**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 10 02:59:57 2010 Sep 10 03:00:02 i like css Sep 10 03:01:43 sugardave: so here's my problem now. I need the opacity to jump up to 100% and have a "cool down" wher eit fades to 0 Sep 10 03:02:20 sigh, photoshop cs4 crashes everytime i try to move a layer... Sep 10 03:02:30 wow Sep 10 03:02:38 never had that one before Sep 10 03:03:05 first time a i run it Sep 10 03:03:09 after the first time, it won't crash Sep 10 03:03:14 but its guaranteed the first time Sep 10 03:03:48 Anivrom: isn't that what you have? Sep 10 03:03:54 nope Sep 10 03:03:58 you start with 100% Sep 10 03:04:05 if you set it in the html Sep 10 03:04:10 Yea but it has to be a repetitive process on demand Sep 10 03:04:14 just for sugardave: http://bash.org/?505731 Sep 10 03:04:46 Anivrom: oh, I see...transforms/transitions MUST reverse themselves symmetrically Sep 10 03:04:52 Yea Sep 10 03:04:55 which is my problem Sep 10 03:05:11 okay, well if you knew that limitation, I don't know why we had this discussion Sep 10 03:05:17 I didnt know that limitation Sep 10 03:05:30 oh, now you learned something :D Sep 10 03:05:34 :P Guess I kinda made it sound lik eI did with the "yea" statement Sep 10 03:06:00 Yea I learned that I'm screwed Sep 10 03:06:20 I wanted to avoid having to use canvas for this bit :/ Sep 10 03:06:21 haeffb: ha, that one is funny Sep 10 03:06:27 codeslaw: she's still playing Sep 10 03:06:39 but she likes sparkly things Sep 10 03:07:31 * Gu1l7y_work Loves fishin lures and ufo's... Sep 10 03:08:22 Gu1l7y_work: ufos and alien beer rulez Sep 10 03:08:51 Anivrom: there might be a way to cheat and make it do it Sep 10 03:08:58 ohh please tell Sep 10 03:09:14 I've tried just about everything I can read up on/think of Sep 10 03:09:16 well, it goes like this (impromptu): Sep 10 03:09:21 ... Sep 10 03:09:29 * Anivrom braces for a ficticious fix Sep 10 03:10:07 you modify the speed portion of the transition after you fade it out Sep 10 03:10:19 can you do that? Sep 10 03:10:28 I guess just replace the class with a 0s class Sep 10 03:10:36 and reset back to the original value after you fade it back in Sep 10 03:10:38 I tried that though Sep 10 03:10:50 But I might not have done it correctly Sep 10 03:10:59 How would I go about modifying the speed through js? Sep 10 03:11:03 no, with .setAttribute('-webkit-transition', 'new string of transition shit'); Sep 10 03:11:04 or should I just have a 2nd class Sep 10 03:11:15 oh ok Sep 10 03:11:23 not .setAttribute Sep 10 03:11:35 setStyle>? Sep 10 03:11:43 yeah, but that changes the syntaxt Sep 10 03:11:45 hang on Sep 10 03:12:03 .setStyl({'-webkit-transition': '...'}); Sep 10 03:12:07 .setStyle Sep 10 03:12:34 this MIGHT work Sep 10 03:12:36 and the "..." stuff is same syntax as the css Sep 10 03:12:41 yep Sep 10 03:12:47 hmm Sep 10 03:12:55 so should I even bother with classes? Sep 10 03:13:01 I might as well setStyle the whole way Sep 10 03:13:23 it's generally a bad idea to mix the style code into the logic too much, IMO Sep 10 03:13:47 but for special cases, it may be the only thing you can do Sep 10 03:16:29 launching..... Sep 10 03:19:49 ...BOOM... Sep 10 03:20:15 I'm pretty sure it works Sep 10 03:21:01 well... Sep 10 03:21:17 it fades out fine, just never jumps to 100% opacity Sep 10 03:21:41 http://pastebin.com/5nfqAw5R Sep 10 03:22:12 I tried 0.1 cause 0 wasnt working Sep 10 03:22:35 although I realise that wouldnt work Sep 10 03:22:45 cause it wouldnt have enough time to scale up Sep 10 03:23:37 just for the hell of it, try this: http://pastebin.com/ivbSX4FD Sep 10 03:23:43 Anivrom: ^^^ Sep 10 03:23:46 this.tapLineGlowRef.setStyle({"-webkit-transition":"none"}); Sep 10 03:23:48 haha Sep 10 03:24:00 I had typed that in as you pasted it Sep 10 03:24:10 heh Sep 10 03:24:18 launching Sep 10 03:25:35 ...BOOM... Sep 10 03:26:04 basically. Doesn't work Sep 10 03:26:13 it never jumps to 100% opacity Sep 10 03:26:30 which technically it should Sep 10 03:27:23 because I check this.tapLineGlowRef.style.opacity before I apply the webkit transition cooldown code and its 1 Sep 10 03:27:51 perhaps webkit doesn't like such shenanigans Sep 10 03:28:09 pretty gay Sep 10 03:28:27 Thats a huge oversight imo Sep 10 03:28:51 it's following the spec Sep 10 03:28:58 how so? Sep 10 03:29:13 transitions/transforms must reverse themselves symmetrically Sep 10 03:29:30 why would they make that a part of the spec? what purpose would it serve? Sep 10 03:29:41 it just limits the developer Sep 10 03:29:51 talk to the w3c Sep 10 03:30:02 I wish Mojo.animation supported freakin opacity Sep 10 03:30:09 that would solve my woes Sep 10 03:30:23 starting value and ending values are MANDATORY Sep 10 03:33:05 this.tapLineGlowRef.setStyle({"opacity": "1","-webkit-transition":"none"}); proper syntax? Sep 10 03:33:22 .. are you kidding me .. Sep 10 03:33:25 looks right Sep 10 03:33:34 this website doesnt allow new user registrations between 10pm and 3am Sep 10 03:33:39 Anivrom: oh no Sep 10 03:33:50 for opacity Sep 10 03:33:57 that shouold probably not be a string Sep 10 03:33:59 ah right Sep 10 03:34:02 but it might not matter Sep 10 03:34:04 ? Sep 10 03:34:13 launching.... Sep 10 03:34:39 * Anivrom drum roll for haeffb's ...BOOM... joke Sep 10 03:35:25 Anivrom: are you sure you can use "-" with setStyle, I always thought that was a no go, which is why I went to classes and addClassName instead Sep 10 03:35:36 you can Sep 10 03:35:36 ? Sep 10 03:35:47 looks like my car loan switched companies again.. first it was Chrysler Finanicial then before my first payment was due Citi Financial took the loan, and now it appears Santander has it now Sep 10 03:35:50 Its inside the string, why wouldnt it be allowed Sep 10 03:36:06 what I think doesn't work is this: .style['-webkit-transition'] = '...'; Sep 10 03:36:36 bah doesn't work anywyas Sep 10 03:36:47 Looks like I'm moving this to the main loop :/ Sep 10 03:37:40 wait a second...if the intent is to fade something to nothing then instantly have it appear again, why not just loop some code that makes the thing at fully visibile and does the slow fade-out? Sep 10 03:38:02 Manually? Sep 10 03:38:08 hardly Sep 10 03:38:30 You mean do my own loop instead of css transitions? Sep 10 03:38:36 I mean, sure, you have to .addClassName Sep 10 03:38:44 no, it will still use transitions Sep 10 03:38:51 ok ellaborate Sep 10 03:38:56 I have prolly tried it Sep 10 03:39:03 Anivrom: did you find that code earlier any more helpful than my terrible explanation? Sep 10 03:39:07 your loop just re-makes whatever it is at full opacity, you fade it out, delete it, make a new in the loop Sep 10 03:39:13 alexfner: not really Sep 10 03:39:39 haha, I am sorry Sep 10 03:39:52 sugardave: the problem is, I need to to jump to 100% on screentaps Sep 10 03:40:01 So that could be at any time Sep 10 03:40:04 okay, then make the object on screen tap Sep 10 03:40:12 and then fade it out via transition Sep 10 03:40:19 Oh I see, make a div dynamically? Sep 10 03:40:22 yeah Sep 10 03:40:29 That would trigger gc Sep 10 03:40:32 :( Sep 10 03:40:41 what doesn't? Sep 10 03:40:46 its possible Sep 10 03:41:02 Currently my code doesn't trigger gc. Sep 10 03:41:08 Only 1 part which will be fixed Sep 10 03:41:27 in this minigame that is Sep 10 03:41:31 my main game is a mess Sep 10 03:41:33 :P Sep 10 03:42:14 GC absolutely cannot be triggered in this game. Sep 10 03:42:29 the taps have to be precise. its a guitar hero type game Sep 10 03:42:43 except with the theme of my game, which you know Sep 10 03:43:06 Oh well I'll just animate it myself Sep 10 03:43:14 like I do in the main game Sep 10 03:43:17 last option I can think of, since you have a cockblock for all the other ones, hide the div after is fades out and set it's opacity back to 1 at that time, unhide it on screen tap Sep 10 03:43:45 CockBlock? lol Sep 10 03:43:56 Meaning I refuse to do it? Sep 10 03:45:39 And the user will be tapping teh screen before the div fades out sometimes, so I'll be hiding it while it's showing, then unhiding it, resulting in flicker. And will it even allow me to jump to 100% if the div is unhid. Didnt think that made a difference Sep 10 03:46:00 if the div is hid* Sep 10 03:53:52 Anivrom: just use an animated gif like this http://www.e-pond.info/images/frog.gif, and everything will be alright Sep 10 03:54:43 Problem is I dont think it would reset the gif animation if I set the src as itself Sep 10 03:54:54 I need it to reset instantly Sep 10 03:55:12 I thought about that idea though Sep 10 03:55:42 tbh I forgot about it, thanks Sep 10 03:56:14 Anivrom: is there an example on the web, of what you are trying to do? send me a link Sep 10 03:56:24 I'm sure there isnt Sep 10 03:56:29 like the effect i mean Sep 10 03:56:32 But its not conceptually hard to grasp Sep 10 03:57:05 i am in wallet mode, not code mode right now Sep 10 03:57:30 but i am always working on image shite Sep 10 03:58:46 Well there are many many ways to accomplish what I'm trying to do, I'm just sour cause the most performance efficient way is not possible Sep 10 04:00:29 * Anivrom blames oil Sep 10 04:00:51 * halfhalo does as well Sep 10 04:01:56 just blame BP Sep 10 04:03:04 :/ Sep 10 04:03:13 lol Sep 10 04:03:40 boy not sure if i feel like making another wallet tonight Sep 10 04:04:04 * halfhalo hates css Sep 10 04:04:58 CHEERS Sep 10 04:05:01 I am actually starting to like it Sep 10 04:05:34 i kile css Sep 10 04:05:36 like Sep 10 04:09:20 Anivrom: you want an element to appear and dissapear? with like a fade? Sep 10 04:09:47 Well, essentially I want 100% opacity at time:0 and by time:end 0 opacity Sep 10 04:10:01 But the catch is, it has to scale up to 100% instantly on demand Sep 10 04:10:41 I just programmed it via adjusting my img divs opacity in a loop Sep 10 04:10:56 But the more performance efficient way would be to use css transitions Sep 10 04:11:01 did you try -webkit-transition: none Sep 10 04:11:05 yar Sep 10 04:11:08 tried everything Sep 10 04:11:10 to change it back Sep 10 04:11:26 me and sugardave tried everything Sep 10 04:13:49 you haven't tried everything :) Sep 10 04:13:55 -_- Sep 10 04:17:15 booo 0 days left in trial of alien skin eye candy 6 Sep 10 04:22:13 Anivrom: for example if i have a slider, you want the image to go from transparent to opaque? Sep 10 04:22:30 instantly Sep 10 04:22:36 but then fade out over 2 seconds Sep 10 04:23:00 or w/e Sep 10 04:24:45 Anivrom: will not work on anything tonight, but will in the morning Sep 10 04:29:02 Anivrom: i may have your answer --> http://fx.inetcat.com/manuals.php Sep 10 04:29:28 scroll towards the bottom Sep 10 04:29:36 and there is a play button Sep 10 04:31:08 a flying saucer fades in and out etc... Sep 10 04:31:15 -_ Sep 10 04:31:15 on demad Sep 10 04:31:19 on demand Sep 10 04:31:51 Well technically I need the reverse to happen. Sep 10 04:31:56 It fades in slow Sep 10 04:32:00 I need it to fade out slow Sep 10 04:32:24 and I'm not looking for a bloated library cause it would be way too much overhead I think Sep 10 04:32:38 That library is meant for desktop use Sep 10 04:32:47 When plenty of cpu is avaible :P Sep 10 04:32:55 available? Sep 10 04:34:30 it is tiny Sep 10 04:34:49 http://fx.inetcat.com/ Sep 10 04:35:25 its bloated compared to the 4 lines of code I used to do it myself :P Sep 10 04:35:55 lol Sep 10 04:35:57 oh yeah Sep 10 04:36:28 hey Sep 10 04:36:33 ok so you want something opposite to the flying saucer thingy? right using prototype? Sep 10 04:36:33 those "hide app" patches Sep 10 04:36:45 dont relaly work I know Sep 10 04:36:47 can you still find the app in universal search? Sep 10 04:37:08 LoneStar99: I dont think I'll find what I'm looking for its ok. Sep 10 04:37:11 I'll just move on Sep 10 04:37:19 wasted too much time on this already Sep 10 04:39:49 sugardave: usually has all the answers, so if his recommendations did not work, then not sure... Sep 10 04:40:03 mhmm Sep 10 04:44:05 i use sugardave's cookie system for all my apps, it rocks Sep 10 04:44:26 I use haeffb's sql system for my apps, it rocks harder Sep 10 04:44:31 :O Sep 10 04:49:03 have not messed with sql stuff on the mobile, all my sql stuff is on the cloud somewhere Sep 10 04:49:29 tried it a couple nights ago, and it failed miserably Sep 10 04:49:36 whoops, wrong screen Sep 10 04:50:37 daddysmurf: chatroullete again? Sep 10 04:51:20 :P Sep 10 05:08:55 yep yep Sep 10 05:09:55 lets say I have an element
${foo}
