jul 10 16:35:31 been roaming Jul 10 16:35:38 no wirc, I'm on the laptop Jul 10 16:35:53 writing code Jul 10 16:36:18 ahh Jul 10 16:36:28 pre tether? Jul 10 16:37:55 no, aircard Jul 10 16:38:04 sweet Jul 10 16:38:14 * haeffb uses sprint evdo aircard for home internet. Jul 10 16:38:25 until I get my fiber hooked up in the next week or so Jul 10 16:38:43 *that* will be sweet Jul 10 16:38:54 fiber is to the house, but not yet inside Jul 10 16:39:07 4g in ur town? Jul 10 16:39:48 no 4g or fiber opt here Jul 10 16:41:11 no 4g Jul 10 16:41:33 I'm about three miles outside of town, was about 2 miles past end of fiber Jul 10 16:41:50 local cellco provider is building a new tower & ran fiber past my house...!!!!! Jul 10 16:42:11 nice Jul 10 16:42:20 Uhhh GET SOME! Jul 10 16:42:30 oh, I'm gonna GET SOME! Jul 10 16:42:46 I'm just repeating what the TV says Jul 10 16:42:50 looking forward to streaming movies, etc. Jul 10 16:43:19 Hah Jul 10 16:43:31 Hey guess what? Jul 10 16:43:47 you got a turtle? Jul 10 16:44:01 How'd you know!? Jul 10 16:44:13 I don't know why I act so strange in here Jul 10 16:44:18 Maybe it's the inner me? Jul 10 16:45:52 the REAL you Jul 10 16:46:35 anonymity is emboldening Jul 10 16:46:54 * haeffb makes up words on the spot as necessary Jul 10 16:57:22 The thing is I'm not anonymous Jul 10 16:57:34 Some people here are friends with me on Facebook Jul 10 16:57:43 Facebook = my social life Jul 10 17:05:18 Beep boop bop Jul 10 17:06:02 I think I'm going to delete my facebook. Right now Jul 10 17:13:56 Nobody cool is in here Jul 10 17:24:20 we're just all pming Jul 10 17:24:50 facebook=evil Jul 10 17:25:31 I think the word haeffb was looking for is "embiggening" Jul 10 17:26:50 embiggen is a great word Jul 10 17:31:10 hello everyone Jul 10 17:31:24 hello Jul 10 17:32:28 happy saturday Jul 10 17:32:56 ITS CWAZY OUT THERE! Jul 10 17:33:19 where? Jul 10 17:33:31 There Jul 10 17:34:09 tons of tourists on main street Jul 10 17:34:43 shoot em Jul 10 17:35:27 lol Jul 10 17:36:04 my wife taking gun class today Jul 10 17:36:25 these may be my final posts Jul 10 17:36:29 Niggardly is a great word Jul 10 17:36:31 lol Jul 10 17:36:53 if ur in the klan I guess Jul 10 17:37:09 Why would the klan like it? Jul 10 17:37:26 umm Jul 10 17:37:33 wow Jul 10 17:37:42 dundundun Jul 10 17:37:47 kense FAIL Jul 10 17:37:48 no word on 1.4.5 or 1.4.6 yet I see Jul 10 17:38:02 Kesne is a racist... Jul 10 17:38:03 lol Jul 10 17:38:24 There hasnt been any word on the update and this is what this channel has been reduced too Jul 10 17:38:31 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/niggardly Jul 10 17:38:43 How is that racist? Jul 10 17:38:50 yes we need an update Jul 10 17:39:33 Because if you dont spell it out and push the wiki link, people think of it as using the n word Jul 10 17:39:41 its a perception issue Jul 10 17:40:07 that's not a word I'd say in the classroom Jul 10 17:40:27 Thats not a word I would say ever... HR would be on my ass Jul 10 17:40:38 heh Jul 10 17:40:43 or the ombudsman Jul 10 17:41:04 someone should tell Al Sharpton about the kids around here. They dug up the corpse of the "n"-word and have sex with it everyday on my street Jul 10 17:41:15 49 minutes for world cup match Jul 10 17:41:29 better to use the word in a niggardly fashion Jul 10 17:41:40 go spain Jul 10 17:41:47 wait Jul 10 17:41:52 BigBiff: that game is tommorrow Jul 10 17:42:01 3rd place today? Jul 10 17:42:06 this match is Jul 10 17:42:08 yeah Jul 10 17:42:11 go uruguay Jul 10 17:42:28 you mean the world cup is almost over?! yes!! Jul 10 17:42:34 sugardave - how do you have sex with a word? Jul 10 17:42:38 cardboard cut out? Jul 10 17:42:45 plastic inflatable? Jul 10 17:42:56 conctruction paper trace over? Jul 10 17:42:59 sugardave: yeah over tommorrow Jul 10 17:43:06 Sooooo glad this is being logged Jul 10 17:43:11 lol Jul 10 17:43:12 well, it sounds like they are...."n" f you!, "n" suck my.... Jul 10 17:43:14 etc Jul 10 17:43:15 lol Jul 10 17:43:16 will be on the freaking road, and will miss the game.... Jul 10 17:43:25 but without the wc what will i watch at work while not working! Jul 10 17:43:31 the games on sprints mobile tv Jul 10 17:43:37 yup Jul 10 17:43:47 out to fix my mower Jul 10 17:43:53 need to rebuild the started Jul 10 17:43:55 be back later Jul 10 17:43:59 have fun Jul 10 17:44:07 i dont own a mower Jul 10 17:44:14 and univision Jul 10 17:44:16 mmm its a 240 part otherwise I would just replace it :-/ Jul 10 17:44:42 I love the big mower scandal.. with the horsepower Jul 10 17:44:53 whats the big mower scandal Jul 10 17:44:59 * CTLAdvance runs to internet Jul 10 17:45:40 Uh oh Jul 10 17:45:45 * CTLAdvance hits head on while while running' Jul 10 17:45:49 manufacturers charging more for more hp Jul 10 17:46:04 how is that a scandal Jul 10 17:46:08 drinking cold ass - modelo beer - in fredericksburg Jul 10 17:46:09 the was no difference at all in the hp Jul 10 17:46:09 EVERYTHING needs more hp Jul 10 17:46:14 I think the correct term is economics Jul 10 17:46:18 need to find a bar to watch the match Jul 10 17:46:25 oh Jul 10 17:46:29 you can get 35 dollars back for ur mower Jul 10 17:46:30 no f=difference> Jul 10 17:46:31 lol Jul 10 17:46:51 it's funny Jul 10 17:47:02 Yeah thats funny Jul 10 17:47:27 does anyone else refer to their webos device as a "palm pilot" to amuse themselves ? Jul 10 17:47:35 no Jul 10 17:47:36 sometimes Jul 10 17:47:42 but not to amuse myself Jul 10 17:47:52 haha i think its funny :| Jul 10 17:47:53 all the manufacturers were doing it.. like a bad version of 'the insider' Jul 10 17:48:01 i refer to my webos as an iphone Jul 10 17:48:02 Yeah thats bad Jul 10 17:48:11 bad joke... JK Jul 10 17:48:17 Especially since the mowers are so expensive brand new Jul 10 17:48:31 the webos gods will strike me with lightning Jul 10 17:48:42 the last mower i owned was a push mower Jul 10 17:48:48 i has gardener Jul 10 17:48:50 yes, now they won't update for sure Jul 10 17:48:55 it probably wasnt the manufacturer of the mower more or less the maker of the engine, IE Briggs and Staton, Tecumseh etc Jul 10 17:48:59 "nothing runs like a deere" Jul 10 17:49:09 yay socal! Jul 10 17:49:48 lol - a "gardener" will be a bit more expensive in NY Jul 10 17:50:35 queue bad illegal joke Jul 10 17:50:42 nah Jul 10 17:51:16 in arizona - there are no mexican gardeners Jul 10 17:51:20 they look to mexican Jul 10 17:51:26 speaking of illegal, arizona is retarted Jul 10 17:51:35 Whys that Jul 10 17:52:01 $20 per hour white gardners that look like SS hitchmen Jul 10 17:52:17 You probably havent even read the illegal immigration bill so I think your retarded. Jul 10 17:52:32 lonestar orly Jul 10 17:52:51 CTLAdvance: neah, nothing to read, JK btw Jul 10 17:52:55 I love arizona's law! Jul 10 17:52:59 I support it so much! Jul 10 17:53:13 What's wrong with racial profiling? Jul 10 17:53:25 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/04/lawnmower_settlement.html Jul 10 17:53:27 racial profiling happens everywhere Jul 10 17:53:36 get you some $ Jul 10 17:53:37 Just that its prohibited under the law Jul 10 17:53:44 not sure where you think thats coming from Jul 10 17:53:52 illiterate liberal FTW! Jul 10 17:53:54 cough Jul 10 17:53:56 excuse me Jul 10 17:54:05 yeah but it is human nature to profile Jul 10 17:54:47 some of the most racist people in the world are wealthy mexicans against the darker poorer mexicans Jul 10 17:55:06 same in india, africa Jul 10 17:55:14 interesting Jul 10 17:55:34 class systems are everywhere Jul 10 17:55:53 we're still logging right? Jul 10 17:56:11 logging what Jul 10 17:56:12 BigBiff: yeah true that Jul 10 17:56:13 yeah Jul 10 17:56:18 so anyway how bout that mojo.view.render? Jul 10 17:56:27 cool huh? Jul 10 17:57:05 boring... Jul 10 17:57:14 so back to the world cup Jul 10 17:58:08 heh Jul 10 17:58:08 need to start making my way to the pub Jul 10 17:58:34 * BigBiff wishes there was a quaint 'pub' nearby Jul 10 17:59:13 here there are only places to