**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 12 02:59:58 2010 Dec 12 02:59:59 * SineOt gets lost trying to determine how to do text input support. HRM. Dec 12 03:06:52 Hey Dec 12 03:07:00 hi Dec 12 03:07:20 Anyone selling a Palm Pre Plus? Dec 12 03:07:28 I need one cheap for development.... Dec 12 03:07:46 and Palm isnt giving them away anymore. I came 2 days late. :( Dec 12 03:09:34 ..? Dec 12 03:11:53 people are occasionally finding cheap pixis, but I don't think you'll see a lot of pre pluses for sale until the pre2 really becomes available in the US Dec 12 03:12:20 Hmm...A Pixi is fine. Dec 12 03:12:23 now off to find one Dec 12 03:24:05 hm, has anyone used keyup/keydown/keypress... To capture stuff like 6? Dec 12 03:24:12 It seems like it's going to be impossible. :p Dec 12 03:59:36 bah, keys, what have they ever done for me Dec 12 04:25:43 * SineOt ponders easy ways to visually explain skipping 30 seconds on a button Dec 12 04:41:13 (>>30>>) | (>>30) Dec 12 04:44:31 (+30s) Dec 12 04:48:14 that's a good one Dec 12 05:02:02 arg. you can't specify "2.0.0" as the minimum version for apps yet. Dec 12 05:57:19 Ahah. ;_; Dec 12 05:57:31 getState() on a scroller... Returns that it is, in fact, an object. Dec 12 05:58:54 [object Object] omg so useful D:< Dec 12 06:04:07 Ugh. Anyone, any ideas how to reliably get the current snapIndex on a scroller? Dec 12 06:04:16 log(Object.toJSON(getState())); Dec 12 06:04:28 SineOt: I compute it.. Dec 12 06:04:43 but that only works if you have a set width to every item Dec 12 06:04:51 or height Dec 12 06:05:45 I do. I was looking at getScrollerPosition but it seems to return different values depending on where I start the scroll from Dec 12 06:07:01 Each segment is a set size, one screen wide... Since I'm going horizontal Dec 12 06:10:42 Hm, some Tibfib: you calculate where the scroller ends up based on the length of the scroll? Dec 12 06:12:38 I look at (Math.abs(parseInt(scroller.mojo.getState().left))/lengthOfOneItem should give you the index Dec 12 06:13:43 ignore the badly formed english. Dec 12 07:08:52 Man, I think I just time travelled. Dec 12 07:12:48 * SineOt ponders putting scrollers in scrollers. He heard you liked scrollers so he put scrollers in your scrollers... @_@ Dec 12 17:07:06 hi ll Dec 12 17:35:25 hi Dec 12 17:35:45 anyone wants to answer a ares list widget question ? Dec 12 19:39:36 hi, i just want to play a sound once in my app Dec 12 19:39:37 http://paste.balbinus.org/737 Dec 12 19:39:45 is that the right way to do it ? Dec 12 19:44:48 hi Dec 12 19:45:13 can't help you with that, i have 0 exp with the audio api =( Dec 12 19:46:45 * DougReeder waves hello Dec 12 19:47:34 greetings Dec 12 19:52:03 loic_m: does it work? then it is the correct way. Dec 12 19:52:19 mouarf, i had a typo Dec 12 19:52:25 now works good :) Dec 12 20:39:36 Tibfib: got it working today! :) thx for help yesterday. Dec 12 20:45:05 is there a way to activate airplane mode within and app ? Dec 12 20:47:09 yes, as Homebrew app Dec 12 20:47:21 check out BatterySafer Dec 12 20:50:21 so it does not work for "classic" apps i guess ? Dec 12 20:51:50 right, it#s a private API Dec 12 20:52:23 * MetaView is uploading Image Worker Pro... Dec 12 20:53:31 indeed i found the source code for Battery Saver Dec 12 20:53:41 cool, and? Dec 12 20:54:05 but for now i would like to keep my work as a classic app Dec 12 20:54:32 activating airplane mode is not mandatory Dec 12 20:54:33 "The IPK file you uploaded contains content that is not yet allowed." what does it mean? Dec 12 21:00:23 you compiled under an SDK that isn't publicly available Dec 12 21:00:28 or packaged* Dec 12 21:01:05 