**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 02:59:57 2010 Jul 25 03:00:50 if I declare a variable above all my assistant code will it be global throughout all my scenes? Jul 25 03:40:26 well, that wasn't as hard is it sounded Jul 25 03:40:40 Anivrom: yes. Jul 25 03:40:54 after that assistant is loaded Jul 25 03:40:55 haeffb: thanks :P Jul 25 03:41:39 I usually use a MyAPP = {}; structure in my AppAssistant to store global vars. Jul 25 03:41:47 Hmm Jul 25 03:41:51 fthtgki Jul 25 03:42:05 MyAPP.prefs = {"pref1": true, "pref2": false}; Jul 25 03:42:29 halfhalo speaking hawaiian now? Jul 25 03:42:43 :P Jul 25 03:43:26 fffffffffffffffffffffff Jul 25 03:44:53 yes Jul 25 03:44:57 it's really pricy here Jul 25 03:46:03 my friend is in the navy stationed at pearl harbour Jul 25 03:46:12 has some funny stories about hawaii Jul 25 03:46:20 whatever you do don't j-walk Jul 25 03:46:21 lol Jul 25 03:49:56 Anivrom: Depot is no more difficult than cupcakes. Jul 25 03:50:15 To me it is, I'm kinda nubby in some areas of js Jul 25 04:21:52 there is a sprint webos doctor on palm website Jul 25 04:22:52 Yea you might need to use it to get the new update. I had to doctor my phone to see the update :P but of course I'm not endorsing you to doctor your phone. Jul 25 04:23:23 no big deal to me Jul 25 04:23:31 and it prolly wont work Jul 25 04:23:34 did you see the pdk stuff in the catalog Jul 25 04:23:39 no.. Jul 25 04:23:58 you doctored to 1.4.5? Jul 25 04:24:31 well the update initially showed up and I cancelled twice cause I wasn't ready, then it disappeared. Bell canada tech support told me to doctor, I did and it showed up again Jul 25 04:24:37 So I guess initially it showed up. Jul 25 04:25:02 i was talking abt sprint Jul 25 04:38:59 Hey amaranth Jul 25 04:39:05 how goes the battle? Jul 25 04:40:09 too drunk to care :P Jul 25 04:40:16 lol Jul 25 04:42:00 Amaranth: cheers! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 05:13:48 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 05:16:14 2010 Jul 25 06:21:51 does pre play .mov? Jul 25 06:47:44 night all Jul 25 06:54:27 Anyone still up? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 10:36:14 2010 Jul 25 11:27:18 where is wirc pdk Jul 25 11:45:40 renegaid: do you have preware? Jul 25 11:45:57 and you you have webos 1.4.5? Jul 25 11:52:47 yes and 1.4.5. all it has is the old version Jul 25 11:55:16 let me check Jul 25 11:59:54 current version is 0.2.99.3 Jul 25 12:00:24 which one do you have? Jul 25 12:11:15 morning folks Jul 25 12:11:36 version 0.2.4 Jul 25 12:13:26 morning Jul 25 12:16:30 morning haeffb,hotdp Jul 25 12:17:40 do someone know if there is a shortcut for SMS? if a number is selected and you pre enter you make a call. Jul 25 12:17:59 pres* Jul 25 12:19:22 try option enter? Jul 25 12:19:46 swisstomcat: have time for some quick translating? Jul 25 12:19:49 the red button? Jul 25 12:19:55 haeffb: sure Jul 25 12:21:18 http://webos.pastebin.com/ELXprZ5R Jul 25 12:22:02 I have 16 color options - should they all be translated? Jul 25 12:22:09 like Honeydew, Wheat, .... Jul 25 12:22:25 probably Jul 25 12:25:49 http://webos.pastebin.com/q6nPJKva Jul 25 12:25:59 some might be too long, let me know Jul 25 12:26:47 5 von 7 ? Jul 25 12:26:53 yeah Jul 25 12:26:59 maybe aus Jul 25 12:27:01 sweet. colors coming... Jul 25 12:27:02 depends Jul 25 12:27:11 5 of 7 what? Jul 25 12:27:12 I've selected 5 aus 7 folders Jul 25 12:27:21 contexts, goals, statuses, etc. Jul 25 12:27:28 von should be fine Jul 25 12:30:54 colors: http://webos.pastebin.com/vDcq6vV5 Jul 25 12:32:43 alice blue? Jul 25 12:33:30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors Jul 25 12:34:16 there is no de version... :) Jul 25 12:34:49 there will be a little square color sample next to the name in the listSelector, so translating is probably not critical Jul 25 12:35:13 heh Jul 25 12:35:49 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_blue Jul 25 12:38:35 difference between light blue and alice blue? Jul 25 12:39:26 label: $L("Light Blue"), color: "#ADD8E6", Jul 25 12:39:39 $L("Alice Blue"), color: "#F0F8FF", Jul 25 12:39:47 alice is much more pale Jul 25 12:40:29 http://webos.pastebin.com/J3PBk6SS Jul 25 12:40:33 the colors are all shown on that wikipedia page Jul 25 12:41:23 maybe "Alice blau" ? Jul 25 12:41:29 himmelblau Jul 25 12:41:37 hokay Jul 25 12:41:42 skyblue Jul 25 12:41:52 http://webos.pastebin.com/sX0MvKcn Jul 25 12:41:56 corrected Jul 25 12:42:13 SkyBlue 87 CE EB Jul 25 12:42:17 is a different color Jul 25 12:42:28 bah Jul 25 12:47:24 "Not Starred" Jul 25 13:08:31 how can we trigger the buzzing of the phone ? Jul 25 13:09:42 try Mojo.Controller.getAppController().playSoundNotification("alerts", ""); but with something other than alerts... ? Jul 25 13:10:37 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1873&Itemid=244#.playSoundNotification Jul 25 13:14:35 I mean to make the phone vibrate Jul 25 13:15:03 yes, use playSoundNotification("vibrate", ""); Jul 25 13:15:14 ty Jul 25 14:49:16 Anyone here using WebOS with Exchange, on 2010 OWA Servers, but the account itself it still on 2007 servers? Jul 25 14:59:45 test Jul 25 15:02:17 your sound card works perfectly Jul 25 15:02:50 your sound card works perfectly Jul 25 15:03:10 this room is so quiet you can literally hear echoes Jul 25 15:03:14 haha Jul 25 15:03:29 its kinda early in the morning Jul 25 15:12:08 heh Jul 25 15:12:33 morning? it's 5:12pm Jul 25 15:14:33 where ? :p Jul 25 15:14:39 europe Jul 25 15:15:02 that was a rethorical question Jul 25 15:15:07 heh Jul 25 15:19:58 it's 11am here Jul 25 15:45:24 i dont believe in europe Jul 25 15:47:32 I don't believe in morning Jul 25 16:19:50 morning - afternoon - everyone Jul 25 18:40:55 I didn't think emulators were legal but there a bunch of them on android market Jul 25 18:41:04 yeah it's awesome Jul 25 18:41:05 nesem. Jul 25 18:41:11 nes emu for palm Jul 25 18:41:17 10 bucks Jul 25 18:41:20 pre's got nesem and visualboycolor Jul 25 18:41:31 I wouldn't be surprised if sony and nintendo sue google at one point Jul 25 18:41:32 virtualboy is so laggy though Jul 25 18:41:34 man I should have bought nesem with my second card Jul 25 18:41:48 it's laggy on GBA even if you OC to 800mhz Jul 25 18:41:49 never heard of those and would never pay for Jul 25 18:41:53 but it's buttery smooth for GBC Jul 25 18:41:56 torchie, I have over 3500 nes games on my pre :P Jul 25 18:42:01 hello all Jul 25 18:42:04 heh Jul 25 18:42:08 you know I have an NES folder on the pre Jul 25 18:42:11 nothing to play it with Jul 25 