**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 25 02:59:57 2010 Sep 25 03:31:15 hello :) Sep 25 03:31:25 still need the same help Sep 25 03:31:42 can not get emulator working Sep 25 03:33:10 help :) Sep 25 03:33:20 i want to learn how to make apps Sep 25 03:34:18 88 people in the room and no help :( Sep 25 03:39:30 anyone? Sep 25 03:39:33 sigh Sep 25 03:41:12 badonk Sep 25 03:41:17 hey so Sep 25 03:41:27 I'm trying to get background updating going in Spaz Sep 25 03:41:34 and the stuff all works awesomely Sep 25 03:42:10 except, it looks like you have this 5-second limit to run when you wake from an alarm Sep 25 03:42:15 is there *any* way around this? Sep 25 03:42:37 launch dashboard scene Sep 25 03:42:49 help me out… Sep 25 03:43:01 never used one before Sep 25 03:43:13 I see, so you'd open a dashboard scene? Sep 25 03:43:19 like, right away? Sep 25 03:43:19 yup Sep 25 03:43:26 yup Sep 25 03:43:30 right now it only opens it if there's new stuff to see Sep 25 03:44:02 I suppose I can close it if there's nothing there… Sep 25 03:44:11 bingo Sep 25 03:44:47 BOOM Sep 25 03:44:55 you get a gold star Sep 25 03:45:16 yay! another one! Sep 25 04:19:01 good evening everyone Sep 25 04:20:50 good evening...or is it morning or afternoon for you Sep 25 04:21:16 anyone got a suggestin on getting my mac to find my palm pre Sep 25 04:21:26 my poc finds it...but the mac doesn't Sep 25 04:22:22 did you install the drivers? Sep 25 04:22:27 no Sep 25 04:22:44 didn't know the mac needn't that Sep 25 04:22:48 What drivers? It's a USB mass storage device Sep 25 04:23:01 evening here Sep 25 04:23:32 do i need drivers? Sep 25 04:25:03 let me change the question.... Sep 25 04:25:20 whats the best way to run metadoctor on a PC Sep 25 04:26:36 well it might be necessary to install the novacom drivers if you're trying to use webOS quick install on the mac. http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/228310-webos-quick-install-v3-14-a.html Sep 25 04:27:35 my god its taking a long time to run through this xml... Sep 25 04:28:03 thanks Sep 25 04:28:28 gonna try that now but i thought i did that installign metadoctor Sep 25 04:29:07 hmm. heard of metadoctor, have yet to use it Sep 25 04:29:47 antillian: I don't believe that's actually drivers though, just the novacom program Sep 25 04:30:06 I know there are actual drivers involved on Windows but I think they just talk USB on OS X Sep 25 04:30:17 Probably using libusb Sep 25 04:30:57 anyone know about hte free palm pre program? Sep 25 04:31:05 maybe i can just get one of those... Sep 25 04:32:16 Amaranth, I believe you're correct, but I have had issues in the past connecting with quick install that was fixed by reinstalling it. Haven't really had any issues with OS X failing to mount my phone though *shrug* Sep 25 04:32:28 Free Palm Pre program? I think that's "Go to a Developer Days event and get lucky" Sep 25 04:32:48 nope...was in the last email Sep 25 04:33:04 qualifying developers Sep 25 04:33:09 Oh, I need to read that Sep 25 04:33:20 I thought it was just about 2.0 so I archived it without reading Sep 25 04:33:26 its stil going.......... Sep 25 04:34:04 I wonder what the qualifiers are Sep 25 04:34:13 Free Pre Plus to Qualified Developers, through October 31, contact us now at pdc@palm.com. Sep 25 04:34:19 Probably "have an app in the catalog" at least Sep 25 04:34:22 Yeah, curious. That's all the email says Sep 25 04:34:25 i hope its not to get apple developers Sep 25 04:34:26 Yeah, probably Sep 25 04:34:34 Sure does seem like they're dumping inventory :P Sep 25 04:34:44 Email them and inquire about it Sep 25 04:35:06 already did Sep 25 04:39:29 same here Sep 25 04:39:32 emailed Sep 25 04:39:57 sure wish i could get a tablet for free Sep 25 04:40:02 read the entire email, but overlooked the "Free as in Beer" Palm Pre Sep 25 04:40:13 yeah