**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 29 02:59:57 2010
Aug 29 03:00:49 <kesne> LoneStar99: Lazy...
Aug 29 03:03:39 <LoneStar99> kesne:  lol, yeah
Aug 29 03:06:10 <LoneStar99> time off from the 12 kids
Aug 29 03:17:40 <kesne> LoneStar99: you have 12 kids?
Aug 29 03:23:21 <LoneStar99> yeah 13 soon
Aug 29 03:30:35 <kesne> LoneStar99: You've got to be kidding me...
Aug 29 03:30:50 <LoneStar99> why?
Aug 29 03:32:16 <LoneStar99> 13 kids is like a little school
Aug 29 03:32:37 <LoneStar99> except the school is at home everyday
Aug 29 03:32:47 <kesne> That sucks
Aug 29 03:32:52 <LoneStar99> then they go to school
Aug 29 03:35:27 <LoneStar99> kesne:  in a day 13 kids can eat $250 of groceries
Aug 29 03:35:41 <oil> you have 13 kids?
Aug 29 03:35:51 <oil> thats just crazy
Aug 29 03:36:47 <LoneStar99> i know it is out of control, but it just happened
Aug 29 03:38:45 <LoneStar99> honestly have no kids, just a single lad
Aug 29 03:38:59 <kesne> Wait
Aug 29 03:39:06 <kesne> So you don't have 13 kids?
Aug 29 03:39:41 <LoneStar99> kesne: what u think?
Aug 29 03:39:45 <kesne> heh
Aug 29 03:39:54 <kesne> Carpe Diem!
Aug 29 03:40:31 <LoneStar99> latin?
Aug 29 03:40:38 <kesne> Yeah
Aug 29 03:40:42 <kesne> Ille qui nos omnes servabit.
Aug 29 03:41:30 <LoneStar99> he that does not know...
Aug 29 03:41:49 <kesne> He who will serve us all
Aug 29 03:42:18 <kesne> Or protesct
Aug 29 03:42:25 <kesne> *protect
Aug 29 03:42:41 <LoneStar99> you learning that in school right now?
Aug 29 03:42:42 <kesne> Translations vary.
Aug 29 03:42:44 <kesne> No
Aug 29 03:43:00 <kesne> I take german
Aug 29 03:43:06 <LoneStar99> nice
Aug 29 03:43:06 <kesne> Deutsch, auch ja!
Aug 29 03:43:08 <LoneStar99> prost
Aug 29 03:43:46 <kesne> I only know Carpe Diem and ille qui nos omnes servabit when it comes to latin, and only because of Dead Poets Seciety and Lost
Aug 29 03:44:22 <LoneStar99> you watch to many movies
Aug 29 03:44:41 <LoneStar99> watch KPAX
Aug 29 03:46:41 <kesne> Lost !== movie
Aug 29 03:49:58 <LoneStar99> kesne: what is your favorite movie?
Aug 29 03:50:05 <kesne> Hmm
Aug 29 03:50:08 <kesne> That's tough
Aug 29 03:50:11 <kesne> No idea
Aug 29 03:50:35 <kesne> Favorite movie I've seen this month would probably be Ghost
Aug 29 03:50:42 <kesne> Moon is a great movie
Aug 29 03:50:57 <halfhalo> WHY DO I NOT HAVE THE BOURNE SERIES DOWNLOADED
Aug 29 03:51:00 <halfhalo> WHYWHYWHYWHYWHY
Aug 29 03:51:09 <LoneStar99> Ghost is a great movie
Aug 29 03:51:10 <kesne> Those are good movies too
Aug 29 03:51:17 <Tibfib> halfhalo: I'm sorry.
Aug 29 03:51:46 <halfhalo> I love those movies… almost as much as I love serenity
Aug 29 03:51:59 <Tibfib> they are good
Aug 29 03:52:02 <LoneStar99> I like the shawshank redemsion as my favorite
Aug 29 03:52:22 <kesne> Oh, that's a fantastic movie
Aug 29 03:52:28 <halfhalo> meh
Aug 29 03:52:40 <kesne> Philadelphia is a great one too
Aug 29 03:52:59 <halfhalo> I also like the boondock saints movies, but cant really watch em right now since my brother is watching as well
Aug 29 03:53:18 <LoneStar99> yeah boondock saints!
