**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 29 02:59:57 2010 Oct 29 03:00:54 is there a way to make the app only display in landscape? Oct 29 03:01:21 yes Oct 29 03:01:44 how? Oct 29 03:02:36 instead of setting it to "free" for auto rotation Oct 29 03:02:41 you do something else Oct 29 03:02:45 that i dont know, because ive never done it Oct 29 03:02:47 but im sure its possible Oct 29 03:02:48 lol Oct 29 03:02:52 maybe "left"? Oct 29 03:03:09 hmm...i will investigate Oct 29 03:03:49 most pdk apps only do landscape mode Oct 29 03:06:22 how often do actual HP techs get on this channel? Oct 29 03:07:01 Often. But it depends on what you mean by actual HP techs. Oct 29 03:07:27 I guess developer relations or similar Oct 29 03:07:41 what are you looking for, because frequentlythe homebrew people have BETTER answers because they're not under HP's nondiscolsure Oct 29 03:07:52 Developer relations, almost every day during the work day in Ca. Watch for Chuqi. Oct 29 03:08:05 chuqui* Oct 29 03:08:11 :) Oct 29 03:08:13 just wondering, not looking for anything Oct 29 03:08:34 other sr palm people too. on a pretty regular basis Oct 29 03:08:53 I just get the impression this channel is more frequented by the community and less by HPalm Oct 29 03:09:30 that is correct Oct 29 03:09:49 right. But palm is here on an essentially daily basis. Oct 29 03:10:04 but they don't RUN the room. Oct 29 03:11:14 so apparently sprint customers want sprint to focus on Palm webOS Oct 29 03:11:25 Duh Oct 29 03:11:47 or HP webOS depending on who you're talking to Oct 29 03:12:08 man 50% ahead of android Oct 29 03:12:26 fancy hardware can only take you so far... Oct 29 03:13:54 * Tibfib seems to be here only when palm isn't. Oct 29 03:14:12 * rsanchez1 also Oct 29 03:14:20 you sort of have to be on during the work day in ca time Oct 29 03:14:29 except for adora, who can be here anytime Oct 29 03:15:10 lol the one with the bobble head Oct 29 03:15:28 I was on today during the workday Oct 29 03:15:46 I don't think anyone on then was from palm Oct 29 03:16:16 well, as we said, watch for chuqi and lemketron and there are others. But if you didn't say something they needed to respond to, you would never know Oct 29 03:16:53 I saw chiqui once Oct 29 03:17:12 but yea didn't know chiqui was from palm Oct 29 03:17:13 Yeah. I see chuqui and Adora every once in a while. Oct 29 04:17:53 Oooh Oct 29 04:18:02 Sony acknowledges the Pre Oct 29 04:18:13 in this little survey thing Oct 29 04:18:15 'Other Smartphones (Droid, Palm® Pre™, Sony Ericsson Xperia™)' Oct 29 04:45:34 i'm looking in the documentation but I can't find where to make "custom buttons" ie buttons that don't use the webos built in look but rather use an image of my choice Oct 29 04:45:52 in ares one does palm.picture but I can't seem to get that working in the SDK Oct 29 04:46:28 does anyone have any experience in using their own icons/buttons in the app Oct 29 04:47:04 you would need to create custom models/views Oct 29 04:47:06 prolly Oct 29 04:49:56 cool thanks Oct 29 05:08:51 good evening all Oct 29 05:11:25 hello Oct 29 05:17:40 hello Guest73875 Oct 29 06:14:31 morning Oct 29 06:14:42 morning Oct 29 06:14:51 hows it goign tonight Oct 29 06:14:59 good just chilling Oct 29 06:15:08 no tequila tonight Oct 29 06:15:12 haha Oct 29 06:15:29 lonestar...u going to dev day? Oct 29 06:15:42 was talking about it with my cousin Oct 29 06:15:56 where r u from again? canada US? Oct 29 06:16:18 i would need to fly from mexico, to LAX then LAX to NYC Oct 29 06:16:47 oh yeah......you're like between places or somethign...right...somethign about california Oct 29 06:17:07 here in mexico visiting family, and getting work done, then going back to san diego Oct 29 06:17:29 thats cool....i need a vaction Oct 29 06:17:32 a work vacation Oct 29 06:17:37 yeah Oct 29 06:17:58 no pipes bursting or cars breakign down Oct 29 06:18:09 no leaves to be raked Oct 29 06:18:11 was in san diego "looking" for an apartment for 2.5 weeks, did not accomplish anything Oct 29 06:18:23 well where are u based? Oct 29 06:18:29 u freelance fulltime? Oct 29 06:18:33 yeah Oct 29 06:18:52 get a camper and cruise the country! Oct 29 06:19:12 lived in san diego for like 8 or years, stayed in texas for 1 year, got over it now going back to san diego Oct 29 06:19:15 get wifi service and work on the road Oct 29 06:19:56 but have not seen my mother's side of family for like 10 years, so decided to visit and get work done, then fly back to san diego Oct 29 06:19:57 texas? my wife was n texas Oct 29 06:20:16 yeah brownsville, texas deep south texas Oct 29 06:20:39 but i really want to go to dev days Oct 29 06:20:59 lax to nyc round trip only $270 Oct 29 06:21:02 i hope its good...im dragging some other devs with me Oct 29 06:21:12 yeah that s not bad Oct 29 06:21:23 nope not at all Oct 29 06:21:38 whoolio, you in the east coast? Oct 29 06:21:42 my buddys getting $60 tickets from ct to nashville Oct 29 06:21:45 yeah Oct 29 06:21:47 jersey Oct 29 06:21:53 im a train ride otthe city Oct 29 06:22:10 right on Oct 29 06:22:12 metro north for me Oct 29 06:22:17 yep Oct 29 06:22:22 how far you from the city? Oct 29 06:22:26 abot hours Oct 29 06:22:30 about 2 hours Oct 29 06:22:37 mbyers? you going too? Oct 29 06:22:38 wow, very close Oct 29 06:22:49 yeah. only 1.5 hours north on the hudson Oct 29 06:23:02 ah...ny...my old stomping grounds Oct 29 06:23:11 i really like nyc Oct 29 06:23:12 meh Oct 29 06:23:12 upstate right? Oct 29 06:23:19 WAY upstate Oct 29 06:23:22 have not been since 2003 or 2004 Oct 29 06:23:22 apple knockers Oct 29 06:23:24 poughkepsie Oct 29 06:23:27 ? Oct 29 06:23:41 yup. i am 8 miles