**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 22 02:59:57 2010 Dec 22 05:32:21 Is there a way to install Preware without USB? Dec 22 05:33:52 KGF2009: initial access to any device in developer mode has to be over USB. why, is that a problem? Dec 22 05:35:04 My pre seems to be denying dev-mode-style USB connections whatsoever. Dec 22 05:35:09 KGF2009: not unless you already have a mechanism to get a root command line shell on the device by some other means Dec 22 05:36:02 rwhitby: is preware not on the beta feeds perchance? Dec 22 05:36:04 KGF2009: in my experience that's almost always a problem with the client / pc side Dec 22 05:36:19 SSH localhost:10022: Server unexpectedly closed connection Dec 22 05:36:23 That's never happened. Dec 22 05:38:33 But yeah; I've tried doctoring it, two operating systems, and both have had the same result. Dec 22 05:41:10 same host computer? Dec 22 05:41:16 same USB cable? Dec 22 05:42:23 Yes. Dec 22 05:47:59 I'm putting the SDK on a laptop now, we'll see how that goes.. Dec 22 07:50:28 anyone have any good examples of webview code? Dec 22 07:53:33 Hmm the tut swiss have made uses one i think? Dec 22 07:58:23 linkage? Dec 22 07:59:10 http://mobile.tutsplus.com/tutorials/webos/webos-sdk/ Dec 22 07:59:35 http://mobile.tutsplus.com/tutorials/webos/webos-sdk-development-4/ <-- here he uses it Dec 22 07:59:49 "The WebView" Dec 22 08:11:49 ah Dec 22 08:11:51 bummer Dec 22 08:12:04 it's kind of an incomplete webview Dec 22 08:12:11 it is? Dec 22 08:12:12 mmmmkay thanks Dec 22 08:12:13 yeah Dec 22 08:12:20 Can't you download the example Dec 22 08:12:23 only handles tap events Dec 22 08:12:35 which doesn't account for "target=" links Dec 22 08:12:42 oki Dec 22 13:15:34 afternoon Dec 22 13:30:52 hey swisstomcat Dec 22 13:30:56 whats going on ? Dec 22 13:31:36 hey hotdp Dec 22 13:31:39 busy :) Dec 22 13:32:36 last day of work was yesterday Dec 22 13:32:41 turned in my notebook today Dec 22 13:33:45 How was the feelings? Dec 22 13:33:53 did you cry or laugh? Dec 22 13:34:36 neither Dec 22 13:34:46 it's good to start something new in 2011 Dec 22 13:34:55 Oki Dec 22 13:35:01 You did not have good co workers `? Dec 22 13:39:04 i was mostly working on my own Dec 22 13:39:13 onsite Dec 22 13:39:15 at the customer Dec 22 13:49:29 I see Dec 22 13:49:46 Then it should be easy in that way Dec 22 13:49:56 yeah Dec 22 13:50:07 first project will be on the ipad Dec 22 13:50:14 cool Dec 22 13:50:25 what tecnologys do they do? Dec 22 13:50:35 how long travel time do you have? Dec 22 13:54:28 half an hour traveltime Dec 22 13:54:38 they use phonegap and html/css/js Dec 22 13:54:41 hallo metaview Dec 22 13:55:58 hi swisstomcat Dec 22 14:07:37 swisstomcat ½ hour is not much Dec 22 14:07:43 yeah Dec 22 14:07:46 by train and bus Dec 22 14:07:51 looking forward to share iPad experience with you Dec 22 14:09:10 yeah, how's your project coming along? Dec 22 14:09:50 still only talk and mock up Dec 22 14:09:57 its a "long" process Dec 22 14:10:12 its not a cheap solution Dec 22 14:11:19 i'll be happy to share my experiences Dec 22 14:11:23 in january Dec 22 14:11:30 also need to get hold of a topaz prototype :) Dec 22 14:11:53 whats that? Dec 22 14:12:09 i will share to, its good for faster development Dec 22 14:16:07 yeah Dec 22 14:16:15 Topaz? Dec 22 14:16:16 topaz is the webos tablet Dec 22 14:16:24 lol Dec 22 14:16:31 haha Dec 22 14:16:34 i was looking at http://www.topazlabs.com Dec 22 