**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 12 02:59:57 2010 Nov 12 03:02:17 haha Nov 12 07:07:01 howdy folks Nov 12 07:32:43 Godmorgning WebOS Nov 12 07:35:32 morning hotdp Nov 12 07:35:53 How is the service going? Nov 12 07:36:20 no feedback yet, so chilling Nov 12 07:36:38 getting paid regardless Nov 12 07:36:41 lol Nov 12 07:36:54 uhh cool Nov 12 07:36:58 by hour or? Nov 12 07:37:09 neah a set number Nov 12 07:37:44 the problem is that things are not in place as i thought Nov 12 07:38:20 so will probably have 2 charge more Nov 12 07:40:56 trying to connect 12,000+ images to a databse Nov 12 07:41:37 connect? Nov 12 07:42:40 already built the formula for the search, and know how to connect, but without any relevance between both it is almost impossible Nov 12 07:42:56 so waiting Nov 12 07:45:27 I dont understand what you mean by "connecting"? Nov 12 07:48:44 have 12,000 images without a code number that refers to nothing Nov 12 07:49:36 I see Nov 12 07:49:43 if the index was "1000234" to image "1000234" it would be good t Nov 12 07:49:51 I understand Nov 12 07:49:58 so there is no way to connect? Nov 12 07:50:08 no refference? Nov 12 07:50:21 try "10023" to image "cab_45_1.tiff" Nov 12 07:50:44 exactly no reference Nov 12 07:50:54 Manual work then :P Nov 12 07:51:02 yeah Nov 12 07:51:31 atleast another $ Nov 12 07:52:30 but fuck the $, i thought it was straight forward Nov 12 07:53:40 i got a new app to develop Nov 12 07:53:42 =) Nov 12 07:53:45 brb Nov 12 07:54:30 Hey Nov 12 07:54:33 Anybody here? Nov 12 07:56:05 yes Nov 12 07:57:26 I need an opinion Nov 12 07:57:27 Right now Nov 12 07:57:36 So, my chat system Nov 12 07:57:48 I've migrated over to Push, which changes how I handle everything Nov 12 07:57:58 And allows me to handle PMs differently Nov 12 07:58:07 yeah Nov 12 07:58:44 what is your question kesne Nov 12 07:59:20 first u do not need push make PMs differently Nov 12 07:59:33 Originally, they were handled using the same channel, and filtering out PMs client-side. But with Push, I now have the ability to subscribe a user to it's own PM channel, and have users push pms to those channels Nov 12 07:59:37 Which should I do Nov 12 08:01:02 kesne: honestly all it takes is one digit of coding to make a difference Nov 12 08:01:32 but i am talking server side "cloud" Nov 12 08:01:32 I'm not sure I get what you mean Nov 12 08:02:25 kesne: i built my chat system very different than most, so my system is different Nov 12 08:02:58 Okay Nov 12 08:03:03 What do you think I should do? Nov 12 08:03:10 everything changes on the fly Nov 12 08:03:58 not sure Nov 12 08:04:18 Bleh Nov 12 08:04:21 I love push though Nov 12 08:04:33 * oil didnt build his chat system Nov 12 08:04:35 then keep it Nov 12 08:04:47 * oil latched onto something already used :) Nov 12 08:04:49 oil: You talking about wIRC? Nov 12 08:04:54 lol Nov 12 08:05:02 This is just chat in Checkers Nov 12 08:05:18 Now with Push chat messages Nov 12 08:05:21 And push gameplay Nov 12 08:06:21 i learned coding from a coloring book, so I am not a person to ask about advice Nov 12 08:06:57 * oil first coding experience was LOGO in like elementary school Nov 12 08:07:11 lol Nov 12 08:07:30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(programming_language) Nov 12 08:07:43 i build everything backwards Nov 12 08:08:32 * oil should make logo for webos Nov 12 08:12:48 * hotdp wonder where in the world oil lives Nov 12 08:12:58 washington state Nov 12 08:13:25 So its night? Nov 12 08:13:33 its 12:07am Nov 12 08:13:41 ahh ok thought it was later Nov 12 08:13:41 nice Nov 12 08:14:19 * oil is no stranger to being up till 3 or 4am then get up for work at 7 Nov 12 08:14:22 SD time =) Nov 12 08:14:34 * hotdp needs 8 hours of sleep Nov 12 08:14:54 neah try 4 Nov 12 08:15:33 for devdays, im driving to seattle at like 1-2am Nov 12 08:16:06 takes 2 hours in good weather Nov 12 08:16:22 wish i could be in devdays, will be at devdays in cali next year Nov 12 08:17:03 things just did not work out Nov 12 08:17:12 ;( Nov 12 08:17:30 oh well Nov 12 08:18:28 in mexico now, a trip that would have been $1200 turned into a $3000 trip Nov 12 08:19:01 need to go back to San Diego with some of that money Nov 12 08:20:07 LoneStar99 would have been great if you could come :) Nov 12 08:20:25 do someone know Carnegie Club ? Nov 12 08:20:35 meetup page has a lot more posts on it now Nov 12 08:21:08 yeah, for sure Nov 12 08:21:33 not sad, just made some different decisions Nov 12 08:23:09 hotdp: if i get some funding in the next 5 days I will be ther Nov 12 08:23:10 e Nov 12 08:23:53 oil, what bage? Nov 12 08:23:55 page* Nov 12 08:24:06 http://www.webos101.com/DevDayNYCMeetup Nov 12 08:24:33 ahh posts = attending Nov 12 08:26:51 yeah, thats what i meant Nov 12 08:27:11 oil: You live right above me! Nov 12 08:27:19 * oil moves Nov 12 08:27:34 heh Nov 12 08:27:47 above? Nov 12 08:28:24 * oil assumed he meant "north" Nov 12 08:28:33 maybe i've got a higher elevation, idk Nov 12 08:28:37 Heh Nov 12 08:28:44 oil where you at dev day last year? Nov 12 08:28:48 no Nov 12 08:29:03 " Offsite networking event at Lucky Strike Lanes and Lounge. Ground transportation will be provided " what will this be? Nov 12 08:29:16 bowling? Nov 12 08:29:56 Lounge <-- drinking ? Nov 12 08:30:09 ah, probably Nov 12 08:30:37 Oki hmm Nov 12 08:30:50 I have alot to do in nyc and not much time :S Nov 12 08:31:05 oh? Nov 12 08:31:31 Many things to see/visit :) Nov 12 08:31:37 ah Nov 12 08:35:50 damn boys it would be cool 2 b in NYC Nov 12 08:36:15 :) Nov 12 08:36:43 but for once need to look beyond everything and just chill Nov 12 08:36:47 lol Nov 12 08:36:57 I will chill in nyc for sure :P Nov 12 08:37:20 awesome Nov 12 08:38:06 Push = sex Nov 12 08:38:25 kesne awesome Nov 12 08:38:31 lol Nov 12 08:39:23 It's easy too Nov 12 08:39:37 Those of you going to dev days will get a taste from the neato dude Nov 12 08:39:50 <[AD]Turbo> yo all Nov 12 08:39:56 all i know is that NYC would be killer, but NYC is not ready for me, so will have to wait Nov 12 08:41:20 can drink with homeless, give them money, then after be one a very pimp hotel Nov 12 08:41:42 ;) Nov 12 08:42:08 my trip to NYC would cost from mexico with the ways i do things about $5K Nov 12 08:42:20 :) Nov 12 08:43:34 it is exciting, but will have to pass Nov 12 08:45:13 You can drink a tequila and send some thoughts to dev days :P Nov 12 08:46:30 hotdp: i will send you all some drinking cash Nov 12 08:47:31 no need, save them for next dev day :) Nov 12 08:47:43 i have saved alot for drinking cash ;) Nov 12 08:47:59 i will only spend money on steak, drinking and pre2 :P Nov 12 08:48:54 email me at diegoATearthoid.com will send you boys some cash to buy a tequila bottle and you all have shots Nov 12 08:49:18 it will be via paypal Nov 12 08:49:58 shots for WebOS Nov 12 08:50:08 and all the developers Nov 12 08:51:02 well all the developers that we chat with regularly Nov 12 08:52:29 Haha Nov 12 08:52:49 LoneStar99 i will drink with you when i meet you one day :) Nov 12 10:34:08 rwhitby you there? Nov 12 10:47:57 hotdp: yes Nov 12 10:49:01 i saw a internals twitter Nov 12 10:49:17 Global Pre for 650 ? what do you mean with global? Nov 12 10:51:19 non-US 3G bands Nov 12 10:51:36 the ones used in the rest of the world = global Nov 12 10:54:41 thanks would just like the difinition Nov 12 10:56:07 * rwhitby updates meetup page Nov 12 11:42:27 rwhitby http://www.webos101.com/DevDayNYCMeetup ? Nov 12 13:01:02 £399 for a Pre 2.. is that to much? Nov 12 13:04:28 wow Nov 12 13:04:34 so close to $900 Nov 12 13:05:07 that's way too much Nov 12 13:05:17 my brand new awesome laptop was $930 Nov 12 13:05:47 hell, my h&k pistol(h&k is like apple, they add $400 to the price for a shiny sticker) was less than that :P Nov 12 13:05:48 900? Nov 12 13:05:59 $640 Nov 12 13:06:06 399 pounds Nov 12 13:06:12 the pound is close to 1:2 Nov 12 13:06:22 LOL Nov 12 13:06:23 no Nov 12 13:06:44 it's 1.6 right now Nov 12 13:06:50 $640 Nov 12 13:06:52 is is Nov 12 13:07:29 fine Nov 12 13:07:36 still