**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 04 02:59:59 2010 Dec 04 03:06:11 it is possible to get the number of items in an object? like {apple:1, orange: 2, grape: 3} would give me 3 Dec 04 03:06:39 count and length are no good Dec 04 03:13:11 not if its json Dec 04 03:35:09 hrm.. is deactivate the best place to put on exit save functions? i know cleanup aint. Dec 04 03:37:58 hrm deactivate aint being called when minimized.. wth Dec 04 03:40:26 odd activate only gets called when the scene appears.. wth is going on Dec 04 03:42:38 CTLAdvance: not cool for a technical channel like #webos Dec 04 03:45:34 wth.. i thought deactivate got called when the scene got minimized Dec 04 03:45:46 it appears to only be called when i close/pop the card Dec 04 03:46:01 crap Dec 04 03:46:06 stupid windows is closing on me Dec 04 03:46:56 its been pestering me to install soem updates (every 4hrs) for like 2 weeks.. Dec 04 03:47:08 haha Dec 04 03:47:36 the dialog popped up while i was typing ;p Dec 04 03:47:45 komodo closed fast as hell Dec 04 03:47:54 but chrome saved me ;p Dec 04 03:50:17 dondondon Dec 04 04:02:55 bah.. it got me Dec 04 04:11:02 hi all Dec 04 04:33:27 man this is getting messy Dec 04 04:33:52 what's that dawm? Dec 04 04:34:11 this is the function i use to load my settings Dec 04 04:34:12 app.cupcake.fetch(app.cupcakes.settings, function(r) { app.settings = r; }); Dec 04 04:34:19 so many dots ;p Dec 04 04:34:26 lol Dec 04 04:36:21 now lets see if twitter works Dec 04 04:36:41 it appears so :D Dec 04 04:36:51 yeah Dec 04 04:37:16 i went thru my library and redid some things since i realized it wasnt as portable as i thought Dec 04 04:37:35 nice. Dec 04 04:38:05 i on the other hand am trying to remember everything i've forgotten about webos Dec 04 04:38:42 yeah, since i got approved for xAuth i just have to get the users username/pass once, and i magically get the tokens that i need to log them in without their username/pass Dec 04 04:38:53 i wish i didnt have to work tomorrow ;p i'm on a roll Dec 04 04:39:00 very cool Dec 04 05:20:07 50 first day makes me BAWL everytime... jeezus Dec 04 05:20:16 what a good movie :D Dec 04 05:20:33 ahhhh.... Dec 04 05:20:45 s/day/dates Dec 04 05:21:01 ahh? Dec 04 05:21:43 softy..... Dec 04 05:21:57 * mugen- whispers Dec 04 05:21:58 ahh? Dec 04 05:22:07 lol Dec 04 05:22:22 have you watched "life as a house"? Dec 04 05:22:36 huh uh... haven't even heard of it Dec 04 05:22:41 * mugen- imdb's Dec 04 05:23:00 you should check it out. it's pretty good Dec 04 05:23:54 oo.. sounds interesting. Dec 04 05:24:09 i take it, that it yanks tears out with a vengeance too? Dec 04 05:24:23 like you wouldn't believe.... Dec 04 05:24:36 then it compells you to find family members and hug them Dec 04 05:24:45 awe :\ Dec 04 05:24:58 but in a good way Dec 04 05:25:45 gotcha... Dec 04 05:25:54 well netflix has it on iview Dec 04 05:26:13 well there you go...it was fate. now you must watch it Dec 04 05:26:14 lol Dec 04 05:26:19 hehe Dec 04 05:26:23 guess so Dec 04 05:26:35 let me know what you think Dec 04 05:26:37 but before that... 4th meal is calling my name Dec 04 05:26:41 i will :) Dec 04 05:26:44 lol Dec 04 05:26:51 how's your friday night going? Dec 04 05:27:04 ok considering i have to work tomorrow too Dec 04 05:27:12 boo Dec 04 05:27:14 can't seem to get my head into programming lately Dec 04 05:27:16 yup Dec 04 05:27:51 can't get it wrapped into current projects? or having troubles coming up with new ideas? Dec 04 05:28:22 no i have the ideas..more like i'm so beat by the