**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 03 02:59:57 2010 Oct 03 03:00:09 yes Oct 03 03:00:18 no help? Oct 03 03:01:12 i'm still not happy with the gps. hopefully Rick can figure it out Oct 03 03:01:40 JenP: it's 45 in Macon MO and some chick holding suntan lotion is on my screen Oct 03 03:01:57 lol hmm that doesn't seem right Oct 03 03:01:59 haha Oct 03 03:02:04 lol Oct 03 03:02:14 let me look at the server file Oct 03 03:02:38 she's doesn't appear to be "cold" though Oct 03 03:03:08 lol yeah...palm censors "cold" appearances Oct 03 03:03:22 do I set GPS enable or disable? Oct 03 03:03:35 you can try enabled Oct 03 03:03:46 w/ no zip? Oct 03 03:03:49 i get inconsistent results from it so i don't know Oct 03 03:03:50 yes Oct 03 03:04:12 seemed to work Oct 03 03:04:42 now it keeps asking for zipcode Oct 03 03:04:50 then it didn't work Oct 03 03:05:13 hmmm Oct 03 03:05:52 worked once, then not Oct 03 03:06:07 darn..kk Oct 03 03:06:43 yup i'm looking at the macon...that's weird it should have taken the weather temp and conditions to make image Oct 03 03:07:07 * haeffb going back to Calvin & Hobbes wallpaper Oct 03 03:07:19 lol kk thanks for testing Oct 03 03:10:01 haeffb: yeah, it doesn't help Oct 03 03:10:38 you don't get a checkmark? Oct 03 03:10:47 no, checkmark Oct 03 03:12:13 but you do get the checkbox Oct 03 03:12:18 I meant no checkmark, in case I wasn't clear with this "," Oct 03 03:12:36 I don't understand why, I tried to many things Oct 03 03:12:48 There is one way I got checkmarks but I see errors on the console Oct 03 03:13:17 that's when I played with instantiateChildWidgets Oct 03 03:13:30 what if you change some of "checked": false to "checked": true Oct 03 03:13:41 do those show up with a checkmark? Oct 03 03:14:44 not all, actually only the first one of each divided section doesn't Oct 03 03:15:34 maybe an issue with the collapsible dividers - i haven't used those. Oct 03 03:15:51 there is only one line with "checked: false" and it is where I said I put it so I can change that single line to a true Oct 03 03:16:32 oh, no. Oct 03 03:16:35 same problem with "checked: true" Oct 03 03:16:41 I had you put it in the wrong place. Oct 03 03:16:49 I can change it then ;) Oct 03 03:16:53 no worries hehe Oct 03 03:16:59 it needs to be a property of the list item Oct 03 03:17:10 I meant in the setupHolidaysData function Oct 03 03:17:23 {id: 1, country:$L("Canada"), name:$L("All Canada Holidays", "checked": false)}, Oct 03 03:17:35 and/or "checked": true Oct 03 03:17:45 mix 'em up and see what you get Oct 03 03:17:57 {id: 1, country:$L("Canada"), name:$L("All Canada Holidays"), checked:true} Oct 03 03:18:00 like this? Oct 03 03:18:08 "checked": true/false Oct 03 03:18:14 with """"" marks Oct 03 03:18:20 ok Oct 03 03:18:24 not required, but good habit Oct 03 03:18:30 I don't think checked is reserved Oct 03 03:18:51 true Oct 03 03:19:02 have you used collapsible dividers? Oct 03 03:19:12 yes, they suck mightily Oct 03 03:19:19 I have to micromanage them Oct 03 03:19:34 put my own listeners on the arrows, handle hiding the section, etc. Oct 03 03:20:24 check out iHaveSpirit source for the true horror Oct 03 03:21:50 I did a lot of searches on the web and saw a lot of people had issues when using the code in the Style Matters example. It took me a while to figure it out but it's probably because I never really coded in JavaScript hehe Oct 03 03:22:43 Spanska: style matters and collapsible dividers...that's one of the hard ones Oct 03 03:23:00 I just never really liked the way they work Oct 03 03:23:01 when I dug into it, that's when I figured I was better off managing it myself Oct 03 03:23:32 I kind of like the UI effect, but you have to ask yourself if it's worth the hassle Oct 03 03:23:36 I like the way they do it with the div.. I've never really worked with Drawers though as I'm just starting on WebOS Oct 03 03:23:43 sugardave: so true Oct 03 03:23:50 DRAWERS SUCK Oct 03 03:23:52 that is all Oct 03 03:24:12 bah. you just have to treat them gently Oct 03 03:24:17 don't go slamming them closed Oct 03 03:25:07 after adding the property, I can see checkmarks Oct 03 03:25:15 I still do not understand why the listen doesn't work Oct 03 03:29:20 there's one thing though, when I added a listen to "element{id}", I could get the taps but I had to do something tricky to figure out if the checkbox was tapped or not. I think it wasn't a nice way to do this so after reading a bit about Mojo.Event.propertyChange, I thought I had to use that Oct 03 03:30:09 the code I used is still in the manageCheckboxes function, I didn't go to the point where I checked if the checkbox was checked or not because I didn't know how to do it yet Oct 03 03:30:54 you can see if the checkbox is checked or not by checking the list model items array Oct 03 03:31:13 if the item has checked: true, it's checked. if checked: false, it's not Oct 03 03:31:42 you don't really need to listen for propertyChange on the checkboxes unless you want to take some action right when they're checked Oct 03 03:32:15 oh ok, even using my way, no checkmark appeared Oct 03 03:33:12 hopefully I won't have to listen for events and check the box manually.. I would like to check a few of them if a certain one receives a check Oct 03 03:34:04 Mojo.Event.propertyChange isn't a listed event for List widgets Oct 03 03:35:03 you can control whether they're checked or not by changing the checked property for each item. update the models items array and then call this.controller.modelChanged(this.model) Oct 03 03:35:21 Oh. That may be your problem. You're using this.model for both widgets. That's a no-no. Oct 03 03:35:40 give each a unique name Oct 03 03:35:48 this.buttonModel, this.holidayListModel something like that Oct 03 03:36:32 same for this.attributes, although that's not as important since the attributes are only used once Oct 03 03:38:04 Spanska: (just pinging, in case you're listening, but not looking...) Oct 03 03:42:05 sorry, I was in the living room Oct 03 03:44:45 I adjusted my code to this actually: http://webos101.com/List_Widget_With_Checkbox_Example Oct 03 03:45:45 haeffb: where am I using the same model? I use a certain model for my list and none for the checkbox Oct 03 03:46:21 you had this.model for the button and for the list Oct 03 03:46:42 http://pastebin.com/atwzaed3 Oct 03 03:48:23 Isn't the content of the variable replaced when it is defined again for the list? Oct 03 03:49:59 widget models last as long as the widgets are around Oct 03 03:50:22 and you can't change the model unless you call setWidgetModel Oct 03 03:50:26 I'll rename them then Oct 03 03:50:33 at least one of them Oct 03 03:50:55 but, say you use this.myHolidayListModel = {...} Oct 03 03:51:15 then the items array can be accessed later with this.myHolidayListModel.items Oct 03 03:51:26 I like to make an object to represent my widgets: this.widget = {id: theId, attributes:{}, model:{}}; that way I don't use the wrong one Oct 03 03:51:32 and then if items[i].checked {...} Oct 03 03:52:27 it didn't fix the checkbox problem though :\ Oct 03 03:52:32 sugardave likes to make things more complicated to keep them simple Oct 03 03:52:57 oh, it's not that complicated :P Oct 03 03:53:20 Spanska: what happens if you set every other checked: to true Oct 03 03:53:31 do the checks show up or not? Oct 03 03:54:00 I'll try with false, true, false, true, etc Oct 03 03:55:03 haeffb: yes, they remain checked (or unchecked) when I try to check/uncheck them Oct 03 03:55:34 are you getting any errors in the logs? Oct 03 03:56:45 No, actually I ssh to the emulator and run "log com.myname,myappname", is that the way I should look at them? Oct 03 03:58:23 I use palm-log -f com.my.app Oct 03 03:58:41 oh man, log is awesome Oct 03 03:58:41 from a command prompt Oct 03 03:58:55 I've type tail -f blahblahblah a million times Oct 03 03:59:12 Spanska: what you're using works just fine Oct 03 03:59:40 ok, I just tried palm-log and it doesn't seem to exist, *fewf* Oct 03 03:59:51 and you can even just use a short piece of the app id, it's grepping for that text Oct 03 03:59:57 Spanska: palm-log is on your host machine Oct 03 04:00:00 not the emu Oct 03 04:00:02 ok Oct 03 04:00:16 so, no errors Oct 03 04:05:14 r u seeing the 'yay' when you tap a checkbox? Oct 03 04:06:19 no Oct 03 04:06:29 and do the collapsible dividers work? Oct 03 04:06:48 yes Oct 03 04:07:13 I made sure they worked fine before adding the checkbox ;) Oct 03 04:07:24 It took me quite a while to get them working properly hehe Oct 03 04:08:26 