**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 10 02:59:57 2010 Dec 10 03:01:41 lol, there's a variable in the scroller called this.whinedAboutException Dec 10 03:01:51 haha Dec 10 03:13:15 host support is looking at backups... Dec 10 03:16:19 what is this... https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1929&Itemid=307#.createThreshholder Dec 10 03:16:23 it's not a public method Dec 10 03:17:17 * Tibfib will just go to the sub par snap Dec 10 03:54:27 host support is no help. They say it's a problem on my end. Dec 10 03:54:36 could it be? Dec 10 04:02:38 yeah it doesn't work now that they rolled back half your files Dec 10 04:02:51 servers back up though Dec 10 04:19:05 it could be time to change hosts Dec 10 04:26:57 probably. it's one thing if they fuck something up..a whole other thing if they're not honest about it Dec 10 04:32:09 * halfhalo votes linode Dec 10 04:58:20 woo-flippity-hoo! Dec 10 04:58:22 fixed! Dec 10 04:58:37 and it WAS my bad. Dec 10 05:02:43 lol Dec 10 05:03:26 sorta. Dec 10 05:03:38 relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H8HnaTIcmk Dec 10 05:03:45 * haeffb didn't even know there was a limit Dec 10 05:03:49 :) Dec 10 05:03:53 the tmp folder was full Dec 10 05:04:13 hah Dec 10 05:05:42 Hey looks its Adora Dec 10 05:05:59 Hey looks its CTLAdvance Dec 10 05:06:15 How are you doing this evening Dec 10 05:06:42 hey look it's CTLAdvance looking at Adora looking at CTLAdvance Dec 10 05:06:52 I am quite fine how are you doing this evening Dec 10 05:07:01 I am doing well thanks Dec 10 05:07:25 did you see the email from Mr. D Dec 10 05:07:29 * haeffb wonders how a tmp folder could get full on a hosting account with unlimited space... Dec 10 05:07:45 its unlimited like unlimited data plans for phones Dec 10 05:07:50 which means 5 gigs Dec 10 05:08:02 :p Dec 10 05:08:15 * halfhalo has 12geebees Dec 10 05:08:20 "unlimited" up to an arbitrarily defined limit Dec 10 05:08:23 or 16, can't remember Dec 10 05:08:23 been having email probs, let me try again Dec 10 05:08:34 OIC Dec 10 05:08:50 Huh. Palm button. Image displayed as the content. Impossible? D: Dec 10 05:10:26 * haeffb considers paying an extra $25 per year for daily backup... Dec 10 05:11:03 sounds worth it Dec 10 05:11:04 CTLAdvance: I got nothin Dec 10 05:11:13 * haeffb then realizes that host support offered to restore from today's backup before finding the space issue Dec 10 05:11:19 bah Dec 10 05:11:21 so...they're doing it already. Dec 10 05:11:38 * haeffb saves $25 Dec 10 05:11:48 lol Dec 10 05:11:53 * CTLAdvance slaps adoras email admin with a large trout Dec 10 05:12:11 did you send it in the last few hours? Dec 10 05:12:20 not from me from him Dec 10 05:12:28 s/you/he Dec 10 05:12:32 palm email servers overloaded by the awesomeness of supercowpowers? Dec 10 05:12:40 5:40PM EST Dec 10 05:12:42 oil: hahahahaha Dec 10 05:13:04 everyone's trying it and bringing the servers down Dec 10 05:13:19 haha Dec 10 05:13:23 dundunDUN!!!! Dec 10 05:13:26 do that many people actually own a pre 2? Dec 10 05:13:37 :-| Dec 10 05:13:48 CTLAdvance: wait, which "Mr. D" are you referring to? Dec 10 05:13:49 almost every palm employee i saw at devdays was using one Dec 10 05:13:58 several devs hundred from dev day Dec 10 05:14:08 hundred devs Dec 10 05:14:09 Derek Dec 10 05:14:27 lol, rod must be sending alot of mails then Dec 10 05:14:32 rwhitby has like 500 himself Dec 10 05:14:39 I am sure he does Dec 10 05:14:47 He should make them into a cluster Dec 10 05:14:50 * oil thinks his pre2 total is 3 Dec 10 05:14:55 