drink bud and watch nascar Jul 10 17:59:19 BigBiff: need to find the one i was at 2 nights ago... Jul 10 18:00:12 nascar... speaking of racism Jul 10 18:01:01 Bigbiff: never been to nascar race, i am sure it is awesome live, but watching on TV, is too boring Jul 10 18:01:31 o, nascar definitely most redneck event Jul 10 18:01:38 yeah Jul 10 18:01:39 I'm not a fan Jul 10 18:01:48 ok laters, need to start walking Jul 10 18:01:56 have fun Jul 10 18:02:03 world cup? Jul 10 18:02:11 yeah for 3rd place Jul 10 18:02:32 Comcast downgraded my cable... luckily the games are on ABC this weekend Jul 10 18:02:51 yeah Jul 10 18:02:54 28 minutes Jul 10 18:04:08 and univision online Jul 10 18:05:06 suarez is back Jul 10 18:05:24 suarez? Jul 10 18:05:29 uruguay may pull it off Jul 10 18:05:44 soccer? Jul 10 18:05:52 haeffb: whereabouts? Jul 10 18:05:54 ya Jul 10 18:05:59 skyland for lunch Jul 10 18:06:05 now back on I-26 Jul 10 18:06:23 have fun watching the cup! Jul 10 18:06:31 4 more hours? Jul 10 18:06:32 sampled the exotic Shoney's cuisine Jul 10 18:06:33 Germany!! Podolski + Klose = done deal Jul 10 18:06:45 well, paul said germany will win Jul 10 18:06:50 it's already written ;) Jul 10 18:06:52 ahh shoneys, the food of champions Jul 10 18:07:10 ugh soccer isn't over yet? Jul 10 18:07:14 + oliz Jul 10 18:07:19 no, football isn't over ;) Jul 10 18:07:26 I say Germanyh Jul 10 18:07:45 just puked my modelo =( Jul 10 18:07:51 football has been over for about 5 months Jul 10 18:08:00 'soccer' the word came from england did it not? Jul 10 18:08:28 soc - an abbreviation of something Jul 10 18:08:38 suck Jul 10 18:08:39 association Jul 10 18:08:50 lol Jul 10 18:09:01 football = bad description for american football Jul 10 18:09:01 yeah Jul 10 18:09:02 :P Jul 10 18:09:03 there's also gridiron which is american football Jul 10 18:09:06 soccer is english Jul 10 18:09:08 ok laters Jul 10 18:09:18 need to walk before i puke again Jul 10 18:09:27 gridiron better Jul 10 18:09:38 oh well, it'll all be over in another day and we can go back to not caring about soccer again...phew Jul 10 18:09:45 "Association football" according to wiki Jul 10 18:09:47 hehe Jul 10 18:10:00 ahh Jul 10 18:10:07 well, you may already not care about it Jul 10 18:10:15 I don't see what's wrong :) Jul 10 18:10:26 yah...I'm already there Jul 10 18:10:26 I only watch world cup soccer Jul 10 18:10:32 not mls Jul 10 18:10:44 got hooked when it was in usa Jul 10 18:10:53 went to a game in orlando Jul 10 18:11:09 belgium v morocco Jul 10 18:11:19 very cool live Jul 10 18:11:23 any game where the world's biggest tournament allows games to end in a tie is just....unwatchable Jul 10 18:11:37 no ties in the final Jul 10 18:11:53 preseason football has ties Jul 10 18:12:01 because those games don't count Jul 10 18:12:06 well, every sport has ties.. basket ball has ties,.. Jul 10 18:12:11 I don't see what's wrong Jul 10 18:12:16 and are equally unwatchable Jul 10 18:12:30 you don't see ties in the march madness tourney Jul 10 18:12:40 why would it make it unwatchable ? Jul 10 18:12:43 nor ties in nfl playoffs, mlb, nba...etc Jul 10 18:12:52 bah, I don't like college bball Jul 10 18:12:54 the entire point of playing the game is so that one side can win Jul 10 18:12:58 bleh Jul 10 18:13:02 this is vi vs. emacs Jul 10 18:13:12 there's no tie Jul 10 18:13:15 hehe Jul 10 18:13:17 vim is the winner Jul 10 18:13:17 :D Jul 10 18:13:26 BigBiff: bah. college bball is teh shiznit Jul 10 18:13:46 as I see it, the goal of a game is well.. to play, entertain.. Jul 10 18:13:47 yah I'd much rather watch college ball than the nba Jul 10 18:13:53 heh, I'm short - there's a psychological complex here Jul 10 18:14:06 mugsy bogues Jul 10 18:14:06 football is a game.. Jul 10 18:14:20 the point of playing any game is to win. Jul 10 18:14:37 if you simply wanted entertainment, you'd watch "pro wrestling" Jul 10 18:15:06 and yes...vim wins :) Jul 10 18:15:54 heh Jul 10 18:15:56 that's your point Jul 10 18:16:02 my point is to play Jul 10 18:16:09 I don't care weather I win or not Jul 10 18:16:22 entertainment = bring all these topics up in the javascript channel Jul 10 18:17:33 = ban Jul 10 18:18:02 = good times Jul 10 18:19:04 hehe Jul 10 18:19:09 Is there any way this can be made into a soundboard? Jul 10 18:19:10 http://www.soundboard.com/sb/hemaphore.aspx Jul 10 18:19:26 I'll sum it all up for the logs Jul 10 18:20:08 niggardly, soccer, mower lawsuit, north carolina, pub, beer Jul 10 18:20:17 boobs? Jul 10 18:20:54 and you mean the session logs Jul 10 18:20:58 does anyone reviesw them Jul 10 18:21:36 sure we can add boobs to the topic Jul 10 18:21:41 we need a make it jiggle app Jul 10 18:21:54 well that's always the topic Jul 10 18:22:13 did someone say boobs? Jul 10 18:22:14 you must hate the matchs where the fate is being decided 3sec before the end then.. since the only thing interesting is that someone wins :;) Jul 10 18:23:15 and what is this soccer everyone keeps speaking of? Jul 10 18:24:26 EmmettLollis: it's like ping pong, but on a bigger table Jul 10 18:24:42 and nobody ever scores Jul 10 18:24:53 similar to hockey then Jul 10 18:25:18 exactly like hockey, except not at all... Jul 10 18:25:38 just with grass and without sticks Jul 10 18:25:38 I guess not Jul 10 18:25:41 that's a bummer Jul 10 18:25:53 the iphone has one.... Jul 10 18:26:26 boobs what? Jul 10 18:26:51 not tits Jul 10 18:26:57 http://www.soundboard.com/sb/hemaphore.aspx Jul 10 18:27:02 aouindboard app Jul 10 18:27:17 i refuse to click a link to a website that uses asp Jul 10 18:27:19 :P Jul 10 18:27:28 although.... Jul 10 18:27:29 my site is in asp Jul 10 18:27:30 http://www.brobible.com/story/13159429/50-hot-chicks-wearing-soccer-body-paint Jul 10 18:27:48 there...happy how? Boobs. Jul 10 18:27:52 thanks n8chavez Jul 10 18:28:06 oh.... REALLY thanks Jul 10 18:28:35 yep Jul 10 18:28:37 do they show them during the soccer games? Jul 10 18:28:47 GOAL!!!! Jul 10 18:28:51 EmmettLollis: now you have to make him a soundboard app Jul 10 18:28:59 i'd be more interested in soccer if those girls were playing against each other Jul 10 18:29:00 doh Jul 10 18:29:05 yeah, damnit!! Jul 10 18:29:07 agreed Wolvenhaven Jul 10 18:29:52 soundboard app... just use ares, drag a bunch of picture images on the layout then add an ontap event to play the sound Jul 10 18:30:28 damn Jul 10 18:30:28 the hard part would be finding original sounds Jul 10 18:30:37 one of those girls has pencil eraser nipples Jul 10 18:30:39 I have those Jul 10 18:30:48 damnit Jul 10 18:30:51 not the nips Jul 10 18:30:53 pencil eraser nipples n8chavez? Jul 10 18:30:53 the sounds Jul 10 18:30:55 lol Jul 10 18:31:01 damn you and your timing Jul 10 18:31:22 lol Jul 10 18:31:29 i wish freenode had setinfos Jul 10 18:31:46 you know i could have coded a new app last night if it wern't for that girl strip teasing Jul 10 18:32:04 totaly lost focus Jul 10 18:32:22 DAMN, GINA Jul 10 18:33:01 gina? is someone having trouble logging into windows? Jul 10 18:33:13 oh wow, i just realized there were more photos on that page Jul 10 18:33:25 That was a reference to the show "Martin". Jul 10 18:33:33 there are 50 Jul 10 18:33:36 in 4 pages Jul 10 18:34:01 seriously, how can I make that soundboard? Jul 10 18:34:03 how about an app that just shows those pictures? Jul 10 18:34:13 gimmie Jul 10 18:34:17 oooh i thought it was a reference to gina.dll (graphical identification and authentication) Jul 10 18:34:17 I'd buy Jul 10 18:34:25 damn scroll fades inside a palm group push my scroller down Jul 10 18:34:30 in Ares, drag out a bunch of pictures.. then add an ontap event that hooks into the sounds Jul 10 18:35:12 No idea what the hell you just said. Something about war? Jul 10 18:36:17 Ares is the GUI design tool.. it's a pain sometimes but for what your looking to do it should be perfect Jul 10 18:36:34 Hell no. I'd have to pay $100 a year Jul 10 18:36:38 no Jul 10 18:36:41 you don't Jul 10 18:36:46 it's all free now Jul 10 18:36:50 $100 for