**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 26 02:59:57 2010 Sep 26 03:06:10 finally got my pre working again Sep 26 03:06:48 used meta doctor to reinstall and set it to bypass activiation and palm profile creation Sep 26 03:07:04 cool Sep 26 03:07:05 is there anyway to create a profile without having sprint service? Sep 26 03:07:18 cause now i can't see the app catalog at all Sep 26 03:07:22 if your on wifi you should just be able to run first use Sep 26 03:07:44 ow do u run first use? Sep 26 03:07:56 do i need to run meta doctor again and not by pass that? Sep 26 03:07:58 it should be an app on the phone Sep 26 03:08:24 I think it defaults to the first card as well Sep 26 03:08:25 i see it Sep 26 03:08:32 yeah, just run that Sep 26 03:08:52 and if it breaks blame oil Sep 26 03:09:11 should i use my real name when creating a profile? Sep 26 03:09:17 I did Sep 26 03:13:04 this is great Sep 26 03:13:15 3 days later and i can use the phone a gain Sep 26 03:13:18 but now its with my profile Sep 26 03:18:15 confused Sep 26 03:20:11 ? Sep 26 03:21:22 lonestar99 and halfhalo: thanks for your help the last few days Sep 26 03:25:50 whoolio: awesome Sep 26 03:25:57 u can access the app catalog? Sep 26 03:26:27 yep...and i can buy apps now...couldn't before because it was still set up with the oold owners profile Sep 26 03:26:52 i coudl get free ones before Sep 26 03:27:00 JenP: how could you NOT have that? Sep 26 03:30:45 haeffb: I know huh! Sep 26 03:31:00 did you see the oolon noodle bowls? Sep 26 03:31:04 so cool Sep 26 03:44:34 ... I just somehow managed to break my regex... Sep 26 03:46:54 what's your regex? Sep 26 04:06:39 * halfhalo totally forgoto to substr his regex Sep 26 04:07:35 * halfhalo has it working now though! Sep 26 04:07:39 see! Sep 26 04:07:41 !hello Sep 26 04:07:42 hello! Sep 26 04:17:05 whew.. i just played a ton of Angry Birds Sep 26 04:19:45 !hello Sep 26 04:19:45 hello! Sep 26 04:19:55 !test Sep 26 04:19:58 nope Sep 26 04:20:02 :) Sep 26 04:20:30 I rewrote the plugin model to be more efficient so now only hello works Sep 26 04:22:22 I'm rewriting the authorization plugin right now along with the db plugin Sep 26 04:23:55 you hosting it locally? Sep 26 04:24:04 right now, yes Sep 26 04:24:33 since i'm still testing it. but it is running though znc as well Sep 26 04:27:10 but plugin support is reallly easy to use since the way I set it up was that you made a route in the form of "hello :name", and when regex matched that it would pass the value of :name to a callback function Sep 26 04:27:55 heres what i mean with the helloworld plugin: http://github.com/halfhalo/Node.js-IRC/blob/master/plugins/vendor/hello.js Sep 26 04:50:28 ooh. there's a new sexy, usable(looking) twitter app. http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/260948-tweetjar-another-twitter-client-under-development.html Sep 26 04:51:00 and with that, I bid goodnight. Sep 26 05:07:27 speaking of that does twee2 scroll slow for anyone else Sep 26 05:26:55 halfhalo: do you work with sqlite? Sep 26 05:27:15 not really Sep 26 05:27:22 i was wondering if the data doesn't get erased when the app updtes Sep 26 05:27:27 updates Sep 26 05:27:36 it doesn't Sep 26 05:28:01 ph thats awesome...unless the update is a restructure of the database Sep 26 05:28:20 i guess u have to design an import into the new database then Sep 26 05:32:05 is there an area on the palm to view the sqlite databases that are on it Sep 26 05:32:09 the iphone has this Sep 26 06:49:45 can someone confirm that the x windows packages work in 1.4.5? Sep 26 08:08:51 someone with the power should do something about zz_SophieB Sep 26 10:26:20 was Sep 26 10:26:55 Hi ho Sep 