maybe 2? Dec 10 05:15:01 main + dev Dec 10 05:15:23 CTLAdvance: I'm drawing a blank. Re-send? Dec 10 05:15:49 sent Dec 10 05:16:49 wait Dec 10 05:16:52 it rejected Dec 10 05:16:54 you know what Dec 10 05:17:02 I bet you didnt get it because its to large Dec 10 05:17:10 15mb total Dec 10 05:17:24 it's a constant struggle to keep my inbox under the exchange limit Dec 10 05:17:31 lrbrew@gmail.com Dec 10 05:17:37 I cant even send it Dec 10 05:17:43 ill need to break it down Dec 10 05:17:45 :p Dec 10 05:20:34 OK I resent one of them Dec 10 05:20:35 to palm Dec 10 05:21:31 oil: 2 Dec 10 05:21:46 one of each P102UEU and P102UNA Dec 10 05:22:50 * haeffb wishes the Pre2 would have been released on Sprint back in June. Dec 10 05:23:43 I may need to get a third if oil doesn't get a Torx 5 screwdriver quick enough ... Dec 10 05:23:52 lol Dec 10 05:23:56 * halfhalo has one Dec 10 05:24:04 Got it at lowes for like 2 bucks Dec 10 05:24:26 heh, Lowes is a mens clothing store where I come from Dec 10 05:25:14 lol Dec 10 05:26:34 does anyone here live around the bay area? Dec 10 05:36:46 rwhitby: Estimated Arrival: December 14, 2010 Dec 10 05:37:30 oil: so much for fedex overnight Dec 10 05:37:42 thats for the screwdriver Dec 10 05:37:46 fedex suuucks Dec 10 05:37:52 lol Dec 10 05:38:02 oh, you didn't get fedex overnight for the screwdriver? Dec 10 05:38:18 no, lol Dec 10 05:38:21 or, you know, drive to lowes or home depot or osh or ace hardware? Dec 10 05:38:26 i did whatever the free option was Dec 10 05:38:35 i dont think the pre2 has shipped yet Dec 10 05:38:48 though ill probably use my devdays pre2 for the swap Dec 10 05:38:57 sprint swap? Dec 10 05:39:17 thats the plan Dec 10 05:39:23 * halfhalo wants to try that Dec 10 05:40:44 hmm Dec 10 05:40:50 you guys with your crazy swaps Dec 10 05:41:01 considering i already did the swap to the plus, I could just use the vzw pre board since its not actually assembled Dec 10 05:42:16 * halfhalo will do it as soon as its proven sucessful since then he will buy a pre2 for it Dec 10 05:43:10 if you're going to go through with the swap why not just switch carriers? Dec 10 05:43:27 I think it's a legitimate question, just wondering Dec 10 05:43:31 so, at&t or tmo? Dec 10 05:43:34 * oil passes Dec 10 05:43:40 don't really have the kind of money to burn hardware Dec 10 05:43:48 * halfhalo has an att sim to use if needed Dec 10 05:43:55 devdays pre2 was fre Dec 10 05:43:57 free* Dec 10 05:44:08 new dev pre2 was also free, thanks to webosinternals Dec 10 05:44:38 * oil doesnt have money to burn on a ETF to switch carriers Dec 10 05:44:42 did we get it to work with our old profiles yet Dec 10 05:44:45 nor do I wish to go att or tmo Dec 10 05:44:47 and by me I am wondering you Dec 10 05:44:54 * halfhalo would go to tmo if he could Dec 10 05:45:02 tmo sucks here Dec 10 05:45:08 and at&t sucks everywhere Dec 10 05:45:22 tmo is the only company that gets service at my house Dec 10 05:45:46 sprint works everywhere i use it here Dec 10 05:45:55 oil where are you located Dec 10 05:45:57 has anyone ever tried to stick an image inside a mojo button? Dec 10 05:45:59 sprint works not at my house Dec 10 05:46:03 washington state Dec 10 05:46:07 mm Dec 10 05:46:24 Sprint will give tower for free if service sucks in your house Dec 10 05:46:39 I have an airave at home Dec 10 05:46:46 i get perfect signal at home Dec 10 05:47:15 my service is 100 in one side of the house and 0 on the other... Dec 10 05:47:17 :/ Dec 10 05:47:30 airave balances it out Dec 10 05:48:34 uugh need to leave for airport