**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 30 02:59:58 2010 Dec 30 03:14:12 How can I do some big processing in a for loop while having a spinner spin? This seems like a single thread issue. I found a post regarding this but with no fix as far as the spinner is concerned. Any ideas? Dec 30 03:14:54 have you tried a setTimeout to animate the spinner? Dec 30 03:15:13 you could also look at preware's source since it does exactly that Dec 30 03:16:36 I started looking at Preware's source a little while ago but I'm still trying to understand what's going on there Dec 30 03:17:26 I didn't try a setTimeout. I set my spinner to start right from the beginning and show the scrim. I just hide the scrim when I am done without stopping the spinner actually. Dec 30 03:58:41 seriously? is this what the music industry has come to? Dec 30 03:58:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i287hxbZ8-k Dec 30 03:58:59 kesne has to be older than that kid Dec 30 03:59:37 Justin Beiber got popular so thereforeee Dec 30 04:00:33 he's like 10 Dec 30 04:04:56 Justin Beiber being signed on a DefJam based label just makes me lol even to this day Dec 30 04:10:04 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101229/ap_on_re_us/us_frogger_wreck Dec 30 04:23:44 omg, that simpson guy still has a kid-lisp lol Dec 30 04:42:10 man I forgot how ugly YouTube is by default Dec 30 04:44:18 is there some kind of pretty patch? Dec 30 04:44:34 you can theme youtube? Dec 30 04:44:48 * DougReeder waves hello Dec 30 04:45:50 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3372062/Safari%20Extensions/mTube/Index.html < I think the subtitle puts it best, "Fuck YouTube" Dec 30 04:47:10 I also threw this into the mix to completely remove Flash from YouTube and instead rely on the H264 versions of everything with an HTML5 player Dec 30 04:47:32 oh you meant on desktop Dec 30 04:47:51 what Dec 30 04:47:55 youtube desktop is iconic and elegant Dec 30 04:49:05 yes, if you want... ads down the side and some of the stupidest comments the internet can cook up D: Dec 30 04:56:26 hey man sometimes the video ain't enough Dec 30 04:57:56 sometimes you just want to read the most retarded comments to ever spew out of someone's mouth about how double rainbows are part of the CIA conspiracy to kill all brown people from AFAGASTAN on some video about cats or something! D: Dec 30 04:58:40 lol Dec 30 05:05:12 I like reading documentation for something that ends with something saying "We need to actually finish documenting this" :C Dec 30 05:07:56 there's a lot of apps that just need dox to be more popular Dec 30 05:22:04 * halfhalo pokes oil Dec 30 11:22:19 hey ppl Dec 30 11:22:42 what's everyone up to this cold-ass thursday? Dec 30 13:05:10 cold? :P Dec 30 13:06:15 he's in sweden Dec 30 13:09:38 ya I know Dec 30 13:09:50 it's cold here too, but probably not as cold ;) Dec 30 13:10:00 its cold in Denmark too.. Dec 30 13:10:25 just -6C here, perfect to go outside! Dec 30 13:42:19 hrm, even with a scene on it's own the spinner doesn't spin Dec 30 14:23:50 * m0nk3yd0g is a wIRC n00bie Dec 30 14:28:15 not irc? :) Dec 30 14:31:14 irc too! it's been, like, 20 years since I've used it Dec 30 14:31:38 gah. Symbian is so dumb imho. When installing an app off from sd it asks "Install app.." yes/no and then when you simply press that nav button it selects yes. Most intuitive UI.. Dec 30 14:31:45 you're kidding me Dec 30 14:32:28 sadly, no. I'm 44. used it in college. Dec 30 14:33:33 Welcome back then Dec 30 14:35:24 man, you're old :p Dec 30 14:36:08 At least he's honest about it Dec 30 14:36:20 no lie :) Dec 30 14:43:03 lol Dec 30 14:43:16 course i'd probably get "damn, you're young" in reply :P Dec 30 14:44:09 So how young are you? 43? ;) Dec 30 14:45:34 just turned 21 Dec 30 14:45:56 Happy Birthday Dec 30 14:46:05 lol Dec 30 14:46:07 last month :P Dec 30 15:43:58 I run this loop (http://pastebin.com/iCufGtNk) at the beginning of my app and when this line doesn't seem to update the GUI: SpinnerAssistant.prototype.setProgress(parseInt(i / holidayListArray.length * 100)); and the spinner doesn't spin. What could be causing this? Dec 30 15:53:57 Spanska: you've made sure there are no errors? Dec 30 15:55:35 yes, no uncaught exceptions or things like that either Dec 30 16:03:15 I have the same issue if I run this code: http://pastebin.com/xauGhxxg Dec 30 16:04:47 umm. I'd say the issue is with the code executed too fast Dec 30 16:05:47 console.log("v:" + v + that works right? Dec 30 16:06:12 yes it does, I can see all output Dec 30 16:09:15 Hard to say without