26 13:40:57 Free Device Program? Sep 26 13:43:43 Goodies for free Sep 26 13:44:06 Or not.. Sep 26 13:44:09 Hi, btw Sep 26 13:44:09 But, where,what when? Sep 26 13:44:16 Soon Sep 26 13:44:44 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvd3kaupZ60 <<-- Spaceballs-When Will Then be Now? Sep 26 13:45:11 hi Sep 26 13:45:15 happy with your pre? Sep 26 13:45:38 Very Sep 26 13:46:16 Good Sep 26 13:46:22 What endeed the total price to be? Sep 26 13:46:38 Now I'd want to find a project that I could work with. Sure I'm doing my own things but something with someone else :) Sep 26 13:46:48 uh, about 180e I think Sep 26 13:47:42 new or ? Sep 26 13:48:09 Used but I couldn't tell it's used. No wear marks at all. Sep 26 13:48:30 Thats a good deal Sep 26 13:48:32 was it german? Sep 26 13:48:35 Yes. Sep 26 13:48:49 I think it was a pretty good deal. Now my wife wants one too. Sep 26 13:49:58 :) Sep 26 13:51:12 Sees " a keeper" :P Sep 26 13:52:03 How do I access Lists items? Sep 26 13:52:48 I'm trying this.controller.get("list").items but that doesn't work.. Sep 26 13:54:04 are you using webos101.com? Sep 26 13:54:39 But that returns the div.. Sep 26 13:54:57 nop Sep 26 13:56:07 Use it :D Sep 26 13:56:23 First time you use list copepaste the code from webos101 Sep 26 13:56:39 that will give you a good understanding of what is needed and what it does Sep 26 13:57:02 I can use it, but I'd like to loop trough the items on the list Sep 26 13:59:31 btw, has anyone seen Resident Evil: Afterlife? Sep 26 14:00:17 Why would you "loop" thru the items? Sep 26 14:00:21 ok, got it. Sep 26 14:00:33 Because the thing you might be asking for is "formatters" ? Sep 26 14:08:46 hotdp: that's only for formatting data, right? I would need to access item from the list to update one value. Sep 26 14:09:13 I understand, yes that is correct Sep 26 14:09:31 So you just dont wonna alter the list item and bind it again? Sep 26 14:09:55 hmm what? :) Sep 26 14:10:20 I need to update a value in one of the items. I came up with a solution, but I'm not sure if it's the correct way. Sep 26 14:10:50 Tell me the "scenarie" ? Sep 26 14:11:45 First node = getNodeByIndex(index) and then item = getItemByNode(node) and then item.someValue = 'test' Sep 26 14:12:58 But can you tell what the program shall do? Sep 26 14:13:36 The whole program or just the list? Sep 26 14:14:14 the list part if :) Sep 26 14:14:54 It's a dynamic list with a #{-name} and #{-countofsomething} ;) I need to update that last one somehow Sep 26 14:16:08 So you do "something" on the program Sep 26 14:16:20 And then the last item in the list will be updated? Sep 26 14:16:56 Might be last, first or some in the middle. Sep 26 14:18:11 But what content are you binding? Sep 26 14:18:14 database? Sep 26 14:18:16 json? Sep 26 14:18:18 rss? Sep 26 14:19:08 json Sep 26 14:20:58 and is the content altered on sorurce or onkle program? Sep 26 14:22:02 Maybe you should tell me what exact you want :D Sep 26 14:23:55 yo LoneStar99 Sep 26 14:31:59 teemu: your list has a model Sep 26 14:32:06 the model has an items property Sep 26 14:32:24 morning hotdp Sep 26 14:32:33 morning haeffb Sep 26 14:32:47 when you set up the list widget, save the model as something like this.myListModel = ... Sep 26 14:32:52 hi LoneStar99 Sep 26 14:33:46 although, if you're doing this in something like a listTap event, you can access event.item directly Sep 26 14:35:45 haeffb: the model is dynamic so I have no idea what the data is when the widget is setup. So when I need to update some parts of the list, how would I do that other than calling noticeUpdatedItems which resets the whole list? Sep 26 14:36:04 Or is that the only way? I'm trying to find