south of poughkeepsie Oct 29 06:23:50 fishkill Oct 29 06:23:55 nyc is nice...can't wait to take my baby into to macy's at xmas Oct 29 06:24:05 might wait until next year though Oct 29 06:24:07 do the rock? Oct 29 06:24:11 some skating? Oct 29 06:24:12 wow, that would be sweet Oct 29 06:24:25 rock? whats that? Oct 29 06:24:37 ice skating is cool, even though i kinda suck Oct 29 06:24:42 makes me think of the shwangunks Oct 29 06:24:42 30 rock? Oct 29 06:24:51 the gunks.. Oct 29 06:24:55 yeah.. Oct 29 06:24:55 awesome place eh? Oct 29 06:25:12 the gunks are aweseome....i miss NY's state parks Oct 29 06:25:31 lonestar...noone sucks at ice skating more than me Oct 29 06:25:40 yes. it is nice but winter is coming Oct 29 06:25:54 u in NJ? Oct 29 06:25:55 it is still fun Oct 29 06:26:13 what is the temp in nyc right now? Oct 29 06:26:15 yeah...im in jersey...ton of snow last year Oct 29 06:26:19 whoolio: j'eat ? Oct 29 06:26:26 im jersey its gonna be 40 tonight Oct 29 06:26:30 and 30 tomorrow Oct 29 06:26:35 haha Oct 29 06:26:48 its still warm for shorts though in the day Oct 29 06:27:05 k Oct 29 06:27:06 come on say it.. Oct 29 06:27:30 j'eat? Oct 29 06:27:33 wearing board shorts right now Oct 29 06:27:49 got fire going right now Oct 29 06:28:44 so what the hell are we all doing brungin the midnight oil...the guys from the netherlands and sweeden get on about now! Oct 29 06:28:54 damn wifi is starting to timeout here Oct 29 06:29:09 i'm done Oct 29 06:29:21 going to bed. c u at DD whoolio Oct 29 06:29:31 yeah...later Oct 29 06:29:31 laters bmyers Oct 29 06:29:40 c ya LoneStar99 Oct 29 06:30:25 brb in 10 gonna smoke a cig, while the internet comes back Oct 29 06:30:33 k Oct 29 06:43:52 back wifi still intermitent but oh well Oct 29 06:46:25 welcome to my hell Oct 29 06:46:27 i have comcast Oct 29 06:46:39 worse company ever Oct 29 06:50:07 is document.write broken in the sdk? Oct 29 06:50:36 probably Oct 29 06:51:16 i tried generating this grid of data in javascript and then writing it to the screen and I saw nothing Oct 29 06:51:17 alert and setTimeout don't work as expected so document.write probably doens't either Oct 29 06:51:36 put it in a div with innerHTML Oct 29 06:52:10 HTML content woudl be
Oct 29 06:52:26 it'll drive me crazy have javascript not inside a js file Oct 29 06:52:30 but if it works awesome Oct 29 06:52:38 javascript would be document.getElementById("mycontent").innerHTML = yourvariable Oct 29 06:53:05 Ohhh ok Oct 29 06:53:22 standard javascript way should work for that Oct 29 07:08:37 Good morning Oct 29 07:11:04 hey good morning Oct 29 07:26:46 Morning Oct 29 07:40:22 <[AD]Turbo> yo all Oct 29 07:46:19 yo Oct 29 07:50:53 hey Oct 29 08:38:23 dtzWill how goes with the emulator? Oct 29 09:43:45 how does one detect a swipe across the screen in order to trigger a function Oct 29 09:43:58 ie swipe from right side of screen to left not on the gesture area Oct 29 09:44:19 How to detect swipe? Oct 29 09:44:31 yeah Oct 29 09:44:37 when you drag your finger across the screen Oct 29 09:44:44 i understand Oct 29 09:48:18 you shall use onFlick: function(event) {} Oct 29 09:48:56 Event has values and the value indecates what direction you vlick Oct 29 09:49:17 this.flickHandler = this.onFlick.bindAsEventListener(this); Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.window, Mojo.Event.flick, this.flickHandler, false); Oct 29 09:49:34 thanks Oct 29 09:51:55 np Oct 29 09:52:01 flick seems to be up and down only. with no way of telling direction of flick. I wonder if "forward" and "back" will work if it is assuming the other gesture area command Oct 29 09:52:13 **other than Oct 29 09:52:54 no that is not correct Oct 29 09:53:21 there is x and y Oct 29 09:53:43 and it has + and - values depending on direction Guest73875 Oct 29 09:54:01 Huh Oct 29 09:55:13 so where are you determining that information in your " Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.window, Mojo.Event.flick, this.flickHandler, false);" Oct 29 09:55:35 i am not Oct 29 09:55:45 that just the event listener Oct 29 09:56:02 onFlick: function(event) {} <-- Oct 29 09:56:11 event will have the value Oct 29 09:57:37 oh ok, nvm i see now Oct 29 09:57:52 this is what happens when I work on something until 5 am Oct 29 09:57:55 lol Oct 29 14:41:39 Proton SDK looks interesting Oct 29 14:42:39 what's that? Oct 29 14:42:56 http://www.codedojo.com/?p=845 Oct 29 14:44:29 nice, yet another ceoss platform solution for webos Oct 29 14:45:39 hopefully it's not just gameloft and EA that will be porting anymore Oct 29 14:49:41 I wonder how many people will keep porting now that the hot apps comp is over Oct 29 15:16:34 If an app is released for web, can it only be free? Oct 29 15:22:30 no, only apps in the beta feed have to be free Oct 29 15:23:06 ok Oct 29 15:23:09 webOS is leading that Sprint Poll.. 72% Oct 29 15:23:39 it was 80-something last night Oct 29 15:24:08 lol Oct 29 15:24:48 droid must be moving up Oct 29 15:26:24 yeah, it was 11%, webos was 84% at 995 votes last night Oct 29 15:26:51 and now droid is 26% at ~2200 votes Oct 29 15:27:03 2300 Oct 29 15:28:08 I like how Sprint's poll totals 101% Oct 29 15:28:23 I wonder if that's one of those easily pumped polls Oct 29 15:28:34 i like how you cannot ad Oct 29 15:28:43 25+72+1+2 = 100 Oct 29 15:29:25 mine was 26 72 1 2 Oct 29 15:29:33 its 26 71 1 2 now Oct 29 15:29:48 oh noes! Oct 29 15:30:54 Loudergood: I don't know, I think it has some twitter bias, but they should all be one per customer, I think Oct 29 15:31:12 it won't let me vote again Oct 29 15:31:58 it should be Oct 29 15:40:20 * jamesderektate wonders what HASN'T been made for iOS Oct 29 15:40:30 