Aug 29 03:53:34 <LoneStar99> did not see the latest one,
Aug 29 03:54:01 <kesne> What other movies have I seen lately...
Aug 29 03:54:09 <kesne> Back To The Future
Aug 29 03:54:25 <LoneStar99> that is my 2nd favorite film
Aug 29 03:54:48 <kesne> Oh, all time favorite movie is probably Howl's Moving Castle
Aug 29 03:55:07 <halfhalo> ohhh, pulp fiction
Aug 29 03:55:18 <halfhalo> another movie I can't watch right now...
Aug 29 03:55:23 <sugardave> Reservoir Dogs is good
Aug 29 03:55:33 <halfhalo> I actually have never seen it
Aug 29 03:55:50 <kesne> My fav TV show is LOST, followed by Avatar: The Last Airbender
Aug 29 03:55:50 <halfhalo> downloaded it like 80 times, but never got around to watching it
Aug 29 03:56:00 <kesne> Tron is classic
Aug 29 03:56:19 <Tibfib> inception.
Aug 29 03:56:20 <halfhalo> OK, what is with this switch and not letting my desktop connect
Aug 29 03:56:33 <kesne> Inception was good, but not on my top movies list
Aug 29 03:56:41 <kesne> Very Matrix-esque
Aug 29 03:56:45 <halfhalo> never saw inception
Aug 29 03:56:58 <halfhalo> matrix, another movie I can't watch right now… gah
Aug 29 03:57:48 <halfhalo> 20 buck says I pull the wrong ethernet cord out of the switch right now and take the mac down instead of the desktop
Aug 29 03:58:09 <Tibfib> bye halfhalo
Aug 29 03:58:21 <LoneStar99> adios
Aug 29 03:58:50 * Roy-Pre101 cheers.
Aug 29 03:58:52 <Tibfib> lol
Aug 29 03:59:17 <kesne> Roy-Pre101: You're here?
Aug 29 03:59:22 <halfhalo> well, I did NOT pull the ethernet cord out… I pulled the power cord out
Aug 29 03:59:23 <Roy-Pre101> nupe.
Aug 29 03:59:36 <kesne> Roy-Pre101: Oh, my bad, thought you were
Aug 29 03:59:48 <Roy-Pre101> kesne: Easy to see how you could make that mistake.
Aug 29 04:00:04 <kesne> I hope you understand
Aug 29 04:00:07 <kesne> Mojo.doNothing()
Aug 29 04:00:09 <halfhalo> Ohhh, hot fuzz
Aug 29 04:00:36 <halfhalo> ANOTHER movie I can't watch
Aug 29 04:00:49 <halfhalo> is my entire movie collection made up of R rated movies?
Aug 29 04:01:36 <halfhalo> Speaking of witch(es), wonder if shaun of the dead is netflixed
Aug 29 04:01:55 <kesne> I love netflix
Aug 29 04:02:40 <halfhalo> I heart netflix on ipad in class
Aug 29 04:02:49 <kesne> Haha
Aug 29 04:02:55 <kesne> Shouldn't you be paying attention?
Aug 29 04:03:03 <kesne> I love watching Boxxy all day
Aug 29 04:03:28 <halfhalo> Nah, my two comp classes are "conceptual"
Aug 29 04:04:12 <halfhalo> trust me, if onlive was wified up I would be playing games all day
Aug 29 04:05:12 <kesne> What is onlive?
Aug 29 04:05:27 <halfhalo> netflix instant streaming, but for games
Aug 29 04:05:34 <halfhalo> I SAID GOOD DAY TO YOU MOBSTER
Aug 29 04:05:43 * halfhalo is playing mafia II
Aug 29 04:06:06 * kesne is playing Checkers
Aug 29 04:06:08 <kesne> Fixing it
Aug 29 04:06:14 <kesne> Beacause I broke it
Aug 29 04:06:19 <kesne> When I made it multi-stage
Aug 29 04:06:20 <kesne> And now
Aug 29 04:06:26 <kesne> I've got about half of the fixing done
Aug 29 04:06:49 <kesne> All that's left to do is some two-play online and local fixing, then finish support
Aug 29 04:06:53 <kesne> Then achivements
Aug 29 04:06:56 <kesne> Then I'm done
Aug 29 04:07:51 <LoneStar99> kesne u good at checkers?