a way to update contents of one item.. Sep 26 14:36:18 noticeUpdatedItems(index, 1); Sep 26 14:36:32 yer Sep 26 14:36:44 no, that's not it Sep 26 14:36:46 can't you save the index on the item you update Sep 26 14:36:49 haeffb: 1 in that would be the item? Sep 26 14:36:51 hotdp: sure Sep 26 14:37:02 invalidateItems(index, 1) Sep 26 14:37:34 how are you determining which item is updated? Sep 26 14:38:19 haeffb that was what i wanted him to tell :D by telling what the app was :) Sep 26 14:38:24 if you just change this.mylistModel.items[index].whatProperty, then call modelChanged(this.myListModel); Sep 26 14:38:41 I loop trough the list items (to find the correct one) Sep 26 14:39:02 are u doing it based on a listTap event? or in response to what? Sep 26 14:39:47 haeffb: it's not an event. Ajax.onsuccess points to a function that updates the list item Sep 26 14:40:00 So I don't have the correct item via event Sep 26 14:40:38 ah. I would go the route of modifying the this.myListModel.items and then this.controller.modelChanged(this.myListModel); Sep 26 14:40:55 yer Sep 26 14:45:51 Is there a way to get the currentl model from the List? Sep 26 14:48:13 this.myListModel.items ? Sep 26 14:48:17 or what you mean? Sep 26 14:50:58 Well when the list is dynamic there's no such thing Sep 26 15:01:54 i don't think i understand you? Sep 26 15:02:12 :) Sep 26 15:02:14 The list contains items Sep 26 15:02:16 Nevermind, I got it. Sep 26 15:02:19 good :P Sep 26 15:02:21 Got it to work Sep 26 15:02:40 If you wonna share code or anything just let us know Sep 26 15:03:24 Ok Sep 26 15:55:46 Some stability issues with sophies connection.. Sep 26 15:57:02 it seems Sep 26 15:58:27 endeeed Sep 26 16:03:14 hi Sep 26 16:05:58 hi MetaView Sep 26 16:06:30 hi Sep 26 16:06:53 Somehow I killed my USB ports/novacom install Sep 26 16:07:08 :S Sep 26 16:07:15 the Pre doesn't ask for USB mode anymore Sep 26 16:07:25 bummer Sep 26 16:07:27 and I get no dev access to them Sep 26 16:07:29 HAve you tryed to "force" it? Sep 26 16:08:32 no, I rather concerned about the dev connection from PC to Pre Sep 26 16:56:00 ? Sep 26 17:06:47 I'd guess sophie has reconnet & rejoin while someone nice enough floods in query Sep 26 17:07:05 lol Sep 26 18:03:26 Is it normal for the gesture area to flash while the phone is booting up? I just took it off the charger from last night, and when I took it off the gesture area was flashing but the screen wouldn't turn on; so I pulled the battery and rebooted it. Sep 26 18:20:58 anyone tried this? http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/263881-emulator-supports-gesture-area-indeed.html Sep 26 18:37:32 Tibfib: hmm... I'll give it a shot Sep 26 18:37:57 let me know how it goes Sep 26 18:52:56 not sure exactly what to edit. theres multiple entries and none clearly marked as height. Sep 26 18:53:10 first try crapped out. let me try something else Sep 26 18:55:48 Tibfib: meh, I'm not having any luck Sep 26 18:56:09 hmmm Sep 26 18:56:27 I changed LastGuestSizeHint to 500. the emulator launches ok but I dont see any extra space Sep 26 18:56:47 I don't think that's it Sep 26 18:57:05 yeah, let me try the other values Sep 26 18:57:36 palm.emulator.image.screen ? Sep 26 18:58:19 someone ban zz_SophieB Sep 26 18:59:20 * KGF2009 pokes rwhitby. Sep 26 19:07:31 * sugardave explores the awesome Mojo.Format.formatDate function. Sep 26 19:08:27 * halfhalo has pretzels Sep 26 19:09:34 dohtem: can't remember. Sep 26 19:09:40 * Tibfib is hungry Sep 26 19:09:53 lol... adding routes to irc bot Sep 26 19:10:02 * Tibfib makes sandwich Sep 26 19:10:11 halfhalo: oh, how do you make it so my @ is tibfib.com? Sep 26 19:10:16 how do I* Sep 26 19:11:00 i'm