Sep 25 04:40:19 not used to free stuff Sep 25 04:40:19 really looking forward to a webOS tablet Sep 25 04:40:46 looking forward, for both new mobiles and tablets Sep 25 04:41:16 do they charge for developer day? Sep 25 04:41:24 i think $25 Sep 25 04:41:39 will bust my ass to go to NYC in Nov Sep 25 04:41:41 thats not a typo right? $25.00 Sep 25 04:41:53 neah Sep 25 04:43:35 what state r u at lonestar Sep 25 04:44:53 texas now cali in 1 week Sep 25 04:44:57 me i just hop on the train and im there Sep 25 04:45:05 in 2 hours Sep 25 04:45:19 man...i wish i was in cali right now Sep 25 04:45:25 techcrunch hack tomorrow Sep 25 04:45:36 did the new york one a few months back....AWESOME!!!! Sep 25 04:45:43 If I wasn't going to be spending a week in Denver next week I could probably afford to go to NYC but alas Sep 25 04:45:46 whoolio: nice, will have to hop on an plane from SAN or LAX Sep 25 04:46:21 if u go to the techcrunch hack they give you free tickets to the 3 days conference...$3000 Sep 25 04:46:37 awesome Sep 25 04:46:40 wow Sep 25 04:46:42 nice Sep 25 04:46:56 i met some seriously connectged people there...the former owner of linkshae...sold it for like 500 million... Sep 25 04:47:00 he loved my hack Sep 25 04:47:55 yahoos hack days are awesome too Sep 25 04:48:27 wow awesome, have only been to Bar Camps in LA and San Diego Sep 25 04:49:02 bar camps? Sep 25 04:49:44 http://www.barcampsd.org/ Sep 25 04:50:33 i just heard about them actually...now that i see it...that google enginer who was accessing data Sep 25 04:50:49 he went to those things ... Sep 25 04:51:19 excludinhg that guy....those things sound great Sep 25 04:51:20 yeah pretty cool Sep 25 04:51:49 the dude was a douche? Sep 25 04:54:37 Eh, the street view cars were storing data they pulled out of the air while mapping wifi routers Sep 25 04:55:06 They have to download some data to find the network name and get an idea of the location but they weren't deleting it afterward Sep 25 04:56:53 oh ok Sep 25 04:57:13 not that douche...the other couche... Sep 25 04:57:17 douche Sep 25 04:57:30 the guy who just got canned cause he was stalking kids Sep 25 04:57:37 that he met at the bar camps Sep 25 04:57:53 he was reading their ims and emails Sep 25 05:00:52 damn creep Sep 25 05:00:53 sorry...wrong group...not bar camps Sep 25 05:01:48 whoolio: where did you read about the stalking google engineer? Sep 25 05:02:17 just google "google engineer fired" it was everywhere a week or so ago Sep 25 05:05:41 im installing ubuntu on a usb drive...to be able to run linux to metadoctor my palm Sep 25 05:05:49 think it will work? Sep 25 05:06:08 the dude looks like a total creep, would not trust that dude with a turd Sep 25 05:06:17 or do i need full blown ubuntu install in virtual box on my pc Sep 25 05:07:21 whoolio: i installed ubuntu on a VM, Sep 25 05:07:47 i did the metadoctor thing like in Dec 2009 Sep 25 05:12:34 i hope this usb thing works Sep 25 05:15:34 it should work Sep 25 05:15:42 linux is linux Sep 25 05:16:07 regardless if on a mobile, toaster, or mainframe Sep 25 05:19:02 true Sep 25 05:21:12 y pc is starting to feel liek a toaster Sep 25 05:21:17 my pc is.. Sep 25 05:24:54 mine, the battery is screwed Sep 25 05:24:59 had to order a new one Sep 25 05:25:01 today Sep 25 05:28:50 lonestar: your pc battery died? or pre? Sep 25 05:29:27 laptop Sep 25 05:29:50 40% left in cells, so pretty much dead Sep 25 08:17:51 morning all Sep 25 09:05:05 Morning Sep 25 11:47:58 hey everybody Sep 25 11:48:22 am i right here to post a webos mojo question? Sep 25 11:50:10 so, i just post my question, maybe somebody can anser me to it Sep 25 11:51:48 i want to establish a typ-connection to a microcontoller-webserver on port 50290 in my local network. is this possible on the pre with mojo? i allready got it detour over a php-script - but i want to do it