**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 09 02:59:57 2010
Dec 09 03:02:07 <torchie> think palm will allow that sort of functionality from the catalog-approved?
Dec 09 03:03:50 <CTLAdvance> it cant be that hard to do it yourself
Dec 09 03:03:59 <CTLAdvance> using a cat approved app
Dec 09 03:04:30 <Loudergood> drpodder does it
Dec 09 03:05:02 <oil> it does?
Dec 09 03:05:04 <Loudergood> friggen love that app...I should buy it out of the catalog
Dec 09 03:05:16 * oil doesn't have it autodownloading stuffs though
Dec 09 03:05:27 * rwhitby does, but only on wifis
Dec 09 03:05:34 <Loudergood> I have it autodownloading stuff, only on wifi
Dec 09 03:05:40 * oil manually refreshes and manually downloads
Dec 09 03:05:56 * oil doesn't like things doing stuff in the background he doesn't know about
Dec 09 03:06:11 <Loudergood> no wonder you're not on android ;)
Dec 09 03:26:48 * Tibfib agrees with oil
Dec 09 03:28:52 <Loudergood> being that this is webos 1.4.5 the phone conveniently wakes up just to tell me that drpodder is refreshing feeds ;)
Dec 09 03:34:10 <Tibfib> oil: so are you making a combo box?
Dec 09 03:34:28 <oil> not as of yet
Dec 09 03:34:37 <Tibfib> http://i55.tinypic.com/20szyuw.png
Dec 09 03:34:42 <oil> i could make BetterListSelector do it though
Dec 09 03:34:43 <Tibfib> that's not one?
Dec 09 03:34:52 <Tibfib> creative name btw
Dec 09 03:34:54 <oil> its simply filtering the results, not becoming a new value
Dec 09 03:37:14 <oil> could probably be done easily with a button where the spinner is
Dec 09 03:37:33 <rwhitby> Tibfib: well, it *is* better
Dec 09 03:37:55 <Tibfib> rwhitby: heh, I don't doubt that
Dec 09 03:42:29 <CTLAdvance> hello rwhitby
Dec 09 03:43:47 <rwhitby> g'day CTLAdvance
Dec 09 03:49:09 <Tibfib> has anyone used Mojo.Event.singleTap?
Dec 09 03:51:26 <Spanska> Is that screenshot some custom widget?
Dec 09 03:51:38 <Spanska> showing a custom widget, sorry
Dec 09 03:52:49 <rwhitby> Spanska: yes, BetterListSelector
Dec 09 03:58:53 <SineOt> Man, sometimes I get so lost with Javascript. Why would this.controller.get("divID") suddenly throw errors of "cannot call method get of undefined"?
Dec 09 03:59:06 <halfhalo> this be not defined
Dec 09 03:59:34 <oil> if its a callback you didn't bind
Dec 09 03:59:39 <oil> so this.controller doesn't exist
Dec 09 04:06:44 <SineOt> yay for me screwing up .bind(this) again :c
Dec 09 04:07:19 <SineOt> has anyone used snapIndex for a scroller?
Dec 09 04:10:06 * SineOt feels like making it dumb question night
Dec 09 04:10:33 <CTLAdvance> your mom has
Dec 09 04:11:01 <SineOt> oh.snapIndex(9000)
Dec 09 04:12:12 <oil> snapIndex == distance it will "snap"?
Dec 09 04:12:36 <oil> the key is snapElements.y: []
Dec 09 04:12:47 <oil> (or x, depending on scroller)
Dec 09 04:13:01 <oil> to be fllled with an array of html objects you wish it to snap to
Dec 09 04:13:39 <SineOt> should I be simply passing the IDs for the DIVs, or doing something like $("divID") for the array?
