**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 28 02:59:57 2010 Aug 28 03:13:33 ugh Aug 28 03:13:38 rewriting settings isn't fun Aug 28 03:13:45 I wish I had done this right in the first place Aug 28 03:19:43 kesne: yeap doing right the first time always pays off Aug 28 03:19:53 Yeah Aug 28 03:19:56 I did this a year ago Aug 28 03:20:43 I don't remember what most of this does Aug 28 03:21:05 yeah, rewrote code, from 2007 Aug 28 03:21:30 is it JS or php? Aug 28 03:22:13 if i had to look at webos app code a year later, i would be screwed... it looks so cryptic Aug 28 03:40:22 anyone around who can test Preware 1.3.0 from the testing feed Aug 28 03:41:28 rwhitby: I might can look. What do you need me to do? Aug 28 03:41:46 just see if it appears in the Default Applications list Aug 28 03:42:00 (just update it from the testing feed) Aug 28 03:42:15 uno momento. Aug 28 03:42:40 Roy-Pre101: getting ready for Neato! integration, so you guys can have a "Send to Preware on your phone" button on your app gallery Aug 28 03:43:08 Hmmmmmm Aug 28 03:44:45 I thought I had testing feeds set up on this phone but I don't see 1.3.0 It should show up, neh? Aug 28 03:45:19 should do Aug 28 03:45:23 searched all for 'preware', only shows the 1.2.7 Aug 28 03:45:45 have the webos-testing-all feed added. Aug 28 03:45:54 That the right one? Aug 28 03:55:11 need /all and /armv7 URLs for testing feed for Pre Aug 28 03:56:20 * rwhitby bbl Aug 28 03:57:23 * kesne considers contributing to webOS world Aug 28 04:01:36 * kesne now things about buying webOS World Aug 28 04:03:54 * kesne realizes he has an addiction to buying things Aug 28 04:05:49 kesne: this is a chat room. you're supposed to be talking to other ppl, not your subconscious.. Aug 28 04:06:27 i think thats just a practice. not a hard fast rule tho.. Aug 28 04:06:44 :'( Aug 28 04:06:53 irc in 2010... Aug 28 04:07:12 if it helps you think it thro by all means tho Aug 28 04:07:24 I does help me think thro! Aug 28 04:08:26 $L("Night All"); // don't forget to change this.. Aug 28 04:11:54 hi all! Aug 28 04:12:03 Hey JenP Aug 28 04:12:12 hi kesne! Aug 28 04:12:13 !!! Aug 28 04:12:16 Whats up? Aug 28 04:12:17 lol Aug 28 04:12:23 not much. you? Aug 28 04:18:48 I'm just thinking Aug 28 04:19:28 ... about white pants Aug 28 04:19:53 nah....puppies...he's thinking about puppies Aug 28 04:20:06 No, oil was right Aug 28 04:20:10 lol Aug 28 04:20:19 damn...maybe i'm thinking of puppies Aug 28 04:20:20 thinking about how he spilt catchup on them Aug 28 04:20:21 * kesne loves all of you Aug 28 04:20:29 lol Aug 28 04:20:35 oil: Good think I bought three pairs... Aug 28 04:20:43 oh shit Aug 28 04:20:49 ? Aug 28 04:21:40 ok guys...off topic but these things are incredible.... Aug 28 04:21:42 http://www.tide.com/en-US/accessory/scented-hanger-pendants.jspx Aug 28 04:22:43 Cool Aug 28 04:22:51 oil: They were $10 Aug 28 04:23:05 they smell soo good. but hard to find in stores Aug 28 04:23:46 Is it weird that if I was a woman, I'd be Ellen Page? Aug 28 04:23:59 whose that? Aug 28 04:24:18 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ellen+Page Aug 28 04:25:09 also: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ Aug 28 04:25:10 good actress Aug 28 04:25:28 hmm? Aug 28 04:26:24 LoneStar99: I agree Aug 28 04:35:18 Roy-Pre101: get it installed? Aug 28 04:40:24 rwhitby: Hmm, not yet. Aug 28 04:40:50 Roy-Pre101: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Aug 