18:42:22 there is a homebrew emulator you know Jul 25 18:42:24 I'm like on the pounce with folders for erry old system Jul 25 18:42:28 no sound though Jul 25 18:42:33 no sound no sale Jul 25 18:42:43 is nesem 100%? Jul 25 18:42:44 yea nothing beats 8bit Jul 25 18:42:54 Sound wise yes. Jul 25 18:43:00 graphics work? Jul 25 18:43:05 I ain't payin 10bux for wonk Jul 25 18:43:11 It runs about 80-90% of games Jul 25 18:43:16 kirby? Jul 25 18:43:27 But you have to repair them with a included repair batch Jul 25 18:43:44 You just run it in the roms folder and it will go through all the roms and repair automatically Jul 25 18:43:51 Prolly kirby Jul 25 18:43:54 havent tried Jul 25 18:44:35 megaman works and all the other classics. Jul 25 18:44:39 even battletoads! Jul 25 18:46:04 can you play with keyboard Jul 25 18:46:19 yea Jul 25 18:46:22 and touchscreen Jul 25 18:46:31 Both take a bit of getitng used to though Jul 25 18:47:34 well I do gbc with the keyboard so no problemo Jul 25 18:47:52 the diagonals are the difficult part Jul 25 18:48:04 play street fighter less Jul 25 18:48:43 anyone know how to change the title of app-menu dynamically Jul 25 18:49:04 LoneStar99: don't think it is possible Jul 25 18:49:15 unless you can change your app name Jul 25 18:49:36 Tibfib: mmmm.... Jul 25 18:49:46 There's a way Jul 25 18:49:55 i think rwhitby had done it Jul 25 18:50:02 rwhitby: you around? Jul 25 18:50:06 maybe with a hybrid app you could use the pdk to change the appinfo.json Jul 25 18:50:10 Good morning you magnificent coders! Jul 25 18:50:17 * dohtem does a dance Jul 25 18:50:18 I'm curious how/if he got it to work Jul 25 18:50:21 morning dohtem Jul 25 18:50:25 dohtem: howdy Jul 25 18:50:33 Have a serverside script that dynamically submits your app to palm everytime the title changes, wait a week adn voila, dynamic title changing Jul 25 18:50:49 Tibfib: not sure, but i think he mentioned something similar some time ago Jul 25 18:50:55 hah. Weekly != dynamic Jul 25 18:51:06 its dynamic Jul 25 18:51:09 just a slooowww dynamic Jul 25 18:51:25 I'm having trouble with my viewMenu. Only labels are visible. I can't get this example to work - http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1683 Jul 25 18:51:38 i meant the title "tap" of app menu... Jul 25 18:51:47 dohtem: I see your problem already Jul 25 18:51:54 ? Jul 25 18:51:58 You're using palm example code Jul 25 18:52:01 LOL Jul 25 18:52:02 lmao Jul 25 18:52:30 dohtem: don't use palm example code from dev portal Jul 25 18:52:37 use the samples in the sdk or webos101 Jul 25 18:52:38 lol Jul 25 18:53:02 webos101 Jul 25 18:53:10 sigh... they should wiki their dev portal Jul 25 18:53:11 ooooooooh dekan Jul 25 18:53:16 dekan: webos101 Jul 25 18:53:16 Error at 0x08: Reference not found Jul 25 18:53:19 whatt. Jul 25 18:53:35 dekan: webos101 is http://webos101.com Jul 25 18:53:35 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 25 18:53:52 scoobysnack Jul 25 18:53:52 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 25 18:54:22 dekan: webos101 Jul 25 18:54:22 webos101 is http://webos101.com Jul 25 19:10:09 dekan 101 Jul 25 19:10:27 dekan: 101 Jul 25 19:10:28 101 is http://www.webos101.com Jul 25 19:10:58 dekan: are you a bot? Jul 25 19:10:58 i'm not a bot! kesne is a bot! Jul 25 19:18:37 say again Jul 25 19:18:37 Again! Jul 25 19:19:16 ty Jul 25 19:20:22 say dog Jul 25 19:20:22 Dog! Jul 25 19:20:27 interesting Jul 25 19:21:03 botsnack Jul 25 19:21:03 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 25 19:41:21 good evening everyone Jul 25 19:42:41 good evening to you Jul 25 19:42:45 screw this viewMenu Jul 25 19:42:49 I don't need it! Jul 25 19:43:05 anybody experiencing issues with GPS and 1.4.5? specially the emu Jul 25 19:43:11 getting timeouts all the time Jul 25 19:50:06 HA! Jul 25 19:50:08 got it Jul 25 19:50:35 there's definitely a bug in getCurrentPosition Jul 25 19:51:01 works like a charm if startTracking Jul 25 20:21:12 hi warpdesign Jul 25 20:21:32 good morning/afternoon whatever it is swisstomcat Jul 25 20:21:47 10:21pm Jul 25 20:21:58 3:31pm here and i just woke up Jul 25 20:25:57 hi swisstomcat Jul 25 20:27:37 dekan, slow clap is clap. clap. Clap. Clap! CLAP! Jul 25 20:27:37 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 25 20:27:41 slow clap Jul 25 20:27:41 * dekan clap. clap. Clap. Clap! CLAP! Jul 25 20:28:48 botsnack Jul 25 20:28:48 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 25 20:32:26 anyone ever played with css transitions and animations ? Jul 25 20:36:12 warpdesign: a little Jul 25 20:40:22 Tibfib: ever had problems with transitions not being applied ? Jul 25 20:41:21 yeah, i've played with it a bit Jul 25 20:41:30 warpdesign: not if I coded it right ;) Jul 25 20:41:37 ;) Jul 25 20:42:04 then tell me what's wrong here: http://www.warpdesign.fr/tests/transitionsTest.html Jul 25 20:42:10 :) Jul 25 20:42:24 the first link simply removes a class, and adds it again Jul 25 20:42:31 the class launches an animation Jul 25 20:42:46 the second link does the same, but delays the second instruction using a setTimeout Jul 25 20:42:57 as you'll see, when clicking on the first link, it only works once Jul 25 20:43:11 then each time you click on it the transition isn't applied anymore Jul 25 20:43:20 on the second one it works everytime Jul 25 20:44:02 weird Jul 25 20:45:40 try using developer tools or something... what browswer are you using? Jul 25 20:46:14 developers tools ? Jul 25 20:46:25 I don't see how this is going to help for transitions :) Jul 25 20:46:35 I meant so you can look at what's going on Jul 25 20:46:41 figure out what is being stupid Jul 25 20:46:52 well, as you can see the css are webkit only Jul 25 20:47:20 I'm using safari right now, but it should do it with chrome or any transitions-enabled webkit browser as well Jul 25 20:47:34 they worked fine in chrome Jul 25 20:47:40 and chrome has dev tools extensions Jul 25 20:48:16 hmm.. clicking on the first link several times work ? Jul 25 20:48:22 nope Jul 25 20:50:44 ok Jul 25 20:50:50 thought you said it was working :) Jul 25 20:50:58 ok, guess I'll ask on the webkit forums Jul 25 20:51:48 It works how you described it...but not how it should work. if that makes sense Jul 25 20:54:08 yes ;) Jul 25 20:54:17 hmm.. can't find any forum on the webkit forum Jul 25 21:04:06 interesting Jul 25 21:04:18 my signal bars are not even shown Jul 25 21:07:25 oh well.. on device ipk installation via internalz ftw Jul 25 21:08:52 * Tibfib wants wifi ipk installation with internalz Jul 25 21:09:01 err... not internalz. woqi