what Jul 10 18:36:53 have you not been paying attention? Jul 10 18:36:55 oh it used to cost? Jul 10 18:37:10 $99/year to be a dev, yeah Jul 10 18:37:12 noyt anymore Jul 10 18:37:16 not, either Jul 10 18:37:28 http://ares.palm.com/Ares/about.html Jul 10 18:37:41 where do I can it, and is it dumbass proof? Jul 10 18:37:46 no Jul 10 18:38:21 then I think I'm out :) Jul 10 18:38:27 just create a developer account, do one of the tutorials Jul 10 18:38:30 for ares Jul 10 18:38:48 just do straight Mojo...that's what all the cool kids do Jul 10 18:39:04 it's not exceedingly hard to learn unless your trying to do something special Jul 10 18:39:19 haeffb: make scroll fades and scrollers work in a palm-group, GO Jul 10 18:39:38 i have scrollers in my groups Jul 10 18:39:45 but i dont put fades in there Jul 10 18:39:46 bottom scroll fade is fine, but the when the top on pops in, it push my scroller beyond the boundaries of the group Jul 10 18:39:52 since i don't see a point to it Jul 10 18:40:07 I think I'd rather just pay when someone else makes it Jul 10 18:40:20 "in the absence of menus...blahblahblah...scroll fades indicate there is more content...blahblahblah" Jul 10 18:40:22 but you enjoy them boobs Jul 10 18:40:38 they still passed my app without fades Jul 10 18:40:59 right, I'm trying to be a GOOD webOS developer and follow the UI guidelines :P Jul 10 18:41:04 i dont think they were designed to be inside a group were they? Jul 10 18:41:25 hey, i spent 2 days getting up to code after i read that dreaded document Jul 10 18:41:31 maybe....bottom one works great Jul 10 18:41:46 it's really just the arrows Jul 10 18:41:48 but you say it pushes the scroller down? Jul 10 18:41:49 that I want Jul 10 18:41:54 top one does Jul 10 18:41:54 I think I saw a site that offered that offered projects for pay Jul 10 18:42:13 hmm Jul 10 18:43:17 n8chavez: there are a few, actually Jul 10 18:44:00 you could add a line to your list that says "scroll for more content..." Jul 10 18:44:01 Because I don't understand this stuff. Law school is easy compared to this Jul 10 18:45:08 not finding much on scroll fade issues on google Jul 10 18:45:29 EmmettLollis: well, I could do that I guess...however, it's not a list and I'll never be sure of the size of the contents...I'm building out a "description" based on ajax response then updating the scroller...so, I have no idea if there will be a need to scroll or not Jul 10 18:45:49 If only I had boobs,. and this was mardi gras Jul 10 18:45:54 sugardave: could you cheat it by adding a small div below the scroller in the group? Jul 10 18:46:16 open the group up more? Jul 10 18:46:17 BigBiff: ah, on top...that might work...for some reason the bottom one works great :D Jul 10 18:46:35 too weird Jul 10 18:46:43 mojo be glitchy Jul 10 18:46:51 hush yo mouth! Jul 10 18:47:17 anyone interested in making the soundboard? Jul 10 18:47:50 sugardave: lost my connection for a bit Jul 10 18:48:52 but I wouldn't be able to help even it I had a connection Jul 10 18:51:39 woo! 1xRTT Jul 10 18:52:44 1xRTT rocks Jul 10 18:52:52 Alright. Thank anyway. Jul 10 18:53:23 how much are you wanting to pay to design a soundboard? Jul 10 18:53:40 dunno Jul 10 18:53:47 how much you want? Jul 10 18:53:54 half a mil? Jul 10 18:54:13 * haeffb will do it for $250k Jul 10 18:54:19 no deal Jul 10 18:54:21 ok $100k Jul 10 18:54:28 $50k Jul 10 18:54:32 $25k Jul 10 18:54:36 I'm out Jul 10 18:54:41 $25k is reasonable Jul 10 18:54:57 I can't go any lower Jul 10 18:55:10 why cant i set my own APN settings inside the OS ? says unable to write settings? Jul 10 18:55:21 APN? Jul 10 18:55:31 seriously? Jul 10 18:55:56 bbl Jul 10 18:56:34 n8chavez.. are you expecting to make a profit with it in the app catalog? Jul 10 18:56:44 nope Jul 10 18:56:47 or just self promotion? Jul 10 18:57:03 I just thinki'd be funny to have Jul 10 18:57:59 do you have any graphics to go with it like logos? Jul 10 18:58:37 APN=3g settings Jul 10 18:59:22 I can find them. I just say the iphone one last man, and thought "man that'd be cool to have". Jul 10 18:59:22 But there is very little for webos Jul 10 18:59:59 there is Arnold Says Jul 10 19:00:12 n8chavez: have you tried this: http://www.soundboard.com/mobi/ Jul 10 19:01:29 there is that....just not as cool Jul 10 19:01:30 hmmm.... Jul 10 19:03:10 damn, that almost works...gives me space at the top and doesn't shift down...BUT the scroller is now ignoring the wrapper I put at the bottom of the group for the bottom fade Jul 10 19:03:13 wtf? Jul 10 19:03:20 Need a little help changing some onclick behavior. I've got an ad in my app, I'm trying to change the onclick behavior of the ad (there isn't one there). It gets thrown inside of a div. Instead of opening in a web browser window (which is how a refs are handled normally), I want it to do something else onclick. Jul 10 19:03:57 reality9110: listen for a tap on that element, catch it, stop event propagation, handle like you want Jul 10 19:04:08 That's what I'm doing. Jul 10 19:04:13 done! Jul 10 19:04:17 yay! Jul 10 19:04:20 It's still opening the browser. Jul 10 19:04:23 oh Jul 10 19:04:23 boo! Jul 10 19:04:25 suck Jul 10 19:04:30 event.stop(); ? Jul 10 19:04:37 ther are 2 things to stop with Jul 10 19:04:37 I think I need to change innerHTML onclick Jul 10 19:04:53 stopPropagation is one Jul 10 19:05:01 oh, the div has an onclick attribute? Jul 10 19:05:12 The div itself doesn't. Jul 10 19:05:18 the contents, I mean Jul 10 19:05:36 But, when the ad gets thrown into the div, it puts a link there. That link gets loaded with the browser. Jul 10 19:06:02 if there's an inside the
that you're listening on, the click event for the is probably handled well before the event trickles up to the
Jul 10 19:06:16 * sugardave might re-write the div contents. Jul 10 19:06:23 is it possible to listen directly on the ? Jul 10 19:06:35 not sure, but there are two modes for capturing Jul 10 19:06:41 capture phase and bubble phase Jul 10 19:07:03 if you set up the listener right (on the right phase) you should be able to stopPropagation on it before it gets to the browser Jul 10 19:07:04 There should be a way to just append an onclick to that Jul 10 19:07:06 bubbles?!?!?! Jul 10 19:07:39 reality9110: if you're getting the contents via ajax, just strip of the href tags Jul 10 19:07:44 off Jul 10 19:07:54 and then handle the div click like normal Jul 10 19:08:17 That's going to throw off a bunch of tracking stuff Jul 10 19:08:41 wait, do you want it to start a browser AND do other things? Jul 10 19:08:47 No Jul 10 19:08:50 Just do the other thing. Jul 10 19:09:00 because I guess the browser is what is doing the tracking? I'm confused Jul 10 19:09:01 I'm making it so ads appear in the app itself so I can take advantage of iAds. Jul 10 19:09:08 okay Jul 10 19:09:09 Tracking pixels Jul 10 19:09:34 so you want to not open a web browser, but send an ajax to that same url? Jul 10 19:09:56 Yes. Essentially, instead of opening it in the browser, I want it to open in a webview in the app Jul 10 19:10:23 hmm...you could make your ad display a webview instead of a div, it has the interrogateClicks attribute Jul 10 19:10:35 http://www.muffslap.com/football-body-painting-photos/ Jul 10 19:11:27 haeffb: you should be able to register a tap listener on an a, as long as it has an id Jul 10 19:11:31 I could potentially make it a webview but that seems like a complex solution to what should be as simple as appending an onclick to the innerHTML Jul 10 19:12:20 And putting it in a webview would screw up the code that resizes the images to fix the box. Jul 10 19:12:46 reality9110: look into the different capturing phases...I think that's what you want to do, capture it on the "first" phase, then stop the event Jul 10 19:13:24 passing true as the fourth arg to Event.listen make is capture on one or the other Jul 10 19:13:37 makes it Jul 10 19:13:49 I bet this is you.... Jul 10 19:13:52 http://www.muffslap.