really damn expensive Nov 12 13:07:49 its normal for phones in my country Nov 12 13:07:54 ouch Nov 12 13:08:00 a andoid phone with same specs cost the same Nov 12 13:08:01 i think i paid $200 for my palm pre plus Nov 12 13:08:03 brb Nov 12 13:08:05 android* Nov 12 13:19:08 back Nov 12 14:04:36 heh: "iOS 4.2 is Apple's eagerly awaited software update for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. It will mark the debut of iOS 4 on the iPad, bringing features like folders and multitasking that iPhone and iPod touch owners have enjoyed for months." Nov 12 14:04:48 "have enjoyed for months" yay for that \o/ Nov 12 14:04:55 lol Nov 12 14:10:20 ugh Nov 12 14:10:28 slowly going thru trying to get 3 stars in every level Nov 12 14:10:42 ive got world 1 all done.. stupid game ;p Nov 12 14:16:37 Workenhaven: you paid $200 plus some amount per month. Nov 12 14:16:46 yea Nov 12 14:16:51 well i pay that anyway Nov 12 14:17:00 regardless of the phone i use Nov 12 14:17:03 well you wouldn't if you were in europe Nov 12 14:17:27 their model is different Nov 12 14:28:57 ahhh Nov 12 14:29:04 the joys of being back on sero Nov 12 14:29:12 bill went from $73~/m to $37~/m Nov 12 14:29:31 which is odd, cause its supposed to be $40/m+insurance+taxes Nov 12 14:41:13 morning folks Nov 12 14:42:03 Hey LoneStar99 Nov 12 14:42:12 it's not morning Nov 12 14:42:14 it's Nov 12 14:42:21 "dear god why am i up so early" Nov 12 14:42:52 howdy hotdp Nov 12 14:43:17 Workenhaven: not sure Nov 12 14:43:56 lol Nov 12 14:43:59 the irish gov't is on the verge of default Nov 12 14:44:17 yea Nov 12 14:44:24 i short stocked an irish bank that was doing bad Nov 12 14:44:27 :P Nov 12 14:44:31 cause of that Nov 12 14:47:39 yeah, toxic home loans Nov 12 14:47:50 in the irish sea Nov 12 14:50:00 the best thing the germans ever invented "alka seltzer" with asprin Nov 12 14:56:44 hah Nov 12 14:57:00 so for giggles i applied to refinance my car loan Nov 12 14:57:08 the site i used is owned by my current lender Nov 12 14:57:34 well they approved me, and its for my old lender that sold my loan to my current lender.. Nov 12 14:57:42 what the freaking hell Nov 12 14:59:26 hah now it says they couldnt do it Nov 12 14:59:28 bah Nov 12 15:01:49 crazy Nov 12 15:02:24 yeah crazy is right Nov 12 15:02:24 that loan company is probably go under Nov 12 15:02:33 my car loan has been sold twice Nov 12 15:02:49 i bought the car and had chrysler financial, then before my first payment was due it was sold to CitiFinancial Nov 12 15:03:03 then recently it was sold to Santander Consumer USA (who?!) Nov 12 15:03:04 yeah, some french probably owns the note now Nov 12 15:04:48 that is how all these international banks folded, us banks selling toxic notes to international banks at a discount Nov 12 15:06:48 and toxic notes not being paid back by US consumers Nov 12 15:08:24 consumers = debtors Nov 12 15:37:04 is flv a supported file type? Nov 12 15:41:52 dawm: for what? Nov 12 15:42:28 video on webos Nov 12 15:42:37 im leaning towards no Nov 12 15:42:38 I don't think so Nov 12 15:43:57 dawm: MP4, M4A, M4V, MOV, 3GP, and 3G2 Nov 12 15:44:13 according to the docs, anyway Nov 12 15:45:30 yah Nov 12 15:45:41 youtube and the break.com app both use mp4 Nov 12 15:45:54 flv is flash, huh? Nov 12 15:46:12 its flash but its not Nov 12 15:46:16 heh Nov 12 15:46:22 its just a video format Nov 12 15:46:39 oh, that whole container thing that I don't really get Nov 12 15:47:49 was thinking of working on a video app but the site doesnt seem to have mp4 data, they have an api but i think google just found it cause theres no real info, and i wanted to make sure webOS handled FLV before i started asking ;p Nov 12 15:49:38 they have an iphone app tho Nov 12 15:54:46 dawm: there you go, just write an iOS emulator Nov 12 15:58:24 nah ill peak in the app ;p Nov 12 17:03:53 <[1]nadav> Hi all. I've removed a program using webOSQuickInstall, but for some reason the icon was left on the launcher. Do you know where the shortcuts are defined so I can remove