Aug 29 04:07:57 <halfhalo> HS with a tommy gun is win
Aug 29 04:08:13 <halfhalo> I'm good at cheating at checkers!
Aug 29 04:44:07 <maik> what's the best way to put two divs/spans side by side?
Aug 29 04:44:20 <maik> keeping in mind i need to use arbitrary widths/heights and inline elements don't honor width/height
Aug 29 04:46:03 <Tibfib> Dangit... stupid stones
Aug 29 04:48:22 <halfhalo> ok, I _could_ program… or I _could_ watch top gear
Aug 29 04:50:47 <maik> any ideas?
Aug 29 04:51:05 <halfhalo> yell at it
Aug 29 04:51:17 <Tibfib> wwds
Aug 29 04:52:00 <halfhalo> Like I said, yell at it
Aug 29 04:52:11 <maik> can't, kid is sleeping
Aug 29 04:52:22 <maik> is there no good way to do it?
Aug 29 04:52:27 <Tibfib> looks like you're out of luck
Aug 29 04:52:57 * Tibfib would answer if he knew the answer.
Aug 29 04:56:29 <Tibfib> ohmygoodness 4-13 is going to be hard
Aug 29 04:57:20 <Tibfib> nvm
Aug 29 04:59:22 <maik> heh
Aug 29 05:00:50 <Tibfib> 4-14 looks pretty hard tho
Aug 29 06:05:33 <kesne> maik: A table
Aug 29 06:36:34 <kesne> its/9000
Aug 29 06:42:59 <ShadeS> trying to back up my sms logs and call logs hopefully this won't  be too big of a pain
Aug 29 06:43:42 * kesne wishes you the best of luch
Aug 29 06:43:46 <kesne> Luck, too
Aug 29 06:44:04 <sugardave> maik: can't float them inside some kind of parent?
Aug 29 06:44:15 <kesne> maik: Tables FTW
Aug 29 06:44:59 <hotdp> Is it possible to turn "off" internet connection on the emulator´
Aug 29 06:45:00 <hotdp> ?
Aug 29 06:45:01 * sugardave heads for fluffy pillows.
Aug 29 06:50:52 <kesne> hotdp: Unplug your ethernet cable
Aug 29 06:51:05 <hotdp> ok :)
Aug 29 06:51:15 <hotdp> thought about a button or something ;)
Aug 29 06:54:51 <kesne> Turn on airplane mode
Aug 29 06:58:13 <hotdp> does not work?
Aug 29 06:58:38 <hotdp> it sounds kind of stupid but how do i show/hide an div from the code?
Aug 29 06:58:50 <hotdp> this.controller.get('loading').
Aug 29 06:59:29 <kesne> this.controller.get('loading').visibility = "hidden";
Aug 29 06:59:48 <hotdp> thanks
Aug 29 06:59:59 <hotdp> is show = blok?
Aug 29 07:00:10 <kesne> What?
Aug 29 07:00:49 <hotdp> hmm it does not work
Aug 29 07:00:57 <hotdp> <div id="loading"><div class="palm-scrim"><div id="spinnerId" x-mojo-element="Spinner"></div></div></div> <-- is what i have
Aug 29 07:01:13 <hotdp> and when i am finished loading i would like the "scrim" to go away but it stays
Aug 29 07:01:31 <kesne> No idea
Aug 29 07:04:18 <hotdp> dammit
Aug 29 07:07:00 <hotdp> $('myScrim').hide(); did it
Aug 29 07:07:43 <kesne> Uh oh
Aug 29 07:07:48 <kesne> Careful with $()
Aug 29 07:07:50 <kesne> It's evil
Aug 29 07:07:58 <kesne> OH
Aug 29 07:08:03 <hotdp> why?