doing the auth system and my functions for giving users admin/etc are listen, obey, and grovel and to remove permissions the function is rebel Sep 26 19:11:09 Tibfib: set up google apps Sep 26 19:11:10 is there a bot? I'd scroll the log, but apparently SophieBB has made that impractical Sep 26 19:11:22 There is a node.js bot I'm working on Sep 26 19:11:28 it knows one command Sep 26 19:11:30 neato Sep 26 19:11:30 !hello Sep 26 19:11:31 hello! Sep 26 19:11:36 heh Sep 26 19:11:51 but the way I made it makes it easy to add a new plugin Sep 26 19:12:36 since you just tell the plugin system to watch for a message in this format: "hello :name", and it provides a callback with the value of name or whatever variables you stuck in the route Sep 26 19:13:07 how is jsconf.eu? Sep 26 19:13:09 who is there? Sep 26 19:13:11 anyone here? Sep 26 19:13:24 speaking of which, I have to add the allowed level permissions for routes Sep 26 19:13:38 does the #android chanel work? Sep 26 19:14:05 halfhalo: how is that speaking of which? Sep 26 19:14:17 D0li0: couldn't say? Sep 26 19:14:27 it was related to something from before you joined Sep 26 19:14:50 halfhalo: that sounds awesome, but I'm in no condition to comprehened it atm Sep 26 19:15:08 well this is a pretty happening channel.... Sep 26 19:15:19 it's gotten quiet lately Sep 26 19:15:25 sugardave: this will clear it up http://github.com/halfhalo/Node.js-IRC/blob/master/plugins/vendor/hello.js Sep 26 19:15:48 !hello:bob Sep 26 19:15:49 D0li0: only on sundays, cause we're all getting together for the weekly sunday night discussion on party games, where we attempt to invent new part games and make crude puns Sep 26 19:16:07 !hello :bob Sep 26 19:16:08 hello :bob! Sep 26 19:16:13 heh Sep 26 19:16:14 I have an interesting read for any american, perhaps for others Sep 26 19:16:16 http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iR0WI9SemySgmX7kHis5MLf5zwEg Sep 26 19:16:38 * halfhalo really should get the ignore system in place... Sep 26 19:16:43 * halfhalo thinks its going to be needed Sep 26 19:16:52 * Tibfib bets he'll get ignored :) Sep 26 19:19:16 gees did I ask bout android in the webos channel? blushes. Sep 26 19:20:43 halfhalo: what is .in()? Sep 26 19:20:53 so U of M is moving to google or microsoft services Sep 26 19:21:04 and they're leaving it to the students to vote and decide Sep 26 19:21:12 what do you think the students are going to choose ? :D Sep 26 19:22:22 its a function that takes the route you pass in (Either a single string or an array), converts it to regex and gets the keys (for "hello :name :channel" the keys would be name and channel), and takes in a callback. Sep 26 19:23:01 !hello bob Sep 26 19:23:01 hello bob! Sep 26 19:23:08 okay, I get it now Sep 26 19:23:25 I see....so route is what you are calling the arg syntax? Sep 26 19:23:34 on every message it compares its list of routes and if it match's calls the callback with the keys object (with the values passed in), the original message object, and a say command which is just a wrapper function to respond Sep 26 19:24:06 if by arg syntax you mean the "hello :blah" stuff, yet Sep 26 19:24:08 yes* Sep 26 19:24:15 yes, that's what I mean, cool Sep 26 19:25:31 I'm still adding more stuff to the route parser. in the github version :blah only matches a single word, while my local copy has ":blah" which matches everything inside of the quotes including spaces Sep 26 19:26:17 I think, but I'm not sure, that any regex passed in via a route also gets excecuted as well Sep 26 19:27:46 I'm working on a db plugin that provides each plugin their own key store alongside mongodb if they need it. Sep 26 19:34:36 Tibfib: meh, i didnt