in 3 hours :/ Dec 10 05:49:48 How is the com swap sprint pre 2 working for you ? Dec 10 05:49:53 any good Dec 10 05:53:43 CTLAdvance: which airport? Are we on the same flight by any chance? Dec 10 05:53:56 MKE Dec 10 05:54:21 Flying out of wisconsin back home Dec 10 05:55:16 CTLAdvance: haven't done it yet Dec 10 05:57:10 ah I see Dec 10 06:16:25 Has anyone used a scroller with horizontal snap elements... And noticed that it won't snap on the first scroll? D:< Dec 10 06:17:43 SineOt: you could probably get an image in a button Dec 10 06:18:09 sugardave: already gave up and went with overly complicated CSS background layering Dec 10 06:18:20 ah Dec 10 06:18:21 good plan Dec 10 06:18:41 and I have seen what you are talking about with horiz scrollers Dec 10 06:19:11 I'm thinking of trying to set the snapIndex in the scene's set up... See if it will get it to lock on the first scroll since it will have already "moved" Dec 10 06:19:19 I think I "fixed" it by setting a the snapIndex to 1 and then scrolling it to 0 Dec 10 06:19:34 That was probably going to be attempt two :] Dec 10 06:19:42 Now just need to find a way to visually indicate which index you're on Dec 10 06:19:50 progress bar Dec 10 06:19:57 unless you want the number Dec 10 06:20:05 Ehhh wouldn't really fit with the rest of the app. Dec 10 06:20:14 I was thinking of trying to do iOS style dots. Dec 10 06:20:14 it's small and tiny Dec 10 06:20:16 not the pill Dec 10 06:20:26 yeah, I know :] Dec 10 06:20:29 like the one under the spinner in preware when it's updating feeds Dec 10 06:20:35 okay Dec 10 06:20:38 hmm Dec 10 06:20:45 well, I might try that anyways if I can't get dots to work Dec 10 06:21:10 I've already got basically custom buttons for everything and it's full screen so I'm hesitant to toss in random mojo styled stuff Dec 10 06:22:10 preware "little progress pill" is easy Dec 10 06:22:30 it awesomely resizes nice, too Dec 10 06:22:47 resizes? Dec 10 06:23:09 I mean it fits the whole thing in whatever size div you give it Dec 10 06:23:22 oh Dec 10 06:23:27 lol, i've only used it in the one spot xD Dec 10 06:23:28 it doesn't look stupid if it's too small, in other words Dec 10 06:24:00 I used one as a progress indicator for flash cards, and it's about 25% of the screen width Dec 10 06:25:25 ugh, another annoying boxee thing: they don't list the licensing terms for using their logo anywhere that I can find Dec 10 06:26:45 shoot em an email Dec 10 06:28:58 * SineOt does so Dec 10 06:32:50 worse they can say is "no you can't use it, go away" Dec 10 06:32:51 lol Dec 10 06:33:19 or not responding at all and keeping you in limbo Dec 10 06:33:27 :/ Dec 10 06:34:22 yeah they have a blanket clause buried in the dev wiki about it... and it's ultra vague Dec 10 06:35:19 "Any use of the Boxee Trademarks in Your Application shall be less prominent than the logo or mark that primarily describes the Your Application." I just love this one though, because if I name it Boxee Remote (which it is) would that be... More prominent? :I Dec 10 06:36:16 * SineOt goes to watch Community Dec 10 06:36:21 maybe "less" means "not more than" so equal billing would be alright Dec 10 06:36:29 * oil is not a lawyer Dec 10 06:36:33 me neither Dec 10 06:36:48 less means less than equal I'm afraid Dec 10 06:37:11 So if I added another word... It'd be one trademark against two non trademarks? :V Dec 10 06:37:20 "Sweet Boxee Remote" Dec 10 06:37:25 lol Dec 10 06:37:47 rwhitby: dammit Dec 10 07:16:49 http://ruddersquish.com/screenshots/BoxeeRemoteNavigation.png Dec 10 07:23:45 