**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 30 02:59:57 2010 Aug 30 03:04:41 Too late now. Time for sleep Aug 30 03:06:56 http://webos.pastebin.com/igZVeQDk Aug 30 03:07:04 For some reason, it now decided to break Aug 30 03:13:59 you should fire up the Ares debugger and step through it http://ares.palm.com/AresDebug/ Aug 30 03:33:45 Ugh Aug 30 03:33:48 I should Aug 30 03:35:56 * kesne thinks about rewriting the Checkers Engine Aug 30 03:36:02 * kesne things suicide is better than that Aug 30 03:41:26 kesne: is it a lot of work? Aug 30 03:41:33 Oh god yes Aug 30 03:41:58 kesne: figured out the audio src problem... Aug 30 03:42:03 yay! Aug 30 03:45:17 stupid connection Aug 30 03:49:15 $("sound").src = "path"

will only work once even though the src changes, so the fix is to:

--> this.controller.get("container").innerHTML = '

'; Aug 30 03:54:16 frak Aug 30 03:57:39 yeaper Aug 30 03:58:13 my new app --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbMp4cDwBi4 Aug 30 04:27:36 LoneStar99: Looks good Aug 30 04:31:26 thanks, Aug 30 04:31:40 small little app Aug 30 04:38:32 if anyone is here... Aug 30 04:38:35 ended up gettin a focus Aug 30 04:38:43 nice Aug 30 04:42:16 boom. resvations made Aug 30 04:42:23 reservations* Aug 30 05:21:06 Anybody here Aug 30 05:48:32 Good morning Aug 30 06:03:19 Hey Aug 30 06:03:24 Wonderful night Aug 30 06:14:43 :) Aug 30 06:17:55 kesne: are you the ImageViewer expert? Aug 30 06:18:03 Nope Aug 30 06:19:13 Can someone help me with the imageviewer? My problem is that i don't see a fast low res image but black screen until the full image is loaded. What can i do to first get a fast low res and later a better image? Aug 30 07:07:26 profile pictures ftw? Aug 30 07:11:20 Woo Aug 30 07:11:25 It works Aug 30 07:11:25 yay Aug 30 07:11:30 * kesne claps his hands Aug 30 07:11:51 If I clap my hands and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Aug 30 07:13:04 morning Aug 30 07:14:19 swisstomcat: Good morning Aug 30 07:15:11 hi hotdp Aug 30 07:15:50 How are you doing swisstomcat? Aug 30 07:16:19 hey kesne Aug 30 07:16:32 Hey Aug 30 07:16:34 Whats up? Aug 30 07:17:19 not much Aug 30 07:17:24 the day just started Aug 30 07:18:39 Not here, heh Aug 30 07:18:44 It's 12:16AM Aug 30 07:18:48 So technically, you are right Aug 30 07:27:39 Im out Aug 30 07:27:42 later folks Aug 30 08:12:47 Are there someone in here who makes icons for free? :D Aug 30 13:26:39 morning all Aug 30 13:31:12 Hey HattCzech_work Aug 30 13:31:36 morning Aug 30 13:35:22 $L("Good morning") + " " + Mojo.appInfo.IRCchannel; Aug 30 13:35:57 guten morgen #webos Aug 30 13:36:12 * haeffb_pre has been fighting with a FilterList for the past 24 hours Aug 30 13:36:18 who won? Aug 30 13:37:04 so far, FilterList is ahead on points. my only hope now is a knockout blow. Aug 30 13:38:49 Heh. Aug 30 13:39:43 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4291&p=38366#p38366 Aug 30 13:39:45 * Anivrom|pre has been fighting his memory for the past 24 hrs, and my memory wins everytime Aug 30 13:40:44 Anyone who hasn't seen inception needs to Aug 30 13:40:52 Liak nao Aug 30 13:41:25 * haeffb_pre raises hand Aug 30 13:41:33 i saw it Aug 30 13:41:45 LIAK NOW!!!!! Aug 30 13:42:24 I would ask what your take on the ending is but it would ruin it for othera Aug 30 13:42:26 * haeffb_pre meant to be counted among those who haven't Aug 30 13:42:27 Others Aug 30 13:42:59 swisstomcat: how much time did you spend on angry birds this weekend? Aug 30 13:43:07 no time Aug 30 13:43:15 i