right, right, found a forum's thread :) Dec 12 21:01:17 --use-v1-format does the trick Dec 12 21:17:44 * hotdp don't understand why 2.0 is early access when he has a phone with 2.0 Dec 12 21:19:00 you are an early accesser :) Dec 12 21:19:26 * hotdp can't commit 2.0 Dec 12 21:19:35 or is it open now? Dec 12 21:19:42 nope Dec 12 21:19:49 not as far as I know Dec 12 21:32:16 strange response after Beta update: Dec 12 21:32:42 Thank you for submitting your app to Palm. Your app was successfully submitted, but the status is currently pending. Dec 12 21:32:42 Please use the URL : http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=de.metaviewsoft.printimage to download your app, which will be available in approximately 24 hours. Dec 12 21:32:46 never seen this Dec 12 21:35:18 is doing 'dd' (clone/copy disk) a good way to make a complete backup of ur pre+? and be able to just 'dd' it Back onto the pre if needed?? good idea, or no? thakyou. Dec 12 21:35:37 solix: use the "backup" target in MetaDoctor Dec 12 21:36:08 oh ok! thanks rod. Dec 12 21:37:18 bad/errored backups are the devils child... hahaha :) thabks. Dec 12 21:42:40 hi JayCanuck Dec 12 21:43:03 yo JayCanuck :) Dec 12 21:43:04 hi metaview and everyone else :) Dec 12 21:43:10 hey JayCanuck Dec 12 21:43:29 JayCanuck: see /msg Dec 12 21:44:10 good day JayCanuck Dec 12 21:44:20 so im thinking one of the all in one patches but shrug Dec 12 21:47:13 Robi_: : I just used the two big ones, advanced launcher & other, can't complain, very nice, smoother than each individually... jmo Dec 12 21:48:03 I did like having control over each indv. one, but small sacrifice, also, if wanted/needed to badly enuf, can just edit patch. Dec 12 21:48:27 problem is my pre doesn't vibrate on the touchstone when ringer is off Dec 12 21:48:45 hmm Dec 12 21:49:14 oc, ur settin in sound/ts is set that way, right? Dec 12 21:51:12 no Dec 12 21:53:04 no such setting Dec 12 21:53:31 either silent or vibrate when ringer switch is off, set to vibrate Dec 12 21:54:59 oic, so it's just when it's on ur TS... ? otherwise works/vibes? Dec 12 21:55:34 searched preware for a patch? Dec 12 21:57:55 nod Dec 12 22:00:09 googled? or done a reset? *shrug* Dec 12 22:03:01 ya Dec 12 22:03:19 :/ Dec 12 22:04:46 Support email request: "Thanks for the software, where can I get the latest version for free. Dec 12 22:04:46 " Dec 12 22:06:18 it's like a super quiet ring instead of a vibrate Dec 12 22:08:12 Robi: can you try a diff. TS? Dec 12 22:08:45 makes no diff Dec 12 22:09:42 yeh, backup, remove/some patches, or doctor it and see what happens yet? Dec 12 22:13:48 tried taking out a few patches but they weren't the ones affecting the behavior Dec 12 22:14:00 luna restarts take a long time Dec 12 22:14:34 and i think if it can be narrowed down, a patch to enable it might be the way to go Dec 12 22:15:21 yep, i'll keep it in mind when I go patch hunting... lyk. Dec 12 22:15:24 yo Adora Dec 12 22:16:34 ya it's a weird thing to hear your phone not vibrate but something else very subdued Dec 12 22:17:15 even when flipping the ringer switch while on ts, it does this Dec 12 22:17:50 so it chooses this mode while on ts, as it vibrates just fine off the ts Dec 12 22:18:32 I've never owned a TS(yet), wouldn't be any software for it.? just curious. Dec 12 22:18:39 that is weird. Dec 12 22:18:45 no Dec 12 22:19:15 its just an inductive charger & the system knows when its on it vs usb Dec 12 22:19:47 wouldn't think so, but @fter seeing what webinternals has done with the pre/webos, it wouldn't surprise me neither.. hehe Dec 12 22:20:01 ;) Dec 12 22:31:08 40$ for a used clean ESN palm pre on