28 04:41:09 yep, going to double-check my settings. Aug 28 04:41:26 don't think you can edit a feed, have to delete and re-add, yes? Aug 28 04:42:19 Roy-Pre101: may help to add-delete instead Aug 28 04:43:15 Roy-Pre101: yes, you have to delete and re-add Aug 28 04:45:01 That may explain why I couldn't get freetether installed. Aug 28 04:47:12 Roy-Pre101: yes, that would prevent most of the good WebOS Internals apps Aug 28 04:47:50 Roy-Pre101: just hooked you up with the Neato! guy in email Aug 28 04:47:57 editing feeds would be nice tho Aug 28 04:48:03 Thanks Aug 28 04:48:25 internalz works for that i suppose Aug 28 04:49:14 Robi_: considering feeds are something you add once and then never touch again other than enabling and disabling, it's hardly worth the effort. Aug 28 04:49:41 It helps to teach people to be precise too ;) Aug 28 04:49:43 typos happen, accidental taps too Aug 28 04:49:50 heh Aug 28 04:50:39 just have some feed files available for download and preware able to use them Aug 28 04:50:55 or perhaps have them be installable Aug 28 04:51:16 If only there was a way to put an app in the app catalog which enabled the testing feeds in Preware. then I could charge $20 for it and keep the testing feeds for those that are really keen to do the testing ;) Aug 28 04:51:46 but what if were keen AND lazy? Aug 28 04:51:59 you can still do that, just gotta set up the payment system ;] Aug 28 04:52:23 Robi_: I'm too lazy to do something like that ... Aug 28 04:52:50 that's erroneous self perception Aug 28 04:53:00 just look at what you've accomplished so far Aug 28 04:53:16 * rwhitby bbl - time to beat angry birds 4-12 Aug 28 04:53:20 lol Aug 28 04:53:25 I beat like 2 levels Aug 28 04:53:25 and i'm on /ignore Aug 28 04:53:47 i'm bummed the free ver isn't avail Aug 28 04:54:21 it's $2! Aug 28 04:54:55 lol Aug 28 04:56:39 ha, 3 stars. take that piggies Aug 28 04:56:59 i have it on the ipod Aug 28 04:57:01 * rwhitby bbl Aug 28 04:59:33 rwhitby: It's downloading Aug 28 05:41:30 HAI Aug 28 05:53:38 LoneStar99: Hey bud Aug 28 05:55:47 angry birds 1-7 sucks Aug 28 06:06:16 altho the ipod free ver is diff Aug 28 06:09:30 er lite Aug 28 06:09:42 Morning Aug 28 06:22:30 Can some one tell me what this means: Error: Error: Caught exception in List widget 'listWidget' setup(): TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of object, palmInitFramework338:2520 Aug 28 06:23:24 It means your list widget is empty Aug 28 06:23:25 I think Aug 28 06:24:51 That is correct Aug 28 06:25:00 I don't bind anything to it in the start Aug 28 06:25:12 Is that a problem? Aug 28 06:26:01 Nope Aug 28 06:26:04 Don't believe so Aug 28 06:26:11 My apps have the same errors Aug 28 06:26:24 I ignore them, but I would ask somebody else to be sure Aug 28 06:26:54 it sounds right. Aug 28 06:27:12 because if i don't bind "nothing" the error is not there Aug 28 06:28:29 items: [] solves it.. Aug 28 06:34:56 Ah alright Aug 28 06:35:03 Well, I'm not going to do that Aug 28 06:35:07 * kesne is much too lazy Aug 28 06:37:28 lol Aug 28 06:37:39 * kesne slaps oil for loling Aug 28 06:37:58 * oil lols @ wussy slap Aug 28 06:38:16 :) Aug 28 06:56:57 oil: http://git.webos-internals.org/trac/preware/browser/app/assistants/screenshots-assistant.js?rev=e15968fd9af6c8a23607fd6676cb1ed20d6af36f&order=date&desc=1 is that you? Aug 28 06:57:33 looks like it Aug 28 06:57:42 checked