knowing what your setProgress does.. I've never done such spinner either Dec 30 16:09:36 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9370&view=next Dec 30 16:09:54 This seems relevant to my problem, I just don't understand how setTimeout or setInterval would help Dec 30 16:18:27 I think it's about the loop freezing up the phone or something like that. Dec 30 16:26:57 the phone still freezes even if I only keep this line: SpinnerAssistant.prototype.setProgress(parseInt(i / holidayListArray.length * 100)); Dec 30 17:34:17 are there any pretty open source dashboard spinners? Dec 30 17:47:14 Moooooo Dec 30 18:05:33 finally found a way Dec 30 18:28:57 * oilsworkn is bored at work :( Dec 30 18:29:30 morning oilsworkn Dec 30 18:29:31 * halfhalo points oilsworkn at gitosis.preyourmind.org Dec 30 18:29:42 hey JenP Dec 30 18:30:11 halfhalo: this has patchportal code im supposed to peruse? Dec 30 18:30:34 * oilsworkn points out that its blocked by login stuffs Dec 30 18:41:27 whats everyone doin for new years? Dec 30 18:41:34 party? Dec 30 19:11:10 Oil when is wirc hitting the palm catalog? Dec 30 19:12:28 lol Dec 30 19:12:38 probably when the catalog allows hybrid apps Dec 30 19:29:04 how many years do you think that will take Dec 30 19:29:22 over 9000 Dec 30 19:30:08 "in the coming months" Dec 30 19:52:31 that could mean years when it comes to Palm Dec 30 19:53:17 they are moving so slow on everything Dec 30 19:53:54 it's almost like webos don't even exist anymore. its android, blackberry ios and other Dec 30 20:10:48 hello Dec 30 20:14:39 hi Dec 30 20:15:47 ready to say adios to 2010 Dec 30 20:37:40 renegaid: when palm lets us submit it Dec 30 20:38:38 oil: and this is the awesome thing about gatekeepers Dec 30 20:39:01 :P Dec 30 20:39:47 yeah :/ Dec 30 20:44:33 anyone gotten the new freetether? Dec 30 20:45:09 and if so, which feed is it in? Dec 30 20:45:30 dont believe its released yet Dec 30 20:45:50 damn you precentral for getting my hopes up! Dec 30 20:46:07 im pretty sure precentral said it would be a week or so before a release Dec 30 20:46:14 maybe puff and egaudet will drop it when the ball drops in NYC Dec 30 20:46:31 hehehe Dec 30 20:46:43 maybe i should read the whole article next time :/ Dec 30 20:47:01 "Best of all, although the UI is subject to change, this new version of freeTether is expected to be ready for release within a week." Dec 30 20:47:39 Yeah they havent deployed yet Dec 30 20:47:49 Anyone know of a good Bluetooth keyboard Dec 30 20:47:53 you could always hit up the repo and build it from source yourself :) Dec 30 20:49:35 I dont think it makes much sense to build a wireless bluetooth keyboard Dec 30 20:50:13 yeah, i was talking about freetether, not your bt keyboard question Dec 30 20:50:14 haha Dec 30 20:50:46 yeah, but then it's not in the feed :) Dec 30 20:50:51 I remember back in the days when palm started taking off, and you could buy like 30 different *paq style devices Dec 30 20:51:00 BT Keyboards were everywhere Dec 30 20:51:11 wireless*** Dec 30 20:51:18 * oil is using a bt keyboard right now Dec 30 20:51:29 now I cant find good one that folds Dec 30 20:51:36 it doesnt fold, lol Dec 30 20:51:43 ps/2 keyboard ftw! Dec 30 20:51:54 your mom FTW Dec 30 20:51:55 ! Dec 30 20:52:00 (not really, i use a ysb keyboard) Dec 30 20:52:04 usb* even Dec 30 20:56:49 CTLAdvance: you can use the palm one.. Dec 30 20:56:55 oil: git or girorious? Dec 30 20:57:03 it predates the pre but should work just fine I expect Dec 30 20:57:04 gitorious* Dec 30 20:57:09 uh Dec 30 20:57:18 git.webosinternals.org? Dec 30 20:57:21 (where are the repos? Dec 30 20:57:28 okay Dec 30 20:58:08 error 503 Dec 30 20:58:12 is the server down? Dec 30 20:58:16 oh, - Dec 30 20:58:34 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/freetether.git;a=summary Dec 30 20:58:52 dont say server down or ka6sox will appear and kill you Dec 30 20:59:03 oh, fair enough Dec 30 20:59:07 lol Dec 30 20:59:11 lol Dec 30 20:59:25 i'm getting "Error 503 Service Unavailable Service Unavailable Guru Meditation: XID: 1292164299" Dec 30 20:59:38 works here :/ Dec 30 20:59:39 from my point of view, that means server not working Dec 30 20:59:46 stupid work! give me a second Dec 30 20:59:55 is he the one the xkcd comic was modeled after? Dec 30 21:00:29 ASDJHG! why are they blocking this!? Dec 30 21:00:43 okay, it works, just not through my proxy at work for some reason Dec 30 21:00:44 http://www.luckham.org/LHL.Bell%20Labs%20Days.html -- awesome pics from bell labs in the 60s Dec 30 21:01:37 nice mutton chops Dec 30 21:02:09 lol Dec 30 21:02:29 on