time i get home i just stare at my screen dazed Dec 04 05:29:03 but it's kinda cool my apps in the catalogs featured area.. Dec 04 05:29:20 i didn't even know until someone mentioned it Dec 04 05:29:33 ahh... Dec 04 05:29:37 really? :) which is that Dec 04 05:29:44 debt free Dec 04 05:30:01 nice :) congrats Dec 04 05:30:09 thanks Dec 04 05:30:18 it's doing well too, huh? Dec 04 05:30:28 good reviews and a boat of purchases Dec 04 05:30:43 yeah it's been cool Dec 04 05:31:24 right on... well i'll be back in a few Dec 04 05:31:28 need to grab fud Dec 04 05:31:38 k ttyl Dec 04 05:31:46 i've gotta go but i'll ttyt Dec 04 05:31:56 cya :) have a good night Dec 04 05:32:20 byes Dec 04 05:50:44 Anatomy of a webOS "port" to the HTC Hero: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2783070 - draw your own veracity conclusions ... Dec 04 06:10:46 holy crap, I just learned that you can set up an event listen for webkit transitions Dec 04 06:10:57 that is very handy Dec 04 06:23:07 sugardave: you can? Dec 04 07:25:09 * SineOt wants a chair where he can code... Upside down. Dec 04 07:37:18 * Tibfib wants a pre2. Dec 04 07:45:34 Tibfib: yes you can Dec 04 07:46:01 nice, I thought I read somewhere that was available in a updated webkit version that webOS doesn't have. Dec 04 07:46:05 element.observ('webkitTrasitionEnd',....) Dec 04 07:46:10 observe* Dec 04 07:46:16 it seems to work Dec 04 08:36:01 anyone used a samsung omni touch? Dec 04 12:38:46 anyone awake? Dec 04 12:44:30 no Dec 04 12:47:05 haha Dec 04 12:47:14 barely Dec 04 12:47:58 this place seems pretty quiet- i left the card open all night Dec 04 12:49:54 lol Dec 04 12:49:57 http://uploads.biocandy.com/data/twittermock.png Dec 04 12:58:24 am i missing some ridiculously clever joke in relation to that picture? Dec 04 12:58:35 no its a mock of a scene for my app Dec 04 13:00:30 looking pretty sweet :) Dec 04 13:39:34 rwhitby i have gotten the explanation from Palm now Dec 04 13:40:59 Where is the thread location on pc? Dec 04 13:41:23 got it.. Dec 04 14:09:26 boy oh boy Dec 04 14:09:42 mimic'd twitters allow/deny buttons perfectly ;D Dec 04 15:04:09 there, got my scene to look identical to the mockup ;D Dec 04 15:26:32 wake up every body! Dec 04 15:53:41 hi Dec 04 15:55:44 hi Dec 04 17:09:23 i waste more time on UI than i do code.. Dec 04 17:13:37 lol Dec 04 17:13:46 love the error message for login via mobile web for twitter Dec 04 17:14:03 'Typing on your phone stinks, we know! Double check your username and password and try again.' Dec 04 17:26:34 hi, anyone tell me off hand what patch conflicks with the 'GPS Icon on top bar', just offhand.. thankyou. Dec 04 17:27:29 I think* it's my display date instead of carrier patch.. can try I know, just wonderin. :) Dec 04 17:30:28 ugh.. finally got the wording just right to get the right information across but without having to have them scroll the scene to read it all.. Dec 04 17:33:14 :) Dec 04 17:36:23 screenshots ;D Dec 04 17:36:25 http://uploads.biocandy.com/data/xTwitter-Login.png Dec 04 17:36:33 http://uploads.biocandy.com/data/xTwitter-Success.png Dec 04 17:36:42 what ive spent the past 5hrs on Dec 04 17:51:07 what#s ailium? Dec 04 17:51:33 a game Dec 04 17:51:42 name might change tho, ive got that and another name in mind Dec 04 17:51:50 cool Dec 04 17:52:27 just going to upload something to the beta feed, will report back when available, current name is "Image Worker" Dec 04 17:53:38 whats it do? Dec 04 17:54:44 a tool for image enhancing and stuff, can also print Dec 04 17:55:13 nice Dec 04 17:55:48 