was out and about Aug 30 13:43:48 i'm only at 3-16 Aug 30 13:44:00 swisstomcat: inception ending: did it stay up or not? Aug 30 13:44:10 i spent too much time on it over the weekend :) Aug 30 13:44:17 What's your view Aug 30 13:44:28 anvirom: doesn't matter .. it was wobbling ... which means it was not a dream Aug 30 13:44:33 Anivrom|pre: i'd say not Aug 30 13:44:36 Shhhh Aug 30 13:44:41 Don't ruin it Aug 30 13:44:45 For others Aug 30 13:44:57 hehe Aug 30 13:45:01 I was trying to be as discrete a possible :P Aug 30 13:45:16 * haeffb_pre sticks fingers in ears Aug 30 13:45:42 I wanna say down but I have a feeling its up since everything fits better. Aug 30 13:45:52 * haeffb_pre notes Anivrom|pre was the person who started the discussion Aug 30 13:46:01 i think you'd have to stick your fingers in your eyes for that to work, haeffb_pre :) Aug 30 13:46:08 which might be a bit uncomfortable Aug 30 13:46:10 I started it but in a discrete manner haeffb_pre Aug 30 14:24:28 Too loud in here. Everyone shushhhhh Aug 30 14:29:56 we are working .. be quiet Aug 30 14:30:03 (or playing angry birds) Aug 30 14:35:03 What is this angry birds you speak of? An app for webos? Aug 30 14:36:04 yeah Aug 30 14:36:06 a game :) Aug 30 14:37:23 Anivrom|pre has been stuck in the wilderness for a week... Aug 30 14:38:09 it seems Aug 30 14:48:52 I looked it up.ooks interesting Aug 30 14:50:17 it's a time waster :) Aug 30 14:50:40 Kinda like a cross netween worms and lemmings? Aug 30 14:55:59 IT'S ALMOST Q4 Aug 30 14:56:27 * sugardave disappears again. Aug 30 14:57:06 You WOULD Disappear Aug 30 15:00:03 morning. Aug 30 15:05:17 rehi Aug 30 15:05:21 morning chuqui! Aug 30 15:06:49 Morning chuqster Aug 30 15:07:20 If that is your real name... Aug 30 15:07:28 * Anivrom|pre glares at chuqui Aug 30 15:09:04 Anivrom|pre: glares back. then cracks and giggles. Aug 30 15:09:23 WIN Aug 30 15:09:40 *g* Aug 30 15:09:52 don't tease the master Aug 30 15:10:08 lol Aug 30 15:10:15 * Anivrom|pre immediately adds to his resume "beat chuqui in a staring contest" Aug 30 15:12:26 chuqui: can you get somebody to look @ this thread? https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4291 Aug 30 15:15:48 sigh. I suck at everything.... even staring. (glances at shoes) Aug 30 15:16:24 haeffb_pre: yeah, I'll pass the wor.d Aug 30 15:17:46 chuqui: definition of "introverted engineer": one who looks at *your* shoes while talking to you Aug 30 15:19:01 yay, i finished "poached eggs" in angry birds :) Aug 30 15:21:32 grah... znc is being a pain Aug 30 15:22:28 Well dah. I use ncr for that stuff halfhalo Aug 30 15:22:46 angry birds rocks. I love how the game play is really simple, but it's a really fun game to play. Aug 30 15:23:13 but a time waster :) Aug 30 15:24:29 Grrr now m gonna have to buy it solelydue to the fact that chuqui gave it a good review Aug 30 15:25:23 42 levels to go :/ Aug 30 15:26:01 any electrical engineers around? Aug 30 15:26:40 hello swisstomcat - nope elec. engineer here. u trying to build a spaceship? Aug 30 15:27:04 hey lonestar Aug 30 15:27:46 i'm trying to hook up a infrared proximity sensor to a PC Aug 30 15:28:27 Swisstomcat: I've done that before but it was homemade Aug 30 15:29:28 swisstomcat: sorry for not reviewing your copy the other day, got really busy Aug 30 15:29:28 And rather primitive Aug 30 15:29:28 sugardave: np Aug 30 15:29:56 sugardave was never busy, he was bowling on the WII Aug 30 15:30:03 anvirom: i have either an arduino to work with or a serial port (which i was using