git, what does snapshot do? is that a zip of the content? Dec 30 21:02:38 look at the ladies outfits... feels like I'm watching Mad Men or something. Dec 30 21:02:44 HattCzech_work: yeah Dec 30 21:02:54 you're going to need to do a lot though Dec 30 21:02:58 build the service Dec 30 21:03:02 all that Dec 30 21:03:07 okay, pre didn't like it and just gave me "filemtyvaP" Dec 30 21:03:15 ohhh, that's right Dec 30 21:03:55 damn, looks like i need to learn what patience is Dec 30 21:04:39 lol Dec 30 21:04:43 * oil suggests google Dec 30 21:06:09 is rwhitby awake yet? Dec 30 21:06:18 he is camping for the next few days Dec 30 21:06:31 ah, dang Dec 30 21:06:45 anyone have a qnap nas and play with it? Dec 30 21:06:47 hopefully no dingos get to him Dec 30 21:07:06 lol Dec 30 21:08:43 btkeyboard on a tiny pre? Dec 30 21:09:13 how do you manage? Dec 30 21:10:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0 Dec 30 21:10:12 xD Dec 30 21:14:08 brb Dec 30 21:16:38 now im stuck in youtube sinefield related clip endless loop! Dec 30 21:16:46 * oil goes back to work Dec 30 22:24:32 word up homie g dawgs Dec 30 22:26:22 * dohtem throws up his 'p' sign Dec 30 22:26:40 Just bought a wiiiiiii today Dec 30 22:26:56 About to pimp it out with an external hdd hack Dec 30 22:27:52 nice... Im on the fence between a Kinect and a Wii Dec 30 22:28:24 I'd rather not spend an extra 150 for a kinect Dec 30 22:28:38 * dohtem already has a 360 Dec 30 22:29:54 My love for consoles and their controllers died after ps 1 and I can't stand console controllers anymore, but the wii is different. its more a tool than a controller Dec 30 22:30:51 HAHA wtf!!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjYj5-fKVIY Dec 30 22:30:55 uh Dec 30 22:31:07 kinect > wii Dec 30 22:31:15 especially if you already have a 360 Dec 30 22:31:39 b0bben: that's gotta be so illegal Dec 30 22:31:45 All a matter of opinion, but deez here channels about to get heated Dec 30 22:32:05 anivrom, the wii is so dated it's not funny :P Dec 30 22:32:08 * dohtem cancels Anivrom's BET Dec 30 22:32:20 dohtem: but he's got his warning lights on! so it's not a problem ;) Dec 30 22:32:28 still, he's going like 70km/h Dec 30 22:32:50 haha Dec 30 22:32:53 that's awesome Dec 30 22:33:32 Anivrom! Dec 30 22:33:49 Anivrom: long time no see Dec 30 22:34:17 Anivrom! Dec 30 22:36:10 oh hai Dec 30 22:36:40 what a pain to get a wii connected to my wifi. Dec 30 22:36:58 Indeed Dec 30 22:40:40 jspecmugen! Dec 30 22:40:46 :) Dec 30 22:40:48 Bell, hows it going in snow-land Dec 30 22:40:55 b3ll* Dec 30 22:41:10 hiya Anivrom Dec 30 22:41:16 it's going alright Dec 30 22:41:22 just built an igloo.... -.- Dec 30 22:41:26 You didnt get stuck in any of that mess a couple weeks ago eh? Dec 30 22:41:46 haha not on the highway Dec 30 22:41:53 but my front lawn did have snow up to my chest Dec 30 22:41:57 and I'm 6.2" Dec 30 22:42:03 I know someone who was stuck for 15 hours Dec 30 22:42:07 holy crap Dec 30 22:42:08 :P Dec 30 22:42:13 what state is that? Dec 30 22:42:15 yea they had to call in the army Dec 30 22:42:20 canada lol Dec 30 22:42:23 oh Dec 30 22:42:52 pssh! you guys are eskimos and inuits.. you can handle that kind of snow Dec 30 22:45:41 oh yea cuz u know Dec 30 22:45:53 I just eat snow all day Dec 30 22:46:11 lmao, srsly we haven't gotten this much snow in like 5 years Dec 30 22:47:06 :) Dec 30 22:53:46 lol... dohtem! Dec 30 22:54:01 you know it's funny, I only JUST realized what your name means :P Dec 30 22:54:15 most people dont till I point it out :) Dec 30 22:54:24 hehe Dec 30 22:54:36 what's the nissan key for in your profile pic? Dec 30 22:54:47 my pos altima Dec 30 22:55:29 01-06 right? Dec 30 22:55:40 i'd guess 01-03 2.5? Dec 30 22:55:43 02-06 Dec 30 22:55:48 but 02 Dec 30 22:55:49 if you're calling it a pos Dec 30 22:56:01 after 06, they went keyless Dec 30 22:56:27 yeah, forgot the 01 was still old style too Dec 30 22:56:32 yup Dec 30 22:56:35 i had an 06 se-r Dec 30 22:56:40 i loved that car Dec 30 22:56:47 what happened? Dec 30 22:56:56 complicated woman story Dec 30 22:57:12 * dohtem opens up some popcorn Dec 30 22:57:16 so... Dec 30 22:57:16 broke up with an ex... and i kept the dogs... she kept the cars Dec 30 22:57:19 lol Dec 30 22:57:22 haha, I had a 90 maxima and an 89 sentra, I loved both those cars Dec 30 22:57:52 we had an 03 350z track and 06 SE-R... on her credit, but i made the bread, so i paid for them Dec 30 22:58:05 when we broke up, she went psycho, and i told her to keep the cars :P Dec 30 22:58:15 it was kind of a dick'ed thing to do... Dec 30 22:58:24 ...but then again. she was being psycho. Dec 30 22:58:52 ouch Dec 30 23:00:14 I want some SER tails but I dont think I want to spend anymore on my alty Dec 30 23:00:14 the Z was my baby :( Dec 30 23:00:45 a 350z would be nice :c Dec 30 23:00:52 I'm growing to like my S10 though... Dec 30 23:01:01 s10? Dec 30 23:01:10 chevy? Dec 30 23:01:21 http://cid-0a5f78610c3adf5a.