what platform is that for? Dec 10 07:24:07 * oil guesses webos Dec 10 07:24:39 HAHA webOS doesn't have apps like that! Dec 10 07:24:56 * alexfner nudges oil for the quality of the joke Dec 10 07:25:43 * oil doesn't get it Dec 10 07:33:06 * alexfner neither does alexfner Dec 10 07:35:25 :T Dec 10 07:36:08 looks good sine :) Dec 10 07:38:04 thanks Dec 10 07:45:21 I've never really designed buttons... I think they look good :p Dec 10 07:50:48 sugardave: setting it to adjust the snap index to the other and then back... Fixes the weird scroll issue. Dec 10 08:13:06 or not Dec 10 08:18:38 * mugen- watches paint dry Dec 10 08:26:12 Urghhh... Maybe trying to do this at 12:30 in the morning isn't the best idea. Dec 10 09:19:06 hi...is it possible to send a shift key event in a normal mojo app to select text without pressing the shift key on the keyboard? Dec 10 14:35:49 morning, all Dec 10 14:36:42 morning hattCzech Dec 10 14:37:55 Hello Dec 10 14:41:42 been working on lots latly HattCzech? Dec 10 14:57:41 unfortunately, yes Dec 10 14:58:02 the lots does not include webos, which is the unfortunate part Dec 10 15:01:19 ahhh ya I understand, haven't had a whole lot a time the last bit for webos either Dec 10 15:04:42 i do need to update my apps to prepare for 2.0 Dec 10 15:04:47 so i need to do that soon Dec 10 15:06:10 ya that's true Dec 10 15:06:36 do you know if anyone is working on kik for webos Dec 10 15:16:19 i have no idea what kik is Dec 10 15:16:25 so i would guess no? Dec 10 15:17:14 its a messaging program Dec 10 15:17:53 Good Morning Dec 10 15:18:21 morning Dec 10 15:19:27 I'm getting "Error: cannot call method 'noticeAddedItems' of undefined, line undefined, file undefined" when I try to add items to my list. Anyone have experience with this type of error? Dec 10 15:20:53 is the source file included in the json file? Dec 10 15:21:43 The assistant file is but not the itemTemplate.html. Does that need to be included? Dec 10 15:22:07 no, just the js files Dec 10 15:23:03 The assistant works perfectly fine except for adding stuff to the list. The list shows up and the rest of the scene works fine. It just barfs at that line where I add stuff to the list. Dec 10 15:29:06 how are you adding things? Dec 10 15:30:59 this.controller.get("recentList").mojo.noticeAddedItems(0, [{ title: "testing" }]); Dec 10 15:31:47 That line works perfectly fine in my other app that I copied it from. The only difference is the id name Dec 10 15:41:18 brb Dec 10 16:02:08 haeffb: i second your retweet Dec 10 16:04:35 hello Dec 10 16:08:01 yo Dec 10 16:14:01 morning Dec 10 16:16:31 anywone willing to test a small update to a little solitaire ? Dec 10 16:21:15 I would, but I'm tapped out trying to finish this project Dec 10 16:21:29 alright Dec 10 16:31:02 warpdesign__: what is it? Dec 10 20:05:11 Afternoon! Dec 10 20:05:46 afternoon Dec 10 20:05:51 hows wis? Dec 10 20:06:48 Im back in NY now Dec 10 20:07:01 Wisconsin was really really really cold Dec 10 20:07:33 Weren't you traveling somewhere? Dec 10 20:13:46 where is NY? Dec 10 20:14:03 naw I will be traveling in a week or so, once the semester ends Dec 10 20:18:23 hiho Dec 10 20:19:36 Ah I see Dec 10 20:19:50 I am in Albany Dec 10 20:21:36 CTLAdvance: what for? Dec 10 20:21:45 I live here Dec 10 20:21:55 no way! Dec 10 20:21:55 was in wisconsin on business Dec 10 20:22:12 does gravity really run in reverse in Albany? Dec 10 20:22:15 I'm from Buffalo Dec 10 20:22:23 originally Dec 10 20:22:38 nice, albany is .... different Dec 10 20:23:01 Time and Space in albany is processed