14:16:40 thought you should design something :P Dec 22 14:17:04 * hotdp wants to code for the WebOS tablet too Dec 22 14:17:53 hehe Dec 22 14:28:14 morning (to those of you that are awake) Dec 22 14:28:33 (or afternoon/evening to those not in this country) Dec 22 14:28:38 hello Dec 22 14:31:04 hey Dec 22 14:36:14 hey hattczech Dec 22 14:36:19 and leo Dec 22 14:38:01 what's up ? Dec 22 15:09:52 swisstomcat: did you get a pre2? Dec 22 15:10:10 yeah :) Dec 22 15:10:24 how do you bypass the sim lock? Dec 22 15:10:58 thx Dec 22 15:11:06 on palm's site, it says you don't need to run the tool, just open the phone and do #*DEVMODE# Dec 22 15:11:38 that's what i read Dec 22 15:11:50 i didn't have to bypass the sim-lock, it's unlocked Dec 22 15:11:58 lucky! :) Dec 22 15:11:59 or what do you mean? Dec 22 15:12:03 how'd you unlock it? Dec 22 15:12:10 it's unlocked by default Dec 22 15:12:18 or what do you mean by "unlocked"? Dec 22 15:12:25 locked to a carrier Dec 22 15:12:41 it's not Dec 22 15:12:45 where did you get it? Dec 22 15:12:53 only the SFR ones are locked Dec 22 15:12:55 afaik Dec 22 15:22:43 hmm. pre2 hasn't been released anywhere else, right ? (apart from dev devices from hp) Dec 22 15:23:02 Rogers Dec 22 15:23:13 EU store Dec 22 15:23:18 US Store Dec 22 15:24:25 yeah Dec 22 15:24:27 SFR Dec 22 15:24:29 Bell Dec 22 15:24:39 :) Dec 22 15:24:47 gah .. can't update apps anymore on the dev pre plus: palm-webos-device user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: com.palm.app.findapps: Error: Catalog.download failed.init error: -1, palmInitFramework347:2527 Dec 22 15:25:11 eh? Dec 22 15:28:12 dammit! Dec 22 15:28:32 "you are n longer signed in to your palm profile on this phone ..." Dec 22 15:28:40 WTF! Dec 22 15:28:42 only 1 phone at the time ;) Dec 22 15:29:33 i didn't change anything Dec 22 15:29:37 except a reboot Dec 22 15:30:00 is Pre2 running on 1.4.5? Dec 22 15:30:05 no Dec 22 15:30:07 2.0.x Dec 22 15:30:52 swisstomcat thats strange, reboot again? Dec 22 15:32:14 bbl Dec 22 15:49:59 Wow, WP7 is getting a kindle app http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=ms_sbrspot_6?ie=UTF8&docId=1000623751&pf_rd_p=1279039622&pf_rd_s=center-36&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002Y27P3M&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=017JMMNYDD61ZXSAX9YD Dec 22 15:50:03 before we do :/ Dec 22 15:52:01 and back Dec 22 15:52:17 yeah corporate for changing router configs and not telling anyone Dec 22 15:56:22 HattCzech where do you work? Dec 22 16:29:52 ctladvance wp7 needs a "save as epub" Screw a kindle app. epub epub epub Dec 22 16:32:54 yeah, that's the real reason I bought a nook over a kindle Dec 22 16:39:34 and back again Dec 22 16:39:43 ctladvance: GTech Dec 22 16:53:11 the nook doesnt support pdf files though does it? Dec 22 17:03:30 i know the kindle does, not sure about the noook Dec 22 17:03:32 nook* Dec 22 17:17:26 ctl, yes it does Dec 22 17:17:51 ctladvance, both the original and color do... Dec 22 17:18:59 oh nice Dec 22 17:19:43 ...and if you've got the cash, i wouldn't even consider looking at the original. the color is such a better choice. Dec 22 17:22:46 My background for my integer picker isn't directly behind the widget. It's halfway above the picker and goes down to the middle of it. How can I make it directly behind the picker? Dec 22 17:23:54 I would never buy a color screen device for reading books Dec 22 17:23:57 epaper is so much better