and I want to fill it with foo = "
adsf
", what would I have to do to make it not escape my string? Sep 10 05:10:18 so the raw output would be
asdf
Sep 10 05:12:08 nm Sep 10 05:17:11 daddysmurf:
this.controller.get("abc").innerHTML = '
'; Sep 10 05:21:12 Schleeeeepz Sep 10 05:21:16 night all Sep 10 05:23:09 I'd say good morning Sep 10 05:26:12 moring teemu Sep 10 05:35:49 mornin Sep 10 05:36:03 anyone in here use stack overflow Sep 10 05:36:06 ? Sep 10 05:37:34 should I? Sep 10 05:39:38 great souce for answers Sep 10 05:39:45 and nice on a resume Sep 10 05:39:59 and apparently, a good beginner app for me Sep 10 05:43:31 daddysmurf: yeah good place for hookers Sep 10 05:44:24 it is a good place for answers, when they come up with answer in search Sep 10 05:48:10 http://www.perrymarshall.com/articles/religion/godels-incompleteness-theorem/ Guy uses Godels incompleteness theorem to prove the existence of god Sep 10 05:48:18 later on down another guy refutes him in the comments Sep 10 05:48:21 interesting stuff Sep 10 05:49:12 it seems pretty interesting Sep 10 05:51:13 I'm more interested in the theorem, as I don't see it applying to god Sep 10 05:54:46 yeah very interesting stuff Sep 10 05:55:29 interesting too http://gnymb.us Sep 10 05:56:02 werd Sep 10 05:56:24 looks like eclipse to me Sep 10 05:56:42 LoneStar99: wanna hear a crazy song? Sep 10 05:57:10 not crazy Sep 10 05:57:11 yeah why not Sep 10 05:57:12 just interesting Sep 10 05:57:14 http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Name+Game/2qX55X Sep 10 05:58:05 listening Sep 10 05:59:55 interesting Sep 10 06:00:29 you sent me the link some time ago about a drawing song right? Sep 10 06:00:36 oh Sep 10 06:00:41 yeah, that isn't this though ahh Sep 10 06:01:39 some cool music forsure Sep 10 06:03:16 I got more Sep 10 06:03:33 it's good stuff for when you're... Sep 10 06:03:40 having a good time Sep 10 06:03:52 yeah ... lol Sep 10 06:05:21 how would I get the active scene's assistant from the stage controller? Sep 10 06:05:24 do you have a good subwoofer? Sep 10 06:05:37 daddysmurf: for what purpose? Sep 10 06:05:49 daddysmurf: what are you trying to do? Because the premise of the question is somewhat confusing Sep 10 06:06:11 alexfner: I want to implement a refresh button, which appears to be caught within the stage controller Sep 10 06:06:15 you want to get the name of the currently displayed scene's assistant? Sep 10 06:06:25 i have some earphones on now Sep 10 06:06:30 http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Way+More/1UkQ2r Sep 10 06:06:35 needs killer bass Sep 10 06:06:36 so I need to call the scene's assistant's refresh method Sep 10 06:07:02 silly question here, but can you just call it in your scene? Sep 10 06:07:43 I don't think so, not using the standard command menu api Sep 10 06:07:59 hmm give me a moment to figure this out Sep 10 06:08:08 if you please :) Sep 10 06:09:01 ok Sep 10 06:09:10 alexfner: yeah need some killer bass here Sep 10 06:09:47 I've got a pair of bose headphones that were a gift Sep 10 06:09:54 and otherwise an okay computer sound system Sep 10 06:10:02 but man daedelus rocks this stuff Sep 10 06:10:08 listening to him now Sep 10 06:10:24 alexfner: if I can figure it out, this will be in the car tomo Sep 10 06:10:29 the song* Sep 10 06:10:45 alexfner: I figured out the command button Sep 10 06:10:59 apparently it trickles down, so I can catch it at the stage or the scene Sep 10 06:11:16 alexfner: just got some shitty system here Sep 10 06:12:20 so you can just call it? LIke StageAssistant.boringMethod? Sep 10 06:13:27 no, I moved the handleCommand method to my scene assistant Sep 10 06:14:36 oh haha Sep 10 06:14:38 I see Sep 10 06:15:46 fans of daedelus? Sep 10 06:17:31 yeah i like the daedelus Sep 10 06:18:08 http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Sundown/2s5Jc4 Sep 10 06:19:41 that is cool Sep 10 06:20:37 just wish i had more beer. Sep 10 06:21:00 hahaha Sep 10 06:21:06 run out? Sep 10 06:21:21 on the last Sep 10 06:21:26 which? Sep 10 06:21:42 brew Sep 10 06:22:50 good song Sep 10 06:23:07 like all the werid sounds Sep 10 06:26:13 alexfner: i have my own theorem about a thing or two it has to do with particles that humans still can not isolate or do shit with. and yet it is one of our senses. Sep 10 06:26:29 hahaha Sep 10 06:26:36 that's a rather poorly worded theorem Sep 10 06:27:10 How many programmers does it take to change a light bulb? Sep 10 06:27:34 2^1 Sep 10 06:27:42 DORK JOKE TIME Sep 10 06:27:49 None. its a hardware problem Sep 10 06:27:56 EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT FROM 2:24AM TO 3:00AM Sep 10 06:28:05 lol! Sep 10 06:28:08 ET Sep 10 06:28:11 All times ET Sep 10 06:28:12 I'll hold you to that! Sep 10 06:28:25 if your times are not ET, you need to convert them to ET or get out! Sep 10 06:28:35 we only accept ET time in here! Sep 10 06:28:40 * Gu1l7y_work On the floor lol'ing Sep 10 06:29:03 LoneStar99: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Magic+Says/22MLMk CRANK THE BASS Sep 10 06:29:38 JOKE TIME GUYS LOL: What's the binary equivalent of this sentence? Sep 10 06:29:47 ... Sep 10 06:29:50 idk. Sep 10 06:29:53 Answer: How am I supposed to know, I'm not a computer! Sep 10 06:29:56 HA HA H AH HA HA Sep 10 06:29:59 lol Sep 10 06:30:02 HA AH AHA Sep 10 06:30:08 my guts are bursting Sep 10 06:30:14 hope not... Sep 10 06:30:16 all over the place, guts Sep 10 06:30:29 at the end, if this can be made to work just like a digital camera, then we will be about advanced as the most intelligent beings Sep 10 06:30:40 * Gu1l7y_work shakes head Sep 10 06:31:24 another good one guys: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Name+Game/2qX55X Sep 10 06:32:42 we would be able to capture things that are floating Sep 10 06:33:05 LoneStar99: the one I just sent is really hot, check that out Sep 10 06:35:51 ok listening to it now Sep 10 06:36:29 lol Sep 10 06:37:49 go Sep 10 06:37:50 god Sep 10 06:38:04 I am listening to a guy who took jazz samples and mixed them together Sep 10 06:38:09 and broke them apart too Sep 10 06:38:13 it's so great Sep 10 06:38:19 link? Sep 10 06:39:41 http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Kind+of+Laid+Back/6P9UY Sep 10 06:40:39 birdy namnam Sep 10 06:41:55 yes, do you like? Sep 10 06:42:10 until now yes Sep 10 06:43:32 and now? Sep 10 06:43:34 no? Sep 10 06:50:32 alexfner: very nice! have a GN Sep 10 06:51:07 GN? Sep 10 06:52:02 yeah, ran out of brew, and need to find my path home Sep 10 06:53:32 what's a GN? Sep 10 06:55:13 can someone dns detroitneonowners.org and tell me what they get Sep 10 06:55:59 dawm: If you're reading this then we're switched over to the new servers. We'll be back shortly. - dawm Sep 10 06:56:08 thats not DNS'ing ;p Sep 10 06:56:17 but thankx Sep 10 06:56:53 I figured that was what you wanted? Sep 10 06:57:28 that works, i was just looking to see if the domain resolved the proper IP Sep 10 06:57:40 detroitneonowners.org. 14296 IN A 66.33.197.73 Sep 10 06:57:44 but i got the answer i needed Sep 10 06:58:19 dawm: near detroit? Sep 10 06:58:36 yeah about 20mins with no traffic Sep 10 06:58:40 i work at metro airport Sep 10 06:58:50 have we had this conversation before? Sep 10 06:58:52 I am in a2... Sep 10 06:59:02 2 people is enough to have a webOS meetup in a2 Sep 10 06:59:07 possibly, were you out of town not to long ago? Sep 10 06:59:15 are your parents Sep 10 06:59:19 er at Sep 10 06:59:31 hmmm... yes Sep 10 06:59:33 I was Sep 10 06:59:49 then we've had the conversation before :P Sep 10 06:59:54 werd Sep 10 07:13:39 lol. I was just reading funny Irc chats and I switch over and see this... Sep 10 07:14:50 alexfner do you know the band? Sep 10 07:15:02 anyone thows a dev meetup thing in washington, ill show up :) Sep 10 07:18:15 hotdp: no? do you? Sep 10 07:18:37 * alexfner didn't realize Flying Lotus was the great nephew of John Coltrane Sep 10 07:18:52 I mean I don't know them personally Sep 10 07:19:00 which is what I thought you meant for some reason Sep 10 07:19:11 i was :D Sep 10 07:20:14 how many of them did you have "relations" with? :) Sep 10 07:20:47 I'm going to need some help pulling my application off the device, as I just lost the only working source code I had Sep 10 07:21:05 and by "just lost" I mean, lost it months ago and have been too embarrassed to admit Sep 10 07:22:40 lol Sep 10 07:24:46 haha Sep 10 07:26:07 Going through all my old word documents i found one that said "Note to Self: Get revenge on oil..".... Sep 10 07:26:13 So I went with it. Sep 10 07:26:37 what did you do? Sep 10 07:26:55 I don't remember anymore. Sep 10 07:27:05 never happened Sep 10 07:27:36 Wouldn't you hope that it already has though? Sep 10 07:27:44 One less thing to worry about. lol Sep 10 07:34:26 the joke is that in 50 years oil will be irrelevant Sep 10 07:34:55 and instead those that control nuclear, wind, and solar power, and the best battery technology and manufacturing will be the new superpower in the world Sep 10 07:35:04 it's true Sep 10 07:35:47 from the makers of google instant search comes Google future Search Sep 10 07:35:53 * Gu1l7y_work looks at the time. Sep 10 07:36:02 Joke time is over remember? Sep 10 07:36:11 ...who's joking? Sep 10 07:36:11 ONLY SERIOUSNESS! Sep 10 07:38:16 * Gu1l7y_work looks at time. Sep 10 07:38:43 Can we have joke time from 3:34 - 4:00 also? Sep 10 07:38:45 ET? Sep 10 07:43:39 ofcourse Sep 10 07:43:41 not Sep 10 07:44:00 Ok, I digress.. Sep 10 09:35:54 importing 2.2million records into a databse is boooooring Sep 10 09:38:31 dawm must be boring to do manually ;PO Sep 10 09:39:13 oh im not, but it just finished ;p Sep 10 10:32:34 is it possible to listen to the keyboard inputs at any time ? Sep 10 10:33:58 brb, gotta reboot Sep 10 11:04:49 so... anybody knows how I can listen to what's typed on the keyboard ? Sep 10 11:06:08 I know it is possible Sep 10 11:06:18 BUT do you need sym to work? Sep 10 11:06:43 sym? Nah, I don't care... I just need to implement cheat codes to help developping a game Sep 10 11:06:59 That should be possible Sep 10 11:07:08 i googled it and found it Sep 10 11:07:23 But if i remember right, you get a ascii code Sep 10 11:07:24 I didn't Sep 10 11:07:38 ok 1 sec i load my project Sep 10 11:07:39 that doesn't matter much... But how do you listen to the keyboard ? Sep 10 11:07:53 1 sec Sep 10 11:07:55 k Sep 10 11:10:15 handleKeyPressEvent: function(event) {} Sep 10 11:10:25 console.log(event.type); Sep 10 11:10:34 console.log(event.keyCode); Sep 10 11:10:41 and ect. console.log(event.shiftKey); Sep 10 11:10:53 you can then use the keyCode Sep 10 11:12:07 what do you bind that handler to ? Sep 10 11:12:28 nothing Sep 10 11:12:42 kiddin g:P