in by oil Aug 28 06:57:51 Why can't my list display html? Aug 28 06:57:56 oil: You sure it wasn't oiI Aug 28 06:57:58 ;) i gonna rip it Aug 28 06:58:07 * oil expects cookies :) Aug 28 06:58:58 So why can't a list display HTML? Aug 28 07:08:28 it can Aug 28 07:08:34 put a - in your template values Aug 28 07:45:48 Im out Aug 28 07:45:49 later all Aug 28 08:13:01 hmm Aug 28 08:13:20 i have an img, how do i add an click event on the image? Aug 28 08:16:04 ahh Tap not onclick i see Aug 28 08:19:25 weird - i read the SDK license agreement on location based service APIs (I presume the GPS) as to not allow mapping apps which might allow openstreetmaps. is this normal? Aug 28 08:19:51 normal in the sense of : "am i reading it right?" Aug 28 10:40:08 hey Aug 28 13:08:14 Hey maik, you're there? Aug 28 13:29:14 good morning, #webos Aug 28 13:35:49 morning all Aug 28 13:52:41 Hi all (: Aug 28 13:57:50 I got a question to anyone. :p Aug 28 13:58:06 Seriously, could the reason for a touchscreen bash be preware or the messenger addon ? Aug 28 13:58:23 (With bash I mean a defect) Aug 28 14:07:40 Hm, nobody? :/ Aug 28 14:07:44 haeffb? ^^ Aug 28 14:12:43 very unlikely Aug 28 14:13:30 Thanks. Aug 28 14:13:49 I'm quite new as Pré user and after 2 days a defect Pré isn't that nice Aug 28 14:13:52 but got now a new one. Aug 28 14:19:06 schalla what sort of defect? Aug 28 14:19:13 Touchscreen only. Aug 28 14:19:27 Tried to fix it even with WebOS Doctor no effect. Aug 28 14:24:39 Why you ask LoneStar99=? Aug 28 14:46:19 schalla Aug 28 14:46:32 what does the touch screen do or not do? Aug 28 14:47:10 Well, short: Nothing. Aug 28 14:47:12 That was yesterday. Aug 28 14:47:20 I was today again in the o2 store and they gave me a new one Aug 28 14:47:23 I tried softreset Aug 28 14:47:24 hardreset Aug 28 14:47:29 webosdoctor Aug 28 14:47:36 USB Power Aug 28 14:47:39 And so on. Aug 28 14:48:10 weird... seems like o2 issue Aug 28 14:48:45 Don't know, was just kinda shocked because it was new. Aug 28 14:49:04 And now I got some fear that it's happen again when I install preware & Messenger Update :X Aug 28 14:50:25 Schalla: yeah not sure... all i know is my messenger app update will be released in 24hrs http://uoid.me/bc1 Aug 28 14:51:49 ICQ is workin? (: Aug 28 14:52:47 This is my main problem, I want ICQ on the Pre. Aug 28 14:52:58 And with the messenger update this works, but w/o not. ^^ Aug 28 14:54:07 hello everybody, I own a Palm Pre for 5 days, now, and it is really nice to use. Also installed some Preware, but today the Pre doesn't log in to my provider any more. Aug 28 14:54:22 Schalla: oh i see, i like ICQ, just have not used it in about 5+ years Aug 28 14:54:24 I checked the SIM card with another phone, this works. Aug 28 14:54:39 Maybe anybody know what the reason might be? Aug 28 14:55:12 Everything else is working, but after restart etc., there is no "Enter PIN" dialog. Instead, phone settings are displayed, first entry missing any phone number. Aug 28 14:55:51 I cannot enter anything there, but when I close that dialog, the phone says, only SOS, SIM locked (upper right corner) Aug 28 14:56:05 Everything else including WLAN works like a charm Aug 28 14:56:23 SIM contacts are still displayd, so the card itself is read. Aug 28 14:56:45 It just lacks the step to log in/auth at O2 provider. Aug 28 14:56:58 RalfG: what was the last thing u installed or did before it stopped working