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?page=play&resid=A5F78610C3ADF5A!190 Dec 30 23:01:31 yeah Dec 30 23:01:53 those were the latest pics i have of it... before the engine modifications started :( Dec 30 23:02:08 hey sine :D Dec 30 23:02:24 hey hey Dec 30 23:02:38 install silverlight? booo Dec 30 23:02:49 to view that link? Dec 30 23:02:54 yeah Dec 30 23:03:16 that's ghetto Dec 30 23:03:38 http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pojnw_N_XoRYnD8Mhohj3A-ln0Gkz0NKDgDl6CnOyuiE2MXRQtVclB3CS5AZa0oXXlqDicYgoZPo9Qm5ZQN9gzA/IMG_4771%20(Medium).JPG?psid=1 Dec 30 23:03:55 nice Dec 30 23:04:12 19x10.5 in the rear Dec 30 23:04:25 i loved those wheels... so much grip Dec 30 23:04:59 http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pQUF1fNdrXLtIAjQ88m0EfdX4PMkXUXjfsY--Avi1mClmp2FzMWliu9REUx0Yf7ajakyw9XI4p1llAZYfgnsYIg/IMG_4773%20(Medium).JPG?psid=1 Dec 30 23:05:00 do you at least still have the dogs? Dec 30 23:05:13 :) Dec 30 23:05:15 uh huh :D i love my dogs Dec 30 23:07:07 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v59/43/116/613890281/n613890281_32385_4062.jpg Dec 30 23:07:13 tascha and lennix :) Dec 30 23:07:47 hurts to lose the Z but nice dogs, man Dec 30 23:08:18 yeah... i'd go bonkers without them Dec 30 23:08:58 we got some snow here in phoenix today... Dec 30 23:11:14 cats > dogs pshhaw Dec 30 23:12:20 both are nice, but cats are usually less of a pain :) Dec 30 23:12:24 no training required Dec 30 23:13:23 until they decide to go apeshit and scratch your eyes out Dec 30 23:13:35 heh Dec 30 23:14:19 lol Dec 30 23:14:27 no claws = no missing eyes Dec 30 23:14:28 that's half the fun! Dec 30 23:14:44 don't put your cat in your face = no missing eyes XD Dec 30 23:14:50 lol, true Dec 30 23:15:21 anyone here use a qnap nas? Dec 30 23:15:55 let me rephrase the question: anyone here good with linux? (port forwarding and php are nice as well) Dec 30 23:17:16 lol Dec 30 23:17:25 HattCzech_work, yes... :) Dec 30 23:17:40 i'm good with linux... but never used qnap nas Dec 30 23:17:40 i have a web server and an admin site for my nas Dec 30 23:17:55 i would like them to both use port 443 (https) Dec 30 23:18:04 it won't let me use the same port for both services Dec 30 23:18:28 so i'd like to hit a php page on port 443 that can redirect me to the admin page Dec 30 23:18:35 hi all Dec 30 23:18:37 without hitting another port Dec 30 23:18:38 hold on... Dec 30 23:18:45 JenP, heya! how're you? Dec 30 23:18:57 well. how are you? Dec 30 23:19:10 HattCzech_work, are you trying to have two processes on the same port? cause that can't/won't happen Dec 30 23:19:27 JenP, i'm okay i spose... ready to kill 2010 :P start '11 already. Dec 30 23:19:37 essentially, yes, but they don't NEED to be on the same port Dec 30 23:19:44 i just would like to access them through the same port Dec 30 23:20:00 lol. yes I've ready too Dec 30 23:20:02 my workplace only allows access to sites with ports 80 and 443 Dec 30 23:20:09 dohtem/sineot, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFoMw69VXw <-- sisters demonic cat. love her to death... but she's nutso Dec 30 23:21:34 HattCzech_work, you'd need a proxy server that could do that for you... Dec 30 23:21:41 lol ok that freaked my cat out Dec 30 23:21:47 hehe Dec 30 23:21:48 haha Dec 30 23:22:04 lucy is wonderful aslong as you don't look her in the eyes Dec 30 23:22:14 (unless you're my sister or brother-in-law Dec 30 23:22:17 haha Dec 30 23:22:45 ...but alas, she has adopted the nickname lucifer Dec 30 23:23:01 lol Dec 30 23:23:42 i came home from work the other day and was told by my neighbor my cat has anxiety attacks when i'm gone. Dec 30 23:23:52 that's not good Dec 30 23:24:05 So the neighborhood kids sit on my welcome matt and talk to her to calm her down Dec 30 23:24:18 nice Dec 30 23:24:47 yeah....she's a princess Dec 30 23:25:00 mugen-: can i setup a proxy server through php to manage? (i've looked a few for proxy purposes, but haven't in this respect) Dec 30 23:25:54 HattCzech_work, i need to think about it for a little bit... i had a similar problem a couple years back and i'm trying to remember the tool i used... Dec 30 23:26:03 JenP, that's so cute :) Dec 30 23:26:11 cool, thanks Dec 30 23:26:30 