it has some basic filters, some of them quite nice Dec 04 17:59:09 Hi, how can I install Adobe Flash? Dec 04 18:01:04 not available Dec 04 18:01:28 is included in 2.0 Dec 04 18:01:33 seriously? It has been announced to hit the streets months ago Dec 04 18:01:43 seriously, this platform is the biggest fail in mobile device history. Pretty much everything a management can do wrong has been done wrong. And even wronger than that. Dec 04 18:01:46 yes, part of 2.0 Dec 04 18:01:52 and I bet I won't be able to use any of the WebOS 2.x improvements with my Palm Pre 1.0 Dec 04 18:01:59 why not? Dec 04 18:02:03 you will Dec 04 18:02:05 sure you will Dec 04 18:02:06 we will see Dec 04 18:02:11 lol Dec 04 18:02:18 I am on a dying horse, anyway Dec 04 18:02:28 you could buy an Android, you will not even get bugfixes... Dec 04 18:02:53 MetaView: I have numerous bugs on my Pre which haven't seen a fix yet Dec 04 18:03:06 such as? Dec 04 18:03:21 you're being a little dramatic to say it's the biggest fail in mobile device history Dec 04 18:03:29 yeah Dec 04 18:03:32 try English messaging with umlauts, as soon as you use one, the message counter goes up Dec 04 18:03:35 what was that microsoft phone? Dec 04 18:03:42 kin one and two Dec 04 18:03:42 what's ur horses name? Dec 04 18:03:56 yeah.. i think that was the biggest fail Dec 04 18:04:17 webos is the only platform where you can't use an English GUI language together with a different input language Dec 04 18:04:20 they're back on sale, aren't they ? Dec 04 18:04:32 that's also being very dramatic Dec 04 18:04:56 Emailing: when you delete an Email which you are currently viewing, it is put into Trash as unread. This makes me crazy Dec 04 18:05:13 webos is the only platform without any Voip app Dec 04 18:05:34 did you come here just to complain? Dec 04 18:05:35 webos is the only platform which cant put your contact's birthdays into the calender Dec 04 18:05:41 dawm: no Dec 04 18:05:45 sorry Dec 04 18:05:51 damanda i have my contacts birthdays in calendar Dec 04 18:05:54 I am just a little nervous Dec 04 18:06:06 dawm: me, too, but only because google offers this Dec 04 18:06:30 thus, the facebook contacts aren't Dec 04 18:06:38 if the phone isn't what you like, why not get a different one ? Dec 04 18:06:47 facebook puts my contacts birthday in Dec 04 18:07:05 bpadalino: that is the point: I do like the Pre a lot! I like the handling, form factor etc Dec 04 18:07:28 but competitors are so much doing better with worse UI design Dec 04 18:07:36 damada, you could find someone with the knowhow to help patch/fix the problems you see .. Dec 04 18:07:45 or try to tinker with it yourself Dec 04 18:08:06 bpadalino: I'd like to, but my knowledge is limited, not to say non-existant Dec 04 18:08:14 http://border-radius.com/ Dec 04 18:08:20 helpful site for whoever needs it Dec 04 18:08:30 the fact that Flash has been announced about a year ago and is still not here really bothers me Dec 04 18:08:47 OK, enough ranting, serious question: Dec 04 18:09:00 flash doesnt work right on mac, and they havent fixed that in years ;p Dec 04 18:09:12 its not like palm/hp makes flash Dec 04 18:09:43 out of my own stupidity I deleted the pdfviewer (because it crashed on almost every bigger PDF file)... Is there really no way to reinstall it other than flattening the whole phone? Dec 04 18:09:44 i'd probably quickly disable flash if/when it comes to the platform .. Dec 04 18:10:04 I suggest sending ruby an email Dec 04 18:10:18 dawm: yeah, I am not a big fan of flash exactly because of that. On my