Dec 09 04:15:05 <SineOt> snapIndex is apparently the element it should be snapping to, from what I can tell
Dec 09 04:16:17 <oil> i dont think so
Dec 09 04:16:24 <oil> where im using it, ive got it set at 100
Dec 09 04:16:30 <oil> but i dont have 100 elements
Dec 09 04:16:38 <SineOt> hmm
Dec 09 04:16:44 <oil> but, yeah, that array in the model should be an array of objects
Dec 09 04:16:59 <oil> so this.controller.get('element'), this.con...., this.cont....
Dec 09 04:17:06 <SineOt> "Sets the snap index for a snap scroller and scrolls to the new position; pass true to animate."
Dec 09 04:17:15 <SineOt> It's pretty vague documentation.
Dec 09 04:17:20 <SineOt> But I'll try that.
Dec 09 04:17:21 <oil> oh, you're talking about the method?
Dec 09 04:17:30 * oil was talking about the model property
Dec 09 04:17:32 <SineOt> Oh.
Dec 09 04:18:13 <oil> maybe it doesnt even matter
Dec 09 04:19:27 <oil> maybe ive got it there for no reason
Dec 09 04:19:34 <oil> (probably copy/pasted it from somewhere else)
Dec 09 04:19:45 <SineOt> I don't even think there is a snapIndex model property
Dec 09 04:19:49 <oil> lol
Dec 09 04:19:53 <oil> well, i got it from somewhere xD
Dec 09 04:20:03 <SineOt> the palm documents only have snapElements
Dec 09 04:20:08 <oil> yeah
Dec 09 04:20:16 <oil> i see that
Dec 09 04:20:23 <oil> they also use snapping wrong
Dec 09 04:20:31 <oil> showing mode: vertical, but then listing snap elements
Dec 09 04:20:43 <oil> instead of vertical-snap
Dec 09 04:20:57 <SineOt> Oh Palm documentation, what won't you get wrong and confuse people with
Dec 09 04:21:04 <oil> and their method example usage is for the textfield
Dec 09 04:21:05 <oil> xD
Dec 09 04:21:20 <oil> getValue() method doesn't exist in a scroller i dont think
Dec 09 04:21:27 <SineOt> lol
Dec 09 04:21:48 <SineOt> well at least I don't feel as stupid now, because I havent' been able to get this stupid thing working XD
Dec 09 04:22:29 <oil> it took me a while to get it to work my first time
Dec 09 04:22:41 <SineOt> I've got it scrolling, but it won't snap
Dec 09 04:22:51 <oil> mode is -snap
Dec 09 04:22:51 <oil> ?
Dec 09 04:23:09 <oil> and the array in the model is correctly all dom element objects?
Dec 09 04:23:25 <SineOt> yeah, one second
Dec 09 04:23:53 <oil> well, more then that, brb, food
Dec 09 04:24:18 <SineOt> hm, hhhhm
Dec 09 04:24:31 <SineOt> can you not get a DOMobject by the tag itself?
Dec 09 04:33:38 <haeffb_pre> wow, Tigers win in OT
Dec 09 04:38:11 <haeffb_pre> oil: nice
Dec 09 04:39:39 <SineOt> oil: thanks again for all the help <3
Dec 09 05:13:04 <CTLAdvance> thank god for hotel hot tubs
Dec 09 05:55:10 <pandora--> i forget what derek's irc name is
Dec 09 05:55:36 <pandora--> well, if you're here... you cracked me up on twitter just now :)
Dec 09 05:58:47 <SineOt> hmm... weird. If you scroll the scroller REALLY slowly, it won't snap
Dec 09 06:05:57 <torchie> wat
Dec 09 06:07:06 <CTLAdvance> pandora d kessler>
Dec 09 06:07:07 <CTLAdvance> ?
Dec 09 06:09:00 <pandora--> CTLAdvance: what?
Dec 09 06:09:46 <CTLAdvance> I think we need to start demanding that they implement propper canvas support
Dec 09 06:21:57 <torchie> javascript
Dec 09 06:21:58 <torchie> touch
Dec 09 06:22:00 <torchie> events
Dec 09 06:22:03 <torchie> also that canvas thingy yeah
Dec 09 06:22:25 <alexfner> no javascript touch events
Dec 09 06:22:27 <alexfner> I said NO!