verizon pre plus with 2.0 Oct 29 15:40:36 somebody's going to get in trouble Oct 29 15:41:01 lol Oct 29 15:43:45 i was thinking the other day... Oct 29 15:43:52 what happens if mobile phones REMOVE the browser Oct 29 15:43:54 in place of apps Oct 29 15:44:34 hmm, and that's a Pre 2 on the right Oct 29 15:44:58 hi Oct 29 15:45:06 wutuuuuuuuuup Oct 29 15:45:22 hola Oct 29 15:45:38 la ola Oct 29 15:45:39 today is starting out to be sloowwwwww Oct 29 15:45:56 there's no one around, no students, lights are off. really weird Oct 29 15:46:29 make sure you are on the lookout for zombies Oct 29 15:47:15 shit, i forgot to bring a weapon to work today Oct 29 15:47:39 that reminds me Oct 29 15:48:13 http://www.geekologie.com/2010/09/09/zombie-apocalypse-weapons.jpg Oct 29 15:48:59 InteCom ITE-30SD digital phone Oct 29 15:49:13 how far to the left? Oct 29 15:49:25 i think it's supposed to be immediate, but within reaching distance is allowed Oct 29 15:49:31 great Oct 29 15:49:34 a tennis shoe Oct 29 15:50:27 i've got 4 freebie Microsoft pens, an 8 port HP ProCurve switch, stopwatch, half-full cherry coke, usb cd drive, legal pad and Lifetime Encyclopedia of Letters by Harold E. Meyer Oct 29 15:50:39 and a MacBook Pro magsafe power adapter Oct 29 15:51:19 oooh, if i'm allowed to go into my cabinet i've got a bottle of ethyl alcohol Oct 29 15:51:20 I'm sitting in basically an island in the middle of my living room Oct 29 15:51:26 a Palm Pre Plus... Oct 29 15:51:42 I could get over to the fireplace and have a poker or a brass andiron Oct 29 15:52:12 i think the scenario is a zombie just busted up out of the floor/wall in front of you Oct 29 15:52:14 there are a bunch of 4 foot long yagi antennas around here Oct 29 15:52:40 maik: then, I'm screwed...it's the laptop or the tennis shoe Oct 29 15:53:46 the tennis shoe Oct 29 15:53:50 i've got my awesome hands which are probably only slightly more lethal than those microsoft pens Oct 29 15:53:57 it will be count as chemical/biologicaol warfare Oct 29 15:54:35 haha Oct 29 15:54:57 I think I might need a eye-controlled window activation solution Oct 29 15:55:05 I should patend it Oct 29 15:55:15 patent it maybe Oct 29 15:55:30 except when you get something in your eye and you need to jump through a window to get out of your house but you've tripped the system Oct 29 15:55:52 I speak about windows on my desktop Oct 29 15:56:15 which stretches over 2 monitors Oct 29 15:56:26 er...oh. i thought we were still in zombie apocalypse mode Oct 29 15:56:45 and when I look left, I want to have the editor window active and on the right the chat window Oct 29 15:57:03 oh, Zombie mode? hm, I guess the chemical attack distinct them all Oct 29 15:57:03 Windows ? Oct 29 15:57:08 windows Oct 29 15:57:14 well yes, but are you using Windows? Oct 29 15:57:19 yes Oct 29 15:57:21 even this Oct 29 15:57:44 I would need a webcam and some software, hm Oct 29 15:57:55 look for a utility that allows you to use sloppy focus (i think TweakXP used to have an option for it) Oct 29 15:58:07 will still need to move the mouse Oct 29 15:58:13 somethign I want to avoid Oct 29 15:58:15 sure, but it's one step closer Oct 29 15:58:20 how about alt+tab? Oct 29 15:58:23 still not eye controlled Oct 29 15:58:46 that's just silly Oct 29 15:58:53 well, then I would have to browse through the thousands of browser etc windows Oct 29 15:59:13 WELL AREN'T YOU MISTER MALCONTENT!? Oct 29 15:59:24 silly android central Oct 29 16:00:57 http://www.precentral.net/webos-themes/webos-simplicity i really like that theme Oct 29 16:01:09 did u make it? Oct 29 16:01:15 maybe because it looks a bit like 2.0 Oct 29 16:01:15 nope Oct 29 16:03:57 http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1079 that's really nice to see Oct 29 16:04:06 there's probably some bias, but still Oct 29 16:04:21 how do u figure? Oct 29 16:04:22 http://www.androidcentral.com/call-arms-sprint-asks-their-customers-which-platform-they-should-focus Oct 29 16:05:27 the vast majority of the people who know about it are nerds Oct 29 16:05:40 the only people who are going to vote are nerds who really care about their device of choice Oct 29 16:06:09 so, while granted we're awesome, Sprint probably knows that their sampling method is biased Oct 29 16:06:17 though i'm sure it's still a great indicator Oct 29 16:06:43 does sprint even sell pre/pixi still? Oct 29 16:07:20 yes Oct 29 16:09:41 why the hell isn't sprint's main site over SSL? Oct 29 16:10:03 you have to go out of your way to find a secure page, and even then i'm not convinced my login details are sent over HTTPS Oct 29 16:10:18 why isnt most sites you send passworded info and such over SSL? lol Oct 29 16:11:45 it's not like it's a lot of work to get that set up Oct 29 16:11:52 well some i could see as not needing to spend the money on a cert or technology and i use an insecure password because i really don't care about the content. but if i have to login to the website of someone i pay for service, especially a critical service like phone, better make damn sure my shit is secure Oct 29 16:12:36 they better* Oct 29 16:19:20 :/ Oct 29 16:28:25 chuqui: ping Oct 29 16:28:40 sugardave: pong (but I'm in a meeting) Oct 29 16:28:54 chuqui: okay, will pm you, respond at leisure Oct 29 16:29:49 lol Oct 29 16:45:47 sugardave: going to make it to nyc? Oct 29 16:46:00 lead on sprint is closing Oct 29 16:50:28 lead on sprint? Oct 29 16:50:34 oh, that poll Oct 29 16:50:48 yes Oct 29 17:00:55 happy holloween Oct 29 17:01:14 not yet! Oct 29 17:11:48 Codeslaw, =( Oct 29 17:13:36 so what is everyone working on? Oct 29 17:13:47 eatin lunch Oct 29 17:14:07 which I forgot to bring, so I'm