**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 24 10:52:15 2010 Sep 24 10:57:11 any idea why Mojo.Log.info(Mojo.Controller.StageController.getWindowOrientation() ); creates an error ? Sep 24 10:57:36 error: Uncaught TypeError: Object function anonymous() { { this.initialize.apply(this, arguments);} } has no method 'getWindowOrientation', app/assistants/stage-assistant.js:30 Sep 24 11:04:14 another weird thing is that window.PalmSystem.setWindowOrientation('free'); (found on a forum) works while Mojo.Controller.StageController.setWindowOrientation('free'); (found on the API) triggers the same error Sep 24 11:19:23 got it. The "good" reference guide says Mojo.Controller.StageController.getWindowOrientation(orientation) where it should be Mojo.Controller.stageController.getWindowOrientation(orientation) with a lowercase s for stageController Sep 24 11:19:34 gotta love this "reference" guide Sep 24 11:21:06 hopefully there is #webos logs on the web. Thanks sugardave ;) Sep 24 11:32:12 sugardave is the mann Sep 24 11:38:11 hotdp: do you know if the f6-f9 in the emu triggers orientationChange ? Sep 24 11:38:35 I have used it alot :) Sep 24 11:39:10 I must be doing something wrong then :/ Sep 24 11:39:27 what is the problem? Sep 24 11:39:41 the function handling the event is never called Sep 24 11:39:49 Mojo.Event.listen(document, Mojo.Event.orientationChange, this.handleOrientation.bind(this)); Sep 24 11:40:39 i have to be sure what you mean. Does nothing heppen when you pres f7 ect? or does the event not be triggered? Sep 24 11:41:16 the screen changes when I press f7 tec Sep 24 11:41:56 I'm wondering if the target of the event listener is right Sep 24 11:42:35 what am I supposed to listen to (or how do I target document) ? Sep 24 11:45:58 1 sec Sep 24 11:46:02 i loook in my code Sep 24 11:55:10 it seems to work with Mojo.Event.listen(document, "orientationchange", this.handleOrientation.bind(this)); Sep 24 11:56:40 that gets it working, even though I have no idea why Mojo.Event.orientationChange wouldn't work Sep 24 11:57:04 hotdp: how did you set it up in your code ? Sep 24 11:58:10 sorry Sep 24 11:58:15 where away (job) Sep 24 11:58:21 i look now Sep 24 11:59:34 MainAssistant.prototype.orientationChanged = function(event){ } Sep 24 11:59:59 Thats all Sep 24 12:00:01 I'm more looking for the binding part Sep 24 12:00:16 you dont need more Sep 24 12:00:30 that event will be triggered when you change orientation Sep 24 12:01:32 :) Sep 24 12:01:36 looks like that's yet another special function Sep 24 12:01:40 gotta find a list of those Sep 24 12:01:42 it is Sep 24 12:01:47 thanks Sep 24 12:01:53 no problemo Sep 24 12:01:54 it works without having to bind anything ot it Sep 24 12:02:00 yer Sep 24 12:02:14 where you from? Sep 24 12:02:39 I'm from Paris Sep 24 12:27:39 rehi Sep 24 12:31:05 yo Sep 24 12:31:36 swisstomcat hows going? Sep 24 12:31:47 teemu do the phone work now? Sep 24 12:31:55 pretty good Sep 24 12:32:11 are you phonegap meister?¨ Sep 24 12:32:12 hotdp: seems to. Installed first app :) bWeather hehe :) Sep 24 12:32:26 goodie Sep 24 12:32:31 not yet, but soon i hope :) Sep 24 12:32:42 teemu have you OC'ed yet? Sep 24 12:32:47 hotdp: nope. Sep 24 12:32:52 ;) Sep 24 13:07:56 Good weekend everyone Sep 24 14:23:11 'morning Sep 24 14:32:06 morning Sep 24 14:32:24 $L("Hello") Sep 24 14:35:49 Sep 24 14:35:57 puts 'yo' Sep 24 14:36:17 nerdy enough, yet? Sep 24 14:36:23 hmm.. Sep 24 14:36:34 bad bad engrish Sep 24 14:36:36 I'm still tired Sep 24 14:36:39 nice Sep 24 14:36:45 tired why? Sep 24 14:37:06 I don't know. Sep 24 14:37:27 Got off from work an hour ago. Guess what programmers should do when they get home? Sep 24 14:38:49 morning lonestar Sep 24 14:38:59 allright, phonegap stuff works now on webos Sep 24 