**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 16 02:59:56 2010 Aug 16 03:00:02 canvas is really cool, Aug 16 03:00:08 Yea its easy to use Aug 16 03:00:22 its got a pdk feel without the complexity of c++ and the robustness of pdk Aug 16 03:00:27 yeah built a drawing app some months back Aug 16 03:01:13 has a 1 rating Yee Ha! Aug 16 03:01:23 in? Aug 16 03:01:44 overall Aug 16 03:01:48 yea Ha! Aug 16 03:01:55 yee Ha! Aug 16 03:02:13 heh a guy from los angeles saying yee ha... Aug 16 03:02:17 you really are a texan now Aug 16 03:02:30 nice Aug 16 03:02:38 or whereever you're from :P Aug 16 03:02:58 not from this world, just a visitor Aug 16 03:03:13 you're sure picking up the customs Aug 16 03:04:28 yeah forsure, next stop is mars, gonna have hot tea with some crazy aliens Aug 16 03:04:43 noice did that last year Aug 16 03:04:49 got teh scar to prove it Aug 16 03:06:29 killer Aug 16 03:07:30 this is my favorite: http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/2008/02/16/sombrero_galaxy.jpg "Sombero" Aug 16 03:11:43 dekan:make me a sandwich Aug 16 03:11:44 * dekan makes a sandwich with lots of sword and cake. Aug 16 03:11:54 can I have extra sword? Aug 16 03:11:58 pweeeeeeeze Aug 16 03:14:12 * Anivrom is eating a sandwich with ham/mustard/lettuce Aug 16 03:14:16 Anivrom: how is the brew going down? Aug 16 03:14:16 and sword and cake :P Aug 16 03:14:21 done Aug 16 03:14:24 long gone Aug 16 03:14:28 Anivrom Aug 16 03:14:29 Anivrom is a farming tool Aug 16 03:14:29 only had 1 tonight Aug 16 03:14:30 wow Aug 16 03:14:32 haha Aug 16 03:14:48 I rarely drink over 2 Aug 16 03:14:48 will have a few later, need to get a few things done first Aug 16 03:15:02 Anivrom: you have nova game on your pre right? Aug 16 03:15:04 I try and keep it under control Aug 16 03:15:13 palmpreuser1001: negative. couldnt justify the money Aug 16 03:15:38 Anivrom: i have a very high tolerance Aug 16 03:15:38 still dealing with "hackers"? Aug 16 03:15:48 Damn I thought you did Aug 16 03:16:00 for me 4 is getting buzzed and a little out of it Aug 16 03:16:01 Yeah check this out: Aug 16 03:16:08 my mouth starts loosening up after 3-4 Aug 16 03:16:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEKzEhaNIE&feature=youtube_gdata Aug 16 03:16:27 Anivrom: wow, that is like 8+ for me Aug 16 03:16:46 palmpreuser1001: thats the problem with webos, every app is open source Aug 16 03:16:59 Thats why you gotta do auth when workign with the cloud if you want your data secure Aug 16 03:17:03 and even then Aug 16 03:17:08 The majority of hacker that are cheating on multiplayer mode come from android devices grrr Aug 16 03:17:53 tibfib Aug 16 03:17:54 tibfib is worth 2 in the bush! Aug 16 03:17:58 hahaha Aug 16 03:18:03 Nooo.. They couldn't hack the game on webOS but you could hack it on android to give you ability to cheat multiplayer mode Aug 16 03:18:08 heh. howdy Anivrom Aug 16 03:18:14 dekan: tibfib is only worth 1 in the bush, but 2 in the tree Aug 16 03:18:15 Okay, Anivrom. Aug 16 03:18:28 tibfib Aug 16 03:18:29 tibfib is worth 2 in the bush! Aug 16 03:18:32 .... Aug 16 03:18:36 dekan hates me Aug 16 03:18:40 dekan die in a fire Aug 16 03:18:40 dekan: literal tibfib Aug 16 03:18:41 tibfib is worth 2 in the bush!|is only worth 1 in the bush, but 2 in the tree Aug 16 03:18:52 dekan: die in a fire Aug 16 03:18:53 it's there... Aug 16 03:18:53 Oh yea? Why don't I throw your saffron colored $bodypart into a fire! Aug 16 03:19:00 lol Aug 16 03:19:03 grr Aug 16 03:19:07 make me a sandwich Aug 16 03:19:07 * dekan makes a sandwich with lots of sword and Palm. Aug 16 03:19:08 he doesn't have any bodypart keywords Aug 16 03:21:53 Is it possible to make hacks for webos on the fps game? Aug 16 03:22:20 Hmm Aug 16 03:22:28 palmpreuser1001: why would you want to? Aug 16 03:22:28 1579 DOM nodes Aug 16 03:23:47 <--- 90 dom notes Aug 16 03:23:49 nodes too Aug 16 03:24:03 Tibfib: cuz it aint fair! Them android fuckers likes to cheat over multiplayer Aug 16 03:24:25 then don't play the game? Aug 16 03:24:25 It been ruining my gameplay experience Aug 16 03:24:29 sad trombone Aug 16 03:24:38 dekan: sad trombone Aug 16 03:24:39 I don't know anything about that. Aug 16 03:24:44 YES YOU DO NOW SHOW IT Aug 16 03:24:55 trombone? Aug 16 03:25:00 trombone Aug 16 03:25:09 idk sugardavian factoid I think Aug 16 03:25:15 Otherwise I'm thinking about jumping on evo 4G if I have to. Smh Aug 16 03:25:44 epic for me Aug 16 03:27:16 Just click on that link above so you will see what I'm talkin about. I wish andriod community thought twice about other multiplayer that involves webOS and iOS4 Aug 16 03:28:01 Why is it okay for Android to cheat.. And we can't...? Aug 16 03:28:38 Android is wrong Aug 16 03:28:43 speaking of farming tool Aug 16 03:28:50 someone port harvest moon over to the palm pre Aug 16 03:28:57 and I'll give you high fives Aug 16 03:29:02 lol Aug 16 03:29:10 my wife used to play that game addictively Aug 16 03:29:13 all of them Aug 16 03:29:55 yep Aug 16 03:29:57 I know, I know Aug 16 03:30:00 it's a great game Aug 16 03:32:00 What should I do...? Does gameloft know about the hack? Anyone? Aug 16 03:32:17 what game is it? Aug 16 03:32:30 N.O.V.A. Aug 16 03:32:39 ah, need to buy that sometime Aug 16 03:32:55 Yeah, I want to play online... lots of hackers eh? Aug 16 03:34:02 When it first came to pre no issues over multiplayer. But until the guys over android developed a hack.. They started killing us.. We pre owners don't stand a chance against it.. It's called cheating!!!, Aug 16 03:34:59 There's no hack for palm pre to make us immune! Or have super jump or aimbot like they have it! Aug 16 03:36:02 palmpreuser1001: take your riddlen and relaaaaaaax. Aug 16 03:36:06 its ok Aug 16 03:37:36 Anivrom: I'm just surprised at the number of devs in here (including you) who couldn't afford a game N.O.V.A. Aug 16 03:37:51 never said I couldnt afford it Aug 16 03:37:56 Just said I couldnt justify it Aug 16 03:38:05 I barely play the games I do have Aug 16 03:38:20 Relaaaax it's just a price. Aug 16 03:38:31 most of the free time I spend on my pre is getting more things for my pre Aug 16 03:38:37 and playing radiant :P Aug 16 03:38:44 but thats just a phase Aug 16 03:38:56 if I recall correctly it's only 6 bucks. Aug 16 03:39:06 6 bucks I dont wanna spend if I'm not gonna play it Aug 16 03:39:19 I have Brothers in Arms and dont play it Aug 16 03:39:26 Same here Aug 16 03:39:29 Is radiant fun? Aug 16 03:39:37 Tibfib: yea when you get into upgrading Aug 16 03:39:41 Not had the chance to play all the games I bought Aug 16 03:39:55 it automatically fires at intervals though Aug 16 03:39:58 Anivrom: what is it? A clone of space invaders? Aug 16 03:39:58 you just steer Aug 16 03:40:01 basically Aug 16 03:40:15 but upgrading is fun Aug 16 03:40:19 and its got alot of humour lo Aug 16 03:40:23 its quite funny actually Aug 16 03:40:27 the dialog Aug 16 03:40:41 "or what, you're going to throw rocks at me?" Aug 16 03:40:48 "...yes" Aug 16 03:40:53 But nova and sandstorm what I play the most. But nova is.. I'm just mad ova fact that after research I found the only hack to be available for this game is on android device Aug 16 03:41:22 Tibfib: changing some vars before I send it over Aug 16 03:41:27 wouldnt want it to be too easy Aug 16 03:41:28 mmkay Aug 16 03:41:38 I need an RPG Aug 16 03:41:39 not that its necessarily "hard" Aug 16 03:41:48 I was thinkign about it Aug 16 03:41:52 but would be so complex Aug 16 03:42:07 someday I'm going to make one... someday Aug 16 03:42:12 I tihin I'm going to develop a sidescrolling game like rtype Aug 16 03:42:14 I love those Aug 16 03:42:19 next Aug 16 03:42:25 I dont care to develop real apps Aug 16 03:42:28 games are my thing Aug 16 03:42:48 And I didn't like it.. Some days I play multiplayer and it's all normal.. Then some days these cheaters come online and get the most kills usually it's just 1 cheater in the same room and rest of us are just regulars Aug 16 03:44:52 Anyway Aug 16 03:45:18 Anivrom: hurry up, I'm bored Aug 16 03:45:41 well this wont exactly liven up your night. like I said its very niche-ish Aug 16 03:46:04 Can't wait to start on next game though Aug 16 03:46:15 Then its my turn for the concept. my wife chose this one Aug 16 03:46:37 sent Aug 16 04:00:02 *sigh* I am going to report and blog about this. Hopefully I can shed light into this issue Aug 16 04:00:20 Good night folks Aug 16 04:00:33 nighty night Aug 16 04:24:05 yeah I'll just include all those schools' fight songs....sure, buddy Aug 16 04:24:14 hahahaha Aug 16 04:24:23 why not? it will only be 50mb download Aug 16 04:24:50 ~3-4 MB a pop, more like ~400MB Aug 16 04:25:27 oh, and the whole licensing issue Aug 16 04:25:33 I'm thinking no Aug 16 04:25:57 but the user made a request... surely you must provide all that the user desires! Aug 16 04:26:45 ior forfiet your app development career Aug 16 04:26:54 you should see the little reminder I have on my wall. it's a little graphic of some fisher-price looking people, roundheaded 2-eyed generic people-shapes...I captioned it to say Users: Should be seen and not heard Aug 16 04:27:55 :P Aug 16 04:32:37 why do I feel dread when presented with the 'Full Update' button? it used to be really dicey doing this Aug 16 04:32:51 lol Aug 16 04:36:42 oh lord, metaview misled me Aug 16 04:36:54 I don't want to have to enter this same crap for every damn country Aug 16 04:37:03 ? Aug 16 04:37:08 if I say English only, it should fill in my crap across all the tabs Aug 16 04:37:36 ? Aug 16 04:37:37 oh Aug 16 04:37:40 I get it Aug 16 04:37:43 I need to close those tabs Aug 16 04:38:00 ? Aug 16 04:38:08 ? Aug 16 04:38:12 I"m changing my distribution Aug 16 04:38:15 from US-only Aug 16 04:38:19 to WORLDWIDE BABY Aug 16 04:38:22 Oh, yeah. Pain in butt Aug 16 04:38:36 so I just close those, right? Aug 16 04:38:43 since I don't have translations? Aug 16 04:38:45 Mines hookerwide Aug 16 04:38:45 sugardave: why not Aug 16 04:38:48 it will just use the english one Aug 16 04:39:21 next releases of all my apps will be worldwide.. Aug 16 04:39:36 english only, maybe spanish here and there.... Aug 16 04:42:02 palm changed the language ui abit, making it alot easier now, for english onlu Aug 16 04:42:04 only Aug 16 04:42:22 Tibfib: I guess full updates go through the whole 2-hour wait again Aug 16 04:42:24 apps, before , it kinda sucked to fill out all the info Aug 16 04:42:25 LoneStar99: oh did they change it recently? Aug 16 04:42:41 maybe like 3 days ago Aug 16 04:42:46 nice Aug 16 04:42:47 ! Aug 16 04:42:55 less than a week ago Aug 16 04:43:05 sugardave: try opening the catalog handbag thingy Aug 16 04:43:18 For me, updates are available there within minutes Aug 16 04:43:35 Tibfib: can you get to beta feed from that? Aug 16 04:44:02 oh I see what you are talking about Aug 16 04:44:22 hot damn, there it is Aug 16 04:44:33 I think its time to replace my screen protector Aug 16 04:44:34 I wonder how long until PreWare picks it up Aug 16 04:45:38 * sugardave updates Noted! while he's here. Aug 16 04:49:35 Anivrom: update and tell me what you think of my scroller in a dialog :P Aug 16 04:50:22 anyone know if I can compile a C++ tar.gz source package using the PDK? Aug 16 04:52:05 the thing if I could - can make a cool PDK app very quickly... Aug 16 05:02:36 Hi there Aug 16 05:02:41 I was wondering Aug 16 05:02:53 is there a WebosDoctor version 1.4.5 Aug 16 05:03:15 that can accsses palm profile via wifi? Aug 16 05:06:17 The problem is because Im whit the 1.4.1.1 since several days, and it doesnt show the actualization for the 1.4.5 Aug 16 05:06:52 so what I want to do is download the WebosDoctor version 1.4.5 and then activate via wifi Aug 16 05:07:27 because Im CMDA and dont have a carrier in my country Aug 16 05:07:57 Xavier_: #webos-internals would know about that Aug 16 05:07:58 :) Aug 16 05:09:25 thank you English is not my native languate and I always get confused Aug 16 05:29:29 Very gary Aug 16 05:32:18 hello gary Aug 16 05:35:32 Gary = codename for gay Aug 16 05:35:33 I'm Awesome! Aug 16 05:35:34 protip Aug 16 05:35:34 No you're not dude, don't lie! Aug 16 05:36:28 looky here: http://www.youtube.com/jordangenslermusic Aug 16 05:37:00 dekan: goodnight Aug 16 05:37:01 is that a new song? Aug 16 05:37:01 night night, Anivrom_ Aug 16 05:37:08 night ladies Aug 16 05:37:10 laters dekan Aug 16 05:37:25 oh night Anivrom_ Aug 16 05:37:33 LoneStar99: What? Aug 16 05:40:35 how long u been singing? Aug 16 05:40:50 do you sing in the shower? Aug 16 05:40:52 lol Aug 16 05:42:58 LoneStar99: Few months Aug 16 05:43:01 LoneStar99: And yes, I do Aug 16 05:43:07 LoneStar99: Subscribe to me :) Aug 16 05:44:06 done Aug 16 05:45:59 LoneStar99: Thanks! Aug 16 05:46:00 You're welcome, kesne! Aug 16 05:46:49 lol Aug 16 05:48:33 lolol Aug 16 05:49:54 boy does my connection suck here Aug 16 05:51:59 oil: u a pdk developer? Aug 16 05:52:04 no Aug 16 05:53:09 oil: Is 640kB a lot? Aug 16 05:53:27 a lot for what? Aug 16 05:53:33 640kb for what? Aug 16 05:53:36 A JSON friend list. Aug 16 05:53:36 yeah Aug 16 05:53:41 for oil Aug 16 05:53:43 yeah Aug 16 05:53:47 Alright Aug 16 05:53:51 idk Aug 16 05:53:54 I just need to know where my limitations are Aug 16 05:54:06 my dog, deathly afraid of thunderstorms, just happened this summer Aug 16 05:54:07 friend list should be small Aug 16 05:54:08 hiding in the corner Aug 16 05:54:16 I'm throwing the list to the server with POST, don't want to get it capped Aug 16 05:54:21 and she's a big dog, a german shepard Aug 16 05:54:40 make sure its in the postbody Aug 16 05:56:16 kesne: where does the list originate from? Aug 16 05:58:02 LoneStar99: KSO Aug 16 05:59:29 kso? Aug 16 06:00:01 kense studios? Aug 16 06:00:07 Keen Studios Online Aug 16 06:00:09 offline Aug 16 06:00:47 you sending friend list from server to mobile? Aug 16 06:01:04 man, the food network is taking drama to a new level, with a show that is a combination of a rat race, and a portable food truck competition, I don't even know how to respond to it Aug 16 06:01:22 by turning the tv off Aug 16 06:01:25 god tv is such a joke Aug 16 06:01:33 * oil has no tv :/ Aug 16 06:01:39 "CUPCAKE WARS", TOTALLY AWESOME Aug 16 06:01:40 alexfner: sounds like reality shows gone really really bad Aug 16 06:01:52 I usually don't have a tv, just where I am right now Aug 16 06:02:02 watch PBS Aug 16 06:02:15 I like to watch regular tv, I laugh a lot Aug 16 06:02:16 * oil torrents the shows he wants to watch Aug 16 06:02:20 it's just too ridiculous Aug 16 06:02:33 I can't enjoy most