Dec 09 06:33:33 <torchie> javascript touch events!!!!
Dec 09 06:33:36 <torchie> on the canvas!!!!
Dec 09 06:33:40 <torchie> drag and drop on the canvas
Dec 09 06:33:45 <torchie> drag and drop
Dec 09 06:33:47 <torchie> on the canvas
Dec 09 06:36:13 <solix> haiku? lol
Dec 09 06:36:57 <torchie> !?
Dec 09 06:37:22 <torchie> code javascript touch
Dec 09 06:38:03 <alexfner> torchie repeating stuff doesn't make it happen
Dec 09 06:38:03 <torchie> for the sake of cool web games
Dec 09 06:38:11 <torchie> drag and drop on it
Dec 09 06:38:12 <solix> haiku, a strange poetry... hehe
Dec 09 06:38:28 <alexfner> torchie: if you want touch events, go to iOS or android
Dec 09 06:38:33 <MetaView> hi
Dec 09 06:38:43 <alexfner> hello
Dec 09 06:38:48 <torchie> if you want ice water, go to hell
Dec 09 06:38:50 <torchie> :(
Dec 09 06:39:06 <solix> bleh.
Dec 09 06:39:48 <alexfner> I'm just saying, if you want to use touch events TODAY, you can dev on iOS or android, where that stuff works, and you'll have a much bigger audience to test on
Dec 09 06:40:38 <torchie> I don't want touch events today
Dec 09 06:40:42 <torchie> I want them yesterday
Dec 09 06:45:26 <pandora--> i want a Pre 3 yesterday
Dec 09 06:49:56 <torchie> where is the pre 3 with the sapphire casing and the unicorn tear coating that makes it never ever break ever
Dec 09 06:49:58 <torchie> EVER.
Dec 09 06:50:03 <torchie> EEEEEEVEEEEER.
Dec 09 07:00:59 <SineOt> so, since the Palm docs love to be wrong: autoFocus for text fields, what's the real value to get it to work? :V
Dec 09 07:11:05 <oil> to call element.mojo.focus() when you want it to be focused
Dec 09 07:12:08 <SineOt> I want it to be -not- focused
Dec 09 07:12:27 <SineOt> since it's stealing focus and shifting my scroller all the way to the end, instead of starting it at the start
Dec 09 07:13:19 <SineOt> but autoFocus: false doesn't really do anything, and putting $("div").mojo.blur() in activate won't actually blur it
Dec 09 07:14:36 * SineOt just gets rid of the text fields all together.
Dec 09 08:16:07 <SineOt> Hmm. Boxee Remote app: Fullscreen, or no?
Dec 09 08:42:09 <SineOt> scope and bindings really love to kick my ass
Dec 09 15:46:51 <Workenhaven> ugh
Dec 09 15:47:02 <Workenhaven> i wish people would tell me they're modifying my project before they do
Dec 09 15:47:35 <Workenhaven> subversion just bitched at me cause i don't have the most recent version cause someone messed with one of my classes when i tried to make a commit
Dec 09 15:57:53 <sugardave> cvs systems perplex me, but I think I like git
Dec 09 16:02:56 <Workenhaven> i like subversion
Dec 09 16:03:27 <Workenhaven> i just didn't expect anyone to mess with a project which i'm the only one that works on it, and that's finished
Dec 09 16:03:48 <Workenhaven> so now i'm waiting on his response on why he did what he did, cause i did a synch and diff to find what was changed
Dec 09 16:53:08 <codeslaw_> anyone familiar with the mozilla public license
Dec 09 17:26:53 <destinal> codeslaw_: a bit, why?