14:39:27 morning swisstomcat Sep 24 14:39:40 have u used phonegap yet? Sep 24 14:39:53 teemu: what country u in? Sep 24 14:40:12 lone, finlandeze Sep 24 14:40:13 i'm at a phonegap training session in berlin at the moment Sep 24 14:40:28 And in case you didn't know what programmers should do when they get home: more programming. yes. Sep 24 14:40:50 yea Sep 24 14:41:06 is it cold right in finland? Sep 24 14:41:23 swisstomcat: nice Sep 24 14:42:16 jsconf.eu is tomorrow Sep 24 14:42:21 i meant cold in finland right now? Sep 24 14:42:27 swisstomcat: you attending? Sep 24 14:42:32 yeah Sep 24 14:43:15 swisstomcat: i spent yesterday on phonegap and trying to get the example guide to work Sep 24 14:43:31 if they had better online guides, they wouldnt need a class Sep 24 14:43:39 did you see the tutorial on the palm developer portal? Sep 24 14:43:50 was doing android first Sep 24 14:44:02 then going to port my webos app to it Sep 24 14:44:02 https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2113 Sep 24 14:44:12 then go back to webos/phonegap app Sep 24 14:44:18 got it to work on android too Sep 24 14:44:19 LoneStar99: nope :) Sep 24 14:45:49 basically the guide i was using pointed to a bad version of PG Sep 24 14:45:55 official guide tho Sep 24 14:46:03 from the PG site Sep 24 14:47:28 i am intersted in getting my apps to work on nokia phones Sep 24 14:50:23 OT: anyone know a youtube dl'er that actually works on mac os x? Sep 24 14:58:31 if you have any questions, the phonegap people are right here :) Sep 24 15:49:17 So what do you think my wife told me after I gave her Pre to try it out? (she has Samsung Spica with Android 2.1) Sep 24 15:49:29 The Pre doesn't have HW issues Sep 24 15:49:32 yet Sep 24 15:50:33 my wife hated the pre. didn't like the size and speed Sep 24 15:51:06 :S Sep 24 15:51:26 Perhaps you have more demanding wife as mine told me "why did you buy me a crappy phone?" Sep 24 15:51:32 Or then Spica is crappy Sep 24 15:51:53 "sell mine and get me a Pre too" Sep 24 16:11:43 done with the windowOrientation stuff. I didn't think that would be this long ! Sep 24 16:12:06 next time I'll abuse of position:absolute from the beginning Sep 24 16:13:10 :) Sep 24 16:38:00 hello everyone Sep 24 16:41:10 http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2010/09/23/seabird/ Sep 24 16:41:15 hi Sep 24 16:41:38 saw that Sep 24 16:41:40 neat Sep 24 16:41:55 very :) Sep 24 16:42:08 Where do you need a computer after that.. Sep 24 16:42:15 Or project for that matter Sep 24 16:50:27 screen caps for pdk, a pain Sep 24 16:52:12 Lol Sep 24 16:53:55 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1555&Itemid=45 <<-- am I the only one getting 404 Sep 24 16:54:29 404 here Sep 24 16:54:57 Good :) Sep 24 16:55:34 Lol Sep 24 16:55:47 Hi everybody Sep 24 16:56:03 hi Sep 24 16:56:27 how long does a laptop battery usually last? a year? Sep 24 16:56:59 Longer usually Sep 24 16:57:22 My tp still has something like 80% after a year Sep 24 16:57:54 battery 1.2 years old and getting windows "consider replacing your battery" Sep 24 16:58:57 What laptop model and what's the health of the battery Sep 24 16:59:52 I think it really depends on the battery. My Dell laptop battery needed replacing after about 9 months, but I can still pull 6+ hours on battery time with my year old MBP. Sep 24 17:00:06 halfhalo: how do i check the health of battery? Sep 24 17:00:21 Download everest Sep 24 17:00:26 running windows here Sep 24 17:01:03 yeah, the macbook pro batteries are great Sep 24 17:01:09 yeah, Sep 24 17:01:19 They have to be, you can't replace em :p Sep 24 17:01:29 A year later, I'm at 58% and I still have 2:44 left Sep 24 17:01:32 my macbook pro 13 would run 4hours on the battery Sep 24 17:01:35 you can replace them actually Sep 24 17:01:44 