**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 03 02:59:57 2010 Nov 03 02:59:59 * halfhalo has never had his linode go down Nov 03 03:00:06 dana kirkpatrick is hot tho. where else should i host? Nov 03 03:00:20 heh Nov 03 03:00:49 does your hosting provided have hot chicks in leather as spokemen? Nov 03 03:01:13 that's clearly the most important criterion Nov 03 03:01:54 no, but it is in my data matrix for selection ;) Nov 03 03:03:23 domin atrix Nov 03 03:04:57 haeffb: you got two parts to "hosting" Nov 03 03:05:17 Hosting and Ho sting Nov 03 03:05:32 great slogan for godaddy Nov 03 03:05:39 we put the ho in hosting Nov 03 03:05:40 yes, the domain is registered thru 2019 thru networks solutions. Nov 03 03:05:54 but I need to change where it points at Nov 03 03:05:58 right Nov 03 03:06:04 so u really just need to change the dns Nov 03 03:06:14 no the registrar Nov 03 03:06:29 and I just tell network solutions where I want the dns to be... ? Nov 03 03:07:17 that takes longer Nov 03 03:07:25 where is the DNS? Nov 03 03:07:36 is that NS too? Nov 03 03:08:49 uh. Nov 03 03:08:53 now? Nov 03 03:09:13 yes. Nov 03 03:10:06 whois mydomain.com Nov 03 03:10:16 will list DNS entries Nov 03 03:10:30 if you can manage those DNS's just do that Nov 03 03:11:04 make sense ? Nov 03 03:11:32 YNS1.YAHOO.COM Nov 03 03:12:19 do you have an account that you can manage those DNS's ? Nov 03 03:12:36 to change what ip they give out for www.mydomain.com ? Nov 03 03:12:43 at network solutions? not sure, checking on that. Nov 03 03:12:54 no Nov 03 03:12:59 at yahoo? Nov 03 03:13:02 yes Nov 03 03:14:03 Use A and CNAME records to manipulate host names. Nov 03 03:15:06 huh ? Nov 03 03:15:25 so I can change the A record to point to another IP address Nov 03 03:15:29 rather than yahoo's server Nov 03 03:15:49 right.. www.mydomain.com point to yahoo's stuff now Nov 03 03:16:04 thats the parts u want to change Nov 03 03:16:05 yes, and I can change that. but then I'm still going thru yahoo... ? Nov 03 03:16:17 for dns Nov 03 03:16:32 network solutions is your registrar Nov 03 03:16:46 they tell the world to ask the yahoo dns Nov 03 03:16:53 for where to find www.mydomain.com Nov 03 03:16:59 but I don't wan to have to keep paying yahoo... Nov 03 03:17:11 www.mydomain.com is HOsted at justwhatever.. Nov 03 03:17:19 justhost? Nov 03 03:17:21 HO HO HO Nov 03 03:17:31 justHO HO HOst Nov 03 03:17:33 59 more days Nov 03 03:17:54 are you ditching the yahoo services/account also? Nov 03 03:18:29 yeah, I think so. Nov 03 03:18:43 ok Nov 03 03:19:05 well , change the dns at yahoo first to the new web server Nov 03 03:19:19 then change the registrar Nov 03 03:19:32 don't want to change the registrar, though Nov 03 03:19:46 cuz it's paid up thru 2019. Nov 03 03:19:51 well, change the registrars entry for what dns host to ask Nov 03 03:20:09 right. tell ns that I want to use sluthost's DNS Nov 03 03:20:15 yes Nov 03 03:20:20 er...godaddy...er...justhost Nov 03 03:20:25 who ever Nov 03 03:20:31 people should port other people's web apps to webos Nov 03 03:20:53 then have to tell justhost DNS where I want mydomain.com to point. Nov 03 03:21:30 that should be easy enough Nov 03 03:22:34 if you dont mind the downtime Nov 03 03:22:50 you can just do step 3 and forget the rest Nov 03 03:23:56 how much downtime? Nov 03 03:24:08 just change the network solutions part to the justhost dns's Nov 03 03:24:16 For a ds change? Nov 03 03:24:22 Depends Nov 03 03:24:22 justhost should have that somewhere in their help section Nov 03 03:24:53 At most 24 hrs for everything to propogate, but if you don't take the old site down peeps won't notice Nov 03 03:25:05 ns1.pipedns.com Nov 03 03:26:35 need 2 Nov 03 03:28:37 http://help.justhost.com/questions/196/Can+I+transfer+an+existing+domain+to+my+Just+Host+account%3F Nov 03 03:28:45 ns1, ns2, ns3 Nov 03 03:28:54 that should be what I need to do... Nov 03 03:29:20 yeah Nov 03 03:29:58 tell network solutions those are your dns servers Nov 03 03:30:13 now gotta figure out what the network solutions login info is... :) Nov 03 03:31:31 is it your domain? Nov 03 03:31:50 like , a email you use? Nov 03 03:37:38 I'm in. Nov 03 03:38:13 our plan to take over the world is almost complete Nov 03 03:38:58 whoa. domain expires in 2030. Nov 03 03:39:10 that might be long enough. Nov 03 03:45:30 http://youknowwhatscool.com/ Nov 03 03:45:39 worlds ends in 2012 anyway, you got screwed Nov 03 03:47:32 what if there's internet in the afterlife? didn't think of that, didja? Nov 03 03:47:58 calendar ends buddy. thats all they wrote.. 2012 Nov 03 03:49:08 more correctly, that's when the 5th age of man ends... :p Nov 03 03:50:27 what if they just ran out of paper? Nov 03 03:50:40 they ran out of zero's Nov 03 03:50:41 or papyrus or whatever the mayans wrote on? Nov 03 03:51:01 they wrote on rocks :T Nov 03 03:51:28 i think it was string and knots wasnt it? Nov 03 03:52:06 watching boner get all choked up on cnn Nov 03 03:52:29 boehner, sorry Nov 03 03:53:04 yes we can? Nov 03 03:53:15 the calendar rounds were documented on stone, daily average counts were done with whatever they had handy Nov 03 03:54:04 and they invented bobsleds too right? Nov 03 03:54:23 and astronauts and uh Nov 03 03:54:34 speaking of which, how is luge a sport? Nov 03 03:54:35 probably tortillas too Nov 03 03:54:47 sit on a sled, go downhill. duh. Nov 03 03:55:07 luge? how about poker on espn Nov 03 03:55:10 how is poker a sport? Nov 03 03:55:38 yeah, but luge. really? luge. Nov 03 03:56:20 oh, and yes you can get the orange + number keys or whatever Nov 03 04:01:25 internic.net Nov 03 04:09:19 proposition 19 lagging - in cali... Nov 03 04:09:28 =( Nov 03 04:10:00 at least meg whitman is getting crushed =) Nov 03 04:10:49 you're not looking at the bigger picture Nov 03 04:10:54 