Dec 22 17:24:01 color lcd Dec 22 17:24:02 * Dec 22 17:24:09 color epaper would be awesome Dec 22 17:24:15 will* Dec 22 17:24:24 yeah... Dec 22 17:24:29 i have the original and love it to death Dec 22 17:24:50 but there are times i can't stand the refresh, and the color just has so much more to it... Dec 22 17:24:54 Yeah I have one in a box here next to my desk ands want to open it so bad, but its not for me :/ Dec 22 17:25:10 but yes. for straight reading... the eink is a better choice. Dec 22 17:25:22 The thing is, the color is more of a tablet, the ereader is more directed at book reading Dec 22 17:25:29 yup Dec 22 17:25:45 awe :\ did you ask anyone for a nook for xmas? :) Dec 22 17:27:10 nah, I can buy one myself once I see how it works. Got one for the wife Dec 22 17:41:13 yeah, they seem to make good gifts. we just picked up the color for my mother yesterday Dec 22 17:45:01 WOW Dec 22 17:45:03 swisstomcat Dec 22 17:45:05 you here? Dec 22 17:45:18 Something is happening with the paid apps for none paid app country! Dec 22 17:45:42 really? Dec 22 17:45:51 i thought it was only free apps for more countries Dec 22 17:45:55 Yer Dec 22 17:46:15 Now i see "Kr" (our money) and a htmlm symbol Dec 22 17:47:03 oh, wow Dec 22 17:47:21 yer! Dec 22 17:47:25 thats crazy! Dec 22 17:48:07 let me check Dec 22 17:48:54 which app did you check? Dec 22 17:49:11 the feature screen Dec 22 17:49:18 that one is still empty here Dec 22 17:49:20 i can email you? Dec 22 17:49:26 sure Dec 22 17:50:50 you got mail Dec 22 17:53:38 what do you say:D alot is happening Dec 22 17:56:15 mugen, do you have ref books on your nook? Dec 22 17:58:37 ctladvance, yeah... that's actually what I picked it up for. Dec 22 17:58:41 swisstomcat ? Dec 22 17:58:49 was tired of carrying all my bibles around. Dec 22 17:59:33 precentral down? Dec 22 18:00:57 leiru, no... just extremely slow atm Dec 22 18:04:12 dammit! Dec 22 18:04:17 can't tip it goes to slow.. Dec 22 18:24:33 * phil_bw wanders by Dec 22 18:32:09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToACDIXTzo0&feature=player_embedded Dec 22 18:32:16 LOL... the blooper at the end is great Dec 22 19:05:42 anyone know how to add a palm profile to a dev phone"? Dec 22 19:08:52 HattCzech_work: wondering the same thing Dec 22 19:08:56 HattCzech_work: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=43222#p43222 Dec 22 19:12:23 hotdp: time to submit to precentral :) Dec 22 19:13:02 dohtem: so I can just put in a t-mobile sim or something? Dec 22 19:13:04 whoa, palm's logo on twitter was changed Dec 22 19:13:44 Tibfib: Yeah, I used a T-Mo sim on my dev AT&T Pre+ Dec 22 19:14:00 swisstomcat i have submittet :D Dec 22 19:14:01 I think I'll steal the sim out of my dad's phone for it Dec 22 19:14:28 when its done, you can remove the T-mobile sim and access the Catalog over wifi Dec 22 19:14:39 perfect, that's what I'm hoping for Dec 22 19:14:46 and will you be able to update your device? Dec 22 19:14:50 well as far a 1.4.5 Dec 22 19:15:00 like my pre2 is on 2.0.0, but I think 2.0.1 is current Dec 22 19:15:13 * dohtem yells NDA Dec 22 19:15:20 pre2 is not nda Dec 22 19:15:27 lots of people have them Dec 22 19:15:36 ah Dec 22 19:15:36 I'm debating weather I want a pre2 or some other device Dec 22 19:15:39 is pre2 4g? Dec 22 19:15:42 nope Dec 22 19:15:44 nope Dec 22 19:15:45 nah Dec 22 19:15:51 more like 3g ;) Dec 22 19:17:16 booo Dec 22 19:18:05 I need a tactile keyboard Dec 22 19:18:24 and