If I uncomment this line: this.controller.listen(this.controller.get("itemCheckbox"), Mojo.Event.propertyChange, this.manageCheckboxes.bind(this)); I get an error Oct 03 04:08:49 Error: Error: requireDefined Failed: Mojo.Event.listen: 'target' parameter must be defined., line undefined, file undefined, Oct 03 04:09:35 I can't see anything else. If it were me, I'd comment out the collapsible stuff to see if they're interfering with the checkboxes Oct 03 04:10:02 ah Oct 03 04:10:03 I know Oct 03 04:10:06 nevermind, forgot to change name to id in the HTML Oct 03 04:10:21 if you use this.controller.listen, don't use this.controller.get(id) for the id Oct 03 04:10:25 just use the string Oct 03 04:10:28 after the change, it doesn't give the error anymore, but the function still isn't called Oct 03 04:10:35 ok Oct 03 04:10:53 sugardave: do you mean for the checkbox line I uncommented? Oct 03 04:10:53 if you use Mojo.Event.listen, then you have to use this.controller.get(id) Oct 03 04:10:59 yes Oct 03 04:11:14 but not for propertyChange? Oct 03 04:11:48 nevermind Oct 03 04:11:55 should I use Mojo.Event.listen instead? Oct 03 04:12:05 shouldn't matter Oct 03 04:12:35 yay, sugardave Oct 03 04:12:46 Spanska: for all the listeners Oct 03 04:12:48 still no change for the problem Oct 03 04:12:54 I'll change that Oct 03 04:13:33 this line works fine though: this.controller.listen(compressCountry, Mojo.Event.tap, this.showHolidays.bind(this, compressCountry)); Oct 03 04:13:44 that's ok Oct 03 04:13:57 and compressCountry = this.controller.get("compress" + this.holidaysData[i].country); Oct 03 04:14:14 # Oct 03 04:14:14 this.controller.listen(this.controller.get("holidaysList"), Mojo.Event.listChange, this.handleListSubWidgetChanges); Oct 03 04:14:14 # Oct 03 04:14:14 this.controller.listen(this.controller.get("holidaysList"), Mojo.Event.propertyChange, this.handleListSubWidgetChanges); Oct 03 04:14:15 Oct 03 04:14:18 wait, do you have multiple "itemCheckbox" _id_s in the DOM? Oct 03 04:14:25 yeah Oct 03 04:14:29 no Oct 03 04:14:31 that's a no Oct 03 04:14:36 he doesn't Oct 03 04:14:48 he just changed them, I think Oct 03 04:14:48 well, each element will have it's own checkbox Oct 03 04:15:03 is that counted as many? Oct 03 04:15:06 id="element#{id} Oct 03 04:15:29 ok Oct 03 04:15:44 name="itemCheckbox" Oct 03 04:15:59 or that's what it was an hour ago... :) Oct 03 04:16:02 heh Oct 03 04:16:04 each itemCheckbox is contained in a different element{#id} Oct 03 04:16:15 Spanska: right, but is it still name=? Oct 03 04:16:28 for the checkbox widget div Oct 03 04:16:42 I have this right now:
Oct 03 04:16:46 no Oct 03 04:16:53 oh, no don't do that Oct 03 04:16:58 get rid of id="itemCheckbox" Oct 03 04:17:09 id must be unique in the entire DOM Oct 03 04:17:10 id's must be unique Oct 03 04:17:37 you COULD make it id="itemCheckbox#{id}" Oct 03 04:17:53 but you don't NEED to Oct 03 04:18:01 and then grab them all, loop through and put a listener on them that way Oct 03 04:18:07 bah. Oct 03 04:18:12 listen to the list Oct 03 04:18:29 I did some other changes too Oct 03 04:18:31 in the js Oct 03 04:18:38 the list will tell you everything. it's really bad at keeping sekrits Oct 03 04:18:55 but it isn't working... Oct 03 04:18:57 :D Oct 03 04:19:05 this.controller.listen("itemCheckbox", Mojo.Event.propertyChange, this.manageCheckboxes.bind(this)); Oct 03 04:19:05 so, I'm still helping you fix the old code. Oct 03 04:19:21 no worries, it's not that old Oct 03 04:19:31 this.controller.listen("holidaysList", Mojo.Event.listChange, this.handleListSubWidgetChanges); Oct 03 04:19:32 yeah, but it's not what you're working on anymore Oct 03 04:19:43 this.controller.listen("holidaysList", Mojo.Event.propertyChange, this.handleListSubWidgetChanges); Oct 03 04:19:46 don't listen to the "itemCheckbox" Oct 03 04:19:54 ok, just the other two? Oct 03 04:19:56 yes Oct 03 04:20:08 Spanska: haeffb makes a valid point, there should just be a listener for the list and in there you check the value of the item's 'checked' property..hell, you can even see if the tap target was the checkbox and do special processing that way Oct 03 04:20:46 ok, I'll post the files again, they should have all the changes you requested, but I still have the problem Oct 03 04:20:48 "haeffb makes a valid point" Oct 03 04:21:05 * haeffb writing that one down... :) Oct 03 04:21:08 haha Oct 03 04:22:15 again, I would simplify - comment out everying in acivate(). see if the checkboxes work or not. then slowly add stuff back in. Oct 03 04:22:53 http://pastebin.com/kp0uCCVn Oct 03 04:22:53 also the dividerFunction: this.holidayCountry in your list attributes Oct 03 04:25:35 the collapsible dividers still work properly, since the very first line I added in the HTML to have checkboxes in the list, I could never put a checkmark in them through my app Oct 03 04:26:18 i made a snake sculpture out of machinegun links from an m249 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs047.snc4/34718_1531581644365_1079472750_31505832_7282262_n.jpg Oct 03 04:26:39 with the code I just posted, I don't have any errors in the logs either Oct 03 04:27:00 checkboxes never worked since the beginning Oct 03 04:27:05 Spanska: I know. but to make sure they're not somehow interfering with the checkboxes, I would comment out that code to simplify to just the plain list and checkboxes Oct 03 04:27:17 ok Oct 03 04:27:37 without the collapsible dividers, I don't see the list though Oct 03 04:27:39 comment dividerTemplate and dividerFunction in list attribs as well Oct 03 04:27:44 ok Oct 03 04:30:06 haeffb: that was a very good idea Oct 03 04:30:24 now they work? Oct 03 04:30:29 they work now.. I also uncommented the 3 lines used to add their listeners and the code goes to "yay" Oct 03 04:30:34 yay! Oct 03 04:30:37 woo! Oct 03 04:30:41 but, what's breaking them? Oct 03 04:30:51 ah man.. now, what can cause this headache Oct 03 04:31:41 oh... I put the listeners in the for loop Oct 03 04:31:50 that's bad Oct 03 04:32:44 that's bad Oct 03 04:33:06 duh. Should have seen that long ago Oct 03 04:33:46 me too Oct 03 04:33:50 I think that was the problem Oct 03 04:34:00 woo! Oct 03 04:34:48 I just uncommented everything else and the problem came back, so it must also be something else Oct 03 04:36:11 boo! Oct 03 04:37:29 compressableCountry.insert(this.controller.get("element" + holidaysItemID)); Oct 03 04:39:55 you think it could be that line? Oct 03 04:41:00 so, that line is inserting the list row into the compressableCountry element. Oct 03 04:41:07 it's something in the for loop for sure Oct 03 04:41:08 yes Oct 03 04:41:25 I'll check this out tomorrow, thanks for your help, this is much appreciated! Oct 03 04:41:33 but the list row is already in the DOM as part of the list. I don't know what happens to the widget Oct 03 04:41:40 when you do that insert Oct 03 04:42:01 have a good night Oct 03 04:42:15 maybe search dev forum for widgets in a list with collapsible dividers... ? Oct 03 04:43:36 good idea Oct 03 04:45:24 K Oct 03 04:47:05 renegaid: are you using an Android IRC client? Oct 03 04:49:29 shunnnn Oct 03 05:00:00 yea o was trying out one Oct 03 05:01:58 :/ Oct 03 05:02:07 hows it stack up to wirc? Oct 03 05:04:27 wirc is better Oct 03 05:04:47 getting ready to leave the pre though Oct 03 05:05:07 that sucks Oct 03 05:07:28 yea Oct 03 05:07:38 had it for over a year. Oct 03 05:07:59 warranty is up and it has issues Oct 03 05:08:12 * oil will switch when pre2 comes out :) Oct 03 05:41:16 i figure by the time that comes around i'll qualify for another upgrade Oct 03 05:41:35 hi everyone...does anyone work with admob? or is there a better ad network to use? Oct 03 06:56:35 Anyone in? Oct 03 06:57:57 I went and installed a theme on my pre, didnt uninstall it and installed another one. So now my default is Call of Duty. Anyone know how to get the original theme back? Oct 03 07:03:49 Anyone there? Oct 03 07:04:00 hi Oct 03 12:38:46 var greet = $L("Good Morning") + #webOS; Oct 03 12:42:09 Morning's Oct 03 12:53:17 wise guy Oct 03 13:00:15 what's kickin' in New York? Oct 03 13:01:49 me. its getting chilly! Oct 03 13:02:13 *yawn* Oct 03 13:02:17 good morning Oct 03 13:03:34 *stretch* Oct 03 13:03:43 yeah, first frost here today. Oct 03 13:05:17 yikes Oct 03 13:31:37 hi Oct 03 13:32:59 is there way of getting the beta sdk other than dropbox? i just saw the whole deletion mess and currently the os x sdk is missing again Oct 03 13:34:33 to make things worse, i got granted access to the wrong private forum (project ares instead