it myself? Nov 12 17:08:15 * sugardave points [1]nadav to #webos-internals. Nov 12 17:12:54 <[1]nadav> thanks :) Nov 12 18:40:14 this.controller.document.createElement("div") seems to be returning 'undefined'. what is the proper way to create a dom element from inside an assistant? Nov 12 18:54:37 good morning Nov 12 18:56:19 sup Nov 12 19:18:54 hemna: It may be overkill, but this is how I always do it: this.controller.get(document).createElement('div'); Nov 12 19:19:48 but perhaps, just document.createElement() should work? Nov 12 19:33:32 I thought document.createElement should work, but I'm getting undefined Nov 12 19:38:49 var newDiv = this.controller.get(document).createElement("div"); Nov 12 19:38:49 Mojo.Log.info("newDiv %j", newDiv); Nov 12 19:38:52 undefined Nov 12 19:38:53 arg Nov 12 19:41:53 strange Nov 12 19:42:04 if I log newDiv.id I get the correct value Nov 12 19:42:06 odd Nov 12 19:42:12 still isn't working right though Nov 12 19:43:40 that is weird Nov 12 19:44:03 i newDiv were undefined, I wouldn't expect it to have an id :D Nov 12 19:48:13 yah, that's why I got stuck Nov 12 19:48:22 it's showing up ok now Nov 12 19:48:37 but if I dump it via %j it says undefined Nov 12 20:06:46 hi all Nov 12 20:07:10 hey JenP Nov 12 20:07:20 hi ya Nov 12 20:15:09 hi JenP Nov 12 20:15:18 hey sugardave! Nov 12 20:15:43 * halfhalo has nachos Nov 12 20:48:40 is On0 success or failure? Nov 12 20:51:44 lol Nov 12 20:53:51 * dohtem throws a rock at oil Nov 12 20:54:05 * oil dodges like in the matrix Nov 12 20:54:23 * halfhalo shoots a shotgun at oil Nov 12 20:54:35 the rock splits into 3 like the blue bird in Angry Birds Nov 12 20:54:40 booyah! Nov 12 20:54:45 * oil still dodges them like in the matrix Nov 12 20:54:54 * halfhalo launches nule Nov 12 20:55:17 you guys dont seem to understand that the matrix dodge works for everything Nov 12 20:55:21 lol Nov 12 20:55:49 except blame Nov 12 20:56:36 hehehe.... Nov 12 20:59:33 curses! Nov 12 21:00:08 whats the command that creates a new webos project with dummy text? Nov 12 21:00:14 evening Nov 12 21:00:34 dohtem: copy/paste from another project? Nov 12 21:00:41 hey swisstomcat Nov 12 21:02:19 howdy swisstomcat Nov 12 21:02:27 what's new? Nov 12 21:03:05 excited for devdays! Nov 12 21:03:10 yeah :( Nov 12 21:03:20 :/ Nov 12 21:03:23 wish i could come Nov 12 21:03:34 yeah Nov 12 21:04:05 oh well Nov 12 21:04:13 another time i hope .. maybe even in europe Nov 12 21:09:11 swisstomcat! Nov 12 21:09:21 did you win PDK hot app? Nov 12 21:10:27 nope Nov 12 21:10:43 swisstomcat has apps? Nov 12 21:10:56 yeah Nov 12 21:11:02 i even won in the sdk hot apps :) Nov 12 21:11:07 * oil had no idea Nov 12 21:11:11 what apps? Nov 12 21:11:31 moo,toot,toot free,tuts +,fahrplan sbb Nov 12 21:11:47 toot = ... fat app? Nov 12 21:11:48 xD Nov 12 21:11:50 animal memory Nov 12 21:12:12 toot=machines and their images/sounds Nov 12 21:12:20 moo=animals and their images/sounds Nov 12 21:12:22 ah Nov 12 21:12:29 tuts +: interface to tutsplus.com Nov 12 21:12:59 fahrplan sbb: interface to the swiss public transport timetable Nov 12 21:13:43 nice Nov 12 21:14:16 sadly Nov 12 21:14:19 i gotta go back to work now :/ Nov 12 21:14:21 bbl Nov 12 21:14:23 lies Nov 12 21:14:44 work .. bah Nov 12 21:14:56 * oil dodges halfhalos accusation on his way out the door Nov 12 21:15:09 * halfhalo throws more blame at oil Nov 12 21:15:10 i quit my job Nov 12 21:16:32 i applied for a dev rel position at palm .. but i never heard back Nov 12 21:17:03 kinda sad .. not even an acknowledgment Nov 12 21:25:13 swisstomcat: hrm sad, i recently read that hp/palm is hiring again Nov 12 21:25:57 yeah Nov 12 21:26:08 but to strike @ those great firms you must know in which letter-box you have to throw in. Nov 12 21:26:09 i'd assume you would at least hear something from them ... nada Nov 12 21:26:23 it was through linkedin Nov 12 21:26:26 great/big Nov 12 21:27:51 neither are they interested in having europe based people Nov 12 21:28:12 swisstomcat: it lands on the table with