Jul 25 21:09:25 just installed a ipk i was emailed :) Jul 25 21:09:40 that's nice Jul 25 21:09:47 That's not a bad solution until then Jul 25 21:12:16 and.. file editing.. Jul 25 21:12:39 if you're uber you could write an app using the device Jul 25 21:12:48 yeah, I fixed a missing div ending with it :) Jul 25 21:12:57 dawm|laptop: I don't think you can package on device :P Jul 25 21:13:06 you'd have to install a shell app first Jul 25 21:13:14 you dont have to package Jul 25 21:14:04 just make the app dir and create the files, altho images could be a a problem Jul 25 21:14:24 or is there a master list of installed apps Jul 25 21:14:53 Oh, that's true. but I think there is a master list Jul 25 21:14:59 I think palm-install does something Jul 25 21:15:17 rwhitby could confirm or dispute Jul 25 21:15:35 goodnight everyone Jul 25 21:15:46 swisstomcat: night Jul 25 21:18:58 Tibfib nope Jul 25 21:19:03 you just have to have luna rescan Jul 25 21:19:07 which can be done via preware Jul 25 21:19:13 nice Jul 25 21:19:14 i just made a dir and appinfo.json Jul 25 21:19:27 and made luna rescan via preware and the app appears Jul 25 21:19:33 I should make my next app with internalz...hah Jul 25 21:20:34 now.. i wonder where my signal bars went Jul 25 21:21:00 actually i wonder why my phone wont turn on from sleep Jul 25 21:21:20 i guess deleting an app after deleting its dir isnt good Jul 25 21:21:38 yep.. bad.. UI crashed Jul 25 21:23:29 heh Jul 25 21:25:01 still no signal bars Jul 25 21:25:26 oh no.. now the Sprint disappeared Jul 25 21:26:40 this is weird.. Jul 25 21:30:03 even odder... uploaded a sshot to photobucket and its larger than what its supposed to be Jul 25 21:30:53 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/dawm/photos-temp-0jpg.jpg Jul 25 21:31:16 and now it looks fake cause its the wrong dimensions Jul 25 21:31:59 dawm|laptop: that's huge Jul 25 21:32:01 what is this Jul 25 21:32:26 Tibfib: i know.. Jul 25 21:32:36 i think photobucket resized it on upload Jul 25 21:34:28 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/dawm/photos_2010-25-07_172605.png Jul 25 21:34:42 is the proper one.. notice how my signalbars and carrier string are gone? Jul 25 21:35:04 Hey all Jul 25 21:35:07 time to visit the doctor? Jul 25 21:35:13 it all happened after i installed the last beta of planet eaters Jul 25 21:35:37 i think kesne set me up Jul 25 21:35:52 What happened?? Jul 25 21:35:53 or i seriously have no signal heh Jul 25 21:35:59 kesne: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/dawm/photos_2010-25-07_172605.png Jul 25 21:36:08 check out the UI header.. whats missing Jul 25 21:36:10 hey that's sort of the same thing happening to me Jul 25 21:36:22 my ev is there but it's gray and never goes white Jul 25 21:36:32 thatas happened to me lately as well Jul 25 21:36:36 well it's not there anymore... and the bars go away a lot too Jul 25 21:36:47 ive never had my bars go away Jul 25 21:37:01 if i turn off wifi i just have Ev Jul 25 21:37:49 whats the app menu title for the dialer? Jul 25 21:37:59 god I hope pre #3 doesn't break Jul 25 21:39:27 im hoping my pre #2 lasts until a new device comes out Jul 25 21:40:02 ive lived with this crack on the screen for a long time, i can live with it longer if theres someting better on the way, just wish they would leak something to us ;p Jul 25 21:40:18 heh yah Jul 25 21:40:22 when i open the dialer Jul 25 21:40:28 it says Palm for the app menu Jul 25 21:40:55 planet eaters beta, internalz or filemgr service did something Jul 25 21:41:06 those were the most recent things installed/ran in the last hour Jul 25 21:41:37 whoa Jul 25 21:41:58 it just restarted with a horrible image degradation Jul 25 21:42:19 this is not good Jul 25 21:42:30 dawm Jul 25 21:42:34 dawm|laptop Jul 25 21:42:41 kense.. what did you put in that beta you sent me Jul 25 21:42:53 A C++ virus Jul 25 21:42:59 apparently Jul 25 21:42:59 It deletes some files Jul 25 21:43:11 takes advantage of the "no limits" of 1.4.1.1 Jul 25 21:43:30 Is planet eaters even pdk? Jul 25 21:43:36 pfft no Jul 25 21:43:53 hybrids don't work in 1.4.1.1 IIRC Jul 25 21:43:54 No, but it has a PDK virus in it Jul 25 21:43:55 i thought it was gonna be from the teaser movie he posted months back Jul 25 21:44:09 What teaser movie? Jul 25 21:44:19 the one you have in the app ;p Jul 25 21:44:34 There is no teaser movie in the app... Jul 25 21:44:36 which you used as the mainmenu background Jul 25 21:44:49 well its not in the app but its in the app folder Jul 25 21:45:32 your sun orbiting video Jul 25 21:45:43 or w/e it is Jul 25 21:45:48 i saw that months ago Jul 25 21:46:04 thought you had a killer pdk game in the works but it was just a sdk game Jul 25 21:46:41 Oh Jul 25 21:46:47 That game is Random Space Jul 25 21:46:59 Completely different Jul 25 21:47:08 It's a Blow-Stuff-Up game Jul 25 21:47:09 then why is the video in planet eaters Jul 25 21:47:12 FSU game Jul 25 21:47:19 It isn't in the new ones Jul 25 21:47:26 ahh Jul 25 21:47:33 so you just bloated my beta copies? Jul 25 21:47:35 :P Jul 25 21:47:37 Yeah Jul 25 21:47:39 pretty much Jul 25 21:47:47 Why were you digging around it? Jul 25 21:48:08 cause i was wondering why the ipk was friggen large Jul 25 21:48:28 Oh Jul 25 21:48:29 Heh Jul 25 21:48:33 after my phone restarted it self horribly, my Sprint and signal bars are back Jul 25 21:48:52 Once my entire top bar was gone Jul 25 21:49:41 Planet Eaters used to use that thing as an intro video Jul 25 21:50:01 ahh Jul 25 21:50:24 hehe Jul 25 21:50:27 um.. Jul 25 21:50:33 i just dialed 911 on the emulator Jul 25 21:50:37 but no one is answering Jul 25 21:50:41 lol Jul 25 21:50:55 dawm|laptop: my emulator is ringing Jul 25 21:50:58 it is you? Jul 25 21:51:02 omg Jul 25 21:51:12 *click* Jul 25 21:51:27 damn prank call Jul 25 21:51:31 Hah Jul 25 21:52:00 heh Jul 25 21:52:08 does anyone know the MSL for the emulator ? Jul 25 21:52:09 No, but if you hum a few bars I can fake it Jul 25 21:52:25 lol @ dekan Jul 25 21:53:05 I need webos-info back Jul 25 21:55:21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxKjOOR9sPU Jul 25 21:55:22 good song Jul 25 21:56:12 Meh Jul 25 21:56:39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc Jul 25 21:56:40 good song Jul 25 21:58:12 whats the song at the intro to that video? Jul 25 21:59:46 Fun fact: Planet Eaters used to be called Poplish Jul 25 21:59:58 Also funfact: the codename for Planet Eaters is pleaters Jul 25 22:00:07 answer me Jul 25 22:00:17 Poop Jul 25 22:00:18 whats the song at the intro to that awesome