make any progress. I've given up Sep 26 19:34:51 hrm. I wonder if it works. Sep 26 19:34:53 i think that guy is messing with us. He only has one post too Sep 26 19:35:51 or I could've been doing something wrong :) Sep 26 19:36:06 heh, not sure Sep 26 19:49:04 any novel ideas on what to do with a retired Pre? Sep 26 19:49:51 hm, you could use it as a remote sensor package Sep 26 19:50:09 I use my old Nokia N95 as a SIP client, it's -really- good for that Sep 26 19:52:05 humm what sip/voip apps can the Pre run though? Sep 26 19:52:32 D0li0: I know of someone making a SIP client app Sep 26 19:54:14 awesome can't wait. do we need to wait on wrbos2 and it's audio/camera hooks? Sep 26 19:54:35 no clue... haven't seen him in a while :) Sep 26 19:55:22 humm. need to come up with something crazy to do with it.. first retired phone with wifi. so... Sep 26 19:55:50 wifi and unix, that last bit helps a lot with crazy ideas :) Sep 26 19:56:11 lol absolutely... Sep 26 19:56:30 maybe a mini X display!? Sep 26 19:57:06 home automation remote? idk... Sep 26 19:58:43 heh Sep 26 19:58:48 I like the idea of a remote control of some sort Sep 26 19:59:04 hm, I wonder if you could charge all the Pres in a room with a big induction coil around the ceiling Sep 26 20:00:29 lol. I doubt it induction doesn't work like that. Sep 26 20:01:50 gotta try out that new stand alone gps app. that would be useful. the pre gps is pretty good imho. Sep 26 20:02:42 D0li0: you don't think so? :) Sep 26 20:03:15 first wireless phone in the world was at seattle worlds fair in 1962, they powered it by induction from a wire coil buried in the ceiling Sep 26 20:03:42 was an orange desk phone, I actually volunteer at telephone museum where it lives Sep 26 20:05:21 there's a new stand alone gps app? Sep 26 20:05:50 humm. alright. I'm still not sure. all the working induction I've seen requires the primary and secondary coils to be in close proximity. Sep 26 20:06:06 for efficient operation, yes Sep 26 20:06:20 they have to be close relative to their diameter Sep 26 20:06:32 ya. 'navit' in Preware. Sep 26 20:06:33 and diameter mismatch causes more leaking Sep 26 20:07:50 well I'm no expert. and there are other wireless power methods... anyway... Sep 26 20:08:18 D0li0: hmmm, I suppose Sep 26 20:11:22 does anyone here use android also? I have an Epic and it's been a nightmare to gain root and I still don't have a decent shell on it. makes webos seem even better now.. Sep 26 20:11:41 I used a G1 for a while recently ... Sep 26 20:13:19 ya. had the epic for a month and still prefer my Pre minus for nearly all tasks.. Sep 26 20:15:59 sprint disabled the composite video out of the headphone jack. those jerks. anyway. webos still rules. can't wait for new hardware. Sep 26 20:19:02 composite video out... on the headphone jack? Sep 26 20:19:11 for which device? Sep 26 20:19:50 the galexyS. Epic. Sep 26 20:20:02 oh Sep 26 20:20:14 i got the epic and did root yesterday Sep 26 20:20:20 it was simple Sep 26 20:20:34 like the old video ipods. Sep 26 20:20:51 ya. do you have a shell? Sep 26 20:20:55 bash? Sep 26 20:21:17 ? Sep 26 20:22:14 I got root also. but the underlying OS is not very GNU... Sep 26 20:22:24 it was a one click root Sep 26 20:22:46 i like webos but it really lacks in applications Sep 26 20:23:03 lots of things webos does better Sep 26 20:23:25 but it is so far behind in the apps departmnt Sep 26 20:23:47 ya. we need audio video access. then we will see more of the apps we lack. Sep 26 20:24:41 I was just really really dissapointed with the android linux core... Sep 26 20:25:22 I want my sshd and bash and other linux apps under the hood. :( Sep 26 20:26:48 hi Sep 26 20:28:41 