Dec 09 17:27:34 <codeslaw_> just trying to understand the implications
Dec 09 17:27:41 <torchie> implying implications
Dec 09 17:28:33 <destinal> codeslaw_: mozilla'
Dec 09 17:28:55 <destinal> codeslaw_: mozilla license is a little different take on open source license, each file is licensed individually
Dec 09 17:29:10 <codeslaw_> ok, so if i don't modify any of files under MPL
Dec 09 17:29:11 <destinal> so if you make changes you have to give out the code for the file you actually changed
Dec 09 17:29:28 <codeslaw_> but otherwise -- i don't have to give anything?
Dec 09 17:29:50 <destinal> codeslaw_ essentially, so if you put in glue code in an existing .c or .h, you distribute that but not what you glue on
Dec 09 17:30:10 <codeslaw_> roger that
Dec 09 17:30:58 <destinal> codeslaw_: of course hopefully you're into open sourcing your own changes anyway and want to make all the code available for further modifications?
Dec 09 17:31:01 * destinal says hopefully
Dec 09 17:31:28 <codeslaw_> actually yes, i am modifying  a library and i intend to contribute those modifications
Dec 09 17:31:29 <destinal> I think MPL did what they did to get more corporate acceptance
Dec 09 17:31:39 <codeslaw_> i was worried about having to release the REST of my source code under the same license
Dec 09 17:31:42 <destinal> to avoid the "viral" thing
Dec 09 17:43:01 <deliciousmorsel> my pre2 has problems
Dec 09 17:43:08 <deliciousmorsel> i've had to restore 4 times since i received it
Dec 09 17:43:09 <deliciousmorsel> last night
Dec 09 17:43:29 <deliciousmorsel> the 2.0.1 update botched it
Dec 09 17:43:33 <deliciousmorsel> then restore didn't work
Dec 09 17:43:37 <deliciousmorsel> then 2nd restore worked
Dec 09 17:43:51 <deliciousmorsel> then somehow classic was installed on 4.0.1??? so i ran it and my phone died
Dec 09 17:43:55 <deliciousmorsel> so i had to restore it again
Dec 09 17:46:03 <torchie> wut wut !!
Dec 09 19:42:25 <v0n> Hi !
Dec 09 19:42:41 <v0n> When will the 2.0 update available on my Pixi? :(
Dec 09 19:42:55 <v0n> (webOS I meant)
Dec 09 20:01:59 <techrush> v0n, nobody knows
Dec 09 20:19:13 <dawm> chuqui, any chance you got around to my email from last month (regarding oct. revenue)? i resent it the other day cause i seem to just miss you lately
Dec 09 20:22:01 <chuqui> dawm: joshua, right?
Dec 09 20:22:08 <dawm> yeh
Dec 09 20:22:40 <chuqui> still in my inbox. I'll answer it after lunch. been crunching through email all morning.
Dec 09 20:22:51 <dawm> okie dokie
Dec 09 20:22:55 <chuqui> "hey, chuq? what do you do for a living?" "hit reply"
Dec 09 20:23:31 <MetaView> interesting emails...
Dec 09 20:49:24 <keith> deliciousmorsel: ouch, that sucks.
Dec 09 20:54:25 <deliciousmorsel> it does :(
Dec 09 20:55:36 * DougReeder waves hello
Dec 09 21:00:08 <sugardave> anybody use a webview's saveViewToFile method?
Dec 09 21:00:24 <sugardave> I'm getting an error about: BrowserAdapter::saveViewToFile - Offscreen gfx surface null
Dec 09 21:01:01 <destinal-away> chuqui: hire someone and delegate the "reply" function.... :)
Dec 09 21:01:42 <destinal> they can have the job title of "Voice of Chuq"
Dec 09 21:01:53 <sugardave> heh
Dec 09 21:02:21 <destinal> I've heard Steve Jobs replies to his own mail but it's hard to believe
Dec 09 21:05:26 <DougReeder> some, but I'm sure somebody filters it for him.  Donald Knuth has no email.