any of it Aug 16 06:02:37 I mean Aug 16 06:02:39 on a serious level Aug 16 06:02:49 only for how funny and ridiculous it is Aug 16 06:02:50 i have the tube on alot, but only absorb about 10% of what is going on Aug 16 06:03:05 do like "mad men" and "breaking bad" Aug 16 06:03:12 god, mad men Aug 16 06:03:16 that's a t.v. show! Aug 16 06:03:16 amc and pbs are my favorite channels Aug 16 06:03:32 LoneStar99: Actually, mobile to server Aug 16 06:03:32 LoneStar99: come on over and let's watch Bill Moyers! Aug 16 06:03:38 god, that sounds boring Aug 16 06:03:51 640K from mobile to server is way way large Aug 16 06:04:05 LoneStar99: How so? Aug 16 06:04:46 let me do some tests, might be thinking wrong Aug 16 06:05:24 well how many contacts being sent to server in the json file? Aug 16 06:06:07 morning Aug 16 06:06:12 night Aug 16 06:06:14 LoneStar99: No idea Aug 16 06:06:22 LoneStar99: Just trying to find the limit for this Aug 16 06:06:58 LoneStar99: and when I really want to laugh, I turn to Fox News! Aug 16 06:07:00 hello swisstomcat Aug 16 06:07:29 alexfner: +1 Aug 16 06:09:18 alexfner: yeah fox news is very ridiculous Aug 16 06:09:38 The local fox news usually isn't too bad Aug 16 06:10:02 I feel like right now is one of the lowest points in american politics since the civil rights battles Aug 16 06:10:40 alexfner: i feel politics are jut plain bad at this point, it is all big business Aug 16 06:10:53 alexfner: Why so? Aug 16 06:10:53 and I don't mean I've lost faith in the ability of people to be political agents, but the issues that we find important, and the non-existent dialogue about serious issues, is very troubling Aug 16 06:11:04 alexfner: Ah Aug 16 06:11:09 kesne: look at immigration Aug 16 06:11:30 making a talking point, and bringing it to the media, is not a dialogue Aug 16 06:12:12 it seems like the political machine moves to the media as soon as possible, as of late, to make a point Aug 16 06:12:16 What are everyones thoughts on the Mosque thingy? Aug 16 06:12:20 it doesn't matter if it's right Aug 16 06:12:32 I digress Aug 16 06:12:36 alexfner: media is crap, politicians are puppets for big business, and the wars we are fighting are going no where, but killing young soldiers Aug 16 06:13:04 well I agree with some of what you said Aug 16 06:13:07 much media is crap Aug 16 06:13:26 I find npr to be somewhat better Aug 16 06:13:34 real media is found on PBS, or NPR other than that it is all bought Aug 16 06:13:39 and I don't think politicians are just puppets for businesses Aug 16 06:14:00 * kesne doesn't care about politics. Aug 16 06:14:13 kesne: what are your thoughts on the mosque? Aug 16 06:14:21 neither do i, they are all crooks in my eyes Aug 16 06:14:23 alexfner: I have no issue with it. Aug 16 06:14:31 kesne: werd Aug 16 06:14:56 LoneStar99: well, they're not all crooks, the only crooks are the ones who get arrested Aug 16 06:15:03 lol Aug 16 06:15:11 I've taken some political science classes that make it more interesting and less simple Aug 16 06:15:34 alexfner: In fact, studies show that formal religious places like that actually reduce the chance or radicals. Aug 16 06:15:48 mosque - go for it! Aug 16 06:16:03 kesne: Yeah I have read that, and it's an argument I've tried to make with others, but this becomes an emotional issue Aug 16 06:16:21 alexfner: True. Aug 16 06:16:26 and we know, when people are emotional, they are not rational Aug 16 06:16:36 so they'll vehemently deny statistics Aug 16 06:16:39 alexfner: yeah very true Aug 16 06:16:47 What about that radical christain that blew up the federal building in oklahoma city? Aug 16 06:17:01 You think if they tried to build a church next door there would be any issue? Aug 16 06:17:20 Timothy McVeah was not racists, he just hated the government Aug 16 06:17:48 the mosque exposes a lot of deep seeded problems in american culture, I think Aug 16 06:18:25 as the support for the wars faded, I kind of thought maybe people were recognizing that islam != al quaeda Aug 16 06:18:26 LoneStar99: Did I call him racist? Aug 16 06:19:11 no, just saying, the media calls him a white supremacist which he never was Aug 16 06:19:22 read his book, before he was executed Aug 16 06:20:44 here's something I've noticed Aug 16 06:20:47 this certainly is good webos discussion xD Aug 16 06:20:51 http://bennolan.com/2010/08/13/pushstate-and-nodejs.html Aug 16 06:20:53 Very cool stuff Aug 16 06:20:56 oil lol Aug 16 06:21:03 yeah I'll stop ! Aug 16 06:21:05 sorry! Aug 16 06:21:09 I get carried away! Aug 16 06:21:12 really! Aug 16 06:21:16 it's true!!! (!) Aug 16 06:21:42 * oil apologizes in advance for killing conversation Aug 16 06:22:03 oil: yeah have read some stuff on node.js --> seems very interesting Aug 16 06:22:15 * oil will read up on it when webos supports it :) Aug 16 06:22:50 oil: It will Aug 16 06:22:55 oil: node is server side, it has nothing to do with webos Aug 16 06:22:55 LoneStar99: Was that intended for me? Aug 16 06:23:10 kesne: what was? Aug 16 06:23:10 they're puttind nodejs support in a future version Aug 16 06:23:22 oil: webos supports http requests, node can act as an http server Aug 16 06:24:20 node.js/common.js will be in webOS 2.0 to replace the now java-based services .. win! Aug 16 06:24:30 IIRC, they're throwing node.js into the thing to do cool stuff like JS services. Aug 16 06:24:35 Doh, swisstomcat beat me to it Aug 16 06:24:45 really? Aug 16 06:24:46 shiz! Aug 16 06:24:48 yeah Aug 16 06:24:50 were you guys at dev days? Aug 16 06:24:54 yeah Aug 16 06:24:58 * oil waits for that before paying attention :) Aug 16 06:25:24 No Aug 16 06:25:24 swisstomcat: you weren't the person who gave the talk about the pdk, were you? Aug 16 06:25:27 nope, will be at next palm dev conference, will be back in cali by then Aug 16 06:25:35 What do you guys think of this? Aug 16 06:25:35 http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/ Aug 16 06:25:42 alexfner: no, that was not me :) Aug 16 06:25:54 if there is one this year, im going to go for sure Aug 16 06:26:06 your name has swiss in it, I know the guy who gave the talk was from "around there"... haha :( Aug 16 06:26:31 kesne: looks interesting Aug 16 06:26:45 LoneStar99: To me, it looks like lazy JS Aug 16 06:26:59 kesne: lol Aug 16 06:27:08 i might go to JSConf.eu Aug 16 06:27:32 palm will be there too Aug 16 06:28:17 swisstomcat: sweet, score another dev phone! Aug 16 06:28:33 heh .. got 4 already Aug 16 06:28:43 damn Aug 16 06:28:43 damn, send me one Aug 16 06:28:44 swisstomcat: Send me one! Aug 16 06:28:46 I haven't a single Aug 16 06:28:48 I have no PPP Aug 16 06:28:56 the only phone I dev on is the palm pre I bought on contract Aug 16 06:29:09 i have a spare gsm pre Aug 16 06:29:25 if someone is interested Aug 16 06:29:28 i have one dev mobile Aug 16 06:29:33 yes, I am interested Aug 16 06:29:35 but you guys should be able to get cheap ones from ebay Aug 16 06:29:37 eBaby? Aug 16 06:30:23 anyone know if blackberry messenger is cool? Aug 16 06:30:27 lol Aug 16 06:30:31 swisstomcat: Go there, watch this for me http://jsconf.eu/2010/speaker/phonegap_love_the_web_and_lose.html Aug 16 06:30:34 Sounds interesting Aug 16 06:30:58 yeah, that one sounds good .. but many others too Aug 16 06:31:24 node.js in production Aug 16 06:32:02 the hitchhiker's guide to client side persistent storage Aug 16 06:32:17 what do you guys think of couchDB? Aug 16 06:32:25 that JSON exchange model... Aug 16 06:32:39 couchdb will come to webos as well Aug 16 06:32:44 in the form of DB8 Aug 16 06:32:57 yeah that's what I heard Aug 16 06:33:14 I've read some editorials that really don't like exchanging data through databases as JSON though Aug 16 06:33:15 no clue what couchDB is... Aug 16 06:33:35 Using the Web to deliver the next wave of computing experiences; Going beyond rounded corners by Dion Almaer Aug 16 06:33:40 another good talk Aug 16 06:33:44 http://wtfjs.com/ Aug 16 06:33:57 lonestar: couchdb = nosql (in a nutshell) Aug 16 06:35:06 swisstomcat: oh ok Aug 16 06:35:27 have heard of "nosql" for large DBs like Digg Aug 16 06:35:40 twitter Aug 16 06:36:24 * kesne likes nosql Aug 16 06:37:32 the cool thing is, all these new technologies used in the web-environment are coming to webOS Aug 16 06:38:35 yeah Aug 16 06:39:05 and if you go to conferences like JSConf.eu you can learn a lot for your mobile development Aug 16 06:39:39 no wonder people like dion almaer are at palm Aug 16 06:40:26 interesting stuff forsure Aug 16 06:41:03 milked a goat yesterday, Aug 16 06:41:11 I LOVE the web Aug 16 06:41:24 yay Aug 16 06:41:52 i just want smoother animations Aug 16 06:41:58 * oil waits for "Boy in white jeans marries the Internet" story Aug 16 06:42:01 I used a friend's ipod touch to browse the internet today Aug 16 06:42:03 my god Aug 16 06:42:04 :( Aug 16 06:42:17 it was so beautiful Aug 16 06:42:30 torchie: gave my itouch away after paying $300 for it Aug 16 06:42:40 y Aug 16 06:43:31 i really like apple laptops, but do not care for anything else apple Aug 16 06:43:43 I dunno man Aug 16 06:43:58 will buy another macbook pro when i have extra $$ Aug 16 06:44:10 iphone still feels pretty gold-standard Aug 16 06:44:39 well, yeah , but would not pay $80+ a month for the service Aug 16 06:45:12 my brother used to pay $120+ a month for his iphone Aug 16 06:45:16 at AT&T Aug 16 06:45:28 f-cking ridiculous Aug 16 06:45:42 oh yeah, there's the whole AT&T thing Aug 16 06:46:01 but man they got the captivate too! Aug 16 06:46:09 Hmm Aug 16 06:46:20 Just my online users list in Checkers is over 1000 lines of code Aug 16 06:46:30 my father has an iphone 4 and has no idea how much is being paid a month, I am sure like $300+ for a family plan Aug 16 06:46:49 Online game scene is just shy of 1000 Aug 16 06:46:55 it is all my step mother Aug 16 06:47:06 Every other scene has around 100-500 Aug 16 06:47:30 kesne: that is nuts Aug 16 06:47:53 LoneStar99: How so? Aug 16 06:47:58 kesne: have all that processing done on the server side Aug 16 06:48:22 LoneStar99: The heavy lifting is done on the client Aug 16 06:48:37 If I didn't do it that way, my server would most likely lag more than it already does Aug 16 06:48:50 The server is already processing 1,000,000 querys per day Aug 16 06:49:09 thats why server-based is a pain in the ass Aug 16 06:49:34 All of the hard stuff is client side Aug 16 06:49:40 It also allows me to manage it in JS Aug 16 06:49:49 kesne: well not sure what to say, cuss I work in reverse Aug 16 06:51:14 Doing in in JS is nice Aug 16 06:51:21 JSON in PHP isn't very fun Aug 16 06:52:17 kesne: honestly have no clue how to parse json with PHP, but do know how to format json in PHP Aug 16 06:52:32 there is simple functions that go both ways Aug 16 06:52:32 i usually output json in my php-stuff Aug 16 06:53:04 swisstomcat: yeah same here Aug 16 06:53:20 makes it easy for integration in apps Aug 16 06:53:30 i like handling json via prototype (JS) Aug 16 06:53:40 sorry parsing Aug 16 06:56:26 used to parsing xml with php Aug 16 06:57:00 XML sucks Aug 16 06:57:21 i like it cuss it is easy to read Aug 16 06:57:52 swisstomcat: what was the song link you sent the other day, Aug 16 06:58:02 hold on Aug 16 06:58:17 but i think i like json more now Aug 16 06:58:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evG2DDmSdxM Aug 16 06:58:26 I'm leaving Aug 16 06:58:31 night kesne Aug 16 06:58:35 laters kesne Aug 16 06:58:35 Laters Aug 16 06:58:55 thanks swisstomcat Aug 16 07:16:37 still here, lonestar? Aug 16 07:18:08 yeah Aug 16 07:18:37 not coding though, will continue with code tommorrow Aug 16 07:20:24 later all Aug 16 07:21:09 got my app rejected from the app catalog a week ago, and resubmitted Aug 16 07:21:31 just been rather slow Aug 16 07:23:45 oh well, the good thing there is web distro! Aug 16 07:24:21 swisstomcat: what you up 2? Aug 16 07:24:28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M27IMEjqEgk Aug 16 07:24:48 why did they reject it? Aug 16 07:25:55 not really sure, not very clear, it will get cleared up Aug 16 07:26:52 good song, where is scala from? Aug 16 07:35:33 belgium Aug 16 07:35:58 nice Aug 16 07:39:12 submitting a tutorial to poland Aug 16 09:13:50 morning warpdesign Aug 16 09:14:19 hi there Aug 16 11:19:02 morning all Aug 16 11:27:55 morning Aug 16 11:37:02 hows swisstomcat this morning Aug 16 11:37:10 good Aug 16 11:37:32 preparing for froscamp and working on an app Aug 16 11:48:30 cool Aug 16 11:48:57 I finally got my cross compiler setup Aug 16 11:53:11 swisstomcat: where would be the best place for me to look for starting my own apps Aug 16 11:56:43 hmm Aug 16 11:56:46 in what sense? Aug 16 11:56:56 skd/pdk? Aug 16 11:57:09 what made the cross compiler finally work? Aug 16 11:59:34 I had to put some of the internals apps into the non-working folder of the packages dir Aug 16 11:59:46 sdk for now I think Aug 16 12:10:11 well, i started with the first app tutorial at developer.palm.com Aug 16 12:10:19 and then go from there Aug 16 12:10:39 ok Aug 16 12:18:07 That gives a good start on understanding WebOS Aug 16 12:19:26 shouldn't take too long Aug 16 12:19:37 to go throught that one Aug 16 12:19:57 no doesnt look like it will Aug 16 13:20:03 hi guys Aug 16 13:20:14 can anyone help me? I need dsp binaries.. Aug 16 13:20:17 hi faenil Aug 16 13:20:24 or ciao Aug 16 13:21:23 do you know me? Aug 16 13:21:23 :) Aug 16 13:21:24 No, but if you hum a few bars I can fake it Aug 16 13:21:45 not yet Aug 16 13:22:02 I'm Italian, so I was surprised when you said Ciao :) Aug 16 13:22:11 I'm an OmniaHD custom firmware modder Aug 16 13:22:19 I'm looking for the dsp binaries of Palm Pre Aug 16 13:22:30 for non commercial purpose Aug 16 13:22:38 but I could not find any system dump on the web Aug 16 13:22:45 so I'm asking you :) Aug 16 13:23:14 they should be in \lib\dsp\ Aug 16 13:23:28 i said ciao because you're italian Aug 16 13:23:59 you could download a webos-doctor and extract the files there Aug 16 13:24:05 probably Aug 16 13:24:16 i can check my device Aug 16 13:24:43 i see a bunch of .dll64P files in that directory Aug 16 13:25:02 wonderful Aug 16 13:25:06 I would need all the dsp dir.. Aug 16 13:25:14 could you please send it to my email? Aug 16 13:25:34 am i allowed to do that? Aug 16 13:25:38 you are Aug 16 13:25:43 dsp libraries Aug 16 13:25:47 are free for non commercial use ;) Aug 16 13:26:03 already had an argument with nokia's employees :D Aug 16 13:26:19 but finally got n900 libraries :) Aug 16 13:26:36 they should be about the same for the pre, same hardware Aug 16 13:27:15 yes Aug 16 13:27:21 