Linux box it only works OK since I have a dual core machine Dec 04 18:10:22 how do you accidently delete an app thats not removable Dec 04 18:10:36 dawm: PDFviewer is not marked as that Dec 04 18:10:53 there's a patch to mark it unremovable Dec 04 18:10:54 oh i see Dec 04 18:11:15 you could use metadoctor to restore it Dec 04 18:11:37 is this different from a full reinstall? Dec 04 18:11:42 yeah Dec 04 18:11:48 it can only restore things that are missing Dec 04 18:11:52 its like a partial doctor Dec 04 18:12:04 sounds interesting, never heard of it! Do you have a link? Dec 04 18:12:05 er wait maybe its not called metadoctor Dec 04 18:12:23 i know theres something, lemme look Dec 04 18:15:27 repair utility might work Dec 04 18:16:07 thats it Dec 04 18:16:22 http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/236486-webos-repair-utility-v2-1-a.html Dec 04 18:16:33 let me check Dec 04 18:16:36 WebOS Repair Utility is a completely unofficial, cross-platform desktop program that will compare md5sums. In essence, it checks which file are altered or damaged and gives options like to ignore or restore directly from webOSDoctor. Dec 04 18:17:00 uhoh, sound like it will delete all patches, will it? Dec 04 18:17:10 only if you tell it to Dec 04 18:17:20 if you just want the PDFViewer it should be able to do that Dec 04 18:17:43 since if its deleted, its not gonna pass the scan for changes Dec 04 18:17:52 and should prompt you to pull it back out of the doctor and install it Dec 04 18:19:23 OK, thanks a lot for that hint, will try it! (just need to have my phone charged again) Dec 04 18:20:25 * damada hopes -- in addition to that -- that he's issues with webos will go away with version 2.0... Dec 04 18:20:42 his, not he's :) Dec 04 18:21:14 the least being missing voip, the others I really think are bug fixes... Dec 04 18:22:08 anyone have the snipplet for passing stuff thru scenes? i dont wanna dig in my other apps to find it ;p Dec 04 18:35:44 dawm: what do you mean? Dec 04 18:35:50 nvm found it Dec 04 18:35:56 rather i looked in my code ;p Dec 04 18:36:02 pushScene({scenargs obj}, arg1, arg2...argn) Dec 04 18:36:04 oh, okay Dec 04 18:36:05 yah Dec 04 18:36:18 and popScene(....) fires into the previous scenes activate() Dec 04 18:36:22 right Dec 04 18:37:02 I guess I need to go cut the bushes back, though I probably already killed them all since it has frozen here a couple of times Dec 04 18:40:30 ugh Dec 04 18:40:35 chuq never got back to my email =/ Dec 04 18:45:11 aww what the hell. now my twitter lib aint working Dec 04 18:51:31 oh yeah, i changed it ;p Dec 04 19:14:37 so....there's a webkitTransitionEnd event, but not a start/begin? wtf? Dec 04 19:24:26 hey. Dec 04 19:35:22 evening Dec 04 19:37:11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESfEd180rQ Dec 04 19:37:14 wtf Dec 04 19:37:27 Chinese traffic accident compilation Dec 04 19:40:02 re Dec 04 19:40:14 dont they have stop signs? Dec 04 19:40:17 seriously Dec 04 19:40:24 we need a new PDFViewer, aren't we? Dec 04 19:41:12 does anyone knows if PDK apps get launch parameters? Dec 04 19:46:41 MetaView: a pdf viewer with a fancy library view like @ my iphone coder working mates. and with better image-processing! Dec 04 19:49:41 dawm: or rules like "left side shall drive before right side of hand/street" Dec 04 19:50:15 dawm: but i really do not see any signs at this crossings, as you say... :D Dec 04 19:50:57 my 27c3 app grows. Dec 04 19:52:43 as it is my second app, code is more structured / professional, and developed heavily faster Dec 04 