hello Sep 26 20:29:10 I need more touchstones! :( Sep 26 21:48:57 lmao - http://twitpic.com/2p0n7v Sep 26 21:53:34 gooodnesssssssss sophieB Sep 26 21:58:59 lol Sep 26 21:59:55 needs more flooding Sep 26 22:00:17 MOAR! Sep 26 22:06:49 * KGF2009 wonders what the hell SophieB is up to. Sep 26 22:43:01 lame, swipe-to-delete buttons don't get styled properly when in a list presented in a custom dialog....they look like ugly regular buttons Sep 26 22:53:27 KGF2009: hi Sep 26 22:53:44 hi all! Sep 26 22:53:49 hola Sep 26 23:24:53 rwhitby, we were pondering a nice ban for SophieB because something appears to be up with her connection. Sep 26 23:28:31 KGF2009: I have no authority in this channel Sep 26 23:28:56 ChanServ begs to differ. Sep 26 23:29:20 According to the access list, you've been an op in here for over a year. Sep 26 23:29:56 orly? Sep 26 23:30:01 lol Sep 26 23:30:02 -ChanServ- 5 rwhitby +otr [modified 1 year, 8 weeks, 5 days, 16:43:25 ago] Sep 26 23:30:28 BTW, what I do is just turn off notifications of people joining and leaving. makes for much nicer IRC experience Sep 26 23:30:42 Eh, for some. Sep 26 23:30:49 but I want to know who is joining/leaving... Sep 26 23:30:55 Same. Sep 26 23:31:25 But zz_SophieB apparently joins every so often and instantly disconnects for 'Excess Flood'. Sep 26 23:31:36 KGF2009: how's your timezone app coming? Sep 26 23:31:54 Speak of the devil. Sep 26 23:31:55 rwhitby, get the banhammer out! Sep 26 23:32:10 well isn't it obvious? Sep 26 23:32:15 it's raining too much for her to use IRC Sep 26 23:32:21 lol Sep 26 23:32:25 Tibfib, not bad; but slow. Sep 26 23:32:27 lol Sep 26 23:32:35 she wants to come in for a chat about the rain but there's just too much water to stay connected Sep 26 23:34:23 but she's sleeping? Sep 26 23:35:42 possibly! Sep 26 23:37:01 She's sleep-chatting! Sep 26 23:42:42 why? why would palm styles not get added properly to swipe-to-delete items in a custom dialog? Sep 26 23:42:48 it's maddening Sep 26 23:43:42 hmm, got a special version? Sep 26 23:43:45 sugardave: they are tricky. It's hard to figure out which will take and which wont Sep 26 23:43:50 Tibfib: nope Sep 26 23:43:58 1.4.5 347 Sep 26 23:43:59 sugardave: that's annoying Sep 26 23:44:02 yeah it is Sep 26 23:44:20 those buttons are fugly Sep 26 23:44:26 lol Sep 26 23:44:43 and they don't match what's in the underlying scene's swipe-to-delete items Sep 26 23:44:53 so now I have to see if I can force it somehow Sep 26 23:45:02 every 30 seconds. Sep 26 23:45:06 hah! Sep 26 23:45:11 jk, counting is hard Sep 26 23:45:37 I guess there isn't a real pattern. Sep 26 23:46:06 wootwoot Sep 26 23:46:10 got listen working Sep 26 23:46:25 sorta Sep 26 23:46:37 sugardave: when we decided to override the buttons we ended up having to override almost every palm style Sep 26 23:46:54 ooh. mIRC can ignore people! Sep 26 23:47:09 Tibfib: try icechat Sep 26 23:47:29 * Tibfib googles Sep 26 23:48:30 are these screenshots current? http://www.icechat.net/site/screenshots-history/screenshots-icechat-7/ Sep 26 23:48:46 JenP: the issue I have is that I'm not even doing anything to override the damn buttons :D Sep 26 23:48:49 yes Sep 26 23:49:01 lol ooohhhhh Sep 26 23:49:23 if you have swipe-to-delete in a list in a regular scene, you get the nice delete/undo buttons Sep 26 23:49:36 but, if you do that same list in a dialog from the scene, you get the fugly ones Sep 26 23:49:36 right Sep 26 23:49:48 retarded Sep 26 23:50:04 hmm... Sep 26 23:50:14 has there been a join attempt since my "can ignore people" post? Sep 26 23:50:35 um...idk Sep 26 23:50:54 Tibfib: no, there has been an exit Sep 26 23:51:17 it's because she knows I ignored her. >.