craiglist.. woohoo.. hehe, not a plus tho, but ned to get an extra one soon for dev/experimenting... wifes not liking me using this one for that.. lol Dec 12 22:31:42 $40 is a good price Dec 12 22:31:50 yup.. Dec 12 22:31:58 * oil would buy that Dec 12 22:32:10 about 100miles from me, but will call on it. :) Dec 12 22:32:53 I've seen them 150(120) cheapest.. meh. Dec 12 22:33:43 I wished I had made it to the dev days in NYC. :)) :/ heh Dec 12 22:37:46 ohhh.. it IS a plus! woot! Dec 12 22:38:00 mineminemine... lol ;) Dec 12 22:40:03 daaaang Dec 12 22:40:13 you got a nice one for $40? Dec 12 22:40:19 I just paid $60 for one in orlando Dec 12 22:40:32 used, clean ESN but the speaker's blown :( Dec 12 22:41:18 ah.. didn't test it? for dev might be ok tho. Dec 12 22:41:40 the dang phone no. listed is wrong for this 40usd one.. gonna email Dec 12 22:42:22 I'd pay 60 for one, wld want the speaker tho :) Dec 12 22:44:21 yeah most def Dec 12 22:44:36 I can't really hear when I get a phone call Dec 12 22:45:51 BT work? Dec 12 22:46:03 or headset? Dec 12 22:47:48 Mr. ritby: will metadoctor deactivate a actice phone? (ie; can I use it on my primary/active pre+) thanks for all ur super devs btw. :) Dec 12 22:48:50 torchie: : suggest getting one those *small* ext.clip on speakers for that phone? Dec 12 22:48:59 hmm Dec 12 22:49:05 might work Dec 12 22:49:07 if the headjack works. Dec 12 22:49:10 yeah Dec 12 22:49:16 it's not like the speaker is just inaudible Dec 12 22:49:31 it's a little screwy and hard to hear Dec 12 22:49:33 it's o.u.t. huh? :/ Dec 12 22:49:39 oh. Dec 12 22:50:21 if it's just a blown speaker, might be able to resolder one? Dec 12 22:50:51 if it's scratchy, prolly blown from those way over ammpd patches. ;) hehe Dec 12 22:55:48 Mr. whitby, nvm prev. I got it, editing make file. :) ttthx. ! Dec 12 22:58:34 git.webos-internals DB is down... Dec 12 22:58:51 ? Dec 12 22:59:00 xml parsing error Dec 12 22:59:11 works for me... Dec 12 22:59:20 hmm. k Dec 12 22:59:57 ?p=tools/meta-doctor.git Dec 12 23:00:32 its loading fine for me still Dec 12 23:01:11 dang, says line number 41, column 20 undefined entity. Dec 12 23:01:19 I refreshed to. no cache. Dec 12 23:01:33 how i can check if a eventlistener(tap) is listening? Dec 12 23:01:37 div class'title' Dec 12 23:02:28 need it for my deactivate. a button has 2 eventlisteners, one for each state Dec 12 23:03:04 thabks for checkin halfhalo, I'll try again later.. :) Dec 12 23:05:27 currently i am using a helper-var that is set in each case. an using it for deciding, which eventhandler i have to deactivate. Dec 12 23:05:52 but just for interest... is there a way to ask the framework if a eventlistener is "listening"? Dec 12 23:08:43 dang, wish vzn had 4G.. Dec 12 23:09:36 soon.. Dec 12 23:10:32 i am waitung for LTE Dec 12 23:11:02 ahhh yes.. here to. Dec 12 23:11:34 life time ??? or is it long time ?? LTE I forget Dec 12 23:11:54 http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/111455/4g-is-a-myth-and-confusing Dec 12 23:12:47 no enough about 4g.. its weak ;p Dec 12 23:12:50 now Dec 12 23:13:38 but the 4 gees is fast! Dec 12 23:14:56 lte kinda costs (modem wise).. but nice, I'd be real good with 4G formy use. Dec 12 23:17:01 http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/111299/the-ten-businesses-the-smartphone-has-destroyed Dec 12 23:19:35 lol Dec 12 23:20:02 like 100mpbs 4G will ever exist when 68% of the US's internet is <3mbps Dec 12 23:21:16 Anybody here touched oauth? Dec 12 23:21:17 10 years ago when I got cable internet it was 10mbps now that plan is 15mbps , 30 and 120 Dec 12 23:21:19 Tibfib1: Ping Dec 12 23:21:24 i touched it Dec 12 23:21:32 minus the uncapped crowed.. cable modems.. 