there are screws on the bottom of the laptop Sep 24 17:01:50 And LoneStar99, everest will give you all the info you need. Hopefully. The trial version blanks some fields Sep 24 17:02:05 halfhalo ok thanks Sep 24 17:02:29 Robdor: how long, from your experience, does it take a beta feed to go live? Sep 24 17:03:25 alexfner: When I submitted Plasma Cannon to the beta feeds it took like 2 hours to show up in the feeds, then a couple more hours before it was downloadable. Sep 24 17:03:36 awe shoot! Sep 24 17:03:38 heh Sep 24 17:04:07 Did you submit yours already? Sep 24 17:06:23 hmm. How do I save settings to the device from my app? I seem to fail to find a good exlpanation of this. Sep 24 17:08:09 ahm. Mojo.Service Sep 24 17:09:02 cookies Sep 24 17:09:15 I threw up a beta Sep 24 17:09:26 but I will probably just submit Sep 24 17:09:32 there is a pretty terrible bug somewhere in the game Sep 24 17:09:34 that I cannot find Sep 24 17:09:49 where it just closes Sep 24 17:10:45 haeffb_pre: cookies? Sep 24 17:11:04 alexfner: I hate it when that happens. Especially when it is hard to reproduce in a debugger. Sep 24 17:11:12 Mojo.Model.cookies? Sep 24 17:14:01 halfhalo: under what icon do i view battery info? Sep 24 17:14:18 System iirc Sep 24 17:14:26 It's been a looooong time Sep 24 17:15:25 Haven't used everest since I had my old laptop Sep 24 17:15:26 Which was 3 years ago i think.... Sep 24 17:15:28 halfhalo: is it "wear level" Sep 24 17:15:52 All I know is that Asus makes crap acpi stuff Sep 24 17:15:52 haeffb_pre: thanks! Sep 24 17:15:52 And yes Sep 24 17:16:12 "wear level" 60% Sep 24 17:16:28 so my battey is 40% done? but 60% good right? Sep 24 17:16:39 Nope Sep 24 17:16:46 60% is dead Sep 24 17:16:47 the other way around? Sep 24 17:16:50 lol Sep 24 17:16:52 What model laptop Sep 24 17:17:01 hp G60 Sep 24 17:17:25 Because even my power hungry c90s has a lower wear level that that Sep 24 17:17:32 Ooooooooohhhh Sep 24 17:17:35 G60 Sep 24 17:18:29 so is 60% wear bad? Sep 24 17:18:31 Yeah... Budget laptop batteries suck epicly Sep 24 17:18:33 Yup Sep 24 17:18:50 ok, will find a new battery on ebay Sep 24 17:19:04 yeah, after this laptop, will go back to mac Sep 24 17:19:08 My T400 is at like 10% or so Sep 24 17:19:26 10% wear? Sep 24 17:20:35 wow awesome $30 for a new battery Sep 24 17:20:55 Yeah, 10% wear Sep 24 17:21:01 do they make knock-off HP batteries? Sep 24 17:21:10 http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=290281 Sep 24 17:21:15 Still can manage 7-8 hours if u push it Sep 24 17:21:20 bump that please Sep 24 17:21:23 And yes, they do Sep 24 17:21:24 Robdor: yeah, well xcode would throw bad access over nothing, and when I get it on the device I can't see anything Sep 24 17:22:01 Robdor: would you be interested in trying it? I'd really like to hear your feedback cause plasma cannon is great (bought it) and would like to hear your thoughts Sep 24 17:22:07 halfhalo: ok thanks, need to make sure, i ain't buying some knockoff Sep 24 17:24:47 alexfner: Sure, I would love to try it. Sep 24 17:26:35 I could email you the ipk, or just let you know when the beta feed is up Sep 24 17:26:39 whichever you prefer Sep 24 17:27:44 anyone know where I can find the mobile hotspot for sprint pre? Sep 24 17:27:55 alexfner: You can email it to me. robmerrell[at]trackera.com Sep 24 17:30:23 thegozt, I found it on a torrent site Sep 24 17:30:26 halfhalo: thanks for your help, just bought a new battery Sep 24 17:33:15 deihmost - how do you get ur message to show highlighted and directed to me? Sep 24 17:47:51 how do you direct a message to a certain person in the chat?? Sep 24 17:49:01 thegozt: type their name first Sep 24 17:49:52 gaeffb_pre did this work? Sep 24 17:50:22 do I have to use the colon? Sep 24 17:51:23 you have