of sdk) :( Oct 03 13:38:13 lol Oct 03 13:38:16 (sorry) Oct 03 13:38:42 :) Oct 03 13:58:07 i dont see any sdk's in dropbox right now Oct 03 13:59:18 i see windows and debian packages in a folder named "2.0.0.477_ DONT DELETE" Oct 03 14:00:22 yeah that folder is MT on my side Oct 03 14:04:07 haeffb: probably deleted something Oct 03 14:04:20 so he could have it to himself Oct 03 14:24:35 * haeffb_pre finally tried songwave. kinda cool Oct 03 15:29:26 I finally fixed the issue Oct 03 15:30:43 I used the Inspector and found there were very slight differences and everything looked fine. I remember I read about dynamic widgets so I thought I should create the checkbox dynamically after I do the insert and it worked perfectly! Oct 03 15:42:40 Spanska: cool. can you post what you learned on http://www.webos101.com ? Oct 03 15:42:41 maybe an example? Oct 03 15:43:58 I'll try, I just have to make sure I know how to read the checkbox that was checked which is what I am trying to sort out right now Oct 03 15:46:32 I'm almost done, would it be ok if I comment all my code paste it there and give some more explanations? Oct 03 15:47:22 perfect Oct 03 15:48:47 Palm's documentation isn't so much better from the one with Palm OS, unfortunately Oct 03 15:57:41 What is in an event object? Oct 03 16:13:22 morning all Oct 03 16:14:36 Morning JenP Oct 03 16:15:05 hi hotdp Oct 03 16:42:08 Spanska: depends on the event Oct 03 16:53:34 What kind of risks can I expect from UberKernel on screenstate 500/1000? Oct 03 17:04:03 KGF2009: that's probably better answered in #webos-internals Oct 03 17:36:04 wth is wrong with opendns these days? Oct 03 17:37:16 is there a straightforward-ish way to replace the function of swipe-delete with swipe-something-else? Oct 03 18:09:25 seems I've gone source diving. I should have a method for this shortly Oct 03 19:23:14 hi, can someone help me with my little problem...my mic and speaker isnt working, loudspeaker works fine and HF. sometimes mic and speaker works fine but mostly no Oct 03 19:24:50 do you have any patches or anything not part of the stock webos? Oct 03 19:24:56 nope Oct 03 19:25:05 when did it stop working? Oct 03 19:25:57 when i got it i used it like 3months then i got new phone and stopped using pre. about 2weeks ago i started to use pre again and maybe 3days later those things happened Oct 03 19:26:04 tried full reset Oct 03 19:26:09 and runned webos Oct 03 19:26:14 what were you doing at the time it broke? Oct 03 19:26:17 i think the phone thinks its still using hf Oct 03 19:26:26 no idea Oct 03 19:26:34 could be hardware Oct 03 19:26:34 nothing special Oct 03 19:26:53 if a software reset didn't fix it Oct 03 19:27:29 i searched via google, and some ppl said it was software and some said it was hardware Oct 03 19:27:39 does palm have worldwide warrany? Oct 03 19:27:42 *warranty Oct 03 19:27:58 no idea Oct 03 19:28:27 got the phone from UK but now im noway near uk Oct 03 19:36:56 they should Oct 03 19:37:01 how old is it? Oct 03 19:37:22 you tried to doctor it right? Oct 03 19:54:59 ye i've tried Oct 03 19:55:12 hmm about 7-8months Oct 03 20:06:50 its lively in here. Oct 03 20:18:12 Friggin ares. I'm gonna nuke it Oct 03 20:19:50 dead bro Oct 03 20:20:55 does anyone know how the palm warranty works? Oct 03 20:21:04 without taking it to the shop you bought it from Oct 03 20:21:34 I'd recommend taking it to sprint buuuuut not everybody's on sprint Oct 03 20:24:29 the one in coral springs was awesome about replacing my pre, I hope the orlando one is cool too Oct 03 20:32:50 im not on sprin, i got the world version of pre Oct 03 20:33:23 *sprint Oct 03 20:39:11 so whats everyone up to? Oct 03 20:42:36 I see I see. cool Oct 03 20:44:27 i need to change a toggle button from enabled to disabled after a dialogbox ...would this be correct? this.tglGPSmodel.value = false; Oct 03 20:44:50 hmmm I recall that not working as you would think Oct 03 20:44:54 but I can't remembe rnow Oct 03 20:45:03 lol Oct 03 20:45:15 I scrapped toggle boxes after 10 minutes Oct 03 20:45:36 i know what you mean Oct 03 20:46:13 I actually prefer to do custom user-interfaces Oct 03 20:46:46 but guess its different in games Oct 03 20:46:46 :P Oct 03 20:47:46 JenP: did you try changing value then updating the model? Oct 