together with a manual switch) Aug 30 15:30:08 * sugardave doesn't own a wii. Aug 30 15:30:15 sugardave was probably playing angry birds Aug 30 15:30:17 though I've thought about getting one Aug 30 15:30:31 * sugardave was working on a handful of apps. Aug 30 15:31:23 * haeffb_pre has a wii Aug 30 15:31:42 mostly uses to stream netflix Aug 30 15:31:55 my poor PS3 has been neglected. I might need to fire it up this afternoon Aug 30 15:32:03 lol Aug 30 15:32:10 Heh, got it working! Aug 30 15:32:22 halfhalo: callback chain? Aug 30 15:32:37 no, znc Aug 30 15:32:43 callback chains can die in a fire Aug 30 15:32:48 come on Aug 30 15:33:02 I stand by my statement Aug 30 15:34:10 Part 2 of my tutorial "Introduction to webOS SDK Development" is now online: http://bit.ly/bLw7uJ Aug 30 15:34:45 nice Aug 30 15:35:37 hmmm Aug 30 15:35:44 lets see it znc works with wirc Aug 30 15:37:26 it should...they both end in c Aug 30 15:37:43 true.. but that wirc is a squirrely one... Aug 30 15:40:13 I'm going to say... no Aug 30 15:40:56 because it don't work right.... Aug 30 15:42:19 but on the bright side, the raw thingie is really cool Aug 30 15:42:53 I like how swisstomcat's example puts listeners in activate and stops listening in deactivate :D Aug 30 15:42:57 Speaking of raw thingies, I'm eating a passion flakie Aug 30 15:43:13 bah, stopping listeners is for pansies Aug 30 15:43:14 sugardave: good or bad? :) Aug 30 15:43:20 swisstomcat: good IMO Aug 30 15:43:22 Good Aug 30 15:43:35 i don't want to teach em bad things :) Aug 30 15:43:39 heh Aug 30 15:43:48 that's what the channel is for ;) Aug 30 15:43:51 not that i started with stoplistening in my first apps Aug 30 15:44:13 yeah, I've probably abandoned thousands of listeners in my first app :D Aug 30 15:44:44 swisstomcat you get som good reviews on tuts i see :) Aug 30 15:45:04 yeah, i saw .. makes me happy .. it was my first tutorial i wrote Aug 30 15:45:06 Luckily I have you guys to steer me straight. I won't be having any orphaned listeners eating up my ramzzzz Aug 30 15:45:19 I was thinking about closing listeners in my node stuff... but then I realised I was lazy and didn't need it Aug 30 15:45:42 listeners gotta eat, too. why's everybody always wanting to stop 'em...? Aug 30 15:45:47 bah, lazy programmers Aug 30 15:46:23 Cause they eat all the time Aug 30 15:46:33 And don't stop Aug 30 15:46:41 Bloody pigs Aug 30 15:46:52 the clouds, they mock me Aug 30 15:46:54 I'm to lazy to get rid of listeners when they take like no ram to use and are killed when I destroy the object Aug 30 15:46:57 fire birds at 'em!!! Aug 30 15:47:49 They take processor power too checking for events that will never occur Aug 30 15:48:06 not with node! :p Aug 30 15:49:33 I'm glad ares does 90% of object creation destroyation for mehhhh Aug 30 15:49:45 :S Aug 30 15:50:05 that way it's a real challenge tracking down what it didn't kill off :P Aug 30 15:50:58 Hoe did hackathon go? Aug 30 15:51:09 How as well Aug 30 15:51:23 pretty good...next one will be better now that we all got a crash course in git Aug 30 15:51:42 download Relego and check it out Aug 30 15:51:55 Rego = webos app? Aug 30 15:52:04 the hackathon app Aug 30 15:52:29 Alrighty Aug 30 15:55:53 we're still working on it Aug 30 15:57:43 it MIGHT have some bugs Aug 30 15:57:58 aka it don't work, right? Aug 30 15:58:49 smartgit sure doesn't work Aug 30 15:59:00 it's very very tupid Aug 30 15:59:03 stupid, even Aug 30 15:59:39 lol Aug 30 16:00:05 oh, you must've downloaded the "opposite day" build