20+Mbps Dec 12 23:21:49 fios. :) Dec 12 23:22:17 Wiimax is fast though Dec 12 23:22:31 Wimax is about 3x faster than our home internet connection Dec 12 23:22:57 My home internet is 30mbps. Do you have DSL? Dec 12 23:23:01 I do miss 20mBps sooo much.. loool... al I can have in a small town is 4.5 (actual 2!) DSL... blaeh Dec 12 23:23:10 i wanna get chocolate wasted. Dec 12 23:23:23 Yeah, DSL, and it's the fastest Verizon claims we can get e_e Dec 12 23:23:41 * halfhalo pays for 15Mb/1Mb from TW since its either that or dial up Dec 12 23:23:54 i used to have fiber running into a rack that was also my desk :P but that was many years back Dec 12 23:24:11 70usd month for crapy dsl/3mpbs here... sheeesh! Dec 12 23:24:34 I paid comcast 45 for 6, and ran it uncapped..sometimes. Dec 12 23:24:46 that reminds me i have to call the cable company to get my tivo setup Dec 12 23:24:54 haha Dec 12 23:25:06 * halfhalo gets like 30 down, but that may be limited to the oooolllldddd router Dec 12 23:25:17 Back in the day I bought a cable modem and got free internet for years Dec 12 23:25:48 I'd be happy with just 10down, uncapped cable I also got 2up.. :) was niiice Dec 12 23:25:49 i remember when you could take your modem and plug it in to pretty much anyone's line that was the same provider and get access Dec 12 23:26:04 i miss @Home Dec 12 23:26:20 yeap Dec 12 23:26:52 That's still possible Dec 12 23:27:01 you can do that now, hehe, mac addy clone. :) Dec 12 23:27:33 i also remember when you could see everyone in your neighborhood ;p Dec 12 23:27:43 U don't need to clone anything. I can plug my cable modem into any line and it will work Dec 12 23:27:48 haha Dec 12 23:28:03 diag modem? Dec 12 23:28:08 deihmos, Dec 12 23:29:45 ? Dec 12 23:30:51 you in the usa? diagnostic modems can do that, with like comcast, cox, rrunner etc. without custom flashing the roms Dec 12 23:31:15 illegal, *usually.. but jus sayin. ;) Dec 12 23:31:29 I was responding to dawm Dec 12 23:31:56 oh. :/ Dec 12 23:32:28 * halfhalo has a velcro hat Dec 12 23:32:34 I was talkin about cloning.. macs, & using modems on various isps Dec 12 23:33:28 halfhalo beats putting postit notes all over your shirt, eh? :) Dec 12 23:33:42 hah Dec 12 23:37:49 * SineOt pokes Tibfib Dec 12 23:37:58 * Tibfib yawns Dec 12 23:38:07 what's up? Dec 12 23:38:41 With that math you gave me last night for figuring out what index you're on-Do you get weird decimal numbers back for it? Stuff like 0.456683 etc Dec 12 23:40:15 nope Dec 12 23:40:19 paste what you do! Dec 12 23:41:35 scrollState = this.controller.get("remoteControlSlider").mojo.getState() Dec 12 23:41:37 Mojo.Log.info(Math.abs(parseInt(scrollState.left))/320); Dec 12 23:42:46 You guys still holding on to sprint pre? Dec 12 23:42:55 It gives me... 0.571875 when I'm on index 1 :Q Dec 12 23:43:15 log out what scroll state is at each index Dec 12 23:43:24 for mine, the first one was a little weird Dec 12 23:43:42 like a 5 pixel difference... but doing Math.round fixed it for me. Dec 12 23:44:09 Hm. Dec 12 23:44:15 What event are you using on the scroller? Dec 12 23:44:26 I'm using Mojo.Event.dragEnd right now on mine Dec 12 23:45:01 mine isn't on an event listen on the scroller Dec 12 23:45:46 like I said, log out what the scroll state says for each index Dec 12 23:46:03 you may have to do a little extra Dec 12 23:46:41 Hm. How do you poll for when the scroller has changed/your display widget needs to get updated? Dec 12 23:47:01 I don't Dec 12 23:47:26 I use the index so I know what "item" is visible so I can do stuff with it Dec 12 23:48:18 Fair enough Dec 12 23:49:23 the