< Sep 26 23:51:27 lol Sep 26 23:55:12 Tibfib, thank you for the ignoring suggestion. XD Sep 26 23:56:38 hah, no problem Sep 26 23:56:50 ... Sep 26 23:56:53 It didn't work. Sep 26 23:56:56 * KGF2009 kicks xChat. Sep 26 23:56:56 ! dangit Sep 27 00:10:48 whois zz_SophieB ? Is it a real person? Sep 27 00:24:34 sweeet.... I got auth to sorta work Sep 27 00:24:54 !hello Sep 27 00:25:00 yup, works Sep 27 00:28:24 !hello Sep 27 00:28:30 Aw. Sep 27 00:28:56 !admin listen to KGF2009 Sep 27 00:29:01 !admin listen to halfhalo Sep 27 00:29:03 !hello Sep 27 00:29:03 hello! Sep 27 00:29:25 !hello Sep 27 00:29:26 hello! Sep 27 00:29:27 \o/ Sep 27 00:29:40 !dosomething Sep 27 00:29:46 !say X Sep 27 00:30:01 * halfhalo kills the bot before people think to try !admin listen to on themselves Sep 27 00:30:17 What's ZNC? :o Sep 27 00:30:28 its a bouncer Sep 27 00:33:52 Ah. That would explain the lack of quit message. Sep 27 00:34:00 yup Sep 27 00:36:55 !hello Sep 27 00:36:55 hello! Sep 27 00:37:05 sugardave: the delete cancel buttons are in an html file in templates dir in SDK Sep 27 00:37:18 you can look there to see what styles are applied Sep 27 00:37:26 (unfortnately, you can't change them) Sep 27 00:37:46 but you could probably write dialog. versions Sep 27 00:41:54 $L("Buenos Noches") Sep 27 00:42:01 BMyers Sep 27 00:42:27 !hello BMyers Sep 27 00:42:27 hello BMyers! Sep 27 00:42:31 :p Sep 27 00:42:44 * halfhalo is still amazed it works Sep 27 00:44:11 hows it going tonight? Sep 27 00:45:11 haeffb have u seen sales fall off a bit lately? Sep 27 01:01:48 yes, a little less each month Sep 27 01:07:58 theoretical question: would it be better to hold a list of online users in memory or on disk... I'm leaning towards the in memory since it means much less disk access, but the on disk method means that it will remember online users if the bot crashes and will not require them to log in again Sep 27 01:08:25 store it in the cloud :P Sep 27 01:08:40 cloud is not an option Sep 27 01:08:51 the users are stored on disk anyway right? Sep 27 01:09:00 (this is for a irc bot btw) Sep 27 01:09:06 and yes, registered users are Sep 27 01:09:13 then just add another variable Sep 27 01:09:16 online/offline Sep 27 01:09:24 but online users includes temp users that get removed when they leave Sep 27 01:11:47 I think for now im going to stick with in memory. Its not a big deal to change (literally replacing "memory" with "nStore") though Sep 27 01:13:04 heh... broken module loading works Sep 27 01:47:06 hi all Sep 27 01:47:40 can someone answer a question i have about responding to orientation changes? Sep 27 01:49:53 Most likely. Sep 27 01:49:57 * KGF2009 pokes halfhalo. Sep 27 01:50:08 what in the what what? Sep 27 01:50:36 * halfhalo doesn't know anything about orientation changes in mojo Sep 27 01:51:04 ...oil? Sep 27 01:52:40 mbarvian: the answer to your question is yes. Sep 27 01:55:45 BMyers: thanks Sep 27 01:55:45 but what is the answer to yes? Sep 27 01:55:46 ! Sep 27 01:56:01 BMyers: how can I respond to setting the orientation to, let's say, left? Sep 27 01:57:07 depends on what you are looking to do Sep 27 01:57:22 BMyers: specifically, push a scene when the orientation is changed to left Sep 27 01:58:03 BMyers: couldn't find any documentation on reading the orientation, just setting it Sep 27 01:58:11 KGF2009: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/govnah.git;a=blob;f=app/assistants/graph-assistant.js;h=7e0b9af8d3688726382c3ff6892dbfe65767f423;hb=HEAD#l87 Sep 27 01:58:13 line 87 Sep 27 01:58:25 and the if statement at the top of activate Sep 27 01:58:56 Oh, no, it wasn't my question. Sep 27 01:59:01 * KGF2009 pokes mbarvian towards that link. Sep 