to spell it right Sep 24 17:51:23 haeffb_pre: maybe Sep 24 17:51:31 that worked Sep 24 17:51:35 hahahaha Sep 24 17:51:36 wow Sep 24 17:51:54 ok...so I DO have to use the colon Sep 24 17:53:01 haeffb .... you write apps for the pre? Sep 24 17:55:15 any developers in the room? Sep 24 18:00:10 thegozt: There are a lot of devs here, just lob a question and maybe someone will be able to answer it. Sep 24 18:01:21 specifically a jquery question. anyone familiar w native apps using jquery?? Sep 24 18:01:32 robdor: thanks Sep 24 18:22:56 lunchtime, brb in 45 minutes Sep 24 18:36:43 i am working with a simple hash object like so - http://pastebin.com/5CYLxNJ6 . Can do simpleHash."name" to get "Alex"? Sep 24 18:37:21 what? Sep 24 18:37:48 simpleHash.name should work just fine Sep 24 18:46:58 halfhalo: ah, works. I was messing up someplace else :) Sep 24 18:47:57 lol Sep 24 18:52:31 oh mebbe this is why my wireless is so slow Sep 24 18:52:35 wait Sep 24 18:53:00 * krushia moves 4 tabs to the left Sep 24 18:55:56 ? Sep 24 19:33:26 yes im back :) Sep 24 19:33:31 anyone use ares on linux? Sep 24 19:33:40 having issues getting emulator running Sep 24 19:33:53 also...firefox 3.6 does not work with ares Sep 24 19:37:40 anyone? Sep 24 19:40:04 anyone want to try out my new game in beta? Sep 24 19:40:08 give me some feedback? Sep 24 19:40:10 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/index.php?packageid=com.alexhaefner.spacedots# Sep 24 19:41:47 alexfner: I think I spotted a crash. When I do a backswipe the game closes. Sep 24 19:43:38 anyone? Sep 24 19:44:05 i installed eclipse, and through it i installed palm webos sdk and i installed virtualbox Sep 24 19:49:42 Robdor: hmm... I guess that's the apparent one Sep 24 19:50:59 I set PDL_GesturesEnable(PDL_FALSE); Sep 24 19:51:03 so I wonder why it's doing that Sep 24 20:08:53 edo Sep 24 20:09:02 hey Sep 24 20:09:21 how can i make a radiobutton shorter vertically Sep 24 20:09:52 A: You can't Sep 24 20:10:18 well shucks Sep 24 20:10:24 alexfner: Maybe you could try leaving it enabled and ignoring gesture events. Sep 24 20:13:56 anyone used Palm Inspector? Sep 24 20:15:47 i just get the "Disconnected..." message when i run it -- is there something I need to do to my app for it to work? Sep 24 20:16:51 palm-install -i maybe? Sep 24 20:18:22 word thanks Sep 24 20:18:28 it's palm-launch -i Sep 24 20:23:05 still not working though Sep 24 20:32:37 Robdor: rob thanks for the feedback, helped me make a lot of small fixes. For example fixed the touch interaction Sep 24 20:32:54 Cool Sep 24 20:49:53 hey does anybody have details on the free device program? Sep 24 20:58:09 <_azdak> hey yall Sep 24 21:14:32 on the road again Sep 24 21:15:28 just can't wait to be on the road again? Sep 24 21:15:47 sort of Sep 24 21:15:59 cant wait to get off the road at this point Sep 24 21:16:11 northern vermont Sep 24 21:16:59 Robdor: how does one get screenshots of a pdk game? Sep 24 21:17:54 alexfner: Through code? Sep 24 21:17:54 use your other cell phone? Sep 24 21:18:17 yeah but soil makes those large textures look crappy on my computer Sep 24 21:18:47 <_azdak> I use MWsnap and the emulator Sep 24 21:19:37 <_azdak> the timings a little tricky, but ends up being less work than ftping into the VM or whathaveyou Sep 24 21:19:39 alexfner: I usually just use screenflick to record a movie of me clicking through Plasma Cannon then pull stills out of the movie in iMovie. Sep 24 21:20:08 I mean, the SOIL texture quality issue would still exist Sep 24 21:20:44 I hear that on the device people put the PDK app in card mode, get their fingers on the orange key and sym key then bring the card back to full screen mode and snap a screenshot before your app logic takes over. Sep 24 21:22:02 <_azdak> Just got my first