house went republican Nov 03 04:10:59 democrats got crushed Nov 03 04:11:35 * rwhitby tunes out of some election or something somewhere or other in the world Nov 03 04:11:52 at least when i go back to cali, will not have meg whitman as governor Nov 03 04:12:08 no more governator Nov 03 04:12:17 nope Nov 03 04:13:47 not even sure where i was suppose to vote, texas or cali... oh well next time Nov 03 04:13:53 * rsanchez1 wonders how anyone could be worse than governator Nov 03 04:14:04 heh Nov 03 04:14:23 LoneStar99: you didn't vote? Nov 03 04:14:27 he needs to go find gray davis and apologize for all that shit he talked Nov 03 04:15:13 rwhitby: nope, been in mexico for a week plus Nov 03 04:15:35 you don't have postal or advance voting? Nov 03 04:16:13 rwhitby: yeah but not sure where i was legible to vote, texas or cali Nov 03 04:17:03 was to busy leaving texas, going back to cali, but anyways, will not be back in cali until after the holidays Nov 03 04:17:26 you are already back in texas? Nov 03 04:17:40 nope, in mexico right now Nov 03 04:17:47 not going back to texas Nov 03 04:17:51 oh mexico Nov 03 04:18:03 rocky point? Nov 03 04:18:30 manzanillio mx Nov 03 04:18:57 on the pacific ocean, but about 3,000 miles from san diego Nov 03 04:19:10 here visiting family for a few months Nov 03 04:19:26 then sunny san diego bound again Nov 03 04:20:13 sweet. i'd love to go back to mx Nov 03 04:20:40 anyplace nearer the equator at this point would be fine with me Nov 03 04:20:48 Bmyers: lol Nov 03 04:20:55 it is pretty warm here Nov 03 04:21:12 used to live in old mexico Nov 03 04:21:19 so i am used to it Nov 03 04:21:26 old mexico? new mexico? Nov 03 04:21:47 no, old mexico... arizona Nov 03 04:22:12 new mexico, old mexico, and still mexico. there's the 3 Nov 03 04:22:33 oh, never been to "old mexico" --> only phoenix and scottsdale Nov 03 04:22:52 snottsdale Nov 03 04:23:08 where the beautiful ppl live Nov 03 04:23:12 lol Nov 03 04:23:24 i was an east valley boy Nov 03 04:23:31 mesa tempe chandler Nov 03 04:23:44 my ex girlfriend used to like in 15,000 some road in scottsdale Nov 03 04:24:01 first time i ever saw a 5 digit address Nov 03 04:24:17 thats cause roads run str8 from one mountain to the other Nov 03 04:24:21 no turns Nov 03 04:24:23 oh Nov 03 04:24:31 40 miles of str8 street Nov 03 04:24:40 yeah rather hilly in them parts Nov 03 04:24:41 and ppl STILL crash into each other Nov 03 04:24:58 weird Nov 03 04:25:43 ok brb in 10 minutes Nov 03 04:36:14 alright chat later gonna play some age of empires 3 Nov 03 05:48:15 woo! we talkin politics or what? Nov 03 05:48:17 lol Nov 03 05:51:53 california is madness today Nov 03 05:51:55 *sigh* Nov 03 05:52:09 i'm happy with my playstation and coffee tonight Nov 03 05:52:51 I'm happy with this webOS 2.0.0 doctor ;) Nov 03 05:54:39 I sure hope 2.0 lands soon for the older devices... Cough Pixi Cough ;P Nov 03 05:59:36 random thoughts.. storage d? and usd and usf in etc seem to be about talking to devices.. /etc/openal would seem to indicate the OpenAL audio framework -- new? Nov 03 06:00:14 a lot of config files seem to have lots of test statements in them, including /etc/pmwsf (wireless system framework maybe?) Nov 03 06:07:13 SineOt: yeah Nov 03 06:07:21 so, my wife dropped her pixi Nov 03 06:07:32 off a 4 story building Nov 03 06:07:34 no joke Nov 03 06:07:46 4-5 floors of freefall onto tile Nov 03 06:07:50 poor palm pixi Nov 03 06:08:16 what happened to it? Nov 03 06:08:32 screen cracked Nov 03 06:08:36 that's it. Nov 03 06:08:50 you can use the touchscreen if you know where things 'should' appear Nov 03 06:08:57 and can make calls with the keyboard Nov 03 06:09:10 and receive calls if you know where the answer button should be Nov 03 06:09:21 hooked it up to USB and got her data off Nov 03 06:09:29 absolutely everything works on it except for the LCD Nov 03 06:09:31 crazy Nov 03 06:09:45 that's pretty awesome Nov 03 06:16:37 pandora--: I have a pixi where the LCD is fine, but the touchscreen is cracked and stuffed Nov 03 06:34:46 Is it possible to get into the EAP without having app in the catalog? Nov 03 06:35:02 I think so Nov 03 06:35:33 <3 -webkit-border-radius Nov 03 07:11:35 morning Nov 03 07:13:26 Morning Nov 03 07:46:13 good morning Nov 03 07:46:22 Morning Nov 03 07:46:24 rwhitby busy man with docot i see :D Nov 03 07:54:07 teemu how going? Nov 03 07:58:52 Very well, thank you. And you? Nov 03 08:05:51 also here Nov 03 08:05:58 Are you comming to nyc? Nov 03 08:07:16 No :( Nov 03 08:07:35 Too expensive for me. No sponsor, no travel. Nov 03 08:08:43 :) i have no sponsor either :s Nov 03 08:09:11 Then you're richer than I. Or not married. Nov 03 08:09:25 I am not morried :P Nov 03 08:09:28 married Nov 03 08:09:58 Right, there you go. Nov 03 08:10:07 I am -> no money Nov 03 08:10:08 hehehe Nov 03 08:10:26 also the money i have earned on my apps are paying for the travel Nov 03 08:10:39 You can try to imagine: "honey, I'd like to go to NYC to see other geeks" Nov 03 08:10:40 i save all my money from the apps for things like that Nov 03 08:10:50 You have great apps, then.. Nov 03 08:11:07 My girlfriend was not super happy Nov 03 08:11:50 She would like to come to, but i have convinced her that it is very importent to go for my education ;) Nov 03 08:11:59 hah! Nov 03 08:12:05 Liar.. Nov 03 08:12:13 i know i know Nov 03 08:12:49 But i was in USA with her this summer, this time i would like to go with a friend and maybe go out a little more ;) Nov 03 08:13:47 Pay my travel expenses and I'll be your friend there :) Nov 03 08:14:04 what is the flight for you? Nov 03 08:14:15 I can be your friend now, too, if you want :) Nov 03 08:14:30 mine was ~670$ Nov 03 08:14:40 What dates? Nov 03 08:14:49 tuesday to sunday Nov 03 08:14:51 Did you buy it with dollars or euros? Nov 