the 10.000 other messages about jobs. then first selection is done, then second, third... and after that 1 person will be hired. Nov 12 21:29:16 i just updated the icon for my app. How do I get the new icon to show up? Nov 12 21:29:21 on the emulator Nov 12 21:29:26 i guess it works differently in the us .. here you would at least get an acknowledment Nov 12 21:29:35 dohtem: remove the app first Nov 12 21:29:40 palm-install -r Nov 12 21:29:48 thanks Nov 12 21:30:58 there it is. Nov 12 21:31:36 where? I don't see it. Nov 12 21:32:16 swisstomcat: even in germany i send mails to several firms, 1-2 / 20 didnt even answer. Nov 12 21:32:40 hmm :/ Nov 12 21:32:50 that's life today. Nov 12 21:32:52 i guess they get too many emails? Nov 12 21:33:02 don't know. Nov 12 21:33:14 but the people that want you really, answer very fast :) Nov 12 21:34:06 i had the most luck with announcing on twitter .. so far Nov 12 22:28:05 morning Nov 12 22:29:05 hey rwhitby Nov 12 22:30:43 moin/night Nov 12 22:40:37 Howdy! Nov 12 22:41:02 grrr! swisstomcat1!! Nov 12 22:43:56 Guess what? Nov 12 22:44:43 you... burned your white pants? Nov 12 22:44:54 you... came out to your parents? Nov 12 22:45:13 you... are going to say something about push in your app? Nov 12 22:46:20 * oilsworkn can continue guessing if you really aren't going to say Nov 12 22:46:54 I got my push messaging working! Nov 12 22:47:20 * oilsworkn WAS RIGHT! Nov 12 22:47:32 Indeed Nov 12 22:47:36 crazy Nov 12 22:47:44 most people dont wait for actual guesses after "guess what?" Nov 12 22:48:07 heh Nov 12 22:48:11 you are not to blame... Nov 12 22:48:16 I had pizza Nov 12 22:48:20 And I was eating it Nov 12 22:49:15 anyone know if color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5); works in webos? Nov 12 22:49:25 I believe so Nov 12 22:49:49 hm Nov 12 22:49:59 transparency? Nov 12 22:51:00 last night i was trying to get opacity: 0.5 to work on some text in webos Nov 12 22:51:03 and it was full of fail Nov 12 22:51:16 Yeah Nov 12 22:51:24 Opacity text doesn't work in webos Nov 12 22:51:37 but im hoping i can cheat by using rgba Nov 12 22:51:46 since text is the only thing in that div that i want semitransparent Nov 12 22:51:47 rgba works Nov 12 22:52:18 * oilsworkn will implement it when he gets home Nov 12 22:52:57 * MetaView is at home and goes for a battle in Mount&Blade Nov 12 22:54:07 in the xboxlive friends app Nov 12 22:54:22 oilsworkn: You should remake wIRC with Node.js Nov 12 22:54:22 previously i had images for the star ratings and gamerscore "(G)" icons Nov 12 22:54:24 no more though Nov 12 22:54:54 kesne: probably wont happen Nov 12 22:55:02 I just think it'd be cool Nov 12 22:55:15 puffthemagic would get really butthurt if I stripped out the part he made to go with node Nov 12 22:57:20 Hmm Nov 12 22:57:30 PubNub <2 Nov 12 22:57:33 *<3 Nov 12 22:58:11 kesne: what server are you using? Nov 12 22:58:19 rwhitby: What do you mean? Nov 12 22:58:32 your own or someone elses? Nov 12 22:58:37 Someone elses Nov 12 22:58:39 PubNub Nov 12 22:59:03 ah, right. are you going to get enough traffic that you'll have to pay? Nov 12 22:59:15 Yep Nov 12 23:00:45 kesne: not going to do APE? Nov 12 23:00:53 Tibfib: Nope Nov 12 23:01:00 why? Nov 12 23:01:07 PubNub is easier Nov 12 23:01:21 And less dealing with server-side issues Nov 12 23:01:56 kesne: I'm JUST about to start adding push Nov 12 23:02:03 I wonder what would be better in long run Nov 12 23:02:08 Tibfib: APE Nov 12 23:02:23 what's the bare minimun I need to get an app into the beta feed? Nov 12 23:02:25 Tibfib: Have you gotten any ape working webOS yet? Nov 12 23:02:32 kesne: nope Nov 12 23:02:33 dohtem: A developer account Nov 12 23:02:37 dohtem: package Nov 12 23:02:52 Tibfib: Good luck, I couldn't get it working Nov 12 23:02:54 Nope because he is waiting for me. Which I will do as SOON as my popcorn is done Nov 12 23:03:01 kesne: oh, great. Nov 12 23:03:09 halfhalo: :) Nov 12 23:03:09 But then again, it's me Nov 12 23:03:15 What's halfhalo doing? Nov 12 23:03:22 