scroller itself should handle the display stuff Dec 12 23:49:48 well yeah Dec 12 23:50:04 I want to have a few small icons along the bottom that will change to tell you which index you're on Dec 12 23:51:23 hm, okay. That works. Seems pretty dumb though that it'll give you nonsensical values if you're trying to find it based off the scroller's event Dec 12 23:51:36 but will report fine if it's checked after it snaps Dec 12 23:51:41 you could listen to "flicks" on the scroller div... Dec 12 23:51:55 on a left/right flick, change the index Dec 12 23:52:44 but it's still not a perfect solution Dec 12 23:53:05 you may be able to listen to Mojo.Event.propertyChange on the scroller Dec 12 23:53:11 I guess I'm just surprised that there's no event for the scroller where it fires to "hey, I snapped" Dec 12 23:53:19 that fires whenever you let your finger go Dec 12 23:53:24 but before the scroller has snapped Dec 12 23:53:28 so it's basically useless Dec 12 23:53:45 the Mojo.Event.propertyChange might be that event.. Dec 12 23:55:41 Also dumb: it exposes Mojo.Event.scrollStarting but there's no Mojo.Event.scrollEnding Dec 12 23:56:00 yeah, that's stupid Dec 12 23:56:10 I want to do something with scroll ending Dec 12 23:56:19 7 day uptime! Dec 12 23:56:20 :D Dec 12 23:56:52 crap Dec 12 23:57:00 i knew i should have looked to see who messged me Dec 12 23:57:17 yeah using propertyChanged it fires the event when you lift your finger, but before the scroller has snapped Dec 12 23:57:21 this is how i kow kesne is a noob Dec 12 23:57:31 Haha Dec 12 23:57:32 I am Dec 12 23:57:32 http://pastebin.com/wdqUQ8va Dec 12 23:57:33 So it gives you BS results like being at 208px on the scroller Dec 12 23:57:48 even though it's snapped to the first index which starts at 320px Dec 12 23:57:50 heh Dec 12 23:57:55 @ kesne + dawm Dec 12 23:58:01 * kesne has spent the past days working on a few IA's, I'm worn down Dec 12 23:58:14 SineOt: lame sauce Dec 12 23:58:22 kesne, try this.. /join #oauth Dec 12 23:58:30 there were #things before twitter :P Dec 12 23:58:39 yeah yeah Dec 12 23:58:47 :P Dec 12 23:59:03 man a friend i havent talked to in years msgd me.. of course i was in the other room and ignored the 'piddlydoo sound' Dec 12 23:59:11 now shes not online.. ugh! Dec 12 23:59:11 heh Dec 12 23:59:18 Oh, she? Damn Dec 12 23:59:20 Message that shit Dec 12 23:59:31 i tried =/ and bounced back Dec 12 23:59:36 user is offline Dec 12 23:59:45 * SineOt punches scrollers Dec 12 23:59:53 ill have to move that acct to the top of my buddy list just incase she comes on again Dec 13 00:02:03 Create a list for her Dec 13 00:02:11 That's what I do Dec 13 00:02:22 I have a "Important" list Dec 13 00:02:30 Move people in and out as needed Dec 13 00:03:22 wtf.. i cannot remember the name of that website Dec 13 00:03:34 dur.. archive.org Dec 13 00:05:52 http://lovesucks.org/ Dec 13 00:05:53 lol Dec 13 00:08:21 i wish there was an archive of whois data Dec 13 00:08:33 like you could look up who owned what domain over time Dec 13 00:08:34 whois.com? Dec 13 00:08:37 oh Dec 13 00:08:40 I've seen that Dec 13 00:08:45 I forget where Dec 13 00:09:45 i find it funny seeing the word twit Dec 13 00:09:53 in things before twitter existed Dec 13 00:18:13 kesne, do you know what means? Dec 13 00:19:16 Tibfib: if I string in a setTimeout() I an get the actual value for the index, but god that seems so hacky Dec 13 00:19:33 it is hacky.. but you may have to do it :/ Dec 13 00:20:31 Yeah... Which is dumb, what what can you do! Dec 13 00:29:20 anyone use that GPS icon patch? ver2, or* the lockon/glow one? thanks. Dec 13 00:49:50 heh Dec 13 00:49:56 myspace has a