properly? Aug 28 14:57:19 Nothing, I used the phone during the day, so I phoned, then wrote a SMS. Aug 28 14:57:37 Then I used the browser, as well. But nothing like updates or installings Aug 28 14:58:24 I tried restarting Luna, removing the SIM, updating software... Aug 28 14:58:50 If this is a known problem, it could be easier for me if I could "name" it (like SIM lock for a card) Aug 28 14:59:40 The day before, I installed Preware and some minor patches, and of course, I turned devmod on. Aug 28 15:01:07 RalfG: yeah, not sure, Schalla is also having issues with his pre from o2 Aug 28 15:01:31 I wonder if I should try webdoctor (or internal options) to reset to factory defaults, or if I should take the phone to the shop. Aug 28 15:01:53 In the latter case they would probably send it to HP and I had to wait a lot. Aug 28 15:02:27 Schalla: can you still enter your PIN? Aug 28 15:02:36 Is there a special command to evoke the PIN dialog? Aug 28 15:03:02 Or is just the palm cloud having overload? Aug 28 15:04:09 hey, repaired Aug 28 15:04:21 or maybe this is just a repeating bug? Aug 28 15:04:34 Sorry, I was afk Aug 28 15:04:56 this time I fixed it this way: I didn't close the phone settings, just made it small, then I went to flight mode and back. Aug 28 15:05:07 and voila, the pin dialogue went back... Aug 28 15:05:13 @RalfG: My whole touchscreen wasn't avaible Aug 28 15:05:29 Sp Aug 28 15:05:30 So Aug 28 15:05:33 complete not working Aug 28 15:05:56 Schalla: different issue, are you using any display covers? are your fingers too cold, maybe, or do you wear gloves? Aug 28 15:06:51 or, are you possibly a robot or android (scnr) ;) Aug 28 15:07:28 ;) Aug 28 15:07:37 Well my problem is fixed Aug 28 15:07:41 Was today at the store Aug 28 15:07:43 And well - No Aug 28 15:07:50 My fingers wasnt too cold and gloves also not Aug 28 15:07:52 so, what did they do there? Aug 28 15:08:01 ...Gave me a new one Aug 28 15:08:01 ;) Aug 28 15:08:08 It's only 3 days it Aug 28 15:08:09 :p Aug 28 15:08:32 *old Aug 28 15:08:41 mine is from monday, but I assume they wouldn't give me a new one nor replace it by another make/brand Aug 28 15:08:51 Where are you from? Aug 28 15:08:55 Germayn Aug 28 15:09:00 ny Aug 28 15:09:59 German on // Hab meins im Centroo in Oberhausen geholt, die meinten die geben mir nen neuen mit, weil es erst.. ich meine 3 tage alt ist, 5 tage frist oder sowas in der Richtung gabs da. Musste halt nur das komplette paket abgeben // German off. Aug 28 15:10:02 Sorry folks :p Aug 28 15:10:03 but when the problem comes back, I might try. Aug 28 15:10:59 Schalla: 5 days. that's today, but would they give me yet another brand (but which one, to be honest, they don't have the N900= Aug 28 15:12:08 * RalfG will keep listening, but afk Aug 28 15:13:15 Well I just get another Pre Aug 28 15:13:15 :P Aug 28 15:27:29 Q: what is the easiest way to open the keyboard (Pre)? Push or pull? Aug 28 15:27:42 I am still a bit clumsy with this. Aug 28 15:28:10 I noticed, that when calling with closed keyboard, after dialing, the displays goes dark. Aug 28 15:28:22 then I have to open the keyboard to hang up. Aug 28 15:28:51 the display should only go dark when you hold the phone up to your face OR the timer kicked in Aug 28 15:29:02 pessing the power button once should bring the screen back Aug 28 15:29:09 then you can hang up with the screen Aug 28 15:34:31 k, I didn't remove the display