03 08:14:57 16-21 Nov 03 08:14:57 Exact dates Nov 03 08:15:01 Thanks Nov 03 08:15:13 but i think it cost more now when we are closed Nov 03 08:15:18 i payed in danish kroner Nov 03 08:15:55 You are flying on the 16th? Nov 03 08:16:03 yer Nov 03 08:18:19 Yeah, it's super expensive compared to yours: around $700. I think I'd get permission to go if it should cost half of that. Like $280 to $300. Nov 03 08:19:04 :) Nov 03 08:19:13 Super expensive.. gah. $40 or so Nov 03 08:19:27 its also a little longer travel ;) Nov 03 08:19:35 A bit Nov 03 08:19:48 But i can hear that it is good i do i know when i am not married yet ;) Nov 03 08:29:29 <[AD]Turbo> yo Nov 03 08:29:46 morning hotdp Nov 03 08:29:51 yo Nov 03 08:29:54 hi Nov 03 08:30:03 Morning swisstomcat long time no see Nov 03 08:30:10 yeah, i've been busy Nov 03 08:30:16 I would have used your Ubuntu help but you where not here :P Nov 03 08:30:22 Mr linux ;) Nov 03 08:30:25 sorry Nov 03 08:48:55 I could not install sdk for ubuntu 10 Nov 03 08:49:02 do you use ubuntu swisstomcat? Nov 03 08:49:16 yeah Nov 03 08:51:13 how did you install? Nov 03 08:51:20 i followed the directions Nov 03 08:51:23 the palm hp only gave commands for 9 and 8 Nov 03 08:52:03 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&layout=page&id=1585&Itemid=55 Nov 03 08:52:07 I have SDK on 10.10 running just fine Nov 03 08:53:23 so you run deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jaunty non-free ? Nov 03 08:53:26 from terminal? Nov 03 09:00:57 Actually I installed it from Ubuntu's repo, as it was newest.. Nov 03 09:01:31 no, it says "Update the Package Repository Information to /etc/apt/sources.list:" Nov 03 09:01:38 so, you have to edit the file Nov 03 09:01:42 with nano or gedit Nov 03 09:08:37 bbl Nov 03 09:10:11 way to hard dont understand anything about that stuff Nov 03 09:15:35 hey guys ... some of pdf files are not able to view my palm pre? what could be cause? Nov 03 09:16:25 dunno Nov 03 09:17:44 i could view them o my machine using firefox .. but can't on palm pre ... don't known what's happening ... strange!!! Nov 03 09:18:18 Is it all? Nov 03 09:19:57 yea Nov 03 09:21:20 thats strange Nov 03 09:21:30 so you not see ANY Pdf documents? Nov 03 09:22:15 nope :( Nov 03 09:22:29 it showing a failed error Nov 03 09:22:33 Do you have Pre or Pre Plus? Nov 03 09:22:43 i have Pre Nov 03 09:22:52 I wonder if it's memory running out.. Nov 03 09:23:01 Is it a big PDF? Nov 03 09:23:10 Does it contain pictures? Nov 03 09:23:30 no .. it's small around 900KB .. yea i contains Nov 03 09:23:52 yer mine struggle with pdf sometimes it is like nothing happens and then mins later it will open Nov 03 09:23:57 you have restarted? Nov 03 09:24:29 hmmm ... need to restart device? Nov 03 09:26:42 Yer Nov 03 09:26:46 that might help Nov 03 09:27:32 ok .. let me try Nov 03 10:00:48 raghuk how did it go ? Nov 03 12:37:52 rehi Nov 03 12:58:24 hotdp: it still the same .. i ran out of idea .. even palm emulator not able to download pdf files Nov 03 13:06:10 hm ok Nov 03 13:06:22 i dont know if the emulator can open pdf Nov 03 13:06:32 rehi swisstomcat working today? Nov 03 13:06:42 yeah, a bit Nov 03 13:06:48 (photography work) Nov 03 13:07:01 I have just talked to my boss about the next project Nov 03 13:07:06 foriPad Nov 03 13:07:22 gonna make it in phonegap :D Nov 03 13:12:46 hotdp: very cool Nov 03 13:13:00 hope so :D Nov 03 13:13:06 Now i have to prove i can do it Nov 03 13:14:23 what kind of project? Nov 03 13:14:49 Its for a "company" that sells "products" Nov 03 13:14:59 so i have to show product and information Nov 03 13:15:09 and it shall be very fast and nice looking Nov 03 13:15:17 So need alot of offline content! Nov 03 13:15:23 sounds interesting Nov 03 13:16:42 lol swisstomcat boy or girl? Nov 03 13:16:48 boy Nov 03 13:17:42 and you ahve? Nov 03 13:17:45 have* Nov 03 13:21:22 swisstomcat do you know if there is db to use for phonegap or what people use to store alot of informatino Nov 03 13:21:33 we have a boy already Nov 03 13:21:49 phonegap is just the hardware abstraction layer Nov 03 13:21:53 no db or gui stuff Nov 03 13:22:08 you could use lawnchair.js or any other stuff Nov 03 13:23:28 I know, there is no logic Nov 03 13:23:40 what would you store? Nov 03 13:24:04 But maybe they had a api to use for ipads database or something Nov 03 13:24:14 maybe 20.000 products with information Nov 03 13:25:05 what format? Nov 03 13:26:08 I would like to have something like sql Nov 03 13:26:11 ms sql Nov 03 13:26:36 so you would have both local and remote storage? Nov 03 13:26:50 if i have 20.000 products in a JSON file i guess it would be kind of large en slow Nov 03 13:26:54 YEs Nov 03 13:27:14 remote is the newest and then sometime sync the data down so it works offline Nov 03 13:27:21 yeah Nov 03 13:27:29 that seems like a good idea Nov 03 13:27:37 what? Nov 03 13:27:48 the sync with remote Nov 03 13:27:53 yer Nov 03 13:28:02 have a webservice that speaks json Nov 03 13:28:05 so i ask have to "store" this information localy :D Nov 03 13:28:14 yer that was what i thought Nov 03 13:29:33 start coding Nov 03 13:29:39 try out different things Nov 03 13:30:28 http://www.aaroncoleman.net/post/2010/09/28/Converting-a-web-app-to-an-iPad-iPhone-app-using-PhoneGap.aspx Nov 03 13:51:49 swisstomcat good matrix! Nov 03 13:53:04 i have to restart my palm pre plus every few days because stuff just stops working, txt messages only come in when i unlock the phone and go to my messages page, typing a character sometimes makes it type about 20 times, so l is llllllllllllllllllllllllllll, and an app will load, and then not populate at all, just a blank page Nov 03 13:53:28 hmm Nov 03 13:53:33 time for a doctor visit? Nov 03 13:53:33 i don't have any patches but i've got devmode turned on Nov 03 13:53:55 and