drinkin a cherry pepsi instead Oct 29 17:14:23 that sucks Oct 29 17:14:27 gotta remember your lunch Oct 29 17:14:29 indeed Oct 29 17:14:53 in the webos world I'm working on an OpenGL app, so that's fun Oct 29 17:15:16 nice Oct 29 17:15:59 yes, pain in the ass to write, makes my IRC client seem simple Oct 29 17:16:12 you made an irc client? Oct 29 17:16:23 yeah, ptpChat for PalmOS Oct 29 17:16:29 ah Oct 29 17:16:41 * oilsworkn googles :) Oct 29 17:16:47 I left the WebOS version to you since it was far superior Oct 29 17:17:22 it was the only PalmOS IRC client that could connect to multiple servers and run in the background Oct 29 17:17:25 i was just about to make some snide comment about how wIRC was lame and that i'd try ptpChat Oct 29 17:17:33 we're always looking for more things to add to it though if you have any thoughts Oct 29 17:17:43 as someone who has previously made a mobile irc client Oct 29 17:17:56 working on a local app for finding tacobell and chipotle Oct 29 17:17:57 an option for tabs to keep everything in one window Oct 29 17:18:04 oilsworkn: psychic link, perhaps? Oct 29 17:18:20 ptpChat had xchat-esque tabs with color notifications Oct 29 17:18:31 phil_bw: yeah, i got something like that on the drawing board Oct 29 17:18:45 nice, lemme know if you need any testing Oct 29 17:18:51 mmm, taco bell Oct 29 17:19:00 I know the irc protocol well and could help debug Oct 29 17:19:32 well if you ever feel like submitting patches, the wirc redmine has a bunch of stuff on it Oct 29 17:20:25 okee, not much time these days, but eventually I probably will Oct 29 17:20:25 ive recently been thinking about rewriting palms list widget Oct 29 17:20:39 to allow me to change the button labels on swipe-to-delete Oct 29 17:20:52 so when you swipe a channel, it would say "part" instead Oct 29 17:20:54 :) Oct 29 17:21:33 that pdk competition... Oct 29 17:21:42 i think is a good example that there is money in more things than iphone Oct 29 17:22:26 oilsworkin: you can't do that with css? Oct 29 17:22:56 not that i know Oct 29 17:23:07 the template the widget uses is like
Delete I see, I suck at webos programming, been focusing on more C++ these days Oct 29 17:23:51 there is more to webos then just js/css/html Oct 29 17:24:07 most of the apps i work on, js is only a portion Oct 29 17:24:19 wrote a great little game using straight SDL then realized the other mobile platforms don't really support SDL... so I'm switching all gfx to OpenGL... sux Oct 29 17:24:28 ah Oct 29 17:24:30 yeah Oct 29 17:24:50 OpenGL ES 2.0 = pain in the ass Oct 29 17:25:08 can't convince my projection to change for anything Oct 29 17:26:47 *sigh* oh well Oct 29 17:26:56 you got anything else fun in the works? Oct 29 17:26:58 yeah, i dont know anything about opengl or sdl Oct 29 17:26:59 lol Oct 29 17:28:16 eh Oct 29 17:28:25 always moving forward on all the current apps Oct 29 17:28:35 we made a "show properties" app a while ago Oct 29 17:28:49 which we're going to expand to show the tokens needed for a comswap Oct 29 17:28:58 to make that easier Oct 29 17:29:14 oh nice Oct 29 17:29:42 you're the king of hybrid apps these days huh Oct 29 17:29:53 lol Oct 29 17:29:59 service requests are simple :) Oct 29 17:30:31 never dealt with them Oct 29 17:30:38 I'm drawin triangles :P Oct 29 17:30:45 though, plugin hybrids are better Oct 29 17:31:02 since you can do synchronous requests Oct 29 17:31:15 nesting async service requests makes my head hurt sometimes Oct 29 17:31:28 you lookin forward to 2.0 from a programmers standpoint? Oct 29 17:31:57 i haven't looked at node or the other new stuff at all Oct 29 17:32:20 though at some point ill have to, lol Oct 29 17:33:02 I see Oct 29 17:33:05 all i know is, wirc + stacks = awesome :) Oct 29 17:33:21 its like they were meant to be together, haha Oct 29 17:33:27 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Fortune-Verizon-iPhone-Confirmed-111154 Oct 29 17:33:45 I thought that, but I'd still probably like tabs better, not having to minimize to switch chans Oct 29 17:33:59 wirc is free? Oct 29 17:34:03 yes Oct 29 17:34:05 homebrew app? Oct 29 17:34:11 for the time being Oct 29 17:34:15 ok, so i can get it on preware? Oct 29 17:34:39 we've been trying to catalog it and charge a little for it, but plugin hybrid bugs have gotten in the way Oct 29 17:34:41 amazing how the times have changed. I charged $12 for my IRC client and it was a bargain... Oct 29 17:34:55 hopefully 2.0 will bring plugin hybrids to the masses Oct 29 17:35:02 jamesderektate: yeah, its in preware Oct 29 17:35:05 ok cool Oct 29 17:35:11 though, if you have a pixi, you can only get the service hybrid old version Oct 29 17:35:13 homebrew has a lot of cool apps Oct 29 17:35:19 reminds me of the ti-89 apps... Oct 29 17:35:20 all free Oct 29 17:35:33 it seems to me that, after looking at android, prices for MOST apps converge to free? Oct 29 17:35:51 oil: I could port wirc to OpenGL and make it available now :P Oct 29 17:35:58 see Oct 29 17:35:59 its crazy how much piracy is on android app marketplace Oct 29 17:36:06 imagine 3DIRC Oct 29 17:36:06 the problem with pdk apps Oct 29 17:36:09 is the gui Oct 29 17:36:15 doesn't "feel" webos-ey Oct 29 17:36:25 they all do their own thing which doesn't feel like it fits Oct 29 17:36:42 hybrids are the holy grail Oct 29 17:36:47 yeah, it's all gotta be grown from the ground up Oct 29 17:37:04 hybrids are great if you don't need cross platform Oct 29 17:37:15 right Oct 29 17:37:16 which i dont Oct 29 17:37:22 because i only have a pre :) Oct 29 17:39:41 well gotta go Oct 29 17:39:43 later Oct 29 17:39:47 see ya Oct 29 17:47:18 argh, want 2.0 :( Oct 29 17:48:13 my