video you linked Jul 25 22:01:43 Like I would know Jul 25 22:01:56 youre a muscian Jul 25 22:02:49 and its in a palm ad i think Jul 25 22:03:03 yah the pixi video Jul 25 22:03:42 I'm a musician? Jul 25 22:04:11 ok play dumb Jul 25 22:04:34 And no, that's not it Jul 25 22:04:40 argh I'm tired of fake followers Jul 25 22:04:57 The palm Pixi one is SleepyHead Jul 25 22:05:03 sleepyhead fuck yeah Jul 25 22:05:21 sleepyhead is an awesome song Jul 25 22:05:26 yeah thanks. already googled it Jul 25 22:05:30 you know what's pompous feeling Jul 25 22:05:38 listening to Home while using a pre Jul 25 22:05:57 i love my macbook's inability to use youtube Jul 25 22:06:05 yeah it's pretty great Jul 25 22:06:10 you know what's really good at youtube Jul 25 22:06:13 the ipad Jul 25 22:06:14 * torchie dies. Jul 25 22:06:19 . my pre is better . Jul 25 22:06:23 torchie: It actually is really good Jul 25 22:06:26 Pre is too slow Jul 25 22:06:39 Pre derps on youtube for me at random Jul 25 22:06:53 like.. i closed the tab.. but the audio is still playing from the music video that failed to keep sync Jul 25 22:07:07 it is no wonder apple hates adobe Jul 25 22:07:54 cause they cant make hardware tahts compatible with a cross platform platform? Jul 25 22:08:07 forced to use my pre to watch youtube... ;D Jul 25 22:08:16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00wKyh-7ccw Jul 25 22:08:32 Is it just me or is this guy totally unnatural with his pre in the begginning Jul 25 22:09:22 i totally wish the camera and speaker were swapped Jul 25 22:10:17 or the youtube app noticing orientation change Jul 25 22:10:19 kesne: he is trying to avoid the death grip Jul 25 22:10:52 Pre has a deathgrip Jul 25 22:10:56 but it's hard to do Jul 25 22:11:32 the best/worst part of that video Jul 25 22:11:37 is the UI should be backwards to US Jul 25 22:11:49 yeah, I've noticed that. Jul 25 22:11:55 Kind of odd videos Jul 25 22:12:12 and app transitions arent correct Jul 25 22:12:26 like when he answers the call and everything slides up so the dialer comes into view.. Jul 25 22:12:28 cmon.. Jul 25 22:13:02 Everything slides up from the bottom Jul 25 22:13:04 In the video Jul 25 22:13:12 * haeffb couldn't deathgrip my pre Jul 25 22:13:21 haeffb: Don't make me make a video... Jul 25 22:13:27 AND Jul 25 22:13:39 his tossing of the card.. was a little too exagerated Jul 25 22:13:39 I saw the video, just couldn't duplicate it Jul 25 22:13:59 it was like he was playing golden tee with his thumb Jul 25 22:14:03 I can Jul 25 22:14:07 Let me show you Jul 25 22:14:35 oh.. man Jul 25 22:14:42 I mean, if I drop my pre in the toilet, it loses signal after a bit... Jul 25 22:14:46 i think i spotted something Jul 25 22:14:50 Uh oh Jul 25 22:14:52 What is it? Jul 25 22:15:03 hold im verifing Jul 25 22:15:11 oh no nm Jul 25 22:15:17 What did u think? Jul 25 22:15:32 i thought the flag for flagged emails was on the left side, but it is actually on the right Jul 25 22:16:12 the text messages are funnyy Jul 25 22:16:24 'Hello, you still there? I see you.' Jul 25 22:17:04 My problem with that Jul 25 22:17:11 Why text when they are online in their IM client? Jul 25 22:17:25 yah Jul 25 22:18:25 but Jul 25 22:18:36 maybe thats where the I see you comment is coming from Jul 25 22:18:43 they see he's online Jul 25 22:18:52 but still sending txts he Jul 25 22:18:54 h Jul 25 22:19:39 who is edward sharpe Jul 25 22:19:52 I think he's the artist of the song Jul 25 22:20:44 ok Jul 25 22:20:50 whats Cascade Project Jul 25 22:21:22 no clue. I found out he was the artist by the youtube comments Jul 25 22:21:39 its playing in pandora Jul 25 22:21:45 well Edward Sharpe Radio Jul 25 22:22:00 also, i noticed when he touches the calendar, they used the touch puddle Jul 25 22:22:05 they didnt miss a thing ;p Jul 25 22:23:34 AND Jul 25 22:23:49 in the fine print.. 'Limitations apply to multitasking' Jul 25 22:23:56 ill assume that means the TMC error Jul 25 22:25:07 Probably Jul 25 22:25:12 or the cdma thing... can't use voice and data at the same time Jul 25 22:25:34 I just used internalz to change checkers to version 9000.0.0 Jul 25 22:26:32 kesne, i confirmed you can write an app thru internalz + preware (to tell luna to rescan) Jul 25 22:26:59 I think you could restart your phone to get luna to rescan Jul 25 22:27:11 maybe. Jul 25 22:27:15 yeah you can Jul 25 22:27:24 but that kinda of restart takes forever Jul 25 22:27:40 but once the app is acknowledged you dont have to rescan Jul 25 22:27:50 you just rescan to get the icon in the launcher Jul 25 22:27:55 yeah... but that means you don't HAVE to use preware Jul 25 22:28:03 but everyone loves preware Jul 25 22:28:13 true. I have been bested Jul 25 22:28:35 heh Jul 25 22:28:39 that Lily Baker.. Jul 25 22:28:52 shes in the Life Moves Fast - Shoes commercial too Jul 25 22:29:09 dawm|laptop: watch out for the webos rescan bug Jul 25 22:29:20 rescan kills all services Jul 25 22:29:29 Messaging, Google Maps, Pandora, and Calendar Jul 25 22:29:30 you could do a java restart after that Jul 25 22:29:43 Tibfib: that might have been what killed my Signal Bars and Carrier String Jul 25 22:29:54 Tibfib: you have to restart the persistent apps too Jul 25 22:30:05 rwhitby: oh really? that sucks Jul 25 22:30:34 yep. that's why Preware has an option to avoid that bug Jul 25 22:30:35 ok.. soo im disappointed with palm Jul 25 22:30:48 dawm|laptop: join the club Jul 25 22:30:53 you know the text messages that were in the video with the guy at the airport? Jul 25 22:30:58 yep Jul 25 22:31:06 its the EXACT same messages with the girl walking down the street video Jul 25 22:31:07 Are they the SAME as the other commercials??? Jul 25 22:31:25 are the colors reversed? Jul 25 22:31:30 nope Jul 25 22:31:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw1eNoCmoeo&feature=channel Jul 25 22:31:39 aww. that would be cool. they were just lazy Jul 25 22:31:51 well.. i didnt miss it ;p Jul 25 22:31:59 do i win a prize for not missing a thing? Jul 25 22:32:11 rwhitby: you where able to make an app which changes the title tab on the app menu is that right? Jul 25 22:32:49 ALSO Jul 25 22:32:52 the caller Jul 25 22:32:53 dawm|laptop: hahaha you should tweet that to palm Jul 25 22:32:57 is the same Jul 25 22:33:00 has the same number Jul 25 22:33:02 but different names Jul 25 22:33:05 Sadie and Amy Jul 25 22:33:22 LoneStar99: just edit appinfo.json to do that Jul 25 22:36:09 rwhitby: can it changed within an app function? Jul 25 22:36:36 rwhitby just temporarily like an overlay of title? Jul 25 22:36:39 an