27 02:00:07 Mojo.Event.orientationChange Sep 27 02:00:22 oil: perfect, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Sep 27 02:00:48 np Sep 27 02:00:49 mbarvian listen for what haeffb said Sep 27 02:01:07 then read the change to "left" and push a scene Sep 27 02:03:22 thanks guys Sep 27 02:03:42 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1859#.orientationChange Sep 27 02:12:06 spoke too soon Sep 27 02:12:27 here's what I've got: Sep 27 02:12:31 in my setup: Sep 27 02:12:33 this.controller.listen(document, 'orientationchange', this.handleOrientation.bindAsEventListener(this)); Sep 27 02:13:03 actually: here's a pastie: Sep 27 02:14:06 http://pastie.org/1183525 Sep 27 02:14:12 ^^ doesn't seem to be working, however Sep 27 02:15:36 g2g Sep 27 02:15:40 i'll tackle it in the morning Sep 27 02:15:43 thanks for your help everyone Sep 27 02:16:54 you dont need the listener Sep 27 02:16:56 oh Sep 27 02:17:33 oil, how do I change the contents of a list that is already displayed? Sep 27 02:17:53 with css? Sep 27 02:18:16 ... Sep 27 02:18:28 Maybe I'm not good with WebOS but I don't see how CSS could do that. O-o Sep 27 02:18:41 change the model of hte list, the call this.controller.modelChanged(model) Sep 27 02:18:49 (the model has the items) Sep 27 02:18:51 you have element a and b in the row Sep 27 02:19:00 a with the class "vert" Sep 27 02:19:04 b with the class "horz" Sep 27 02:19:43 on orientation change, change the class of the list container Sep 27 02:20:11 and use .list.vert .vert { display: inline; } Sep 27 02:20:24 list.horz .vert { display: none; } Sep 27 02:20:49 and vice-versa for .list.vert/horz .horz Sep 27 02:20:54 I didn't have orientation in mind. Sep 27 02:20:58 I just meant the contents. Sep 27 02:21:17 But thanks. :) Sep 27 02:21:22 the contents of each row item to change based on orientation? Sep 27 02:21:35 No. Sep 27 02:22:03 The contents of each row item to change based on new data. Sep 27 02:22:46 IE: I'm making a World Clock app, and when the user selects a new timezone to be displayed in the list, I want to be able to change the list to reflect that. Sep 27 02:23:46 oh Sep 27 02:23:47 where did you ask that? Sep 27 02:23:47 oh Sep 27 02:23:47 i thought it was still in reference to orientation changed stuff Sep 27 02:23:47 yeah, what tibfib said Sep 27 02:23:48 lol Sep 27 02:23:48 I hate regex Sep 27 02:23:48 and callback Sep 27 02:23:48 mostly callback right now Sep 27 02:23:48 regback Sep 27 02:23:49 OH GOD THE HORROR Sep 27 02:25:46 I have to use callbacks for the auth system... using async.series for node doesn't work. Only reason I thought it did was because the memory get was happening really fast Sep 27 02:27:26 had to override Palm styles to make the Palm styles work for swipe-to-delete in a custom dialog....bogus, but it's working now Sep 27 02:29:24 sugardave: lol Sep 27 02:29:49 KGF2009: do what I said above Sep 27 02:30:14 night everyone Sep 27 02:30:18 night Sep 27 02:34:31 hi sugardave Sep 27 02:35:14 hey hey Sep 27 02:43:26 heh... Sep 27 02:43:33 !register now please Sep 27 02:43:33 BAD TOUCHING! Sep 27 02:52:54 Hmm, I appear to have lost my backup battery for my pre Sep 27 02:54:02 you got a backup battery? Sep 27 02:54:06 i didn't get one :( Sep 27 02:57:20 Wolvenhaven: They're like $9 on amazon Sep 27 02:57:24 oh ok Sep 27 02:57:31 Or $11 with tax from your local sprint store Sep 27 02:57:35 Or at least from mine Sep 27 02:57:44 cause my battery dies in a day, and i'm too lazy to carry the wireless charger around with me Sep 27 02:57:53 i think i'm just going to wire a second wireless charger into my truck **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 27 02:59:57 2010