last day at work =) Oct 29 17:48:15 ur mom wants 2.0 Oct 29 17:49:55 nyceane: what you doing after? Oct 29 17:49:58 retired? Oct 29 17:50:24 his mom probably does want 2.0 Oct 29 17:51:28 i'd say that's likely Oct 29 17:51:34 though she doesn't care for smartphones Oct 29 17:53:23 she wants stacks and exhibition Oct 29 17:53:38 yes, i had to look up how to spell exhibition, totally not spelt how i thought Oct 29 17:55:36 jamesderektate, vegas and become a full time professional poker player Oct 29 17:56:07 haha Oct 29 18:06:40 nice Oct 29 18:06:56 looks like itunes removed app ratings Oct 29 18:08:31 really? Oct 29 18:09:19 ah yea, it's on some news sites Oct 29 18:09:25 maybe bug, who knows Oct 29 18:09:35 http://www.bing.com/search?q=itunes+app+reviews Oct 29 18:09:53 bing is getting better than google Oct 29 18:10:47 is it? Oct 29 18:11:32 yea, i think so Oct 29 18:11:50 * oilsworkn doesnt' foresee himself saying "oh, just bing it" Oct 29 18:11:56 Google it with Bing! Oct 29 18:12:05 that's a pretty bold statement. fortunately everyone's entitled to their opinion Oct 29 18:12:09 even though they're wrong Oct 29 18:12:24 let me bing that for you luckily already exists Oct 29 18:12:46 lol Oct 29 18:12:56 does it redirect to google? :) Oct 29 18:14:54 Osama? Really? Oct 29 18:15:04 yep Oct 29 18:15:20 how are you ? Oct 29 18:15:22 UAE? Oct 29 18:15:31 yep Oct 29 18:15:35 dubai> Oct 29 18:15:45 Abu dahbi Oct 29 18:15:46 mmmmmm now abu dhabi Oct 29 18:15:54 how are you ? Oct 29 18:15:57 take e11? Oct 29 18:16:21 sheik zayed road? Oct 29 18:16:34 aha nice Oct 29 18:17:10 i have a Q can i ? Oct 29 18:17:33 shoot Oct 29 18:18:10 aha language file in game where can i find ? Oct 29 18:18:20 like Need for speed Oct 29 18:18:38 or Monopoly Oct 29 18:18:43 any idia ? Oct 29 18:19:07 i dont know how localization is handled for pdk apps Oct 29 18:19:08 becouz i need to translted to Arabic if you can Oct 29 18:19:25 i dont know if its a standard setup like sdk apps Oct 29 18:19:33 aha Oct 29 18:19:57 maybe someone with pdk knowledge can speak up Oct 29 18:20:58 i exstra the ipk file by 7zip Oct 29 18:21:44 and i have all file exsta i look for language file but not find Oct 29 18:21:49 umm, this is falling into the grey area Oct 29 18:23:05 aha Oct 29 18:23:37 gonna have an nes bashhh Oct 29 18:23:45 maniac mansion and friday the 13th on tap for tonight Oct 29 18:25:51 haeffb! Oct 29 18:28:24 ouch Oct 29 18:31:43 lol Oct 29 18:33:11 dohtem... Oct 29 18:33:29 heh Oct 29 18:33:35 ok thanks for help Oct 29 18:33:45 good bay :) Oct 29 18:33:52 bye Oct 29 18:33:54 good luck Oct 29 18:34:04 :/ Oct 29 18:34:06 NOTIFY THE CIA! Oct 29 18:34:09 :) Oct 29 18:34:34 osama is a pretty popular name Oct 29 18:34:36 lol Oct 29 18:34:36 * haeffb_pre travelling Oct 29 18:36:54 travelling where? Oct 29 18:38:37 oh, got a call while on wirc, lol Oct 29 18:39:13 ah Oct 29 18:40:00 http://www.youngandreckless.com/index.php?c=blog&s=more&id=1141 Oct 29 18:40:07 extreme unicycling... Oct 29 18:40:30 travelling in & out of service Oct 29 18:40:41 road trip? Oct 29 18:41:55 sort of Oct 29 18:48:01 2 yo Robocop for halloween - http://www.sweet-juniper.com/2010/10/part-kid-part-machine-all-cop.html Oct 29 18:50:05 ahah Oct 29 18:50:19 so many "awww" pics Oct 29 18:50:59 * oilsworkn was a ninja turtle for halloween as a kid Oct 29 18:52:07 heh Oct 29 18:53:13 Donatello was always the coolest Oct 29 18:53:20 lol Oct 29 18:53:44 he is the coolest in video games because the bow-staff has the longest reach :) Oct 29 18:54:06 and he was geeky in the movies Oct 29 18:54:17 yeah Oct 29 18:54:39 that makes me want to watch the live-action movies again Oct 29 18:54:48 though, that would require me finding a vhs player somewhere Oct 29 18:55:29 the 2nd movie is stil lthe best Oct 29 18:55:40 plus Vanilla Ice had a cameo! Oct 29 18:55:50 "Go ninja, go ninja, go!" Oct 29 18:56:00 lol Oct 29 18:56:08 the shredder battle Oct 29 18:56:26 yeah Oct 29 18:56:33 on the docks or something Oct 29 18:56:49 now I gotta go find that movie Oct 29 18:56:55 then the ooze got on him and he became super shredder Oct 29 18:57:57 what, they're making another live-action turtle movie? Oct 29 18:58:09 for 2011 Oct 29 18:58:10 lol Oct 29 18:59:00 really? Oct 29 18:59:15 i didnt see the last one yet. Oct 29 18:59:18 2007 iirc Oct 29 18:59:24 eh, the cg one Oct 29 18:59:30 not as good as live action Oct 29 19:00:19 Michaelangelo is a party dude! Oct 29 19:00:29 olol Oct 29 19:00:36 ok, time to go to lunch Oct 29 19:00:37 * oilsworkn bbl Oct 29 19:00:45 bye Oct 29 19:01:32 heh Oct 29 19:32:29 evening Oct 29 19:32:51 hi Oct 29 19:33:13 hi swisstomcat, MetaView Oct 29 19:33:25 hi mr. kirker Oct 29 19:33:31 what's new? Oct 29 19:35:43 I write a new game Oct 29 19:40:09 hey sugardave it seems you started a trend, and so far everyone that wasnt able to go is now going Oct 29 19:40:21 scratch that Oct 29 19:40:28 im reading an old article ;p Oct 29 19:43:57 out of the 3,148 votes, 2015 are for webOS Oct 29 19:54:20 wish i could go too Oct 29 19:56:47 I hope they do a European one too Oct 29 19:57:35 yeah, that'd be cool Oct 29 19:57:40 i coulda prolly fanagled tix thru work to fly out, but i already have people coming from out of state to stay for that weekend Oct 29 19:58:03 last year i could have prolly fanagled tix thru work to fly out, but i was out of state visiting people that weekend =( Oct 29 21:07:44 argg... why would javascript/palm's code interpret the correct order to be: 1, 10, 11, 12, 2, 3, 4? Oct 29 21:08:11 shh channel is sleeping! Oct 29 21:08:20 * Tibfib bangs pots Oct 29 21:08:21 lol, anyways Oct 29 21:08:35 looks like an alpha sort instead