app can change it's own appinfo.json file. Jul 25 22:37:04 rwhitby: non pdk? Jul 25 22:37:18 no Jul 25 22:37:21 rwhitby: would you have snippet for it? Jul 25 22:37:31 pure mojo apps can't do squat Jul 25 22:37:41 I do not Jul 25 22:38:02 Tibfib: they only reused the txt image in 2 of the 3 ads, but used the same caller in all three Jul 25 22:38:16 nothing escapes you dawm|laptop Jul 25 22:38:37 dekan, nothing escapes dawm Jul 25 22:38:37 I cannot access that data. Jul 25 22:38:43 botsmack Jul 25 22:38:43 * dekan cowers Jul 25 22:38:53 lol Jul 25 22:39:01 Tibfib: now try and fit all that into a tweet Jul 25 22:40:10 "@palm I didn't miss a thing. http://youtu.be/blahblah you used the same # in all 3 vids and same texts in 2" Jul 25 22:40:28 thats too long Jul 25 22:40:31 eerr "@palm http://youtu.be/blahblah you used the same # in all 3 vids and same texts in 2. do i win a prize for not missing a thing?" Jul 25 22:40:31 :P Jul 25 22:40:46 no it's not Jul 25 22:40:50 13 char's to spare Jul 25 22:41:01 i already tweeted something Jul 25 22:41:01 LOL Jul 25 22:41:12 someone just thanked PalmFlashCards for MY APP Jul 25 22:41:15 Lame. Mine was better Jul 25 22:41:24 rwhitby: ok thanks, i just thought of another idea Jul 25 22:41:24 but he was such as great guy and corrected them ;P Jul 25 22:49:20 bah Jul 25 22:49:23 Mifi = suck Jul 25 22:49:46 heh Jul 25 22:49:48 odd Jul 25 22:50:01 there appears to be a bug in tweetie's UI Jul 25 22:50:15 or a feature i dont understand Jul 25 22:50:26 What is it? Jul 25 22:50:47 theres a fading box behind some tweets Jul 25 22:51:28 kesne: did you remove your twitter image? cause its gone Jul 25 22:51:42 dawm|laptop: Not on purpose, but I know Jul 25 22:51:50 heh Jul 25 22:52:16 http://twitter.com/kesne/ Jul 25 22:52:18 not gone Jul 25 22:52:50 tweetie isnt picking it up Jul 25 22:52:53 its just empty Jul 25 22:52:59 No client is Jul 25 22:53:01 it's strange Jul 25 22:53:37 maybe cause its huge? Jul 25 22:53:42 and they dont resize? Jul 25 22:53:46 tis not Jul 25 22:54:07 yawn Jul 25 22:54:46 where do you even change it.. i honestly cannot find it Jul 25 22:55:03 Heh Jul 25 22:55:17 That picture == evertyhing Jul 25 22:55:37 i confirm, kesne's photo is on his twitter page Jul 25 22:55:53 I really should take a new one Jul 25 22:56:06 That one is used on like everything, and it's a few months old Jul 25 22:56:27 kesne: your pic still on twitter Jul 25 22:56:37 i didnt say it wasnt on twitter Jul 25 22:56:43 its just not showing in my client Jul 25 22:56:47 Heh Jul 25 22:56:53 It doesn't show in tweetie Jul 25 22:56:55 wow, i almost have a place to sleep again Jul 25 22:56:55 Or anything else Jul 25 22:57:09 I should change it back to the koolaid man Jul 25 22:57:18 where do you chagne the profile image/ Jul 25 22:57:51 stupid! Jul 25 22:58:03 you have to click on it to change it? why not have that option in the settings page.. Jul 25 22:58:10 its like facebook.. Jul 25 22:58:23 oh wait Jul 25 22:58:33 the link goes to settings, but theres no setting Jul 25 22:58:41 maybe kesne broke twitter Jul 25 22:59:00 no, i'm pretty sure i broke it Jul 25 22:59:09 No, I own twitter Jul 25 22:59:15 is wirc the only irc client for webos ? Jul 25 22:59:20 No Jul 25 22:59:32 I've noticed that my media connections have dwindled down over time Jul 25 22:59:42 hmm...anyone have experience using the repair utility on a verizon pre plus? Jul 25 23:00:07 I used to able to get anything I wanted (basically) posted on 4-5 sites Jul 25 23:00:11 Now It's 1-2 Jul 25 23:01:39 knocked up has the best comedic cast Jul 25 23:01:59 Your mom has the best comedic cast Jul 25 23:02:32 i didnt get a chance to buy planeteaters during the sale.. did you really use the nomnom sound? Jul 25 23:03:08 What do you mean? Jul 25 23:03:18 the nomnomnomnom video i sent u Jul 25 23:03:27 No Jul 25 23:03:37 The version you have has the noms though Jul 25 23:03:54 oh cause i read the wOR review and it said it used the internet meme nomnom Jul 25 23:04:01 Yeah Jul 25 23:04:19 theres more than one nomnom? Jul 25 23:04:32 Yeah Jul 25 23:04:36 Just try app Jul 25 23:04:38 fail Jul 25 23:04:39 i did Jul 25 23:04:47 scoring is offline Jul 25 23:04:52 Hah Jul 25 23:04:56 Only in the beta ;) Jul 25 23:05:16 i wonder if you just commented it out ;p Jul 25 23:05:37 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024 Jul 25 23:05:44 ? Jul 25 23:06:36 roadkill beer, such an awesome idea Jul 25 23:06:58 dawm|laptop: different servers Jul 25 23:07:10 pleaters.. Jul 25 23:07:13 soo lame ;p Jul 25 23:07:19 ? Jul 25 23:07:27 Pleaters is the old codename Jul 25 23:07:31 Used inside the company Jul 25 23:07:33 just seeing pleaters makes me giggle Jul 25 23:07:40 Why? Jul 25 23:07:45 Poplish is the original name Jul 25 23:07:50 From 7 months ago Jul 25 23:08:15 I really should actually make Wellow Jul 25 23:09:59 what happened with that? Jul 25 23:10:02 thats uber old Jul 25 23:10:09 That's really, really old Jul 25 23:10:29 almost a year Jul 25 23:11:17 It's PDK, that's what happened Jul 25 23:11:34 its not pdk Jul 25 23:11:58 It is now Jul 25 23:12:06 The performance was crap without it Jul 25 23:12:13 So It runs on TGE now Jul 25 23:12:19 It's about 40% done Jul 25 23:12:21 tge? Jul 25 23:12:24 Core done, needs story, etc Jul 25 23:12:26 torque Jul 25 23:12:35 TGE = The Godfather Engine Jul 25 23:13:06 heh ok Jul 25 23:13:34 i dont think so Jul 25 23:15:01 aweomse Jul 25 23:15:08 LBP2 collectors edition Jul 25 23:15:10 http://static2.videogamer.com/videogamer/images/pub/large/lbp2_ce.jpg Jul 25 23:15:19 book ends, game and 7" Plushie SackBoy Jul 25 23:17:16 TGE is Keen Studios' game engine Jul 25 23:17:17 PDK Jul 25 23:17:21 Designed around webOS Jul 25 23:17:28 TGE is already taken fool Jul 25 23:17:33 Deadspace is made with TGE Jul 25 23:17:39 We don't call it TGE Jul 25 23:17:45 we call it The Godfather Engine Jul 25 23:17:56 well The Godfather Engine is from EA Jul 25 23:18:12 really? Jul 25 23:18:18 and is what Deadspace and other games use.. specifically The Godfather game Jul 25 23:18:35 Well, good thing that it's not a public thing Jul 25 23:18:35 its an open world engine Jul 25 23:18:38 heh Jul 25 23:18:48 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4820500851_75aa35bc90_o.jpg Jul 25 23:18:49 We'll probably rename it and release it eventually Jul 25 23:18:58 awsome.. im totally getting the LBP2 Collectors kit Jul 25 23:19:17 Gonzo costume FTW Jul 25 23:21:04 hah Jul 25 23:21:14 TGE is really nice though Jul 25 23:21:27 Designed for fast, high quality production Jul 