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jorts-8.jpg Jul 10 19:14:59 reality9110: http://webos101.com/Mojo.Event.listen last paragraph Jul 10 19:17:28 JenP!!! Jul 10 19:17:38 EmmettLollis!! Jul 10 19:17:43 :D Jul 10 19:17:43 hi all! Jul 10 19:17:59 217 miles to go Jul 10 19:18:04 hi JenP Jul 10 19:18:08 woohoo go haeffb! Jul 10 19:18:13 haeffb where you going? Jul 10 19:18:20 Murrels Inlet, SC Jul 10 19:18:29 south of Myrtle Beach Jul 10 19:18:32 sounds like they would have good fishing Jul 10 19:18:59 they might Jul 10 19:19:11 216 miles to go Jul 10 19:19:18 I'll keep you guys updated... Jul 10 19:19:18 thats what i should be doing Jul 10 19:19:31 215 miles to go Jul 10 19:19:39 i have a good spot at the river about 1/3 mile from my house Jul 10 19:19:44 what state are you in right now haeffb? Jul 10 19:19:50 SC Jul 10 19:20:01 alright, i actually know a guy in the SC highway patrol Jul 10 19:20:07 on I-26 about an hour out of Columbia Jul 10 19:20:08 if you keep up the countdown, i'm giving him a call :P Jul 10 19:20:15 lol Jul 10 19:20:15 lol Jul 10 19:20:20 lol Jul 10 19:20:31 did I say I-26? I meant I-85 Jul 10 19:20:51 "yea, i know of someone who is smuggling firearms, drugs, and sex slaves inside SC, he's on i-26 200 miles from MB" Jul 10 19:21:13 "he's hevily armed, extremely dangerous, and must be stopped: Jul 10 19:21:14 "* Jul 10 19:21:21 hehe :P Jul 10 19:21:24 send the sex slaves my way Jul 10 19:23:24 make it big selling apps EmmettLollis and you can buy a rissian mail order bride Jul 10 19:23:46 i knew someone who did that once Jul 10 19:24:24 me too Jul 10 19:24:25 never really seemed like a good idea to me Jul 10 19:24:26 she left him Jul 10 19:24:30 right Jul 10 19:24:37 get the visa and run Jul 10 19:24:37 she came to the US, had a kid, left him 2 years later Jul 10 19:25:19 cost him like $10k to get her Jul 10 19:25:21 she wasn't even hot Jul 10 19:25:25 and she was a bitch Jul 10 19:25:39 i would have at least gone for the super model one so you can have 2 years or so of amazing sex Jul 10 19:25:50 no kidding Jul 10 19:26:09 of course... the super model ones are the worst Jul 10 19:26:30 yea, but $10k to get them over here Jul 10 19:26:41 to be honest, i've probably spent that much dating for 2 years anyway Jul 10 19:26:50 it actually might be cheaper Jul 10 19:26:56 i only go dutch Jul 10 19:27:05 i'm not anyones sugar daddy Jul 10 19:27:07 lol Jul 10 19:27:14 i was raised with traditional southern manners Jul 10 19:27:20 tried that before, never works out right Jul 10 19:27:26 tried it a lot actually Jul 10 19:27:32 all it got me was broke Jul 10 19:27:34 yea, but i don't try it, it's how i am Jul 10 19:27:42 it's easier when it comes naturally Jul 10 19:28:03 a lot of the women i know get offended when you offer to pay Jul 10 19:28:06 i actually am uncomfortable not saying sir, ma'am, holding open doors, pulling out chairs, standing when the lady stands, wearing a hat indoors Jul 10 19:28:08 and stuff like that Jul 10 19:28:53 i'm polite like that, i just don't do the free ride thing Jul 10 19:29:02 mainly because i'm broke Jul 10 19:29:09 yea Jul 10 19:29:27 i always pay for myself cept when i hang out with a friend of mine who has more money than they can spend Jul 10 19:29:52 he always grabs it before any of us can pay our part Jul 10 19:29:56 i easily get stuck in "best friend" corner because i'm so damn nice Jul 10 19:30:17 lol Jul 10 19:30:41 i actually hang out with girls more than i do guys Jul 10 19:30:44 not many women understand that the basis for a strong relationship is a healthy friendship Jul 10 19:30:50 same here Jul 10 19:31:01 i thought it was good sex Jul 10 19:31:03 my guy friends are for drinking, shooting, videogames Jul 10 19:31:21 but food, movies, or relaxing stuff Jul 10 19:31:24 girls are more fun Jul 10 19:31:28 JenP... i've found that the better the sex, the crazier the girl Jul 10 19:31:45 amen Jul 10 19:32:38 sex was good with the ex and abused the crap out of me... never really cared about me as a human Jul 10 19:33:11 heh, my ex was batshit insane, but she was awesome in bed, so i dealt with it till i got ditched Jul 10 19:33:12 she was only nice to me for the first day and a half after i got paid Jul 10 19:33:22 ouch Jul 10 19:33:40 pretty much all of my money went to walmart Jul 10 19:33:42 yuck' Jul 10 19:34:02 i've got a friend who i've been on/off with for about 9 months, and she's great, and she is crazy Jul 10 19:34:03 The more money you have, the more women problems you'll have. Jul 10 19:34:19 there is good crazy and bad crazy Jul 10 19:34:23 i don't think i've met a single sane girl who is anything but a dead fish in bed Jul 10 19:34:25 doc for you it's the more women you have the more problems you have LOL Jul 10 19:34:44 Naw. I've got good women Jul 10 19:34:58 And they've got their own careers that pay well. Jul 10 19:35:20 smiles...then you're doing it right Jul 10 19:35:22 i've got a great woman... she just doesn't realize that she wants to be more than friends yet Jul 10 19:35:22 i'm a student, i've decided that women under about 24 are hard to tell if they're crazy nor not Jul 10 19:35:42 it seems that 19-22 or so is when girls go bad crazy or not Jul 10 19:35:58 i think anyone under 30 isn't worth dating...way too much drama as they learn to grow up Jul 10 19:36:05 lol Jul 10 19:36:06 very true Jul 10 19:36:07 i'm 20 :( Jul 10 19:36:14 I'm...old. Jul 10 19:36:20 lol Jul 10 19:37:05 Wolvenhaven the best part of 30+ is you can finally afford to do all the things you wanted to in your 20s Jul 10 19:37:09 i'm still in the "screw anything that's pretty and alive" phase Jul 10 19:37:18 sounds about right Jul 10 19:37:29 na, i can afford most of it now Jul 10 19:37:32 alive? don't cut out a market Jul 10 19:37:43 well, not right now, my stocks are in the dirt at the moment Jul 10 19:37:49 My 20s were spent working, non-stop, for little pay Jul 10 19:38:07 i made good money in my 20s and blew it Jul 10 19:38:10 i convinced my dad to give me $2k when i was 12 to put into stocks Jul 10 19:38:30 all my spending money more or less comes from that Jul 10 19:38:44 i invested $350 per week in the local bar Jul 10 19:38:48 lol Jul 10 19:38:56 i'm actually buying a homebrew beer kit this week Jul 10 19:39:02 cause i spend way too much on beer Jul 10 19:39:04 sweet Jul 10 19:39:15 i'll spend $70 every couple of weeks on beer Jul 10 19:39:15 they sell a lot of those around ehre Jul 10 19:39:17 here Jul 10 19:39:34 has anyone had success with the download service? specifically downloading an image? Jul 10 19:39:51 * haeffb tried that but I can't make beer as good as Boulevard, Sam Adams, Odell's, etc. Jul 10 19:40:00 JenP: I'm going to be playing around with that in a bit here Jul 10 19:40:22 awesome doc maybe we can collaborate Jul 10 19:40:29 i bet after a year or so of getting better at it, i could make some damn good beer Jul 10 19:40:30 What I want to know before I go head on into it is if you can cancel a download and not have the file deleted from the system Jul 10 19:40:38 and it's better than spending $2.50-4.00 a bottle Jul 10 19:40:55 If not, then I'm not even going to bother Jul 10 19:40:59 Wolvenhaven: true, but I can't go a year without good beer Jul 10 19:41:12 reality9110: will the file already exist on the users phone? Jul 10 19:41:36 reality9110: which US beach did u recommend...? Jul 10 19:42:02 i'll still buy beer Jul 10 19:42:06 but this is to reduce my costs Jul 10 19:42:25 also, because the total wine here has been out of my favorite beer for like 2 months Jul 10 19:44:02 JenP: No, it will be coming down. Jul 10 19:44:13 haeffb: I recommended Navarre. Jul 10 19:44:16 Not now though Jul 10 19:44:34 so you want to start downloading an image and before it's done downloading have it remain on the user's phone? Jul 10 19:44:47 Not an image, but yes Jul 10 19:45:16 idk wouldn Jul 10 19:45:30 There's a cancel function and there's a delete function. Jul 10 19:45:34 't it be corrupt and unusable if it wasn't finished downloading? Jul 10 