Dec 09 21:09:36 <oil> if (newEmail) { newEmail.reply('No'); }
Dec 09 21:09:38 <oil> and done
Dec 09 21:09:51 <halfhalo> lol
Dec 09 21:10:05 <sugardave> nah, it needs a random to throw a "soon" in there every once in a while
Dec 09 21:11:58 <gkatsev> if (newEmail) { newEmail.reply(emailResponses[Math.random()*emailResponses.length]); }
Dec 09 21:12:45 <halfhalo> I'm pretty sure thats how oil does irc responses most of the time, but the array is only ["lol","hah"]
Dec 09 21:13:00 <oil> undefined
Dec 09 21:14:54 <sugardave> why is it so damn hard to copy a file from one spot in /media/internal to another?
Dec 09 21:15:03 <halfhalo> because it hates you?
Dec 09 21:15:06 <sugardave> I mean, I shouldn't really have to download this shit again
Dec 09 21:15:23 <halfhalo> novaterm ftw
Dec 09 21:15:35 <sugardave> no, I mean in an app
Dec 09 21:15:51 <halfhalo> oh... js/c service ftw
Dec 09 21:15:54 <gkatsev> mv /media/internal/path/to/file /path/to/new/location
Dec 09 21:16:06 <sugardave> gkatsev: see above ;)
Dec 09 21:16:18 <gkatsev> you are using the wrong app, clearly.
Dec 09 21:16:30 <sugardave> obviously, it's mine :D
Dec 09 21:17:28 <oil> hah
Dec 09 21:17:33 <sugardave> it's a wallpaper app, so app starts downloading all the slides in /media/internal/somedir/.hidden/somefile.jpg
Dec 09 21:18:12 <sugardave> there is an option to have it appear in photos, so that's another "download" unless I can figure out how to make a copy of somefile.jpg to /media/internal/somedir
Dec 09 21:18:15 <sugardave> how hard is that?
Dec 09 21:18:37 <sugardave> it's damn ridiculous, that's what
Dec 09 21:18:37 * DougReeder waves goodbye
Dec 09 21:21:33 <sugardave> I guess I could rely on the bug in webOS where you have to download twice in order to get it to show in Photos and use that as my 'hidden' dir
Dec 09 21:22:30 <oil> do people actually get wallpapers from an app and not just from the web?
Dec 09 21:22:39 <sugardave> this client thinks so
Dec 09 21:23:28 <oil> lol
Dec 09 21:23:44 <Rick_work> oil, Jen and I made an app that gets wallpapers from the app.
Dec 09 21:24:12 <Rick_work> they come _from_ the web, but the app talks to a server which custom creates them and then the server makes the custom wallpaper available, and dl's it.
Dec 09 21:24:26 <Rick_work> see "Tasty Weather Toons"
Dec 09 21:25:33 <sugardave> I'm just trying to come up with a caching system, basically...I want to download these things the first time the app starts, and then always load from the local copies, BUT not display in the photos app unless they explicitly "save" it from the app
Dec 09 21:26:38 <sugardave> and I basically have that, I can even get the wallpaper from the local files, but the save part sucks, because I can't just copy the damned file
Dec 09 21:27:16 <sugardave> and they're jpgs, so the webview resize trick won't work
Dec 09 21:32:01 <SineOt> will the download manager barf/complain if you feed it a local URL?
Dec 09 21:32:56 <sugardave> SineOt: yeah, it has to be remote
Dec 09 21:41:15 <SineOt> http://ditchnet.org/httpclient/ < Just found this, and man does it ever make dealing with APIs easier.
Dec 09 22:15:05 <SineOt> Ahaha. Boxee, the hell. Why ;_;
Dec 09 22:15:15 <SineOt> <html><li>100</html>
Dec 09 22:17:46 <halfhalo> Lol
Dec 09 22:18:33 <SineOt> Great planning on their API there.