saver, so this might be the reason (I read this somewher). Still: do you push or pull your kb out? Aug 28 15:38:05 RalfG: I hold the back in my hand, and push the top up with my thumb Aug 28 15:40:44 same here Aug 28 15:48:59 sorry, I was disconnected shortly, what "same here"? Aug 28 15:50:15 my DSL runs at 100kbit today, probably o2 has told arcor that we decided to change our ISP Aug 28 15:51:47 * RalfG sigh Aug 28 15:54:31 RalfG: I hold the back in my hand, and push the top up with my thumb Aug 28 15:54:35 @knoppix Aug 28 15:54:56 @RalfG Aug 28 15:54:56 :D Aug 28 15:55:41 Sedorox: dou you use the nail of the thumb? My thumb tends to slide over the shallo slope of the upper part. Aug 28 15:56:21 Hence I drag where the phone opening is, meant to be paced on to your ear. Aug 28 15:57:44 Maybe mine is too new, but I just realised that you can also hold the back on its upper side Aug 28 15:59:24 yet another question regarding preware apps. Some I installed, don't show up as icon, like the bourne shell. Others like navit show up, but nothing happens when pressed Aug 28 16:03:18 RalfG: well, it helps I do have a Zagg InvisibleSheild on it.. which adds some grip... but before I had that, I would push with my thumb from the bottom, with it I just do about middle Aug 28 16:03:27 sp Aug 28 16:10:42 @Sedorox: Ever heard of the problem that the Silence Mode won't work? Aug 28 16:17:20 I know in certain instances, some reminders will ignore the silence mode, and still go off... Aug 28 16:17:26 but I haven't run into them myself Aug 28 16:18:29 other then that, my previous pre (before I got a replacement due to the power button going wanky) started getting an issue where it would sometimes switching between being active and not, when the switch was suppose to be on silent Aug 28 16:18:52 http://krautchan.net/files/1283010579001.jpg Aug 28 16:18:54 Whops Aug 28 16:18:54 >_> Aug 28 16:19:05 Wrong copy and past. Aug 28 16:19:13 PORN! Aug 28 16:19:14 j/k Aug 28 16:19:18 lol, not Aug 28 16:19:31 Well, I try to turn it on Aug 28 16:19:32 I know, I clicked Aug 28 16:19:38 but it just won't work :o Aug 28 16:19:42 Tried it by calling Aug 28 16:19:49 Please not a second defect one - meh -.- Aug 28 16:19:54 try pressing down on it Aug 28 16:19:58 ok Aug 28 16:20:01 Restarting it first Aug 28 16:20:54 Nothing. Aug 28 16:21:39 not sure what to say Aug 28 16:21:57 Also. Aug 28 16:23:03 Don't know, could be a software bug also Aug 28 16:23:04 but hm Aug 28 16:26:05 Google also don't help Aug 28 16:26:06 >_> Aug 28 16:29:34 bye, ta Aug 28 16:30:22 my hands are numb...finally got around to trimming the bushes today. I wonder how many typos I will have today :D Aug 28 16:32:13 Sugardave, you got a clue? :/ Aug 28 16:32:22 about? Aug 28 16:32:53 My sound on-off Button won't react. Aug 28 16:33:00 Is there some standard way to check if te device has net connction? like the popup "turn on wifi" my app uses json content from the net and will only work if it has connection.. Aug 28 16:33:13 Schalla: the mute switch? or the volume button? Aug 28 16:33:19 Mute switch Aug 28 16:33:51 hotdp: there is a connection manager service you can query that returns basic network available status Aug 28 16:34:21 Schalla: hmmm, no...I have some weirdness sometimes when I turn the sound off via switch, then back on, sometimes the system sounds don't work Aug 28 16:34:31 I have a week-1 Pre, so it may be alittle odd :D Aug 28 16:35:21 :D Aug 28 16:35:27 Hm crap :/ Aug 28 16:35:31 I got a 1 day old Aug 28 16:35:39 my 3 day old got a fuck'ed touchscreen Aug 28 16:35:41 and now this shit. Aug 28 16:35:42 Hell. Aug 28 16:35:43 I usually reboot at some point and things are working again Aug 28 16:36:24 Already tried Aug 28 16:38:39 -.