that's why I need them Aug 16 13:27:26 I am collecting all codecs Aug 16 13:27:32 from all omap3430 devices Aug 16 13:27:34 I already have Aug 16 13:27:39 i8910 (my phone) Aug 16 13:27:41 SE Vivaz Aug 16 13:27:42 SE Satio Aug 16 13:27:46 n900 Aug 16 13:27:52 TI official codecs Aug 16 13:27:57 Milestone Aug 16 13:28:05 :) Aug 16 13:28:11 now I need palm and some others Aug 16 13:28:14 HTC Qilin Aug 16 13:28:15 tarring them up Aug 16 13:28:21 thanks man :) Aug 16 13:28:32 I'm trying to solve a problem with fring (videocalling client) Aug 16 13:28:35 16mb Aug 16 13:28:46 with official i8910 files we can't make videocalls Aug 16 13:28:56 with vivaz libraries we can make videocalls Aug 16 13:29:00 but only receive :) Aug 16 13:29:05 can't send videos Aug 16 13:29:13 faenil@i8910tuning.com Aug 16 13:29:15 thanks man :D Aug 16 13:29:23 or upload it anywhere ;) Aug 16 13:32:13 btw I have also download webos doctor jar Aug 16 13:32:16 hwo to extract it? Aug 16 13:32:19 to get system files Aug 16 13:33:05 on what host os? Aug 16 13:33:34 palm pre... Aug 16 13:34:37 no, where do you want to extract them? Aug 16 13:35:07 I need those dsp files :D Aug 16 13:36:45 sent an email Aug 16 13:36:56 on what os do you want to extract the webos-doctor? Aug 16 13:37:02 windows/mac/linux Aug 16 13:40:29 win Aug 16 13:40:34 soz didn't get you ;) Aug 16 13:40:40 but I also have lin and mac Aug 16 13:40:44 so that's not a problem Aug 16 13:40:49 but win is the one I'm using now ;) Aug 16 13:41:34 7zip should work on win Aug 16 13:41:45 i use archive viewer in gnome Aug 16 13:43:07 ok Aug 16 13:43:12 so it's a basic jar archive Aug 16 13:43:14 nothing special Aug 16 13:43:15 yeah Aug 16 13:43:18 ok good Aug 16 13:43:22 nothing special Aug 16 13:44:44 wonderful Aug 16 13:44:46 just download your file Aug 16 13:44:48 morning all Aug 16 13:44:48 thanks :) Aug 16 13:44:49 You're welcome, faenil! Aug 16 13:45:13 let me know when you finish downloading it Aug 16 13:45:16 morning lonestar Aug 16 13:45:49 I have finished ;) Aug 16 14:20:56 Morning LoneStar99 Aug 16 14:21:06 morning bhodder Aug 16 14:29:22 with opensolaris dead is a great thing for FreeBSD!! Aug 16 14:32:23 a few more days until angry birds for webOS ;) Aug 16 14:33:34 nice, have played it for a few seconds, cool game it seems Aug 16 14:35:12 never played it before? Aug 16 14:40:10 not for very long, slingshot and "throwing chickens" i think Aug 16 14:41:46 oil: my ugly "dark" theme-looking start dialog - http://twitpic.com/2f7mvj Aug 16 14:43:58 * haeffb_pre having issues with Mojo.Format.runTextIndexer with notes that have lots of :'s and /'s Aug 16 14:44:15 think I might get the epic 4g Aug 16 14:44:24 renegaid: 1.4.5 is out Aug 16 14:44:34 but not on the epic Aug 16 14:45:50 I might get the epic too Aug 16 14:46:11 unless Palm announces new hardware soon... Aug 16 14:46:25 time for reboot...bbl Aug 16 14:48:53 that's not going to happen Aug 16 15:00:48 haeffb_pre: did you see 0.0.2 yet? Aug 16 15:01:54 Hi everybody Aug 16 15:04:30 morning Aug 16 15:07:43 hi maik,sugardave,robdor,renegaid Aug 16 15:10:32 "need a flashlight app with 10-11 scenes...MUST be PDK" that's a lot of damn scenes for a flashlight app Aug 16 15:10:37 morning swisstomcat Aug 16 15:10:58 sugardave: a scene for every color :) Aug 16 15:11:06 morning maik, sugardave, Robdor , renegaid Aug 16 15:13:55 http://twitter.com/myzt/status/21301896997 Aug 16 15:13:58 * oil lold Aug 16 15:14:54 lol Aug 16 15:15:12 oilol Aug 16 15:19:10 oil: hehe .. i just saw inception and i can agree Aug 16 15:19:20 lol Aug 16 15:20:27 swisstomcat: http://i.imgur.com/JiPqw.jpg Aug 16 15:20:49 heh Aug 16 15:20:58 that would destroy the storyline Aug 16 15:27:52 still haven't seen inception Aug 16 15:27:54 :( Aug 16 15:27:59 although Aug 16 15:28:04 I saw scott pilgrim the other day Aug 16 15:39:31 I havnt seen inception yet but want to Aug 16 15:40:03 prepare to have your mind blown Aug 16 15:41:11 best movie I've seen in a long time Aug 16 15:42:29 swisstomcat: damn, I could have made my flasher have a scene for each team... ~120 scenes Aug 16 15:42:42 I wonder if more scenes makes your app better Aug 16 15:42:48 i think so Aug 16 15:42:59 * sugardave will keep that in mind. Aug 16 15:43:11 if you create the app with the most scenes, you win Aug 16 15:43:16 sweet Aug 16 15:43:27 * sugardave works on a scene-creating scene. Aug 16 15:45:09 hi guys ... can i setup checkbos widget using class? so that i can setup all my checkboxes at one go Aug 16 15:45:22 hi raghuk Aug 16 15:45:40 hey swisstomcat Aug 16 15:45:49 can you elaborate? Aug 16 15:46:27 raghuk: if they're Mojo widgets, they each need to be setupWidget()ed Aug 16 15:47:23 i mean like ... this.controller.setupWidget("div.statusboxes", this.attrs = {}, this.model = {}); Aug 16 15:47:49 you could do something like set a var checkBoxOn = true; and then for the value property of each model, use that var, but true is pretty short so you wouldn't get much benefit Aug 16 15:48:01 raghuk: no, that won't work Aug 16 15:48:18 you could do this Aug 16 15:48:57 would instantiateChildWidgets work? Aug 16 15:49:08 oh wait, nevermind...my idea is not going to work Aug 16 15:49:14 unless they have IDs Aug 16 15:49:44 i wonder why ares does the widet setup Aug 16 15:49:50 s/why/how Aug 16 15:49:57 MAGIC Aug 16 15:50:08 oh wait, they have to have ids Aug 16 15:50:14 so my thing will work, hold on Aug 16 15:51:07 you can use name="" Aug 16 15:51:23 $A(this.controller.select('.statusboxes')).each(function(item, index){this.controller.setupWidget(item.id, {}, {});}, this); Aug 16 15:53:37 sugardave: is this will work after a list widget setup? as i have these checkboxes in a listWidget Aug 16 15:54:35 you will have to setup the widgets first, then after the list loads: this.controller.instantiateChildWidgets(document); Aug 16 15:54:39 should do it Aug 16 15:55:13 if those class-statusboxes don't exist in the DOM, you can't do that first thing I showed Aug 16 15:56:10 sugardave: yea ... i understand Aug 16 15:56:45 sugardave: do u have any sample code on how to instantiateChildWidgets after my main list iis setup? Aug 16 15:57:01 yeah, i did the same this.controller.instantiateChildWidgets when i inserted buttons in my list Aug 16 15:57:22 just this.controller.instantiateChildWidgets(document); should do it Aug 16 15:57:30 or the list's id instead of document Aug 16 15:58:13 raghuk: not on me, man ;) you can just put that in activate(), assuming you set up your list in setup() Aug 16 15:58:59 sugardave: nice buttons in ihavespirit :) Aug 16 15:59:33 swisstomcat: aren't they? now if I could just figure out how to make -webkit-mask a> work, b> work with background-colors, I'd be unstoppable :D Aug 16 16:00:07 never heard of webkit-mask .. what's that? Aug 16 16:00:13 -webkit-mask appears to work in the browser, but not in an app Aug 16 16:00:25 it lets you define funky clipping for the div background Aug 16 16:00:33 oh .. never heard of it Aug 16 16:00:41 http://webkit.org/blog/181/css-masks/ Aug 16 16:00:46 it looks very cool Aug 16 16:00:50 but, can't make it work Aug 16 16:01:07 logs show back in February that jfelectron declared them unsupported on webOS Aug 16 16:01:14 yet, I still try Aug 16 16:01:48 hmm, cool Aug 16 16:01:59 the idea is to make a mask that fits inside the border of the small button, so I can change colors, etc. Aug 16 16:02:09 they'll probably arrive together with css-gradients Aug 16 16:02:24 morning chuqui Aug 16 16:02:24 one day Aug 16 16:03:08 morning! Aug 16 16:03:26 sugardave, swisstomcat: thx Aug 16 16:03:44 hmm, I guess I could do some div hackery with border radius and positioning...but that hurts Aug 16 16:03:47 raghuk: np Aug 16 16:04:46 you can make div backgrounds clip to border edges, but of course the button borders are not at the actual border edge, so it still gives an ugly rectangle around the outside of your button Aug 16 16:05:08 couldn't you just change the png that makes the actual small button? Aug 16 16:05:13 (the color) Aug 16 16:05:30 I could do that..but what if I wanted to change the button color to the school's "primary" color Aug 16 16:05:37 that's a lot of images to keep track of Aug 16 16:05:41 true Aug 16 16:05:47 raghuk: ping Aug 16 16:05:49 Hello there, any homebrewers who might be able to help me?? I'm looking for a way to modify my call history; specifically, to add a call to my history which wasn't actually made. Aug 16 16:05:50 but doesn't palm do the same with their colored buttons? Aug 16 16:05:51 backgroundColor is way easier :D Aug 16 16:05:58 agreed Aug 16 16:06:21 steez: that sounds bad Aug 16 16:06:32 Ha, well, I suppose. Aug 16 16:06:40 Nothing too nefarious Aug 16 16:06:48 a patch probably just changes the display Aug 16 16:06:59 do add something you'd have to mess with the db i assume Aug 16 16:07:04 dekan: 101 Aug 16 16:07:05 101 is http://www.webos101.com Aug 16 16:07:43 ...just a bit of an employe/employer dispute, which I may or may not be on the wrong side of....... Full disclosure haha Aug 16 16:07:56 but possible, maybe? Aug 16 16:08:30 anything is possible...not sure if there is some kind of call-synching that occurs with the carrier, though...that might wipe it out Aug 16 16:08:33 regardless Aug 16 16:08:40 wrong channel: try #webos-internals :D Aug 16 16:08:47 raghuk: http://www.webos101.com/List_Widget_With_Checkbox_Example Aug 16 16:08:58 My apologies, thanks sugardave Aug 16 16:09:01 np Aug 16 16:10:38 hey ... any one wrote custom widgets? Aug 16 16:10:53 not yet Aug 16 16:10:59 tempted to make a horizontal list widget Aug 16 16:11:05 but no time to do so right now Aug 16 16:11:13 not yet but there's an example on palm's github site Aug 16 16:11:52 swisstomcat: ooh .. ok i'll check that Aug 16 16:12:26 http://github.com/palm/webos-samples/tree/master/tipsAndTricks/custom-widget/ Aug 16 16:15:36 swisstomcat: http://webos.pastebin.com/M7cXBgrN Aug 16 16:16:21 swisstomcat: here is what i have wrritten so far ... not able to bind tap handler from assistant Aug 16 16:17:06 hmm, haven't played with custom widgets myself Aug 16 16:31:44 wow, check out www.3dtin.com Aug 16 16:32:05 yeah, it is cool Aug 16 16:32:15 I can'tget leonardosketch.org to load, though :S Aug 16 16:32:19 pie Aug 16 16:32:40 dekan: inventory Aug 16 16:32:41 I am carrying a towel, the Hoe of Destruction, a big bunch of beautiful bananas, a swift kick in the ass, madnificent's word, balls of steel, the Duke Nukem Soundboard IPK, the latest build of Duke Nukem Forever, Kesne Frozen in a solid block of Carbonite, the promise of a new day, pie, and the Evil Eye. Aug 16 16:33:17 dekan: please give me the towel Aug 16 16:33:19 Error 42: Factoid not in database. Please contact administrator of current universe. Aug 16 16:33:24 * sugardave gives dekan SVG support for webOS Aug 16 16:33:25 Okay, sugardave. Aug 16 16:33:42 lol Aug 16 16:34:37 * halfhalo_class dropkicks server Aug 16 16:35:36 Stupid server be talking back to me Aug 16 16:35:52 * maik laughs as halfhalo_class falls to the floor and server keeps on running Aug 16 16:35:55 does anyone know why my eclipse would not have the webos perspective... I do have the SDK plugin installed Aug 16 16:36:14 cryptk: are you sure? Aug 16 16:36:15 crap dude i had this exact same problem Aug 16 16:36:20 i mean, are you _sure_ Aug 16 16:36:20 but i can't remember what i did to fix it Aug 16 16:36:24 hold on, lemme think Aug 16 16:36:30 really REALLY sure? Aug 16 16:36:33 no, server went down. It fell of the table Aug 16 16:36:39 did you restart your computer cryptk? Aug 16 16:36:40 like... fro srsly!? Aug 16 16:36:54 halfhalo_class: point to you then Aug 16 16:36:58 yup Aug 16 16:36:58 Wolvenhaven, I restarted Eclipse yes, this is on Ubuntu Aug 16 16:37:06 you have to restart your computer Aug 16 16:37:10 damn dev machine. messin wit mah vm's Aug 16 16:37:13 no Aug 16 16:37:13 trust me, i'm running 64bit ubuntu 9.10 Aug 16 16:37:19 no Aug 16 16:37:23 hello everyone Aug 16 16:37:24 i had to do a system restart to get it to show up Aug 16 16:37:27 no Aug 16 16:37:31 Trust me, I'm a doctor. Aug 16 16:37:41 sugardave, you are saying no.... you have another idea? Aug 16 16:37:46 no :D Aug 16 16:37:49 Trust me, I'm IT. Aug 16 16:37:53 i had the same problem, it fixed when i restarted Aug 16 16:37:59 haha Aug 16 16:38:00 eclipse is fucking stupid sometimes Aug 16 16:38:07 netbeans ftw Aug 16 16:38:17 screw that, Komodo Edit ftw Aug 16 16:38:23 ubuntu 10.04 64-bit, installed Palm stuff and Aptana Aug 16 16:38:29 worked fine Aug 16 16:38:30 bah. nothing beats pencil and paper Aug 16 16:38:42 tiny magnets, remember? Aug 16 16:38:48 i use a magnatized needle and a magnifying glass Aug 16 16:38:49 lol Aug 16 16:38:52 MAGNETS! Aug 16 16:39:07 MARS! Aug 16 16:39:12 FRANCE Aug 16 16:39:19 NUKE IT FROM ORBIT Aug 16 16:39:25 dekan: any ideas? Aug 16 16:39:26 run it into an emulator and try smashing the repulsive thing until it works Aug 16 16:39:35 * maik pats dekan Aug 16 16:39:35 that was a good one Aug 16 16:39:36 * dekan purrrrrrrrrr Aug 16 16:39:40 very good, actually Aug 16 16:39:42 dekan: make me a sandwich Aug 16 16:39:43 * dekan makes a sandwich with lots of SDK and idea. Aug 16 16:39:45 need to remove a div from screen by sliding up or sliding horizontally --> how would I look it up? Aug 16 16:39:53 hahahahaha Aug 16 16:39:54 dekan: haiku Aug 16 16:39:55 gives dekan some clue / is now carrying some clue. / gives dekan dekan Aug 16 16:39:59 argh Aug 16 16:40:18 I need to start programming again... and by that I mean for more than 10 minutes at a time Aug 16 16:40:42 this is a programming room? Aug 16 16:40:46 dekan found this haiku: that was a good one / very good, actually / make me a sandwich Aug 16 16:40:47 no Aug 16 16:40:51 i thought this was a singles dating site Aug 16 16:41:01 right now would be a good time since someone else is in the office so no watching netflx, but still installing dev stuff on mbp Aug 16 16:41:06 we-bos Aug 16 16:41:18 !!! Aug 16 16:41:20 weeeee-bose? Aug 16 16:41:22 NEW BOFH Aug 16 16:41:32 well, new for me Aug 16 16:41:33 halfhalo_class: ¿donde? Aug 16 16:41:41 NEW2U! Aug 16 16:41:44 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/bofh_2010_episode_9/ Aug 16 16:42:45 sugardave: need to remove a div from screen by sliding up or sliding horizontally. would that be "Accelerometer" events? Aug 16 16:44:03 The early bofh was better Aug 16 16:45:44 heh, <3 bofh Aug 16 16:45:53 Inorit? Aug 16 16:46:17 LoneStar99: flick events Aug 16 16:46:17 LoneStar99: you'd use accelerometer if you wanted