Aug 29 07:08:04 <kesne> I know why mine didn't work
Aug 29 07:08:11 <kesne> this.controller.get('loading').style.visibility = "hidden";
Aug 29 07:08:14 <kesne> That will work
Aug 29 07:08:16 <kesne> I garuntee it
Aug 29 07:08:49 <hotdp> I see
Aug 29 07:08:59 <hotdp> but what is best? :)
Aug 29 07:09:07 <hotdp> and why is $ evil him self
Aug 29 07:10:02 <kesne> Best is relative
Aug 29 07:10:17 <kesne> $() is evil because when you make it multi-stage, it breaks
Aug 29 07:12:13 <hotdp> ohh
Aug 29 07:12:16 <hotdp> did not know
Aug 29 07:13:32 <kesne> Yeah
Aug 29 07:13:38 <kesne> I had an issue with that
Aug 29 07:13:55 <kesne> Had to rewrite most of checkesr because of it
Aug 29 07:13:57 <kesne> *checkers
Aug 29 07:14:16 <kesne> Well, I only had to change a few lines here and there, but I rewrote most of it for fu
Aug 29 07:14:16 <kesne> n
Aug 29 07:15:34 <hotdp> hehe
Aug 29 07:15:42 <hotdp> "fun" :)
Aug 29 07:16:56 <hotdp> I am looking at some icons for my app
Aug 29 07:17:04 <hotdp> if it is "License: GPL" what does that mean?
Aug 29 07:17:49 <kesne> google
Aug 29 07:18:58 <hotdp> but it is many pages :)
Aug 29 07:35:07 <kesne> Ugh
Aug 29 07:35:16 <kesne> My application randomly decides to stop working
Aug 29 07:35:19 <kesne> That's really nice
Aug 29 07:39:14 <hotdp> only on emulator?
Aug 29 07:39:41 <kesne> It randomly breaks all the time
Aug 29 07:46:50 <kesne> Ugh
Aug 29 07:46:53 <kesne> Fixed it this time
Aug 29 07:47:17 <kesne> Okay, so the new version of checkers will wipe out all settings. Should I create a migration tool to move the settings, or just wipe um out?
Aug 29 07:49:37 <ShadeS> ok guys
Aug 29 07:49:42 <ShadeS> so i'm almost there
Aug 29 07:49:46 <ShadeS> my device is in dev mode
Aug 29 07:49:52 <ShadeS> and all I have to do is run this jar file apparently
Aug 29 07:51:44 <ShadeS> pre is asking me to just charge orusb drive
Aug 29 07:51:53 <ShadeS> these instructions don't seem tos ay
Aug 29 07:53:59 <kesne> Im out for the night
Aug 29 07:54:02 <kesne> Later all
Aug 29 15:05:52 <torchie_pre> what has dtzWill DONE
Aug 29 15:12:35 <torchie_pre> for the first time, I own a handheld device with a decent snes emulator
Aug 29 15:25:07 <qacat> how strange is iit that palm dev requires both paypal AND a credit card?
Aug 29 15:25:11 * qacat grumbles
Aug 29 15:25:42 <LoneStar99> qacat: it needs a CC?
Aug 29 15:26:00 <Roy-Pre101> Since when?
Aug 29 15:27:52 <qacat> registration... it asks for company info, tax info (for if you get paid) and then it wants to set up a paypal... when you set up paypal, it says it also wants a CC
Aug 29 15:28:26 <Roy-Pre101> Hmm
Aug 29 15:29:25 <LoneStar99> that must be new, the CC is probably to prevent crap accounts
Aug 29 15:34:20 <qacat> well, it marks me as a "community member" rather than a "developer" and the account page has a happy little notice that i can upgrade my membership
Aug 29 15:34:35 <qacat> it's the "upgrade" that requires a CC
Aug 29 15:35:14 <sugardave> it's from when it cost money to join
Aug 29 15:35:25 <sugardave> why it's still there?  who knows?
Aug 29 15:36:00 <sugardave> actually, that's not right
Aug 29 15:36:06 <sugardave> I paid my $5 with PayPal
Aug 29 15:36:15 <qacat> but just to be a community member i had to agree to the SDK license, so i am contracutally obligated to only post apps to the catalog...but only allowed once i am a "developer"?
Aug 29 15:37:45 <sugardave> I don't know...just glad I took care of all this stuff last year :D
Aug 29 15:38:25 <sugardave> haeffb: iHS updated, if you uninstall first, you can see the new button I added :P
Aug 29 15:38:45 <qacat> sugardave, i might agree, but the first part of signing up as a dev questions whether i will post only opensource apps--i thought that as the part of "community membership"
Aug 29 15:39:33 <sugardave> I have no clue, it's been so long.  Might have better luck asking chuqui (maybe he'll be here tomorrow)
Aug 29 15:39:52 <qacat> k - if i can, i'll ask.