-' Aug 28 16:38:46 I tried the Interactive test. Aug 28 16:38:52 well, they don't do anything Aug 28 16:48:00 So finally, another defect Pré. Aug 28 16:48:02 1 after 3 days Aug 28 16:48:05 1 after a half day Aug 28 16:48:07 perfect Aug 28 16:48:07 ^^ Aug 28 17:08:09 sugardave:thanks :) Aug 28 17:18:51 @sugardave: Well, that might be shit that the Switch won't work, but I can still mute it over the volume switch. Aug 28 17:19:02 Maybe not such fast, but It's okay if I'm in school or sth. else. Aug 28 18:54:22 rwhitby: Personally, I think setting up a default application for .ipk files without the user enabling it is a security hole. Aug 28 19:22:37 omg why won't this damn canvas clear?! Aug 28 19:23:39 Roy-Pre101: like http://i37.tinypic.com/2utg64z.png ? Aug 28 19:24:37 Roy-Pre101: note that there is no way that an .ipk gets installed (either in Preware or Internalz) without a subsequent user confirmation screen occurring beforehand for each package. Aug 28 19:25:43 Roy-Pre101: and we are enhancing Preware to display the full package details (extracted from the ipkg control file) to the user before they confirm. We also have plans for noting to the user whether the package has been signed or not, and whether it is a valid signature from a trusted devloper. Aug 28 19:28:12 rwhitby: Yep, that's good. I didn't see it with 1.3.0 Aug 28 19:28:26 Although, I guess it doesn't say why you would or would not want it to be the .ipk handler. Aug 28 19:34:38 Roy-Pre101: we assume that people who are going to install random .ipk files will know why they are doing it Aug 28 19:34:48 Since 99% of people will just install stuff from feeds. Aug 28 19:35:32 Roy-Pre101: the code for the screen above is in 1.3.0, but only comes into play if there is another app with the association. I guess what you are saying is that it should always be displayed the first time that the association is set. Aug 28 19:35:46 Roy-Pre101: have you made the same request to Jason for Internalz? Aug 28 19:36:09 (including the .patch functionality it has, which could also be used for trojan infection) Aug 28 19:37:57 Hey all Aug 28 19:38:10 oil: Hey, you mentioned I could do html stuff in lists yesterday? Aug 28 19:41:04 kesne: of course, that's what the list item template is Aug 28 19:41:14 no, to real problems Aug 28 19:41:15 now Aug 28 19:41:46 sugardave: Yeah, but when I populate it with my list content, if the content is HTML, it doesn't render Aug 28 19:41:57 I have this.timerId = setInterval(...); but when I call clearInterval(this.timerId); in deactivate it won't clear Aug 28 19:42:01 kesne Aug 28 19:42:02 kesne Aug 28 19:42:06 it's like this Aug 28 19:42:13 #{-htmlProperty} Aug 28 19:42:17 it's the - Aug 28 19:42:21 gotta have the dash Aug 28 19:42:22 oh Aug 28 19:42:24 thanks Aug 28 19:42:37 now, fix my problem Aug 28 19:42:43 Hmm Aug 28 19:42:50 Try ditching the this. Aug 28 19:43:10 but it gets set in a different function, so I need to reference it somewhere Aug 28 19:43:45 Why would removing the this. remove that ability? Aug 28 19:44:07 well, it's either use a this.property