them to slide off because you tilted the phone Aug 16 16:46:47 hmm flick events Aug 16 16:46:48 This sdk has been saying a minute is remaining for a hell of a long time Aug 16 16:47:05 nope, reboot no go Aug 16 16:47:11 eclipse still doesn't show it Aug 16 16:47:30 20 bucks says you have to go and manually select it via windows menu Aug 16 16:47:35 window* Aug 16 16:47:55 that is the problem Aug 16 16:48:03 doh! Aug 16 16:48:06 window > open perspective > other... does not have webos Aug 16 16:48:16 so i can't manually select it Aug 16 16:48:19 that is the problem Aug 16 16:48:26 hmmm..... reinstall the plugin? Aug 16 16:48:40 tried Aug 16 16:48:52 :/ Aug 16 16:49:06 I'm going to just go ahead and blame oil on this one Aug 16 16:49:12 lol Aug 16 16:49:19 its what I do Aug 16 16:49:22 Here here Aug 16 16:50:05 cryptk: have you tried rebooting? Aug 16 16:50:09 yes Aug 16 16:50:11 rofl Aug 16 16:50:12 how many times? Aug 16 16:50:14 reboot more Aug 16 16:50:48 and if you didn't get that reference, go watch this: http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ - Episode 1 Aug 16 16:50:50 once, if rebooting once didn't fix it... no point in doing it again unless I make some other change Aug 16 16:51:06 cryptk: you clearly didn't get the reference Aug 16 16:51:11 see my aforementioned link Aug 16 16:51:16 go ahead, i'll wait Aug 16 16:51:37 anyone have a flick event example? Aug 16 16:51:45 code example that is? Aug 16 16:51:45 dekan: support is Is it plugged in, sir/madam? Aug 16 16:51:46 Okay, sugardave. Aug 16 16:51:50 dekan: support Aug 16 16:51:51 Is it plugged in, sir/madam? Aug 16 16:52:30 bah, client complaining fiscal server is toast Aug 16 16:52:35 ah, fun with the bot Aug 16 16:52:36 * maik ducks into a phone-booth Aug 16 16:52:46 lol Aug 16 16:52:46 Anivrom|pre: now I know why your sliding list doesn't work for me Aug 16 16:52:47 Oo Aug 16 16:52:50 you use flick Aug 16 16:52:56 And? Aug 16 16:53:02 i have a great app idea .. an app to find the closest phone-booth Aug 16 16:53:10 I expect scroll (drag) Aug 16 16:53:21 Oh Aug 16 16:53:26 lol Aug 16 16:53:26 find the closest phone booth and do what with it Aug 16 16:53:34 make a phone-call Aug 16 16:53:39 what else? Aug 16 16:53:50 change Aug 16 16:54:05 dundundunnnn Aug 16 16:54:13 Did you find that out by opening source or by what I told lonestar? Aug 16 16:54:14 given that there's a phone in your pocket, phone booths are now useful mostly for changing into your superhero outfit Aug 16 16:54:23 It has been half an hour and this is still not done Aug 16 16:54:44 I realized it when you said flick last night Aug 16 16:54:49 alright boys chat later, irc don't work where i am going Aug 16 16:54:51 chat later Aug 16 16:54:57 Cya Aug 16 16:55:42 will work on flick, and let you all know if i get anywhere Aug 16 16:55:44 Yea its alot easier to implement flick and it works out pretty well Aug 16 16:55:59 Its super easy LoneStar99 Aug 16 16:56:13 really, you have a simple example? Aug 16 16:56:15 =) Aug 16 16:56:33 Yea Mojo.event.flick Aug 16 16:56:46 Event.velocity.x Aug 16 16:57:04 Event.velocity.y Aug 16 16:57:48 that is all? Aug 16 16:58:14 and just set in setup() or activate() right? Aug 16 16:58:30 Well you can do whatever you want with the x and y and the flick part goes in standard event listener setup Aug 16 17:00:03 That's just the event name Aug 16 17:00:04 fixed eclipse Aug 16 17:00:13 Yay Aug 16 17:00:21 I wiped out my workspace and started over, lol Aug 16 17:00:25 Anivrom|pre: Ook thanks, will work on it, chat laters folks Aug 16 17:00:29 wasn't a big deal since I had jsut isntalled it Aug 16 17:03:50 holycarp Aug 16 17:04:02 the netbooky has a cpu with vt-x Aug 16 17:05:44 NOOOO! Aug 16 17:05:48 CHUQUI!!!! Aug 16 17:05:48 "LOOK, A PUPPY!!" Aug 16 17:05:54 WHERE Aug 16 17:06:56 there! http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17331_1277976544396_1079472750_30866128_5634274_n.jpg Aug 16 17:11:32 daww Aug 16 17:11:48 my puppy like 6 months ago Aug 16 17:11:54 now he's a beast Aug 16 17:11:59 heh Aug 16 17:12:05 my pups a little more than a year old Aug 16 17:12:38 hehe Aug 16 17:12:44 mine turns 1 in november Aug 16 17:12:57 so i don't know if he's finished growing or not yet :P Aug 16 17:13:00 heh Aug 16 17:13:06 mines a evil person Aug 16 17:13:15 PERSON! Aug 16 17:13:28 and he's a thief Aug 16 17:13:41 lol Aug 16 17:14:03 He steals our couch cushions all the time Aug 16 17:14:17 lol Aug 16 17:14:36 mine gets on my bed to sleep, and scrapes all the sheets into a pile on top of my pillows Aug 16 17:14:43 and then lays down on it in the middle of my bed Aug 16 17:14:44 heh Aug 16 17:14:48 so i have no sheets, pillows, or space Aug 16 17:15:14 Mine is not allowed to go inside or outside alone anymore Aug 16 17:15:21 the captivate... doesn't have camera flash lol Aug 16 17:15:22 and looks so cute and pitiful i can't move him Aug 16 17:15:34 brb Aug 16 17:15:47 He started to go in the pool and then run onto the bed's Aug 16 17:15:53 sopping wet Aug 16 17:18:10 Heh, his uncle is the dog in click Aug 16 17:22:44 I had a wild sparrow sitting in the palm of my hand today Aug 16 17:22:51 Was pretty cool Aug 16 17:23:24 He must have been dazed cause he was just sitting in the middle of the sidewalk and I Almost steped on him Aug 16 17:23:38 Just stooped down a picked him up. Aug 16 17:23:49 He didn't fly away or anything Aug 16 17:24:17 and then you crushed him? Aug 16 17:24:37 Nah snapped a picture though :P Aug 16 17:25:42 well I guess that's cool too Aug 16 17:26:35 Yes, I actually had time to open the camera app and the whole 10 minutes he just sat there Aug 16 17:26:47 haha Aug 16 17:27:04 Luckily :P Aug 16 17:27:23 hmmm, slider widget doesn't like being in my palm-group Aug 16 17:27:29 My subject is usually long gone by thetime that bloody thing opens Aug 16 17:28:13 runTextIndexer is broken Aug 16 17:28:46 Lets blame oil! Weeeee Aug 16 17:31:34 Chuqui Aug 16 17:31:34 "LOOK, A PUPPY!!" Aug 16 17:31:42 hey all Aug 16 17:31:58 rehi Aug 16 17:32:07 lol got busy at work Aug 16 17:32:25 Hey bhodder, tried that cheddar bagel...toasted with butter. Not bad not bad Aug 16 17:32:33 morning Aug 16 17:32:35 anyone want to trade a pixi for a pre? Aug 16 17:32:43 no not bad at all had one this morning myself Aug 16 17:32:46 gsm that is Aug 16 17:32:57 hum. Aug 16 17:33:01 sorry on cdma Aug 16 17:33:35 ewww, gms Aug 16 17:33:36 gsm Aug 16 17:33:38 Anivrom|pre, that and a good ol tims coffee Aug 16 17:34:57 Me too Aug 16 17:34:58 Medium 3 cream 1 sugar Aug 16 17:35:12 just black Aug 16 17:35:25 well, i would take a cdma pixi .. but i only have a gsm pre to trade with Aug 16 17:35:34 it would need wifi tho Aug 16 17:35:34 ohhh ok Aug 16 17:35:52 sorry I have cdma pre Aug 16 17:35:53 this is taking foreva Aug 16 17:37:34 What are you working on halfhalo Aug 16 17:37:48 installing git from mac-ports Aug 16 17:38:05 ohh ok Aug 16 17:39:06 One time chuck norris and wolverine were sparring ehen wolverine cut off chucks left testicle. You may know it by its technical term 'Jupiter' Aug 16 17:42:31 go to google Aug 16 17:42:39 type in "find chuck norris" and hit i'm feeling lucky Aug 16 17:42:48 Oil: when are you going to fix this bug in wirc where it disconnects you when you leave service area? Its really annoying. Gosh can't you write even that much without buggin it up? Aug 16 17:43:05 * Anivrom|pre requests ticket Aug 16 17:44:05 lol Aug 16 17:44:58 Methinks its a plugin issue. I don't do plugins. Else I would try to fix it Aug 16 17:45:42 Its crazy. I drop to no bars and I dc from wirc Aug 16 17:46:02 i just took my treo 650 out of the drawer .. how, how clunky it is ... the keyboard is nice tho Aug 16 17:46:40 wIRC does disconnect from networks as soon as it reconnects to the network Aug 16 17:55:33 Tibfib: hey hi ho Aug 16 17:55:47 Anivrom|pre: howdy Aug 16 17:55:59 my pet still hates me Aug 16 17:56:04 How did rex fair Aug 16 17:56:09 shocker Aug 16 17:56:14 lol Aug 16 17:56:16 Hah Aug 16 17:56:26 I think the bar is as low as possible Aug 16 17:56:38 Oh Aug 16 17:56:43 Wonder why Aug 16 17:56:43 ummmmm Aug 16 17:56:52 forgot db info... Aug 16 17:56:53 :/ Aug 16 17:57:05 What's the other stats look like? Aug 16 17:57:24 green and yellow Aug 16 17:57:32 Happiness? Aug 16 17:57:36 yellow Aug 16 17:58:00 * halfhalo_class is lost Aug 16 17:58:33 Well how long did you leave him for? Aug 16 17:58:54 overnight... I had to sleep Aug 16 18:01:11 omg Aug 16 18:01:17 I HATE YOU COMPUTER Aug 16 18:02:26 * halfhalo_class cries Aug 16 18:02:54 don't take it personal Aug 16 18:04:05 and now the acer is acting up... Aug 16 18:04:07 GREAT Aug 16 18:07:09 * maik pats halfhalo_class Aug 16 18:07:15 hmmm Aug 16 18:07:18 * maik pats dekan Aug 16 18:07:18 * dekan purrrrrrrrrr Aug 16 18:07:22 botsnack Aug 16 18:07:23 * dekan nom nom nom Aug 16 18:07:28 * swisstomcat pats dekan Aug 16 18:07:29 * dekan purrrrrrrrrr Aug 16 18:07:37 dekan: meow Aug 16 18:07:38 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Aug 16 18:07:55 dekan: meow mrow Aug 16 18:07:56 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:08:05 dekan: meow Aug 16 18:08:06 mrow Aug 16 18:08:19 dekan: meow meeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Aug 16 18:08:20 Okay, swisstomcat. Aug 16 18:08:26 dekan: meow Aug 16 18:08:27 meeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Aug 16 18:08:31 yes! Aug 16 18:08:39 * sugardave gives dekan lightning speed and cat-like reflexes Aug 16 18:08:40 * dekan now contains lightning speed and cat-like reflexes. Aug 16 18:08:54 * swisstomcat gives dekan a dead mouse Aug 16 18:08:55 * dekan now contains a dead mouse. Aug 16 18:09:02 * Tibfib slaps dekan Aug 16 18:09:10 make me a sandwich Aug 16 18:09:11 * dekan shrieks a sandwich with lots of sword and Verizon. Aug 16 18:09:20 mmm, poky Aug 16 18:09:29 hmm, i didn't know that he could make sandwiches Aug 16 18:09:31 what else? Aug 16 18:09:36 any ideas? Aug 16 18:09:37 talk it into a factoid and try smashing the adorable thing until it works Aug 16 18:09:38 dekan: make me a sandwich Aug 16 18:09:39 * dekan makes a sandwich with lots of idea and emulator. Aug 16 18:09:47 lol Aug 16 18:10:01 hah Aug 16 18:10:05 swisstomcat: give him the commands and he can do it Aug 16 18:10:24 dekan: make some noise smashes $object into $object Aug 16 18:10:25 Okay, swisstomcat. Aug 16 18:10:31 dekan: make some noise Aug 16 18:10:33 smashes $object into $object Aug 16 18:11:09 maik: forget that Aug 16 18:11:15 Tibfib: no Aug 16 18:11:18 hahahaah Aug 16 18:11:18 try undo last Aug 16 18:11:24 dekan: forget that Aug 16 18:11:25 That is not bananas Aug 16 18:11:32 "undo last" Aug 16 18:11:53 are everyone else's stylesheets huge? Aug 16 18:11:55 dekan: undo last Aug 16 18:11:56 Sorry, Tibfib, you can't undo that. Aug 16 18:12:02 botsmack Aug 16 18:12:04 * dekan cowers Aug 16 18:12:06 swisstomcat needs to do it Aug 16 18:12:12 since he made it Aug 16 18:12:13 dekan: make some noise smashes $vehicle into the $bodypart of $celebrity Aug 16 18:12:14 Okay, swisstomcat. Aug 16 18:12:22 dekan: make some noise Aug 16 18:12:23 smashes $object into $object Aug 16 18:12:26 swisstomcat: that's not going to work at all Aug 16 18:12:28 :/ Aug 16 18:12:29 dekan: make some noise Aug 16 18:12:30 smashes chevy into the $bodypart of $celebrity Aug 16 18:12:36 almost Aug 16 18:12:54 despite what the docs say, he doesn't know $bodypart or $celebrity Aug 16 18:13:03 though if you can come up with some lists i'll be happy to make them for you Aug 16 18:13:05 oh, i see Aug 16 18:13:19 that should be easy Aug 16 18:13:21 celebrity should be members of this channel :) Aug 16 18:13:26 heh Aug 16 18:13:33 that's $someone Aug 16 18:13:34 plus some palm peeps Aug 16 18:13:47 but that's only recent people Aug 16 18:13:52 right Aug 16 18:14:02 you want some key players then Aug 16 18:14:07 dekan: make some noise $op smashes $vehicle into $someone Aug 16 18:14:08 Okay, swisstomcat. Aug 16 18:14:14 dekan: make some noise Aug 16 18:14:15 smashes chevy into the $bodypart of $celebrity Aug 16 18:14:25 hrm Aug 16 18:14:26 swisstomcat: he still remembers the old stuff Aug 16 18:14:32 dekan: literal make some noise Aug 16 18:14:34 make some noise smashes $object into $object| smashes $vehicle into the $bodypart of $celebrity| $op smashes $vehicle into $someone Aug 16 18:14:34 do i have to undo first? Aug 16 18:14:40 swisstomcat: every time you tell him something is the same as something he already knows he'll add it to the list of possible things Aug 16 18:14:44 oh Aug 16 18:14:47 picked at random when triggered Aug 16 18:14:52 want to start over? Aug 16 18:14:58 yeah, go ahead Aug 16 18:15:05 dekan: delete make some noise Aug 16 18:15:06 Okay, maik, 3 factoids deleted. Aug 16 18:15:10 thx Aug 16 18:15:12 dizzun Aug 16 18:15:17 ekan: make some noise $op smashes $vehicle into $someone Aug 16 18:15:20 dekan: make some noise $op smashes $vehicle into $someone Aug 16 18:15:21 heh Aug 16 18:15:22 Okay, swisstomcat. Aug 16 18:15:28 dekan: make some noise Aug 16 18:15:30 $op smashes $vehicle into halfhalo_class Aug 16 18:15:35 wow Aug 16 18:15:40 swisstomcat Aug 16 18:15:41 swisstomcat drives a sparkly teal chevy with $celebrity Aug 16 18:15:42 dekan: list var Aug 16 18:15:42 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Aug 16 18:15:45 dekan: list var vehicle Aug 16 18:15:46 vehicle: chevy, dodge, and ford Aug 16 18:15:53 hmmm Aug 16 18:15:55 well wtf, over Aug 16 18:15:56 hmm Aug 16 18:16:07 Maik can you update the bodypart var? Aug 16 18:16:07 dekan: list var recent Aug 16 18:16:09 Sorry, Tibfib, I don't know a variable 'recent'. Aug 16 18:16:09 Dekan: list bodypart Aug 16 18:16:10 Can't talk, zombies! Aug 16 18:16:13 woops Aug 16 18:16:22 dekan: list var bodyparts Aug 16 18:16:23 Sorry, Tibfib, I don't know a variable 'bodyparts'. Aug 16 18:16:27 dekan: list var bodypart Aug 16 18:16:29 Sorry, Tibfib, I don't know a variable 'bodypart'. Aug 16 18:16:33 why doesn't vehicle work for me? Aug 16 18:16:36 and $op? Aug 16 18:16:40 Dekan: die in a fire Aug 16 18:16:40 Oh yea? Why don't I throw your chartreuse colored $bodypart into a fire! Aug 16 18:16:44 lol Aug 16 18:16:48 See Aug 16 18:16:54 Need bodyparts Aug 16 18:17:01 arm leg nose Aug 16 18:17:04 toe Aug 16 18:17:10 elbow Aug 16 18:17:16 dekan: add var bodypart arm Aug 16 18:17:17 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Aug 16 18:17:21 botsmack Aug 16 18:17:22 OUCH Aug 16 18:17:22 Maik: can we get some bodypart love? Aug 16 18:17:23 elbow is the most important Aug 16 18:17:27 working on it