when i restart everything runs fine for close to a week Nov 03 13:54:18 * hotdp thinks its tim e for Palm Pre Plus to visit the doctor Nov 03 13:54:53 hmm Nov 03 13:54:59 i'll have to wait till i get home then Nov 03 13:55:08 i don't have a usb cable for it at work Nov 03 13:58:27 :/ Nov 03 13:59:14 what happens if you run in dev mode all the time? Nov 03 13:59:56 ? Nov 03 14:00:02 The phone will explode :D Nov 03 14:02:23 nothing happens .. until you find out :D Nov 03 14:02:31 :D Nov 03 14:03:37 that aliens have invaded your phone Nov 03 14:14:08 editing 9 pictures at once .. memory usage: 2.1GB of 8GB Nov 03 14:17:40 large images i guess D: Nov 03 14:57:57 man Nov 03 14:58:01 I dunno about that glass on the pre 2 Nov 03 14:59:46 isn't that a gorilla glass ? also used on iphone 4 Nov 03 15:01:09 yeah, so i've read Nov 03 15:06:06 yes it is confirmed! Nov 03 15:10:54 * halfhalo is happy that whitman is not the new california govnah Nov 03 15:11:22 141 million dollars later.... Nov 03 15:11:32 yup Nov 03 15:13:21 so disappointed with the voters in the US, very short term memory indeed. Can't say much about the missing fourth estate Nov 03 15:14:03 * infiniteloop back to webos :) Nov 03 15:14:18 lol... webos.... Nov 03 15:14:50 * halfhalo wiped his epic last night and the experience made him miss the [relative] ease at which metadoctor was used Nov 03 15:17:45 * hotdp dont understand why people blame barack obama for not fixing EVERYTHING in 2 years. Nov 03 15:18:48 * halfhalo doesn't Nov 03 15:20:09 * hotdp blames oil Nov 03 15:22:07 Welcome sugardave! Nov 03 15:22:17 hi hi Nov 03 15:22:38 figured I'd try out the webchat, since IBM Chile is blocking EVERYTHING but web (and that's through a proxy, to boot) Nov 03 15:23:07 * halfhalo has a webchat he uses off his own server thats shinierish Nov 03 15:23:42 It has.... backend issues Nov 03 15:23:53 IE one person can use it at a time it looks like Nov 03 15:24:32 node? Nov 03 15:24:47 nah, its a ruby thing I found on github Nov 03 15:24:57 ah Nov 03 15:25:21 this one isn't too bad, I think...but I use irssi, so it's pretty shiny :D Nov 03 15:25:26 but it also is not blocked by anything :p Nov 03 15:29:30 morning sugardave, halfhalo Nov 03 15:29:35 monring Nov 03 15:30:47 morning Nov 03 15:31:35 it's actuall lunchtime in cool and breezy Santiago, Chile and my class is getting hungry....bbl Nov 03 15:31:48 why the hell are you there... Nov 03 15:32:12 * hotdp will bbl Nov 03 15:35:20 chile? Nov 03 16:14:44 morning chuqui Nov 03 16:15:15 morning! Nov 03 16:15:42 its to early for morning.... graghahadshj Nov 03 16:15:50 * halfhalo goes to sleeps under desk Nov 03 16:27:09 * halfhalo managed to forget how to do an else if in ruby just now... Nov 03 16:41:42 ruby killed digg! Nov 03 16:41:54 * maik is fixing/optimizing Emergency Lights Nov 03 16:42:04 apparently debugging on an overclocked device isnt' a good idea :) Nov 03 16:42:16 heh Nov 03 16:43:10 dohtem: I thought digg commited hara-kiri Nov 03 16:43:28 whatever they did, it sure worked Nov 03 17:06:01 anyone know if checking for (x < 0) is less taxing than (x <= 0) ? Nov 03 17:10:10 maik: they should be the same. x<=0 == x<-1. And if there IS a difference, its so miniscule its not worth it Nov 03 17:11:44 hmm, so the processor, in (x <= y) would y-- first and then (x < y) Nov 03 17:12:35 Thats how I would do it Nov 03 17:18:50 * pandora-- waves Nov 03 17:18:55 * pandora-- is rocking santa monica today Nov 03 17:49:41 * sugardave_ is in Chile because that's where his RealJob wanted him to go train some business partners. Nov 03 17:50:51 hola sugardave como esta chile? Nov 03 17:51:14 cold today, actually Nov 03 17:51:18 hot yesterday Nov 03 17:51:29 what city santiago? Nov 03 17:51:36 yep Nov 03 17:52:10 when did u arrive? Nov 03 17:52:48 I flew out Sunday night and got here Monday morning, class started yesterday and I'm flying back home Friday night/Saturday morning Nov 03 17:53:13 sugardave_: that sounds pretty cool Nov 03 17:53:29 sugardave: wow awesome did u fly AA? Nov 03 17:54:06 LoneStar99: yeah, AA...every damn flight out doesn't leave until 10 PM :) Nov 03 17:54:20 pandora--: it's pretty cool, though there is a lot more litter here Nov 03 17:57:15 sugardave_: yeah same here in MX, litter on beaches etc... Nov 03 17:58:33 66F in santiago, right now, Nov 03 18:18:59 * oil is excited for devdays Nov 03 18:22:56 liar Nov 03 18:23:34 you're a towel Nov 03 18:23:52 that is always a possibility Nov 03 18:24:04 can you tell me if you all see anything http://rgvplats.com Nov 03 18:24:22 * oil sees nothing Nov 03 18:25:14 facebook is having a live event http://apps.facebook.com/facebooklive/ Nov 03 18:25:27 oil: do you get a browser error? Nov 03 18:27:03 yes Nov 03 18:27:14 "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to rgvplats.com" Nov 03 18:31:31 oil: yeah i think the VPS got deleted, now need to reconfigure all settings =( Nov 03 19:12:23 has anyone experienced javascript getting really really freaky when doing math on floating numbers? Nov 03 19:14:15 i've got a loop that counts down from 1.0 to 0.0 by 0.2. it goes 1.0, 0.8, 0.6000000000000001, 0.4000000000000001, 0.20000000000000007, 5.551115123125783e-17 Nov 03 19:18:34 well just got a year credit from my hosting company =) $240 Nov 03 19:22:55 Hmm... Do we have a good webkit resource Nov 03 19:23:10 apple? Nov 03 19:28:21 snapple Nov 03 19:28:35 * swisstomcat likes snapple Nov 03 19:29:14 have not had a snapple in years Nov 03 19:29:25 does preware have a channel? Nov 03 19:29:29 but they are good ice cold Nov 03 19:29:42 preware has every channel! Nov 03 19:29:43 draeath_phone: #webos-internals, basically Nov 03 19:29:47 ty Nov 03 19:30:19 geat, now i gotta go over there when he asks his question Nov 03 19:30:25 he could have just asked it here xD