of a numeric Oct 29 21:08:40 Tibfib: that's alphabetical Oct 29 21:08:49 hmmm Oct 29 21:08:54 * Tibfib doesn't control the sort Oct 29 21:09:02 hm Oct 29 21:09:04 maybe you SHOULD Oct 29 21:09:12 or, be sure to parseInt() them Oct 29 21:09:16 ls will give you the same results Oct 29 21:09:30 oilsworkn: I don't control the sort. Oct 29 21:09:43 palm does. Oct 29 21:09:47 * Tibfib files bug. Oct 29 21:09:57 * oilsworkn doesn't know whats being sorted Oct 29 21:09:57 What do you mean that you dont control the sort? Oct 29 21:10:10 Could you explain more about what you are trying to do? Oct 29 21:10:17 no. I can't. Oct 29 21:10:21 LOL Oct 29 21:10:32 oh Oct 29 21:10:37 * oilsworkn guesses NDA Oct 29 21:11:02 if "Palm" gives you back 1, 10, 11, 12, 2, 3, 4, then why don't you sort it yourself? Oct 29 21:11:10 not that simple. Oct 29 21:11:24 well. it is. BUT it shouldn't work like that is the point Oct 29 21:11:30 lol Oct 29 21:11:51 such cryptic questions and responses Oct 29 21:12:02 * Tibfib hates ndas Oct 29 21:12:11 Strings are supposed to sort the way you have listed Oct 29 21:12:15 Thats not a bug Oct 29 21:12:20 they shouldn't be strings... Oct 29 21:12:25 lol Oct 29 21:13:14 I shouldn't have missed all those lotto numbers last week Oct 29 21:13:42 guess numbers better! Oct 29 21:13:58 Palm should have given me better numbers Oct 29 21:16:33 * oilsworkn makes lotto number picker app Oct 29 21:28:40 anyone in here know about some collision detection? Oct 29 21:31:45 dont crash? Oct 29 21:32:58 I want to say yes but I havent looked at that stuff since my old graphics programming class Oct 29 21:33:49 my problem is that i have no idea how to detect from one rect which side collided with another rect Oct 29 21:35:00 you might look into com.graphic.faq Oct 29 21:35:13 intersection between 2 rectangles Oct 29 21:35:22 polygons Oct 29 21:36:42 any tutorials on that? Oct 29 21:40:28 google for the com.graphics.faq Oct 29 21:40:37 is a newsgroup from the old days... Oct 29 21:40:44 I'm off now, g'night Oct 29 21:42:41 thanks... this is some hard stuff Oct 29 21:58:23 if i want to use a named function as a call back, is there a way to pass parameters to it or do i need to put it inside of an anonymous function? Oct 29 22:00:19 so you do like function.bind(this) Oct 29 22:00:35 putting it inside an anonymous function is the only thing that seemed to work for me too Oct 29 22:00:36 you can do function.bind(this, 'foo') Oct 29 22:00:51 and function(foo){ foo == 'foo' } Oct 29 22:01:08 ok Oct 29 22:01:13 but... Oct 29 22:01:14 for callbacks Oct 29 22:01:23 * halfhalo runs Oct 29 22:01:30 it would normally be like function(payload, foo) Oct 29 22:01:38 where payload becomes what is returned to the function Oct 29 22:02:57 if you need an example, i can find one in govnah or prewares source Oct 29 22:04:05 i think i'll just use an anonymous function since that seems more widely used and understandable Oct 29 22:04:22 myFunction.bind(this, args) ? Oct 29 22:04:35 haeffb_pre: yeah Oct 29 22:08:25 oh, in govnah, it seems to be using bindAsEventListener for its service request callbacks instead of just bind Oct 29 22:08:29 though i dont know the difference Oct 29 22:08:44 this.getParamsHandler.bindAsEventListener(this, 1); Oct 29 22:08:57 yes, that is how you do it Oct 29 22:09:00 getParamsHandler = function(payload, num) Oct 29 22:12:39 what is payload? Oct 29 22:12:58 oh, bindAsEventListener always returns event as the first param Oct 29 22:12:58 whatever the async function is returning Oct 29 22:13:07 howdy Oct 29 22:13:09 yeah Oct 29 22:13:15 hi LoneStar99 Oct 29 22:13:29 payload becomes the response from the service request i make Oct 29 22:14:36 * haeffb would need to see an example Oct 29 22:14:57 how is everyone doing? Oct 29 22:15:06 not bad Oct 29 22:15:32 meh. Oct 29 22:15:44 it's the weekend! Oct 29 22:15:50 same here, but can't do any webos development for atleast 2-3weeks Oct 29 22:15:52 =( Oct 29 22:16:11 why not? Oct 29 22:16:11 tired Oct 29 22:16:18 why not_? Oct 29 22:16:31 haeffb: http://webos101.com/Concepts#Using_Callbacks_Effectively Oct 29 22:16:32 haeffb: i would link you to where i copied that from in govnah, but the code around it is crazy Oct 29 22:16:56 and it works the same with bindAsEventListener Oct 29 22:16:58 so behind in some web projects, that if start messing with webos, will not work on anything else... Oct 29 22:17:09 and the whole reason for the num field, is because its like 5 or 6 nested async service requests Oct 29 22:17:22 sooo all palm images are free to use? Oct 29 22:17:29 funfunfun.. Oct 29 22:18:22 so france already has the palm pre 2? Oct 29 22:18:28 yep Oct 29 22:18:30 * oilsworkn hates them Oct 29 22:18:33 heh Oct 29 22:18:37 lol Oct 29 22:18:46 lets change the name of french toast/frys Oct 29 22:18:53 do we have to start saying "freedom fries" and "freedom toast" again? Oct 29 22:18:57 lol Oct 29 22:18:58 haha Oct 29 22:19:01 lol Oct 29 22:19:02 I never stopped! Oct 29 22:19:03 hater toast Oct 29 22:19:09 heh Oct 29 22:19:14 lucky bastard frys Oct 29 22:19:16 and freedom kiss Oct 29 22:19:38 so right now if I was in france I can physically get a palm pre 2? Oct 29 22:19:39 lol Oct 29 22:19:43 yes Oct 29 22:19:46 i think its only web-orders Oct 29 22:19:48 yea Oct 29 22:19:52 wow, cool Oct 29 22:19:57 so, you can physically have one delivered Oct 29 22:20:00 anyone seen one live? Oct 29 22:20:01 lol Oct 29 22:20:06 * oilsworkn hasnt Oct 29 22:20:10 Pre 2 is a myth! Oct 29 22:20:19 though, i just imagine my pre has rugged edges and a glass screen Oct 29 22:20:19 here is how I've handled passing arguments to callback functions: http://webos.pastebin.com/t6E0JLRr Oct 29 22:20:40 I've seen a picture of a Pre 2 next to a Pre + and both are running 2.0 Oct 29 22:20:45 LoneStar99: some where on hand at the Engadget meetup in NYC a few weeks back Oct 29 22:20:49 is the glass screen really a plus? Oct 29 22:20:58 I'd think it be heavier Oct 29 22:21:28 how strange, i keep getting: Uncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'bind' Oct 29 22:21:34 why i try it Oct 29 22:21:46 what is the object you're trying to bind? Oct 29 22:22:02 the callback function Oct 29 22:22:04 Objects don't have a bind method Oct 29 22:22:13 is your callback function a function? Oct 29 22:22:19 if i do function () { callback(); }.bind(this) it works Oct 29 22:22:28 yes Oct 29 22:22:29 sugardave: your examples don't pass args into the callback Oct 29 22:22:41 kindof Oct 29 22:23:06 yes the callback is a function Oct 29 22:23:12 * haeffb can't remember what typeOf(myFunction) returns... ? Oct 29 22:23:19 function Oct 29 22:23:30 so, his function is not a function, then Oct 29 22:24:20 haeffb: in checkStaleness I explicitly pass the response to the passed in callback Oct 29 22:24:22 is your problem with calling the callback function you've passed? Oct 29 22:24:48 oh wait Oct 29 22:24:50 nevermind Oct 29 22:24:50 oh huh Oct 29 22:25:14 * oilsworkn is a little lost now Oct 29 22:25:55 maik: pastebin? Oct 29 22:26:09 i think i was getting confused as to what was what at which point Oct 29 22:26:32 heh - http://twitpic.com/31zebo Oct 29 22:26:33 there's lots of passing callbacks, so at the point i saw the error the initial callback function was an object and not a function Oct 29 22:26:39 does that make any sense or am i not understanding? Oct 29 22:27:12 it should always be a function.... :s Oct 29 22:27:23 dohtem: ok, cool, i enrolled in pre 2 dev program, wonder how much the dev device will be.... Oct 29 22:27:34 maik: pastebin :) Oct 29 22:27:42 pre 2 dev program? Oct 29 22:28:00 i can't in its current state, NDA is still in force, ya? Oct 29 22:28:02 dohtem: email list to be informed when it's available for dev purchase program Oct 29 22:28:12 :/ Oct 29 22:28:16 oh, didnt know about that Oct 29 22:28:27 front page developer.palm.com Oct 29 22:28:44 * oilsworkn doesnt know if nda is still in force, though thinking it is is probably the best bet Oct 29 22:28:54 I bet it is Oct 29 22:29:04 since we haven't heard anything about 2.0 doctors Oct 29 22:29:08 let me write up the skeleton, just a sec Oct 29 22:29:09 you all think more than $300? Oct 29 22:29:16 oilsworkn: I think it is Oct 29 22:29:53 feels like I'm emailing pdc@palm.com every week Oct 29 22:30:51 * haeffb doesn't even know if there is an NDA, much less whether such a hypothetical NDA would still be in force if it existed. Or something. Oct 29 22:31:37 wonder if a frenchmen with a pre 2 would be under NDA? Oct 29 22:31:55 the first rule of nda is you dont talk about nda? Oct 29 22:32:00 no, but they wouldn't be able to do much without novaterm Oct 29 22:32:38 LoneStar99: a regular user that never got into the early device program shouldnt. Oct 29 22:33:24 I'm happy to speculate what it means that there is an obviously non-French keyboard Pre 2 and a Verizon Pre + with 2.0 on them...somebody got 2.0 on that Pre + somehow Oct 29 22:33:34 sounds like the fight club lol Oct 29 22:34:14 * oilsworkn doesnt speculate for fear of lawyers Oct 29 22:34:23 lol Oct 29 22:35:33 I think it means "soon" may be sooner than we think Oct 29 22:35:52 but we'll see...I bet it comes while I'm out of the country next week :D Oct 29 22:35:55 bad sugardave, bad. http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9104 Oct 29 22:36:03 * oilsworkn hopes it comes to sprint eventually Oct 29 22:36:04 i can't post my thing to pastebin...it's giving me a server error Oct 29 22:36:11 well glad "codeslaw" got a price for "songwave" Oct 29 22:36:25 haeffb: enda started it :P Oct 29 22:36:34 sugardave: you going out of the country? Oct 29 22:36:44 LoneStar99: yeah, Chile Oct 29 22:36:52 Santiago Oct 29 22:36:52 wow, awesome, vacation? Oct 29 22:36:56 no, RealJob Oct 29 22:37:13 do go in any mines! Oct 29 22:37:14 never been to chile, but hear it is really nice Oct 29 22:37:17 dont* Oct 29 22:37:24 yeah, no mine tours :D Oct 29 22:37:48 hi JenP! Oct 29 22:37:50 beat you! Oct 29 22:37:51 hi all! Oct 29 22:37:56 lol yes you did Oct 29 22:38:07 what, with a bat? Oct 29 22:38:14 nasa had sent some engineers to aid in excavating the minerss Oct 29 22:38:14 nerf Oct 29 22:38:14 sugardave: for how long Oct 29 22:38:58 dohtem: I leave SUnday night and get there Monday morning...then leave Friday night and back here Saturday Oct 29 22:39:07 then devdays Oct 29 22:39:11 yay! Oct 29 22:39:12 no. how long you beating JenP with a nerf bat? Oct 29 22:39:16 haha Oct 29 22:39:32 developer abuse! Oct 29 22:39:39 lol Oct 29 22:39:50 who is going to help people in #webos when sugardave is trapped in a chilean mine? Oct 29 22:39:59 Query failure: Table './pastebin/pastebin' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed Oct 29 22:40:02 it's all on you guys Oct 29 22:40:02 :(( Oct 29 22:40:16 * oilsworkn will /nick sugardave and see if anyone notices Oct 29 22:40:16 maik: pastie.org Oct 29 22:40:23 lol Oct 29 22:40:44 sugardave: you going 2 dev days? Oct 29 22:40:44 http://pastie.org/1259088 Oct 29 22:41:09 of course something's wrong there, functions aren't being called Oct 29 22:41:24 hm Oct 29 22:41:24 LoneStar99: yeah, I'm going :D Oct 29 22:41:27 onSuccess(); Oct 29 22:42:01 right Oct 29 22:42:11 maik: you are passing an object Oct 29 22:42:15 instead of 2 functions Oct 29 22:42:18 yeah Oct 29 22:42:19 