I want a larger screenn and 4g Dec 22 19:18:43 Get a T-mobile G2 Dec 22 19:19:02 wait for the evo 4g knight Dec 22 19:19:04 or get an epic Dec 22 19:19:08 or a g2 Dec 22 19:23:01 dohtem: if i've already done the bypass, firstuse is only the gesture info... Dec 22 19:23:12 where do i setup the palm profile account? Dec 22 19:23:23 ah, 2.0 Dec 22 20:36:41 evening Dec 22 20:36:54 hey b0bben Dec 22 20:37:03 hi Dec 22 20:37:03 how's everyone? Dec 22 20:37:36 any Pre2s under the tree? :) Dec 22 20:37:49 no Dec 22 20:38:48 me neither :/ Dec 22 21:07:51 bing it! free song on bing Dec 22 21:07:54 http://www.discoverbing.com/celebrate/index2.html?form=MFEHPG&publ=TWITTER&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_HolidaySongDL_source-bingtw_0_1x1 Dec 22 21:08:36 bing crosby? Dec 22 21:16:16 Whoa, crazy. Less than 24 hours up on the beta feed and 43 downloads. Dec 22 21:17:24 nice Dec 22 21:19:42 But yeah, now you should be able to update it via the App Catalog/Software Manager. Dec 22 21:51:10 how would you say find anything that isn't a letter (accented letters should NOT be found) in regex? Dec 22 21:51:34 I thought this /[^\w]/i would work but it doesn't count accents Dec 22 21:51:58 http://bit.ly/dRzqoR Dec 22 21:54:35 Tibfib: rubular.com is no1 resource for messing around with regex Dec 22 21:55:10 from what I'm seeing, "JavaScript's regex implementation is not Unicode-aware" Dec 22 21:55:21 " It only knows the ‘word characters’ in standard low-byte ASCII, which does not include é or any other accented or non-English letters." Dec 22 21:55:39 so looks like I'll have to make a black list Dec 22 21:59:43 dawm: i agree with the separate event Dec 22 21:59:56 don't want webos to become "me-too" player Dec 22 22:00:00 sucks that we have to wait for the unknown Dec 22 22:00:08 specially a new device on sprint.. Dec 22 22:00:19 and HP has the cash and the name for a separate event thing Dec 22 22:00:21 hopefully bestbuy has a goof again so i can snag it for 99 Dec 22 22:00:36 dawm: yeah, like i've said before, god damn 2011 can't come soon enough Dec 22 22:00:50 Well, if they do it between CES and MWC it's like a month window. Dec 22 22:00:54 So it's not waiting THAT long. Dec 22 22:01:50 When the Pixi came out for 199 with a 100 rebate... Best Buy price matched Walmart's online only 49$. :V Dec 22 22:01:55 i'd rather wait a little longer and be blown away with some new stuff then get .1 release Dec 22 22:02:07 Then gave me rewards points based off the MSRP which was like 575. Dec 22 22:10:07 MetaView: how's the remote coming along? Dec 22 22:11:09 b0bben_: not at all yet Dec 22 22:11:26 hehe Dec 22 22:14:21 at the end, I don't have a Pre2 and my only source of a 2.0 OS might be an early access program which would put me under an NDA if I would be part of it, which I don't can say at all :) Dec 22 22:14:58 well, too much if's, let's wait for the public availablitity of 2.0 for my little Pre Dec 22 22:15:09 right Dec 22 22:15:13 enough said Dec 22 22:16:57 yes Dec 22 22:29:45 MetaView: Remote eh? What for? :3 Dec 22 22:31:14 OMG! Dec 22 22:31:39 the movie black swan: natalie portman and mila kunis make out *passes out* Dec 22 22:31:59 b0bben: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.ruddersquish.boxeeremotebeta Dec 22 22:32:26 SineOt: no, not this Dec 22 22:32:33 remote controller Dec 22 22:32:37 for games and stuff Dec 22 22:32:48 bluetooth? Dec 22 22:32:53 yes Dec 22 22:32:54 sry SineOt, i