directly... thanks Sep 25 11:53:15 anybody? Sep 25 12:03:49 anyway - thanks Sep 25 12:27:47 Hello, #webos Sep 25 13:03:47 hi Sep 25 13:27:33 hello Sep 25 13:29:48 does anyone know where to get instructions on how to install webOS 2.0Beta on a pre? Sep 25 13:58:26 hi Sep 25 13:59:58 KaptainKrispy: webOS 2.0 beta is covered by NDA - discussion is not allowed here. Sep 25 14:00:07 rboatright: what is up? Sep 25 14:01:21 not much sitting at software business partner's listening to pharmacists complain about change Sep 25 14:01:59 what's changing? Sep 25 14:02:30 is that even possible at this point Sep 25 14:02:47 morning all Sep 25 14:02:53 nothing is possible Sep 25 14:03:17 insurance, drugs, invemtory mngmnt tools, communication etc. most people think chang is evil Sep 25 14:03:54 everythng is evil Sep 25 14:05:02 bad morning? Sep 25 14:05:37 have no idea, what the current conversation is, just writing nonsense Sep 25 14:05:58 ahhh... Sep 25 14:06:14 rboatright: you still into webOS? Sep 25 14:07:11 this is 3251 style software. text mode ui... numbered menu. wow back tot the 80s. Sep 25 14:07:57 haeffb yes, but real life has intervened last several monthe Sep 25 14:08:26 it happens Sep 25 14:08:35 morning haeffb Sep 25 14:08:41 hey LoneStar99 Sep 25 14:08:54 yo Sep 25 14:09:10 haeffb gonna PM you right quick Sep 25 14:12:50 joing to update reversi to hybrid. next project. Sep 25 14:21:49 mornin Sep 25 14:23:00 dawm|laptop: morn Sep 25 14:23:02 ing Sep 25 15:03:47 time 2 go paint be back later Sep 25 15:46:50 If I use hide() on an Element, is there a property I can get to verify if the Element is hidden or not? Sep 25 15:58:35 visible() perhaps? Sep 25 15:59:26 That's in Prototype but not sure how that works out Sep 25 16:04:48 Spanska, check the opacity before you hide(), then check it after. if it changed to 0 that would be a good way to check Sep 25 16:05:04 im not 100% sure how hide() and show() works, but i think its opacity, or display:none Sep 25 16:05:17 actually i think its display:none Sep 25 16:05:40 it is display: none, but how can I get that property? Sep 25 16:06:00 element.style.display Sep 25 16:06:10 yeah i just checked its display:none Sep 25 16:06:44 if (element.style.display == "none") { /* its hidden */ } Sep 25 16:11:05 thanks dawm Sep 25 16:19:04 wtf? Facebook app uses x-mojo-element = "PagedList" Sep 25 16:22:09 custom widget Sep 25 16:28:33 how did you see that? Palm Inspector? Sep 25 16:37:22 looked at source Sep 25 16:43:31 anyone use ares? :) Sep 25 16:43:54 firefox does not work. chrome works but cant upload images.. Sep 25 16:49:08 morning all Sep 25 16:50:12 morning Sep 25 16:51:50 anyone do any wood working? im building a work bench for the garage and i have a quick question Sep 25 16:56:43 hey JenP! Sep 25 16:56:49 dawm: not really Sep 25 16:56:57 actionfigure: not really Sep 25 16:57:03 haeffb!!! Sep 25 16:57:07 how are you? Sep 25 16:57:08 although firefox did work when I tried it. Sep 25 16:57:14 great! you? Sep 25 16:57:18 !palm add http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/palm-web/Packages Sep 25 16:57:18 Adding Packages... Sep 25 16:57:18 i just need to know if i need pressure treated if its gonna be in the garage.. i need like 16 2x4s so the difference is $47 vs $38 Sep 25 16:57:19 372 packages found Sep 25 16:57:25 sweet jesus its alive.... Sep 25 16:57:33 very good...only have 2 more boxes and I'm all unpacked Sep 25 16:57:35 rboatright was in here earlier this am Sep 25 16:57:42 oh really? Sep 25 16:57:49 damn i'm sorry i missed him Sep 25 16:57:54 stick those in a closet somewhere and leave them for a couple of years Sep 25 16:58:06 lol Sep 25 16:58:21 dawm: no, you shouldn't need treated lumber if not exposed to elements Sep 25 16:58:47 it will be exposed to oil, water, coolant, gas ..etc tho Sep 25 16:58:53 haeffb, im still