19:54:36 why do they put the trees inside the street? Dec 04 19:56:56 MetaView: lol - now i noticed. Dec 04 19:56:59 wtf. Dec 04 19:57:57 that does not make sense... when the tree grows, the street breaks up(?) Dec 04 20:06:10 leiru: yes, crazy... Dec 04 20:47:57 Hmmm... Has anyone activated their developer Pre+ on ATT? Dec 04 20:48:52 no, I did my Pre2 instead Dec 04 20:49:22 sugardave: do you still have the ATT sim in it? Dec 04 20:49:37 I want to activate it so it quits barfing on ATT Wifi hotspots :B Dec 04 20:50:37 yeah, it's still in it, but I just use wifi now Dec 04 20:50:42 it's out 'o cash Dec 04 20:50:57 does it work on any ATT Wifi hotspots? Dec 04 20:51:08 hmm, I don't know Dec 04 20:51:42 I"m guessing no since it's a pay-as-you-go sim Dec 04 20:51:48 and Dec 04 20:51:50 it's out 'o cash Dec 04 20:52:44 It might be different since it's not an ATT branded device... But boy, it's annoying. Dec 04 20:53:10 Can't connect to any ATT Wifi hotspots, even ones that are supposed to be free for everyone like Starbucks. Fails out and says I should contact ATT support. Dec 04 20:54:39 I'm borrowing a SIM card on Sunday to activate it with to get App cat stuff, btu I don't know if it'll fail out after removing the SIM and giving it back. Dec 04 20:54:55 I'm just going to come out and say it. Nokia/Symbian is the most messed up, fragmented, terrible, horrible, devilish, must be burned operating system in the universe. Dec 04 20:54:58 App catalog only requires the device to have been activated once, correct? Dec 04 20:55:13 doc_lee: hah, did you see the stuff about them shuttering all the Symbian sites? Dec 04 20:55:26 rehi Dec 04 20:55:28 Nokia is taking it over. Dec 04 20:55:40 It's horrible. Dec 04 20:56:11 SineOtter: as far as I know, a single activation gets you forever app catalog access Dec 04 20:56:42 I made a new meta-doctor with wifi enabled so I can sign in to my palm profile in case things go bad Dec 04 20:56:42 It's like QT, QTWEbkit, QT QML, WRT, C++, Flash, J2ME...except every damn phone uses a different version of it! Dec 04 20:56:45 works like a charm Dec 04 20:57:07 Hmm... Okay. I'm going to assume that the Wifi issue works about the same way and is trying to read something from the phone NVRAM Dec 04 20:57:19 actually, let me check something I hadn't thought of! Dec 04 20:59:11 The phone can't read the IMEI or really anything if you have the phone radio turned off... But it seems ATT wifi hotspots try to read something else Dec 04 20:59:24 And don't even get me started on the "emulator" Dec 04 20:59:48 yeah.I'm hurting with the lack of audio in the emu. Dec 04 21:00:07 Symbian's? Dec 04 21:00:19 oh. Dec 04 21:00:24 * Tibfib hasn't been paying attention Dec 04 21:00:36 Symbian's at least does audio Dec 04 21:00:38 Kind of. Dec 04 21:06:24 * halfhalo wins! Dec 04 21:06:31 take that you silly railsQ Dec 04 21:06:32 ! Dec 04 21:07:53 well, besides the whole not working thing, anyways Dec 04 21:10:06 * SineOtter is wishing SO HARD that webOS supported the webkitTransitionEnd event :C Dec 04 21:10:30 SineOtter: ping sugardave, you can listen to it Dec 04 21:10:40 whoa, you can? Dec 04 21:10:45 apparently! Dec 04 21:10:56 sugardave: webkitTransitionEnd is supported in webOS?! Dec 04 21:11:04 it is not Dec 04 21:11:15 but there's another way to do it Dec 04 21:11:18 oooooooooh Dec 04 21:12:49 that'd make things so much easier because... yeah Dec 04 21:13:05 * SineOtter heckles sugardave with cookies and other small baked pastries Dec 04 21:13:33 SineOtter: sugardave told me how to do it earlier. you