meant to write to you before Dec 22 22:33:06 Awesome Dec 22 22:33:08 i didn't actually know anything about MetaView's remote ;) Dec 22 22:33:11 rudderSQUISH! Dec 22 22:33:19 Yes! Dec 22 22:33:19 /kick b0bben Dec 22 22:33:28 SineOt: how did you come up with that name? :) Dec 22 22:33:30 Now I just need to get a logo goin' Dec 22 22:33:34 Long story :T Dec 22 22:33:35 haha, did i just made you uncover your secret app? Dec 22 22:33:53 MetaView: you better scream PATENT PENDING ;) Dec 22 22:35:09 nope Dec 22 22:35:21 !google ljp wiimote Dec 22 22:37:33 I like that the IPK I uploaded was 500k, and it's apparently a 3MB file on device @_@ Dec 22 22:38:27 dohtem: it's an otter joke basically :T Dec 22 22:38:48 omg Dec 22 22:38:57 heh Dec 22 22:42:34 Otter tail = rudder + squish because I'm basically a 4 year old and that word sounds funny :T Dec 22 22:43:43 whats with the fascination with otters? Dec 22 22:43:46 SineOt: also, poop is funny :) Dec 22 22:44:05 pft, maybe if I was a retarded 4 year old :T Dec 22 22:44:17 dohtem: they're cute Dec 22 22:46:14 until rudder squish Dec 22 22:47:19 I would die if I could get one of these in otter form http://www.squishable.com/ Dec 22 22:48:05 there's an eco otter there Dec 22 22:48:18 Yeah, but it's not a giant fat round thing Dec 22 22:48:40 heh Dec 22 22:49:19 I may just have to man up and drag the sewing machine out Dec 22 22:51:15 today is going to be busy. Candy making is time consuming >:B Dec 22 22:56:17 * dohtem will be making brownies with ghirardelli's hot cocoa mix this weekend :) Dec 22 22:56:54 * SineOt is making salted caramels, cookies, candied oranges and orange rinds... Dec 22 22:57:18 Those caramels are going to be delicious. Dec 22 23:04:24 SineOt: ship some to me :) Dec 22 23:05:12 Pay me and I'll think about it :] Dec 22 23:11:31 he works hard for the money! ♫♫ Dec 22 23:21:33 tunage -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0XwOjSpdbc Dec 22 23:22:19 hey Mugen Dec 22 23:26:11 ctladvance, what's going on? Dec 22 23:35:52 * haeffb_pre suddenly more interested in swapping comms board to Pre 2 Dec 22 23:36:16 have the bugs been ironed out yet? Dec 22 23:38:03 whats this about Dec 22 23:38:03 http://twitter.com/#!/rahulsood/status/17660863636836352 Dec 22 23:44:34 mistakes? Dec 22 23:45:17 thats the problem with twitter.. you can lose context so easily Dec 22 23:46:43 http://twitter.com/#!/fzammetti/status/17447795338248193 - Frank went on a webOS rant last nite. Dec 22 23:47:01 quite a few tweets too Dec 22 23:47:43 yeah i saw that Dec 22 23:47:53 sucks Dec 22 23:48:31 yeah, not good Dec 22 23:48:44 i still use his book too for webos dev Dec 22 23:49:09 i have to agree with Frank... Dec 22 23:49:12 as sad as it is... Dec 22 23:49:35 it's not like HP is a small company without the capital to move quickly if they needed too. Dec 22 23:49:41 im getting sick of defending webos when its brought up in conversation.. its rare but annoying cause no one really seems to even know about it now.. Dec 22 23:49:54 i hear ya Dec 22 23:50:24 i have faith in the product... it's just tiring as all the rest of the world gets massive amounts of awesome everything Dec 22 23:50:25 people that hear about it cant even believe its still around.. like it was a novelty or something Dec 22 23:50:51 I went to a wp7 dev event and ended up talking to the guy next to me (turned out to be an ms employee).. he did a bit a bashing and I really couldnt come back Dec 22 