25 23:21:31 Tons of tools Jul 25 23:21:34 Level designer Jul 25 23:21:39 Good stuff Jul 25 23:22:02 Pre-built AI's Jul 25 23:22:09 Designed around webOS Jul 25 23:22:20 Hybrid or Full PDK apps both supported Jul 25 23:22:40 Easy JS/PDK usage Jul 25 23:22:55 battery dying Jul 25 23:23:03 For passing values, strings, etc back and forth Jul 25 23:24:07 argh Jul 25 23:24:25 i know its not its fault, but ever since i installed internalz, my pre is acting weird Jul 25 23:25:04 screen flickers, a random reboot w/ display degradation (like it lost all its juice) Jul 25 23:26:01 lke when waking from sleep.. theres a good 2-3 flickers before full brightness (configured not actually 100%) Jul 25 23:26:44 :D Jul 25 23:27:20 i actually have my brightness at about 15% (guestimate.. its at about the h in brightness) Jul 25 23:37:10 whats a good rss client that integrates with google reader ? Jul 25 23:37:32 kesne's mom Jul 25 23:39:12 what? Jul 25 23:39:19 Oh Jul 25 23:39:23 Actaully, yeah Jul 25 23:41:22 Hey everybody! Jul 25 23:42:07 Funny Jul 25 23:42:12 Checkers downloads are going up now Jul 25 23:42:33 OII, http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/25/dude-walks-across-america-shoots-stop-motion-movie-with-canon-5d-mark-ii/ Jul 25 23:42:44 same song as earlier Jul 25 23:43:40 Sleepyhead Jul 25 23:43:43 ER Jul 25 23:43:44 No Jul 25 23:43:47 no Jul 25 23:43:47 Home, or whatever Jul 25 23:43:55 yeah Jul 25 23:44:00 home that kinda sounds like palm Jul 25 23:44:10 we've got palm .. Jul 25 23:44:23 wut Jul 25 23:44:52 it sounds like 'we got palm' 'palm is wherever im with you' Jul 25 23:48:28 Oh Jul 25 23:48:33 lolololol Jul 25 23:49:19 I LOVE Mysteryguitarman Jul 25 23:49:24 wtf, doppleganger Jul 25 23:49:31 LOLOL Jul 25 23:49:41 dekan: oil_pre Jul 25 23:49:41 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Jul 25 23:49:44 :O Jul 25 23:49:48 dekan: oil Jul 25 23:49:48 Unhand me, defiler! Jul 25 23:50:13 I want webos-info! :'( Jul 25 23:50:56 wait a second.. Jul 25 23:51:13 that song is by Temper Trap Jul 25 23:51:22 which is what started the whole youtube conversation in the first place Jul 25 23:51:58 when i linked it and said good song, and you replied with that I'm Awesome, which triggered the pixi ad and then the life moves fast ads Jul 25 23:52:11 round in round we go Jul 25 23:52:22 IO Echo Jul 25 23:52:39 and lemketron tweeted about that stop motion video Jul 25 23:53:00 who is lemketron? Jul 25 23:53:23 All I can think of is lemons and funkatron married Jul 25 23:53:32 steve lemke Jul 25 23:53:43 who is geist? Jul 25 23:59:19 geist Jul 26 00:02:40 jordan can be slow at times.. so far today he seems really slow Jul 26 00:04:00 android just got a full fledged ps1 emulator in the market :o Jul 26 00:04:15 by sony? Jul 26 00:04:29 cause if sony made them pull the lemmings port, im sure they will get that pulled Jul 26 00:07:11 you know how they say 'dont drink and drive', well 'dont drink and bone' .. Jul 26 00:09:17 well the other emulators haven't been pulled Jul 26 00:09:32 they technically can't do anything about it since the emulator isn't distributed with the bios Jul 26 00:10:59 I think I broke my phone...lol Jul 26 00:11:11 the repair utility has been running for 9 hours Jul 26 00:16:11 http://twitter.com/PalmPreGuru/status/19530969348 Jul 26 00:16:20 go vote **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:24:03 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:26:15 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:26:22 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:28:15 2010 Jul 26 00:52:59 this is awesome: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/25/dude-walks-across-america-shoots-stop-motion-movie-with-canon-5d-mark-ii/ Jul 26 00:53:51 Tibfib: welcome to an hour ago ;p Jul 26 00:53:57 haha, my bad Jul 26 00:54:11 :P Jul 26 00:54:13 it's still cool though :P Jul 26 00:54:17 yeah Jul 26 00:54:24 low tech approach too Jul 26 00:54:34 string and a printout for the orbitals Jul 26 00:54:55 do you know what the song is called? Jul 26 00:55:00 yeh Jul 26 00:55:32 wanna tell me? Jul 26 00:55:49 its also in that palm ad i disected Jul 26 00:56:26 oh yeah. Jul 26 00:56:44 Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros - Home Jul 26 00:57:48 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4306i99LMXo Jul 26 01:06:14 dawm|laptop: oh thanks Jul 26 01:06:31 i still think they're saying Palm and not Home ;p Jul 26 01:08:03 hah, I don't. Jul 26 01:08:27 muhahaha Jul 26 01:08:29 Biff is back Jul 26 01:08:38 dekan: hide Jul 26 01:08:38 Not a bloody clue, sir. Jul 26 01:08:41 botsmack Jul 26 01:08:41 OUCH Jul 26 01:08:56 dekan: new computer Jul 26 01:08:56 Error at 0x08: Reference not found Jul 26 01:09:09 dekan, hide is hides Jul 26 01:09:09 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 26 01:09:21 dekan, hide! Jul 26 01:09:21 * dekan hides Jul 26 01:09:26 scoobysnack Jul 26 01:09:26 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 26 01:10:38 killer, quicken people giving me free reinstall since old comp died Jul 26 01:10:55 * Tibfib wants a psx emu for pre Jul 26 01:10:59 a what? Jul 26 01:11:01 well, pre2 Jul 26 01:11:05 quicken doesnt have licenses Jul 26 01:12:09 well, im gettin it free anyway Jul 26 01:12:29 heh cool Jul 26 01:12:46 Sushil in the chat room hooked me up, heh Jul 26 01:12:51 i love india Jul 26 01:13:17 i hate it when they're called Bob or Jenny Jul 26 01:13:21 when i know they arent Jul 26 01:13:29 specially on the phone Jul 26 01:14:21 I was on sprints chat once with Ana Leza .. i wannted to kill her Jul 26 01:14:30 infact i think i told her a few times when she was being stupid Jul 26 01:15:19 i dont recall what the issue was but im sure the chat got flagged, because after the repated generated replies i was getting a bit heated with my replies Jul 26 01:15:26 i cussed a poor indian on the phone for 30 minutes when they told me they wouldnt fix my comp Jul 26 01:15:48 i have a notebook of sprint phone numbers Jul 26 01:15:49 wouldnt fix the motherboard because the touchpad button was broken Jul 26 01:16:03 i left sprint after 4 years to goto Helio, and then i switched back Jul 26 01:16:23 took me 2 weeks to get service after that mess, because helio used sprints network so my number was stuck between the two Jul 26 01:16:34 heh Jul 26 01:16:36 my lesson is... Jul 26 01:16:44 dont buy from circuit city Jul 26 01:16:46 oh wait... Jul 26 01:16:47 heh Jul 26 01:17:16 i managed to come out ahead, and the sprint rebate that was supposed to be $100 turned out to be