could check yesterdays logs, or the day before Dec 04 21:14:00 it is Dec 04 21:14:05 1.4.5 Dec 04 21:14:19 .observe('webkitTransitionEnd', function()....); Dec 04 21:14:24 element.observe Dec 04 21:14:41 I haven't tried it with this.controller.listen, but that should work, too Dec 04 21:14:47 sugardave: <3 Dec 04 21:14:59 oh, yeah, so it pretty much is supported. :) Dec 04 21:15:05 I'll try it out when I get back to my main machine, but that's awesome. Makes things so much easier to do Dec 04 21:15:07 but I can't believe there's no companion for start/begin Dec 04 21:15:32 start/begin should be pretty easy if you trigger the animation with code anyways Dec 04 21:15:39 true Dec 04 21:16:38 using .webkitTransform = "rotate(360deg)"; or whatever you want to animate. Could just trigger something else there to find out if your animation is starting Dec 04 21:19:54 has anyone gotten their pre2 coupons? Dec 04 21:22:41 webOS dev twitter. :p http://twitter.com/#!/rudderSQUISH Gotta say I love that icon... Dec 04 21:28:34 Huh, never noticed Ares has inertial scrolling. Dec 04 21:31:51 what are you making sineotter Dec 04 21:32:53 I've got three things in various states of completion right now... One of them is a meditation timer with fancy graphics, a heads up speed display, and I'm laying out a new Boxee Remote app right now... Since the one that's avaliable is kind of :s Dec 04 21:32:57 It spawns infinite scenes :I Dec 04 21:33:15 noice Dec 04 21:33:33 also glad to know we can observe webkit trans end Dec 04 21:33:46 meditation app with distracting fancy graphics? ;) Dec 04 21:34:24 Repeated webkit transforms heat up the device quite rapidly Dec 04 21:34:34 how do you get the current time with an html5 audio object? Dec 04 21:34:59 rwhitby: haha, nothing wrong with looking good for the few times you have to peek at it! Dec 04 21:35:31 or when you have to set it up, etc Dec 04 21:35:44 Tibfib: Is it finite? Dec 04 21:35:45 ;) Dec 04 21:35:53 doc_lee: nope Dec 04 21:36:01 Tibfib: Then you don't. Dec 04 21:36:11 oh? Dec 04 21:36:25 Yeah. You just setup a timer to start when it starts Dec 04 21:36:32 oh, shoot Dec 04 21:36:37 okay then Dec 04 21:36:39 thanks! Dec 04 21:36:43 no problem Dec 04 21:36:49 I did find out though that you can set up webkit transforms to take lengths of 60 minutes... Or at least that's the longest I've tried to test so far Dec 04 21:37:23 Of course, that was about a year ago when I did all of that coding in RadioTime so it might have changed since then but currtime was for finite file downloads. Dec 04 21:37:32 Or playback Dec 04 21:37:49 yeah, that sounds right Dec 04 21:38:03 I can use it in Scan Do! because it's streaming Dec 04 21:42:04 now it's published: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=de.metaviewsoft.printimage Dec 04 21:44:07 I am going to absolutely go off on the Nokia people on Monday Dec 04 21:49:20 good afternoon #webOS Dec 04 21:58:22 hi Dec 04 22:03:43 afternoon? Dec 04 22:03:56 g'd night Dec 04 22:03:58 it is sat. 22:54 in germany :) Dec 04 22:04:10 nite metaview Dec 04 22:08:34 doc_lee: mind if I ask you a couple questions about media playback? Dec 04 22:20:02 this is bullshit Dec 04 22:20:42 you still complaining about that dave? Dec 04 22:21:06 I remove a class name from an element to start a transition, and then I add a new element and a class name to it to start a transition. The transitions don't happen UNLESS I use my debugObject method to print out properties of the new element Dec 04 22:21:50 that may be because thats when it actually