03 20:48:10 no how would i do that? Oct 03 20:48:14 JenP: according to the docs, you should be able to update the model and run modelChanged Oct 03 20:48:19 JenP: come on, you know that one Oct 03 20:48:43 this.controller.modelChanged(theModelYouJustChanged); Oct 03 20:48:51 noooOOOooooo i have damaged brain cells trying to fix the gps Oct 03 20:48:59 ;-) Oct 03 20:49:03 heh Oct 03 20:50:37 rawr Oct 03 20:52:17 anyone feel like beta testing? Oct 03 20:53:10 me? Oct 03 20:53:23 if you'd like Oct 03 20:53:34 pm me your email add Oct 03 20:53:39 ofc ID LIKE Oct 03 20:53:44 lol Oct 03 20:55:12 fulltilt ? Oct 03 20:55:24 Bmyers!!! Oct 03 20:55:47 hi Jenp Oct 03 20:56:07 hello Oct 03 20:57:30 ALABAMA ARKANSAS Oct 03 20:57:31 do you have any patches on your phone to increase the memory allocation? Oct 03 20:57:45 sorry wrong window Oct 03 21:00:37 ok this is really homo. Oct 03 21:00:46 homo? Oct 03 21:00:52 homosexual Oct 03 21:00:54 gay Oct 03 21:01:07 lol ok...what is? Oct 03 21:01:44 http://pastebin.com/snCXmMuX Exhibit A Oct 03 21:02:36 So my processingDiv never actually shows up Oct 03 21:03:39 lol that is funny Oct 03 21:03:47 how is it funny Oct 03 21:03:55 O_O_OO_O_O_O Oct 03 21:04:04 so you want to show it put a condition on it and hide it? Oct 03 21:04:26 huh? I want to show it at the beginning of the function and at the end hide it Oct 03 21:04:52 that;s not going to do it how you want Oct 03 21:05:07 all those timers fire async, so your function goes through in a couple of ms Oct 03 21:05:12 show; 2ms; hide Oct 03 21:05:13 game.generateAwayEvents(); can take 0.1 seconds to calculate or 10 seconds to calculate depending on how long its been since the app was opened Oct 03 21:05:27 sugardave: negative Oct 03 21:05:31 okay Oct 03 21:05:35 back to floors Oct 03 21:05:36 and she left her web cam on? Oct 03 21:05:39 good luck Oct 03 21:05:47 oops, wrong window Oct 03 21:05:52 what? LOL Oct 03 21:06:07 So basically it should be working but its not Oct 03 21:06:21 just making fun of u ;) Oct 03 21:06:30 oh, one more thing...is stage really a scene? Oct 03 21:06:35 nodnod Oct 03 21:06:36 or is it the stage controller? Oct 03 21:06:38 Tempted to make my sqlite orm work in mojo... Oct 03 21:06:40 uhhh Oct 03 21:06:49 stageActivate is just a function I created Oct 03 21:06:49 stageActivate refers to.... Oct 03 21:06:55 stage means.... Oct 03 21:06:55 Well, right after I fix the subtable thingie Oct 03 21:06:59 its bound to document.activate Oct 03 21:07:08 obviously Oct 03 21:07:16 I'm a fool for even questioning it Oct 03 21:07:19 please continue Oct 03 21:08:07 ugh Oct 03 21:08:28 lets try removing .hide() Oct 03 21:09:29 ugh i totally need a bigger fridge.. went grocery shopping and almost didnt get everything to fit in the freezer.. my fridge is stupid small :\ Oct 03 21:09:33 oook. so it works if I dont hide the div so obviously its taking more time to show a simple div than it is to execute 3 seconds worth of code Oct 03 21:09:46 ours is small too so we have a mini fridge. Oct 03 21:09:56 we keep our sauces and condiments and such in there. Oct 03 21:10:00 and my beer Oct 03 21:10:14 yum Oct 03 21:10:36 well put it this way, i can only fit a 12pack and 2 2liters on the bottom shelf Oct 03 21:10:50 same Oct 03 21:10:52 :) Oct 03 21:11:02 i cant even put a digiorno pizza in the freezer without it being at an angle and just barely catchign the shelf so it doesnt fall out Oct 03 21:11:13 heh Oct 03 21:11:25 but it came with the house and its new, so ill have to suffer for now Oct 03 21:11:36 my wife is a tetris queen so she's got our freezer efficiently holding a ton of stuff Oct 03 21:12:56 dr.pepper number 2... DOWNED Oct 03 21:14:24 setTimeout(function(){this.controller.get("processingDiv").hide();}, 1000); YES: [ ] NO: [ ] ? Oct 03 21:14:47 jslint says YES: [ X ] Oct 03 21:15:27 but testing says NO: [ X ] Oct 03 21:15:44 I choose option 3 Oct 03 21:15:50 which is? Oct 03 21:15:54 Cake! Oct 03 21:15:57 :( Oct 03 21:16:07 i duznt like cakes Oct 03 21:16:50 but seriously shouldnt that work? putting the function inline lik ethat Oct 03 21:17:39 this may not refer to this Oct 03 21:17:41 * halfhalo bbl Oct 03 21:17:52 no errors though O_O Oct 03 21:45:15 you have to bind it Oct 03 21:45:34 