Aug 30 16:00:14 get stupidgit instead Aug 30 16:00:25 * halfhalo just uses... git Aug 30 16:00:40 HattCzech_work is on windoze Aug 30 16:02:04 yeah, and i just end up using the git command prompt Aug 30 16:02:14 :p Aug 30 16:02:31 which is annoying since smartgit was recommended :/ Aug 30 16:02:40 by whom? Aug 30 16:03:00 That one guy? Aug 30 16:03:30 cygwin + X + gitk Aug 30 16:04:17 bbl Aug 30 16:04:51 Isn't git-cola supposedly the most fully featured git gui for windows? Aug 30 16:05:26 no idea :D Aug 30 16:07:36 gui shmeui Aug 30 16:08:13 msysgit Aug 30 16:13:10 anyone here going to ces? Aug 30 16:14:08 I wish Aug 30 16:15:26 heh, booked my hotel yesterday Aug 30 16:17:03 i'll be going Aug 30 16:17:09 halfhalo: where you staying? Aug 30 16:17:15 Excalibur Aug 30 16:17:21 Purely due to price Aug 30 16:17:28 came out to 500 for 5 nights Aug 30 16:18:55 when is it? Aug 30 16:19:03 nice Aug 30 16:19:09 Jan 6-9 Aug 30 16:19:18 but yeah, it is excalibur ;) Aug 30 16:19:31 * Anivrom|pre just had a 10 minute long theoretical dsicussion with someone on the finer points of inception and its controversial endong Aug 30 16:19:31 lol Aug 30 16:19:47 I had a friend who stayed at a 50 a night hotel for e3 in LA Aug 30 16:19:53 We named it the murder den Aug 30 16:19:55 :p Aug 30 16:24:20 Anivrom|pre: It keeps spinning! Aug 30 16:24:43 Hah Aug 30 16:24:54 Idk, heard very good points on either side Aug 30 16:30:41 afternoon all Aug 30 16:30:52 murnin Aug 30 16:33:19 Hey bhodder Aug 30 16:34:00 hows it going today Aug 30 16:35:26 Not too bad. Just got back from a week long holiday so I'm a grouch :P Aug 30 16:35:52 My grandma is convinced tims puts drugs in their coffee to make it more addictive Aug 30 16:36:28 lol I've heard that one too Aug 30 16:36:41 what is "tims" ? Aug 30 16:36:54 Tim hortons Aug 30 16:37:04 The starbucks of canada Aug 30 16:37:34 Except they do alot more. Aug 30 16:37:44 Oki Aug 30 16:38:06 Thats a good way to describe it, never though of that before Aug 30 16:39:45 Bhodder: have you seen inception? Aug 30 16:40:09 Anivrom|pre, not yet but want to. is it anygood? Aug 30 16:40:23 Best movie I have ever seen Aug 30 16:40:43 oh really Aug 30 16:41:06 Its so intellectual, matrix + fightclub * 100 Aug 30 16:41:17 nice :) Aug 30 16:41:47 You have to think during the movie or you'll have to watch it 3 times. Aug 30 16:41:59 Like oceans 11. Really clever Aug 30 16:42:58 ohhh ok, oceans 11 is awesome as well Aug 30 16:44:24 I agree. Its my 2nd fav movie Aug 30 16:44:28 So clever Aug 30 16:47:36 agreed Aug 30 16:56:57 Anivrom|pre, did you stay in ontario for your vacation? Aug 30 16:57:21 Yea Aug 30 16:57:44 Cochrane ontario. Grandparents own 130 acres of bush/farmland Aug 30 16:58:09 Wow thats a good place to go for a vacation Aug 30 17:00:30 How do i find out why my app lags? :/ Aug 30 17:02:05 hmm Aug 30 17:02:26 It gets worse for every scene i push Aug 30 17:21:54 This is so funny Aug 30 17:22:04 I got bunch of good reviews, then bunch of bad reviews following that Aug 30 17:31:32 * DougReeder waves hello Aug 30 17:33:12 hello, DougReeder Aug 30 17:41:19 Anyone seeing an uptick in back-to-school type sales? Aug 30 17:46:36 wahahahaha Aug 30 17:54:09 not that I've noticed Aug 30 17:55:11 I don't expect an uptick in salse until there is a new device. (talking to YOU Palm/chuqui) Aug 30 17:55:23 or sales, either Aug 30 17:55:25 * DougReeder smiles Aug 30 17:55:33 look! a puppy! Aug 30 17:56:10 oh, and look, the puppy is acrrying a webos tablet! Aug 30 17:56:24 