Aug 16 18:17:32 kewl Aug 16 18:17:56 dekan: vroom a $vehicle drives by and makes VROOOOMMM! Aug 16 18:17:58 Okay, swisstomcat. Aug 16 18:18:02 dekan: vroom Aug 16 18:18:03 a dodge drives by and makes VROOOOMMM! Aug 16 18:18:07 yay! Aug 16 18:18:12 dekan: create var bodypart Aug 16 18:18:13 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:18:17 dekan: add var bodypart arm Aug 16 18:18:18 Error at 0x08: Reference not found Aug 16 18:18:33 whee, fixed my slider-n group-in scroller layout issue Aug 16 18:18:35 dekan: add list var bodypart Aug 16 18:18:36 Beeeeeeeeeeeeep! Aug 16 18:18:50 dekan: add value bodypart arm Aug 16 18:18:51 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:18:53 dekan: add value bodypart leg Aug 16 18:18:54 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:18:54 sugardave: 101 Aug 16 18:18:55 dekan: add value bodypart toe Aug 16 18:18:56 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:18:56 dekan: add value bodypart elbow Aug 16 18:18:57 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:19:01 Dekan: die in a fire Aug 16 18:19:01 Oh yea? Why don't I throw your plum colored toe into a fire! Aug 16 18:19:04 :D Aug 16 18:19:06 :) Aug 16 18:19:08 Hah Aug 16 18:19:10 maiksnack Aug 16 18:19:12 dekan: make some noise Aug 16 18:19:13 $op smashes $vehicle into Anivrom|pre Aug 16 18:19:16 * maik nom nom nom Aug 16 18:19:25 hrmm Aug 16 18:19:27 i'll look into $op Aug 16 18:19:35 i think once it can't resolve a variable it stops processing the rest Aug 16 18:19:38 why doesn't $vehicle work all the time? Aug 16 18:19:42 oh Aug 16 18:20:03 dekan: add list var celebrity Aug 16 18:20:04 That is not bananas Aug 16 18:20:13 i don't think non-ops can add to variables Aug 16 18:20:17 oh well Aug 16 18:20:30 syntax is: add value Aug 16 18:20:31 dekan: add value celebrity tibfib Aug 16 18:20:32 Sorry, Tibfib, I don't know of a variable 'celebrity'. Aug 16 18:20:40 need to create it Aug 16 18:20:43 create var Aug 16 18:20:53 dekan: create var celebrity Aug 16 18:20:54 I cannot access that data. Aug 16 18:20:59 ya, bumme Aug 16 18:21:00 bummer Aug 16 18:21:03 * Tibfib smacks dekan Aug 16 18:21:04 dekan: create var celebrity Aug 16 18:21:05 Okay, maik. Aug 16 18:21:05 NO POWER Aug 16 18:21:09 try adding, Tibfib Aug 16 18:21:14 dekan: add value celebrity tibfib Aug 16 18:21:15 Sorry, Tibfib, you don't have permissions to edit 'celebrity'. Aug 16 18:21:22 dekan: unprotect celebrity Aug 16 18:21:23 Okay, maik, updated the protection bit. Aug 16 18:21:26 dekan: add value celebrity tibfib Aug 16 18:21:28 Sorry, Tibfib, you don't have permissions to edit 'celebrity'. Aug 16 18:21:31 botsmack Aug 16 18:21:32 * dekan dodges your attack and strikes you with ***EVISCERATING*** brutality. You have died. Aug 16 18:21:37 let me try Aug 16 18:21:39 botsmack Aug 16 18:21:40 * dekan dodges your attack and strikes you with ***EVISCERATING*** brutality. You have died. Aug 16 18:21:42 damn Aug 16 18:21:44 heh Aug 16 18:21:44 botsmack! Aug 16 18:21:46 * dekan dodges your attack and strikes you with ***EVISCERATING*** brutality. You have died. Aug 16 18:21:46 deka is good today Aug 16 18:21:50 Dekan: die in a fire Aug 16 18:21:50 Oh yea? Why don't I throw your indigo colored toe into a fire! Aug 16 18:21:52 3/3, crap Aug 16 18:21:55 Maik: how about adding webos words to verbs and nouns? Aug 16 18:22:09 i added a bunch of noun Aug 16 18:22:13 dekan: list var noun Aug 16 18:22:14 noun: C40, Mojo, Palm, Pixi, Pre, SDK, Sprint, Verizon, acid, acorn, bacon, battery, beef, cake, comic, device, emulator, factoid, galaxy, idea, magic, mindjail, phone, potato, salami, shirt, sword, tooth, and wrench Aug 16 18:22:23 the ones in the beginning are the most recent Aug 16 18:22:25 Isee Aug 16 18:22:30 Any ieas? Aug 16 18:22:34 Any ideas? Aug 16 18:22:35 run it into a Pixi and try smashing the slow thing until it works Aug 16 18:22:48 * halfhalo_class shoots mysql db Aug 16 18:22:53 I see ill try that. Thanks dekan! Aug 16 18:23:05 halfhalo_class: have you tried asking dekan if he has any ideas? Aug 16 18:23:17 hmm, it would seem my global variable is living beyond the life of my app Aug 16 18:23:24 that's disturbing Aug 16 18:23:25 hah? Aug 16 18:23:28 definitely Aug 16 18:23:39 "MySQL said: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 61" Aug 16 18:23:42 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Aug 16 18:23:59 Dekan: any ideas? Aug 16 18:24:00 run it into an emulator and try kissing the moldy thing until it works Aug 16 18:24:10 Yeahno Aug 16 18:24:14 Hey that sounds logical... Aug 16 18:24:22 hey guys, how do i access curl? Aug 16 18:24:28 google curl Aug 16 18:24:34 Lol Aug 16 18:24:35 GOOOGLE Aug 16 18:24:42 on webos Aug 16 18:24:42 GOOOOOOOOOOAOOOGLE Aug 16 18:24:45 GOAL! Aug 16 18:24:46 halfhalo_class: Aug 16 18:24:51 gaggle Aug 16 18:24:53 Is losing it Aug 16 18:24:58 Yup! Aug 16 18:25:06 i m trying to load some curl commands on webos Aug 16 18:25:11 javascript Aug 16 18:25:27 hmm, actually to get data Aug 16 18:25:28 javascript doesn't need curl Aug 16 18:25:42 ok, if its due to a firewall someones going to die Aug 16 18:25:44 you can just xhr/ajax whatever you want Aug 16 18:26:07 I get a "Access to restricted URI denied" Aug 16 18:26:16 that's your problem, then Aug 16 18:26:24 you don't have access Aug 16 18:26:32 dundunDUN Aug 16 18:27:05 Has anyone tried to croscompile say ekiga for a sip client? Aug 16 18:27:31 yah, but I have access through curl Aug 16 18:28:36 you will have to be more forthcoming with what you are trying to do Aug 16 18:29:53 ping warpdesign_ Aug 16 18:30:50 this needs to be FASTA Aug 16 18:30:53 FAAAASTA Aug 16 18:31:01 * Anivrom|pre has downtime. Time for some radiant! Aug 16 18:31:43 bbl Aug 16 18:32:05 10MB/s is not fast enough Aug 16 18:34:02 lol Aug 16 18:35:30 oh good, no zombies...I'm just checking for cookie existence, not a particular property in it Aug 16 18:35:37 so it is passing Aug 16 18:55:28 Anivrom|pre: Hey, you around? Aug 16 18:55:38 Yea Aug 16 18:56:18 Anivrom|pre: Can you test something? Aug 16 18:57:02 I don't have access toa computer Aug 16 18:57:56 Anivrom|pre: Internalz FTW? Aug 16 18:58:48 If its ipk then sure Aug 16 18:59:39 back Aug 16 18:59:55 Front Aug 16 19:00:07 Weee I like this game Aug 16 19:01:43 Okay Aug 16 19:01:45 Sorry about that Aug 16 19:01:53 Anivrom|pre: So you can't install stuff? Aug 16 19:02:22 I can if its ipk in link Aug 16 19:05:41 in link? Aug 16 19:06:53 Link me to an ipk.... Aug 16 19:07:07 oh Aug 16 19:17:51 maik: Ping Aug 16 19:18:00 kesne: pong Aug 16 19:19:45 YAHTZEE Aug 16 19:20:44 halfhalo_class: NICE! Aug 16 19:21:00 yup Aug 16 19:21:12 someone is going to die due to this network Aug 16 19:24:06 I wrote a yahtzee program in highschool with speech recognition control. Worked great. "roll", "take all fives" "roll", "use large straight" Aug 16 19:24:31 Or something like that.. Aug 16 19:24:51 Too bad I lost the code aeons ago Aug 16 19:39:36 halfhalo_class: Anivrom|pre: its not my fault Aug 16 19:40:07 Tell it to the judge Aug 16 19:40:31 I need a nap Aug 16 19:40:47 * Tibfib needs a snack Aug 16 19:40:50 its officially not my fault Aug 16 19:40:52 make me a sandwich Aug 16 19:40:53 * dekan kisss a sandwich with lots of salami and beef. Aug 16 19:41:10 Tibfib: buy one from the shop lol Aug 16 19:41:21 dekan failed. Aug 16 19:41:26 Anivrom|pre: :P Aug 16 19:41:33 Watermelon is the besk although super rare Aug 16 19:41:37 Best Aug 16 19:41:56 haha, his stats are maxed Aug 16 19:42:03 Cheater Aug 16 19:42:13 Whoa! I only cheated on bond Aug 16 19:42:22 Oh Aug 16 19:42:23 everything else is actually maxed Aug 16 19:42:54 You justraped him with snacks/vitamins? Aug 16 19:43:46 Kate thinks the name rex is so cute Aug 16 19:44:27 Now she wants to name our first child rex.... Look what you've done Aug 16 19:44:59 its always oils fault Aug 16 19:45:18 lol Aug 16 19:45:18 lies Aug 16 19:45:19 Once money system is in place it will be harder to juststock up Aug 16 19:45:24 have you seen the whoiswho page? Aug 16 19:45:31 it clearly states its not my fault Aug 16 19:46:48 and dont you dare go and edit it Aug 16 19:46:51 Pjanoo!!! Aug 16 19:46:55 freaking wikis, letting everyone edit it Aug 16 19:47:01 LOL Aug 16 19:47:08 Threaaaaat Aug 16 19:47:09 lol Aug 16 19:47:17 * halfhalo_class dont use wiki's Aug 16 19:47:24 good Aug 16 19:47:30 YOUR GOOD Aug 16 19:47:34 wait, what? Aug 16 19:47:36 i know :) Aug 16 19:47:45 Anivrom|pre: So I heard your app sux Aug 16 19:47:48 kense told me Aug 16 19:48:01 that doesn't work if its you Aug 16 19:48:10 you forgot to change your nick first Aug 16 19:48:15 lol Aug 16 19:48:16 I'm not kense Aug 16 19:48:19 I'm kesne Aug 16 19:48:27 * oil cant tell the two apart Aug 16 19:48:34 Kense works at Keene Studios Entertainment. Aug 16 19:48:35 shocker Aug 16 19:48:42 He made Planty Eaters Aug 16 19:48:45 go fix wirc oil Aug 16 19:48:52 wirc is perfecto! Aug 16 19:48:57 +1 Aug 16 19:49:03 wirc is the alpha and the omega Aug 16 19:49:07 * halfhalo_class breaks wirc and hands oil the pieces Aug 16 19:49:18 Does the pre support SVG? Aug 16 19:49:58 does it Aug 16 19:50:16 I want to know Aug 16 19:50:25 i want to know Aug 16 19:50:31 If it does, I'll start using vector graphics because I'm BA Aug 16 19:50:42 BA? Aug 16 19:50:46 Bad Ass Aug 16 19:50:57 yeah svg is pretty fly shit Aug 16 19:51:06 BAMF is Badass Mother (you get it) Aug 16 19:52:18 badass mother firetruck? Aug 16 19:52:23 sounds like a cool name for a movie Aug 16 19:52:30 it'd be about a nun named mother firetruck Aug 16 19:52:34 farter? Aug 16 19:52:50 she would go around the world ownin dudes and taking bites out of crime-- i mean, sin Aug 16 19:56:58 * kesne is remaking the KS logo in Inkscaoe Aug 16 19:57:02 Inkscape Aug 16 19:57:35 fuck yeah inkscap Aug 16 19:57:36 p Aug 16 19:57:37 ap Aug 16 19:57:43 Inkscappe Aug 16 19:59:40 It's pretty sweet Aug 16 19:59:48 Though I'm still getting used to it Aug 16 20:00:45 I just saw a tron legacy poster and almost had an orgasm. It looks so awesome Aug 16 20:01:02 it is Aug 16 20:01:08 * oil wants to see it Aug 16 20:01:14 Those new lightcycles look amazing Aug 16 20:01:27 * halfhalo_pre saw e3 tron exhibit Aug 16 20:01:28 Its out dec 17th Aug 16 20:01:39 No way Aug 16 20:01:46 * oil freezes himself till then Aug 16 20:01:49 Wha did they show therezn Aug 16 20:01:52 There? Aug 16 20:02:12 played the game and they showed trailer Aug 16 20:02:16 Oil: you've seen original right? Aug 16 20:02:24 original? Aug 16 20:02:30 * oil hopes that was a joke Aug 16 20:02:35 .... Aug 16 20:02:40 Tron 1982 Aug 16 20:02:44 ... Aug 16 20:02:56 * oil slaps Anivrom|pre Aug 16 20:02:59 One of the best movies of alltime Aug 16 20:03:29 * Anivrom|pre does not know the reason in which he was slapped Aug 16 20:03:56 Its a legit question since over half the ppl in here havent Aug 16 20:03:56 * halfhalo_pre slaps all of you Aug 16 20:04:07 over half the people here haven't? Aug 16 20:04:12 * oil finds that hard to believe Aug 16 20:04:20 Its true Aug 16 20:04:24 * halfhalo_class thinks oil is crazy and should be working Aug 16 20:05:11 it can't be true Aug 16 20:05:16 * oil refuses to accept it Aug 16 20:05:22 * halfhalo_class lies Aug 16 20:05:31 * Anivrom|pre is listening to 8bit nintendo tracks for fun, namely megaman and bitshifter Aug 16 20:06:05 Although bitshifter uses gameboy emulator Aug 16 20:06:22 ok, ALL of my dvd's in my blank stack are broken Aug 16 20:07:02 .... Why aren't you using holographic cubes?.. Much more reliable Aug 16 20:07:13 http://keen-studios.net/logo.svg Aug 16 20:07:22 Need to change the font I usually use Aug 16 20:08:07 The backwards tilted S is a custom font thingy Aug 16 20:08:12 For consistency Aug 16 20:08:18 * oil tries not to laugh Aug 16 20:08:25 Lol Aug 16 20:08:30 what? Aug 16 20:08:51 Also, i havent seen Tron Aug 16 20:09:01 * oil slaps kesne Aug 16 20:09:05 go. Aug 16 20:09:06 Die in a fire Aug 16 20:09:07 watch. Aug 16 20:09:07 Oh yea? Why don't I throw your cerulean colored arm into a fire! Aug 16 20:09:08 now. Aug 16 20:09:28 Find me torrent Aug 16 20:09:30 Actually Aug 16 20:09:32 Ha! Jokes on you dekan cause I don't HAVE a cerulean coloured arm Aug 16 20:09:33 I hate torrents Aug 16 20:09:36 Lolol! Aug 16 20:09:58 Find me a WebM file for it and I'll watch it Aug 16 20:10:50 * oil wonders how fast he can find a video of it Aug 16 20:10:53 Gay Aug 16 20:11:07 I torrented mine in 3 hours Aug 16 20:11:23 Although I really should just buy it Aug 16 20:11:59 * oil found it Aug 16 20:11:59 haha Aug 16 20:12:07 kesne, you need web divx player Aug 16 20:12:47 * oil pmed link Aug 16 20:14:44 * sugardave makes some solid progress on preferences scene. Aug 16 20:14:54 sugardave: Using cookies? Aug 16 20:15:10 yes, I always use cookies for preferences Aug 16 20:15:29 Psh Aug 16 20:15:33 Shhh he's here Aug 16 20:15:44 It's kense! Aug 16 20:15:50 cookis are bad ass if you use them right Aug 16 20:16:23 if you don't... Aug 16 20:16:27 well, then your name is kesne Aug 16 20:16:51 How do you use them right? Aug 16 20:17:02 I find they work best when you put them in a stomach object along with milk Aug 16 20:17:27 Especially if they are soft and chewy Aug 16 20:17:30 only use them for preferences and make sure it's < 4K total Aug 16 20:17:48 well not ONLY for preferences..."preference-like" data Aug 16 20:17:50 cookies for prefs is so first half of 2010 Aug 16 20:18:01 heh Aug 16 20:18:03 sugardave: My perferences can be over 4k Aug 16 20:18:09 awesome Aug 16 20:18:10 awesome is http://digitalpowers.com Aug 16 20:18:12 mine can't Aug 16 20:18:14 Cyocakes are where it's at Aug 16 20:18:17 I'm Awesome! Aug 16 20:18:18 No you're not dude, don't lie! Aug 16 20:18:22 er, cupcakes Aug 16 20:18:27 so I get to use cookies and all their synchronous goodness Aug 16 20:19:09 * haeffb_pre doesn't trust cookies anymore Aug 16 20:19:28 There should be a bloody arg in the depot/sql methods to swap from synch to asynch Aug 16 20:19:34 if I want to be redundant about it, I'll use sqlite Aug 16 20:19:37 cookies lied to me one too many times Aug 16 20:20:02 Checkers is built terribly Aug 16 20:20:07 I think it has 20+ cookies Aug 16 20:20:13 no no no Aug 16 20:20:33 1 or 2 cookies Aug 16 20:20:39 preferably 1 Aug 16 20:21:00 Kesne, so is the 4kb cap per cookie or total? Aug 16 20:21:13 the world may never know...I think it's all of them Aug 16 20:21:29 Well apparently he uses 20 lol Aug 16 20:21:30 When checkers was built, each settings got it's own cookie Aug 16 20:21:39 Hahahaha Aug 16 20:21:46 :P Aug 16 20:21:50 