Sep 10 11:12:54 this.controller.listen(this.controller.document, 'keydown', this.handleKeyPressEvent.bind(this)); Sep 10 11:13:06 anything else? Sep 10 11:13:20 that should do it, thanks :) Sep 10 11:13:29 np Sep 10 13:29:30 Hmm Sep 10 13:32:14 Wow webworkers is really easy to use. Wonder when it will be implemented in webos Sep 10 13:42:08 really ? Sep 10 13:42:09 sounds nice Sep 10 13:42:54 I'm not saying its coming. Just wonder if/when it will Sep 10 14:03:02 Wolvenhaven: how good is that homebrew you made? Sep 10 14:40:07 I want to convert videos with vlc so i can watch them on my pre. can somebody provide recommended options? Sep 10 14:57:16 Txt-file: good question. I think anything mpeg4 would work. Sep 10 14:57:18 it's about sam adam's light quality Sep 10 14:57:24 and it was my first try Sep 10 14:57:37 so i'm assuming i can get to microbrew/import quality in a few months Sep 10 14:57:40 Don't quote me on that as I don't have the resources to look it up atm Sep 10 14:57:54 We don't have sam adams light in canader Sep 10 14:58:07 Wolvenhaven: good stuff Sep 10 14:58:21 What's it end up being per bottle? Sep 10 15:00:16 Anivrom|pre: tried to convert using mp4 container with h-264 and AAC. if i try to play the file i get "error playing the file" Sep 10 15:00:40 anyone knows how to use setTimeout in mojo ? I have scope problems with it Sep 10 15:07:16 Anivrom|pre: did u get your fade issue sorted out/ Sep 10 15:08:01 Famic. This.timoutObject = setTimeout(this.timeoutFunctionBind, time in milliseconds) Sep 10 15:08:29 TimeoutFunctionBind = this.timeoutfunction.bind(this) Sep 10 15:09:00 Then to stop it just clearTimeout(this.timeoutObject) Sep 10 15:09:11 LoneStar99: no Sep 10 15:09:50 Famic: does that help? Sep 10 15:12:15 Anivrom|pre: not really Sep 10 15:13:11 I practically gave you the code O_o Sep 10 15:13:58 and it practically doesn't work at all (even without the typos) ;p Sep 10 15:14:15 Impossible Sep 10 15:14:32 http://pastebin.com/EVUuWpSc Sep 10 15:14:34 I use intervals instead of timeouts Sep 10 15:15:07 I get "error: Uncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'pushScene', app/assistants/splash-assistant.js:40" Sep 10 15:16:18 And I suppose that's the scope issue you talked about? Sep 10 15:16:41 indeed Sep 10 15:16:51 Lol Sep 10 15:17:18 Famic: this.controller.stageController.pushScene Sep 10 15:17:44 Controller doesn't have a method pushscene indeed Sep 10 15:17:59 It never does the pushes Sep 10 15:18:12 Or pops Sep 10 15:18:47 I see :D Sep 10 15:20:00 ty Sep 10 15:20:34 I copied the puschene function from stageAssitant instead of any other Sep 10 15:21:36 ? Sep 10 15:22:00 Famic:Does it work now Sep 10 15:22:07 yeah, ty Sep 10 15:23:15 Alternatively you can do Mojo.Controller.stageController.pushscene. I think its a matter of preference but I might be wrong Sep 10 15:28:55 Famic: you have a splashscreen scene that pushes main after 2 seconds? Sep 10 15:29:05 idd Sep 10 15:29:13 ? Sep 10 15:29:20 indeed Sep 10 15:29:49 It doesn't appar you are popping the splash scene, are you? Sep 10 15:29:58 now, yes ;) Sep 10 15:29:59 use swapScene Sep 10 15:30:10 Yea was gonna say Sep 10 15:30:31 Just use swapScene which pushes main and pops splash automagically Sep 10 15:30:34 I don't want the splashscreen scene anymore after I launch the intro Sep 10 15:30:41 sorry i was doing stuff Sep 10 15:30:57 so pop then push is alright Sep 10 15:30:58 Yea swapScene{"main"}; Sep 10 15:30:59 Famic: then you definitely want to use swapScene instead Sep 10 15:31:09 Anivrom|pre: it comes out to like $.40 a bottle or so if you ignore the equipment and time as sunk cost Sep 10 15:31:25 Interesting Sep 10 15:32:13 Famic: instead of .pushScene use .swapScene. No params or args change, just the name of the method. And get rid of the popScene code too Sep 10 15:32:32 but it was $350 for an intermediate level equipment kit, and it's $25-30 a 5 gallon ingredients kit, and it takes about 6-8 hours total time over the course of 2 months to make a batch Sep 10 15:32:48 LOL Sep 10 15:33:00 How does that work out to 40 cents a bottle? Sep 10 15:33:14 because $25-30 makes 5 gallons Sep 10 15:33:16 which is 54 bottles Sep 10 15:33:18 Anivrom|pre: ok Sep 10 15:33:34 i said ignoring the equipment and time as sunk cost Sep 10 15:33:42 it's a hobby as much as it's cheap beer Sep 10 15:34:02 :P Sep 10 15:35:14 sob Sep 10 15:35:16 i want my money back Sep 10 15:35:25 UPS "garentied 2 day shipping" my ass Sep 10 15:35:34 lol Sep 10 15:35:37 ordered it yesterday, it's going to get here on the 13th Sep 10 15:35:39 Yay sugardave surfaces, now I can pick his brain with a sticky question. Sep 10 15:35:51 Or anyone else knowledgable Sep 10 15:35:52 * sugardave is broken. Sep 10 15:35:54 * halfhalo gets almost everything next day from newegg or amazon Sep 10 15:36:05 * halfhalo fixes sugardave with a dr pepper Sep 10 15:36:29 mmmm Sep 10 15:37:44 So take this code for example: myVar.prototype = { //vars here, myFunctionVar = function() {}} Sep 10 15:37:57 Var@= new myVar Sep 10 15:38:08 OH GOD THE CLASSES Sep 10 15:38:13 heh Sep 10 15:38:17 THEIR TAKING EVERYTHING OVER Sep 10 15:38:43 So I can shorten my scope chain in this way correct? Sep 10 15:39:12 now, the main question here is whether I can be arsed to deploy this project using cap or not Sep 10 15:40:13 downloading komodo edit 6.0 --> sweet! Sep 10 15:40:19 Anivrom|pre: so you can just use Var.myFunctionVar instead of myVar.myFunctionVar ? Sep 10 15:40:34 and save 2 chars ? :P Sep 10 15:41:07 wooo! git be BROKEN! Sep 10 15:41:25 Anivrom|pre: let me show you my "don't use new" way to create a class Sep 10 15:43:17 Anivrom|pre: http://webos101.com/Mojo_Database_Helper_Objects#dbColumn Sep 10 15:43:27 not the greatest example in the world, but it's simple Sep 10 15:43:56 so you basically create a function that returns an object containing all the methods/functions and properties you want for the class Sep 10 15:44:31 and when you're ready to make a new object of that class, you do var aNewThing = thingConstructor(args...); Sep 10 15:46:22 Well my question which I neve got around to using was, when I execute functions within my new class such as var.myFunction()... Inside myFunction "this" now becomes var instead of my scene's "this" right? Sep 10 15:46:45 yes Sep 10 15:46:47 Using = asking Sep 10 15:47:01 because js is function scope Sep 10 15:47:20 Which is how I wanted to shorten my scope chain Sep 10 15:47:52 Like alexfner was trying to explain to me yesetrday Sep 10 15:48:35 The goal is to get the most used vars to become local vars since local vars lookup alot faster Sep 10 15:50:05 Is what I gather from my readings on js optimization Sep 10 15:51:07 * halfhalo is going to slap Anivrom|pre for over optimizing his stuff Sep 10 15:51:15 I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to do when I figure it out my code should execute alot faster Sep 10 15:52:03 What's wrong with squeezing more performance out of each cycle so you can add more to your game? Sep 10 15:52:17 Games are alot different than regular apps Sep 10 15:53:13 And I'm only now realizing how wasteful my coding habits are Sep 10 15:54:12 Such as using $ inside a loop instead of referencing this.controller.get('element') Sep 10 15:55:50 are they not equivalenet? Sep 10 15:56:13 Especially since the minigame I'm working on takes 90% of the mainLoop time just drawing my moving BG's Sep 10 15:56:41 Yea they are I just used them intermittently in that statement Sep 10 15:57:29 It's the refeencing part I wanted to draw attention to :P Sep 10 15:57:52 Referencing* Sep 10 15:58:18 you mean like var element = this.controller.get('element'); and then just using element? Sep 10 15:58:29 Yea Sep 10 15:59:27 At 30 times a second that's alot of cpu savings Sep 10 15:59:54 Especiallt if you're doing 7 of them at 30 times a second like I was lol Sep 10 16:00:13 Along with all my other main loop code Sep 10 16:00:32 hell, I do the lement thing anyways, but thats because I'm lazy Sep 10 16:00:40 AND the element thing Sep 10 16:01:21 my ids are a mile long, so I pretty much have to reference everything Sep 10 16:04:06 Heh. Sep 10 16:05:06 I also like to make vars that represent the widgets...it holds their attributes, model, and id Sep 10 16:05:58 hello all! Sep 10 16:06:04 :O any reason why? Sep 10 16:06:08 no se ingles! Sep 10 16:06:12 LA FIESTA! Sep 10 16:06:16 LA FIESTA!!!! Sep 10 16:06:24 convenience, mostly Sep 10 16:06:51 I'm still having problems with dynamic widget creation... I've put together a specific, simplified case: http://pastebin.com/9M44DbTZ Any advice appreciated! Sep 10 16:07:31 Gogo gadget sugardave Sep 10 16:08:45 I have a weird bug whith a list widget : the end rows are covered by a grey area (cf http://www.ringabell.org/temp/tmp.jpg ) Sep 10 16:08:54 until I try to scroll Sep 10 16:09:04 then it goes back to normal (right part of the jpg) Sep 10 16:09:06 Heh. Its a known bug Sep 10 16:09:29 any known workaround ? Sep 10 16:09:34 bugs? no wai! Sep 10 16:09:59 Famic: try searching forums I think I saw it on there Sep 10 16:10:30 kinda hard to find decent keywords for that issue :/ Sep 10 16:10:41 Mhmmm Sep 10 16:11:23 Just type in list problem. You'll find it sooner or later :D Sep 10 16:13:12 * Anivrom|pre is thoroughly disappointed in the size of his wrap in his 3.99 snack box combo from kfc Sep 10 16:15:16 http://webos101.com/List seems to propose a workaround :) Sep 10 16:17:52 \o/ Sep 10 16:19:01 Famic: another alternative solution is to blame oil and tell him to fix HIS bug Sep 10 16:19:11 oil ? Sep 10 16:19:22 yup Sep 10 16:19:31 wth is oil ? :D Sep 10 16:19:34 Although at the rate that guy works you could build a whole new app Sep 10 16:19:39 A guy Sep 10 16:20:00 Who is the sole reason usa has such a high deficit Sep 10 16:20:05 lol Sep 10 16:20:12 pretty powerful guy then :D Sep 10 16:20:20 The one reason why there is civil war in the world Sep 10 16:20:28 The reason why kittens die every day Sep 10 16:20:31 clintandrewhall: man, first of all you're using phonegap and I'm not sure anybody here has messed with it much (if at all) AND you're trying to use Drawers, which I personally hate Sep 10 16:20:44 You see famic, Everything is oils fault Sep 10 16:20:45 dolphins too I assume Sep 10 16:20:54 Even dolphins Sep 10 16:21:06 basatrd Sep 10 16:21:20 sugardave: true, but the sceneController is just a reference to the controller provided by the scene assistant... it should port, no? Sep 10 16:21:22 Scratch that.... ESPECIALLY dolphins Sep 10 16:21:29 Think of poor echo :( Sep 10 16:21:40 lmao Sep 10 16:21:57 clintandrewhall: that part is working, it's the internal setupWidget on the drawer that's failing for whatever reason Sep 10 16:22:16 Echo was by far the coolest dolphin in existence... Sep 10 16:22:20 why oh why has my app not been appoved yet... been days... Sep 10 16:22:26 oh oh oh Sep 10 16:22:27 sugardave: is there any way I can diagnose it? Sep 10 16:22:30 clintandrewhall: I think I know why Sep 10 16:22:31 That is until oil MURDERED HIm Sep 10 16:22:43 sugardave: awesome! what do you think? Sep 10 16:23:00 hang on a phone call Sep 10 16:23:15 I have come out with two stable release versions since I submitted it... and I can't update it because it hasn't been reviewed yet... Sep 10 16:23:23 Sep 10 16:23:37 sugardave: no worries Sep 10 16:23:51 Anivrom|pre: lol, btw, I blame oil Sep 10 16:24:24 he killed echo, which made the palm reviewers sad because their childhood hero is dead... which lowers their morale, which makes them work slower... Sep 10 16:24:25 \o/ see! Sep 