Aug 29 15:40:22 <sugardave> he's the palm developer community relations liasion to the stars
Aug 29 15:41:12 <qacat> sugardave, haha.  funny way to describe. he only online when he's "at work" ?  i might have trouble getting a hold of him, them bleh
Aug 29 15:41:16 <qacat> then*
Aug 29 15:41:36 <qacat> but i'll try to check
Aug 29 15:41:40 <sugardave> sometimes he's here on the weekends, but mostly during "work" hours for California
Aug 29 15:44:44 <qacat> sugardave, well, that's cool for me, at least: i'm East Coast.  heh
Aug 29 15:44:45 <qacat> hehe
Aug 29 15:54:45 <sugardave> Fall approacheth...is it time for early access devs to start camping the dropbox? :D
Aug 29 16:23:22 <qacat> sugardave, "camping"?
Aug 29 17:18:30 <haeffb> sugardave: much better
Aug 29 17:18:59 <haeffb> except for the flashy colors on the selected school - I liked the old method of showing colors better.
Aug 29 17:25:38 <LoneStar99> how many characters is the devid 32?
Aug 29 18:07:49 <sugardave> haeffb: aww come on...I need some eye candy :P  I was really just playing around with canvas to see what I can do.  I'll be tweaking that as versions progress
Aug 29 19:17:41 <kesne> hey
Aug 29 19:22:51 <LoneStar99> howdy
Aug 29 19:23:57 <LoneStar99> kesne: what happens if I do not place preload="auto" in  <audio> tag?
Aug 29 19:24:11 <kesne> nothing
Aug 29 19:26:59 <LoneStar99> oh ok,
Aug 29 20:07:58 <kesne> LoneStar99: preload loads up the audio so there's no buffer time
Aug 29 20:26:00 <LoneStar99> oh ok, gonna mess with that tag in abit
Aug 29 20:39:39 <Anivrom> I'm back in black.
Aug 29 20:52:22 <Anivrom> Guess the chan is dead atm
Aug 29 20:57:24 <LoneStar99> hello anivrom
Aug 29 20:57:27 <LoneStar99> welcomeback
Aug 29 20:57:34 <Anivrom> thanks
Aug 29 20:57:34 <LoneStar99> u where on vaca?
Aug 29 20:57:46 <Anivrom> yea
Aug 29 20:57:47 <LoneStar99> working on a little app
Aug 29 20:57:51 <LoneStar99> where u go?
Aug 29 20:57:55 <Anivrom> up north
Aug 29 20:58:02 <LoneStar99> canada?
Aug 29 20:58:06 <Anivrom> I live in canada
Aug 29 20:58:09 <Anivrom> so up north canada
Aug 29 20:58:16 <LoneStar99> wow, cold?
Aug 29 20:58:26 <Anivrom> yea. 30 celcius
Aug 29 21:00:13 <LoneStar99> wow
Aug 29 21:00:27 <LoneStar99> like nova scotia?
Aug 29 21:00:29 <Anivrom> in other words not cold....
Aug 29 21:00:47 <Anivrom> -_- americans
Aug 29 21:00:51 <Anivrom> Nova scotia is east.
Aug 29 21:01:03 <Anivrom> just google maps cochrane ontario
Aug 29 21:02:07 <LoneStar99> ok, will map it
Aug 29 21:02:36 <Anivrom> its not the location that shows up on the map, just go south east a tiny bit where highway 11 turns from north to west
Aug 29 21:03:53 <LoneStar99> http://uoid.me/t2v7
Aug 29 21:05:56 <Anivrom> caught 41 northern pike. 2-4 pounds each.
Aug 29 21:06:04 <Anivrom> kept 10 and filleted them
Aug 29 21:06:43 <Anivrom> just sat at the same spot in the boat and kept catching them one after another
Aug 29 21:08:48 <LoneStar99> wow awesome, have you grilled some yet?
Aug 29 21:09:09 <Anivrom> first 2 we ate already. have the other 3 bags frozen
Aug 29 21:10:01 <Anivrom> has it been dead like this the whole time I was gone?
Aug 29 21:10:03 <Anivrom> lol
Aug 29 21:19:57 <Anivrom> I expected atleast sugardave to be around.