helping me set it up Nov 12 23:03:25 Ah Nov 12 23:03:27 ooh, is there a review process for the beta feed? Nov 12 23:03:30 dohtem: no Nov 12 23:03:43 kesne: I don't know server stuff at all Nov 12 23:03:43 PubNub took me around 30 minutes to get up and running Nov 12 23:03:54 its like 99% there, just needs to be told the ip and booted up Nov 12 23:04:10 thanks Tibfib, kesne Nov 12 23:04:33 * halfhalo goes to find the popcorn oil Nov 12 23:05:13 I'm actually using Push AND pull Nov 12 23:06:09 * halfhalo is out of butter... :/ Nov 12 23:06:47 use crisco Nov 12 23:07:03 aww Nov 12 23:07:08 that sounds gross Nov 12 23:07:16 it is Nov 12 23:07:17 haha Nov 12 23:07:38 * oilsworkn has a movie-style popcorn machine at his house Nov 12 23:07:49 * kesne hates popcorn Nov 12 23:07:54 * dohtem too Nov 12 23:09:30 * halfhalo has a 50 dollar popcorn maker that he just got Nov 12 23:09:31 does anyone know the horizontal field of view for the pre's camera? hugin isn't able to figure it out from the EXIF data Nov 12 23:12:24 Tibfib: ape says its running Nov 12 23:15:40 Ape? Nov 12 23:15:49 my pet Nov 12 23:16:17 pet ape? Nov 12 23:16:33 oilsworkn: you don't have one? Nov 12 23:16:38 nope Nov 12 23:16:45 * oilsworkn has no pets Nov 12 23:19:06 gah! godaddy sucks for plastering all these women on their site. I'm trying to login and someone walked by wondering what kinda websites I was viewing at work :( Nov 12 23:19:41 Haha Nov 12 23:19:48 I really like GoDaddy Nov 12 23:19:53 hence why I dont use godaddy Nov 12 23:19:56 Also, why would anybody use Godaddy? Nov 12 23:20:05 beside the women Nov 12 23:20:14 actually, I do use it for domains Nov 12 23:20:32 Well for domains is fine Nov 12 23:20:35 * halfhalo forgot to plug in popcorn maker..... Nov 12 23:20:46 Well there's your problem Nov 12 23:22:29 And dohtem, who would actually look at porn at work? Nov 12 23:22:53 people that work in the porn industry? Nov 12 23:23:17 dohtem: Do you work in the porn industry Nov 12 23:23:22 and students Nov 12 23:23:25 heh, nope Nov 12 23:23:37 I should work in the porn industry. Nov 12 23:23:39 More money Nov 12 23:29:39 o/ Everyone Nov 12 23:32:18 is anyone around that could explain some differences in view programming for webOS? Nov 12 23:32:41 I'm noticing that Ares uses .js files for views, where most tutorials are showing people to use .html Nov 12 23:58:37 codeslaw havnt been here for a while Nov 13 00:33:09 is sprint down for anyone? Nov 13 00:33:17 im hearing reports data works but everything else is down Nov 13 00:34:43 http://jalopnik.com/5688530/a-ferrari-f430-engine-bay-drawn-with-nothing-but-f Nov 13 00:34:48 hand drawn ascii art ;p Nov 13 00:34:59 dawm: twitter seems to agree Nov 13 00:35:37 dawm: no you have me paranoid Nov 13 00:35:48 now Nov 13 00:36:48 okay, just got texts from my google voice account on my sprint device Nov 13 00:37:39 yeah twitter says its down in area's Nov 13 00:37:43 tmobile too i guess Nov 13 00:37:48 terrorists? Nov 13 00:38:17 * dohtem checks his t-mo phone Nov 13 00:39:11 my sprint works :) Nov 13 00:41:06 oops can't do data and phone call.. fail Nov 13 00:45:26 i wonder if its an attempt to get #sprint trending ;p Nov 13 00:46:04 LOL Nov 13 00:46:05 http://twitter.com/#!/sprint/status/3245345710542848 Nov 13 00:48:22 yeah. Nov 13 00:48:29 sprint is failing pretty hard lately Nov 13 00:48:34 no pre 2... Nov 13 00:48:47 thats cause we're getting loadrunner Nov 13 00:48:58 sprint works fine for me Nov 13 00:49:16 how is that sprint failing hard? Nov 13 00:49:18 CTLAdvance, they know how to take care of us dev's even tho its not much Nov 13 00:49:28 its funny tho Nov 13 00:49:41 Why would sprint launch a device thats a slight bump in specs and functionality over the pre1 Nov 13 00:49:41 i tried calling my friend who has no service and when i do i get dead silence.. nothing at all Nov 13 00:49:42 ? Nov 13 00:50:00 CTLAdvance, its a tad more than a bump Nov 13 00:50:09 its really a bump Nov 13 00:50:11 yeah, my pre def works Nov 13 00:50:21 dual antennas, better case/screen protection Nov 13 00:50:28 CTLAdvance: It's a perfected pre imo. Nov 13 00:50:30 i hate that my pre is cracked and scratched the f' up Nov 13 00:50:34 tibfib Nov 13 00:50:37 I would agree Nov 13 00:50:46 and that's more than a "bump" Nov 13 00:50:50 the plus was a bump. Nov 13 00:50:54 but sprint is more droid now than anything Nov 13 00:51:13 http://twitter.com/#!