the world may never know (if they wait for me to test it) Aug 16 20:22:06 My friend went to Germany and the first thing he did was go to a nude beach Aug 16 20:22:24 I would have gotten my luggage Aug 16 20:22:41 sugardave: Nice one! Aug 16 20:23:26 Don't let the wife hear you say that :p Aug 16 20:25:58 you guys think adding a message speed slider and cleaning up the prefs scene a bit warrants a new update? Aug 16 20:26:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzakCwZUYHg Aug 16 20:27:09 anyone good with webkit border image? Aug 16 20:27:22 * Anivrom|pre points to sugardave Aug 16 20:27:29 riiiight Aug 16 20:27:33 sort of Aug 16 20:28:06 sugardave: I update my betas daily...someties twice a day :) Aug 16 20:28:31 haeffb_pre: did you ever answer my ? about the new startup message thingie? Aug 16 20:28:39 too lazy to scroll back Aug 16 20:28:51 Tibfib: what do you need to know? Aug 16 20:29:05 sugardave: how to use it :) Aug 16 20:29:11 oh, I know that part :D Aug 16 20:29:36 Tron is in Kingdom Hearts Aug 16 20:29:45 Yea Aug 16 20:29:47 so, you have your "box" image that you want to be the border Aug 16 20:29:54 I want to use an image as a background but have it stretch in landscape Aug 16 20:29:55 Cause KH is disney so is tron Aug 16 20:30:00 Yeah Aug 16 20:30:08 sugardave: yep Aug 16 20:30:09 The graphics here suck Aug 16 20:30:18 anyone working on sdl? Aug 16 20:30:25 and then you tell webkit border image how many "from the edge" pixels should be used to make the border for top, right, bottom, and left Aug 16 20:30:26 I mean pdk Aug 16 20:30:33 so like Aug 16 20:30:40 1982... Those crappy graphics were state of the art Aug 16 20:30:53 -webkit-border-image: url(blah) 5 stretch; Aug 16 20:30:56 alexfner: I am Aug 16 20:31:13 that would take blah and use the top 5 pixels for the top, right 5 for the right, etc. Aug 16 20:31:33 tron in kingdom hearts was a lul on a bun Aug 16 20:31:41 that makes sense, thanks Aug 16 20:31:47 now to get it to work properly :) Aug 16 20:31:48 stretch or repeat or round for the "fill the gaps" if your image isn't exactly the same dimensions as the box Aug 16 20:31:51 It exactly mirrors the movie Aug 16 20:32:41 Tibfib: so basically , imagine drawing a tic-tac-toe board on your "box" image, and the top left right bottom are edges, and everything else in the middle is the middle :D Aug 16 20:32:48 Robdor: what's the byte order for a pixel color value? Aug 16 20:33:01 Robdor: like, 0xrrggbb Aug 16 20:33:15 Robdor: because for some reason, 0xffffff is yellow Aug 16 20:33:19 rgba Aug 16 20:33:23 Are you using SDL or OpenGL? Aug 16 20:33:27 SDL Aug 16 20:34:04 Hmmm, I'm not sure about SDL, but OpenGL uses floats between 0 and 1 for each of the colors. Maybe SDL does something similar. Aug 16 20:34:29 Somebody on here was using 255 instead of 1 a few days ago and had similar problems I believe. Aug 16 20:35:17 I'm pretty sure SDL, as I'm using it, uses HEX Aug 16 20:35:22 so that's 0 to 255 Aug 16 20:35:45 it's just very odd Aug 16 20:36:07 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=524629 Aug 16 20:36:11 Maybe that will help Aug 16 20:36:13 cause one tutorial says, use 0x007f00 to get green, and to get the same color I actually have to use 0x70000f Aug 16 20:37:02 sugardave: what was the question? Aug 16 20:37:16 haeffb_pre: boxers or briefs Aug 16 20:37:29 boxer briefs Aug 16 20:37:37 haeffb_pre: did you see the new "first-run" screen in the new update Aug 16 20:37:38 ? Aug 16 20:37:40 brief boxers Aug 16 20:37:49 * haeffb_pre wishy-washy when it comes to undergarments Aug 16 20:38:09 no, I haven't installed from beta feed Aug 16 20:38:18 I wear boxers briefly then go straight commando Aug 16 20:38:39 ah Aug 16 20:38:40 k Aug 16 20:38:44 you should Aug 16 20:39:20 alexfner: You could just try to brute force it and draw pixels each one as 0x0000ff, 0x00ff00, 0xff0000 to see which color shows up with what pixel. Aug 16 20:39:36 uninstall the old one first and that way you'll see the new thing...if a school is already picked it won't show Aug 16 20:41:40 * sugardave sees lameness in the HTML he wrote last night. Aug 16 20:41:47 Like an entire half of a sentence is missing Aug 16 20:41:51 :s Aug 16 20:42:15 Yep Aug 16 20:42:23 Robdor: so I got it, good advice Aug 16 20:42:26 I didn't want to say anything Aug 16 20:42:42 Robdor: it's 0xggbbrraa, g = green, b = blue, r = red, a = alpha Aug 16 20:42:46 and they're all in hex Aug 16 20:43:19 gah, my hand is asleep Aug 16 20:43:47 and I cannot explain what 0xmmmmmm is, so I'll probably stick to 8 places, rather than 6, which makes sense from reading that other link that you sent Aug 16 20:43:53 thanks much Aug 16 20:44:06 who pixed GBRA as a pixel format? Aug 16 20:44:41 don't ask me Aug 16 20:44:47 The SDL team. Because standard formats are for wimps. :) Aug 16 20:44:53 * dtzWill has no idea what you're even talking about haha :). Aug 16 20:45:03 ah, kk. o_O. that's unfortunate. Aug 16 20:46:23 oh hell, I guess I need new screenshots Aug 16 20:47:57 Does Palm provide a way to get in contact with people who left reviews with apps? I had a naming contest for my PDK game and It's hard to give a prize to the winner if they left the suggestion in a review instead of emailing it or tweeting it to me. Aug 16 20:48:21 there is no way provided by palm Aug 16 20:48:24 Anivrom|pre: How come everybody just believes him? Aug 16 20:48:25 not afaik Aug 16 20:48:44 Robdor: No Aug 16 20:48:51 sugardave: got it. saw the missing sentence. Aug 16 20:48:57 Believes who Aug 16 20:49:03 Anivrom|pre: The main guy Aug 16 20:49:08 Robdor: is sdl sufficient for 2d graphics? Do you think? Aug 16 20:49:11 need a 'done reading this button' Aug 16 20:49:12 I decided that the first half of the sentence is unimportant, so away it goes Aug 16 20:49:29 http://html5zombo.com/ Aug 16 20:49:31 haeffb_pre: yeah, I guess....not in this update, though :D Aug 16 20:49:35 Kesne: the mcp? Aug 16 20:50:03 Anivrom|pre: Nevermind Aug 16 20:50:08 Lol Aug 16 20:50:28 alexfner: what do you have in mind? :) Aug 16 20:50:31 oil: do you know what is 'handles' in palm-worm? Aug 16 20:50:32 alexfner: It is if you don't get too crazy with matrix transformations and doing too many blits per loop. Aug 16 20:50:58 alexfner: My 2d game uses OpenGL, because SDL falls apart pretty quickly. Aug 16 20:51:38 This is it: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.trackera.namemebeta Aug 16 20:51:42 Robdor: How so? this is going to be relatively simple, what i am working on at least. 2d, with a couple of large sprites, and a few hundred smaller sprites Aug 16 20:52:12 "falls apart?" Aug 16 20:52:14 The few hundred smaller sprites will be a problem unless they are a few surfaces that you are blitting multiple times. Aug 16 20:52:45 If they are individual surfaces you will have problems. Aug 16 20:52:59 they are not Aug 16 20:53:05 this is very simple :D Aug 16 20:53:14 not too complicated Aug 16 20:53:36 Doing transformations like rotating too many surfaces can cause big performance problems too. Aug 16 20:55:17 It's definitely worth testing in SDL first. Using OpenGL ES is a lot of work. :) Aug 16 20:56:23 yeah Aug 16 20:56:36 and this is simple, and all in 2d, so hopefully I can just keep it to sdl Aug 16 20:57:04 remember when haptic feedback was all the rage? Aug 16 20:57:10 I remember it like it was just a few years ago... Aug 16 20:57:13 I played around with SDL and got pretty good performance with one surface blitted multiple times and the positioning being done by a physics engine. Aug 16 20:57:27 oh wait! It WAS just a few years ago Aug 16 20:57:47 It's doable, it's just easy to cross the boundaries of what SDL can and can not do on a mobile device. Aug 16 20:58:22 werd Aug 16 20:59:50 I'm definitely thinking of doing my next game in pdk Aug 16 21:00:06 Im making a PDK fart app Aug 16 21:00:19 I thought you were making a PDK tip calculator. :) Aug 16 21:00:33 Too much math for him Aug 16 21:00:41 Farts are so much cooler. Aug 16 21:01:57 * Anivrom|pre farts and laughs like a schoolboy Aug 16 21:01:58 Heheheheheh Aug 16 21:03:11 torchie: Sorry I didn't see your "falls apart?" message. By that I meant performance problems. Aug 16 21:03:27 * sugardave waits for auto-scanning robots to finish their job. Aug 16 21:03:41 oh Aug 16 21:04:16 iHaveUpdated iHaveSpirit Aug 16 21:04:56 I think that all web graphics should be svg Aug 16 21:05:10 haeffb_pre: besides the sentence fragment and the no-button to dismiss, what do you think of the color/look? Aug 16 21:07:54 btw, new update has a much better preferences scene, IMO Aug 16 21:08:04 sugardave: How so? Aug 16 21:08:05 I didn't care for the color... Aug 16 21:08:27 how about style? Aug 16 21:08:44 kesne: because the old one sucked, this one sucks less Aug 16 21:09:14 it's good. just didn't like the blue Aug 16 21:09:31 going to play ball bbl Aug 16 21:09:37 cya Aug 16 21:09:50 Cya Aug 16 21:27:09 dekan: 2+2 Aug 16 21:27:10 maik: 4 Aug 16 21:27:15 dekan: 10**-1 Aug 16 21:27:15 maik: 0.1 Aug 16 21:27:23 dekan: maik*10**-1 Aug 16 21:27:24 I don't know Aug 16 21:27:29 dekan: 2+3*2 Aug 16 21:27:30 sugardave: 8 Aug 16 21:27:33 nice Aug 16 21:27:44 dekan: 20*10**-1 Aug 16 21:27:44 maik: 2 Aug 16 21:27:57 oh now, you still need to float it big man Aug 16 21:28:04 dekan: 20*10**-1.0 Aug 16 21:28:05 maik: 2 Aug 16 21:28:09 dekan: 20.0*10**-1 Aug 16 21:28:10 maik: 2 Aug 16 21:28:12 tsk tsk Aug 16 21:28:23 dekan: 21*10**-1 Aug 16 21:28:24 maik: 2.1 Aug 16 21:31:16 so is the ** = ^ ? Aug 16 21:31:48 will he answer it without getting asked? Aug 16 21:31:57 49845*35-4? Aug 16 21:31:58 2+2*3 Aug 16 21:32:01 nope Aug 16 21:32:09 dekan: worms Aug 16 21:32:10 darn Aug 16 21:32:10 10*20 Aug 16 21:32:11 A thousand apologies, effendi, but I do not understand. Aug 16 21:32:17 dekan: butter Aug 16 21:32:18 Can't talk, zombies! Aug 16 21:32:23 dekan: facebook Aug 16 21:32:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrlSkU0TFLs Aug 16 21:32:50 dekan: reply Aug 16 21:32:51 I don't know Aug 16 21:32:58 dekan: Aug 16 21:32:59 I cannot access that data. Aug 16 21:33:01 boo! Aug 16 21:33:33 Go die in a fire! Aug 16 21:34:00 dekan: alias go die in a fire => die in a fire Aug 16 21:34:00 Okay, maik. Aug 16 21:34:07 dekan: alias diaf => die in a fire Aug 16 21:34:08 Okay, maik. Aug 16 21:34:12 proceed Aug 16 21:34:29 make with the love? Aug 16 21:34:37 jump awn it? Aug 16 21:34:37 dekan: diaf! Aug 16 21:34:38 Oh yea? Why don't I throw your cerulean colored toe into a fire! Aug 16 21:37:27 dekan: bubblegum Aug 16 21:37:28 I came to kick ass and chew bubble gum...and it looks like I'm all out of gum Aug 16 21:38:33 anyone got a quick snip of how to render text with sdl? Aug 16 21:38:54 did you read unwiredben's tutorial? Aug 16 21:39:10 i dont think that renders text, i thought it was just the image Aug 16 21:39:18 altho it was awhile ago when i looked at it Aug 16 21:39:56 i thought it was text? Aug 16 21:39:57 im making a pdk game to learn c and win an envy ;p Aug 16 21:40:19 * sugardave is jealous. Aug 16 21:40:58 yeah bens tut is just rendering an image Aug 16 21:41:01 unless he has a new one Aug 16 21:41:30 hmm Aug 16 21:41:34 macbook touchpad + bandaid'd finget tip = not a cooperative combo Aug 16 21:41:45 dawm|laptop: codeslaw has been fighting with text rendering in SDL. He might be able to help. Aug 16 21:42:02 fighting? great.. hrheh Aug 16 21:42:26 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=5822 Aug 16 21:43:03 thnx Aug 16 21:43:14 see last post Aug 16 21:55:57 CTLAdvance! Aug 16 21:55:58 CTLAdvance eats to escape his problems as \I always do Aug 16 21:58:41 KESNE Aug 16 21:59:20 CTLAdvance: Whats up? Aug 16 21:59:32 nm and you Aug 16 22:02:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MxyOECiPr4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Aug 16 22:02:23 have you guys seen this? lol Aug 16 22:05:04 that's pretty nerdy Aug 16 22:05:38 its funny tho Aug 16 22:06:18 nice Aug 16 22:07:13 howdy folks Aug 16 22:07:43 howdy Aug 16 22:12:01 hallo Aug 16 22:15:27 oh what the hell Aug 16 22:15:38 my third pre better not be pulling this crap again Aug 16 22:15:42 LoneStar99! Aug 16 22:15:50 LoneStar99: How do you do the gradient in Bob? Aug 16 22:17:33 obviously not with css-gradients :) Aug 16 22:19:15 http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/kesne/photos-temp-0jpg-9.jpg Aug 16 22:19:18 Thoughts? Aug 16 22:20:16 pretty clean Aug 16 22:20:51 goodnight everyone Aug 16 22:20:58 Hello Aug 16 22:20:59 night swisstomcat Aug 16 22:22:35 Tibfib: Any thoughts? Aug 16 22:22:58 Looks pretty clean except for those smodges along the edges Aug 16 22:23:17 Tibfib: Smodges? Aug 16 22:23:39 smudges...it looks nice Aug 16 22:23:48 What smudges? Aug 16 22:24:02 kesne: gradient is done in adobe imageready Aug 16 22:24:22 LoneStar99: Not CSS-Gradients? Aug 16 22:24:27 nope Aug 16 22:24:35 LoneStar99: Then how do you change it? Aug 16 22:24:43 multiple images? Aug 16 22:24:51 had never heard of css-gradient until today Aug 16 22:24:58 a transparent gradient Aug 16 22:25:07 and the background changes color Aug 16 22:25:15 LoneStar99: Oh, I get it now Aug 16 22:25:22 is css-gradient cool Aug 16 22:25:32 if you need a sample I can send you one, Aug 16 22:25:50 LoneStar99: I got it Aug 16 22:25:53 BRB Aug 16 22:25:56 ok, cool Aug 16 22:28:54 Robdor: any really good opengl es v2 tuts out there? i really just need 2d primatives Aug 16 22:29:00 might use css-gradient from now on, will test it out Aug 16 22:31:33 alexfner: If you are just using 2d I would suggest 1.1. It's easier to deal with than v2. You can follow along with pretty much any OpenGL tutorial if you are using 1.1 with a few changes. Like using vertex arrays instead of immediate mode. Aug 16 22:32:00 woohoo Aug 16 22:32:06 node modules page was updated Aug 16 22:33:48 Hello what's yall talking about? Aug 16 22:35:10 so could I put the verizon stuff into the regular pre and use that as a developer device? http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/259077-pre-plus-sprint-step-step-conversion-guide.html Aug 16 22:36:10 No Aug 16 22:36:44 no? Couldn't I get two working pre's out of that? pre plus on sprint and pre minus as a developer? Aug 16 22:36:51 (with extra stuff not in the guide) Aug 16 22:38:03 What, a coms board swap? Aug 16 22:38:14 Hell, thats exactly what I did Aug 16 22:38:30 And now you have two working pre's? Aug 16 22:38:38 Sprint Pre Plus and VZW Pre Aug 16 22:38:45 Yeah, they both work Aug 16 22:38:48 I can't see a reason why I couldn't get it to