Nov 03 19:31:18 oil: I blame you Nov 03 19:31:21 damnet Nov 03 19:32:46 oh, his problem is not with preware itself Nov 03 19:32:54 * oil leaves it for the server guys to answer Nov 03 19:35:03 graaaaaaaa Nov 03 19:35:06 * maik kills something Nov 03 19:46:30 since it's been so long since I added my own app to the catalog, when do they usually update the sales reports for the previous month? Nov 03 19:46:57 lol Nov 03 19:48:24 it takes a few days Nov 03 19:53:32 sugardave: what are you other apps , just curious ? Nov 03 20:06:34 i don't think i got paid last month Nov 03 20:06:35 hrm Nov 03 20:06:39 i know i have sales though Nov 03 20:06:47 <$100 maybe? Nov 03 20:11:10 aw weak i only made like $40 last month Nov 03 20:11:19 eh $50 Nov 03 20:11:23 d'awww Nov 03 20:11:40 what ad networks do you use on webOS ? Nov 03 20:11:44 admobs ? Nov 03 20:11:56 ihate411 is selling way better than my other two apps combined Nov 03 20:14:49 sugardave_: a few days into the month. prob tomorrow or friday Nov 03 20:17:45 infiniteloop: which of my apps do you already know? :D Nov 03 20:17:46 haeffb_pre: grassy-ass Nov 03 20:18:30 sugardave_: sorry Im not familiar with any, me being a newbie and all Nov 03 20:21:09 infiniteloop: well, we'll go in chronological order (which also happens to be a timeline of watching sugardave learn how to write javascript): Mind Master, Yule Log, BOFH Excuse Generator, iHaveSpirit Beta, and Scan Do! Nov 03 20:21:32 sugardave_: you are a prolific app creator!! Nov 03 20:21:40 or something Nov 03 20:22:13 I also have written 4-5 apps for other people as a freelancer Nov 03 20:22:42 * infiniteloop hides in a corner Nov 03 20:22:48 yule log should count at LEAST twice. Nov 03 20:22:53 heh Nov 03 20:23:08 I need to convert this video into a .gif for the update Nov 03 20:23:12 it's that time of year Nov 03 20:24:15 or figure out how to make the video loop...I've been procrastinating, though Nov 03 20:25:10 yule log, lol Nov 03 20:25:21 hi Nov 03 20:25:25 it's the greatest holiday fireplace app on webOS, bar none Nov 03 20:25:30 in attempting to optimize Emergency Lights i've ended up stumbling across 2 different strobe patterns and i'm not really sure what to do with them Nov 03 20:26:11 i don't have any more room on the screen for UI elements, and it never was the intention to allow people to select a strobe pattern Nov 03 20:26:32 but now i don't want to go changing to the pattern that i like if it's going to piss people off Nov 03 20:26:38 on screen tap, pop up a list selector (make it an easter egg or something :) Nov 03 20:26:38 shake for strobe? Nov 03 20:27:04 throw phone out of a window for the epileptic seizure special? Nov 03 20:27:08 screen tap is how you get the UI elements to come up, it's a full screen app otherwise Nov 03 20:27:09 heh Nov 03 20:27:44 two-finger tap :D Nov 03 20:27:52 heh Nov 03 20:28:06 oooo, pinch/zoom to change strobe patterns Nov 03 20:28:08 i think i just need some testers to tell me which they like better Nov 03 20:28:20 hmmm Nov 03 20:28:20 oh, but you'd need an image for that, nevermind Nov 03 20:28:27 i could actually use that to...oh Nov 03 20:28:48 i was thinking i could use that to adjust the speed and get rid of the slider, then put a pattern selection thing in its place Nov 03 20:29:02 yay I get to order a new work pc. Nov 03 20:29:19 ugh, ok, who wants to test 3 different packages? Nov 03 20:29:27 lol Nov 03 20:32:47 hmm Nov 03 20:32:50 * oil <3 -webkit-border-radius Nov 03 20:32:53 http://developer.palm.com/ is the hp webos logo new? Nov 03 20:33:10 new as of a couple of weeks ago? Nov 03 20:33:35 it all changed when it all got hp branding Nov 03 20:34:03 sugardave_: want to test? Nov 03 20:37:08 sorry Nov 03 20:37:15 i only saw the blue hp logo Nov 03 20:37:19 not the hp webos logo Nov 03 20:42:05 has anyone used the Flot js plotting lib on a WebOS app yet? Nov 03 20:44:39 maik: sorry, can't Nov 03 20:48:33 buh Nov 03 21:04:59 good night Nov 03 21:07:38 I came home from work to find this.. Nov 03 21:07:39 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1135.snc4/149728_1607390538519_1048858191_1756092_4844912_n.jpg Nov 03 21:07:45 it was not like that this morning Nov 03 21:07:59 my ginko tree dropped half its leaves all at once Nov 03 21:08:25 something must've frightened it Nov 03 21:08:49 and its not like there was a storm or it was windy today either, its been pretty nice out aside from cold Nov 03 21:09:37 I haven't had leaves on my trees for about 3 weeks now Nov 03 21:13:35 there's still more yellow leaves on the tree too Nov 03 21:29:10 anyone have any experience getting jquery-mobile working in a webos app? Nov 03 21:29:33 Ah! Cool, I didn't know about this. Anyone do mobile webdev in here? I've normally just been hanging out in #mobile-webdev Nov 03 21:29:40 * MatthewG will hang here Nov 03 21:29:42 thanks anuaimi ! Nov 03 21:41:17 MatthewG: what do you mean? Nov 03 21:41:57 maik: nevermind, I'm guessing people don't do mobile website dev here Nov 03 21:42:17 oh, ya. this is for HP/Palm's webOS platform Nov 03 21:42:24 my bad :) Nov 03 21:42:26 using their SDK Nov 03 21:42:29 it's all good Nov 03 21:42:30 yeah Nov 03 21:42:33 gotcha, thanks! Nov 03 21:42:54 but it's irc, anything goes :) Nov 03 21:43:06 if no one is using jquery-mobile, is anyone using sensa touch to take make a webos app that can be ported other platforms? Nov 03 21:43:06 truth Nov 03 21:43:27 anuaimi: i've never heard of either of those, so i won't be much help Nov 03 21:43:51 I have a webos app that I've created. I'd like to see if I can port it also to android and blackberry Nov 03 21:44:33 one of the issues is that widgets in webos are not available on other platforms. so I need to replace them Nov 03 21:44:35 is that like PhoneGap? Nov 03 21:44:42 yes Nov 03 21:45:37 anuaimi: /join #jquery Nov 03 21:45:46 I believe phonegap is a packaging solution. it takes your html, css, and & js and creates a native app on another platform (using the built-in webkit browser) Nov 03 21:45:51 rehi Nov 03 21:46:01 hello swisstomcat Nov 03 21:46:02 I'm on that but no one has any webos experience. Nov 03 21:46:05 oh Nov 03 21:46:38 phonegap is "just" the hardware abstraction layer and packaging, it doesn't deal with the gui Nov 03 21:46:42 since palm/hp was sponsering jquery-mobile, I hoped someone where would have some experience Nov 03 21:47:02 jquery mobile doesn't work outside of the browser at the moment, i've tried Nov 03 21:47:05 swisstomcat: agreed. that's why I'm looking for a library that works on webos as well as other platforms Nov 03 21:47:16 they're working on it tho Nov 03 21:47:29 what do you mean 'out of the browser'? Nov 03 21:47:52 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9591 Nov 03 21:47:58 as a replacement for mojo Nov 03 21:49:21 thanks for that link. Nov 03 21:52:04 has anyone try pulling data from Google Fusion tables from an app? Nov 03 22:04:33 goodn8 everyone Nov 03 22:22:08 Is the music player style progress bar not a widget? Nov 04 00:01:25 Did you know that Chuck Norris can gargle peanut butter? Nov 04 00:06:56 he can gargle peanut brittle Nov 04 00:25:17 dawm_: nice, chuck is the man Nov 04 00:26:03 http://content.scaryideas.com/i/2958.jpg Nov 04 00:34:41 did you know that Chuck Norris alter ego is chuqui ? Nov 04 00:36:24 wonder if chuqui sports the "action jeans" at Palm? Nov 04 00:40:58 explains the beard Nov 04 01:13:35 anyone here tried the spotify app? Nov 04 01:23:52 yay, I'm back@ Nov 04 01:24:12 is spotify available in US? Nov 04 01:26:00 Anyone know of a way to call a fn after coming back from a scene? Basically capturing a back gesture without using the activate fn? Nov 04 01:28:28 no not available in US Nov 04 01:28:50 I just wanted to know how it is that they accomplish offline songs without exposing their songs Nov 04 01:32:55 why not use activate() ? Nov 04 01:33:11 I mean, that IS the way... Nov 04 01:35:16 For some reason if I do, during first use of the app, it ends up pushing the prefs scene twice, which in turn causes problems there Nov 04 01:38:42 I've found something on Mojo.Event.Back But scarce references and I can't get it to work Nov 04 01:40:55 do you want to run a function after one particular scene is popped, or a bunch of scenes? Nov 04 01:42:21 Yes, but more specifically to call a fn which pulls everything from its database in order to update a list Nov 04 01:43:00 For example, if I delete items from the db in the prefs scene and come back to the main, I need it to reload the list Nov 04 01:43:25 yeah, so you need to use activate() Nov 04 01:43:45 so, the real question is what is causing the problem during first use of the app? Nov 04 01:45:22 I believe its caused by the itemsCallback method because if I don't the main scene load the db on activate, it doesn't cause the problem Nov 04 01:46:19 When the problem does happen, it pushes the prefs scene twice, and on the second push, it only renders the html Nov 04 01:47:02 hi all! Nov 04 01:47:46 are you pushing prefs scene in activate? Nov 04 01:47:57 hi jenp Nov 04 01:48:07 hi haeffb! Nov 04 01:49:41 No, I'm calling a fn which opens the db and select all, on success, it calls a fn which creates the list, if it fails, I.e., no items saved or first use, then it calls the prefs scene Nov 04 01:49:46 hows trix? Nov 04 01:50:18 good! how are you? Nov 04 01:50:30 old, tired, slow. Nov 04 01:50:39 lol Nov 04 01:50:40 * haeffb played bball tonight Nov 04 01:50:50 can't keep up with the kids anymore Nov 04 01:50:57 you know haeffb you excersize more then some 20 year olds Nov 04 01:51:53 hmmmm.... Nov 04 01:52:11 what does itemsCallback do? Nov 04 01:52:30 is spotify a hybrid app?? Nov 04 01:53:07 JenP: I have to. I eat pizza and drink beer. Nov 04 01:53:10 Its a fn for lists to call if it contains more than 50 items, otherwise you get a bunch of weird artifacts, empty list itmes Nov 04 01:53:19 lol Nov 04 01:53:32 I should be exercising.... :| Nov 04 01:53:43 exercise is for chumps Nov 04 01:53:58 do i need to use a modelChange method for a button to be disabled? Nov 04 01:54:06 sorry, I know what itemsCallback is for. What does your particular itemsCallback do? Nov 04 01:54:16 or can i just disabled = true Nov 04 01:55:05 you will have to set your model.disabled = true and call modelChanged() Nov 04 01:55:27 kk Nov 04 01:55:34 i think i was calling modelChange too soon Nov 04 01:56:04 and/or not putting a d on the end. Nov 04 01:56:26 oh duh...thanks Nov 04 01:56:48 It calls the same process during scroll to not only keep the list intact but also in case an item is deleted Nov 04 01:57:59 morning Nov 04 01:58:10 $L('evening'); Nov 04 01:58:19 hi rod! Nov 04 01:58:35 haeffb: nice Nov 04 01:58:50 hey JenP Nov 04 01:59:11 truthfully, I stole that from bmyers Nov 04 01:59:15 lol Nov 04 01:59:24 but it may be my only slide at dev day Nov 04 01:59:30 $L("Greetings"); Nov 04 02:00:13 oh, don't remind me about slides. I have to have mine done by Tuesday, and I've only done 7 slides so far Nov 04 02:00:38 and now they tell me I need to fill a hour :) Nov 04 02:00:40 * haeffb will procrastinate until Lisa sends me a "gentle reminder" Nov 04 02:01:22 * oil just hopes the last slide doesnt say "blame oil for the lack of slides" Nov 04 02:01:42 rwhitby: it's arguably possible to fill an hour with 7 slides :) Nov 04 02:02:16 just bring a couple pics of the outback and tell koala stories for an hour. Nov 04 02:02:58 I mean, how likely was it that Palm was ever going to invite you back anyhow? Nov 04 02:03:51 "I'd like to tell you all about webosinternals, but first look at this cute fuzzy little bear." Nov 04 02:04:02 lol Nov 04 02:04:47 http://www.kadaitcha.