or a global var Aug 28 19:44:33 because if I say var timerId in the function I set up the interval, timerId won't exist in deactivate Aug 28 19:45:12 Then make it global Aug 28 19:45:37 And in your deactivate, just clean it up Aug 28 19:45:59 the point is, this.timerId does have a value associated with it, so you're supposed to be able to pass that value to clearInterval to make it stop Aug 28 19:46:02 not happening Aug 28 19:46:14 Heh Aug 28 19:46:23 Did you try/catch it? Aug 28 19:47:08 no, there's no error :D Aug 28 19:47:37 rwhitby: I may not have, probably because I don't see him as often as I see you. But I did think the same thing with Internalz. Aug 28 19:47:51 Fortunately, I think Internalz is installed even less often than Preware. Aug 28 19:47:59 Roy-Pre101: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2631117 Aug 28 19:47:59 And by a more technical crowd. Aug 28 19:48:15 sugardave: Let me take a deeper look Aug 28 19:51:09 Roy-Pre101: that is true, but as a result it tends to lag on the security features, and therefore could be more dangerous in the long run. Aug 28 19:51:11 ah, I think I might know what's happening...multiple intervals are firing and so only the last one gets eliminated on deactivate Aug 28 19:51:17 now to prove it Aug 28 19:51:19 I have posted Aug 28 19:51:50 sugardave: Why would you have multiple intervals? Aug 28 19:52:07 sugardave: in my quick test, it works perfectly Aug 28 19:52:50 kesne: I don't want them, it's because my other clearTimer is not clearing them on selection, I think Aug 28 19:53:06 clearInterval, rather Aug 28 19:53:50 Roy-Pre101: I have responded in the positive. Aug 28 19:53:57 ding ding ding, that was it Aug 28 19:54:03 sugardave: Go you! Aug 28 19:54:07 Roy-Pre101: any other concerns once that is implemented in the next Preware version? Aug 28 19:54:08 heh Aug 28 19:54:15 Hmm... Aug 28 19:54:56 Roy-Pre101: note that the signature checking in Preware will probably be delayed to a later version Aug 28 19:55:25 (simply cause it's a difficult feature to implement) Aug 28 19:56:04 and we want to get a version out quickly (and safely) which can support the "Send to Preware" button on the webOSroundup app gallery ... Aug 28 19:56:07 I finally wrote checkers Aug 28 19:56:10 With an app assistant Aug 28 19:57:21 Not really, I'm all for people messing up their phones. But I have installed Preware for my Father and Father-in-law... Aug 28 20:07:44 Roy-Pre101: do you see a problem with any of the new functionality (and the "Send to Preware" button) for them? Aug 28 20:09:38 No, I don't think they would likely use those. Aug 28 20:09:47 At least, not accidently. Aug 28 20:17:05 Roy-Pre101: so with the "ask before first association" in the next version of Preware, there are no remaining concerns? I want to be able to make sure that you guys can review Preware on WOR without any residual concerns. Aug 28 20:17:35 (I know you guys have previously expressed concerns on-air about how easy Internalz makes it to see and alter app code) Aug 28 20:20:41 rwhitby: As much as I can think of right now. Aug 28 20:22:08 Hmm Aug 28 21:33:33 kesne u around? Aug 28 22:06:19 LoneStar99: Am now Aug 28 22:13:23 LoneStar99: Are you? Aug 28 22:23:08 Ha Aug 28 22:23:13 Finally found how metrix does patching Aug 28 22:24:20 It checks for a new version of metrixCore.js. If there's a new one, it downloads it, sets a cookie with all of