having issues with webos :( Sep 25 16:58:59 like you're going to pour gas on it? Sep 25 16:59:07 like ill be working on car stuff on it Sep 25 16:59:12 haeffb, finally got the emulator up and running but firefox and chrome both have issues on linux Sep 25 16:59:15 and storing stuff on the lower shelf Sep 25 16:59:43 what the frak.. does lowes.com work for anyone else? Sep 25 16:59:47 there are linux users around, but I'm not one of 'em Sep 25 16:59:55 http://www.lowes.com Sep 25 17:00:01 yup Sep 25 17:00:29 if you give me a cc #, I'll order whatever you need. Sep 25 17:00:35 lol Sep 25 17:00:44 i just get a blue page with a white strip at the top Sep 25 17:00:45 * haeffb needs a new patio door.. :) Sep 25 17:00:49 both in FF and chrome Sep 25 17:01:13 Thank you for visiting Lowes.com. Our site is currently down for maintenance but will return soon. Sep 25 17:01:14 Thank you for visiting Lowes.com. Our site is currently down for maintenance but will return soon. Sep 25 17:01:26 yeah i got that after i typed in http://www.lowes.com/workdamnyou Sep 25 17:01:29 yeah, the main page worked, but when I clicked on anything... Sep 25 17:01:51 hrm Sep 25 17:01:55 i got in now Sep 25 17:02:08 went to lowes.com/help and it was a 404 but the other links all worked Sep 25 17:02:20 i just dont understand why im having so much issues..i thinking of giving up already... Sep 25 17:02:28 heh nope/.. i was wrong Sep 25 17:02:29 "We are having a problem with our Application." Sep 25 17:02:51 actionfigure: what troubles are you having? Sep 25 17:02:57 browser issues Sep 25 17:03:13 dawm: home depot sabotage..... Sep 25 17:03:37 http://www.homedepot.com Sep 25 17:03:52 firefox doesnt produce all folders when making an app so i cant go back and continue....chrome wont let me upload images....go figure Sep 25 17:04:51 which door should I buy? http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Navigation?storeId=10051&categoryID=502511&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&navFlow=3&searchRedirect=patio%20door&cm_sp=searchredirect-_-patio_doors_flcat-_-x-_-x&locStoreNum=8984&marketID=129 Sep 25 17:05:43 i like the french doors Sep 25 17:28:18 hey haeffb lowes has 10% off patio doors, but their site still isnt working, its like 1% working ;p Sep 25 17:29:32 ok...how do i get eclipse to look like webos? Sep 25 17:29:58 ? actionfigure have you tried komodo? Sep 25 17:30:05 no Sep 25 17:30:13 didnt see that in the webos site Sep 25 17:30:37 it's an add on that's pretty cool. one sec i'll send you the links Sep 25 17:31:17 thanks Sep 25 17:31:20 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Editors Sep 25 17:31:26 for comparison ... Sep 25 17:31:46 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Komodo Sep 25 17:32:07 will how you how to install etc... Sep 25 17:32:18 thanks Sep 25 17:32:39 but i still dont understand why webos is so hard Sep 25 17:33:19 which part is hard? set up? Sep 25 17:33:24 setup Sep 25 17:33:30 im on linux Sep 25 17:33:33 sdk installed Sep 25 17:33:40 eclispse installed Sep 25 17:33:45 virtualbox Sep 25 17:33:59 emulator works but its slowwwwwwwww Sep 25 17:34:20 ares wont work on firefox or chrome Sep 25 17:34:28 ah...i'm not a linux user but it may be worth going to #webos-internals those guys may be able to answer you questions Sep 25 17:34:34 and eclipse doent look like ares at all Sep 25 17:34:40 I am wondering if someone can tell me how to push a scene from a button (using Ares)? Sep 25 17:34:42 oh ok Sep 25 17:35:41 JenP, thanks Sep 25 17:36:37 KaptainKrispy: you have to have a listener for the button tap event Sep 25 17:36:51 actionfigure: eclipse is not supposed to look like Ares at all Sep 25 17:37:00 sorry actionfigure. look for these users "oil" "rwhitby" they're great Sep 25 17:37:19 I have that already - but when I try to push the scene - nothing