sees the new changes Dec 04 22:22:00 nyet Dec 04 22:22:14 if I return before adding the new element and class, the old element transition occurs Dec 04 22:22:31 yeah, I know, I mean thats when the system actually looks for the new changes Dec 04 22:22:37 oh, I see Dec 04 22:22:39 bogus Dec 04 22:24:13 I think all you have to do is actually ask the system about the object to trigger the change Dec 04 22:25:04 then again, I AM eating chips and salsa and that always makes me cwazy Dec 04 22:25:13 * sugardave tests some things. Dec 04 22:30:36 ugh theres gotta be a site somewhere that has animation strips.. i do not want to create this from scratch.. Dec 04 22:31:08 need somethign to tell the user to do a back gesture Dec 04 23:02:54 anyone got a good tut on animating something with css/js? i dont want to use animated gifs (they suk) Dec 04 23:06:48 nope Dec 04 23:16:02 i guess ill put that on the back burner Dec 04 23:16:46 gotta figure out animations for the game itself, which is gonna require some recoding since its pretty much a table that just changes cell colors, rather than actual items that move =/ Dec 04 23:17:29 hahaha Dec 04 23:17:45 i knew this was going too smoothly Dec 04 23:18:11 you should sue Dec 04 23:18:38 lol Dec 04 23:19:25 ugh im gonna kill windows Dec 04 23:19:29 it keeps renaming a folder on me Dec 04 23:19:36 hahahahaha Dec 04 23:19:42 like seriousl Dec 04 23:20:09 app wont work if a view folder keeps going uppercased Dec 04 23:22:55 maybe its svn thats doing it Dec 04 23:23:06 could be Dec 04 23:23:20 well i fixed it, or i can hope i did Dec 04 23:23:25 * sugardave fixes annyoing issue. Dec 04 23:23:54 so, prototype's docs are wrong or mojo doesn't honor one of the was to call element.stopObserving(); Dec 04 23:24:08 if you call it with no args it's supposed to remove every listener on the element Dec 04 23:24:13 but it doesn't :s Dec 04 23:24:14 hah Dec 04 23:25:13 ugh this is gonna suck balls Dec 04 23:26:55 lol Dec 04 23:26:56 http://robert.ingl.in/cantris.html Dec 04 23:27:04 if you hit space it doesnt drop.. it actually jumps Dec 04 23:27:25 i guess its time to learn canvas Dec 04 23:45:15 holy crap Dec 04 23:45:16 http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/?sound=0 Dec 04 23:48:20 dawm: that's impressive Dec 04 23:48:28 i know right? Dec 04 23:50:03 http://spielzeugz.de/html5/liquid-particles.html Dec 04 23:50:07 this is pretty responsive Dec 05 00:03:18 dawm: dangit. you just distracted me for 14 minutes Dec 05 00:03:25 heh sorry Dec 05 00:03:55 had to pull away Dec 05 00:13:21 I want to stick this AT&T SIM card into my Pre 2 but apparently I need to set it up properly. I don't have access to the AT&T setup info. Can you extract that from the old phone and doctor that onto the Pre 2? Dec 05 00:14:00 I have no idea... I have never heard of the need to do that before Dec 05 00:36:25 ok.. thats a start. figured out how to draw the gameboard and a few pieces in canvas Dec 05 00:44:06 dawm: what are you working on? Dec 05 00:44:23 anybody have a preference: kindle or nook ? Dec 05 00:44:27 gotta convert my game from a table to something animatible.. so canvas =( Dec 05 00:44:39 interesting Dec 05 00:44:43 yeah sucks Dec 05 00:45:03 spent all day making my twitter auth scene look stellar, and then i realize ive got a TON of more work to do ;p Dec 05 00:45:17 dawm: gonna open source your twitter lib? Dec 05 00:45:29 possibly, it requires xAuth access from twitter tho Dec 05 00:45:40 but i think i have it pretty portable. it only can tweet and follow tho Dec 05 00:45:46