10 16:24:28 see, oil's fault Sep 10 16:24:31 I heard oil was in florida recently... Sep 10 16:24:42 oil was on vacation in the Gulf Sep 10 16:24:44 Excellent logic! Sep 10 16:24:45 clintandrewhall: so, setupWidget wants an actual element, so instead of "toc", pass t (since you already are using t to hold that element) OR you would change "toc" to this.controller.get('toc') as the first arg for setupWidget Sep 10 16:25:05 sugardave: ah... let me try that Sep 10 16:25:15 so it isn't a rant focused at palm, it is focused more at the WOSI gui guy, lol Sep 10 16:25:25 (which I am totally allowed to do) Sep 10 16:25:26 Sugardavian webOS help FTW Sep 10 16:26:42 allQuestions(directedTowards:"sugardave"); Sep 10 16:26:58 that path is fraught with misery and despair Sep 10 16:27:07 workaround at webos doesn't seem to fix the list issue :/ Sep 10 16:27:07 * halfhalo makes popcorn Sep 10 16:27:13 Lol Sep 10 16:27:18 oh popcorn! Sep 10 16:27:29 Famic: sucks Sep 10 16:27:42 not sure if I'm doing it right though Sep 10 16:27:50 damn, my dropbox is full.....AGAIN! Sep 10 16:27:56 That would be important I guess Sep 10 16:28:03 * halfhalo blames oil Sep 10 16:28:04 sugardave: that is why I have DB and Zumo Sep 10 16:28:20 cryptk|work: because of u i cant do my work :S Sep 10 16:28:26 once you maximize/unhide the notification area, is there a way to minimize/hide it again? Sep 10 16:28:38 they say "However, if the list exceeds 20 items, only the first 20 will be re-rendered after calling modelChanaged. In other words if you are staring at items 25-35, tap on an item to update that item, you will see a white screen until you scroll (allowing the list to be re-rendered). The workaround for this is to use mojo.noticeUpdatedItems(offset, listModel). " Sep 10 16:28:39 sugardave: inspector shows no node changes at all Sep 10 16:28:49 Oil: quit hacking into sugardaves dropbox and filling it with donkeypr@ns Sep 10 16:28:51 clintandrewhall: well, did the error go away? :D Sep 10 16:28:57 and I tried "this.controller.get("levelSelector").mojo.noticeUpdatedItems(0, this.levelModel);" Sep 10 16:29:03 sugardave: LOL IRL Sep 10 16:29:08 sugardave: sure did! Sep 10 16:29:14 Famic: that looks right Sep 10 16:29:15 progress! Sep 10 16:29:32 not sure about the offset (0) or the listWidget declaration (this.controller.get("levelSelector")) Sep 10 16:29:50 clintandrewhall: seriously, though...I hate drawers, I usually just end up faking them by hiding/unhiding some wrapper div Sep 10 16:29:51 No both are correct Sep 10 16:29:59 You wanna start from index 0 Sep 10 16:30:18 sugardave: yeah, I started with just the classnames and transitions Sep 10 16:30:20 thought so. Bu well... that doesn't fix anything :( Sep 10 16:30:31 sugardave: but I wanted to play with instantiating widgets Sep 10 16:30:40 sugardave: which ironically is prolly what palm is doing under the hood, with alot more fluff! Sep 10 16:30:52 sugardave: meh, I think you're right... I think I'll just trust my own CSS skills? :-) Sep 10 16:31:24 clintandrewhall: don't do it! Css will turn on you in an instant Sep 10 16:31:25 en0x: what did I do? Sep 10 16:31:47 clintandrewhall: check this out: http://webos101.com/Pseudo-Drawers_In_A_List Sep 10 16:32:02 Anivrom|pre: LOL... well, I can't get the SDK to work! Sep 10 16:32:22 sugardave: awesome, thanks for that Sep 10 16:33:34 en0x: how am I keeping you from doing your work? Sep 10 16:33:51 I am curious of your logic, I thought everything was oil's fault Sep 10 16:34:17 but honestly, so far, nothing in Mojo has really worked... and is the Animator.animateStyle documentation wrong? http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1853&Itemid=241#.animateStyle Sep 10 16:34:28 the example doesn't match the details Sep 10 16:34:33 hahahaha Sep 10 16:34:34 hahahaha Sep 10 16:34:37 hahaha Sep 10 16:34:40 sorry Sep 10 16:34:50 I'm laughing with you Sep 10 16:35:09 Animation.animateStyle you mean? Sep 10 16:35:27 yeah, sorry, mistyped Sep 10 16:35:52 Most likely. Mojo.animation is half baked at this point Sep 10 16:36:13 Ah... I suppose I can use Prototype, but I wanted to use as much of the SDK I could Sep 10 16:37:04 I was using XUI, but there's a bug in Emile... http://github.com/brianleroux/xui/issues#issue/43 Sep 10 16:37:12 something unique to WebOS Sep 10 16:38:09 I guess other browsers will eval childNodes even if the parent is not a part of the DOM Sep 10 16:41:11 * Anivrom|pre wishes he knew what that meant Sep 10 16:44:44 Anivrom|pre: basically, that code takes a style declaration and applies it to a fresh node... then it pulls the style object off that node, (to make sure you're not adding a style that isn't allowed) Sep 10 16:44:46 clintandrewhall: you can evaluate nodes that aren't part of the DOM, but you have to create an element for them to be in first...something like: var notInDOM = document.createElement('div'); notInDOM.innerHTML = theContentsYouWantToEvaluate; Sep 10 16:44:54 There's no way to tab on the pre right? Sep 10 16:45:08 sugardave: that's what Emile does... but it's failing Sep 10 16:45:55 I guess its an "optimization feature" Sep 10 16:46:07 sugardave: if you look at the bug link I posted, you can see the test case that fails Sep 10 16:46:33 clintandrewhall: for example, I' Sep 10 16:46:37 m using this: http://pastebin.com/FfYFqjMe Sep 10 16:47:32 sugardave: hmmm... Sep 10 16:47:44 clintandrewhall: I would expect that to fail, since innerHTML was set to nothing Sep 10 16:47:45 Sugardave: what's $A shorthand for? Sep 10 16:47:55 $A is short for AWESOME Sep 10 16:48:03 hah Sep 10 16:48:05 lies Sep 10 16:48:14 sugardave: I just noticed the bug reporter removed my tag markup Sep 10 16:48:34 $A lets you take a nodeList and turn it into a Prototype Enumerable Sep 10 16:48:40 so things like .each work Sep 10 16:48:42 sugardave: that line is actually: parseEl.innerHTML = '
'; Sep 10 16:48:57 clintandrewhall: ah, interesting Sep 10 16:48:59 anyone knows who runs webos101.com ? I know he's in chan... Sep 10 16:49:09 Famic: that's Roy-Pre101 Sep 10 16:49:11 Lol Sep 10 16:49:50 I'm gonna slap him for his not working fix ;D Sep 10 16:49:50 sugardave: there, fixed it Sep 10 16:50:10 sugardave: so, yeah... no idea why that fails... Sep 10 16:50:12 and maybe tell him about "hidden" links toward astrology sites on his wiki :D Sep 10 16:50:23 Haha Sep 10 16:50:46 clintandrewhall: weird....I haven't specifically tried childNodes, but firstChild is working in mine Sep 10 16:52:08 is there a way to force the refresh of a list widget ? Sep 10 16:52:15 sugardave: yeah, that's null when I try that test case Sep 10 16:53:12 that's really strange...I would bet bug in Emile Sep 10 16:53:18 Famic: noticeUpdatedItems is how to force it Sep 10 16:53:37 Or modelChanged(this.listModel); Sep 10 16:54:05 Anivrom|pre: I use modelChanged since the beginning, but noticeUpdatedItems doesn't seem to fix the rendering issue as it should Sep 10 16:54:21 I was looking for a more global rendering trigger Sep 10 16:54:22 Hmm Sep 10 16:54:37 .activate() Sep 10 16:55:01 sugardave: on what? The scene or the widget? Sep 10 16:55:03 sugardave: that all happens in .activate() Sep 10 16:55:20 well; in dbLoaded triggered by it, actually Sep 10 16:55:21 if I want to force refresh of a scene, I just recall its activate method Sep 10 16:55:51 but that can have MAJOR undesired consequences if you're doing lots of things there Sep 10 16:55:58 it all depends Sep 10 16:57:02 Famic: What's this? Sep 10 16:57:16 It doesn't appear as if that will fix the problem Sep 10 16:57:16 Roy-Pre101 \o/ Sep 10 16:57:33 Famic: What links? Sep 10 16:57:40 http://webos101.com/WebOS101:About Sep 10 16:57:44 err Sep 10 16:57:46 He awakens... Sep 10 16:57:49 http://webos101.com/Help:Contents Sep 10 16:57:51 From his beauty sleep Sep 10 16:58:00 there is "horoskop 2010 raka" at the bottom Sep 10 16:58:08 that leads to a page... etc. Sep 10 16:58:19 ooops Sep 10 16:58:43 Hmm, never saw that somehow. Sep 10 16:58:48 I try to review it for spam regularly. Sep 10 16:58:59 lol Sep 10 16:59:00 fixed Sep 10 16:59:03 Roy-Pre101: but my main concern is the fix on http://webos101.com/List for list bigger than 20 elements that don't render well Sep 10 16:59:12 as it doesn't seem to fix anything :/ Sep 10 16:59:18 All horoscope redirections are intentional unless expressed otherwise Sep 10 16:59:22 Already blocked that person Sep 10 16:59:30 Guess I didn't review all the pages. Sep 10 17:00:08 I swear I deleted that page. Sep 10 17:00:20 http://webos101.com/List#Dynamic_Lists Sep 10 17:00:56 right after "modelChanaged" ;p Sep 10 17:02:07 Ah, I was looking for more spam. :) Sep 10 17:02:09 Famic: cheat, make the render limit higher Sep 10 17:02:50 Famic: Well, then you need to find the answer and update the wiki. :) are you sure you're doing it right? Sep 10 17:03:17 I guess the mistake I made with that spammer was that I thought I set it to rollback all his changes but apparently didn't/ Sep 10 17:04:26 is it me or is eclipse 3.6 slower than 3.4x Sep 10 17:06:16 sugardave: how would you do that ? Sep 10 17:06:28 Famic: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1921 Sep 10 17:06:32 Kfc grease makes the pre keys nice and slippery for easy typing :D, Sep 10 17:06:40 you set 'renderLimit' in the attributes Sep 10 17:06:41 Plus it makes your pre taste yummy Sep 10 17:08:49 Famic: it's only going to work if you know the final length of the list Sep 10 17:09:06 sugardave: it works well :) thank you Sep 10 17:09:11 np Sep 10 17:09:18 I know it's less than 100 ;) Sep 10 17:09:23 haha Sep 10 17:10:54 Famic, it just slows your list down a bit cause it renders as many elements as you specify Sep 10 17:11:04 But its a necessary evil Sep 10 17:11:15 well, I want them to be rendered! So... Sep 10 17:12:30 f-ck the new eclipse is freaking slow Sep 10 17:12:41 more RAM Sep 10 17:12:46 need more RAM Sep 10 17:13:31 lol, it is the stupid eclipse, version 3.6 Sep 10 17:14:32 usually have like 10 programs running with like 50 tabs on 3 browsers open, no problem, today running half of that and eclipse is lagging Sep 10 17:15:17 * Anivrom|pre blames oil Sep 10 17:15:50 yeah oil is to blame, for the slow-ass eclipse 3.6 Sep 10 17:17:09 You need lucasoil. Peforms *up to* 50% faster than conventional oils. Sep 10 17:18:33 * Anivrom|pre replaces enery drink with pepsi in cup holder Sep 10 17:19:04 Cafffiiieeeene Sep 10 17:20:25 got to love complaints from a free app... Sep 10 17:20:46 "useless" --> d-ckhead the app is free! Sep 10 17:21:50 somebody ought to set up a 3rd-party app review site where devs and users can duke it out in an open forum. Like "The Flaming Hand" forum that I used to read a lot on mudconnector Sep 10 17:22:14 and there could be voting "How stupid is this user?" Sep 10 17:23:40 LoneStar99 is just mad cause he lost his lucky stars :P Sep 10 17:23:45 (I would be too) Sep 10 17:24:12 i have .5 star rating on my app Sep 10 17:24:31 Which app? Sep 10 17:24:43 Oh bobchatter Sep 10 17:24:47 well, it's obvious that users are liars as well as ignorant. My guy STILL hasn't given me the 5-star he promised if the Utah Utes were included in the app (of course they were already included when he got it, but don't let facts get in your way) Sep 10 17:25:01 f-ck it, if it continues like that will get rid of the free version, f-ck the complainers Sep 10 17:25:08 I mean he even wrote it in his review: 5 stars if you include the Utah Utes Sep 10 17:25:14 WHERE IS MY 5-STAR RATING, ASSHOLE? Sep 10 17:25:27 LOL Sep 10 17:25:42 Anivrom|pre: the paid version has has a 4 or 5 rating and free is .5 Sep 10 17:26:41 Interesting, guess its like they say, you don't appreciate something unless you paid for it :P Sep 10 17:27:38 Anivrom|pre: yeah it is a very weird social behavior i have discovered Sep 10 17:27:59 is this for bobchatter? Sep 10 17:28:12 nope for B* Chatr Sep 10 17:28:47 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.bobchatter.chatr Sep 10 17:28:56 you should make the free version so they can just read the other chats...then when they go to make their own, let them type type type, but when time to submit, pop up an alert "Sorry, you cheap-ass bastard, download the paid version" Sep 10 17:28:59 Lol Sep 10 17:29:16 yeah that is a good idea Sep 10 17:29:41 that is awesome Sep 10 17:30:00 Or only allow a maximum of 5 characters in the send textfield at a time. That would be even more annoying :P Sep 10 17:30:10 heh Sep 10 17:30:23 Its like shooting someone in the kneecap instead of the head Sep 10 17:36:21 I think when I have an update ready for iHS, I will make the "beta notes" dialog be addressed specifically to Garrett B and call him out for his ignorance and lying. That ought to help. Sep 10 17:36:24 ffffffffff rails Sep 10 17:36:32 can't convert ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone into time Sep 10 17:36:47 ... Sep 10 17:37:18 sugardave: lol Sep 10 17:37:28 LoneStar99: lol Sep 10 17:39:49 i built text2voice http://uoid.me/bc4 from bob chatter technology took like 4 hours to build, does 1% of what bob chatter does, and it sells for almost the same price and has a 4 rating, --> how about them apples!! Sep 10 17:40:42 They taste sour Sep 10 17:42:31 OH LKHASDLHSDAFaLHAERG Sep 10 17:42:58 * halfhalo cries in a corner Sep 10 17:44:34 halfhalo: some sort of encrypted message - aye... Sep 10 17:45:06 * Anivrom|pre sniffles. Bye chuqui Sep 10 17:45:16 I hate rails right now Sep 10 17:45:29 private method `gsub!' called for Wed Aug 11 10:37:41 -0700 2010:Time is a RETARDED error Sep 10 17:45:44 there is always PHP Sep 10 17:46:01 Don't get me started Sep 10 17:46:57 hello chuqui Sep 10 17:47:20 halfhalo: yeah better not, but working on php code here =) Sep 10 17:48:19 hey! Sep 10 17:49:58 oh thats just not fair rails.... Sep 10 17:51:05 Chuqui! You can PM me about all upcoming NDA devices if you want :) I won't complain. Sep 10 17:52:17 I promise not to be that "anonymous tipster" on the frontpage of precentral Sep 10 17:52:48 * halfhalo cries Sep 10 17:53:50 PM halfhalo too. Sounds like he needs some joy Sep 10 17:54:23 rails... why do you hate me Sep 10 17:56:18 will up one, chuqui you can mail me a prototype device if you would like =) Sep 10 17:56:50 Will one up, you can MAIL me a prototype device Sep 10 17:57:10 Note the caps Sep 10 17:57:49 Anivrom|pre: nice Sep 10 17:58:32 In internets-land, everything is better with caps Sep 10 17:58:37 YUP Sep 10 17:58:42 EVERYTHING Sep 10 17:58:54 LOL! Sep 10 17:58:55 turn off ur caps Sep 10 17:58:58 :P Sep 10 17:59:03 Shunnnnn Sep 10 17:59:08 WHAT CAPSLOCK? Sep 10 17:59:09 ...SHUUUNNN Sep 10 17:59:12 'nother one up... you can LET ME DESIGN a prototype device. It'll be awesome. promises. Sep 10 17:59:13 i prefer using SHIFT INSTEAD! Sep 10 17:59:16 THIS IS ALL WITH SHIFT BOI Sep 10 17:59:47 CAPSLOCK IS FOR NOOBS WHO CANT TYPE LOLOLOL Sep 10 18:00:44 I will one day be so proficient at tying on the pre keyboard I won't have to look down. Sep 10 18:00:54 Hey everyones got dreams! Sep 10 18:02:30 "follow your dreams! (except that one where you're naked in church)" lol? Sep 10 18:08:50 Hey, gurus.. When doing function(classVar) how do I access it with this? this.classVar does not work, does it? Sep 10 18:09:40 you would have to go this.classVar =classVar don't you? Sep 10 18:10:54 Well there's a problem with that. I need to check first if this.classVar exists so I can't do it like that. Sep 10 18:11:31 if(!this.classVar) this.classVar=classVar Sep 10 18:12:03 In that case it's checking for classVar and not the parameter value Sep 10 18:12:30 then replace it with classVar... Sep 10 18:12:56 wtf is acts_as_ferret..... Sep 10 18:13:14 Sounds like a function.. :) Sep 10 18:18:54 Sfh Sep 10 19:08:01 heyo Sep 10 19:14:38 bought the game rob, love it Sep 10 19:14:43 Thanks :) Sep 10 19:14:52 I'm glad that it is finally in the catalog. Sep 10 19:14:53 how long did you wait for approval? Sep 10 19:14:59 8 days Sep 10 19:15:03 damn! Sep 10 19:15:08 that really blows Sep 10 19:16:35 From forum talk it looks like some people were waiting 10+ days for approval. Sep 10 19:20:38 Robdor: cannon glow is in catalogue? Sep 10 19:21:13 Yep, it's called Plasma Cannon these days. Sep 10 19:21:54 So now I can just sit back and watch the millions roll in right? ;) Sep 10 19:30:46 Robdor: number of levels is 60 or so? Sep 10 19:31:21 in a scene assistant, why would this.controller be undefined? Sep 10 19:32:52 Anivrom|pre: It's 50, with an update on the way that bumps it up to 60. Sep 10 19:33:10 daddysmurf: I actually have the same issue. Has to do with me swapScene'ing I think Sep 10 19:33:25 Pushing main when its already pushed idk Sep 10 19:33:35 I've been putting that bug off Sep 10 19:33:56 I just back gesture to my real main scene which is as I left it Sep 10 19:34:46 Robdor: purchased Sep 10 19:35:17 Anivrom|pre: Thanks Sep 10 19:35:59 anyone know, on tab of div, screen focus is taken to bottom of scrolling content? Sep 10 19:36:04 once robdor gets 1 million people he's going to use it to turn everyone into zombies Sep 10 19:36:42 I haz antizombie genome Sep 10 19:37:33 I'm looking forward to commanding my zombie horde. Sep 10 19:37:37 lol Sep 10 19:37:52 that was such a perfect futurama episode Sep 10 19:37:58 they got apple perfectly Sep 10 19:45:26 daddysmurf: it sounds like your 'this' is getting lost somewhere before you call this.controller.get()....where do you do that? http://webos.pastebin.com Sep 10 19:56:30 ncaafootball.com's schedule markup is HORRIBLY BAD Sep 10 19:56:56 randomly not closing or ? wth is wrong with people? Sep 10 19:57:41 mmmmm college football Sep 10 19:58:56 sugardave: "it works, ship it" Sep 10 19:59:25 thats what she said Sep 10 20:00:21 when she completed the code? Sep 10 20:00:29 mebe Sep 10 20:02:11 Wife is at an asian mall browsing and just sent me this text Sep 10 20:02:14 There is a shirt here that says "the beating is why my heart beat so fast" LOL its supposed to be a cute love tshirt. Sep 10 20:02:57 lost in translation Sep 10 20:03:05 Ahh those aians Sep 10 20:03:10 Asians* Sep 10 20:03:17 http://www.precentral.net/app-gallery/app-catalog/back-that-thang-up Sep 10 20:03:19 lols Sep 10 20:04:32 * Anivrom|pre has coded 20+ lines of his app in internalz and hasn't had to open lumberjack once \o/ Sep 10 20:04:45 yay? Sep 10 20:05:11 Darn right yay. Means I'm not making stupid mistakes :P Sep 10 20:05:30 Like I usually do when coding on my pre Sep 10 20:05:48 * oil never codes from pre Sep 10 20:05:57 * halfhalo never codes at all Sep 10 20:06:00 unless its at my desk through ssh with vi :) Sep 10 20:06:10 i know, all halfhalo does is blame me Sep 10 20:06:13 * Anivrom|pre works 12 hours a day Sep 10 20:06:18 yup! Sep 10 20:06:20 thats far too much work Sep 10 20:06:31 I blame oil for halfhalo blaming you Sep 10 20:06:37 damnet Sep 10 20:06:54 oh oh oh Sep 10 20:07:07 wonder if my link is working to show oil something.... Sep 10 20:07:14 no Sep 10 20:07:16 its not Sep 10 20:08:01 I really wish my main game was this simple. I'm almost done this minigame and I just started 2 days ago Sep 10 20:08:38 hmm Sep 10 20:08:50 i wonder if we can sue BP for oil being in here Sep 10 20:08:55 :P Sep 10 20:09:23 note to self: when setting something in a flash message make sure theres a place for it to render... Sep 10 20:10:39 oh, you guys are going to love this, i found this file in my "drunk coding" eclipse workspace from 2 years ago, i never even knew i had it http://pastebin.com/CzdwjV38 Sep 10 20:11:49 i'm pretty sure i wrote it to fake a corrupted file Sep 10 20:12:10 so i could get an extension on essay writing Sep 10 20:14:03 lol, that's awesome Sep 10 20:15:04 i'm reading through all my other drunk coding files to see if there are any other gems in here Sep 10 20:15:33 it makes no sense to me because it's icky Java Sep 10 20:16:11 lol Sep 10 20:16:29 i've also got a command line driven program that has a ton of easter eggs Sep 10 20:16:46 like "cake" there is no cake, and "dr tran" I'M NOT A DOCTOR Sep 10 20:16:56 i need to seriously stop coding when i drink Sep 10 20:17:42 awww jeez, now that I'm about 85% feeling better, I am forced to watch the US Open Sep 10 20:18:50 found a cool cmd line tictactoe game and a maze traverse program Sep 10 20:19:00 ooo Sep 10 20:19:05 maze traverse is fun Sep 10 20:19:21 and it's in C Sep 10 20:19:46 boo Sep 10 20:23:11 http://pastebin.com/5HvA2e1b Sep 10 20:25:35 sugardave: is there such a thing as an "anchor" to end of content? Sep 10 20:26:04 LoneStar99: what do you mean? Sep 10 20:26:13 sugardave: tennis is great! Sep 10 20:26:26 yeah, it is awe-sum Sep 10 20:26:46 I can't wait until the Canadian Open Sep 10 20:27:18 Then again its hard to find a sport I don't like watching. Sep 10 20:27:18 Even baseball is moderately exciting Sep 10 20:27:32 no, that is wrong Sep 10 20:27:46 watching baseball on tv is one of the most boring things a person can do Sep 10 20:27:53 except watching golf on tv Sep 10 20:28:01 I don't mind watching gold either Sep 10 20:28:17 going to a baseball game is slightly better than being dead Sep 10 20:28:32 Although golf is best used as that soothing background noise for those sunday after noon naps in the lazyboy Sep 10 20:28:37 the only way to have fun with baseball is to actually be playing baseball Sep 10 20:28:52 sugardave: kinda like Go to Example 1 Sep 10 20:32:25 LoneStar99: so every tag has to be closed. Some tags (like
) don't "officially" have a closing companion (there is no
) so you're supposed to do
to denote such Sep 10 20:33:15 oh ok Sep 10 20:34:53 and while browsers will still render the table contents properly if you forget to use or here and there, it's bad practice and should be avoided...PLUS it makes it difficult for programs to consume the DOM Sep 10 20:35:02 BBL friends! Sep 10 20:35:47 sugardave: ok good to know, will make sure all my tags are complete Sep 10 20:50:42 is it possible to use sound in a mojo app ? Sep 10 20:58:26 hi there Sep 10 20:58:27 woot.. found an old USB Wifi dongle.. no more network cable running from the living room ;D Sep 10 20:58:42 \o/ Sep 10 20:58:57 does anyone have a link to a working list example? Sep 10 20:59:00 i can't find one anywhere Sep 10 20:59:04 i'm missing something Sep 10 20:59:21 even the one on developer.palm.com doesn't show the actual items Sep 10 20:59:22 MBarvian: do you need dynamic list ? Sep 10 20:59:29 Famic: yes Sep 10 21:00:37 there must be hundreds of list examples Sep 10 21:00:51 in style matters alone Sep 10 21:01:28 mojo matters will have some good list examples, as well Sep 10 21:02:02 mojo matters? Sep 10 21:02:08 is that a site? Sep 10 21:02:17 nvm Sep 10 21:02:20 sample applications that come with the SDK Sep 10 21:02:20 found it Sep 10 21:02:41 actually i didn't Sep 10 21:02:48 do you have a link to "mojo matters"? :) Sep 10 21:02:55 it's on your harddrive Sep 10 21:03:06 MBarvian: did you check the logs to find out why it wasn't showing ? Sep 10 21:03:25 no that's another thing, when I open the inspector or the debugger, it says I have to open the emulator first Sep 10 21:03:30 but the emulator's already open Sep 10 21:03:31 ? Sep 10 21:03:46 oh wait, are you using ares? Sep 10 21:03:49 nope Sep 10 21:03:51 eclipse Sep 10 21:03:52 thank god Sep 10 21:04:01 lol why? seems like a nice tool Sep 10 21:04:16 palm-log -f com.blah.app Sep 10 21:04:28 -i Sep 10 21:04:33 right Sep 10 21:04:40 is it ? Sep 10 21:04:48 Are there any Windows PDK developers around? Sep 10 21:04:49 i for inspect, I think Sep 10 21:04:52 nah Sep 10 21:04:57 palm-launch -i Sep 10 21:05:00 palm-log -f ! Sep 10 21:05:03 oh Sep 10 21:05:04 right Sep 10 21:05:16 sugardave:
is only for XHTML. It'll still render in HTML fine, but you are supposed to leave out the closing slash if your doctype is html. Sep 10 21:05:31 dgathright: ooops :D Sep 10 21:05:56 np, I still have the habit of doing it in HTML Sep 10 21:06:07 that still doesn't excuse ncaafootball.com from not closing their cells and rows :D Sep 10 21:06:16 hah, true Sep 10 21:07:14 Occasionally I'll find myself closing script tags too when they have a src attribute. Browsers def don't like that. Sep 10 21:07:37 heh Sep 10 21:13:18 hmmm, I need to make a desktop that looks at some html files in a folder and reports them and the text in the tag... Sep 10 21:13:41 <Tibfib> reports them in JSON. Sep 10 21:13:42 <halfhalo> desktop? Sep 10 21:13:54 <Tibfib> yeah Sep 10 21:13:58 <Tibfib> a windows app or something Sep 10 21:14:15 <halfhalo> ohhh..... Sep 10 21:14:23 <halfhalo> look at adobe air or titanium Sep 10 21:15:19 <Tibfib> you can use html in adobe air, right? Sep 10 21:15:28 <halfhalo> yeah Sep 10 21:15:34 <Tibfib> I'll have to check it out Sep 10 21:15:36 <Tibfib> thanks Sep 10 21:20:56 <Tibfib> whoa, there's a sample that almost does what I need Sep 10 23:26:01 <JenP> Hi all! Sep 10 23:35:38 <Tibfib> JenP: howdy Sep 10 23:35:47 <JenP> hi Tibfib Sep 10 23:40:04 <Tibfib> bah, it looks like I can't call .replace() on a string with adobe air. Sep 10 23:40:18 <Tibfib> or any string object methods... Sep 10 23:40:24 * Tibfib looks at the docs Sep 10 23:40:53 <rwhitby> G'day JenP - have you seen http://dev.webosroundup.com/ ? Sep 10 23:41:02 <JenP> hi rod Sep 10 23:41:12 <rwhitby> Everyone go to http://dev.webosroundup.com/Signup and recommend your favourite homebrew and app catalog apps! Sep 10 23:41:21 <JenP> looking now Sep 10 23:41:22 <JenP> kk Sep 10 23:41:30 <rwhitby> I wanna see a wall of homebrew ;) Sep 10 23:41:33 <Tibfib> whoa Sep 10 23:41:57 <rwhitby> (with some great app catalog apps from the fine developers in here interspersed) Sep 10 23:42:06 <Wolvenhaven> iunno about a wall of homebrew Sep 10 23:42:11 <Wolvenhaven> but here is a box of homebrew http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs216.ash2/47959_1496600849867_1079472750_31427800_6656328_n.jpg Sep 10 23:42:41 <rwhitby> Wolvenhaven: drink all of those, and you'll hit the wall of homebrew ;) Sep 10 23:42:50 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 10 23:42:57 <JenP> really nice~! Sep 10 23:43:00 <Wolvenhaven> i'll also die of dysentery Sep 10 23:43:52 <Wolvenhaven> it's unfiltered Sep 10 23:44:07 <Wolvenhaven> you don't want to injest that much yeast all at once :P Sep 10 23:45:42 <JenP> lol Sep 10 23:46:07 <Wolvenhaven> i need to find less destructive hobbies Sep 10 23:46:36 <JenP> um...folding socks? Sep 10 23:46:44 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 10 23:47:07 <Wolvenhaven> how is that a hobby? Sep 10 23:47:45 <JenP> well..you run out of socks kinda quickly so you have to go door to door and ask your neighbors... Sep 10 23:47:55 <JenP> they kinda look at you wierd though Sep 10 23:48:31 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 10 23:56:58 <Wolvenhaven> trust me Sep 10 23:57:18 <Wolvenhaven> walking out of my house and loading half a dozen gun cases and crates of ammo into the back of my truck gets me weird looks too :P Sep 10 23:57:30 <JenP> lol Sep 10 23:57:36 <JenP> I can't imagine why? Sep 10 23:57:47 <JenP> sigh...i hate airports' Sep 10 23:59:27 <Wolvenhaven> BOMB BOMB JIHAD TERRORIST EXPLOSION PRESIDENT AIRPLANE BOMB BOMB Sep 10 23:59:34 <Wolvenhaven> have fun in 45s when security tazes you Sep 10 23:59:46 <JenP> lol Sep 10 23:59:57 <Wolvenhaven> and you laugh cause you think i'm joking Sep 11 00:00:06 <Wolvenhaven> i did that to a friend of mine and he got hauled off for additional screening Sep 11 00:00:57 <JenP> nice. Sep 11 00:02:19 <rwhitby> JenP: and you need shoes to match all the folded socks, right? Sep 11 00:15:37 <halfhalo> do de do de do.... Sep 11 00:15:41 <halfhalo> makin a websites Sep 11 00:32:17 <JenP> lol Sep 11 00:32:52 <JenP> well time for me to hop on the plane...talk to you all later Sep 11 00:43:57 * Anivrom has beer Sep 11 00:44:41 <Anivrom> jus sayin... Sep 11 00:48:23 <Anivrom> 105 users... and silence Sep 11 00:49:41 <nicoya> it happens Sep 11 00:49:57 <dohtem> I will be burning Treos tomorrow! Sep 11 00:50:15 <dohtem> take that Florida! Sep 11 00:50:53 <dennyferra> wtf is Luna? Sep 11 00:51:05 <halfhalo> EVERYTHING Sep 11 00:51:22 <Anivrom> Luna is the explorer.exe of webos Sep 11 00:51:33 <Anivrom> dennyferra: ^^^ Sep 11 00:52:44 <dennyferra> ahh Sep 11 00:53:21 <dennyferra> So if my app causes Luna to restart... is there anything I should look at first? Sep 11 00:54:11 <nicoya> you should look at reducing it to a testcase and filing a bug Sep 11 00:55:41 <dennyferra> could it possibly have somethign to do with setting "bpp" to 32 on SDL_SetVideoMode ? Sep 11 00:57:44 <nicoya> why are you calling that at all? Sep 11 00:58:04 <dennyferra> working from a demo app :\ Sep 11 00:58:37 <Anivrom> Hi nicoya! Sep 11 00:58:46 <nicoya> actually I guess that should be ok, so long as you're not trying to change the actual screen mode Sep 11 00:58:50 <nicoya> hello Sep 11 00:59:02 <Anivrom> I'm friendly tonigh :D Sep 11 01:02:00 <Anivrom> Ok NO LIE this song has been stuck in my head for days... like literally Sep 11 01:02:03 <Anivrom> its driving me insane Sep 11 01:02:21 <Anivrom> its like the background music to my LIFE Sep 11 01:03:28 <nicoya> ring ring ring ring bananaphone Sep 11 01:03:48 <Anivrom> ring ring ring ring ring panana phone Sep 11 01:04:06 <Anivrom> dont need money, dont need "something" to have a real good time Sep 11 01:04:15 <Anivrom> Love that song haha Sep 11 01:05:22 <Anivrom> oh man I want sushi Sep 11 01:05:29 <Anivrom> I have all the stuff to make it Sep 11 01:05:41 <Anivrom> Just dont exactly know how to make it. The kitchen is my wifes domain Sep 11 01:06:06 <Anivrom> she made some awesome cucumber avocado rolls the other day Sep 11 01:06:11 <Anivrom> (yestrerday) Sep 11 01:06:16 <dennyferra> mmmm sushi sounds great Sep 11 01:06:25 <Anivrom> I loooove sushi Sep 11 01:06:47 <dennyferra> love spicy tuna rolls Sep 11 01:07:01 <Anivrom> Ye aman Sep 11 01:07:11 <Anivrom> Anything with that spicy mayo is amazing Sep 11 01:08:53 <Anivrom> dennyferra: If yo'ure ever in hamilton, ontario, canada (for whatever reason, like say you're trying to get to europe but you take a wrong turn) you should try the hamilton roll, I orgasm every single time I take a bite. It's basically a regular seaweed out maki but with creamcheese inside with other stuff, and then the outside is coated lightly with tempura batter and then ...... DEEP FRIED Sep 11 01:08:55 <Anivrom> so it comes out hot Sep 11 01:09:27 <Anivrom> seaweed out meaning not california roll style with teh rice on the outside Sep 11 01:09:53 <dennyferra> ahhh sounds so good Sep 11 01:10:02 <Anivrom> its soooo good Sep 11 01:10:13 <Anivrom> theres basically 2 noteworthy sushi restaurants in hamilton Sep 11 01:10:50 <Anivrom> Go tempura which is noteworthy cause its cheap,. lunch is 11.99 and you can order lunch menu all you can eat for dinner too, meaning you dont take the 20 dollar hit for dinner if you're willing to eat only lunch items Sep 11 01:10:56 <Anivrom> And the 2nd place is sushi star Sep 11 01:11:09 <Anivrom> which has the hamilton roll, but its 20 dollars for dinner and 13 for lunch Sep 11 01:11:11 <Anivrom> all you can eat Sep 11 01:11:21 <Anivrom> but its so worth it if only for the hamilton roll Sep 11 01:11:32 <Anivrom> Btw dont pay attention to me cause I have beer. Sep 11 01:11:46 <dennyferra> There's a spot out near Hollywood which is all you can eat... but if you don't eat all of it they charge you for whatever is left Sep 11 01:12:10 <Anivrom> I'm basically rambling and rwhitby is gonna get mad at me for spamming the chat logs with OffTopic stuff, which he will have to read through Sep 11 01:12:29 <Anivrom> Yea every menu says they charge for uneaten food, but I've NEVER been charged lol Sep 11 01:12:29 <dennyferra> lol Sep 11 01:13:03 <Anivrom> I'll tell you the trick. Ask for the bill and pretend you're still eating. Then when they have given you the bill, you just leave whats left and they can't charge extra for it LOL Sep 11 01:13:27 <Wolvenhaven> lol Anivrom, all i do is ramble and flood the logs with useless stuff Sep 11 01:13:31 <Anivrom> or do what my chinese inlaws do, mash it into napkins and teapots and other stuff so it "loooks" half eaten Sep 11 01:13:41 <Anivrom> and all you do is drink beeer Sep 11 01:13:46 <Anivrom> See, we are the same Sep 11 01:13:49 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:14:05 <Anivrom> youre; pracitcally my brother Sep 11 01:14:12 <Anivrom> or something O_O Sep 11 01:14:27 <Wolvenhaven> i do more than drink beer Sep 11 01:14:34 <Anivrom> :O Sep 11 01:14:47 <Anivrom> do you serve sushi? Sep 11 01:14:56 <Wolvenhaven> nope Sep 11 01:15:05 <Anivrom> then what the HECK are you good for? Sep 11 01:15:10 <Wolvenhaven> i only serve 1 raw thing, and only to women Sep 11 01:15:14 <Anivrom> HAHAH Sep 11 01:15:33 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: do you have a girlfriend? Sep 11 01:15:37 <Wolvenhaven> no Sep 11 01:15:43 <Anivrom> you should get married Sep 11 01:15:46 <Anivrom> its totally awesome Sep 11 01:15:51 <Wolvenhaven> fuck that Sep 11 01:15:55 <Anivrom> No dude Sep 11 01:15:56 <Anivrom> its great Sep 11 01:15:57 <Wolvenhaven> i get bored with girls way too fast Sep 11 01:16:00 <Anivrom> lol Sep 11 01:16:34 <Anivrom> brb time to use the white throne Sep 11 01:17:29 <dennyferra> man there was a beautiful girl downstairs this afternoon... I missed my chance at getting her # Sep 11 01:18:01 <Anivrom> was she wife potential? cause thats what its all about. Gettin a good wife Sep 11 01:18:01 <Wolvenhaven> write a bluetooth scraping program Sep 11 01:18:11 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: lol Sep 11 01:18:13 <Wolvenhaven> and use it to skim the sim card number Sep 11 01:18:31 <Anivrom> Something tells me Wolvenhaven has stalked many women Sep 11 01:18:37 <Wolvenhaven> i don't stalk women Sep 11 01:18:43 <Wolvenhaven> i've got too many women problems as it is Sep 11 01:18:48 <dennyferra> she wasn't super model hot or anything... but she just had this look that was so attractive to me... great body too Sep 11 01:19:09 <Anivrom> You know, I kinda get turned off by the supermodel look. Sep 11 01:19:14 <dennyferra> i started noticing the 3rd time she walked directly infront of me hah Sep 11 01:19:24 <Anivrom> Its so cliche Sep 11 01:19:34 <Anivrom> I like women that are peculiarly different Sep 11 01:19:43 <Wolvenhaven> lol my only problem is after a few months i just get bored Sep 11 01:19:53 <Anivrom> that IS a problem Sep 11 01:20:01 <dennyferra> she was different... didn't dress like other girls... had some brown striped pants.. kinda strange but looked really good on her Sep 11 01:20:09 <Wolvenhaven> when i can with 100% accuracy predict everything they're going to do/say in a hypothetical situation, i