setTimeout(function(){}.bind(this), ms); Oct 03 21:46:37 Anivrom: ^^^ Oct 03 21:53:17 ^this Oct 03 22:18:24 pfft, it irks me when I thought I had deleted spammer stuff from webos101.com and it's still there. Oct 03 22:18:32 :/ Oct 03 22:54:44 Anyone here? Oct 03 22:54:55 maybe >_> Oct 03 22:55:01 I went and installed a theme on my pre, didnt uninstall it and installed another one. So now my default is Call of Duty. Anyone know how to get the original theme back? Oct 03 22:55:23 yea uninstall it in preware Oct 03 22:55:37 I did. My default is set to call of duty even when I dont have a theme installed. Oct 03 22:55:43 I basically overwrote the default theme. Oct 03 22:55:52 Now my startup and Icons are cod. Oct 03 22:56:01 I see. Well then I suggest you search for Original Oct 03 22:56:18 I tried, could not find any:/ Oct 03 22:57:27 Joshkara: you can check in #webos-internals, or you might have to doctor your phone to get the originals back, not sure since I don't use themes Oct 03 22:57:37 #webos-internals would be a great place to ask. I have not tried going back to defauilt Oct 03 22:57:45 heh Oct 03 22:58:02 Haha alright. I know the doctor works but it wont fix the icons :/ Oct 03 22:58:08 lame Oct 03 22:58:11 rly? Oct 03 22:58:15 Yes Oct 03 22:58:20 weird Oct 03 22:58:37 I know. So if you ever put a new theme on, remember to uninstall the old one first haha Oct 03 22:58:56 Or the one you had before the new one will be the new default theme for your palm :D Oct 03 23:11:29 whoa... google searches as you type now.. Oct 03 23:11:37 what will they think of next?!?!?! Oct 03 23:14:24 a mobile phone operating system Oct 03 23:14:29 except they'll blow it Oct 03 23:14:58 JenP: PINNNGGGALINNGGGALONNNGGGG Oct 03 23:16:31 gksdlhtlgfsdklapfdofeamfpd'sjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjlf Oct 03 23:16:45 gksdlhtlgfsdklapfdofeamfpd'sjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjlfv74d109/,*i94589kh4g6i4g87bvd yfuwrt Oct 03 23:18:10 yyawwwnnn Oct 03 23:18:30 * codeslaw is yawning Oct 03 23:19:43 * Anivrom sticks finger in codeslaw's mouth while he's yawning Oct 03 23:19:51 Anivrom: what's up Oct 03 23:20:14 * codeslaw chomps down extremely hard, as he always does after yawning Oct 03 23:20:20 ok so I found a couple issues with your gps app, I dont know if its finished yet but the first issue is, well, it doesn't work Oct 03 23:20:33 :D Oct 03 23:20:34 lol yeah we're working on that Oct 03 23:20:41 did you get the too manycards though? Oct 03 23:20:46 nope Oct 03 23:21:00 really? Oct 03 23:21:10 also the help page needs {disableSceneScroller: true} Oct 03 23:21:20 sigh i realllly regret giving up my developer phone Oct 03 23:21:29 smiles..help page also needs help... Oct 03 23:21:33 :P Oct 03 23:21:36 lol Oct 03 23:21:50 thank you i'll take care of that. what else Oct 03 23:22:06 hmm well not much to test if it doesn't work, does it support canada? Oct 03 23:22:31 idk did you put in a canadian zip? Oct 03 23:22:38 lulz Oct 03 23:22:41 cause adding zip to textfield will work Oct 03 23:22:44 JenP: gave up your phone? Oct 03 23:22:44 Anivrom: you canadian? Oct 03 23:22:55 ;) Oct 03 23:22:57 Bmyers: ;) Oct 03 23:23:09 haeffb_pre: friend broke his phone...... Oct 03 23:23:22 so i still have my phone, but no longer have my developer phone Oct 03 23:23:22 Yea I'm from hamilton you're from vancouver/calgary/novascotia Oct 03 23:23:36 oh Oct 03 23:24:13 JenP: protip: canadians dont have zip codes, they have postal codes, which are 6 characters long. Letter Number Letter Number Letter Number Oct 03 23:24:45 So if you are intending to support us caniucks I suggest putting Zip Code / Postal Code: in the label description Oct 03 23:24:57 kk can do Oct 03 23:25:26 Nothing bugs me more than software that says zip code, when it supports postal codes too. But you never truely know cuase it only says Zip Code Oct 03 23:25:29 you don't have to support canucks though Oct 03 23:25:38 lol Oct 03 23:25:40 they dont care what the weather is anyway Oct 03 23:25:46 Actually 1 more thing bugs me more, when software DOESNT SUPPORT POSTAL CODES Oct 03 23:25:47 they're not like a protected class Oct 03 23:25:55 lol Oct 03 23:26:27 let them write their own apps Oct 03 23:26:40 Nothing worse then signing up for a contest, filling out every piece