like button? Dec 13 00:50:11 hmm.. thought that 'hackish closing bug' was fixed.. :/ hehe (just installed testing feed) :) Dec 13 00:58:13 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=tools/meta-doctor.git Dec 13 00:58:20 XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=tools/meta-doctor.git Line Number 41, Column 20:

-------------------^ Dec 13 00:58:33 still getting that from here... arg Dec 13 00:58:38 sol9: works for me Dec 13 00:59:05 alright. :) i guess im just lucky like that.. ;) wont post it again.. ;) Dec 13 00:59:16 ]try a different browser Dec 13 00:59:23 sol9: why would your browser be interpreting it as XML ? It is not XML. Dec 13 00:59:47 sol9: I suspect your browser is broken Dec 13 00:59:52 technically, it is xml with html transformations Dec 13 01:00:02 dunno.. i already closed, tried reloading, it was coming up previously, then this.. Firefox.. Dec 13 01:00:02 Ubuntu Dec 13 01:00:11 will do tho :) thx Dec 13 01:01:26 like the testing Preware themes from Garrett92C :) nice choice in colors. :0 Dec 13 01:03:06 d/ling Opera10 now.. havnt used anything but FF in over ... 8 years or so. when ever i could. Dec 13 01:03:30 oh, also, view source and pastebin it Dec 13 01:05:31 http://pastebin.com/sD7BRJCj Dec 13 01:07:48 holy crap Dec 13 01:07:58 my persistance and skills prevailed Dec 13 01:08:39 yup, of course you were right, broken browser, opera is fine .. Dec 13 01:09:10 clear all ff data and try again, looks like its trying to go to an old page which no longer exists Dec 13 01:11:04 i'll reset set it to 0 cache.. prolly a problem anyways Dec 13 01:11:21 had it caching while i was stuck using hotspot for internet.. ;) Dec 13 01:11:24 man Dec 13 01:11:38 tracking down someone you last talked to in.. 2004 can be a real bugger Dec 13 01:12:03 use a msg bot.. when she comes back online, send her your phone. Dec 13 01:12:06 or msg service here on irc Dec 13 01:12:13 oh i eventually found her twitter Dec 13 01:12:20 ohh ok :) Dec 13 01:12:32 but hitting dead ends from 05 and 07 and numerous 'handles' Dec 13 01:12:36 finally found one that was active :P Dec 13 01:13:02 i use to (10 years ago) play a lot with bots.. eggdrops, etc.. no mischievious stuff, just services, and customs. :) was kinda fun scripting, but has its limits.. heh Dec 13 01:13:38 i was into that i'd say about 14yrs ago heh Dec 13 01:13:42 dawm: hmm.. whitpages.com ? you know her name full? Dec 13 01:13:45 i use whitepages all the time for family research genealogy. Dec 13 01:13:52 i only knew her first, couldnt remmeber the last Dec 13 01:13:54 yup... haha Dec 13 01:14:35 dang, it has been longer, 1995ish, so yeah.. quite a while ago.. dang im older than i was hoping i was.. ;) hahaha Dec 13 01:17:40 score Dec 13 01:21:17 bb Dec 13 01:24:56 oil: you're probably wondering what kind of tea I'm drinking right now. I'll give you a hint, it's red Dec 13 01:25:25 i wasn't wondering that at all Dec 13 01:25:25 * halfhalo votes the blood of a thousand children Dec 13 01:26:04 don't lie. Yes you were Dec 13 01:26:11 halfhalo: a thousand children, don't you think that's a bit excessive? Dec 13 01:26:19 nope Dec 13 01:27:23 what's up tonight Dec 13 01:27:43 oc halfhalo, clearing browser cache et al fixed the XML issue i had wuth FF.. thank :) Dec 13 01:27:50 and the answer was red rhooibos Dec 13 01:27:51 * halfhalo votes krispy kreme run! Dec 13 01:27:54 you all lose Dec 13 01:28:03 nuttin much afaik mattsmcnulty. you? Dec 13 01:28:07 sol9: hah, I figured it would Dec 13 01:28:15 not too much Dec 13 01:28:18 relaxing weekend Dec 13 01:28:34 yeah, same here, no choice, all snowed in :))) Dec 13 01:28:55 luckily i was 