our cats are... well, probably the chillest things around Dec 30 23:26:45 but that's what happens when one of them got bottle raised from day one Dec 30 23:27:43 SineOt: same with mine Dec 30 23:27:51 (one of them... the other is a bit... off) :) Dec 30 23:27:57 one of them is basically a brick Dec 30 23:28:05 you can pick him up and do whatever and he's just like PURR Dec 30 23:28:16 what about cats? Dec 30 23:28:18 mines a pound kitty. but probably the best cat i've ever owned Dec 30 23:28:51 i have 1 rescue an 1 that i bottle fed cuz she was abandoned as the runt of the litter (she's a munchkin) Dec 30 23:28:58 two of these are feral rescues, I suppose? Not sure what to call them Dec 30 23:29:12 My family has a cat that was abondoned as a runt Dec 30 23:29:15 too Dec 30 23:29:26 those are the best kind Dec 30 23:30:00 got him at like a week old Dec 30 23:30:51 he is a bit strange though, doesnt like to be held, loves whipped cream and dripping water Dec 30 23:31:20 interesting... i got mine at around a week or two, and i can hold her like a baby Dec 30 23:31:58 Some cats are just weird Dec 30 23:32:26 yeah, my other one always likes to talk to me Dec 30 23:32:33 and opens all of my drawers and cabinets Dec 30 23:33:01 he likes to anoy me if i let him in my room Dec 30 23:33:57 she just likes to annoy me unless i'm petting her :) Dec 30 23:34:41 other cat we have (both are very small) is from the pound loves to be held and talks alot Dec 30 23:35:11 loves to eat, and is very fat despite being small Dec 30 23:35:32 hehehe Dec 30 23:35:45 luckily, niether of mine are fat Dec 30 23:37:00 will carry stuff around in her mouth like toy balls, enjoys shredding cardboard, and when yowling for my sister to come play with her sounds like she is saying my sisters name Dec 30 23:37:13 lol awesome Dec 30 23:38:10 and loves to lick plastic, can;t figure out why? getting plenty of food Dec 30 23:38:22 mine likes tape Dec 30 23:38:51 chews on plastic, but licks tape Dec 30 23:39:12 dog? Dec 30 23:39:22 cat Dec 30 23:39:42 mine licks on bags and chews on string Dec 30 23:40:12 have to make sure not to leave string laying around Dec 30 23:41:13 anyone tried the mplayer port yet, i havent. Dec 30 23:41:54 SineOt, awe :) that's like tascha... i got her from a pound in tucson. went down to rescue a pitbull i had seen online... and i walked through the door and she had JUST arrived. she was 7 weeks old and was being bottle fed... Dec 30 23:42:03 my heart exploded Dec 30 23:44:55 well, mugen-, think about my question if you have time Dec 30 23:45:02 but i am off for now Dec 30 23:45:12 adios, all! have a good new year! Dec 30 23:45:21 (i may be back on before then, but who knows) Dec 30 23:45:35 bye! Dec 30 23:49:43 soooooooo Dec 30 23:49:58 any big NYeve plans? Dec 30 23:50:01 ...anyone? Dec 30 23:50:08 nope. Dec 30 23:50:14 nope. Dec 30 23:50:21 nope. Dec 30 23:50:24 heh Dec 30 23:50:29 gah... my submenu code works in one scene, doesnt work in another. Same code, different variable names but it just craps out Dec 30 23:50:36 Drink. Smoke. Watch the Adventure Time marathon. Dec 30 23:50:41 err, different command names Dec 30 23:50:50 i remember being so excited for new years eve back when i was 18-20 Dec 30 23:51:01 parties... raves... friends... good times... Dec 30 23:51:44 everytime I hear rave, I think of those huge jnco jeans Dec 30 23:51:47 sine, smoke? cigars/cigs, or something better? :D Dec 30 23:52:07 stupid candy ravers Dec 30 23:52:13 lol Dec 30 23:52:26 those big ass necklaces and beads Dec 30 23:52:31 so rediculous Dec 30 23:53:38 ok so i've tried 5 times to watch the movie "precious" and I just can get past the first 30 mins Dec 30 23:54:11 ...how come? Dec 30 23:54:30 idk...i just don't like it Dec 30 23:55:29 oh Dec 30 23:56:33 ...that sucks? Dec 30 23:56:45 uh, better probably Dec 30 23:56:52 lol idk. anyone watch it and like it? Dec 30 23:57:27 or should i say...can anyone tell me if it's worth forcing myself to watch the movie? Dec 30 23:57:34 i've never seen it... Dec 30 23:57:50 that's the one with mariah carey or whatever, and she's got hairy legs? Dec 30 23:58:00 ? Dec 30 23:58:12 ahhhh mugen- noooooooooooooooooo Dec 30 23:58:14 really large girl who's pregnant Dec 30 23:58:22 i have no idea... i just remember hearing local radio personalities blasting it Dec 30 23:58:50 http://movies.netflix.com/WiSearch?oq=preci&ac_posn=1&v1=Precious%3A+Based+on+the+Novel+Push+by+Sapphire&search_submit= Dec 30 23:59:05 SineOt, what? hairy legs or my previous question? Dec 30 23:59:33 the question in general :p Dec 30 23:59:48 