Aug 29 21:28:28 <haeffb> ok, sugardave, we can start chatting again. Anivrom is back.
Aug 29 21:28:37 <Anivrom> I knew it
Aug 29 21:29:29 <LoneStar99> sugardave:  was here abit ago
Aug 29 21:31:03 * haeffb has completely changed how my list widgets work with database info.
Aug 29 21:39:40 <Anivrom> hi haeffb
Aug 29 21:40:02 <Anivrom> still working on noted?
Aug 29 21:42:28 <haeffb> making some improvements
Aug 29 21:42:59 <Anivrom> I didnt touch a computer while I was up north so now I gotta get my bearings
Aug 29 21:43:19 <Anivrom> gettin a little SA failure
Aug 29 21:44:22 <haeffb> the keyboard is the clicky thing in front
Aug 29 21:44:29 <Anivrom> ohhhhh
Aug 29 21:45:10 <Anivrom> speaking of which... I wanna get my old IBM "clicky" keyboard out of storage
Aug 29 21:45:12 <Anivrom> I love that thing
Aug 29 21:45:18 <Anivrom> makes a racket but feels amazing
Aug 29 21:50:12 <Anivrom> Anyone seen inception? is it good?
Aug 29 21:57:51 <LoneStar99> how would i set the img src using prototype?
Aug 29 21:58:02 <Anivrom> well
Aug 29 21:58:29 <Anivrom> myVar = new Image();
Aug 29 21:58:35 <Anivrom> myVar.src = "path"
Aug 29 21:58:39 <Anivrom> LoneStar99
Aug 29 21:58:55 <LoneStar99> ok thanks
Aug 29 21:59:18 <Anivrom> or if its an html element $("myDiv").src = "path"
Aug 29 21:59:24 <Anivrom> or something like that
Aug 29 21:59:31 * Anivrom shrugs
Aug 29 21:59:35 <rwhitby> morning
Aug 29 22:00:32 <LoneStar99> morning
Aug 29 22:01:00 <LoneStar99> Anivrom:  the 2nd snippet, is what i need, thanks
Aug 29 22:02:20 <Anivrom> LoneStar99: its .src = ("path")
Aug 29 22:18:34 <LoneStar99> Anivrom:  thanks, that worked!
Aug 29 22:18:57 <Anivrom> good stuff. I shoulda mentioned you gotta modelChanged after
Aug 29 22:19:01 <Anivrom> butyou figured it out
Aug 29 22:19:55 <LoneStar99> without the modelChanged, what does it do?
Aug 29 22:20:03 <Anivrom> doesn't update the display
Aug 29 22:20:18 <Anivrom> src will be changed but it wont show that its changed to the user
Aug 29 22:20:48 <Anivrom> I believe :P
Aug 29 22:25:26 <LoneStar99> yeah, having issues, refreshing, but will test again, in abit
Aug 29 22:34:03 <Anivrom> brb watching inception
Aug 29 22:55:24 <kesne> Anivrom died!
Aug 29 23:06:37 <LoneStar99> kesne: why would the src of an audio file not change, even if the json where the src is parsed from changes?
Aug 29 23:06:55 <kesne> no idea
Aug 29 23:07:26 <LoneStar99> yeah, weird, gonna ask the prototype dude
Aug 29 23:07:27 <LoneStar99> s
Aug 29 23:07:38 <funkatron> hey, so
Aug 29 23:07:55 <funkatron> any of youse folks know a way to programatically set the state of the command menu buttons?
Aug 29 23:08:04 <funkatron> like, switch which one is enabled?
Aug 29 23:08:31 <funkatron> err, not enabled… appears "selected" or "depressed" I guess
Aug 30 00:30:46 <Muhb> Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but has anyone here successfully unlocked their palm pre plus using the nextgenserver method, while the phone IS NOT activated?
Aug 30 00:31:25 <Muhb> I think I'm caught in a catch 22 whereby I can't seem to unlock the phone until it's activated, but I can't activate it until it's unlocked (unless I sign up with AT&T, which kind of defeats the whole purpose).
Aug 30 00:46:00 <madnificent> Muhb: I used the german webos doctor for a german palm pre... by using that, it requested the information of the provider... that allowed me to use my own provider with it
Aug 30 00:46:10 <madnificent> I haven't done anything else so far
Aug 30 00:46:39 <Muhb> Ah...