move on Sep 11 01:20:22 <Anivrom> LOL thats my wife alright Sep 11 01:20:26 <Anivrom> I got her down to a science Sep 11 01:20:30 <Anivrom> I say things before she does Sep 11 01:20:33 <Wolvenhaven> see i enjoy figuring people out Sep 11 01:20:34 <Anivrom> then we laugh Sep 11 01:20:36 <Anivrom> :P Sep 11 01:20:42 <Wolvenhaven> and once i've figured them out, it doesn't interest me any more Sep 11 01:20:56 <Wolvenhaven> the only girl i'm not bored with is my best friend Sep 11 01:21:10 <dennyferra> hoping I see her tomorrow Sep 11 01:21:12 <Anivrom> Tonigth is the first night we will spend sleeping apart since we got married a little over a year ago. she is at the inlaws an hour away. Sep 11 01:21:13 <Wolvenhaven> she's constantly interesting Sep 11 01:21:29 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:21:29 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: perfect wife material Sep 11 01:21:37 <Wolvenhaven> she's too abusive Sep 11 01:21:41 <Anivrom> LOL Sep 11 01:22:01 <Wolvenhaven> i make fun of her and she either gets really sad and upset, or hits me Sep 11 01:22:03 <Anivrom> YOu said earlier today " you dont think anyone would mess with you" and then you complain about an abusive women? Sep 11 01:22:14 <dennyferra> lol Sep 11 01:22:19 <Wolvenhaven> well this is different Sep 11 01:22:22 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: protip: thats women in general Sep 11 01:22:31 <Wolvenhaven> lol yea but this is taken to an extreme Sep 11 01:22:38 <Anivrom> that sucks Sep 11 01:22:41 <Wolvenhaven> i'm not talking hit like she lightly slaps me or something Sep 11 01:22:49 <Wolvenhaven> i'm talking hit as in she kicks me in the stomach Sep 11 01:22:53 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:22:54 <Anivrom> My wife is the jealous type so I gotta be very careful what I say do/ make jokes about Sep 11 01:23:05 <Anivrom> But thats ok I love her enough to be respecful of her sensitive spots Sep 11 01:23:09 <Wolvenhaven> hehe Sep 11 01:23:11 <Anivrom> wow Sep 11 01:23:16 <Anivrom> Kicks you in the stomach? Sep 11 01:23:24 <Wolvenhaven> the longest relationship i've ever had was with a girl i wasn't even technically dating :P Sep 11 01:23:28 <Anivrom> She should join ufc and make some mohneh's Sep 11 01:23:28 <Wolvenhaven> yea, like i said, violent Sep 11 01:23:46 <Wolvenhaven> it's funny though Sep 11 01:23:53 <Anivrom> although no one can take GSP Sep 11 01:24:00 <Anivrom> He's indestructable Sep 11 01:24:18 <Wolvenhaven> i've got one girl who i'd sell my soul to sleep with Sep 11 01:24:22 <Wolvenhaven> but she's so dumb sometimes Sep 11 01:24:28 <Anivrom> lol Sep 11 01:24:36 <Wolvenhaven> but really really gorgeous and sweet Sep 11 01:24:43 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: once you orgasm, you'll wish you never sold your soul Sep 11 01:24:44 <dennyferra> i dont like hot dumb girls Sep 11 01:24:54 <dennyferra> at least for relationships Sep 11 01:25:10 <Wolvenhaven> well i'll die an hour or so later anyway Anivrom Sep 11 01:25:16 <Wolvenhaven> she's my friend's cousin Sep 11 01:25:17 <Anivrom> LOL Sep 11 01:25:22 <Wolvenhaven> he'd kill me Sep 11 01:25:27 <Anivrom> meh Sep 11 01:25:30 <Anivrom> kill him first Sep 11 01:25:31 <Anivrom> LOL Sep 11 01:25:33 <Anivrom> jk Sep 11 01:25:42 <dennyferra> he doesnt need to know Sep 11 01:25:43 <Wolvenhaven> it's almost worth it though Sep 11 01:25:48 <Wolvenhaven> it would be an awesome way to die Sep 11 01:25:59 <Anivrom> and then you'd end up on 1000 ways to die Sep 11 01:26:22 <Wolvenhaven> yea, and i could walk through the pearly gates with an "oh yea, i tapped that" smile on my face Sep 11 01:26:25 <Anivrom> Sleep with his cousin and then get impaled by a masssive sharktooth from megladon. Sep 11 01:26:33 <Wolvenhaven> no, he'd shoot me Sep 11 01:26:36 <Wolvenhaven> he's my shooting budd Sep 11 01:26:39 <Wolvenhaven> buddy* Sep 11 01:26:49 <Anivrom> I dont think you'd be going through the pearly gates if you commited adultery :P Sep 11 01:26:56 <Anivrom> You're into guns? Sep 11 01:27:00 <Wolvenhaven> yea Sep 11 01:27:03 <Anivrom> me too Sep 11 01:27:22 <Wolvenhaven> i turn 21 in november and i'm getting my CCW and an h&k p30 in .40 Sep 11 01:27:28 <Anivrom> haha Sep 11 01:27:30 <Anivrom> nice Sep 11 01:27:38 <Wolvenhaven> and i'm going to start the paperwork on my class 3 licence Sep 11 01:27:54 <Anivrom> My grandfather has a ww2 lee-enfield rifle that he needs a clip for. I think its 303 Sep 11 01:28:07 <Wolvenhaven> yep, .303 brit Sep 11 01:28:25 <Wolvenhaven> i love old guns Sep 11 01:28:28 <Wolvenhaven> the history is so cool Sep 11 01:28:47 <Anivrom> I was flipping through a book in the library called *encyclopedia of guns" Sep 11 01:29:01 <Anivrom> was awesome. Some of those things are so discrete, real james bond stuff Sep 11 01:29:11 <Anivrom> saw a pen gun. only .22 but still Sep 11 01:29:21 <Wolvenhaven> yea, a friend of mine collects hidden guns Sep 11 01:29:29 <Wolvenhaven> he's got all kinds of cool stuff Sep 11 01:29:56 <Wolvenhaven> lighters, belt buckles, deck of cards, radio, cellphone, pens, canes, knives, and some other stuff Sep 11 01:30:01 <Wolvenhaven> and all of them have built in guns :P Sep 11 01:31:06 <Wolvenhaven> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs030.snc1/2476_1091806650265_1079472750_30302457_768_n.jpg Sep 11 01:31:13 <Wolvenhaven> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2476/195/13/1079472750/n1079472750_30302458_1251.jpg Sep 11 01:31:23 <Wolvenhaven> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs030.snc1/2476_1091806770268_1079472750_30302460_3063_n.jpg Sep 11 01:31:28 <Wolvenhaven> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs030.snc1/2476_1092005415234_1079472750_30303303_549_n.jpg Sep 11 01:31:30 <Wolvenhaven> :P Sep 11 01:32:23 <Wolvenhaven> aww Sep 11 01:32:29 <Anivrom> stupid wireless Sep 11 01:32:34 <Anivrom> I wanted to get my license and get a $2000 sniper rifle, but as of yet that never happened Sep 11 01:32:43 <Anivrom> I also like pellet guns Sep 11 01:32:45 <Wolvenhaven> licence for what? Sep 11 01:32:51 <Anivrom> There's a little more skill involved Sep 11 01:33:00 <Anivrom> License for a rifle in canada Sep 11 01:33:05 <Wolvenhaven> oh haha Sep 11 01:33:07 <Wolvenhaven> ouch Sep 11 01:33:37 <Wolvenhaven> i turned 18 and could walk into a store and buy anything i wanted cept handguns, fully-automatic, supressed, or explosive Sep 11 01:33:44 <Wolvenhaven> and when i turn 21 i can get all of those Sep 11 01:33:44 <Anivrom> with a pellet gun because the projectile loses speed so fast the variables come into play alot more Sep 11 01:34:13 <Wolvenhaven> it takes a lot of skill to shoot 800m+ Sep 11 01:34:15 <Anivrom> in canada I think there is only 2 types, unrestricted(rifles) and restricted(handguns) Sep 11 01:34:18 <Wolvenhaven> it's not easy Sep 11 01:34:35 <Wolvenhaven> i love those pictures i linked Sep 11 01:34:44 <Wolvenhaven> that mp5 is probably my favorite gun ever Sep 11 01:34:47 <Bmyers> who's the canuck? Sep 11 01:34:57 <Anivrom> I know you can just up the distance on real guns and make it more difficult, but with a pellet gun you can do under 10 metres and neeed more skill than a real rifle under 500 feet Sep 11 01:35:15 <Anivrom> Bmyers: I am the canuck :D Sep 11 01:35:26 <Wolvenhaven> i do a lot of tactical shooting Sep 11 01:35:32 <Wolvenhaven> even point blank that shit is hard Sep 11 01:35:36 <Bmyers> where at Anivrom ? Sep 11 01:35:44 <Anivrom> Southern ontario: you? Sep 11 01:35:54 <Bmyers> nova scotia sometimes Sep 11 01:35:54 <Anivrom> vancounter right? Sep 11 01:35:56 <Anivrom> bah Sep 11 01:36:04 <Wolvenhaven> oh shit, Anivrom can i crash on your couch for a few days? Sep 11 01:36:05 <Bmyers> part timer.. Sep 11 01:36:05 <Anivrom> Its either out west or out east Sep 11 01:36:13 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: FOR SURE Sep 11 01:36:18 <Anivrom> I'm in hamilton ontario Sep 11 01:36:23 <Wolvenhaven> the girl i was talking about selling my soul to sleep with lives in ontario Sep 11 01:36:26 <Anivrom> If yo'ure ever in the area let me know Sep 11 01:36:37 <Wolvenhaven> :P Sep 11 01:36:38 <Anivrom> <3 canadians Sep 11 01:36:42 <Anivrom> Seriously Sep 11 01:36:46 <Wolvenhaven> yes Sep 11 01:36:55 <Wolvenhaven> i only see her once a year when she comes and visits Sep 11 01:37:01 <Wolvenhaven> haha Sep 11 01:37:44 <Bmyers> can you send me some ketchup chips Anivrom ? Sep 11 01:37:52 <Bmyers> and some coffee crisp? Sep 11 01:37:54 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:37:59 <Wolvenhaven> why would you ask for that stuff? Sep 11 01:38:01 <Bmyers> they dont import that stuff here.. Sep 11 01:38:04 <Wolvenhaven> canadians have access to cuban cigars Sep 11 01:38:11 <Wolvenhaven> get some of those Sep 11 01:38:13 <Wolvenhaven> make a fortune Sep 11 01:38:16 <Bmyers> ketchup chips are better Sep 11 01:38:20 <Wolvenhaven> idiots buy cubans for $40/ea Sep 11 01:38:25 <Wolvenhaven> and they're not even that good Sep 11 01:39:07 <Bmyers> i'm in the states when not in NS Sep 11 01:39:26 <Wolvenhaven> ns? Sep 11 01:39:33 <Bmyers> nova scotia Sep 11 01:39:36 <Wolvenhaven> oh ok Sep 11 01:40:03 <Bmyers> well i guess he doesnt want to.. Sep 11 01:40:09 <Wolvenhaven> it's his wireless Sep 11 01:40:19 <Bmyers> not anymore it appears Sep 11 01:40:30 <Wolvenhaven> see Sep 11 01:40:31 <Bmyers> shh. he;s back.. Sep 11 01:40:33 <Anivrom> wow idk if it's my wireless or my service provider Sep 11 01:40:45 <Wolvenhaven> maybe technology just hates you? Sep 11 01:40:48 <Anivrom> but I randomly disconnect from the net every so often Sep 11 01:40:52 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: well duh Sep 11 01:40:55 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:40:56 <Anivrom> thats a given Sep 11 01:41:03 <Wolvenhaven> my litte sister can honestly kill a mac by touching it Sep 11 01:41:06 <Bmyers> u near TO? Sep 11 01:41:08 <Anivrom> LOL Sep 11 01:41:15 <Anivrom> Bmyers: 1 hour from TO Sep 11 01:41:20 <Wolvenhaven> we've factory reset her iphone about 5 times Sep 11 01:41:26 <Anivrom> My wife is in T.O right now at her parents Sep 11 01:41:30 <Bmyers> great town. Sep 11 01:41:36 <Anivrom> its alright Sep 11 01:41:37 <Wolvenhaven> we had to reimage a mac-mini because she somehow screwed up the partition tables Sep 11 01:41:38 <Bmyers> batch'n it this weekend eh? Sep 11 01:41:50 <Anivrom> It's better if you visit once a year instead of 100 times a year :P Sep 11 01:41:52 <Anivrom> gets old you know Sep 11 01:42:08 <Anivrom> nah she's back tomorrow morning. I couldnt live without her for a whole weekend Sep 11 01:42:10 <Wolvenhaven> just admit you still feel awkward being around your inlaws Sep 11 01:42:25 <Anivrom> We dated for 5 yea5rs and have been married for 1 year and are still totally in love Sep 11 01:42:50 <Wolvenhaven> well at least you tried it before you bought it Sep 11 01:43:18 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: I do feel a bit awkward around my inlaws. you know why? cause they BARELY speak ENGLISH. my wife is chinese and they have been in canada for 30 years and barely know english Sep 11 01:43:36 <Wolvenhaven> but i bet you can get awesome and cheap electronics Sep 11 01:43:38 <Wolvenhaven> :P Sep 11 01:43:43 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven:you talkin gabout sex before marriage? Sep 11 01:44:18 <Wolvenhaven> and seeing how she cooks/cleans/makes sammiches Sep 11 01:44:23 <Anivrom> :P cause if so I must let you know, we were both virgins up until our wedding night Sep 11 01:44:35 <Anivrom> Not ashamed