23:51:04 :( Dec 22 23:51:04 yah Dec 22 23:51:08 we have old hardware Dec 22 23:51:11 yup Dec 22 23:51:18 and that's all we really need Dec 22 23:51:22 just a hardware refresh Dec 22 23:51:34 technically the palm platform could wait on tablets Dec 22 23:51:38 we need a leap to draw attention Dec 22 23:52:00 i think palm should go back to the old days of the palm pilot model Dec 22 23:52:07 and with MS offering free xbox360s with a W7 phone.. Dec 22 23:52:08 create a ipod touch killer Dec 22 23:52:38 dawm: are they really? Dec 22 23:52:45 ive seen advertisements Dec 22 23:53:03 ???? Dec 22 23:53:04 mugen- without a phone though, that wouldn't be a real killer Dec 22 23:53:24 qillerneu, so in order to compete with the ipod touch, a device has to have a phone? Dec 22 23:53:28 meh, CES and Mobile world congress... something has to give Dec 22 23:53:30 http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/promotions/xbox.shtml?INTCMP=HomeBANXbox Dec 22 23:53:30 that doesn't make sense Dec 22 23:53:35 thats just one that ive seen Dec 22 23:53:54 its a holiday deal but still Dec 22 23:54:08 mp3 player == ipod, and it's even harder to compete with that than with iphone Dec 22 23:54:18 so? Dec 22 23:54:23 bring back the palm pilot name Dec 22 23:54:31 remember how many people had them back in the day? Dec 22 23:54:35 they were EVERYWHERE Dec 22 23:54:55 and just have a really kick ass marketing setup to show it off doing everything the ipod touch does Dec 22 23:54:57 i still have a handspring visor prism Dec 22 23:55:14 dude... seriously. 3/4 of my friends had a palm pilot Dec 22 23:55:23 EVERY businessman had one Dec 22 23:55:25 everyone had on Dec 22 23:55:51 i say they make some killer apps... it already syncs with itunes Dec 22 23:56:03 bring back the palm pilot name... and then go head to head with ipods Dec 22 23:56:45 need to get WoW ported to a 4G webOS device :P Dec 22 23:56:49 that will draw them in Dec 22 23:56:59 lol Dec 22 23:57:22 seriously Dec 22 23:57:36 if a mobile device could play WoW.. think of it Dec 22 23:57:40 besides a laptop Dec 22 23:58:08 ooh, you see carmack new game on iOS? Dec 22 23:58:19 rage? Dec 22 23:58:20 yea Dec 22 23:58:31 looks nice... just don't get the whole "fps on rails" idea Dec 23 00:10:19 hi all!! Dec 23 00:11:15 hello Dec 23 00:11:57 hiya Dec 23 00:14:06 whats new? Dec 23 00:14:32 not much. I'm almost done with work and ready for my holiday to begin Dec 23 00:14:47 hey JenP Dec 23 00:14:57 hi rod! Dec 23 00:15:01 how are you? Dec 23 00:15:28 I'm doing well. Yourself? Dec 23 00:15:39 great! Dec 23 00:17:55 * oil_pre wishes it would stop snowing so much I need to shovel... Dec 23 00:18:15 lol Dec 23 00:18:18 your puny arms need the workout Dec 23 00:18:42 * HattCzech_work sees snow maybe once every 2-3 years Dec 23 00:19:07 it's not really arm strength, snow isn't that heavy Dec 23 00:19:17 it's lower-back Dec 23 00:19:30 that's what she... nevermind Dec 23 00:19:33 :) Dec 23 00:19:43 lol Dec 23 00:19:48 it was in the 40s here in norcal last week and we were complaining Dec 23 00:20:00 I'm glad I dont have to shovel snow Dec 23 00:20:51 i hate that the house i bought has so much land and concrete.. didnt think of snow when i was house shopping :P Dec 23 00:21:58 lol Dec 23 00:24:41 * dawm likes the new coheed album Dec 23 00:26:12 http://myplay.com/audio_player/coheed/97?allowBrowsing=1 Dec 23 00:28:23 * dohtem thinks its time to watch Grandma's Boy again Dec 23 