uh huh ;) you're secret is safe with me Dec 31 00:00:07 JenP, yeah... i'm thinking the right movie... but it was mo'nique Dec 31 00:00:09 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1244457/Precious-actress-MoNique-shows-hairy-legs-Golden-Globe-awards.html Dec 31 00:00:12 lol Dec 31 00:00:15 * mugen- shudders Dec 31 00:00:25 lol Dec 31 00:00:39 oh never made it past the hairy arm pits (monique) Dec 31 00:00:56 bleh Dec 31 00:01:13 that is the grossest picture Dec 31 00:01:21 i'm gonna have nightmares about it Dec 31 00:01:22 i didn't look Dec 31 00:01:28 i just copied the link Dec 31 00:01:55 i'm all for women feeling liberated, bla bla bla... Dec 31 00:02:00 but uhm... yeaaaaaahhhhhh Dec 31 00:02:11 what's all this I hear about a "freetether" Dec 31 00:02:16 ah well..you have to look. you subjected me to it Dec 31 00:02:19 is it available for sprint pre Dec 31 00:02:39 AWE WTF Dec 31 00:02:54 * mugen- scratches his eyes out... Dec 31 00:03:07 my bad Dec 31 00:03:32 man, it's not that bad :p Dec 31 00:04:10 hold on... let me put it all together for you tho brother Dec 31 00:04:17 you're in bed with your girl Dec 31 00:04:28 you wrap up with her, and spoon her... Dec 31 00:04:44 and you run your leg up hers... and THAT'S what you feel Dec 31 00:05:39 lmao Dec 31 00:06:21 JenP: I'm with you... I can watch a ton of stuff but once people told me what Precious was about, I didnt bother Dec 31 00:06:44 ;p Dec 31 00:06:49 yeah i just can't get through it Dec 31 00:13:34 sounds like one of those movies where you have to be in the right mindspace to enjoy it Dec 31 00:41:39 hello Dec 31 00:41:59 is novacomd supposed to find a Palm Pre2 connected on USB? Dec 31 00:42:23 if you have the latest drivers installed Dec 31 00:43:09 1.0.64, right? is it public yet? Dec 31 00:43:24 i don't know versions yet Dec 31 00:44:13 of course, dropbox is down! FAAAACK!! Dec 31 00:44:25 I think you can get it to load if you start(but you don't have to finish) the pre2 doctor Dec 31 00:46:56 http://visualoop.tumblr.com/post/2526664373/2000-vs-2010-how-the-world-has-changed Dec 31 00:47:06 wow Dec 31 00:47:16 back in 2000 8 out of 100 people had a cellphone subscription Dec 31 00:47:23 now 76.2 out of 100 do Dec 31 00:48:19 i know i had a cellphone in 2000 :P a nextel (which i think i still have) and a nokia Dec 31 00:53:11 yeah that was the year after I graduated from HS, I didn't know anyone with a cell phone, and one friend had a pager, poor bastards mom had him on a short leash, now his wife does Dec 31 00:53:55 i had a Fido/Clearnet Sanyo :D Dec 31 00:59:26 both of mine were work phones Dec 31 00:59:37 i dont think i actually had 'my own' cell phone until like 2002 Dec 31 00:59:48 some free sprint sanyo (which i know i still have ;p) Dec 31 01:00:06 what?! back to the future video game? Dec 31 01:00:16 http://store.steampowered.com/a Dec 31 01:00:17 er Dec 31 01:00:21 http://store.steampowered.com/app/31290 Dec 31 01:02:34 its $25~ and doesnt even follow the movie story line.. wtf Dec 31 01:02:48 supposed to be a good game though Dec 31 01:03:09 you cant just change shit after its been set in stone for years.. Dec 31 01:03:20 thats like remaking smurfs and their all giants now Dec 31 01:05:47 whoa! Dec 31 01:05:55 gamestop.com lets you order online and pickup in store.. finally Dec 31 01:08:02 still amazed they haven't realized they're the next blockbuster yet Dec 31 01:17:27 dun dun Dec 31 01:18:13 you know it's odd to consider the recording of 9/11 if it were to happen in 2010 Dec 31 01:18:32 2001 it was all crappy .3 megapixel flip phone cameras, or most phones didn't even have cameras Dec 31 01:19:09 nowadays there would be recordings from every angle in 720p Dec 31 01:23:23 nah, you want to really get odd... twitter. Dec 31 01:24:36 I don't think more than one plane would've reached its destination Dec 31 01:25:28 of course the reaction that confused me most was armed soldiers in the airports Dec 31 01:37:49 oh lawd Dec 31 01:38:05 everybody would be tweeting and uploading the videos to youtube as it happens Dec 31 01:39:30 in air wifi Dec 31 01:39:42 oh god Dec 31 01:40:00 @johnsykes this is BULLSHIT #flight93 Dec 31 01:40:17 trending topics .... Dec 31 01:40:17 tasteless joke of the day Dec 31 01:41:08 well actually let's be real Dec 31 01:41:19 the second it all starts twitter would be down Dec 31 01:43:58 * oil would be all "weren't oure freedoms stolen from us to stop this?" Dec 31 01:46:00 yeah but the TSA wouldn't have battered down if it hadn't happened Dec 31 01:46:06 (i think?) Dec 31 01:46:19 so then f it happened in 