Aug 30 00:47:19 <Muhb> I did something similar I think, but from what I understand the modem still needs an unlock code and the doctor won't overwrite it once I can get it and enter it.
Aug 30 00:48:11 <Muhb> So far all I've done is bypass activation and enable developer mode, it's pretty much an iPod Touch at this point. If I try to activate it with the First Use app, it either asks for a SIM card if one isn't inserted, or it will ask for an Unlock code if I insert my T-Mobile SIM.
Aug 30 00:49:42 <Muhb> The instructions for nextgenserver say activation is required but I'm honestly not sure why, I was under the impression that all it needed was the IMEI which it successfully reads, it just doesn't return an unlock code for me.
Aug 30 00:51:41 <haeffb> funkatron: get your command menu question answered?
Aug 30 00:51:52 <funkatron> haeffb: yeah, for my purposes I'm good
Aug 30 00:52:30 <funkatron> I was able to dynamically set the toggleCmd param on startup
Aug 30 01:21:39 <Anivrom> whoa...... inception is 10 times more insane than fightclub
Aug 30 01:22:20 <Anivrom> I can just see all the people that have their own totems now
Aug 30 01:25:14 <Tibfib> Anivrom!
Aug 30 01:25:19 <Anivrom> hey !
Aug 30 01:25:22 <Anivrom> inception..
Aug 30 01:25:23 <Anivrom> wow
Aug 30 01:25:27 <Tibfib> best movie ever
Aug 30 01:25:35 <Anivrom> Its on my top 3 for sure
Aug 30 01:25:39 <Anivrom> crazy
Aug 30 01:25:52 <Anivrom> I'm gonna make meself a totem LO
Aug 30 01:25:56 <Tibfib> lol
Aug 30 01:25:57 <Anivrom> :P*
Aug 30 01:26:17 <Anivrom> It will be my palm pre
Aug 30 01:26:34 <Anivrom> And when I open my app, if it has no bugs, im in a dream and ill give myself a kick
Aug 30 01:26:39 <Anivrom> HAHAHA
Aug 30 01:26:45 <Tibfib> haha
Aug 30 01:28:31 <Anivrom> ugh so yea, I found a bug where if you dont open the app for a while (most likely after 24 hours) it doesn't come back and eventually erases all data except inventory and a couple other things. And funny thing is it doesn't throw any errors...
Aug 30 01:28:37 <Anivrom> crikey!
Aug 30 01:29:02 <Anivrom> First I gotta learn how my code works after not being on a computer for a week, then i can try and fix some of these bugs
Aug 30 01:29:32 <Anivrom> Right after I crack the ending of inception.
Aug 30 01:32:40 <funkatron> is that an issue?
Aug 30 01:32:40 <funkatron> erasing all data?
Aug 30 01:32:59 <Anivrom> Guess so :/
Aug 30 01:35:36 <Tibfib> Anivrom: found that one
Aug 30 01:35:42 <Anivrom> yea
Aug 30 01:35:55 <Tibfib> and the scene is scrollable
Aug 30 01:35:55 <Anivrom> No errors though, no log messages either
Aug 30 01:35:59 <Anivrom> Yea
Aug 30 01:36:28 <Anivrom> Guess I dont have a disableSceneScroller somewhere
Aug 30 01:36:30 <Anivrom> idk
Aug 30 01:37:26 <Anivrom> Ugh wont be having too much time to program, had to scrap my car cause it broke down and would cost more to fix than it was worth so now its gonna take me almost 2 hours each way to work.
Aug 30 01:47:17 <Anivrom> Night guys
Aug 30 02:35:16 <Tibfib> dang... the "default applications" page in webOS is awesome. I can't wait for it to be fully supported.
Aug 30 02:35:22 <Tibfib> </randomthought>
Aug 30 02:41:21 <kesne> What would you do to use it?
Aug 30 02:42:05 <Tibfib> atm, nothing. I like it as a webOS user
Aug 30 02:49:06 <kesne> Ah
Aug 30 02:49:15 <kesne> Ugh, anybody want to help debug some really messy code?
Aug 30 02:51:08 * Tibfib goes to bed
Aug 30 02:54:32 <tdb30_> what does said messy code do?
Aug 30 02:57:53 <kesne> Play a game of Checkers
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