carrying. Aug 30 17:57:01 chuqui, got any photos of you holding a blacked-out device? Aug 30 17:57:05 with a webos wristwatch instead of a collar! Aug 30 17:58:29 or even a blacked-out puppy? Aug 30 17:59:44 DougReeder: those aren't blacked out devices. Those are tiny black holes, slowly sucking him into another dimension. Aug 30 17:59:59 good times.... Aug 30 18:00:02 I hope HP has life insurance on him, then. Aug 30 18:00:30 can you say "job opening?" Aug 30 18:00:39 Yes, yes I can Aug 30 18:02:07 Huh, hadn't heard that HP bought Aperture Science. Wonder how that slipped past the bloggers. Aug 30 18:03:06 hoooly crap.... znc no likey trillian Aug 30 18:11:14 [waving goodbye] Okay, back to writing unit tests. Aug 30 18:11:53 any webos101 admins handy? Aug 30 18:16:46 chuqui: what's up re: webos101? (I am not an admin) Aug 30 18:17:32 just wanted to ask them a couple of questions on something. Aug 30 18:17:42 oic Aug 30 18:17:54 NOTHING BAD. REALLY. Aug 30 18:17:57 (grin) Aug 30 18:18:01 dun dun Aug 30 18:22:47 any french and/or spanish speaking comrades in here? Aug 30 18:25:01 french or spanish speaking soviets? getting pretty specific aren't you? Aug 30 18:29:45 chuqui: ping roy-pre101 Aug 30 18:29:58 Hola Aug 30 18:30:06 (08:09:40 PM) chuqui: any webos101 admins handy? Aug 30 18:30:18 chuqui: You rang? Aug 30 18:30:33 yup. Aug 30 18:30:40 don't do it...its a trap! Aug 30 18:31:39 the soviets have excellent language skills Aug 30 18:32:50 Admiral "haeffb" Akbar Aug 30 18:34:02 all kinds of love for webosworld all of a sudden Aug 30 18:34:26 hey chuq, is there any competition after pdk? Aug 30 18:34:42 and is palm going to do a quality based app rather than quantity based app? =| Aug 30 18:35:15 quality being subjectivea dn quantity much less so, I'd guess "no" Aug 30 18:35:36 quality as you can find judges from different place Aug 30 18:35:48 hp, palm executive etc. Aug 30 18:35:53 and dinner with hp and palm executive, etc Aug 30 18:38:19 and I would guess (hope) that there will be a hybrid app contest Aug 30 18:38:36 lol =) Aug 30 18:38:57 there will be a webos tablet one for sure i'd think Aug 30 18:39:18 Hot Apps Hybrid edition Aug 30 18:39:26 all 15 apps will be automatic winners Aug 30 18:39:33 haha Aug 30 18:40:51 it'd be cool if they did a Design Awards Aug 30 18:40:57 keep the users out of this Aug 30 18:41:04 case in point: pootie pants Aug 30 18:41:36 from my experience, users will get tricked into anything... Aug 30 18:41:46 especially if its adult related Aug 30 18:41:49 ya Aug 30 18:41:52 RAWR Aug 30 18:42:04 picture of a tight ass in jeans = downloads Aug 30 18:45:33 Nyceane: we haven't announced anything about the next contest. but we've talked aobut it. I keep whispering "design awards", so we can, like, award quality apps. Aug 30 18:45:49 but nothing's in stone right now. but we like doing them. and giving away money. Aug 30 18:46:00 I like money Aug 30 18:46:04 money likes me Aug 30 18:46:13 you need a contest that favors me Aug 30 18:46:25 2010 SugarDave awards Aug 30 18:46:33 lol Aug 30 18:46:37 It would fail Aug 30 18:46:46 "The Most Fucked Up Way to Accomplish Things" contest Aug 30 18:46:59 i would win Aug 30 18:47:04 By a landslide Aug 30 18:51:34 neato! is pretty cool Aug 30 18:51:49 thats what she said Aug 30 18:54:23 what is neato! Aug 30 18:56:24 http://www.precentral.net/how-use-neato-send-stuff-your-browser-your-webos-phone-video Aug 30 18:56:37 send-to-phone tool (similar to chrome-to-android-phone tool) Aug 30 18:57:54 cool