/sprint/status/3246029281427457 Nov 13 00:51:24 aside from us, its really just a bump to most people Nov 13 00:51:30 HAH Nov 13 00:51:53 copy & paste fail Nov 13 00:53:09 ouch http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/12/uk-carriers-say-thanks-but-no-thanks-to-the-palm-pre-2/ Nov 13 00:55:22 anyone heard when bigred is getting the p2? Nov 13 00:57:47 i dont mean to be racist or anything Nov 13 00:58:00 but all these people on twitter that are complaining about sprint aren't white Nov 13 00:59:03 wow your such a racist Nov 13 00:59:08 lol Nov 13 00:59:17 what are you trying to say about non white people whos phone lines are cut off Nov 13 00:59:42 maybe that we're not complaining Nov 13 00:59:50 oil.... I blame you for his racism Nov 13 00:59:50 :P Nov 13 00:59:54 :D Nov 13 00:59:59 :/ Nov 13 01:00:20 hey there's people in the #webOS irc Nov 13 01:00:22 i mean seriously? http://twitter.com/#!/1MzKim/status/3248669667098624 Nov 13 01:00:24 this is new :) Nov 13 01:01:00 I don't like where this conversation is going... Nov 13 01:01:07 lol Nov 13 01:01:08 can we just turn the tide right now? Nov 13 01:01:13 that was just wrong Nov 13 01:01:19 screenshots in the emulator. Possible? Nov 13 01:01:25 dohterm yeah Nov 13 01:01:31 we cant confirm that here Nov 13 01:01:31 * oil rwtweets that Nov 13 01:01:32 dohtem: you could just take OS screencaps Nov 13 01:01:35 alt print screen, launch mspaint, crop Nov 13 01:01:41 thanks Nov 13 01:02:19 someone needs to write a FLV handler Nov 13 01:02:26 meh, its not working Nov 13 01:02:37 oh yeah emu grabskeys Nov 13 01:02:54 click on a different window but keep the emu visible Nov 13 01:02:58 and hit print screen Nov 13 01:03:05 it will grab your desktop and toss it in the clipboard Nov 13 01:03:09 buer Nov 13 01:03:12 bummer* Nov 13 01:03:14 then paste it into mspaint (or your favorite image editor) Nov 13 01:03:19 and then crop Nov 13 01:03:40 oil, http://twitter.com/#!/1MzKim/status/3249782218825728 Nov 13 01:03:53 same chick.. even worse tweet Nov 13 01:04:07 lol Nov 13 01:04:15 I need to write an iOS app tonight Nov 13 01:04:22 and get it working Nov 13 01:04:24 deal? Nov 13 01:04:26 deal Nov 13 01:04:31 okay self, let's do this! Nov 13 01:04:43 oh was that all just typed in IRC? Nov 13 01:04:53 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23sprint Nov 13 01:04:53 I thought I was typing that in my conversation with myself Nov 13 01:05:09 alexfner: have you been taking your pills? Nov 13 01:05:11 like i said before, it appears white people arent having sprint issues as much Nov 13 01:05:27 dohtem: no cause my cat ate all of them Nov 13 01:05:56 needless to say, don't have a cat anymore Nov 13 01:06:37 dawm: i think the ratio of black to white on twitter is a little higher than we think Nov 13 01:07:03 there's a nice white suit waiting for you. The kind with the cool sleeves that wrap around the back Nov 13 01:10:12 heh Nov 13 01:10:18 this is actually funny Nov 13 01:10:25 seeing all these people relying on their phones Nov 13 01:10:53 if ive got data, im good :) Nov 13 01:12:06 so it's a regional thing? Nov 13 01:12:55 no Nov 13 01:13:10 ive got friends in WI that have only data, im in MI and ive got everything as normal Nov 13 01:15:34 thats weird Nov 13 01:15:39 anyone here into dubstep? Nov 13 01:16:29 * halfhalo doesn't care that sprint is down, he doesnt get service at home anyways Nov 13 01:16:30 so I hit the submit button to submit to the catalog, how long does this thing take? Nov 13 01:16:51 depends on your app size. Nov 13 01:16:57 it is uploading it. Nov 13 01:17:38 and of course I accidentally close the tab Nov 13 