faster Dec 10 20:23:14 not sure about gravity Dec 10 20:26:18 damn, this typo silently fails: this.controller.modelChange(...); Dec 10 20:35:03 Am I right with the assumption, that i can't call the FilePicker from a PDK app? Dec 10 20:35:32 hey MetaView, what's new Dec 10 20:37:12 have a good weekend, all Dec 10 20:38:22 bhodder: working on AutoLevel for ImageWorker... Dec 10 20:39:05 ohhh nice, hows that going Dec 10 20:46:42 min/max brithness adjustment works Dec 10 20:48:04 with the gamma correction, I'm not sure yet :) Dec 10 20:49:39 Hodder go on gtalk I gotta ask ya something Dec 10 21:04:19 MetaView is making image editing app? Dec 10 21:05:23 yes, ImageWorker in beta catalog Dec 10 21:05:41 is a bit limited because of pure PDK Dec 10 21:05:57 * oil had been thinking about making one hybrid-style Dec 10 21:05:57 but the next version will have a slightly more appealing UI Dec 10 21:06:12 yes, it's what I do when 2.0 is allowed Dec 10 21:06:13 with c doing the processing, and js for ui Dec 10 21:06:21 and actually arrives for me :) Dec 10 21:06:33 * CTLAdvance thinks pdk would not be required if we had FULL CANVAS IMPLEMENTATION!!!!!!!!!!!! Dec 10 21:06:34 ARG Dec 10 21:06:56 idk Dec 10 21:07:01 pdk is faster, maybe Dec 10 21:07:12 * oil bets per-pixel manipulation is probably faster in c then js Dec 10 21:07:24 * oil has nothing to back up the assumption Dec 10 21:07:28 well written JS should do just fine, maybe throw in a node service Dec 10 21:07:31 of some sort Dec 10 21:07:51 * CTLAdvance has nothing to back up his js vs c statement either :/ Dec 10 21:08:06 * oil has done a lot of image manipulation with php though Dec 10 21:08:15 using gd Dec 10 21:08:18 * halfhalo has as well Dec 10 21:08:21 * CTLAdvance has done a bunch of it in HTML5 Canvas, but not with C Dec 10 21:08:41 * halfhalo had .png mapped to php on his old webserver Dec 10 21:08:51 ok, then anyone has a good idea for autolevels? Dec 10 21:11:48 nope :/ Dec 10 21:13:37 ok Dec 10 21:17:10 CTLAdvance: canvas rendering is not hardware accelerated, and image pixel manipulation can be mind bogglingly slow Dec 10 21:17:49 Is there a list of what they are supporting yet Dec 10 21:17:51 not to mention the crappy canvas support in webos Dec 10 21:17:56 make me :( Dec 10 21:18:02 CTLAdvance: not to mention that pixel manipulation will block Dec 10 21:18:11 so the user will be like "WTF BOMB" Dec 10 21:18:17 and then the program will respond again Dec 10 21:18:34 would be nice if we had web workers, you could offload the pixel manipulation to another thread Dec 10 21:18:41 I think thats a harware issue with th epre 1's Dec 10 21:18:54 I suspect the pre 2 will not be as badly effected Dec 10 21:19:00 badly effected by what Dec 10 21:19:16 pixel manipulations Dec 10 21:19:29 oh I mean it's just a really long array Dec 10 21:19:34 that you have to address Dec 10 21:19:43 * CTLAdvance rolls out a huge roll of aluminum foil.... waits for Adora to pounce on it Dec 10 21:19:49 the photos are quite large Dec 10 21:19:58 there are ways of making it faster, like storing a reference to the canvas Dec 10 21:20:02 but it is still a slow process Dec 10 21:20:20 we would need something like web workers for me to see the sense in it Dec 10 21:20:24 on my app the image selection is the slowest Dec 10 21:20:34 we need a way to add threads to JS applications Dec 10 21:20:37 would like to use the PhotoPicker Dec 10 21:20:44 CTLAdvance: yeah that's web workers :) Dec 10 21:20:56 whats web workers? Dec 10 21:21:05 CTLAdvance: threaded JS Dec 10 21:21:14 orly