19:45:37 I'm wondering if cancel also deletes Jul 10 19:45:48 It shouldn't for an audio file Jul 10 19:46:12 It should download incrementally Jul 10 19:46:24 hmm idk but interested Jul 10 19:46:45 Going to attempt to implement stream recording into RadioTime using that service. Jul 10 19:47:09 ahhh well i'd think you could...but don't really know Jul 10 19:47:47 Only one way to know. Jul 10 19:48:15 I'm going to be irritated if it doesn't work because it's a lot of effort. Jul 10 19:48:43 guess i'll try messing with phonegap Jul 10 19:49:54 though i'm interested in trying the PDK out Jul 10 19:50:14 It's not worth it for basic apps Jul 10 19:50:31 what, phonegap? Jul 10 19:50:35 PDK Jul 10 19:50:40 right Jul 10 19:50:55 i would be doing games with PDK Jul 10 19:51:14 That's about the only use I see for it right now Jul 10 19:51:20 i wrote a space invaders game that used ASCII text for the display once Jul 10 19:52:16 then i got fancy and upgraded it to EVGA Jul 10 19:58:13 do palm phones have a magnetometer? Jul 10 19:58:24 Don't think so Jul 10 20:09:53 Hey all Jul 10 20:10:39 hi kesne Jul 10 20:10:45 Whats up? Jul 10 20:11:11 just trying to push my app to the dashboard when the last card closes. Jul 10 20:11:45 gotta run errands. ttyl Jul 10 20:12:42 Oh noes Jul 10 20:12:47 Sounds difficult Jul 10 20:12:54 no kidding Jul 10 20:20:24 I've got my desktop version of KSO up and running Jul 10 20:20:36 KSO? Jul 10 20:20:44 Keen Studios Online Jul 10 20:22:19 I am hungry.. I think that I should go get breakfast Jul 10 20:22:36 DO IT! Jul 10 20:22:49 dkirker: from stage deactivate() ? Jul 10 20:23:52 haeffb: from wherever I can. Right now the code to launch the dashboard stage is in the last (dialpad) card's cleanup method. Jul 10 20:24:42 dang, app catalog reviews are still down Jul 10 20:31:37 omg, now I have the arrows where they need to be, but they stopped honoring x-mojo-fade Jul 10 20:32:35 gah, man this pdk beta is frustrating half of the pdk functions i try do nothing, half come back as undefined symbols Jul 10 20:38:33 * haeffb not going to be a prolific developer Jul 10 20:39:04 I've discovered that I like writing code for things that I don't know how to do...but once I know how to do it I lose interest. Jul 10 20:40:48 haeffb: I suffer from that, as well Jul 10 20:41:04 we should get jobs as webOS instructors :D Jul 10 20:41:40 * dkirker cries Jul 10 20:41:46 why won't this work?!?! Jul 10 20:42:01 okay, so the trick turns out to be putting the scroll fade divs inside the scroller wrap, not in the scroller's wrapper Jul 10 20:42:04 duh Jul 10 20:42:08 that's how the scenes do it Jul 10 20:42:43 dkirker: what's the problem? Jul 10 20:43:19 If I try to launch a dashboard as lighweight, I get this error: Jul 10 20:43:25 [20100710-12:59:37.878051] error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'Mojo' of null, /usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/mojo.js:175 Jul 10 20:43:58 paste the line causing the error Jul 10 20:44:12 heh, more like paste the files... Jul 10 20:44:14 not the mojo line. the line in your code Jul 10 20:44:21 are you launching from...the sceneAssistant? Jul 10 20:44:58 I am launching from a scene's assistant Jul 10 20:45:26 and trying to do the launchStageWithCallback from there? Jul 10 20:45:38 inability to access Mojo would be a cause of concern Jul 10 20:45:48 er..createStage... Jul 10 20:46:19 DialpadAssistant::cleanup calls AppAssitant::runHeadless class the createStageWithCallback Jul 10 20:46:33 *calls the Jul 10 20:46:44 the way I would go about it is to use a serviceRequest to launch the app from the sceneAssistant with a launchParam that will fire up the dashboard stage Jul 10 20:47:01 hmm, that isn't bad either Jul 10 20:47:23 rather than trying to call appAssistant functions from a scene Jul 10 20:48:20 This is really going to be a pain because there is a plugin that does the VoIP stuff. I guess that I can embed the plugin into the dashboard stage's html. Jul 10 20:48:39 I think that I need to draw this out... Jul 10 20:48:58 yeah, not sure about having continuity between stages Jul 10 20:49:02 anybody using Komodo Edit v6 beta with WebOS Add-on? With beta 1 everything was running fine, now with beta 2 error Could not find folder "src" containing "appinfo.json" in Project folder The file is there and the project was working fine with Beta 1. Any idea how to make the addon again working? Jul 10 20:49:12 I think that I need to clean my desk first.. Jul 10 20:49:38 but from your error, it sounds like the app is closing before the dashboard stage can launch & then "Mojo" disappears Jul 10 20:49:52 izidor: might be quicker to back up the project, make a new one, then re-copy the files Jul 10 20:50:04 haeffb: That is what I was thinking too Jul 10 20:50:34 and while I am thinking... I think that Palm needs to re-open their online store so that I can buy a "Two Fishes" Artist Series Pixi back. Jul 10 20:52:45 sugardave: the project is not the problem, problem is somewhere in the webos add-on in combination with this new beta of komodo edit Jul 10 20:53:26 izidor: okay, but you should still be able to make a new project and overwrite its src dir with yours Jul 10 20:53:31 and be done Jul 10 20:54:21 sugardave: unfortnatelly even the new project has the same issue with the addon. The only working solution would be to go back to beta 1 of Komodo Edit Jul 10 20:54:29 ah Jul 10 21:01:49 hi again Jul 10 21:01:55 sometimes I hate Titanium Jul 10 21:02:03 anyone knows where i could find a nice "app catalog" icon for my website ? Jul 10 21:03:21 Yessir Jul 10 21:04:05 http://developer.palm.com/webChannel/error.php?packageid=Keen%20Studios%20Rules Jul 10 21:08:14 I need beta testers Jul 10 21:08:44 with error Jul 10 21:09:46 What's a good editor on MAc? Jul 10 21:09:50 Free, preferabble? Jul 10 21:09:55 Er Jul 10 21:09:58 Preferably Jul 10 21:10:34 xcode Jul 10 21:10:39 no, just kidding Jul 10 21:11:42 I have xcode actually Jul 10 21:11:49 But really, for generic editing Jul 10 21:12:14 I use Coda at the moment Jul 10 21:12:20 but on trial Jul 10 21:12:24 And I have 10 days left Jul 10 21:12:37 And I'm not shoveling out $100 for an editor Jul 10 21:16:11 vim Jul 10 21:17:07 Gotta love the community Jul 10 21:18:25 kesne, just get komodo Jul 10 21:18:34 Komodo is goo? Jul 10 21:18:36 windows, mac, and linux ;D Jul 10 21:18:38 s/goo/good Jul 10 21:18:39 yeh Jul 10 21:18:48 I like lightweight Jul 10 21:19:06 with the webOS addon, komodo is stellar Jul 10 21:19:18 I'm not talking for webOS Jul 10 21:19:24 Komodo edit is the free one, no? Jul 10 21:19:27 yeh Jul 10 21:19:39 komodo IDE isnt free unless you use google Jul 10 21:19:42 :X Jul 10 21:20:04 ? Jul 10 21:21:15 1 user license is $295! Jul 10 21:21:19 why not eclipse? Jul 10 21:21:23 $0.00 Jul 10 21:21:34 Eclipse == garbage Jul 10 21:21:36 POS Jul 10 21:21:48 if you say so Jul 10 21:21:51 WFM Jul 10 21:22:11 but $300 ? Jul 10 21:24:23 It's called keygens Jul 10 21:24:24 :D Jul 10 21:25:28 i like eclipse Jul 10 21:25:43 i prefer netbeans, but eclipse is just fine Jul 10 21:27:40 Eclipse is garbage Jul 10 21:29:48 real men use console and gcc Jul 10 21:30:15 compiling, linking, and executing all by hand Jul 10 21:32:35 I use notepad Jul 10 21:33:50 finally found the elusive ipod integration kit for my car.. they discontinued it awhile back, but i finally tracked one down :D Jul 10 21:34:23 no more craptacular FM crap Jul 10 21:35:39 ive driven 1,027.96miles in the game Blur Jul 10 21:35:55 oooo! Jul 10 21:37:44 wow Jul 10 21:37:52 they store stats on each race.. interesting Jul 10 21:39:23 The combined mileage of all Blurgames played online so far is 17,318,621.08miles Jul 10 21:39:49 http://www.blurgame.com/stats/profile/xbox/36038151457745435 Jul 10 21:39:51 my stats ;p Jul 10 21:52:18 everyone going 2 sleep? Jul 10 21:52:33 nope Jul 10 21:52:54 hello Wolf Jul 10 21:54:18 is there a webos plugin for komodo? Jul 10 21:54:58 ye Jul 10 21:54:58 s Jul 10 21:55:07 