01:17:41 FFFUUUUUUUU Nov 13 01:17:46 alex: yeah, why? Nov 13 01:18:18 JSpecMugen: pretty awesome remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBiyiU5Blm8 Nov 13 01:18:27 ...listening Nov 13 01:18:47 mmm fight club Nov 13 01:18:51 hehe Nov 13 01:19:20 JSpecMugen: you best have goot bass Nov 13 01:19:42 has anyone been contacted regarding developer pre 2s? Nov 13 01:20:05 c'mon now, i listen to nubreaks and dnb. it's the only way i fly Nov 13 01:20:25 haha Nov 13 01:20:27 nice Nov 13 01:20:39 http://yfrog.com/4yh3ebj Nov 13 01:20:45 lolz looks like hes in a trailer Nov 13 01:21:37 alex, what do you think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL1jaaJFnoU Nov 13 01:21:45 made the track 100x better Nov 13 01:22:14 needs a better bassline... but the kid is on the right path Nov 13 01:22:32 not a fan of the song they did it over heh Nov 13 01:22:49 I mean that greasy dub step bass is #1 Nov 13 01:22:50 yeah Nov 13 01:22:56 this bass needs to be a lot heavier Nov 13 01:24:16 maybe if enough people complain about this outage and demand the pre2, maybe we'll get it? Nov 13 01:24:25 bass -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3xjHSIMTU Nov 13 01:24:37 dawm: heh Nov 13 01:24:55 the pre2 is a lost cause :( Nov 13 01:25:09 i hope we get to some better devices before hp closes the doors on palm Nov 13 01:25:17 dawm: got an email that said they'll email when there is something to email about.. Nov 13 01:25:33 lol Nov 13 01:25:54 meta mail Nov 13 01:26:09 anyone in here play Eve? Nov 13 01:26:56 once upon a time Nov 13 01:27:09 stones throw records Nov 13 01:27:18 whens the last time you logged in Nov 13 01:27:20 ? Nov 13 01:27:20 they've nailed hip hop Nov 13 01:28:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jemRo6rzgg Nov 13 01:28:21 character creation is nuts. Nov 13 01:28:52 sorry... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP3SxhU_ue0&feature=related Nov 13 01:31:28 and if you want to get sold on the game... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I&feature=&p=F614A7A6461E61E1&index=0&playnext=1 Nov 13 01:43:57 imagine if AT&T's network crashed like this Nov 13 01:45:27 like what? Nov 13 01:46:08 sprint is apparently down Nov 13 01:46:18 dawm: Thats impossible, since att is ALWAYS sucky! Nov 13 01:46:37 all them iphone users crying Nov 13 01:47:03 jobs would just call it a feature Nov 13 01:50:30 good evening folks Nov 13 01:57:00 hah i broke bejeweled blitz on facebook Nov 13 01:57:12 ran out of moves but it doesnt actually prompted you with a message Nov 13 01:57:20 cause your not supposed to runout of moves ;p Nov 13 02:02:27 http://twitter.com/#!/jaxin414/status/3261721640697856 Nov 13 02:02:28 lol Nov 13 02:03:30 lol Nov 13 02:11:45 lmao Nov 13 02:27:26 hola Nov 13 02:28:19 http://twitter.com/#!/_h3rschDaddY_/status/3270567511724033 Nov 13 02:28:35 http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/12/visualized-sprints-wisconsin-outage-prompts-primitive-warning/ Nov 13 02:28:37 haha Nov 13 02:31:10 ahh I can't open links from wirc? bother Nov 13 02:32:50 cute Nov 13 02:32:51 http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/12/microsofts-adorable-new-windows-7-ad-touts-blu-ray-shows-macs/ Nov 13 02:36:38 you can open links from wirc Nov 13 02:36:38 wow, i didnt know you could still get a computer that spins a platter so you can watch a movie Nov 13 02:36:41 you just need to tap it good Nov 13 02:37:04 thanks dawm Nov 13 02:37:55 (being sarcastic ) Nov 13 02:38:14 I guess I'm not a good tapper Nov 13 02:38:57 but it prob extra doesn't work since I can't open links anywhere in webos outside the browser Nov 13 02:43:51 mime table reset? Nov 13 02:45:49 I ran the emerg file verification to no avail Nov 13 02:46:25 it looks like there should be a svc running at palm:// so I reckon it's just broken somehow.. Nov 13 02:50:18 is there a way to power off the phone in software? Nov 13 02:50:30 * DarkdowN has no power button **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 13 02:59:57 2010