the details about it, and when the metrix library is loaded, it calls whatever is set in the cookie using loadScriptWithCallback. Aug 28 22:30:18 kesne: interesting Aug 28 22:52:33 what else can it be used for Aug 28 23:04:56 ugh. climbed up on my roof today to remove an ancient tv antenna.. what a PITA it was getting back down.. and now i have to go back up and fill some holes in the siding.. Aug 28 23:06:25 lol Aug 28 23:06:43 Us oh Aug 28 23:06:47 *uh Aug 28 23:06:53 Metrix has a vulterability Aug 28 23:07:01 shocker Aug 28 23:07:11 Any app can downlaod a file called metrixCore.js to /media/internal/.app-storage/Metrix/source and metrix will run it Aug 28 23:07:23 assuming that it's already been hot patched Aug 29 00:55:13 howdy floks Aug 29 00:55:15 folks Aug 29 00:55:23 no passwords for now Aug 29 00:56:21 student 2 Aug 29 00:56:23 ? Aug 29 00:56:48 almost Aug 29 00:56:51 lol Aug 29 00:57:45 drinking a cold one, released 1.0.3 of my app Aug 29 00:59:51 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/d24e/ Aug 29 00:59:53 nice Aug 29 01:00:52 lol that is cool, but ridiculous Aug 29 01:01:11 pondering this for my new kitchen Aug 29 01:01:11 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/86dd/ Aug 29 01:01:26 very nice Aug 29 01:01:29 i like it Aug 29 01:03:02 this too is badass Aug 29 01:03:03 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/a7cf/ Aug 29 01:03:50 yeah cool, but like the knife holder more! Aug 29 01:04:17 they have space invader ice cube trays too Aug 29 01:06:33 whoa... that chopping board in insane Aug 29 01:06:39 this would be cool Aug 29 01:06:41 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/supplies/db91/ Aug 29 01:06:45 if they had a Pre one Aug 29 01:07:00 dawm|laptop: i want to try the dry ice cream think geek had at one point Aug 29 01:07:23 http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/9e07/ Aug 29 01:09:13 haha Aug 29 01:09:24 they have a thing called the Slanket.. its pretty much a snuggie Aug 29 01:09:28 but less gay Aug 29 01:10:12 lol Aug 29 01:10:17 it still sounds gay Aug 29 01:11:04 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/69e3/ Aug 29 01:11:16 thats cool cause its not noticably geek Aug 29 01:11:21 that is cool Aug 29 01:11:54 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/ba37/ Aug 29 01:12:39 yea, might have to get some of those Aug 29 01:13:24 yeah, sweet Aug 29 01:13:52 lol a USB Pet Rock Aug 29 01:13:58 * dohtem is stuck on DSL :( Aug 29 01:15:06 nice Aug 29 01:15:18 dsl is for suckers... jk, dsl here Aug 29 01:16:46 trying to find a decent looking flip clock Aug 29 01:19:01 wish this wasnt green Aug 29 01:19:02 http://cnn.cn/shop/large-cylindrical-flip-clock-black-p-4220.html Aug 29 01:21:07 http://uoid.me/flipclock1 Aug 29 01:59:53 Howdy everyone Aug 29 02:04:16 howdy Tibfib Aug 29 02:06:35 LoneStar99: howdy, seems to be a quiet night Aug 29 02:09:26 updated iHaveSpirit in the beta feed Aug 29 02:09:31 hello all Aug 29 02:09:37 * sugardave submerges. Aug 29 02:09:52 lol Aug 29 02:23:57 Tibfib: yeah very quite Aug 29 02:24:24 hello sugardave Aug 29 02:46:00 I want this to be real Aug 29 02:46:00 http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/dharma-alarm-clock.shtml Aug 29 02:50:48 i want a clock that goes back in time Aug 29 02:53:30 no more coding today, siping on gin and juice **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 29 02:59:57 2010