Aug 30 19:00:15 Part 2 of my tutorial "Introduction to webOS SDK Development" is now online: http://bit.ly/bLw7uJ Aug 30 19:00:17 covering lists Aug 30 19:02:08 do you cover lazy loaded filterlists? Aug 30 19:02:22 cuz I need help with that! Aug 30 19:03:08 * sugardave is on the edge of needing to tackle lazy list loading in general. Aug 30 19:03:17 chuqui: when will us little guys have a chance to get into the Featured Apps app that is always featured? Aug 30 19:05:54 normal lists are prettt simple, but filterlists look like the have a bug... Aug 30 19:06:17 my filter list works OK Aug 30 19:06:22 but just OK, not great Aug 30 19:06:30 lazy loaded? Aug 30 19:06:55 haeffb: sorry, not yet Aug 30 19:07:03 haeffb: What bug with filterlists? Aug 30 19:07:20 my filterFunction is not called after the initial load Aug 30 19:07:27 whwn scrolling Aug 30 19:08:02 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4291 Aug 30 19:08:26 so only the first 50 items are shown Aug 30 19:09:01 renderLimit: 20 and lookahead: 15 Aug 30 19:09:20 20 + 2 * 15 = 50 Aug 30 19:09:28 lies Aug 30 19:11:26 maybe i'm doing it wrong Aug 30 19:11:37 or not doing it hard enough Aug 30 19:11:42 yelling always works Aug 30 19:11:55 can't hurt Aug 30 19:11:59 define lazy loaded Aug 30 19:12:04 so is there any way to make a long-running HTTP request to listen to a stream of data? Aug 30 19:12:10 in webOS, that is Aug 30 19:12:24 I can do it in the browser Aug 30 19:12:29 but not sure about in app Aug 30 19:12:44 using xhr-long polling with a node server Aug 30 19:12:46 hey all Aug 30 19:12:49 mmmm Aug 30 19:12:50 no Aug 30 19:12:58 codeslaw_: loading additional items as the list is scrolled Aug 30 19:13:02 oh Aug 30 19:13:03 yes Aug 30 19:13:14 gallery in paintr is lazy Aug 30 19:13:18 so this would be a direct network connection to Twitter to grab data from their streaming shizzle Aug 30 19:13:21 otherwise i'd be preloading 6k images Aug 30 19:13:40 I don't think an interim server app is a kosher option unfortunately Aug 30 19:13:47 hmmmm Aug 30 19:14:04 how do you setLength? Aug 30 19:14:13 if you're curious to see it, do curl http://betastream.twitter.com/2b/user.json -u username:password Aug 30 19:14:30 it'll spit out events as JSON one per line Aug 30 19:14:41 hmm Aug 30 19:14:49 I'll look when I get to work in like 5 minutes Aug 30 19:14:53 The update for checkers will wipe settings, do you think I should add a migration function to preserve settings? Aug 30 19:15:18 kesne: screw users! Aug 30 19:15:26 thats what she said Aug 30 19:15:46 haeffb_pre: That's what I'm thinking Aug 30 19:15:53 They can change the settings back to what they want Aug 30 19:15:57 Forget them Aug 30 19:16:08 Finally rewrote the settings system in Checkers Aug 30 19:16:26 Allows for Checkers shop to be integrated Aug 30 19:16:53 ok, its xhr looks like Aug 30 19:16:54 :p Aug 30 19:17:38 brb Aug 30 19:25:28 funkatron: its doable Aug 30 19:27:02 do-able! Aug 30 19:27:10 no Aug 30 19:34:10 @chuqui, please bring up the idea of having dinner with palm president, etc =| Aug 30 19:34:13 and hp Aug 30 19:34:15 i'd really want that lol Aug 30 19:34:36 or at least a ticket at hp developer conference, being honored there or something Aug 30 19:36:40 Nyceane: only if I"m there as chaperone. Aug 30 19:37:31 lol Aug 30 19:51:38 hi there Aug 30 19:52:12 Robdor: I've seen that you did a small test with PDK and chipmunk Aug 30 19:52:13 hi! im new can you tell me what webos is? Aug 30 19:52:51 i rly need 2 kno rite nao Aug 30 19:52:53