review! Sep 24 21:22:03 <_azdak> 2 stars :/ Sep 24 21:22:04 yeah that's amazing, I'd need 12 hangs Sep 24 21:22:05 <_azdak> hahaha Sep 24 21:22:09 it happens Sep 24 21:23:08 alexfner: I just got a pretty good shot of Plasma Cannon doing that. It took me a couple of tries though. Sep 24 21:23:23 hmm Sep 24 21:23:24 _azdak: What is your app? Sep 24 21:23:41 alexfner: I had to lay the phone on my desk to do it. Sep 24 21:23:45 <_azdak> college football gameline Sep 24 21:23:58 <_azdak> just got published Sep 24 21:25:10 I would check it out, but I'm not a football fan. :) Sep 24 21:25:23 <_azdak> haha yeah Sep 24 21:25:36 <_azdak> it was more something I personally wanted Sep 24 21:25:42 <_azdak> so I'm not real bothered Sep 24 21:25:52 <_azdak> if people like it, great. If not, meh Sep 24 21:26:40 thats how its done Sep 24 21:26:55 * oilsworkn mostly only writes code for things he wants to use Sep 24 21:27:13 * halfhalo is being spammed by something that should have just died.... Sep 24 21:27:40 * dohtem is playing with new twitter Sep 24 21:36:50 so it's not possible to change the height of radio buttons? Sep 24 21:40:36 why would you want to? Sep 24 21:42:05 because i need a bit more room Sep 24 21:42:27 * oilsworkn has never used radiobutton :/ Sep 24 21:44:35 they are ok Sep 24 21:44:51 just crowding up my UI on the pixi Sep 24 21:45:03 and nobody likes a crowded UI Sep 24 21:45:15 screenie? Sep 24 21:45:38 Howdy dawm Sep 24 21:46:24 nothing worth looking at, just jamming a bunch of stuff in there and moving it around placeholder style Sep 24 21:46:43 * haeffb needs to need something that millions of other people also need. Sep 24 21:47:05 codeslaw: have you looked at the CSS Sep 24 21:47:17 building this color picker, i'd like to have a secondary screen for HSL, but don't have a good way to paginate between them Sep 24 21:47:30 haeffb: can't get palm inspector to work, so no Sep 24 21:47:40 no, the stylesheets in SKD Sep 24 21:47:42 SDK Sep 24 21:48:03 oh no, i haven't Sep 24 21:48:15 sounds like a logical next step Sep 24 21:49:16 they're in global.css Sep 24 21:49:26 not global-buttons.css as one would expect Sep 24 21:49:33 word Sep 24 21:50:06 height: 50px; Sep 24 21:50:41 what's the class name? Sep 24 21:51:05 palm-radiobutton & etc Sep 24 21:51:19 in eclipse, I use outline & filter by "radio" Sep 24 21:51:38 wor Sep 24 21:51:39 d Sep 24 21:51:47 like 9 differnt classes Sep 24 21:52:51 * haeffb trying to decide whether to release an app update now, or wait until PDK contest is over Sep 24 21:52:58 wait Sep 24 21:53:04 yeah. Sep 24 21:53:04 its a real battlefield right now Sep 24 21:53:07 5 days left Sep 24 21:53:21 prepare it over the weekend, and submit on the 30th... Sep 24 21:53:38 anyone have a Tivo? my cable DVR BLOWS CHUNKS.. and i pay $12.99/m for it.. Thru netflix i get a deal where Tivo is only $19.99/m and i get the box free (w/ 2 year commitment) or $99 (w/ 1yr commitment) hella better than the $299 price of the box Sep 24 21:53:54 where can I get the list of command menu icons? Sep 24 21:54:45 hi all Sep 24 21:55:31 man the flick gesture is really improved Sep 24 21:55:38 since today, my clock is out of sync all the time, is that a known issue ? Sep 24 21:55:42 seriously thanks for all the help robdor Sep 24 21:55:48 nah the radio buttons use images for backgrounds Sep 24 21:55:50 gonna submit it even though there is a small bug somewhere Sep 24 21:55:59 alexfner: No problem Sep 24 21:57:36 alexfner: Is it going to be a paid app? Sep 24 21:58:00 free Sep 24 21:58:04 gonna push it for free Sep 24 21:58:57 it's the base for a different app, a winter themed snowman app, much of the base code can be saved and used, but the gameplay and art will be different Sep 24 21:59:11 so I am targeting that app for mid