2010 we'd be stripping naked by 2011 Dec 31 01:46:24 maybe tweeting about it too Dec 31 01:46:55 @johnsykes yeah they checked my prostate on a two way to wisconsin #911 Dec 31 01:59:15 hey peeps Dec 31 01:59:28 has anyone implemented a "pull to refresh" gesture in webOS? Dec 31 02:01:11 funkatron: tweet jar has it, but it doesn't work very well Dec 31 02:01:24 Tibfib: yeah? what isn't so hot about it? Dec 31 02:01:34 it isn't very sensitive Dec 31 02:01:40 it's REALLY hard to get it to work Dec 31 02:01:46 interesting Dec 31 02:01:55 I don't think he finished it though Dec 31 02:02:21 I wonder if it's a matter of tweaking, or fundamental to the approach Dec 31 02:02:26 yeah, dunno Dec 31 02:02:53 do you want it to happen when you hold it down? or just pulling it down? Dec 31 02:03:11 pulling down Dec 31 02:03:13 it would easy ish for pulling it down, hard for holding Dec 31 02:03:23 listen to a flick event on the scroller Dec 31 02:03:27 I always did like how tweetie did it Dec 31 02:03:34 well Dec 31 02:03:36 check if the scroller is at the top, if so, refresh Dec 31 02:04:50 somebody said badkitty has it. is that true? Dec 31 02:04:55 lemme check Dec 31 02:05:20 it does Dec 31 02:05:23 that makes sense Dec 31 02:05:28 it does it the way I was talking about Dec 31 02:05:33 right Dec 31 02:05:48 so just any flick when scroller is at top Dec 31 02:05:58 pretty much Dec 31 02:07:16 do you use a custom scroller in spaz? Dec 31 02:07:23 not anymore Dec 31 02:07:41 mmkay Dec 31 02:07:42 badkitty does it sweet Dec 31 02:07:47 suhweet Dec 31 02:08:13 yeah, spaz just uses a normal Mojo List now Dec 31 02:08:53 now this motivates me strongly to put it in Spaz 8) Dec 31 02:08:59 heh Dec 31 02:09:06 I'm looking through my code for scroller stuff Dec 31 02:09:19 yeah if you have thoughts about it that would be cool Dec 31 02:10:11 I do prefer the idea of how Tweetie did it on iOS, where you had to pull down to a certain threshold and let go Dec 31 02:11:21 yeah, that's cooler Dec 31 02:11:29 but I don't have any idea how to do that :) Dec 31 02:11:43 it's really up to whether the gesture stuff in Mojo supports it Dec 31 02:11:53 you might be able to modify the scroller widget to do it Dec 31 02:12:03 I am not motivated to write my own gesture code Dec 31 02:12:04 right Dec 31 02:12:05 hmm Dec 31 02:12:31 * Tibfib browses scroller code Dec 31 02:14:05 you might be able to start a timer at drag start if it's at the top, and then check it at drag end Dec 31 02:14:15 right Dec 31 02:15:08 you could watch the scroll position and if its enough positive, run the refresh code Dec 31 02:15:18 yeah Dec 31 02:15:26 I really should make a simple test app for this Dec 31 02:15:26 can you subscribe to it? Dec 31 02:15:29 but I'll make it harder Dec 31 02:15:31 look at the swipe to delete stuff Dec 31 02:15:52 oh, that's a good point Dec 31 02:16:06 cause it only catches after a certain amount its moved Dec 31 02:16:12 might be in the framework code Dec 31 02:16:25 oh hey: Mojo.Event.scrollStarting Dec 31 02:16:27 list code looks at drag start Dec 31 02:17:05 this.controller.listen(this.friendsSideScrollerElement, Mojo.Event.scrollStarting, this.scrollerMoveHandler); Dec 31 02:17:20 yeah Dec 31 02:17:30 then you listen for moved Dec 31 02:17:38 i would copy/paste, but its more lines Dec 31 02:17:44 funkatron: set a timeout at scroll start? Dec 31 02:17:55 then check position Dec 31 02:17:59 that could work Dec 31 02:18:08 oil: friendpaste.org? Dec 31 02:18:15 wrong url Dec 31 02:18:21 http://www.friendpaste.com/ Dec 31 02:18:37 http://webos.pastebin.com/3s9bZWNR Dec 31 02:19:05 what's that code from? Dec 31 02:19:15 my xbox friends list app Dec 31 02:19:19 gotcha Dec 31 02:19:57 i use that to handle resizing as things comeinto view Dec 31 02:20:12 should be able to detect if its positive for a refresh Dec 31 02:20:24 makes sense Dec 31 02:20:25 hmmm Dec 31 02:20:36 I'll experiment with this Dec 31 02:20:52 yeah, i bind those functions previously too Dec 31 02:23:29 http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/30/samsung-4-5-inch-flexible-amoled-display-to-be-shown-at-ces/ Dec 31 02:23:45 meh Dec 31 02:23:58 your a meh Dec 31 02:24:03 “Only 2mm thick, the 4.5 inch flexible AMOLED runs at a WVGA 800 x 480 resolution and can be rolled down to a one centimeter radius” Dec 31 02:24:07 crazy stuff at ces useless Dec 31 02:24:15 * halfhalo will steal it Dec 31 02:24:16 it always seems like car shows where they show off prototypes Dec 31 02:24:21 and its all bad ass Dec 31 02:24:24 a resolution that currently 4 times better than anything