00:29:50 im procrastinating horribly tonight.. i think ive played like 300 games of bejeweled blitz Dec 23 00:29:59 when i should be working on my canvas game Dec 23 00:32:00 dawm, i know what you mean Dec 23 00:32:10 i go home and play sc2 instead of working on my stuff :) Dec 23 00:32:20 mw2 here Dec 23 00:32:54 i got lostplanet2 today Dec 23 00:33:00 played it for a bit.. what an odd game Dec 23 00:33:06 is it possible via homebrew app to get a list of all the contacts in webOS? Dec 23 00:33:13 i only paid $2.10 shipped for it tho :D Dec 23 00:33:36 and when i return this cd (1.99+tax) ill get that 2.10 back Dec 23 00:35:16 sugardave: yeah Dec 23 00:35:22 just act like a palm app and done Dec 23 00:35:31 that's the part I'm trying to figure out Dec 23 00:35:40 so, com.palm.app.appname Dec 23 00:35:44 and then I'm lost Dec 23 00:35:52 i did com.palm.hattczech.appname Dec 23 00:35:57 i skip the .app part Dec 23 00:35:59 do I need to interact with the account service or just contacts Dec 23 00:36:02 let me look it up Dec 23 00:36:03 one sec Dec 23 00:36:06 cool, thanks Dec 23 00:36:45 hmmm, well mine is a contact picker and updater Dec 23 00:36:53 the updater is what requires the com.palm part Dec 23 00:37:00 but it should get you started Dec 23 00:37:07 sugardave: or you could dev on 2.0 that i think lets you mess with contacts Dec 23 00:37:08 it's okay, if I can just see how you interact with the service Dec 23 00:37:24 i think you can interact with the account service without the palm namespace Dec 23 00:37:29 fahhem: not an option, it's kind of a bogus thing but I'm still doing it Dec 23 00:37:48 oh ok Dec 23 00:38:07 dawm: you can, but only stuff that your app is going to deal with...the goal here is to randomly pick two contacts from the phone and display them on buttons, then launch their details on tap Dec 23 00:38:26 matching your friends app? Dec 23 00:39:19 fahhem: what it is, there's a guy on Elance who needs an app, but apparently he's been dealing with a bunch of idiots, so he made an invite-only job and wants to do a "can you follow directions" pre-screening thing Dec 23 00:39:32 unfortunately, he appears to have picked a "simple" app of impossibility :D Dec 23 00:40:28 ok soo.. i just leveled up.. and i know i leveled up lastnight before i went to bed.. so that means i scored like 6million today in bejeweled blitz.. is that alot? Dec 23 00:40:32 sugardave: http://webos.pastebin.com/D2bvR11j Dec 23 00:40:42 HattCzech_work: thanks, I will check it out :D Dec 23 00:40:58 very short, if you want more, just let me know Dec 23 00:41:12 ah, I see Dec 23 00:41:35 heheh, "i see" means "not helpful" :) lol Dec 23 00:41:37 I need to be able to run this method: listContacts Dec 23 00:41:49 and it wants an accountId for Synergyt stuff Dec 23 00:42:00 you don't need that if you're a palm app Dec 23 00:42:00 and I have NO clue what to send it as an accountId Dec 23 00:42:10 hmmm Dec 23 00:42:17 i had that problem when i was trying to make mine a legit app Dec 23 00:42:19 it is a required parameter Dec 23 00:42:20 then i gave up :) Dec 23 00:42:41 only if you do it the documented way :) Dec 23 00:42:52 hmm, will try some things, it may be borked because I have no contacts in the emu Dec 23 00:42:55 heh Dec 23 00:43:18 do you remember what you sent? just leave it out, or did you send it null or something? Dec 23 00:43:23 heheh, empty list in that case Dec 23 00:43:27 sent nothing Dec 23 00:43:31 sweet Dec 23 00:43:37 I will test it in a bit, thanks man! Dec 23 00:43:42 hang on one sec, i'll show you the main stuff Dec 23 00:43:52 cool Dec 23 00:46:46 should be more useful info with the whole files Dec 23 00:47:20 lol Dec 23 00:47:21 http://twitter.com/#!