that, too Oct 29 22:42:20 lol Oct 29 22:42:27 my first 2 color decal Oct 29 22:42:28 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs942.snc4/73509_1600293321093_1048858191_1738685_4040580_n.jpg Oct 29 22:43:10 sugardave: that is awesome, still working on it, if i go will make plans last minute Oct 29 22:43:22 dawm_: cool, so do you have to cut two pieces of vinyl for that, or does the cutter merge multiple colors? Oct 29 22:43:38 cut 2 pieces.. Oct 29 22:43:44 not fun Oct 29 22:43:56 lol Oct 29 22:44:03 maik: this.init(param1, param2, this.initSuccess.bind(this), Oct 29 22:44:03 this.initFailure.bind(this) Oct 29 22:44:03 ); Oct 29 22:44:04 and since i didnt know what all i needed to buy, i got paper tape instead of clear tape.. so i cant see thru :P Oct 29 22:44:19 dawm_: ah, learning :D Oct 29 22:44:30 i have to line 2 diamonds up and its a pita doing it without being able to see thru Oct 29 22:44:33 haeffb: there is other problems then that Oct 29 22:44:37 oh yeah.. weeding is sooo annoying Oct 29 22:44:43 thats where you remove all the excess Oct 29 22:44:45 yeah, but that's a start Oct 29 22:45:28 but im starting to get the hang of things, by the 5th decal i had a pretty good system going ;p Oct 29 22:45:57 http://pastie.org/1259103 Oct 29 22:46:00 haeffb: the way i have it should work fine, shouldn't it? Oct 29 22:46:16 maik: you are passing an object Oct 29 22:46:37 { Oct 29 22:46:37 'onSuccess': this.initSuccess.bind(this), Oct 29 22:46:37 'onFailure': this.initFailure.bind(this) Oct 29 22:46:37 } Oct 29 22:46:41 that is one parameter Oct 29 22:46:43 yeah Oct 29 22:46:43 oh, narf Oct 29 22:46:47 maik: you want to pass those functions as individual args Oct 29 22:46:54 or read them as an object Oct 29 22:47:05 i get it Oct 29 22:47:08 param3.onSuccess Oct 29 22:47:09 yeah Oct 29 22:47:14 param3.onFailure Oct 29 22:47:17 same thing in init() Oct 29 22:47:20 yeah Oct 29 22:47:24 when you call checkFoo Oct 29 22:47:24 yeah Oct 29 22:47:36 * oilsworkn keeps saying "yeah" Oct 29 22:47:41 lol Oct 29 22:47:54 * haeffb beats JenP with a nerf bat Oct 29 22:48:05 (sugardave was getting tired) Oct 29 22:48:10 heh Oct 29 22:48:34 lol Oct 29 22:49:19 * oilsworkn doesn't beat women... Oct 29 22:49:35 lol Oct 29 22:50:48 we're still not convinced JenP is female. Oct 29 22:50:49 especially those who write docs for lumberjack :) Oct 29 22:51:01 especially since he/she won't go to dev day Oct 29 22:51:09 lol Oct 29 22:51:19 yeah, I've never seen chuqui or JenP in the same room at the same time.... Oct 29 22:51:22 hmm.... Oct 29 22:51:24 see! Oct 29 22:51:25 smiles...if i could go i would...but i can't...so the fantasy will have to live on Oct 29 22:51:28 LOL Oct 29 22:52:08 so you guys getting excited? Oct 29 22:52:09 so i was under the impression (and obviously not thinking clearly) that enclosing function parameters in { } and naming them would set the function's parameters appropriately, not that it would pass like any other JS enclosed in { } Oct 29 22:52:16 what about... video chat Oct 29 22:52:34 maik: inclosing it in {} turned it into an object Oct 29 22:52:42 yep Oct 29 22:53:51 * haeffb going out to enjoy the remains of the day. later Oct 29 22:55:48 lates haeffb Oct 29 22:57:12 so if i want to use that method i could include a callbacks option and do callback.onSuccess and callback.onFailure Oct 29 22:59:44 maik: you got it Oct 29 23:03:18 sweet, i just threw the [NDA REDACTION] into its own file and added it to sources and it works Oct 29 23:07:54 LAX to NYC roundtrip is only $270 as of a few days ago Oct 29 23:09:29 but it turns out i may be in the east coast, around dev days, so might be very possible Oct 29 23:16:37 weak Oct 29 23:16:52 i see no webos inspired costumes in the hpalm halloween pictures on facebook Oct 29 23:18:23 they showed up a lot later .. you know - slow boot times :( Oct 29 23:27:58 dawm_: what is the link to the pics? Oct 29 23:28:20 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=295522&id=32915930478 Oct 29 23:30:22 ok thnaks Oct 29 23:30:29 will check them out Oct 29 23:31:59 dawm_: you are right, not very impressed by customes Oct 29 23:32:18 some palm pre or webos custom would have been killer Oct 29 23:37:21 how would a pre costume work? Oct 29 23:38:06 just have an oreo with that says palm instead of oreo Oct 29 23:39:21 dohtem: one can be made, without to much work, cardboard box, paint, and more paint Oct 29 23:40:04 let me rephrase that. do you really want to be a palm pre for halloween? Oct 29 23:42:02 dohtem: oh well, not me, but maybe someone would Oct 29 23:42:12 i do not dress up for halloween Oct 29 23:42:22 "I feel sad for you that you're dressed up as that phone" Oct 29 23:44:29 sugardave: lol Oct 29 23:44:36 haha Oct 29 23:44:50 not me, but i would dress up like a pre, if I was gonna dress up Oct 29 23:44:51 wasnt that dawm_ and the walmart guy Oct 29 23:44:59 :P Oct 30 00:31:39 yay! Dish and Fox reaxh an ageeement Oct 30 00:33:44 man.. cutting alot takes alot.. cutting out 30 stickers to toss up on ebay so i can buy another color or vinyl ;P Oct 30 00:33:54 its so noisy Oct 30 00:46:05 dawm_: Im very curious, what are you going to do with all those decals/stickers ? Oct 30 01:17:11 ebay em Oct 30 01:17:36 which reminds me i need to see if i can cut small enough to cover up the palm logo on the back of the pre/pixi Oct 30 01:18:30 interesting, theres twitter for facebook? Oct 30 01:18:58 twitterface? Oct 30 01:19:04 http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=2231777543#!/apps/application.php?id=2231777543&v=info Oct 30 01:20:55 dawm_ hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 30 02:59:57 2010