happens (i get an error in the console telling me that pushScene is not known to the object this.controller Sep 25 17:37:39 did you .bind(this) for your tap handler? Sep 25 17:37:47 oh, wait Sep 25 17:38:00 this.controller.stageController.pushScene('myscene'); Sep 25 17:38:22 haeffb: I'm unsure Sep 25 17:38:26 pushScene is a method of stageController, not sceneController Sep 25 17:38:28 ah Sep 25 17:38:33 I see what you mean Sep 25 17:38:39 gonna try it Sep 25 17:38:58 no help there Sep 25 17:39:03 :( Sep 25 17:39:13 bah! i should go write iphone apps ;) Sep 25 17:39:37 haeffb: thank you very much Sep 25 17:39:48 lol actionfigure: try later in the day...rwhitbys in Austrailia Sep 25 17:40:05 ok thanks Sep 25 17:40:08 seriously.. how can lowes be down this long.. this is stupid Sep 25 17:40:28 its been a week and im still not able to make any apps :( Sep 25 17:40:48 thats why i wonder if i shoiuld even invest time on something that doesnt really work Sep 25 17:41:04 iPhone apps are easier? Sep 25 17:41:20 it works Sep 25 17:41:31 on linux? Sep 25 17:41:42 iphone apps you dont need to install several programs Sep 25 17:41:47 haeffb, no..on mac Sep 25 17:41:49 actionfigure: well all i can say is it's worth it. Palms great and the community has always been helpful Sep 25 17:42:06 JenP, i agree..its great but the develpment part to me sucks.. Sep 25 17:42:11 think about it Sep 25 17:42:18 1 week!!!! Sep 25 17:42:27 and im following all the directions Sep 25 17:42:47 and still nothinig :( Sep 25 17:43:10 many others have been able to get it working Sep 25 17:43:23 not my luck i guess Sep 25 17:44:31 JenP, but thanks for your help Sep 25 17:44:37 haeffb, and thanks for your help :) Sep 25 17:44:52 well im off. Sep 25 17:45:00 byes Sep 25 17:50:21 * haeffb headed out. laters Sep 25 18:09:59 If I want to 'post' xml data to a web service using AjaxRequest - do I just send it via the data attribute or body attribute? Sep 25 18:27:56 back from painting Sep 25 18:28:17 little room is now red Sep 25 18:40:35 hmm, anyone here got mojo messenger? Sep 25 18:45:35 nvm Sep 25 18:57:08 is there a Base64 encoder method or object in webOS? Sep 25 18:57:37 don't think so. You can include your own tho Sep 25 18:57:43 you need to include your own base64 library Sep 25 18:57:44 yes Sep 25 18:57:51 MetaView: oh? Sep 25 18:57:55 KaptainKrispy: YEAH U need 2 add yourown Sep 25 18:57:59 new UberCalendar patch Sep 25 18:58:15 sugardave: yes, you have to create your own Sep 25 18:58:31 is anyone just loading one from the net? Sep 25 18:58:45 this is a good one http://www.webtoolkit.info/javascript-base64.html Sep 25 18:58:46 I guess Sep 25 18:58:51 thanks Sep 25 18:58:53 MetaView: ah, I see what you mean now :D Sep 25 18:59:01 :) was a bit misleading Sep 25 18:59:10 own Sep 25 18:59:22 KaptainKrispy: just use your own Sep 25 18:59:40 ok Sep 25 19:00:47 I'm supposed to go to the jsconf.eu party tonight, but my wife didn't show up yet and I have to guard the sleep of the kids Sep 25 19:03:51 oh, I have to go Sep 25 19:04:29 MetaView: lots of people at jsconf.eu? Sep 25 19:50:11 hello webOS Sep 25 19:50:18 who's actually here right now? Sep 25 19:51:04 me sorta Sep 25 19:56:10 * halfhalo is waching boondocks Sep 25 19:56:48 the boondocks? Sep 25 19:56:55 yup Sep 25 19:57:00 season one Sep 25 20:08:06 BOONDOCKS saints? Sep 25 20:10:48 nope Sep 25 20:11:12 want to watch "all saints day" Sep 25 20:11:22 that was a good movie Sep 25 20:11:37 yeah really liked the first one, Sep 25 20:12:16 saw it at the midnigt release Sep 25 20:13:02 halfhalo: awesome Sep 25 20:13:04 in LA? Sep 25 20:13:14 yeah Sep 25 20:16:17 killer Sep 25 20:31:17 back! Sep 25 20:39:00 so I realized that I posted a pdk app with a few pretty glaring bugs Sep 25 20:39:09 I didn't catch them, guess I was riding the tired train Sep 25 20:42:55 pdk hot app