http://webos.templarian.com/komodo/ Jul 10 21:55:09 hemna: there is one but have not used it Jul 10 21:57:41 * Templarian grins Jul 10 21:58:55 :) Jul 10 22:00:50 6 downloads a week, webOS has very few devs. :( Jul 10 22:08:57 Templarian: it will be alright soon Jul 10 22:14:00 temlarian: the plugin is not working fine with latest beta of komodo Jul 10 22:15:39 templarian: I have sent allready bugreport to komodo, as the plugin depends on variable ko.projects.manager._projects that is empty in latest komodo beta Jul 10 22:19:31 I have the komodo beta, but never tested. Jul 10 22:20:06 izidor: I'll tell him to fix it monday. Jul 10 22:20:25 Or I'll just rerelease and drop support when 6.0 comes out. Jul 10 22:21:12 Technically I used a lot of undocumented functions... notice that underscore. Jul 10 22:31:54 it would be great if you can ask for soon fix. the stable 5.2 is not able to run on my pc longer than some minutes, so I need to use 6.0 nightly to be able to work with it. Jul 10 22:37:05 trying it out Jul 10 22:39:42 not sure how to install the "beautifier" from http://webos.templarian.com/komodo Jul 10 22:41:49 what does komodo do? Jul 10 22:42:32 it's an IDE Jul 10 22:42:53 does it let you design widgets with a GUI? Jul 10 22:44:35 or runs pretty much like eclipse plugins? Jul 10 22:46:21 looks like it's a raw code editor like eclipse, just lighter weight Jul 10 22:46:27 the webos plugin seems to work Jul 10 22:47:01 cool cool Jul 10 22:47:17 i think i'm going to give phonegap a try, has some interesting db features Jul 10 22:47:57 hopefuly the db works on webos, would be a huge timesaver Jul 10 22:48:26 phonegap? Jul 10 22:48:30 I kinda dig komodo Jul 10 22:49:07 phonegap lets you write javascript apps that work on pretty much all smartphones Jul 10 22:49:31 haven't touched it other than downloading and watching a presentation but looks promising Jul 10 22:49:40 Yea, Komodo and the Addon were aimed to be GUI friendly for users. Jul 10 22:49:48 ah yah, I had heard of phonegap Jul 10 22:49:57 (Komodo 6.0 is getting some really nice improvements though) Jul 10 22:49:57 wasn't sure how it'd translate to native webos look/feel Jul 10 22:50:18 would be nice to write one app, then distribute to 100 million people Jul 10 22:50:23 would be cool to have my webos app run on iphone/android Jul 10 22:50:28 hemna: The beatifier thing is a toolbox macro. Jul 10 22:50:37 Templarian, how do you install it? Jul 10 22:50:38 hemna definately Jul 10 22:50:48 You go to Toolbox -> Import Jul 10 22:51:02 Or drag and drop it I think works also. Jul 10 22:51:25 ok I see a Toolbox -> Beautifier menu Jul 10 22:51:33 I might have dragged it into komodo already Jul 10 22:51:36 Oh if you ahve the IDE it has it built in. Jul 10 22:51:42 have& Jul 10 22:51:43 * Jul 10 22:51:47 ** Jul 10 22:52:10 Komodo Edit lacks it so I built it for users into a macro. Jul 10 22:52:16 So... noWindow: true requires you to create the stage yourself... If noWindow: false is set, the system creates the stage, you can then push a scene. If the system creates the stage, it uses the index.html file, and then when you push a scene, your *-scene.html file appears to be applied to the index.html file. How can I create a stage (when noWindow: true is set) and use the index.html file like the system does it? Jul 10 22:52:29 Or am I missing something basic? Jul 10 22:53:14 hemna: Komodo beta is the IDE (paid), while I aimed the Addon at Komodo Edit (free, open source). Jul 10 22:54:14 As you probably guessed the IDE is just Edit + Features. Jul 10 22:54:26 yah I think I have the IDE Jul 10 22:55:17 You do. :) Jul 10 22:55:26 it seems to understand js much better than eclipse Jul 10 22:56:18 That's because it does. In Beta 2 it adds all the prefixes for CSS also. So -webkit, -o, -moz, etc... autocomplete. Jul 10 22:56:33 awesome Jul 10 22:56:51 I'm still trying to figure out how to do dashboard and banners correctly Jul 10 22:56:59 so I can do a background update of my apps data Jul 10 22:57:04 pita Jul 10 22:57:15 * Templarian doesn't do webOS anymore so meh. Jul 10 22:57:33 no? Jul 10 22:57:45 Hey Jul 10 22:57:54 Anybody want to make me icons? Jul 10 22:58:01 * Templarian hides. Jul 10 22:58:51 Oh come on] Jul 10 22:58:54 I know you do Jul 10 22:58:57 what kind of icons? Jul 10 22:59:08 and how many? Jul 10 22:59:13 Just little ones for this desktop program Jul 10 22:59:40 kesne: time to go 2 sleep Jul 10 22:59:53 LoneStar99: What? Jul 10 22:59:57 lol Jul 10 23:00:22 jk Jul 10 23:07:23 excited to make it all brilliant Jul 10 23:07:36 What? Jul 10 23:10:15 not sure how to make things better. Jul 10 23:12:16 but built an IM. so will use that as a basis Jul 10 23:26:02 Ah ha!! Jul 10 23:26:16 woo Jul 10 23:26:36 hrm Jul 10 23:26:46 zoink Jul 10 23:26:55 blarz! Jul 10 23:27:09 tick Jul 10 23:27:15 tock Jul 10 23:27:19 zig Jul 10 23:27:42 zag Jul 10 23:27:44 Move zig move zig move zig move zig you know what you doing take off every zig Jul 10 23:28:13 errands are interrupting my coding :( Jul 10 23:28:56 i say the bourne idenity that rocks Jul 10 23:32:01 I still can't get this darn thing to stop popping open the browser Jul 10 23:32:13 It's like it's hardwired Jul 10 23:33:34 It's event.stopPropagation() correct? Jul 10 23:35:14 reality9110: why do you want so much money? Jul 10 23:35:42 What? Jul 10 23:36:34 yeah, you can make $1000 a day, what you saving it for? Jul 10 23:36:52 Retirement Jul 10 23:37:15 reality9110: Ever heard of dave ramsey Jul 10 23:37:33 Yes, talk show host. Christian conservative. Jul 10 23:37:51 Also very smart with money Jul 10 23:38:01 You should check him out. Jul 10 23:38:07 Why? Jul 10 23:38:57 Cause he's got some good things to say about what ppl should do with their money...... Jul 10 23:39:22 Ummm...I didn't say I needed financial advice. Jul 10 23:39:40 Lonestar just asked what do I want so much money Jul 10 23:39:49 It's for retirement supplement. Jul 10 23:40:12 chrisian folks trying to save the world, will only save themselves in life Jul 10 23:40:14 I know you didn't, relax. Jul 10 23:40:35 I've already got plenty for retirement. Now, with the app making a ton of money a day, well, that's just icing on the cake Jul 10 23:40:55 Not saying you need financial advice, but you can always learn a thing or two from smart ppl in every area of life. Jul 10 23:41:30 lol, sounds like I hit a soft spot. You got pretty offended. Jul 10 23:41:32 I've been a worshipper of Buffett since the 1970s. Jul 10 23:41:41 just saying to much makes people blind Jul 10 23:41:55 It's just that I think Ramsey is a hack Jul 10 23:42:00 Negative. Jul 10 23:42:13 Absolutely Jul 10 23:42:16 He's makes more sense than most of these goobs out there. Jul 10 23:42:33 float! Jul 10 23:42:34 FLOAT! Jul 10 23:42:37 If he didn't sit there and push his seminars so much... Jul 10 23:43:19 He doesn't "push" his seminars. He hosts them and ppl show up.. by the thousands. And thousands are straitening their financial life out every day because of him. Jul 10 23:43:34 Anyhow I do not wish to debate about financial advisors. Jul 10 23:44:05 if you all believe in that believe that ORU never toke 1 billion form believers Jul 10 23:45:55 * rwhitby gets out the popcorn and waits for godwin Jul 10 23:46:07 rwhitby: It would be too easy Jul 10 23:46:10 Oral Roberts and party took billions of dollars to make the christian life pure Jul 10 23:46:11 Anyway, back to programming Jul 10 23:46:28 reality9110: agreed. Jul 10 23:46:36 same here Jul 10 23:46:38 I have a div with an a href in it. Whenever that div is clicked, it opens the browser. Jul 10 23:46:47 reality9110: did you check into the capture vs. bubble phase? Jul 10 23:46:57 I have an event listener on it with an event.stopPropagation in it Jul 10 23:47:06 Yes, I've tried true on the capture Jul 10 23:47:11 and I think there are two methods to call to really stop something Jul 10 23:47:28 I can't seem to find it in the docs Jul 10 23:47:54 I think it's in the handleCommand stuff...let me