work, just making sure Aug 16 22:38:51 ;D so far.. twaking this code is proving well Aug 16 22:39:12 Gonna run a at&t pre plus with sprint and then use my old sprint pre for developing Aug 16 22:39:25 nice Aug 16 22:39:32 i want to do that Aug 16 22:39:40 I just used the vzw pre plus I got at devdays Aug 16 22:39:50 Heh, I'm gonna use the pre I got from working on spaz Aug 16 22:39:56 nice Aug 16 22:40:15 yeah. excited for double ram and double storage Aug 16 22:41:04 they should give all developers that are on sprint a developer special plus that works on sprint, then we can use our sprint pre's as dev devices Aug 16 22:41:14 i want more ram.. not happy with having to reboot to play a game ;p Aug 16 22:41:53 dawm|laptop I like that idea Aug 16 22:41:57 how much is a dev pre? Aug 16 22:42:16 or.. let me buy a dev plus that works on sprint ;p Aug 16 22:42:32 dawm|laptop: that would be nice Aug 16 22:42:55 anyways back to learning c ;D Aug 16 22:43:11 ayone know how to turn off warnings in xcode? ;p Aug 16 22:43:39 LoneStar99: http://cgi.ebay.com/Palm-Pre-Plus-Verizon-Used-Mint-Condition-CLEAN-ESN-/250683397524?pt=Cell_Phones Aug 16 22:44:30 whoa http://cgi.ebay.com/Palm-Pre-Plus-Verizon-BAD-ESN-PARTS-ONLY-/270621670248?pt=Cell_Phones#ht_500wt_1154 Aug 16 22:44:40 pretty sad.. this code base im tweaking.. i fixed a major issue in it (random pieces) that the original author neglected? Aug 16 22:44:43 hmmm, now that it's been mentioned... i could pick up a BAD pre plus from verizon and swap out the radio, right? Aug 16 22:44:45 pfft, I'd pay $50 for that Aug 16 22:44:47 and i dont know c Aug 16 22:45:02 HattCzech_work: yep Aug 16 22:45:13 * HattCzech_work taps fingers... Aug 16 22:45:17 I wish I knew if this is interesting Aug 16 22:45:33 Palm Pre and pre plus modded into a sprint pre plus Aug 16 22:45:38 its a monster Aug 16 22:45:41 bad phones are useful for something :) Aug 16 22:45:51 its a Palm Pre Plus Minus Aug 16 22:46:12 oh except that one has a broken screen Aug 16 22:46:32 Palm Pre +/- Aug 16 22:46:33 ? Aug 16 22:46:47 yes Aug 16 22:46:51 Palm Pre = Aug 16 22:47:02 magic! Aug 16 22:47:03 Palm Pre ± Aug 16 22:47:04 Palm Pre Pro Aug 16 22:47:09 HattCzech_work's got it Aug 16 22:47:13 I want to go home to work on my api dammit Aug 16 22:47:42 I wish palm would launch a wifi only build for devs Aug 16 22:47:44 Or I could sell my brand new pre plus on ebay... Aug 16 22:48:04 Dekan, status report Aug 16 22:48:05 status report is all systems failing... OH CRAPPPPPPP! Aug 16 22:48:13 weeeee Aug 16 22:48:25 dekan: stats Aug 16 22:48:25 I've been awake since Sat Aug 14 10:01:16 2010 (about 2 days), and was last changed about 4 weeks ago. In that time, I learned 20 new factoids, forgot 1, and found 2 haiku. I know now a total of 278 things about 191 subjects. I know of 110 objects and am carrying 15 of them. Aug 16 22:48:50 * Tibfib gives dekan a dollar Aug 16 22:48:51 Okay, Tibfib. Aug 16 22:49:10 make me a sandwich Aug 16 22:49:12 * dekan makes a sandwich with lots of tooth and bacon. Aug 16 22:49:31 heh Aug 16 22:49:35 BLT Aug 16 22:49:40 heh Aug 16 22:49:41 Bacon, Lettuce and Tooth Aug 16 22:50:33 hrm, getting compiler errors for openGL functions Aug 16 22:50:35 confusing Aug 16 22:50:40 I think I may sell it... so next palm phone is paid for Aug 16 22:51:17 * Tibfib wants the ram and gb's Aug 16 22:51:31 it's got the bigger GBs Aug 16 22:51:45 it fucking prints money Aug 16 22:56:39 dekan, any ideas? Aug 16 22:56:40 shriek it into a shirt and try walking the rough thing until it works Aug 16 23:01:17 Tibfib: how'd you get a new palm pre plus? Aug 16 23:02:46 HattCzech_work: I worked on spaz! http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/08/winners-in-spaz-webos-palm-pre-plus-giveaway/ Aug 16 23:03:14 ahhh, nice Aug 16 23:03:21 if only i had time :( Aug 16 23:05:44 urg... debating if i should drop some cash on a new NAS Aug 16 23:05:57 but i have a feeling they'll be releasing a new model soon... Aug 16 23:08:38 im naming my pdk game 'Its Raining Men' Aug 16 23:09:07 dawm|laptop: nice Aug 16 23:09:13 my nas, a 8U, 6bay SCSI 160 full of 18.2G drives is probably outdated by now eh Aug 16 23:09:23 im kidding Aug 16 23:09:25 makes hell of a heater Aug 16 23:10:04 flea: yeah, is it loud? Aug 16 23:10:19 omg yes, also a 4U alongside it Aug 16 23:10:24 rather ontop of it Aug 16 23:10:26 ok so i want my height automagically created based on the width of my game board in relation to the screen resolution Aug 16 23:10:47 so does this math work right? Aug 16 23:10:56 holds down 20+ lamp's tho :) Aug 16 23:11:06 screen height / ( screen width / desired game board pieces) Aug 16 23:12:31 err stupid math Aug 16 23:15:53 math is hard. Aug 16 23:17:09 hmm Aug 16 23:17:11 my computer Aug 16 23:17:21 is not linking to the openGL library properly...? Aug 16 23:17:40 I mean, I have copied and pasted code from others that doesn't work Aug 16 23:17:51 I love how style matters has these nifty little dark gray arrows to the right of a selector list label, but doesn't explain that it's not part of the widget Aug 16 23:17:58 the compiler returns errors that the commands are not defined, around all openGL commands Aug 16 23:21:20 srsly, this keyboard needs an ac plug? Aug 16 23:22:14 halfhalo, haha Aug 16 23:23:04 my old one doesn't Aug 16 23:23:07 this is bull Aug 16 23:23:46 halfhalo i think i too, would be pissed if i ever came across a kbd that requires ac Aug 16 23:24:39 Its a fancy shmancy gaming one Aug 16 23:24:48 does it have fans or something? Aug 16 23:24:53 lcd screen Aug 16 23:24:57 pffftttt Aug 16 23:25:22 tell me u didnt pay for it Aug 16 23:25:35 This one I did Aug 16 23:25:38 Not the other Aug 16 23:25:54 i'm still on a early 90's compaq' Aug 16 23:25:58 kbd Aug 16 23:26:08 has a nice click Aug 16 23:26:09 haeffb: ping Aug 16 23:26:43 haeffb: I have a sweet idea for Done! Aug 16 23:26:51 but of course i'm supporting hp ..kinda (and walks away) Aug 16 23:30:02 flea: IBM Model M, the one and only! Aug 16 23:30:37 madnificent, i bow to thee, i had to toss mine as it drove everyone around me crazy Aug 16 23:30:56 flea: WHAT?! you should've beaten them with it! Aug 16 23:31:02 i'm just going to go ahead and assume you live in the shell ;) Aug 16 23:31:34 yea me and another co-worker drove them hard in an admin environment, ppl really got annoyed Aug 16 23:31:55 yeah, I can totally understand it :) Aug 16 23:32:17 work productivity was amplified greatly though, especially when you can type to a beat Aug 16 23:33:14 LoL Aug 16 23:33:25 un-arguably tho, yes the best keyboard ever Aug 16 23:33:54 I must admit that I like laptop keyboards too... the hp2710p has a great keyboard Aug 16 23:33:58 what, the pixi? Aug 16 23:34:04 oh laptops Aug 16 23:34:11 yeah laptop keyboards are pretty fly Aug 16 23:34:13 * torchie ducks. Aug 16 23:34:24 LoL Aug 16 23:34:27 T-series Kb FTW Aug 16 23:35:11 T-60 at the time with a model m .. greatness Aug 16 23:35:44 this compaq is the closest thing i could find that keeps a good feed back without annoying neighbors Aug 16 23:36:31 strangely enough it weighs about the same as the ibm but only half the size Aug 16 23:38:39 flea: does it contain a magic doubl-folded IBM model M backplane? that might explain the way it types... Aug 16 23:40:51 madnificent it doesnt have the positive feedback which makes the noise, no it just has a similar feel without the goodness of the model m :( Aug 16 23:40:58 i had to resort to it, sadly Aug 16 23:41:00 good day everyone Aug 16 23:42:09 rb235ftw, its old and cheap (price) but built like a computing weapon Aug 16 23:42:32 rt245btw srry Aug 16 23:42:42 err 235 Aug 16 23:43:34 flea: I used to type on one like that! Aug 16 23:43:54 it's stacked on top of three other model M keyboards here! Aug 16 23:44:03 no way Aug 16 23:44:04 flea: or at least something similar Aug 16 23:44:11 its the next best thing to a model m Aug 16 23:44:14 imo Aug 16 23:44:18 flea: an old one... I think it's from a 486 or an early pentium Aug 16 23:44:32 yes, i do believe this was from a 586 Aug 16 23:44:36 yeah, may well be Aug 16 23:44:53 home-row is faded away, but ... well what would that matter Aug 16 23:45:05 G19 is shiny Aug 16 23:45:07 literally Aug 16 23:45:15 it glows different colors Aug 16 23:45:31 i cant remember the last time i used a usb keyboard, or if i ever have (for more than a day) Aug 16 23:46:25 madnificent if u do have that keyboard, you might keep it around for the next time you get a noise violation with the ibm ;) Aug 16 23:46:46 Tibfib pong Aug 16 23:47:05 flea: I have a separate computer room, but people seem to grow mad when I do a screencast for them or chat with them on the computer :) Aug 16 23:47:06 this one weighs about 8-10lbs Aug 16 23:47:30 haha madnificent Aug 16 23:48:03 home-row fade is my fault (darn armagetron) Aug 16 23:48:34 haeffb: my idea is that you make a tag/category called "alarms" and then users can create times and have items alert at different times Aug 16 23:48:46 and then you won't have the multiple alarms problem Aug 16 23:48:51 you all should become fans of my facebook page so i can get a prettier facebook URL Aug 16 23:49:47 haha i deleted my fb account 1 week prior to the publishing of the public profiles data Aug 16 23:50:44 i wish my coworkers were more tech savy.. i have to fix a coworkers laptop, but id rather be working on my pdk app Aug 16 23:51:02 dawm|laptop: what's your day job? Aug 16 23:51:29 i work for US Airways in Detroit, as a ramp supervisor (the people that actually do all the work :P) Aug 16 23:51:45 hah, that sounds like fun Aug 16 23:51:48 actually i work for a company that works for US Airways.. just a lowly contractor Aug 16 23:51:57 oh, but you don't wave the flashlights? Aug 16 23:52:10 no but my guys do ;p Aug 16 23:52:13 Less cool, but still cool :) Aug 16 23:52:58 heres a taste of what winter is like Aug 16 23:53:00 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs043.snc4/34514_1472388217077_1454804613_1182878_6234945_n.jpg Aug 16 23:53:14 dawm|laptop sucks getting suckered into doing work like that a lot , feel for ya :) Aug 16 23:53:41 heh, fun Aug 16 23:54:07 Tibfib: got rid of multiple alarms...there's only one now Aug 16 23:54:09 heres some bad fog Aug 16 23:54:11 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs575.snc3/31378_1419939052349_1048858191_1276018_2057858_n.jpg Aug 16 23:54:15 that, ladies in gents... is why i will never live in the north or mid-west Aug 16 23:54:18 that is some bad fog Aug 16 23:54:28 hey sometimes we get fog in florida Aug 16 23:54:40 it's an annual event that happens sporadically though :( Aug 16 23:54:51 but it's super cool when you're not the driver and the windows are wide open Aug 16 23:54:55 heh Aug 16 23:54:57 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs029.snc3/11637_1241959242965_1048858191_793331_5331110_n.jpg Aug 16 23:55:03 torchie, ah does the steam not count after the daily hell-storms at 3pm ? Aug 16 23:55:08 thats early in the morn Aug 16 23:55:13 lol, steam Aug 16 23:55:30 I just had one of those hell storms just a couple of hours ago actually Aug 16 23:55:46 maybe we're back in season :D! Aug 16 23:55:50 i dont live in FL but every time i have been get the same 30min storm from hell and then back to extreme sun Aug 16 23:56:33 one nice thing about having non-tech savy friends.. you can bullshit them easily ;p Aug 16 23:56:43 hahaha yea dawm|laptop Aug 16 23:57:00 you can bullshit them easily until AT&T sends your mother an email about you being on IRC being connected to some sort of botnet Aug 16 23:57:05 back to mesing with the PDK ;p Aug 16 23:58:11 its not fun when someone asks u to fix their 'computer' and you notice all of their browsers have 25 toolbars installed Aug 16 23:58:22 instant facepalm moment Aug 16 23:59:59 something about, 'i dont know it just stopped working' Aug 17 00:00:32 hey everyone, I'm trying to launch my app from ares onto my device, and was wondering if I need to install some software to do this or if there's some trick to it. Aug 17 00:02:11 Tibfib: Have you had any issues with runTextIndexer ? Aug 17 00:05:06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDKEC13EEqY Aug 17 00:08:47 haha Aug 17 00:09:25 watch this Aug 17 00:09:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2W12A8Qow&NR=1&feature=fvwp Aug 17 00:10:04 CTLAdvance: Already seen it Aug 17 00:10:11 CTLAdvance: I'm a bit Tay Zonday fan. Aug 17 00:10:14 *big Aug 17 00:10:19 lol Aug 17 00:11:48 haeffb: yeah, but with this method you could have multiple alarms, which is nice. I have stuff I want to get done today, so I want to get reminded in the morning, and then stuff I need to do later, etc. Aug 17 00:11:59 haeffb: no issues really... Aug 17 00:12:12 haeffb: what's the problem? Aug 17 00:12:27 You can add a duetime or starttime to any task and get an alert at that tim. Aug 17 00:12:29 e. Aug 17 00:12:34 oh really? Aug 17 00:12:35 have anybody tried this? Aug 17 00:12:35 http://dustincurtis.com/sleep.html Aug 17 00:12:42 I am trying to go for everyman 4 hour Aug 17 00:13:05 I have a certain text string that causes runTextIndexer to be VERY slow. Aug 17 00:13:54 haeffb: hmm haven't had that issue Aug 17 00:14:03 * Tibfib wants to go for uberman Aug 17 00:14:23 Tibfib: http://www.pastie.org/1096682 Aug 17 00:14:41 look at the time between the "0" before/after and then look at the rest Aug 17 00:14:58 hmmmm Aug 17 00:15:13 * Tibfib would go for uberman if he could nap in school Aug 17 00:15:19 most are 0.01 sec, that one is 1. sec on the emu Aug 17 00:15:31 1.5 sec Aug 17 00:15:44 which translates to 6 or 8 seconds on device Aug 17 00:18:48 Nyceane: is it working? Aug 17 00:18:58 it's not the length of the string... it's some combination of characters that I can't quite figure out. Aug 17 00:20:02 hoo Aug 17 00:20:05 Pendulum is pretty fly Aug 17 00:20:53 Tibfib, duno yet, I'll find out by next week Aug 17 00:21:15 Nyceane: please let me know, I want to try it :) Aug 17 00:21:16 it would really suck with jet lags Aug 17 00:21:41 Tibfib, sure, I need more hours in my life, this would give me 5 more hours everyday Aug 17 00:22:06 I just think it would be sweet to function like that Aug 17 00:22:22 yah, once I am successful, I can go back to normal sleeping schedule Aug 17 00:22:26 but right now I need more time =) Aug 17 00:22:38 I'll just buy bunch of oat meals Aug 17 00:24:10 where can I suggest an addition to the ares documenation? Aug 17 00:31:59 well that was frustrating Aug 17 00:32:14 figuring out how to link a library