Dec 09 23:10:25 <bhodder> hey surgardave anything new
Dec 09 23:12:49 <bhodder> any one workin on cross compiling kick
Dec 09 23:14:15 <Clipper87> kik*
Dec 09 23:17:41 <haeffb> SineOt: looks like a nice tool for those of you with MacOS
Dec 09 23:18:44 <bhodder> <haeffb> what tool is that?
Dec 09 23:19:05 <haeffb> SineOt: also, this.controller.setInitialFocusedElement(null); at the end of setup().
Dec 09 23:19:20 <haeffb> bhodder: http://ditchnet.org/httpclient/
Dec 09 23:21:11 <bhodder> haeffb: looks nice tobad I use linux
Dec 09 23:26:40 <rwhitby> haeffb: does it do https ?
Dec 09 23:28:00 <haeffb> I have no idea, I don't do OSX
Dec 09 23:28:27 <haeffb> I was just responding to something SineOt posted earlier
Dec 09 23:29:03 <haeffb> Nov app sales: meh.
Dec 09 23:29:42 <haeffb> but not completely dead
Dec 09 23:30:00 <SineOt> haeffb: I actually just gave up entirely on the text fields. P:
Dec 09 23:30:04 <SineOt> Solved a lot of problems.
Dec 09 23:30:42 <haeffb> true dat
Dec 09 23:31:36 <bhodder> that is true
Dec 09 23:33:30 <SineOt> rwhitby: do you have an HTTPS API I could test against?
Dec 09 23:33:37 <SineOt> I think it does https from fiddling with it.
Dec 09 23:34:05 <rwhitby> SineOt: I know palm has some https APIs ...
Dec 10 00:06:33 <SineOt> it's kind of annoying how documentation on a few styling things... Is better in Style Matters than it is on the actual developer pages
Dec 10 00:25:02 <halfhalo> ces emails!
Dec 10 00:37:13 <alexfner> whats the news?
Dec 10 00:38:11 * Tibfib is ordering pre2!
Dec 10 00:38:48 * Tibfib submat/submitted/
Dec 10 00:41:23 <bhodder> nm just got back on
Dec 10 00:42:47 <alexfner> any webOS NEWS?!? :D
Dec 10 00:43:20 <alexfner> like maybe, "next year is going to be exciting" or anything like that?
Dec 10 00:43:35 <alexfner> ya know, not the kind of stuff that's actual news
Dec 10 00:43:38 <SineOt> There's that bit from the supposed HP insider thing.
Dec 10 00:43:47 <SineOt> Hinting at a Pixi 2 release in the coming month.
Dec 10 00:44:00 <SineOt> And an aggressive new device every 2 month release afterwards.
Dec 10 00:44:15 <SineOt> (Which would fit with a tablet coming in the first part of 2011, along with other devices)
Dec 10 00:44:57 <Tibfib> every 2 months?
Dec 10 00:44:58 <alexfner> SineOt: I'm gonna guess you'll actually see a phone before the tablet
Dec 10 00:45:02 <Tibfib> shmeh
Dec 10 00:45:12 <alexfner> tablet will actually shit in march or early april
Dec 10 00:45:17 <alexfner> ...ship*
Dec 10 00:45:20 <Tibfib> lol
Dec 10 00:46:29 <SineOt> Yeah, but Pixi 2 next month + "new device" two months after puts the tablet at like... March :p
Dec 10 00:47:38 <SineOt> So yeah, you'd probably see a phone before the tablet
Dec 10 00:48:11 <SineOt> With the HP thing supposing to have said that it's the "smallest smartphone ever" it makes more sense with the whole Broadway reporting a nonuser changeable battery
Dec 10 00:49:16 <halfhalo> bah, small
Dec 10 00:51:39 <alexfner> HP = BUSINESS
Dec 10 00:51:48 <alexfner> or should I say, HP = ENTERPRISE
Dec 10 00:51:50 <bhodder> a new device every 2 months would be nice
Dec 10 00:52:51 <Tibfib> can you submit a 2.0 only app yet?