still going on? Sep 25 20:44:34 hi all Sep 25 20:52:31 just finishing up Sep 25 22:17:14 hi Sep 25 22:18:06 i can not make checkbox and text vertically align in a raw in a list Sep 25 22:18:12 is there any hints? Sep 25 22:30:00 that homebrew bug @ app catalog drives me crazy Sep 25 22:35:08 benluo: have had this problems with an IntegerPicker Sep 25 22:35:28 benluo: mom i will search how i solved it Sep 25 22:38:48 benluo: you have a msg, Sep 25 22:40:53 else: http://imgur.com/jacoj ;) Sep 25 22:51:44 leiru: i don't catch you Sep 26 00:33:19 * KGF2009 arrives. Sep 26 00:38:57 yay! KGF2009 is here! Sep 26 00:39:05 \o/ Sep 26 00:40:17 * haeffb_ simmering a pot of chili and drinking Sam Adam's Octoberfest Sep 26 00:53:03 haeffb: sounds awesome Sep 26 00:53:17 drinking an O'douls here Sep 26 00:54:15 * haeffb assumes all longhorn fans are in mourning this evening. Sep 26 00:54:45 what was the final score? Sep 26 00:55:06 when i was in college in austin, UT got beat by UCLA 50+ to 0 Sep 26 00:55:26 so i assume it history replaying itself Sep 26 00:55:39 it wasn't that bad. I don't know the final, though Sep 26 00:59:25 touchdown Cincinnati Sep 26 01:19:37 i made more beer today :) Sep 26 01:19:59 bottled a cream stout and brewed a pumpkin ale Sep 26 01:22:39 but none of it is done yet, yes? Sep 26 01:26:12 Back in 1997, the Bruins crushed Texas 66-3 Sep 26 01:26:32 Wolvenhaven: aweome, when is the beer ready? Sep 26 01:26:52 6-8 weeks after production Sep 26 01:27:02 awesome Sep 26 01:27:11 i've almost drank all of my first batch Sep 26 01:27:31 so i'm having to ramp up production cause it's not lasting as long as i thought Sep 26 01:27:31 * haeffb will take the cream stout Sep 26 01:27:34 even more aesome Sep 26 01:27:56 not a fan of the pumpkin, though Sep 26 01:28:04 the wort tasted good Sep 26 01:28:11 it's for halloween Sep 26 01:28:25 then the christmas ale is a spiced ale with nutmeg cinimon and stuff Sep 26 01:28:55 that sounds good Sep 26 01:29:02 * haeffb loves Sam's winter lager Sep 26 01:29:24 i want to get around to an IPA at some point Sep 26 01:29:40 but i haven't found a kit which sounds good, and you have to make it really well or it tastes nasty Sep 26 01:38:53 1997: UCLA 66 TX 3, today: UCLA 34 TX 12...horrible Sep 26 01:39:23 lol Sep 26 01:39:32 bama SUCKED today Sep 26 01:39:34 sugardave: yeah watched some of the game Sep 26 01:39:35 i'm so happy Sep 26 01:39:50 no bueno Sep 26 01:40:08 war eagle :P Sep 26 01:57:47 sugardave: OU almost lost to Cincinnati. KSU almost lost to UCF Sep 26 01:58:16 MU almost lost to SDSU last week Sep 26 01:58:21 damn Sep 26 01:58:33 damn Sep 26 01:58:37 woo hoo SDSU! Sep 26 01:58:47 lol JenP Sep 26 01:58:55 "almost" Sep 26 01:59:05 they give tickets away to go watch SDSU Sep 26 01:59:06 it's california...almost means a win Sep 26 01:59:26 just showing up rather than going to the beach means a win? Sep 26 01:59:46 exactly... Sep 26 02:00:17 did the irish win? they were losing last i saw Sep 26 02:01:07 hello everyone Sep 26 02:01:17 hi CTLAdvance Sep 26 02:01:25 Hello JenP Sep 26 02:01:29 Stanford beats Notre Dame 37-14 Sep 26 02:01:57 almost identical to UT Sep 26 02:02:00 anyone know if we have a pinch in and out event to listen for? Sep 26 02:02:37 When you guys are packaging your PDK apps, do you have your data files organized into individual folders, or just toss them all into one folder Sep 26 02:07:48 * haeffb perusing http://www.ted.com Sep 26 02:08:41 anyone use gesturestart? Sep 26 02:08:57 * JenP wondering if she has room for this http://www.uncommongoods.com/item/item.jsp?source=family&itemId=14811 Sep 26 02:33:46 Is it possible to dynamically create widgets? For example, can I create a drawer without putting it in the html file and then add other elements to it? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 26 02:59:57 2010