the full price i paid for my HTC Mogul ($380~) Jul 26 01:17:26 so it worked out even tho it was a huge headache Jul 26 01:17:55 But that Anna Leza chat rep.. die!! Jul 26 01:17:59 heh Jul 26 01:18:09 a psx emulator for pre1 would be awesome too! Jul 26 01:18:15 or at reast supa nintenda Jul 26 01:18:34 torchie: yeah, but I doubt the pre could handle it Jul 26 01:18:38 torchie: do we have enough memory to have a psx emu Jul 26 01:18:47 maybe the Pre Plus Jul 26 01:19:13 * Tibfib plays the vba emu more than any other game Jul 26 01:19:27 I grew up playing gba, all my fav games are on it Jul 26 01:19:50 heh i still have my original GB and GameGenie for GB Jul 26 01:19:52 finally have storms coming here Jul 26 01:20:47 finally have storms coming here Jul 26 01:20:57 you said that Jul 26 01:21:33 dawm|laptop: he finally has storms coming in Jul 26 01:21:40 well my client killed my connection so i didn't know if it went through Jul 26 01:21:45 oh he has storms finally coming? Jul 26 01:21:56 dekan, say EmmettLollis has storms coming in Jul 26 01:21:56 So's your face. Jul 26 01:22:00 HAHAHHAHA Jul 26 01:22:02 hey Jul 26 01:22:06 botsnack Jul 26 01:22:06 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 26 01:22:17 say EmmettLollis has storms coming in Jul 26 01:22:17 EmmettLollis has storms coming in! Jul 26 01:22:21 there, that's better Jul 26 01:22:30 heh Jul 26 01:22:45 it's been like 100 degrees every day with no releif Jul 26 01:22:50 b3ll: howdy Jul 26 01:22:58 hey Tibfib whats up Jul 26 01:23:11 not much, trying to work on an app. not getting much done Jul 26 01:23:27 lol Jul 26 01:23:32 any exp.? Jul 26 01:23:38 a bit Jul 26 01:23:40 DOUBLE XP WEEKEND! Jul 26 01:23:51 YES Jul 26 01:24:46 dawm: Jul 26 01:24:52 torchie: Jul 26 01:24:55 anyone know of any tech docs on the pre media sync? Jul 26 01:24:58 the most powerful PSP had 64 MB of ram Jul 26 01:25:06 even the 32MB ram psp emulated PSX full speed Jul 26 01:25:18 so I guess it's a question of the processor and graphics chip, which are also probably more powerful than PSP Jul 26 01:25:27 so I guess it's a question of the overhead of the operating system Jul 26 01:25:27 torchie but was it also waiting for a call, txt, email .. etc Jul 26 01:25:31 yeah Jul 26 01:25:36 that may be a problem Jul 26 01:25:52 yeah, but the psx emu is made especially for psp by.. sony Jul 26 01:25:55 palm said you can make emulators Jul 26 01:25:57 yeah that's the other problem Jul 26 01:26:04 sony dropped it like it's hot Jul 26 01:26:10 can yo submit them to the catalog? Jul 26 01:26:15 you. Jul 26 01:26:17 I hope that happens in droves Jul 26 01:26:19 but if sony pulled the lemmings port, im sure they're pull any emulators Jul 26 01:26:42 but there are psx emu's for android..in hte market Jul 26 01:26:42 Tibfib: i dont know, maybe if you have permission to do so Jul 26 01:26:43 well I think the android PSX emu is the first case of an emulator being sold in a mobile device's app market Jul 26 01:26:55 nope. it's not Jul 26 01:26:58 there are other emus there Jul 26 01:26:59 oh. Jul 26 01:27:02 torchie: but for how long Jul 26 01:27:08 but really these emulators aren't being distributed with the BIOS or games so I don't think it's a problem Jul 26 01:27:17 I can't remember what it was but a guy showed me an emu on his droid Jul 26 01:27:21 a WHILE ago Jul 26 01:27:29 was it from the market though? Jul 26 01:27:32 being sold for 5bux? Jul 26 01:27:34 yep Jul 26 01:27:36 the NES Emu for webOS is 5bux Jul 26 01:27:43 the nes emu is crap Jul 26 01:27:49 use the debian one Jul 26 01:27:50 I remember they sold a PS1 emulator for dreamcast and sony tore em a new one Jul 26 01:28:01 torchie: did it have the bios? Jul 26 01:28:01 torchie: bleemcast Jul 26 01:28:04 it was also for PC Jul 26 01:28:08 Bleem! Jul 26 01:28:12 bios == sony kills you Jul 26 01:28:13 tibfib: I'm not sure if bleem came with the bios Jul 26 01:28:19 probably did Jul 26 01:28:22 torchie: it had to of Jul 26 01:28:33 cuz it's like, how do you distribute an emulator on a disc and not include the BIOS Jul 26 01:28:35 cause all you did was put the bleem disc in and then replace it with a psx one Jul 26 01:28:37 same on the PC Jul 26 01:28:47 anvirom had nesem and he said it ran great Jul 26 01:28:56 but it only worked with orignal discs Jul 26 01:29:00 * Tibfib wants gpsp/gpsphone on pre Jul 26 01:29:19 vba runs great on 800mHz Jul 26 01:29:25 I'm just really itching for a full speed, special-chip compatibility SNES emulator on a mobile device that I own Jul 26 01:29:34 but the gp-- ones are fully optimized Jul 26 01:29:38 im really itching for 1.4.5 Jul 26 01:29:48 fuckn sprint Jul 26 01:29:51 megaman and pokemon didn't run so great for me on VBA at 800mhz :( Jul 26 01:29:55 dawm|laptop: why don't you doctor? Jul 26 01:30:06 i'm waiting on 2.0.1.2 Jul 26 01:30:07 I'm itching for that "leaderboard retooling" Jul 26 01:30:07 i love my phone contents too much Jul 26 01:30:08 torchie: did you do the performance govenor Jul 26 01:30:09 when's that going down Jul 26 01:30:14 tibfib I did screenstate Jul 26 01:30:19 do performance Jul 26 01:30:20 lol @EmmettLollis Jul 26 01:30:22 works much better Jul 26 01:30:24 really? Jul 26 01:30:25 hmm Jul 26 01:30:28 yep Jul 26 01:30:30 huge difference Jul 26 01:30:41 Tibfib : why do you say gpsp over vba Jul 26 01:30:46 under what criteria does performance governor set to minimum speed Jul 26 01:30:57 i dont want to doctor cause its taken me a long time to get my pre how i like and ive never had to doctor it yet Jul 26 01:31:02 torchie: never. Jul 26 01:31:05 dawm|laptop you can have 1.4.5 right now Jul 26 01:31:07 huh. Jul 26 01:31:09 just set it back to screenstate when you are done with vba Jul 26 01:31:09 I'll have to wait until tuesday to hook my pre up again, that's when I'm getting my #3 from sprint Jul 26 01:31:09 torchie: when the screen is off Jul 26 01:31:19 and I'm really hype to try out the new Internals Jul 26 01:31:21 internalz* Jul 26 01:31:29 i had 200/800 Jul 26 01:31:40 very bad to do that btw Jul 26 01:31:41 200 when phone was 'sleep', 800 when i was using it Jul 26 01:31:43 has anyone checked to see if internalz' text editor has word wrap? Jul 26 01:31:46 keep it at 500/800 Jul 26 01:31:47 in the new one anyway Jul 26 01:31:54 how would I convert "-webkit-Border-radius" to javascript ? Jul 26 01:31:59 the greater the scaling the more battery is used Jul 26 01:32:00 yeah I heard for some reason doing lower than 500 screenstate is absolutely terrible and will kill your children Jul 26 01:32:03 b3ll: I