of information, only to come to the Zip Code section, put your postal code in, submit the form, and have it endlessly tell you its not a valid zip code Oct 03 23:26:56 cry me a portage Oct 03 23:27:03 * Anivrom cries a portage Oct 03 23:27:05 (although, based on Anivrom's progress, it could be awhile) Oct 03 23:27:20 heh. Oct 03 23:27:39 I've given my app a couple weeks break to work on some graphic design contracts. Oct 03 23:29:39 * haeffb_pre needs a new app idea Oct 03 23:29:49 how about Oct 03 23:29:50 skype Oct 03 23:29:53 :( Oct 03 23:30:04 twitter client Oct 03 23:30:18 tip calc? Oct 03 23:30:33 how about one aimed at new developers...? Oct 03 23:30:53 faroob app Oct 03 23:31:03 faroob? Oct 03 23:31:06 oh oh, a note taking app Oct 03 23:31:11 but really simple like Oct 03 23:31:11 canadian <> american language translator? Oct 03 23:31:14 let's get more webos exclusives yo Oct 03 23:31:32 JenP: good idea. shoot them before they become competition Oct 03 23:31:50 lol well that wasn't quite the angle I was approaching but uh...sure... Oct 03 23:31:51 fart/boob in one app Oct 03 23:31:55 lol Oct 03 23:32:13 * Anivrom opens app and sees nothing but a label at 28px fontsize that says "QUIT NOW YOU WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING IN THE WEBOS DEVELOPER WORLD" Oct 03 23:33:21 diet app might be next Oct 03 23:33:35 getting fat haeffb ? Oct 03 23:33:57 yep Oct 03 23:34:08 winters' coming Oct 03 23:34:20 need to lose 10 or 20 pounds Oct 03 23:34:31 i just lost 130 lbs Oct 03 23:34:37 I usually lose weight in winter Oct 03 23:34:46 damn! Oct 03 23:35:08 yeah, my wife went away to a conference Oct 03 23:35:32 130 lbs off the wrist :P Oct 03 23:35:41 gonna gain in all back in 3 days Oct 03 23:36:03 but for now.. whooo hooo Oct 03 23:36:09 Norm Stewart. frmr MU basketball coach, on how much weight one of his players needed to lose... Oct 03 23:36:32 "Oh, about a fifth-grader" Oct 03 23:36:52 ok what's the best way to get a textfield focus after an alertdialog box? Oct 03 23:37:29 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1870&Itemid=259#.advanceFocus Oct 03 23:37:31 ? Oct 03 23:37:48 never done it but that looks similiar Oct 03 23:37:54 this.controller.get(myWidget).mojo.focus() ? Oct 03 23:38:01 BAM Oct 03 23:38:29 haeffb tried that no workie Oct 03 23:38:59 look at the docs..there's a focus method of some sort Oct 03 23:39:12 advanceFocus? Oct 03 23:39:22 a webOS docs app would be cool Oct 03 23:39:58 * sugardave was thinking of writing a "Good App Reviewer" app. Oct 03 23:41:12 don't bother...it would only get 1-star ratings Oct 03 23:41:34 1/2 if I threw in my vote Oct 03 23:42:50 That kind of irony would be too much for the app catalog to handle, I think Oct 03 23:44:22 ooo, how about a $15 app "How to Annoy webOS Developers" Oct 03 23:45:16 which will have pages and pages of docs, but none of them will be right, and some categories will be complely missing Oct 03 23:48:50 nah Oct 03 23:49:00 that's already been done Oct 04 00:18:47 ok so I just dropped my phoen from like 2 feet onto carpet and the screen got messed up. Looked like if you set your monitor to a higher resolution than it can handle with all the lines. Oct 04 00:19:08 Anyone else experience this? I slid it open and it fixed itself Oct 04 00:20:51 Unintalling my kernel in preparation for returning it Oct 04 00:42:35 JenP: did you solve the textfield focus issue? Oct 04 00:52:16 I called verizon, and explained how my palm was buggin out, ( because i dropped it , but i didnt tell him that ) and theyre sending me a replacement:D/ Oct 04 00:54:18 should have talked them in to an incredible Oct 04 00:55:08 I wish Oct 04 00:55:19 They said next time it happens again if the problem persists I can get an upgrade Oct 04 00:55:31 I did want the Incredible originally but I don't have an update until March D: Oct 04 00:56:11 translation: "if you keep complaining, we'll let you give us more money" Oct 04 00:56:49 I know. I had to bitch enough to get a replacement for this. Oct 04 00:57:13 And idk I'm kindof excited about WebOS 2.0 Oct 04 00:58:58 is there a webos 2.0 phone on the (h)verizon i havent heard of? Oct 04 00:59:48 Isn't palm getting webOS 2.0? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 04 02:59:57 2010