Dec 10 00:55:36 <alexfner> man
Dec 10 00:55:40 <alexfner> today wrote an application
Dec 10 00:55:52 <alexfner> the file space is shared across multiple domains
Dec 10 00:56:02 <alexfner> so I log into one domain and compile and start getting seg faults all over the place
Dec 10 00:56:08 <alexfner> spend an hour looking at code not finding problems
Dec 10 00:56:10 <alexfner> change domain
Dec 10 00:56:17 <alexfner> and run, no problems
Dec 10 00:56:22 <alexfner> *frustrating*
Dec 10 01:40:16 * halfhalo is going to stab hulu
Dec 10 01:43:57 <bhodder> alexfner: what are you working on
Dec 10 01:44:10 <alexfner> stuffssss
Dec 10 01:44:50 <bhodder> lol ok
Dec 10 02:16:06 <haeffb> this is not good:  http://haeffb.com
Dec 10 02:16:18 <halfhalo> ?
Dec 10 02:16:20 <halfhalo> what did you do?
Dec 10 02:16:24 <haeffb> I did nothing.
Dec 10 02:16:41 <sugardave> you're famous and a victim of domain-squatting
Dec 10 02:16:43 <sugardave> sic 'em
Dec 10 02:16:47 * haeffb suspects server problems on the host
Dec 10 02:16:55 <haeffb> no, that's my domain.
Dec 10 02:16:56 <sugardave> oh, that's you
Dec 10 02:17:01 * halfhalo knows there are problems
Dec 10 02:17:09 <halfhalo> first, its being served by php/apache
Dec 10 02:17:15 <sugardave> I think there might be a server error
Dec 10 02:17:28 <haeffb> they've lost my files...
Dec 10 02:17:35 <halfhalo> ouch...
Dec 10 02:17:37 * haeffb wishes he had a backup
Dec 10 02:18:05 <haeffb> more recent than 11/6/2010
Dec 10 02:18:43 * haeffb waiting to hear back from host support
Dec 10 02:18:47 <sugardave> hmm, they might have one more recent
Dec 10 02:19:21 <haeffb> hopefully
Dec 10 02:19:48 <haeffb> last modified file is 11/24/2010 on their server. I know files were modified since then.
Dec 10 02:19:53 <haeffb> sigh.
Dec 10 02:19:59 <sugardave> lame
Dec 10 02:20:47 <haeffb> so what... server crashed & they restored an old backup?
Dec 10 02:21:22 <halfhalo> mebe
Dec 10 02:24:17 <oil> that sux haeffb
Dec 10 02:27:12 <sugardave> haeffb: that's probably what happened
Dec 10 02:28:59 * oil has actually had that happen before
Dec 10 02:29:06 <oil> (host restoring an old backup that is)
Dec 10 02:29:15 <haeffb> stoopid
Dec 10 02:29:23 * haeffb stoopid
Dec 10 02:35:06 <Loudergood> geez...we run backups daily on our server...
Dec 10 02:35:30 * Loudergood is also horrified that noone that works there now has every actually tried to recover something from that backup
Dec 10 02:55:23 <Tibfib> shoot, is there a way to get a scroller to be free, but when it stops scrolling to stop in a snap...?
Dec 10 02:55:54 <Tibfib> I might be able to do it myself with a model changed, but that might be too intensive
Dec 10 02:56:34 <oil> Tibfib: if you figure it out, let me know :)
Dec 10 02:56:48 <Tibfib> heh
Dec 10 02:57:13 <oil> i tried before, but not very hard
Dec 10 02:57:14 <hlfhlo> ok, I could literally walk the packets of this thing faster than its changing dns servers... stupid website
Dec 10 02:58:19 <oil> would certainly use it in xblfriends
Dec 10 02:58:22 <Tibfib> there's not an event to signify the "end" of a scroll
Dec 10 02:58:51 <oil> probably is internally to the widget
Dec 10 02:59:36 * Tibfib check
Dec 10 02:59:37 <Tibfib> s
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