think the gpsphone one is much more optimized for the iPhone which has the same processor as the pre Jul 26 01:32:03 LoneStar99: you dont Jul 26 01:32:09 the old one I guess Jul 26 01:32:16 its CSS .. not JS Jul 26 01:32:22 javascript naming I mean Jul 26 01:32:28 oh let me look Jul 26 01:32:31 i used it once before Jul 26 01:32:33 I think it is just more optimized... but the details of emulation escape my reach Jul 26 01:32:38 heh Jul 26 01:32:42 thanks - dawm|laptop Jul 26 01:32:46 im coming from iphone dev Jul 26 01:32:52 doing pre and ios Jul 26 01:32:58 since android can go fuck itself Jul 26 01:32:59 I'm wondering what sorts of optimizations are needed for VBA on webOS Jul 26 01:33:00 hello b3ll Jul 26 01:33:07 hey LoneStar99 Jul 26 01:33:16 can you do profiling? Jul 26 01:33:24 yea Jul 26 01:33:25 torchie: I think the sound isn't well done Jul 26 01:33:26 I want to dev for a webOS tablet Jul 26 01:33:42 torchie: yeah, it's way easy to switch profiles in govnah Jul 26 01:33:50 no I mean like Jul 26 01:33:57 time measurements of how long certain functions take Jul 26 01:33:59 to execute Jul 26 01:34:06 Tibfib you dont have compcache with warthog do you? Jul 26 01:34:10 nope Jul 26 01:34:22 I need to keep my device semi normal for app testing Jul 26 01:34:23 like on OSX they have Shark where you can profile a program and it shows which operations are taking the most time Jul 26 01:34:48 the palm-worm tool kind of does that...not really Jul 26 01:34:59 just shows memory usage at any given time... Jul 26 01:35:03 lol torchie dont worry about that in webOS Jul 26 01:35:11 it has garbage collection afaik anyways Jul 26 01:35:20 WebkitBorderRadius Jul 26 01:35:37 this.controller.get('elementId').style.WebkitBorderRadius = '1em'; Jul 26 01:35:38 dawm: thank u very much Jul 26 01:35:51 dawm|laptop do you know of any tech docs on the pre media sync Jul 26 01:36:00 whats pre media sync Jul 26 01:36:06 syncing with itunes Jul 26 01:36:21 no i dont Jul 26 01:36:28 i think it got nuked Jul 26 01:36:33 oh it did Jul 26 01:36:38 i just want the docs on how it worked Jul 26 01:36:46 oh, I don't think there are any Jul 26 01:36:50 not sure if there were any published Jul 26 01:36:55 mmmmm Jul 26 01:37:12 you could dig around an old rom Jul 26 01:37:20 there might be comments in one of the various scripts Jul 26 01:37:37 I think the media sync is the exact same in the current roms Jul 26 01:37:40 just iTunes changed Jul 26 01:37:55 i rmemeber them 'giving up' Jul 26 01:38:01 and i think they just removed it Jul 26 01:38:07 nah, you can enable it Jul 26 01:38:14 my pre hasnt had a media sync button when i plug in usb Jul 26 01:38:22 just charge and usb drive Jul 26 01:38:27 open up device menu app Jul 26 01:38:29 altho i might have patchd Jul 26 01:38:29 then hit app menu Jul 26 01:39:10 I use it for syncing with media monkey Jul 26 01:39:14 yeah but i think that just nukes the iTunes folder Jul 26 01:39:34 nope Jul 26 01:39:43 it does exactly what it used to do... AFAIK Jul 26 01:39:48 all the pre did when it was in media sync mode was told the computer it was an ipod Jul 26 01:39:55 which is just a usb drive Jul 26 01:40:01 with special folders Jul 26 01:40:16 it still does that.. it's just that now iTunes doesn't allow the pre to sync Jul 26 01:40:32 yea you can Jul 26 01:40:49 im going to re-enable it Jul 26 01:40:56 in iTunes? Jul 26 01:41:06 with the pre Jul 26 01:45:06 So Bell has 1.4.5 ... Jul 26 01:47:11 * Tibfib might just doctor to 1.4.5 Jul 26 01:47:18 tired of waiting. Jul 26 01:47:21 dawm|laptop: worked great! Jul 26 01:52:24 np Jul 26 01:56:25 I think I'll just wait and then DOUBLE RAINBOW the day 1.4.5 hits officially Jul 26 02:00:45 v1.4.5 Jul 26 02:00:45 v1.4.5 is never coming Jul 26 02:00:56 thank you dekan Jul 26 02:06:25 1.4.5.1 Jul 26 02:06:25 1.4.5.1 is never coming Jul 26 02:06:29 :( Jul 26 02:21:03 hmm Jul 26 02:22:41 hmm... Jul 26 02:22:52 Hmmm... New Sunglasses Jul 26 02:22:55 hmm Jul 26 02:23:07 Maui Jim's ftw Jul 26 02:23:20 dekan, say HRMMMMM.... Jul 26 02:23:20 UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TERMINATING Jul 26 02:23:27 say hrmmmmmm... Jul 26 02:23:27 Hrmmmmmm! Jul 26 02:23:29 this silence is deafening Jul 26 02:23:34 slow clap Jul 26 02:23:35 * dekan clap. clap. Clap. Clap! CLAP! Jul 26 02:23:56 300 dollars well spent Jul 26 02:24:53 raam Jul 26 02:38:20 hmm :) Jul 26 02:38:51 i think I'll make a gui to sdlnes or w.e it is in debian chroot Jul 26 02:39:22 b3ll: improve vba :) Jul 26 02:39:34 * Tibfib would if he knew how Jul 26 02:39:39 lool Jul 26 02:39:45 i have no idea Jul 26 02:39:56 either that or gapless playback in the media app Jul 26 02:40:19 that would take editing the media player backend wouldnt it? Jul 26 02:40:34 of course Jul 26 02:40:37 i hate the music.app Jul 26 02:40:48 tried nanplayer? Jul 26 02:40:55 yea i wanna talk to that dev Jul 26 02:40:59 In most ways it is better. Jul 26 02:41:01 help work on nanplayer Jul 26 02:41:13 he won't let you. that's my bet Jul 26 02:41:18 why not? Jul 26 02:41:27 just how he is Jul 26 02:41:37 unless you have something AMAZING to offer of course Jul 26 02:41:38 prick? Jul 26 02:41:51 no not a prick. Jul 26 02:41:55 ah Jul 26 02:42:02 just a closed source developer Jul 26 02:42:06 then maybe ill make my own Jul 26 02:42:21 im a dj + programmer Jul 26 02:42:22 hah, if you do, let me know. I want to add something slick to it. Jul 26 02:42:33 so music-oriented apps come natural to me :P Jul 26 02:43:19 b3ll: well I'd be willing to work on more for it but there is something in particular I want to do Jul 26 02:43:31 I'm not sure why I'm keeping it a secret though :) Jul 26 02:43:35 haha Jul 26 02:43:43 not mucha point in an opensource community Jul 26 02:45:12 Tibfib does rod ever come on here? Jul 26 02:45:19 yep Jul 26 02:45:24 he's here now Jul 26 02:45:25 rwhitby Jul 26 02:45:53 although he's always online.. not sure if he's _here_ Jul 26 02:46:13 * rwhitby is always watching Jul 26 02:47:30 ohey rwhitby Jul 26 02:47:55 do you know much about palm's media sync? Jul 26 02:47:55 No, but if you hum a few bars I can fake it Jul 26 02:48:18 do re mi fa so la ti do Jul 26 02:48:31 scoobysnack Jul 26 02:48:31 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 26 02:48:35 LOL Jul 26 02:48:51 if it wasn't for you meddling kids Jul 26 02:49:28 such music app hate Jul 26 02:49:35 b3ll: it's done with some proprietary binaries Jul 26 02:49:44 binary blobs? Jul 26 02:49:56 rwhitby : do you know which ones? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 02:59:57 2010