see if I can find it Jul 10 23:48:59 The docs are in such shambles and the search is so pointless Jul 10 23:50:40 event.preventDefault() Jul 10 23:50:50 Yeah, just saw that...trying it now Jul 10 23:51:32 Negative Jul 10 23:51:36 blah Jul 10 23:51:56 are you doing it in the capture phase now or bubble? Jul 10 23:52:11 capture Jul 10 23:52:30 you can turn event sniffing on and see if there's something nifty happening when you tap the div Jul 10 23:53:00 Is there a way to listen to what's inside of the div? Jul 10 23:53:08 i.e. innerHTML? Jul 10 23:53:24 if you can get at the element/id you can put a listener on it Jul 10 23:53:43 so innerHTML would need to be an element Jul 10 23:54:30 oooo Jul 10 23:54:42 you might be able to css it out of usefulness Jul 10 23:55:06 a {-webkit-palm-mouse-target: ignore;} Jul 10 23:55:26 I'll give that a try Jul 10 23:56:40 grrrrr Jul 10 23:56:57 that must mean it didn't work Jul 10 23:57:07 does it have an id or name? Jul 10 23:57:18 No ID Jul 10 23:57:25 just an tag Jul 10 23:58:04 Wait...might have gotten it Jul 10 23:59:51 Negative Jul 11 00:00:01 bummer Jul 11 00:00:04 he is married to the king Jul 11 00:02:12 reality9110: you MIGHT be able to put that -webkit mouse thing in the CSS for your containing div, but have another div under it that you're listening for a tap on Jul 11 00:02:43 If it didn't work on #div a {} it's not going to work... Jul 11 00:02:59 well, not sure if it's for any element...I know it works for divs Jul 11 00:03:56 show us brothers Jul 11 00:08:15 reality9110: what event are you listening for on the parent div? Jul 11 00:08:54 tap Jul 11 00:09:05 Any reason why this code isnt firing my function? :/ this.controller.listen(this.controller.stageController.document, Mojo.Event.stageDeactivate, game.stageDeactivate.bind(this), true); Jul 11 00:10:02 reality9110: http://webos.pastebin.com/Sz8R41hW from a "pseudo-code" post on the forum, but looks full enough Jul 11 00:10:43 http://webos.pastebin.com/qd7xP7g3 Jul 11 00:10:50 That's my code Jul 11 00:10:55 they use click, but that seems undefined? or maybe a hardcode I don't know about Jul 11 00:11:35 It might work Jul 11 00:11:40 Let me give it a try Jul 11 00:11:46 if not, try it as a string Jul 11 00:11:59 next thing to do is turn event sniffing on and see what other events are firing Jul 11 00:12:33 Yeah, click doesn't work...breaks Jul 11 00:15:20 ready to make it brilliant Jul 11 00:16:07 not sure how to make it better Jul 11 00:16:57 time to be a soldier Jul 11 00:51:25 Hey all Jul 11 00:51:37 Is Anivrom or any of my other beta testers in here? Jul 11 00:51:42 rgr Jul 11 00:51:57 Hey there Jul 11 00:52:01 Wanna beta test? Jul 11 00:52:06 same game? Jul 11 00:52:11 No sir Jul 11 00:52:44 sure, send me the ipk Jul 11 00:52:52 Well, it isn't an IPK Jul 11 00:52:58 can't test desktop atm Jul 11 00:53:01 It's the UI for a desktop application Jul 11 00:53:01 Programming Jul 11 00:53:03 Ah man Jul 11 00:53:05 Fineee Jul 11 00:53:18 What about halfhalo? He seems like a nice guy Jul 11 00:57:30 Who is in here? Jul 11 00:57:44 ChanServ! What about you!? Jul 11 00:57:51 CTLAdvance Jul 11 00:57:52 DAWM! Jul 11 00:58:03 Heck, even dkirker Jul 11 00:58:10 Or Mr. Lollis Jul 11 00:58:25 Everyone is hard at work making the next best app :) Jul 11 00:58:29 Or kesne! Jul 11 00:58:49 Anivrom: hah, good joke, I know that you can't program worth a damn. Nice try though! Jul 11 00:59:38 Oh right cause it's so hard to make a ball move with accelerometer values? :P Jul 11 01:00:16 And detect several collisions Jul 11 01:00:21 And be able to make it not lag Jul 11 01:00:25 again not that hard with a little math. Jul 11 01:00:32 And also write an AI Jul 11 01:00:34 :O Jul 11 01:00:41 Anivrom: I'd like to see you do it :P Jul 11 01:00:44 a series of if statements lol Jul 11 01:00:55 The best you've ever to produce is still BHL level Jul 11 01:01:09 Well time will tell won't it Jul 11 01:01:57 sup guys Jul 11 01:01:59 I really don't understand why you have taken to randomly bashing my supposed programming skills but that's ok. I got tough skin. Jul 11 01:03:24 torchie! Jul 11 01:03:36 Anivrom: You know I'm kidding you Jul 11 01:03:40 We're best friends! Jul 11 01:03:41 :D Jul 11 01:03:58 webos-info: kesne Jul 11 01:04:12 There is no webos-info Jul 11 01:04:23 Was worth a shot Jul 11 01:04:48 torchie: want to beta test something Jul 11 01:05:02 what is it Jul 11 01:05:31 * Amaranth randomly pokes his drawing code Jul 11 01:06:22 Amaranth: I almost thought you were Anivrom for a second Jul 11 01:06:34 so did I. was wondering how I typed that Jul 11 01:06:41 Hehe Jul 11 01:06:44 Haha Jul 11 01:08:05 I think I've left the atmosphere Jul 11 01:08:35 Lay of the drugs man Jul 11 01:08:55 no no, http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html Jul 11 01:09:43 That page made me realize how much I really hate reading Jul 11 01:09:55 Reading makes you smarter. Jul 11 01:10:10 So does Marijuana Jul 11 01:12:36 I started with pure procedural code that rendered a single level and now I have a diagram for a 2D engine with pluggable backends, etc Jul 11 01:13:14 sprite engine? Jul 11 01:13:49 what about me? Jul 11 01:14:02 Well, it can load sprites from an image per sprite and a texture atlas Jul 11 01:14:10 or at least the API diagram says it can Jul 11 01:14:15 :P Jul 11 01:14:43 I have it loading sprites from single files using SOIL and drawing outlined rectangles so far :P Jul 11 01:18:01 Found a way to do it Jul 11 01:18:09 Disable all links Jul 11 01:18:53 In index.html set Jul 11 01:19:24 Good to know. Jul 11 01:19:45 What an absolute pain Jul 11 01:20:06 took you over 2 hours to fix that one I believe Jul 11 01:20:19 2 days Jul 11 01:20:22 lol wow Jul 11 01:20:45 Apparently WebOS has it hardcoded in there to open up those darn links in the browser Jul 11 01:20:59 So, you have to go right into the tag to get it accomplished Jul 11 01:57:41 sure takes a lot of work to get a phonegap project setup, i think the PDK was simpler Jul 11 02:00:29 are you porting? Jul 11 02:00:51 lets call it researching the idea of porting Jul 11 02:00:57 ahh Jul 11 02:01:03 not sure its worth the trouble of rebuilding an existing app Jul 11 02:01:23 but may be beneficial to create new stuff cross-platform Jul 11 02:01:34 going to another platform or from one? Jul 11 02:01:58 well, at this point the only mobile platform i have experience with is webos Jul 11 02:02:13 ic Jul 11 02:02:26 would be nice to create an app, then put it in play on the 3 majors to see what wins Jul 11 02:02:42 sure Jul 11 02:03:00 so phone gap is complex? Jul 11 02:03:17 i had to monkey with it a little Jul 11 02:03:28 but looks like the code is very nice once it gets going Jul 11 02:03:39 hmm Jul 11 02:03:39 they have excellent db routines Jul 11 02:04:09 auto-keys, simple commands Jul 11 02:04:16 its called lawnchair Jul 11 02:04:30 interesting Jul 11 02:05:10 its like this.. Jul 11 02:05:25 var me = {name:'bob'}; Jul 11 02:05:32 people.save(me) Jul 11 02:05:49 ridiculous. Jul 11 02:06:04 lot better than INSERT blah into table_something where blah=blah Jul 11 02:06:18 * BigBiff is checking out the wiki Jul 11 02:06:46 I didn't realize it was for all platforms Jul 11 02:06:51 yep Jul 11 02:07:07 I wouldn't be able to bear the thought of having to rewrite the already 1500+ lines Jul 11 02:07:19 same her Anivrom Jul 11 02:07:19 of my app* and I just started.. Jul 11 02:07:21 here Jul 11 02:07:33 I don't know anyone with symbian even though it's number one Jul 11 02:07:51 i'm interested to see how well the UI elements look on various platforms Jul 11 02:07:57 seems like thats the tricky thing Jul 11 02:08:02 all my friends have android Jul 11 02:08:08 same here Jul 11 02:08:33 like 2/3rds android 1/3rd iphone and a handful of pre's Jul 11 02:08:45 though i know the market is opposite Jul 11 02:08:46 Yay Jul 11 02:08:47 ya recreating the styling would be a pain in the ass Jul 11 02:09:40 heres the lawnchair