/rahulsood/status/17730657740398592 Dec 23 00:50:08 http://imgur.com/viJoS - lmao Dec 23 00:51:16 http://imgur.com/s/xPBD9 Dec 23 00:51:33 lol Dec 23 00:51:36 :) Dec 23 00:51:40 i like both of those Dec 23 00:51:44 but i am done for today Dec 23 00:51:47 adios, all Dec 23 00:52:53 is he really czech? Dec 23 00:53:11 soo.. my friend that got an epic to replace her pre.. im still trying to weasel her touchstones (all 3 of them ;P) Dec 23 00:53:50 ive got the deal down to me buying a screen protector for the epic in exchange for the touchstones Dec 23 00:53:57 ;D Dec 23 00:54:15 dohtem: he could be, there are a lot of Czechs in central Texas Dec 23 00:54:27 lol, lopsided deal Dec 23 00:54:30 just give her some seran wrap cut exactly for her screen and say it's ghost armor Dec 23 00:54:54 what i might do is cut out some black vinyl and give her that :P Dec 23 00:55:04 sugardave: ah, I always assumed he was in the Czech republic Dec 23 01:02:30 dawm: "weasel her touchstones?" is that what they're calling it these days? :P Dec 23 01:03:37 gives a new meaning to, "Pop goes the weasel" Dec 23 01:03:42 lol Dec 23 01:04:06 damn it Tibfib now i have to work on my app all cause you made me look at code Dec 23 01:04:21 lol Dec 23 01:11:23 crap, found an example app Birthdays, but can't install it from Preware :s Dec 23 01:11:34 can someone see if they can get it? Dec 23 01:13:25 sugardave: what are you working on? Dec 23 01:13:32 it's really stupid Dec 23 01:13:45 it's basically a barrier to entry for bidding on some mystery project Dec 23 01:14:12 what are you trying to do? Dec 23 01:14:26 does it have to be webos? Dec 23 01:14:59 yeah, webOS...I need a scene to grab 2 random contacts, place their names on buttons, then have the buttons open their details page Dec 23 01:15:10 can't do that without com.palm Dec 23 01:15:14 that's fine Dec 23 01:15:18 but I still don't know how to do it Dec 23 01:15:31 birthdays app uses calender I think. Dec 23 01:15:33 like I'm supposed to pass this account ID to the listContacts method Dec 23 01:15:37 I downloaded the source one time Dec 23 01:15:51 I just got Metaview's birthday one, hoping it has something Dec 23 01:16:02 oh wait Dec 23 01:16:03 no I didn't Dec 23 01:16:05 wtf? Dec 23 01:16:21 let me try this on my real phone...my parent's internet sucks Dec 23 01:17:28 just kidding, birthdays app uses contacts Dec 23 01:18:18 I still can't install the damn thing...wth? Dec 23 01:18:27 requested URL returned 404 Dec 23 01:21:38 okay, when I try to browse to ipkg.preware.org, every single package is returning a page "You don't have access here." is this normal? Dec 23 01:22:21 sugardave: little birdie says wait a few Dec 23 01:22:34 k, cool Dec 23 01:22:38 http://www.benjoffe.com/code/games/torus/ Dec 23 01:22:46 awesome canvas game Dec 23 01:53:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyCyzB0CedM&feature=player_embedded Dec 23 01:53:10 for those CoD lovers :P Dec 23 01:56:23 wow, too much effort went into that Dec 23 01:56:36 wow this js source is confusing as hell Dec 23 01:56:48 i honestly dont understand its layout Dec 23 01:58:27 ttyl folks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 23 02:59:58 2010