Dec 10 21:21:21 * CTLAdvance bings it! Dec 10 21:22:08 have we tried this in webOS yet? Dec 10 21:22:15 it is not supported Dec 10 21:22:20 bah Dec 10 21:22:24 * oil really, really hopes people don't succumb to microsofts advertising campaign for "bing it" Dec 10 21:22:33 the fallback behavior is that web workers will just run in the same thread Dec 10 21:22:34 if i hear someone say that i real life, im going to slap them Dec 10 21:22:42 * CTLAdvance really really is pushing people to use bing Dec 10 21:22:45 so you can end up blocking the hell out of your code Dec 10 21:22:47 * halfhalo has a new goal Dec 10 21:22:54 * halfhalo uses bing for maps and that stuff Dec 10 21:22:57 if you slap me, get ready to get knifed Dec 10 21:22:58 CTLAdvance: do you work for them? Dec 10 21:23:02 no Dec 10 21:23:13 CTLAdvance: then why are you providing free marketing for them? Dec 10 21:23:23 * oil lols @ CTLAdvance bringing a knife to a gun fight Dec 10 21:23:27 bings map api using ajax is really sweet Dec 10 21:23:50 ms is using OSM maps Dec 10 21:24:49 my autolevels works very nice for very dark pictures Dec 10 21:25:06 yay? Dec 10 21:25:08 but does almost nothing for normal ones.. Dec 10 21:25:12 lol Dec 10 21:25:26 man the day when we get webSocket apis, that'll be the day that I scream Dec 10 21:26:09 you can use ajax for image file uploads, right? Dec 10 21:26:21 right Dec 10 21:26:22 * oil assumes hp/palm will continue to update webkit in webos with newest stuff Dec 10 21:26:56 oil: yeah but the future of websockets is uncertain after the illicit use discovery :( Dec 10 21:27:25 what was it about? Dec 10 21:27:31 i doubt they'll jump on that kind of stuff Dec 10 21:27:50 (things that make the phone insecure, that is) Dec 10 21:28:27 you can overwrite local cache files through bad proxies and websockets Dec 10 21:28:31 something along those lines Dec 10 21:28:39 cache files from other domains Dec 10 21:30:20 ok Dec 10 21:45:02 hmm, why would my set snap index function only work sometimes? but in the exact same situation Dec 10 21:45:33 I had the same Dec 10 21:45:50 frantid fixed it for UberCalendar, maybe you check the patch file Dec 10 21:45:58 okay sweet Dec 10 21:45:59 thanks Dec 10 21:49:08 Adora ping Dec 10 21:53:14 MetaView: did he change to snapIndex? or did you change to scrollTo? Dec 10 22:00:48 I guess he changed snap index Dec 10 22:01:09 it is used in the month-calendar-based day picker Dec 10 22:02:00 he changed to snap index? Dec 10 22:02:35 I added snap index but it didn#t worked always, mostly it only worked after some time Dec 10 22:02:51 he then fixed it, I don't know how, I haven't checked the code Dec 10 22:03:14 I just have to versions of it.. I can't remember which one was the latest :) Dec 10 22:03:19 two* Dec 10 22:03:50 the precentral thread has the latest attached Dec 10 22:06:11 oh, I just went to the preware feeds Dec 10 22:06:42 * Tibfib ended up doing both scrollTo and setSnapIndex Dec 10 22:06:46 seems to work everytime Dec 10 22:09:11 but does it work when the use flicks through the list? Dec 10 22:11:25 I have a problem on setting the background color of a horizontal scrollable scene: outside of the initially visible part the background color has no effect. Any ideas? Dec 10 22:15:26 Hi everybody! Dec 10 22:15:26 Just a stupid question: I have to write a small app that connects with another device and should receive and display a message via bluetooth. Is that complicated to do? :) Dec 10 22:16:08 is there Bluetooth support for apps in webOS!? Dec 10 22:16:14 I don't think so