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dropbear1.jpg Nov 04 02:05:01 haha Nov 04 02:05:18 * oil doesn't want to cuddle that Nov 04 02:05:19 sorry. "ferocious cute fuzzy little bear" Nov 04 02:06:01 * haeffb didn't know eucalyptus leaves had hooves. Nov 04 02:06:13 only in .au Nov 04 02:06:16 not anywhere else Nov 04 02:08:49 projectAlarum: I think you need to reconsider what's happening in itemsCallback. Or possibly use a cookie or something for firstUse and not rely on the db failure to push prefs. Nov 04 02:09:02 they probably love rwhitby for keeping the power users happy with webos internals Nov 04 02:09:02 haeffb: a close up: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/lillyclave/180px-Dropbear.jpg Nov 04 02:10:23 bah. wikipedia to the rescue. "A drop bear (or dropbear) is a fictitious Australian marsupial." Nov 04 02:11:01 besides, "walking through the bush carrying a screwdriver raised above one's head will impale an attacking drop bear." Nov 04 02:11:10 Yeah I did just that with a cookie and its working Nov 04 02:11:36 heh. Glad to be able to tell you to try what you're already doing. Nov 04 02:12:26 * haeffb wonders if you can take a screwdriver in carryon luggage or will TSA confiscate it Nov 04 02:12:31 drop bear... sounds like pedobear Nov 04 02:12:50 haeffb: they'll probably take it Nov 04 02:13:34 * haeffb makes note to make screwdriver purchase first item on todo list after arriving in Australia Nov 04 02:14:37 Eh its all good, I do appreciate the help though Nov 04 02:14:47 haeffb: wikipedia. psh. get the real info: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Drop_Bear Nov 04 02:16:18 wait, I didn't realize the ssh server/client was named after a something(even if that something is fictitious) Nov 04 02:16:58 wtf, how is this a drop bear: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Suicidal_Drop_Bear.JPG Nov 04 02:18:37 It is a well known fact that the Australian Government would have banned tourism long ago had it not been for the fact that with no tourists, the drop bears would have been forced to feed on Australians. Nov 04 02:20:37 oil: so Lisa told me that people who say "webaws" get shot around Palm HQ, and have all their Pre 2's taken off them. Nov 04 02:21:51 lol Nov 04 02:23:36 oil: looks like someone found your latest addition: http://yfrog.com/gov00p Nov 04 02:23:50 haha Nov 04 02:24:24 except the W *is* capitalised in "WebOS Internals" ... Nov 04 02:24:29 right Nov 04 02:24:33 but not in PreWare Nov 04 02:24:36 right Nov 04 02:24:38 right, but wrong Nov 04 02:24:54 no Nov 04 02:24:56 I mean yes Nov 04 02:24:59 I mean no Nov 04 02:25:01 wait, what? Nov 04 02:25:15 but not in PreWare Nov 04 02:25:23 oil: and when saying "WebOS Internals", you have to say "web aww sin ter nals" to avoid trademark issues. Nov 04 02:25:24 * haeffb is pretty sure that W was capitalized. Nov 04 02:25:37 not in Preware Nov 04 02:25:41 lol Nov 04 02:25:46 yeah, not in that one Nov 04 02:25:49 i capitalized it to show how crazy it looked Nov 04 02:25:53 but people keep typing it like that Nov 04 02:26:31 * haeffb is a capitalization expert. I can tell at a glance whether a letter is capitalized or not. Nov 04 02:26:39 oil: at least that's my defense if they give me a Pre 2 and then try and take it off me again. Nov 04 02:26:40 haha Nov 04 02:26:42 except for M and W Nov 04 02:26:52 which are more tricky than your average letter Nov 04 02:27:11 is it a capital i or a lowercase L, nobody knows! Nov 04 02:27:24 and X Nov 04 02:27:51 I can never tell the difference between and upper and lower case space. Nov 04 02:28:06 " " vs " " - who can tell? Nov 04 02:28:13 * haeffb can Nov 04 02:28:17 lol Nov 04 02:28:18 the first is lowercase Nov 04 02:28:24 wrong Nov 04 02:28:25 see, told you I'm an expert Nov 04 02:28:38 they are both upper-case. Nov 04 02:28:49 so, I leave the country and a whole bunch of good shit happens Nov 04 02:28:53 nope, typo. Nov 04 02:28:54 this is my story Nov 04 02:29:10 you in chile? Nov 04 02:29:14 or back from chile? Nov 04 02:29:19 In Chile Nov 04 02:29:27 sugardave_: referring to some elections or webOS 2.0 doctor ? Nov 04 02:29:44 they have The Shittiest Internet Connections On Earth(tm) here Nov 04 02:29:46 I think he's referring to the discussion of letter case Nov 04 02:29:50 rwhitby: doctor, openvg, etc. Nov 04 02:30:14 sugardave_: you must be the only person who cared about the OpenVG tweet I think Nov 04 02:30:15 "whole bunch of good shit happens" == Preware vs PreWare Nov 04 02:30:42 well, it's not like I can DO anything with it, but it is exciting for what others will be able to do Nov 04 02:32:17 rwhitby: the elections? meh, as long as the sheeple keep electing Republicans or Democrats, nothing good is ever going to come of it Nov 04 02:38:20 * sugardave_ killed #webos. Nov 04 02:38:22 sorry Nov 04 02:38:27 how did spotify make it into the app store? Nov 04 02:38:31 it's a hybrid app! Nov 04 02:38:38 * halfhalo just drove the g25 Nov 04 02:38:44 sorry, meant app catalog Nov 04 02:38:59 sand445: is it 2.0 only? Nov 04 02:39:24 I don't think so people are trying it and posting reviews right now Nov 04 02:39:29 I may have _slightly_ broken the speed limit Nov 04 02:39:33 interesting Nov 04 02:39:55 it has some compiled components which I have to assume are the parts that handle offline Nov 04 02:41:20 sand445: Palm can allow hybrid apps if they choose. Nov 04 02:41:42 I see Nov 04 02:42:00 so do you have to be a big company like spotify to get that access? Nov 04 02:42:12 seems a little unfair to the little guy Nov 04 02:42:27 I would imagine so, or have the coolest app idea ever guaranteed to rake in millions Nov 04 02:42:29 Well, yes, but for a good reason Nov 04 02:42:56 maybe they're