out there. Dec 31 02:24:25 NEVER comes out Dec 31 02:24:26 omg Dec 31 02:24:30 I mean.... borrow... late at night Dec 31 02:24:33 4x better than retina display?! Dec 31 02:25:19 Samsung Galaxy X w/ Droid Vision Dec 31 02:25:22 oil, I'm confused about this bit of the code where you add another listener to the event Dec 31 02:25:27 yeah Dec 31 02:25:28 Just hadn't seen it before Dec 31 02:25:31 i got that from somewhere else Dec 31 02:25:40 * oil doesnt mess with what works :) Dec 31 02:25:43 hahah Dec 31 02:25:46 fair enough Dec 31 02:25:49 lol Dec 31 02:27:17 i think its from the sample code or somewhere Dec 31 02:27:27 I see something similar here: http://code.google.com/p/palm-webos-examples/source/browse/webos-Mojo-matters/app/assistants/nestedscroller-assistant.js?r=9 Dec 31 02:27:38 yeah, how the hell… Dec 31 02:27:51 lol Dec 31 02:28:04 if it aint broke, dont fix it :) Dec 31 02:28:08 right Dec 31 02:28:22 but yeah, i've never seen a listener inside an event handler like that before either Dec 31 02:28:28 or for anything else Dec 31 02:29:13 right Dec 31 02:29:54 maybe its just because the scroller widget is so crazy Dec 31 02:30:07 anyone here willing to help me edit an app announcement? Dec 31 02:30:37 Just check it over :) Dec 31 02:30:47 * oil sucks at that kind of stuff Dec 31 02:30:55 * oil lets rwhitby handle all that :) Dec 31 02:30:57 * Tibfib does too Dec 31 02:31:32 ill look it over see if it makes sense though Dec 31 02:31:50 thanks! sending pm Dec 31 02:33:17 heh Dec 31 02:35:55 oh wait Dec 31 02:35:57 I think I see Dec 31 02:36:20 * oil waits for wisdom to be imparted Dec 31 02:36:22 I think "moved" is a magic-ish method in an assistant Dec 31 02:36:26 lemme try that Dec 31 02:36:44 hmmm maybe not Dec 31 02:37:00 it's just that this example: http://code.google.com/p/palm-webos-examples/source/browse/webos-Mojo-matters/app/assistants/nestedscroller-assistant.js?r=9 Dec 31 02:37:01 im tellin ya, just stick with the funky adding of event listener, haha Dec 31 02:37:06 is binding shit to "this" Dec 31 02:37:08 yeah, I dig Dec 31 02:37:12 it works, I have it working Dec 31 02:37:30 yeah, i dont know about that Dec 31 02:38:08 maybe that like exposes the methods in the assistant to the scroller events? Dec 31 02:38:21 yeah Dec 31 02:38:28 I think it's just the technique this guy used Dec 31 02:38:35 instead of like the sample i used, where i specify that moved is this function Dec 31 02:38:39 right Dec 31 02:38:47 I think it's magic shit in the scroller widget Dec 31 02:38:51 yeah Dec 31 02:38:59 i looked at the scroller code once, it gave me a headache Dec 31 02:39:10 yeah I bet Dec 31 02:39:17 this kinda looks interesting though: Mojo.Widget.Scroller.createThreshholder Dec 31 02:39:22 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1929&Itemid=239#.createThreshholder Dec 31 02:39:35 hm Dec 31 02:39:50 knowing your approach works is more interesting Dec 31 02:39:54 but that's kinda curious Dec 31 02:39:56 lol Dec 31 02:41:06 ah-hah http://www.google.com/codesearch?as_q=createThreshholder&btnG=Search+Code&hl=en&as_package=&as_lang=javascript&as_filename=&as_class=&as_function=&as_license=&as_case= Dec 31 02:41:48 so its for determining if you've moved it enough for it to consider you wanting to move the scene Dec 31 02:41:53 and not just a bad tap Dec 31 02:42:13 yeah Dec 31 02:42:23 well anyway I think I'm using what you have Dec 31 02:42:25 8D Dec 31 02:42:28 :) Dec 31 02:45:18 is anyone else checking engadget every few hours, just hoping? Dec 31 02:45:29 hoping for what? Dec 31 02:45:39 new hardware Dec 31 02:45:43 lol Dec 31 02:45:47 ;) Dec 31 02:45:53 lol Dec 31 02:46:12 lol Dec 31 02:46:12 * oil knows when one is announced someone will point it out :) Dec 31 02:46:21 yeah Dec 31 02:46:27 I hope maybe I missed it tho! Dec 31 02:46:45 they seem to be pretty good at hiding stuff Dec 31 02:48:12 well, the next one is the "super small teen phone" right? Dec 31 02:48:18 * oil is ok skipping that one Dec 31 02:50:29 http://twitter.com/#!/Tibfib/status/20671660872966144 Dec 31 02:51:14 * oil claps Dec 31 02:51:22 niiice Dec 31 02:51:33 :) Dec 31 02:52:09 whoops, forgot to add analytics to my site before announcing Dec 31 02:52:15 lol Dec 31 02:52:38 that's ok, I have that js blocked anyway ;) Dec 31 02:53:00 hah Dec 31 02:54:39 I wonder how long it'll be before someone puts a 3d display on a phone...with the 3d DS coming out I bet it's soon Dec 31 02:57:43 eww Dec 31 02:59:36 so many odd and complicated touchstone fixes out there... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 31 02:59:58 2010