Dec 10 22:16:38 there shall be in 2.0 Dec 10 22:16:45 but don't know for sure Dec 10 22:16:54 SDK or PDK? Dec 10 22:18:40 woo 2.0 Dec 10 22:18:50 come to me 2.0 before my pre dies Dec 10 22:41:01 That sounds strange because there is a "bluetooth" app in the menu :( Dec 10 22:43:13 bluetooth is available on a pre, just no apis Dec 10 22:43:49 the bt menu on Pre 1 is for bt headsets Dec 10 22:44:59 * MetaView finshed ImageWorker beta update Dec 10 22:45:16 i Dec 10 22:45:52 MetaView: what's imageworker? Dec 10 22:48:48 a local image processing app Dec 10 22:48:49 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=de.metaviewsoft.printimage Dec 10 22:49:06 it just takes ages to upload Dec 10 22:49:15 upload to palm Dec 10 22:50:18 oh, nice Dec 10 22:52:28 How can I make a ViewMenu looking like the calendar's one? (http://developer.palm.com/download/attachments/42216539/viewMenu.jpg) - So that there's a box where a popup menu appears when it was tapped? Dec 10 22:52:55 Do you think it is possible to do it my myself by installing a bt lib such as libbluez and writing a C app with the PDK? Dec 10 22:53:23 pcworld: should be explained somewhere on webos101.com Dec 10 22:53:44 v0n: IIRC, it's not possible Dec 10 22:54:31 upload done, I'm off, g'night Dec 10 22:55:33 MetaView, What IIRC means? Why do you think that's not possible? Dec 10 22:56:15 pcworld: look at the calender src code, it is just an image with some css Dec 10 22:59:15 Tibfib: I'll try that Dec 10 22:59:42 pcworld: the messaging app uses it too I believe Dec 10 23:02:47 is it a ViewMenu or a header? I don't find anything with "viewmenu" in the calendar's controller folder Dec 10 23:05:04 look at the html Dec 10 23:06:28 pcworld: it's a header Dec 10 23:06:46 and an image in a div Dec 10 23:06:53 and a listener on taps on the div Dec 10 23:07:03 or something like that Dec 10 23:10:05 Thank you, I have it, but looks complicated - I'll try it on a different way Dec 10 23:52:32 v0n: if i recall == IIRC Dec 10 23:54:51 correctly Dec 10 23:55:49 thanks Dec 10 23:56:34 I don't understand why openssh isn't in the standard ipkg list (I mean from command line) but is present in Preware. Dec 10 23:56:52 Is that because of the packages source lists? Dec 10 23:57:37 v0n: what are you referring to (and you should be asking this in #webos-internals) Dec 10 23:58:18 rwhitby, ok nice, I'll join this chan so Dec 11 00:13:51 ello guys Dec 11 00:33:43 NEWS FLASH: If you're in the early access program, there's an early Christmas present waiting for you in the forum... Dec 11 00:35:49 wooot woot Dec 11 00:36:16 and buried in the "highlights" is a cool new feature in the emulator... Dec 11 00:44:08 lemketron: nicely done Dec 11 00:47:12 nite. Dec 11 00:49:08 * halfhalo would buy lemketron a beer if he could Dec 11 00:54:42 I didn't actually implement this particular improvement, but helped debug it and get it into the build. But thanks. I know people have been wanting it for a long time. Dec 11 00:55:04 I think the notes forgot to mention that it works in most apps (browser, photos, etc.) but not necessarily Maps (for reasons I don't yet understand). Dec 11 00:56:20 that does sound quite frustrating Dec 11 01:24:59 [[UIApplication sharedApplication] openURL:[NSURL URLWithString:@"http://www.apple.com"]]; Dec 11 01:25:06 but I want to open up the clock... Dec 11 01:26:56 wrong channel -_- Dec 11 01:29:59 lol Dec 11 02:45:12 * Tibfib invites all with something new to type, and then backspace it all. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 11 02:59:57 2010