using spotify as a test case for hybrid apps? Nov 04 02:43:04 Nope Nov 04 02:43:42 I guess I think if it works for spotify they should just make it available in general Nov 04 02:43:54 The pre webos 2.0 hybrid implementation is retarted and broken, and each app has to be screen really carefully to make sure it works properly Nov 04 02:44:53 oh I see Nov 04 02:44:55 * halfhalo doesn't mean the pre pre, but the before webos 2.0 Nov 04 02:45:30 pre-webos 2.0 Nov 04 02:45:43 hybrids FTW Nov 04 02:45:55 a time that will become known as "The Dark Ages" of webOS development Nov 04 02:46:03 where legends were made Nov 04 02:46:07 oil: +1 hybrids make apps like spotify possible Nov 04 02:46:07 GET BACK TO YOUR CLOSET OIL! Nov 04 02:46:10 webos 1.x Nov 04 02:46:10 :p Nov 04 02:46:22 almost all the apps i work on are hybrids Nov 04 02:46:24 * halfhalo kids Nov 04 02:46:34 * halfhalo knows of one thats not Nov 04 02:46:35 yeah but those are homebrew Nov 04 02:46:38 eww, halfhalo is producing baby goats Nov 04 02:46:55 halfhalo: xbl friends, dotgame, blocked Nov 04 02:47:04 all from before i joined webosinternals Nov 04 02:47:07 its a very underestimated market for baby goats Nov 04 02:47:20 I guess it does make sense why spotify's app id is prefixed with com.palm Nov 04 02:47:23 everything else has had another component Nov 04 02:47:24 they are tasty, I admit Nov 04 02:47:33 see, those were all GOOD apps oil! Now look what at the crud your making... Nov 04 02:47:40 lol Nov 04 02:47:47 http://i52.tinypic.com/2uti8go.png Nov 04 02:47:48 :) Nov 04 02:48:06 * halfhalo gives oil a cookie Nov 04 02:48:21 wow, it's like oil is a grpahic designer or something Nov 04 02:48:26 lol Nov 04 02:48:34 * oil knows his way around photoshop Nov 04 02:48:34 we need an oil press release Nov 04 02:48:40 CTLAdvance: not another one Nov 04 02:48:42 * halfhalo got gas in the infinity today... it took 5 minutes WITH the manual to open the stupid filler door Nov 04 02:48:54 hahaha Nov 04 02:48:56 noob Nov 04 02:49:11 theres no open filler door button... Nov 04 02:49:19 you have to do a satanic ritual to open it Nov 04 02:49:33 heh Nov 04 02:49:36 * haeffb just pulls mine open Nov 04 02:49:56 * oil has a little lever inside Nov 04 02:50:10 * CTLAdvance needs a key for his Nov 04 02:50:13 * halfhalo has a lever in his suv, but the infinity has no lever. nor a door handle Nov 04 02:50:23 yeah, I have the haeffb style door Nov 04 02:50:45 * CTLAdvance brings 30 gallons with him where ever, needs a lock for the truck Nov 04 02:51:05 I owned a car (my first) that required a key to open the cap...it was from the 70s when it was cool to steal gas from parked cars, apparently Nov 04 02:51:07 you have to sacrifice a baby llama to the car gods, unlock the doors in a super secret way, then press on the filler cap in a special place and it magically pops open Nov 04 02:51:26 so its all about pressing in a special place Nov 04 02:51:31 yes Nov 04 02:51:33 thats what she said Nov 04 02:51:33 always Nov 04 02:51:33 lol Nov 04 02:51:58 t-minus 2 days until basketball season opener Nov 04 02:52:08 jesus, didn't that shit just end? Nov 04 02:52:12 I will say this, 7 gears > 4 gears, and rwd > fwd Nov 04 02:52:18 oh who won the world series? Nov 04 02:52:30 some people Nov 04 02:52:37 Mizzou vs Harris-Stowe exhibition friday at 7pm Nov 04 02:52:41 the California team Nov 04 02:52:42 and by world series, you mean, not the whole world series Nov 04 02:52:53 "the california team" awesome, haha Nov 04 02:52:55 Yes, my next truck will have a 7 speed... 4 is a killer, of course always 4wd Nov 04 02:53:20 * haeffb doesn't watch baseball Nov 04 02:53:27 oh well, I'm impressed the Rangers actually made it to the series...they are notorious chokers of the lames caliber Nov 04 02:53:36 oh Nov 04 02:53:38 but I do know that California beat Texas for the championship of the world Nov 04 02:53:44 it includes Canada, so it's technically the world Nov 04 02:53:45 me, neither, but I knew they were in it Nov 04 02:53:58 Canada... is that still up there? Nov 04 02:54:22 I wonder why the Japanese teams don't get to compete? Nov 04 02:54:24 its americas hat Nov 04 02:54:27 lol personally I think Rogers Center is one of the nicest baseball stadiums in the league Nov 04 02:54:53 sugardave_: because the Japanese didn't make the rules. Nov 04 02:54:59 sugardave: maybe it's too inconvenient to fly teams across the pacific for a series Nov 04 02:55:01 maybe the strike zone is too short for all the other teams' pitchers Nov 04 02:55:06 hahaha Nov 04 02:55:12 zing! Nov 04 02:56:03 And Cuba...man, they could field the most amazing ball team ever, if they just finally ditched that whole Communism thing Nov 04 02:56:32 We should buy cuba Nov 04 02:56:45 meh, the whole communism thing isn't what's holding Cuban baseball back, it's just that whenever the Cuban baseball team goes abroad at least one of them will defect Nov 04 02:56:58 because of Communism Nov 04 02:57:04 good times... Nov 04 02:57:57 well the government could give them a good house and wives and stuff Nov 04 02:58:07 but the government doesn't really care for their baseball team Nov 04 02:58:17 not like steinbrenner cared about the yankees... Nov 04 02:58:19 but they don't. Because their broke. Because their commies Nov 04 02:58:42 they're broke because the rusky dollars stopped flowing in Nov 04 02:58:55 holycrap Nov 04 02:59:06 * halfhalo just had a pen become a projectile weapon Nov 04 02:59:18 * oil wonders how this all pertains to webaws Nov 04 02:59:32 spoilsport Nov 04 02:59:33 we must keep Communism away from webOS.....simple Nov 04 02:59:37 Capitalism FTW Nov 04 02:59:42 there was a webos phone at a baseball game once Nov 04 02:59:46 it's too late for iOS **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 04 02:59:57 2010