using xCode, when it's linking the wrong one the whole time Aug 17 00:32:24 made me want to yell, rather loudly Aug 17 00:32:30 loudly? Aug 17 00:32:32 hmm Aug 17 00:43:01 iHaveUpdated again Aug 17 00:43:33 dawm|laptop: siren flasher (2-sides) in place now Aug 17 00:43:39 sweet Aug 17 00:46:37 woe is me Aug 17 00:46:45 openGl, not drawing Aug 17 00:53:36 ...and now it is Aug 17 01:01:30 oh no...is it bad if I can't install my app from the beta feed? :S Aug 17 01:03:34 Whoever created the app done! Really need to iron out some bugs Aug 17 01:04:37 did you email the dev? Aug 17 01:04:57 For some reason all my created task won't show until I'm on the Customs category page. It's ridiculous. It's an B- work Aug 17 01:05:07 did you email the dev? Aug 17 01:06:00 dekan, dyetd is Did you email the dev? Aug 17 01:06:01 Okay, Tibfib. Aug 17 01:06:33 I'm doin that now Aug 17 01:06:36 damn, I just rebooted my phone and now the messaging app won't start Aug 17 01:06:39 weirdness Aug 17 01:06:48 :O Aug 17 01:08:30 there it goes...maybe I was too impatient :D Aug 17 01:08:45 dekan, sugardave is very impatient Aug 17 01:08:46 Okay, Tibfib. Aug 17 01:09:01 Who does make the app Done!? Aug 17 01:09:09 ONE OF US Aug 17 01:09:45 ^apparently he does^ Aug 17 01:09:56 nope Aug 17 01:10:35 You see? he DONE denied it. Aug 17 01:10:37 ugh.. playing around and not committing the source.. ive messed it all up ;p Aug 17 01:11:36 hur Aug 17 01:11:41 isn't it haeffb? Aug 17 01:11:52 yes Aug 17 01:12:03 No haeffb made NOTED app Aug 17 01:12:13 devs can make more than one app you know Aug 17 01:12:21 pro-tip: some devs make more than one app Aug 17 01:12:28 * Tibfib wins Aug 17 01:12:53 Done was almost top notch Aug 17 01:13:13 Noted is dead simple. Simply put Aug 17 01:13:28 palmpreuser1001: there is good help on the done! app Aug 17 01:13:38 decent to good Aug 17 01:13:41 Both are good apps but DONE is the one with the bug Aug 17 01:13:50 lol http://col.hanslanda.com/img/haters-gonna-hate.gif Aug 17 01:15:25 Tibfib: whoa.. Was that intended for me? Aug 17 01:15:34 haha, no Aug 17 01:15:46 Just a funny picture Aug 17 01:15:49 >_> Aug 17 01:16:08 Uh huh. Yeah yeah Aug 17 01:16:13 that was bad timing. Aug 17 01:18:43 DONE was created by tiger county software Aug 17 01:19:32 noted was too Aug 17 01:19:40 dawm|laptop: awwww jeeeeeez! Aug 17 01:19:45 I just got that damn spinner to work Aug 17 01:19:49 lol Aug 17 01:19:58 I forgot what you said about commenting out .delay(1) Aug 17 01:19:59 palmpreuser1001: http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/noted Aug 17 01:20:02 Off the record, where is Tiger County anyway? Aug 17 01:20:18 it's in your heart Aug 17 01:20:21 hahaha Aug 17 01:20:24 Tiger Country is in your heart Aug 17 01:20:39 or Missouri, I can't remember Aug 17 01:20:44 oh Aug 17 01:20:45 that's it Aug 17 01:21:02 Umm...in my heart? That's so gay lol Aug 17 01:21:15 well, that doesn't change it Aug 17 01:22:39 Sugar dave I got a feeling if you was gay you'd be the gayest contributor in this room. No doubt. Mor props to you gay dude. :-D hehehehe Aug 17 01:22:59 thanks? Aug 17 01:22:59 You're welcome, sugardave! Aug 17 01:23:04 botsmack Aug 17 01:23:05 OUCH Aug 17 01:23:05 scoobysnack Aug 17 01:23:06 Scoobydoobeedoo! Aug 17 01:23:42 v=GSvDN_gf6rE Aug 17 01:23:52 We need more gay people. We most def need more sex scandals. Look at HP.. Should we have 1 here? Aug 17 01:24:06 Too? Aug 17 01:24:16 lol Aug 17 01:24:22 * Tibfib goes back to developing... Aug 17 01:24:35 Lmao! Aug 17 01:25:13 Did I scare him off? Oh boy I'm so DONE lol Aug 17 01:25:32 * Anivroom is happy he registered this nick. Aug 17 01:32:23 asdf Aug 17 01:32:28 asdf Aug 17 01:34:11 back from the past Aug 17 01:34:18 what's the deal with the varied delays between a card moving to the center of the screen when throwing one away? Aug 17 01:34:19 who is? Aug 17 01:34:58 it's not like the system locked up or anything, you can still move the cards around Aug 17 01:34:59 And stuff Aug 17 01:35:02 should take the same amount of time, every time Aug 17 01:35:04 torchie: Running cleanup Aug 17 01:35:15 torchie: Has to clean it up Aug 17 01:35:23 well CLEAN HARDER Aug 17 01:36:08 torchie: I suspect it's some kind of nanoglue Aug 17 01:46:26 Hi, did someone notice problems with opengl alpha blending on the pre? It doesn't work quite the same as on my windows pc Aug 17 01:48:12 dude. Aug 17 01:48:48 what Aug 17 01:49:02 not you, dude. The other dude. Aug 17 01:49:10 ok Aug 17 01:49:54 watching hallmart channel Aug 17 01:50:23 they're called "filters" Aug 17 01:50:35 they keep your tasks from showing if they match one of the "filters" Aug 17 01:50:48 hahaha Aug 17 01:53:36 I think from now on, my response is simply, "You're doing it wrong." Aug 17 01:53:46 that usually works Aug 17 01:53:47 you need more gbs Aug 17 01:53:54 and wifis Aug 17 01:53:59 no Aug 17 01:54:02 its and the wifis Aug 17 01:54:06 THE wifis Aug 17 01:54:08 sigh Aug 17 01:54:16 I only watched it once :P Aug 17 01:54:19 hah Aug 17 01:55:12 anyone here have a kindle? Aug 17 01:55:28 soo i totally borked my pdk app.. c++ is so picky.. having to make header files for my source files is rather annoying, so i did away with them, but then i reworked a function and borked everything, thankfully i remember everything i did to the original source so i can try again tomorrow ;p Aug 17 01:55:54 i wish i would have tossed a test binary on my pre to see if it even wrked Aug 17 01:56:20 these kinds of stories do not give me a warm/fuzzy feeling Aug 17 01:56:29 dawm|laptop: that sucks, C++ does seem abit picky Aug 17 01:56:41 yah and i dont know c at all ;p Aug 17 01:56:46 kinda wingning it Aug 17 01:58:06 yeah want to build a PDK app, but do not have time right now ... would have to learn everything Aug 17 02:00:11 whoa Aug 17 02:00:23 rahul is trying out overclocking Aug 17 02:00:25 sweeet Aug 17 02:00:41 maybe he'll realize how much nicer it is and tell hp people to get their butts in gear Aug 17 02:01:56 off to bedz Aug 17 02:02:02 fixed my alpha blending :) Aug 17 02:03:02 ANIVROOM Aug 17 02:03:13 CTLAdvance: Yes? Aug 17 02:03:34 :) Aug 17 02:03:41 dekan, anivroom Aug 17 02:03:42 So's your face. Aug 17 02:03:56 anivroom is the real anivrom Aug 17 02:04:07 dekan, anivroom is the real anivrom Aug 17 02:04:08 Okay, CTLAdvance. Aug 17 02:05:18 anivrom is a fake Aug 17 02:07:47 i thought kindle books where like $10.00 bucks, but it seems that freebsd books for kindle are still like $38.00 bucks Aug 17 02:12:23 How much is a blackberry bold 9700 worth :/ Aug 17 02:12:51 LoneStar - kindle novels are like 10, text/informational are still expensive Aug 17 02:13:03 but thats based on the author Aug 17 02:13:15 some texts I have seen for 14.99 Aug 17 02:16:58 CTLAdvance: like programming books for $14.99? Aug 17 02:17:42 Yeah programming books are hit or miss. I look at the kindle prices as I am trying to justify the dx... Aug 17 02:17:56 I just bought one for 40, and its kindle price was 14.99 Aug 17 02:17:59 thinking of getting a kindle in the future, would be pimp to have all sort of manuals in one little device =) Aug 17 02:18:06 wow Aug 17 02:18:12 Thats exactly what I was thinking Aug 17 02:18:26 esp like quick ref. As I cant remember everything Aug 17 02:18:43 wip out some in depth java or c refference Aug 17 02:18:57 instead of wasting alot of time web searching, simply search manuals, and tech books in kindle =) Aug 17 02:19:12 yeah Aug 17 02:19:26 I usually go right to books, unless I know exactly what I am looking for Aug 17 02:19:31 they are all sold out though =( waiting list for the kindle... Aug 17 02:19:36 so if I could search th ebooks on the kindle.... Aug 17 02:19:43 dx? Aug 17 02:19:45 yeah, Aug 17 02:19:49 ORLY Aug 17 02:19:51 all Aug 17 02:20:05 Oh come on, the 400 dollar dx is sold out? Aug 17 02:20:11 * CTLAdvance opens amazon Aug 17 02:20:26 I heart my dx Aug 17 02:20:42 oh not sure about the DX, the new 139 wifi is sold =out Aug 17 02:21:07 yeah Aug 17 02:21:09 DX is in stock Aug 17 02:21:10 thats not the dx Aug 17 02:21:22 the new kindle 9.7" dx = 379.99 Aug 17 02:21:27 free 3g world wide +) Aug 17 02:21:29 =) Aug 17 02:21:34 Thats in stock Aug 17 02:21:46 yeah was thinking of the 3G 6" for my wife Aug 17 02:21:53 damn same i am not a world - traveller yet Aug 17 02:21:59 damn shame Aug 17 02:22:54 yeah that is what i would get the 3G 6 Aug 17 02:22:57 $189 Aug 17 02:23:01 sold out =( Aug 17 02:23:19 bah Aug 17 02:23:21 do the dx Aug 17 02:24:12 lol Aug 17 02:24:52 not sure if $379 is worth my investment, $189 forsure is Aug 17 02:25:04 do it Aug 17 02:25:06 just do it Aug 17 02:25:09 come on, do it Aug 17 02:25:09 lol Aug 17 02:25:13 :) Aug 17 02:27:30 last time i stocked up on programming books, my ex girlfriend threw them out, with the kindle that won't happen again Aug 17 02:28:50 she Aug 17 02:28:53 threw them out? Aug 17 02:29:19 php, freebsd, shell, mysql and a few others - in the bin Aug 17 02:29:28 or maybe donated to library... Aug 17 02:31:59 I would have beaten her Aug 17 02:32:04 .... er Aug 17 02:32:14 were they out dated? Aug 17 02:32:26 "Ok thanks for pointing that out." Aug 17 02:32:30 I cam into that at an ackward time... Aug 17 02:32:39 I mean, thats not even an option Aug 17 02:32:43 Apparently my notes app is too simple and the tasks app is too complicated Aug 17 02:33:17 what is going on in here? I am confusssssssed... Aug 17 02:33:23 dammit haeffb Aug 17 02:33:32 LoneStar99 GF threw out his programming books Aug 17 02:33:40 I need to find a happy medium Aug 17 02:33:41 that's okay, the more I think about that guy and his Utah Utes comment, the more irritated I get Aug 17 02:33:57 he called sugardave gay...hahaha Aug 17 02:34:14 sugardave: TWO guys Aug 17 02:34:18 I think he was trying to start some shit Aug 17 02:34:20 both were wanting Utes Aug 17 02:34:37 I think the 2nd one had it...he gave me 4 stars Aug 17 02:34:40 sugardave: have seen the Utes kick San Diego State Aztecs at Qualcomm, boy was it sad Aug 17 02:35:25 LoneStar99: they're in my app...they are in the MWC conference...I guess this guy thought it was 2011, looked at wherever they were going to be and decided I hadn't included them Aug 17 02:35:39 I mean, yeah...I spent all that time making teams, but I missed that one Aug 17 02:35:43 mmhmm Aug 17 02:36:20 sugardave: that suck, i do not like the Utes, Aug 17 02:36:26 that sucks Aug 17 02:37:23 oh well, nothing I can do...he's either going to find them and give me my 5 stars he promised or he won't Aug 17 02:37:49 test Aug 17 02:37:53 fail Aug 17 02:37:55 am i online? Aug 17 02:38:09 you are live Aug 17 02:38:23 or are you memorex? Aug 17 02:38:26 http://www.pastie.org/1096860 Aug 17 02:38:27 codeslaw: I don't see your messages Aug 17 02:39:07 Tibfib: roger that, my connection must be dead Aug 17 02:39:16 codeslaw: probably Aug 17 02:39:18 the commented lines run in under 0.1 sec Aug 17 02:39:25 the uncommented lines run in 8 sec. Aug 17 02:40:18 but I can't for the life of me figure out what the hell is causing it. Aug 17 02:40:29 this is crap, IRC works fine, but i can't hit any web pages Aug 17 02:40:30 I remove all the "special characters" from this string Aug 17 02:40:37 anyone have t-mobile Aug 17 02:40:39 no help. Aug 17 02:41:06 codeslaw: you are in the 4th dimension Aug 17 02:41:20 the crappiest one, apparently Aug 17 02:41:55 lol - need to upgrade your 4D experience Aug 17 02:43:29 seriously Aug 17 02:43:53 kesne : u around? Aug 17 02:44:25 depressing, this Aug 17 02:44:43 codeslaw: what vile place are you in? Aug 17 02:44:59 i'm near 183/290, on earthlink Aug 17 02:45:20 and they are blocking web traffic? that's a little harsh Aug 17 02:45:26 so it would appear Aug 17 02:45:36 google.com times out after 3 minutes at 50% Aug 17 02:45:40 ... Aug 17 02:46:09 codeslaw: how long has it been happening for? Aug 17 02:46:15 10 minutes Aug 17 02:46:59 brb resetting modem/router again Aug 17 02:47:05 I bet the cops are on their way to kill somebody with their dashbaord cams off...and they've shut down all web access to keep people from uploading videos Aug 17 02:47:05 might be a infrastructure issue Aug 17 02:47:12 or maybe not Aug 17 02:47:20 lol Aug 17 02:48:13 well folks Aug 17 02:48:15 I am learning pdk Aug 17 02:48:18 it has happened Aug 17 02:48:21 and it doesn't take long Aug 17 02:48:26 but it does build a bit of frustration Aug 17 02:49:49 alexfner: read this link has alot of samples that can be used in PDK http://www.libsdl.org/ Aug 17 02:50:33 LoneStar99: ofcourse I've seen that! Aug 17 02:50:49 I've check out just about everything there is! Aug 17 02:52:24 * sugardave gives dekan something alexfner has not seen Aug 17 02:52:24 Okay, sugardave. Aug 17 02:52:30 dekan: inventory Aug 17 02:52:31 I am carrying a towel, the Hoe of Destruction, a big bunch of beautiful bananas, a swift kick in the ass, madnificent's word, balls of steel, the Duke Nukem Soundboard IPK, the latest build of Duke Nukem Forever, Kesne Frozen in a solid block of Carbonite, the promise of a new day, pie, the Evil Eye, SVG support for webOS, lightning speed and cat-like reflexes, a dead mouse, a dollar, and something alexfner has not seen. Aug 17 02:53:00 alexfner: was it useful? Aug 17 02:53:12 * alexfner gives dekan sugardave's soul Aug 17 02:53:12 Okay, alexfner. Aug 17 02:53:17 dekan: inventory Aug 17 02:53:18 ACTION contains a towel, the Hoe of Destruction, a big bunch of beautiful bananas, a swift kick in the ass, madnificent's word, balls of steel, the Duke Nukem Soundboard IPK, the latest build of Duke Nukem Forever, Kesne Frozen in a solid block of Carbonite, the promise of a new day, pie, the Evil Eye, SVG support for webOS, lightning speed and cat-like reflexes, a dead mouse, a dollar, something alexfner has not seen, and s Aug 17 02:53:21 sugardave has no soul. Aug 17 02:53:27 dekan: be careful, Satan is coming for that one day Aug 17 02:53:28 Okay, sugardave. Aug 17 02:53:29 becuase I own it Aug 17 02:53:32 doh Aug 17 02:53:35 lol Aug 17 02:53:41 dekan, be careful, satan? Aug 17 02:53:42 be careful, satan is coming for that one day Aug 17 02:53:47 hahaha Aug 17 02:54:15 LoneStar99: Useful, but not by itself, and mostly no. SDL isn't that hard, OpenGL ES 1.1 is very difficult, not well document. I am learning from the specification documents Aug 17 02:55:15 alexfner: ok yeah have only gotten the sample PDK app working Aug 17 02:55:50 but there is something very useful about reading a specification **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 17 02:59:57 2010