october, but we'll see Sep 24 21:59:53 alexfner: cool Sep 24 22:00:07 man I enabled PDL_Gestuers Sep 24 22:00:11 what the hell man, i was planning a winter themed snowman app Sep 24 22:00:12 no fix... Sep 24 22:00:13 hmm Sep 24 22:00:27 codeslaw: mine will truly dominate yours! Sep 24 22:00:29 muhahaha Sep 24 22:00:31 muahaha Sep 24 22:00:33 muhaha Sep 24 22:00:45 i'll swap the art out Sep 24 22:00:58 and make it a michillen man app Sep 24 22:01:31 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/us-busts-google-apple-intel-over-secret-employee-poaching-pact.ars Sep 24 22:01:37 this is crazy Sep 24 22:01:39 no one here has tivo? Sep 24 22:02:19 no tivo for me Sep 24 22:02:45 oh well, will have to find someone later.. watching the last episode of lost.. cannot be interupted :P Sep 24 22:03:17 boss left the office, so im bailing too Sep 24 22:03:18 later Sep 24 22:05:56 how does one listen for pdl_events? Sep 24 22:08:22 nevermind... ! Found it Sep 24 22:28:29 omgomgomgomgomg it works Sep 24 22:29:11 nodejs-log: hello Sep 24 22:29:11 Hello! Sep 24 22:29:18 * halfhalo does a dance Sep 24 22:31:39 what is it? Sep 24 22:32:18 Node IRC bot with plugin support.... Sep 24 22:32:30 The Hello World plugin was the first I wrote, and its now working Sep 24 22:33:09 nodejs-log: eval(while(1)) Sep 24 22:33:23 lol Sep 24 22:33:39 did I break it? :D Sep 24 22:33:42 nope Sep 24 22:34:00 it doesn't try to run any code Sep 24 22:35:54 damn Sep 24 22:36:45 nodejs-log: hello eval(while(1)) Sep 24 22:36:52 I will try! Sep 24 22:36:55 all night if necessary Sep 24 22:37:16 it uses regex to parse incoming messages and is pretty damn strict about it Sep 24 22:37:42 nodejs-log: //quithello Sep 24 22:37:49 nodejs-log: hello Sep 24 22:37:49 Hello! Sep 24 22:37:52 nodejs-log: hello/* Sep 24 22:37:57 nodejs-log: hellO Sep 24 22:38:07 nodejs-log: hello hey Sep 24 22:38:11 nope Sep 24 22:38:12 this bot sucks Sep 24 22:38:15 he can't do anything :D Sep 24 22:38:34 the only rule I made was hello Sep 24 22:38:40 but am about to launch another rule Sep 24 22:38:41 :p Sep 24 22:39:12 A TWO RULE bot???!?! Crazy Sep 24 22:40:22 heh, I just made the plugin support today Sep 24 22:40:26 but heres the new rule: Sep 24 22:40:29 !modules Sep 24 22:40:29 Loaded Modules: Sep 24 22:40:29 auth from (core) Sep 24 22:40:29 db from (core) Sep 24 22:40:29 helper from (core) Sep 24 22:40:29 messageParser from (core) Sep 24 22:40:29 modules from (core) Sep 24 22:40:30 hello-world from (vendor) Sep 24 22:40:30 palm-feed from (vendor) Sep 24 22:42:23 lol Sep 24 22:42:43 most are empty and don't even receive messages Sep 24 22:43:58 ANYWAYS... bots being shutdown since Its on my work comp and I don't want it being abused while I'm gone... :p Sep 24 22:44:32 hah Sep 24 22:44:45 Robdor: any way to debug on the device that you're aware of? Sep 24 22:45:00 alexfner: You can use gdb on the device Sep 24 22:45:11 gdb eh? Sep 24 22:46:06 unwiredben posted some debugging tips here: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2010/08/debugging-pdk-applications/ Sep 24 22:48:26 that dude is great, he must work for palm or something Sep 24 22:49:27 He does Sep 24 22:50:43 :D i know :D Sep 24 22:53:36 Sarcasm doesn't transfer over IRC very well. :) Sep 24 22:57:18 Well, it's time to go home. Bye everybody. Sep 24 23:39:58 nodejs-log: hello Sep 24 23:39:58 Hello halfhalo! Sep 24 23:55:04 [URGENT HELP PLZ] Hi I just tried to update my app and the website froze so I refreshed and now it says my entire app is pending rejection. I'm on the PalmHotApp page and need help to fix this. Sep 24 23:55:23 and I can't update anymore Sep 24 23:55:27 or reupload Sep 24 23:55:34 want to cry.... Sep 24 23:56:36 Is there anyone there to help me, or a support phone # I can call? Sep 24 23:57:53