'able' to make it to the local liquor store before the blizzard hit.. ;) haha Dec 13 01:29:02 there's not much like half a foot or more of snow to stop me from going out today Dec 13 01:29:16 hehe.. yup Dec 13 01:29:33 what is this snow you are talking about? I have never heard of such a thing before in my life! :p Dec 13 01:29:36 we have drifts near 4 feet, not plowed,, just winded. :) pretty neat. :) Dec 13 01:29:47 haha halfhalo.. Dec 13 01:30:09 I was thinking about taking the car out for a fun ride, but i figure insurance wouldn't appreciate it :) Dec 13 01:30:11 I was hoping to watch the giants game today, but the snow messed that up too Dec 13 01:30:24 I looooove snow driving, at least with my old rwd car Dec 13 01:30:25 woke up this am to about 6 snow blowers (neighbors) going at it..... i still have a headache. heh Dec 13 01:30:42 mattsmcnulty: just watch the Bills :D Dec 13 01:30:46 ha Dec 13 01:30:57 my dad's family is from buffalo Dec 13 01:31:04 yeah, matt, i *just put new 31" mudders on my truck right at the start iof this stuff.. cant wait for tomorrow. :) Dec 13 01:31:08 * halfhalo goes to modify viewgit for doc info showng stuff Dec 13 01:31:12 bah, awd Dec 13 01:31:26 REAL men drive no wheel drive! Dec 13 01:31:27 spent part of the day checking out barcelona from afar. you all see we have a dev event at MWC ? Dec 13 01:31:37 I'm originally from buffalo, people love the bills. They watch that shit even though the bills haven't been above 500 in 11 years Dec 13 01:31:40 nice Dec 13 01:31:41 I have an awd car now (audi) Dec 13 01:32:24 * halfhalo has a fake awd suv with no traction control or anything like that Dec 13 01:32:37 do you need that stuff in california? Dec 13 01:32:42 does it ever snow there or anything? Dec 13 01:32:44 92' ranger.. hydrogen, glow lights, loaded with custom 'options' :) Dec 13 01:32:52 not in socal at least Dec 13 01:32:54 I snowbored in tahoe a lot. my fav resort there is up past 220" so far this year Dec 13 01:32:59 so yeah, you need it sometimes ;-) Dec 13 01:33:22 what's tahoe like to drive through in early may? Dec 13 01:33:28 can I expect snow? Dec 13 01:33:40 I would much rather drive my suv than another awd car for snow/ice Dec 13 01:33:42 tahoe is warmish in early may Dec 13 01:33:52 only issues are during storms. never seen storms like they have there Dec 13 01:34:03 oh, I'd much rather have an awd car Dec 13 01:34:07 than a tall suv Dec 13 01:34:15 yeah I don't much understand suvs Dec 13 01:34:15 its not that tall Dec 13 01:34:22 i agree with matt .. i <3 my a4 Dec 13 01:34:25 2003 v6 highlander Dec 13 01:34:36 it's still much taller than a car :) Dec 13 01:34:49 my a5 rocks, though I have not driven it in snow yet. my 325xi was good Dec 13 01:35:04 and its not so much that I prefer my suv, its just that I know how it will act vs a different car I don't normally drive Dec 13 01:35:08 a5 is a sexy car Dec 13 01:35:11 does your highlander come with brakes too, or does it only accelerate like most toyotas Dec 13 01:35:17 yes, my a5 is awesome Dec 13 01:35:37 Brakes are optional Dec 13 01:35:59 halfhalo: with awd, snow under your tires feels like you're driving on clouds :) Dec 13 01:36:05 * halfhalo loves his highlander because his dog has room in the back Dec 13 01:36:21 my dog doesn't need much room, as he is like 15lbs Dec 13 01:36:23 there can be only one? Dec 13 01:36:27 oh pull the appeal to emotion with your dog car! Dec 13 01:36:35 technically I think my car is awd, but only when it senses slippage and it takes a while to kick in Dec 13 01:36:44 is the highlander invincible? Dec 13 01:36:53 well, unless you cut off its head Dec 13 01:36:54