stuff.. http://brianleroux.github.com/lawnchair/ Jul 11 02:09:50 I would imagine that symbian customers aren't the 'app crazy' type Jul 11 02:10:36 it's a funny game Jul 11 02:10:36 i had to install JavaSDK, apache ant, Git for windows, android sdks... lots of prep work Jul 11 02:11:16 the setup walkthrough was pretty good... only hit one thing that wasn't covered... i had to add that other sdks bin folder to my path Jul 11 02:11:26 android / iphone owners get all hyped sbout lots of apps and don't download any Jul 11 02:13:09 ooh, iss flys over my house in 10 minutes Jul 11 02:13:15 sweet Jul 11 02:13:18 where's your house? Jul 11 02:13:23 tn Jul 11 02:13:35 come on over Jul 11 02:13:36 whats the site you found it on? Jul 11 02:13:49 yeah i'm on my way... let me fire up the transporter Jul 11 02:14:16 http://www.spaceweather.com/flybys/flybys.php?zip=37664 Jul 11 02:14:36 of course they have an app for android/iphone Jul 11 02:15:10 looks like its at 10:56 here Jul 11 02:15:17 nasa's sites are better but don't work on the pre Jul 11 02:15:18 yeah, like everything else Jul 11 02:15:49 funny how people don't pay attention to the fact that webos is the best platform Jul 11 02:15:51 I wish I had the skills to write a sat tracker app Jul 11 02:16:12 all the necessary data is available Jul 11 02:16:24 oh really? Jul 11 02:16:34 do they have any docs? Jul 11 02:16:43 ya, for thousands of objects Jul 11 02:16:58 where? that could be a cool app to work on Jul 11 02:17:06 * Anivrom starts thinking about how to create this app :P Jul 11 02:17:06 you just have to figure the trig Jul 11 02:17:18 I've tried Jul 11 02:17:29 that doesn't sound like fun Jul 11 02:17:35 keplers equations is where you start Jul 11 02:17:43 not fun without copy/paste Jul 11 02:17:45 clearly it's not the best platform if it doesn't have the most apps Jul 11 02:17:52 needs more APPS omg omg Jul 11 02:17:55 lol Jul 11 02:17:59 hehe, of course Jul 11 02:18:05 more crappy useless apps now! Jul 11 02:18:21 it frickin prints money, i dont care Jul 11 02:18:21 more fart buttons! Jul 11 02:18:28 because when a platform has a lot of applications, it clearly means the core functionality is the main attraction right? Jul 11 02:18:47 it has an app that builds an island and then transforms into a jet and flies you there... i dont care Jul 11 02:18:50 lmfao fav line Jul 11 02:19:08 hah Jul 11 02:19:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg Jul 11 02:19:24 lol Jul 11 02:19:26 my new favourite video Jul 11 02:19:50 for real, I'd love a sat tracker app Jul 11 02:20:11 I'd help someone do it Jul 11 02:20:14 is the existing one open source? Jul 11 02:20:28 no Jul 11 02:20:43 lmao at the video Jul 11 02:20:49 I've found no source for any aspect Jul 11 02:21:34 my 8yr old nieces shitty boost mobile phone has apps on it... lmao Jul 11 02:22:15 best video ever! Jul 11 02:22:18 heh Jul 11 02:23:04 dang yo Jul 11 02:23:09 what boost mobile phone is that? Jul 11 02:23:12 just in case I need to get one Jul 11 02:23:15 yea really Jul 11 02:24:44 BigBiff... where do they have docs on the tracking stuff? Jul 11 02:27:54 lemme look, it's called like 2 line data or something Jul 11 02:28:04 cool Jul 11 02:28:09 iss is beright tonight Jul 11 02:28:16 awesome Jul 11 02:28:23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uNVPrpmnNQ Jul 11 02:28:32 new webos game apparently Jul 11 02:28:39 x37 is cool too, but scary Jul 11 02:29:18 whats the x37 Jul 11 02:32:10 holy crap... that game rocks Jul 11 02:33:01 i had no clue that a 3d game would run that smooth Jul 11 02:33:27 http://www.portents.com/marek/satellite/ Jul 11 02:33:30 i think i'll write one like that... give me about 2 days Jul 11 02:33:34 has some info Jul 11 02:34:14 heres where I started: Jul 11 02:34:17 http://www.hobbyspace.com/SatWatching/ Jul 11 02:34:50 sweet.. bookmarked Jul 11 02:34:58 but you gotta dig deep into keplers equations of orbital motion Jul 11 02:35:06 eeek Jul 11 02:35:08 that's where I failed Jul 11 02:35:23 it might be easier to hack the stuff thats out there lol Jul 11 02:35:32 maybe make an android emulator Jul 11 02:35:33 ya Jul 11 02:35:41 * Anivrom calls up stephen hawking on speed dial to process the math in 1.46 seconds Jul 11 02:35:51 heh Jul 11 02:36:06 i wonder which smartphone he has Jul 11 02:36:19 but the iphone/droid apps only track a few Jul 11 02:36:46 you could track all 10000 or whatever visible objects Jul 11 02:36:54 hell yeah Jul 11 02:37:33 the palmos had a little sat app too, but they changed platform as well Jul 11 02:37:55 http://www.projectpluto.com/source.htm Jul 11 02:38:00 source code Jul 11 02:38:15 :D Jul 11 02:38:26 there you go Jul 11 02:38:37 adding to bookmarks Jul 11 02:38:41 c might as well be japanese to me Jul 11 02:39:18 I say don't wait for a magnetometer to write these apps Jul 11 02:39:37 might be a long wait if i do Jul 11 02:39:49 heh, yup Jul 11 02:39:51 has there been any word at all on new palm phones? Jul 11 02:40:01 how about that 1.4.5.1 sprint :( Jul 11 02:40:02 there's a C++ port of planetfinder for symbian Jul 11 02:40:12 it's supposed to do stars, etc. Jul 11 02:40:29 http://www.newlc.com/article.php3?id_article=799 Jul 11 02:40:33 about halfway down Jul 11 02:40:43 ya Jul 11 02:41:00 BigBiff: grab the PDK and seize the day! Jul 11 02:41:03 see, if androids starmap had sat tracking.... Jul 11 02:41:06 er night Jul 11 02:41:10 i could package a home made magnetometer with my app Jul 11 02:41:13 heh Jul 11 02:41:40 * BigBiff is going on week 3 with no computer Jul 11 02:41:45 ack Jul 11 02:41:58 * BigBiff needs hp to hurry Jul 11 02:41:58 what you computin on dawg Jul 11 02:42:02 pre Jul 11 02:42:06 I'm not Jul 11 02:42:10 30 day challenge? Jul 11 02:42:36 it's not as bad as quitting smoking Jul 11 02:42:40 i went without a computer for about a year once Jul 11 02:42:47 ouch Jul 11 02:43:07 roomates killed my HD with all my life long source code Jul 11 02:43:16 no backup Jul 11 02:43:18 doing my bills on a school laptop Jul 11 02:43:31 6 year old dell Jul 11 02:43:41 honestly if I could get inkscape, skype, a text editor with word wrap, and some sort of remote compile method Jul 11 02:43:44 they had computers 6 years ago? Jul 11 02:43:47 I would need no dang computer Jul 11 02:43:57 heh Jul 11 02:44:28 I have to 'repair' wifi every 3 minutes Jul 11 02:44:33 no admin access Jul 11 02:44:41 it rules Jul 11 02:44:59 BigBiff slummin' Jul 11 02:45:05 ya Jul 11 02:45:35 I need to get a SATA enclosure to back up my wife's HDD before taking her crap to get the fan fixed Jul 11 02:45:40 * sugardave doesn't work on laptops. Jul 11 02:45:41 EmmettLollis: gonna miss the flyover Jul 11 02:45:58 is it eastern time? Jul 11 02:46:16 * BigBiff had to make comp room into baby bedroom Jul 11 02:46:34 I dunno if it's local or all est Jul 11 02:46:54 says 10:56 on mine.. it's 946 here Jul 11 02:46:57 must be eastern Jul 11 02:47:10 dont think it would take an hour for it to go from TN to OK Jul 11 02:47:24 it was going east Jul 11 02:47:29 :o Jul 11 02:47:50 already happened there? Jul 11 02:47:54 ya Jul 11 02:48:13 hmm Jul 11 02:48:20 doesn't make much sense Jul 11 02:48:29 it's fast :) Jul 11 02:48:42 circling back for ur house Jul 11 02:48:52 heh Jul 11 02:49:02 maybe its showing me in local time then Jul 11 02:49:07 idk, it doesn't specify Jul 11 02:49:10 probably Jul 11 02:49:25 i'm far to ADD to remember an hour from now Jul 11 02:49:34 hehe Jul 11 02:50:03 the x37 was weird... military space plane Jul 11 02:50:17 oh yeah i remember that Jul 11 02:50:23 they snagged a photo of it Jul 11 02:50:27 has solar panels Jul 11 02:50:39 ya, I saw it the other night Jul 11 02:50:51 it's tracked on that sitw Jul 11 02:50:55 site Jul 11 02:51:05 my friend that used to be in the military was suprised that i knew of it Jul 11 02:51:21 crazy stuff Jul 11 02:52:32 brb Jul 11 02:57:50 saw a shooting star Jul 11 02:59:22 heh Jul 11 02:59:46 probably local time then **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 11 02:59:57 2010