of it. Gotta save it for the right one you know? :P Sep 11 01:44:43 <Anivrom> well you dont know, but yea you get me Sep 11 01:44:54 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:45:38 <Anivrom> but now its once every 2-3 days its love makin time. See Wolvenhaven you need a wife Sep 11 01:45:40 <Wolvenhaven> i don't like having all my eggs in one basket, i diversify everything Sep 11 01:45:44 <Anivrom> lol Sep 11 01:45:51 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:46:01 <Wolvenhaven> i couldn't do that Sep 11 01:46:10 <Wolvenhaven> last year i was going once a day at least Sep 11 01:46:12 <Anivrom> make love to the same women every 2-3 dyas? Sep 11 01:46:15 <Wolvenhaven> my roommates hated me Sep 11 01:46:19 <Anivrom> LOL Sep 11 01:47:06 <Wolvenhaven> i'm monogomously promiscuous Sep 11 01:47:09 <Wolvenhaven> so it is the same girl Sep 11 01:47:11 <Anivrom> its different when you are with your souldmate. Your best friend. When you actually enjoy being around your wife. then you wouldnt mind the same person being around all the time Sep 11 01:47:31 <Anivrom> She must be rather promiscuous too then Sep 11 01:47:46 <Anivrom> once every day. Sep 11 01:47:50 <Anivrom> thats crzy Sep 11 01:47:52 <Wolvenhaven> i was only her 2nd Sep 11 01:48:03 <Anivrom> once everyday is too much, even for me Sep 11 01:48:10 <Wolvenhaven> yea, nymphs are hard to find but awesome Sep 11 01:48:17 <Anivrom> I'd have "performance" issues Sep 11 01:48:29 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: LOL indeed Sep 11 01:48:37 <Wolvenhaven> she wore me out Sep 11 01:49:13 <Anivrom> B3ll! Sep 11 01:49:29 <Anivrom> b3ll is a fellow canuck. He lives in london Sep 11 01:49:37 <Anivrom> So feel free to crash at his place when you're in the area Sep 11 01:49:39 <Anivrom> :P Sep 11 01:49:57 <Anivrom> london ontario that is Sep 11 01:50:07 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:50:22 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: you gotta stop chitter chattering to me, I'm not getting ANY coding done Sep 11 01:50:30 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:50:38 <Anivrom> then again in my state, I doubt I'd get much of anything done even if I tried Sep 11 01:50:41 <Anivrom> sugardave: <3 Sep 11 01:50:51 <Anivrom> .//random Sep 11 01:50:56 <Wolvenhaven> beer lubricates the coding gears Sep 11 01:51:18 <Anivrom> I noticed that when you posted your homeworkCorrupt code Sep 11 01:51:30 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 01:51:33 <Anivrom> I had some suggestions but I dont remember then atm Sep 11 01:51:40 <Wolvenhaven> i wrote that 2 years ago :P Sep 11 01:51:43 <Anivrom> :P Sep 11 01:51:55 <Wolvenhaven> i get drunk and have awesome ideas Sep 11 01:52:14 <Anivrom> you're 20 so you wrote them when you were 18... you were drinking when you were 18... how underage! Sep 11 01:52:31 <Anivrom> You should be ashamed of yourself Sep 11 01:52:32 <Wolvenhaven> like me and a guy made a gauss rifle out of a disposible camera and some wire once Sep 11 01:52:34 <Wolvenhaven> pfft Sep 11 01:52:41 <Wolvenhaven> my dad is a brit Sep 11 01:52:49 <Wolvenhaven> and my parents supply it to me which makes it completely legal Sep 11 01:53:04 <Anivrom> pfft, brits are one thing for drinking, IRISH are the REAL DEAL for drinking :P Sep 11 01:53:25 <Anivrom> they give their babies milk mixed with alcohol right from the get go Sep 11 01:53:29 <Wolvenhaven> they drink the same amount as the brits Sep 11 01:53:36 <Wolvenhaven> they just have more alcoholism issues Sep 11 01:53:41 <Anivrom> :P; Sep 11 01:53:46 <Anivrom> LOL* Sep 11 01:54:02 <Anivrom> anyhows white throne break then some awesome codings Sep 11 01:54:03 <Wolvenhaven> personally i'd be an alcoholic if i lived in ireland too Sep 11 01:54:10 <Anivrom> yea really Sep 11 01:54:12 <Wolvenhaven> beautiful place, the weather sucks Sep 11 01:54:21 * Anivrom has lays bbq chips Sep 11 01:54:33 <Anivrom> (technically the wifes but meh) Sep 11 01:56:15 <Anivrom> Wolvenhaven: @ gauss rifle statement, I saw on MANSWERS, you can make a taser out of a disposable camera due to its capacitor for the flash Sep 11 01:56:20 <Anivrom> brb Sep 11 01:59:48 <Wolvenhaven> yea Sep 11 01:59:58 <Wolvenhaven> this one, you wrap wire around a thread spool Sep 11 02:00:05 <Wolvenhaven> and hook it up to the flass Sep 11 02:00:07 <Wolvenhaven> flash* Sep 11 02:00:18 <Wolvenhaven> it will shoot needles fast enough to stick into paper but that's it Sep 11 02:00:24 <Wolvenhaven> but for drunk guys it was epic Sep 11 02:00:41 <Anivrom> nice! Sep 11 02:00:47 <Wolvenhaven> including the fact we didn't kill anyone with the soldering iron Sep 11 02:01:05 <Anivrom> yea guess thats a big huzzah point Sep 11 02:01:10 <Wolvenhaven> lol Sep 11 02:03:46 <Wolvenhaven> then we'd do stupid shit like driving ATVs at night on a dirtbike track at my friend's property Sep 11 02:04:21 <Anivrom> I just came back from up north where I went atv'ing Sep 11 02:04:44 <Anivrom> My grandfather has a kawasaki he uses in the summer to haul wood Sep 11 02:04:59 <Anivrom> not exactly exciting but I took it to the sand dunes :P Sep 11 02:05:08 <Wolvenhaven> it's more fun in the woods Sep 11 02:05:12 <Wolvenhaven> anyway off to play vidjagames Sep 11 02:05:28 <Anivrom> he's got 130 acres of bushland. I know about the woods :P Sep 11 02:05:35 <Anivrom> alright cya Sep 11 02:24:22 <Anivrom> question: a var declareed inside a loop becomes local to that loop? Sep 11 02:25:41 <Anivrom> jslint is giving me a 'myVar' used out of scope. I declare it insid teh loop but use it in a conditional after the loops i done Sep 11 02:25:46 <Anivrom> loop is done* Sep 11 02:30:37 <b3ll> LMAO Sep 11 02:30:45 <b3ll> anivrom thanks for just inviting ppl over to my place Sep 11 02:31:00 <Anivrom> M3 Sep 11 02:31:02 <Anivrom> <3 Sep 11 02:31:54 <b3ll> can i be on your team Sep 11 02:31:55 <b3ll> :) Sep 11 02:32:20 <Anivrom> ???????? Sep 11 02:32:22 <Anivrom> I dont get it Sep 11 02:32:43 <Anivrom> but sure Sep 11 02:32:56 <Anivrom> team anivrom is always recruiting Sep 11 02:33:20 <b3ll> lmao Sep 11 02:33:30 <b3ll> I AM THE TEAM Sep 11 02:33:38 <Anivrom> :( Sep 11 02:34:08 <b3ll> :D Sep 11 02:34:26 <Anivrom> :D Sep 11 02:34:42 <b3ll> aww yee Sep 11 02:34:48 <b3ll> spiderman for ipod touch ftw Sep 11 02:35:03 <b3ll> gameloft needs to port it asap Sep 11 02:35:04 <Anivrom> :O Sep 11 02:35:18 <Anivrom> everyone needs to opirt EVERYTHING asap Sep 11 02:35:31 <Anivrom> that was the whole point of the pdk competition Sep 11 02:35:40 <Anivrom> and all we got out of it was angry birds :P Sep 11 02:37:48 <b3ll> so far Sep 11 02:37:48 <b3ll> OMG Sep 11 02:37:59 <b3ll> I LOVE THIS GAME Sep 11 02:38:22 <Anivrom> I got 3 stars on the whole first chapter (poached eggs) Sep 11 02:39:01 <b3ll> woah Sep 11 02:40:02 <b3ll> that's dedication :P Sep 11 02:40:03 <b3ll> i'm doing too much i never finish any mobile game Sep 11 02:41:25 <Anivrom> yea I only play it at night before I sleep and occasionally on the train on my way to / from work Sep 11 02:46:34 <haeffb> Anivrom: function scope Sep 11 02:46:59 <haeffb> but why would you declare a variable IN a loop? Sep 11 02:47:23 <Anivrom> cause the loop is only true once Sep 11 02:47:31 <Anivrom> then it breaks; Sep 11 02:48:00 <Anivrom> I shall post some code Sep 11 02:48:55 <Anivrom> haeffb: have a gander http://pastebin.com/wtMsXqRE Sep 11 02:49:27 <Anivrom> although I forgot hte break; Sep 11 02:49:51 <Anivrom> question: if I Sep 11 02:49:56 <Anivrom> "break; Sep 11 02:50:15 <Anivrom> inside that if statement will it exit the if or the loop Sep 11 02:50:20 <Anivrom> cuase I want it to exit the loop Sep 11 02:50:23 <Anivrom> to save cycles Sep 11 02:52:59 <haeffb> how does collisionFound ever get set to something other than true? Sep 11 02:53:23 <haeffb> I would declare it before the loop Sep 11 02:54:05 <Anivrom> cause by nature if its not declared it will pass the (!collisionFound) condition Sep 11 02:54:06 <sugardave> haha, you guys got me good Sep 11 02:54:24 <Anivrom> idk Sep 11 02:54:26 <Anivrom> lol Sep 11 02:54:26 <haeffb> http://www.w3schools.com/JS/js_break.asp Sep 11 02:54:31 <sugardave> I thought "sure, I'll try the ares debugger" Sep 11 02:54:36 <haeffb> lol Sep 11 02:54:38 <Anivrom> and? Sep 11 02:54:40 <sugardave> but then...no way to set a breakpoint Sep 11 02:54:45 <sugardave> it's like Sep 11 02:54:46 <sugardave> missing Sep 11 02:54:48 <Anivrom> lol? Sep 11 02:54:54 <lemketron> huh? Sep 11 02:54:59 <Anivrom> the standalone debugger? Sep 11 02:55:04 <sugardave> or it's ver unintuitive Sep 11 02:55:12 <haeffb> just tap to the left of the line number Sep 11 02:55:15 <haeffb> doofus Sep 11 02:55:16 <Anivrom> sugardave: to set a breakpoint click beside the line number Sep 11 02:55:18 <Anivrom> LOL Sep 11 02:55:20 <sugardave> I did that Sep 11 02:55:25 <haeffb> do it harder Sep 11 02:55:28 <sugardave> nothing happens except a blue line appears Sep 11 02:55:28 <lemketron> lol Sep 11 02:55:36 <sugardave> I did THAT and it turns into a blue rectangle Sep 11 02:55:37 <lemketron> click with other hand Sep 11 02:55:39 <Anivrom> LMFAO @ try it HARDER Sep 11 02:56:01 <haeffb> lemketron Sep 11 02:56:04 <sugardave> oh there we go Sep 11 02:56:16 <Anivrom> lol. Just the opening line was CLASSIC Sep 11 02:56:17 <haeffb> 's big practical joke got another one! Sep 11 02:56:17 <lemketron> other hand worked? Sep 11 02:56:27 <oil> must be holding it wrong Sep 11 02:56:32 <Anivrom> "sugardave> haha, you guys got me good" Sep 11 02:56:37 <Anivrom> lolol Sep 11 02:56:39 <sugardave> "left" of number works Sep 11 02:56:45 <lemketron> other left? Sep 11 02:56:46 <sugardave> :P Sep 11 02:56:54 <haeffb> <haeffb> just tap to the left of the line number Sep 11 02:57:01 <sugardave> I was trying it to the left of the line Sep 11 02:57:04 <Anivrom> I was born and raised with breakpoint debuggers so I know the drill Sep 11 02:57:04 <sugardave> yes I see :P Sep 11 02:57:31 <Anivrom> sugardave: why are you using the debugger? Sep 11 02:57:42 <haeffb> to...uh...debug ? Sep 11 02:57:47 <Anivrom> -_ Sep 11 02:57:56 <sugardave> because inspector doesn't work and i'm debugging shit I'm getting from ajax Sep 11 02:57:57 <oil> lol Sep 11 02:58:00 <Anivrom> Meaning why would his situation be so desperate as to require the debugger Sep 11 02:58:13 <sugardave> host emu doesn't like ajax Sep 11 02:58:14 <haeffb> he's too manly to ask for help here? Sep 11 02:58:20 <Anivrom> see, there's a valid rsponse. HAEFFB! Sep 11 02:58:22 * oil pretty much just rolls with tail -f /var/log/messages Sep 11 02:58:35 <sugardave> oil: me, too...but I need to DOM Sep 11 02:58:40 <Anivrom> oil: broaden your horizons! Sep 11 02:58:47 <Anivrom> ARES is the FUTURE Sep 11 02:58:54 <Anivrom> when will ppl understand this! Sep 11 02:58:57 <Anivrom> : Sep 11 02:58:58 <Anivrom> P Sep 11 02:59:00 <Anivrom> :P Sep 11 02:59:02 <sugardave> yet I seem to not be able to see the DOM....hmmm more troubleshooting Sep 11 02:59:06 * oil also remembers trying it and not being able to set a breakpoint Sep 11 02:59:14 <haeffb> lol Sep 11 02:59:18 * Anivrom laughs at oil as well Sep 11 02:59:24 <sugardave> oil: pro-tip: click to the left of the line number ;) Sep 11 02:59:32 <haeffb> ok, so it did take me about 5 minutes... :) Sep 11 02:59:43 <lemketron> that "blue line" is called a cursor. Sep 11 02:59:43 * oil does ok with tail :) Sep 11 02:59:47 <Anivrom> lol. yes, sugardave is now the resident expert on breakpoint debuggers Sep 11 02:59:56 <lemketron> (assuming it's blinking) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 11 02:59:57 2010