**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 08 02:59:57 2011
Jan 08 03:11:32 <destinal> oil: are you messing with my own personal internet again?
Jan 08 03:11:47 <oil> well i tried to send you one last week, you get it yet?
Jan 08 03:12:11 <oil> must be all those netflix streamers clogging the tubes
Jan 08 03:13:43 <oil> when i listen to that clip, he sounds exactly like my disabled great uncle
Jan 08 03:16:55 <HattCzech> what was that link again, oil?
Jan 08 03:17:17 <egaudet> HattCzech, you do not need to wory about usb preferences
Jan 08 03:17:18 <oil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:I_Got_it_Yesterday_-_Senator_Ted_Stevens.ogg
Jan 08 03:17:25 <egaudet> the toggle with set usbnet on which is what you need for tethering
Jan 08 04:09:15 <HattCzech> ok, thanks egaudet
Jan 08 04:47:33 <halfhalo> mooo
Jan 08 04:49:25 <dohtem> wow, this guy is terrible - http://www.myappbox.com/uc/139468/
Jan 08 04:49:40 <dohtem> (colorful language ahead)
Jan 08 04:52:18 <halfhalo> pineabble
Jan 08 04:54:48 <dohtem> what up halfhalo... all done with CES?
Jan 08 04:55:04 <halfhalo> nope
Jan 08 04:55:45 <dohtem> any more big keynotes this weekend?
Jan 08 05:00:33 <Tibfib> dohtem: sheeesh, how has chuq not blocked him yet
Jan 08 05:01:17 <Tibfib> oh, I think that feed doesn't account for deleted reviews
Jan 08 05:01:24 <dohtem> oh
Jan 08 05:01:40 <Tibfib> gDial
Jan 08 05:01:42 <dohtem> doesnt the catalog have filters for naughty words?
Jan 08 05:01:46 <Tibfib> nope
Jan 08 05:01:58 <Tibfib> gDialPro is no longer in the feeds but it is still at myappbox
Jan 08 05:02:13 * Tibfib needs to stop laying his arm on the enter key
Jan 08 05:08:51 <dohtem> why does SciFi show wrestling?
Jan 08 05:11:22 <destinal> Tibfib: is gDialPro the one everyone used to use?
Jan 08 05:11:31 <destinal> before the api changes
Jan 08 05:11:33 <Tibfib> I think so
Jan 08 05:14:12 <destinal> Tibfib: palm still recognizes the app id but it won't install
Jan 08 05:14:25 <Tibfib> interesting
Jan 08 05:14:35 <Tibfib> that must be how palm handles removed apps then
Jan 08 05:27:31 <destinal> hmm, copies of gdial pro still seem to be out there, if broken.  Looks like a closed source license however so it can't be revived :(
Jan 08 05:30:33 <destinal> in fact they used the BSD license text but removed any section that actually permitted anything and just kept the disclaimer
Jan 08 05:57:16 <SineOt> Boxee doesn't want me to use the name "Boxee Remote" because, if they ever did launch a remote on webOS, their title would conflict and more than likely eat all of my market share.
Jan 08 05:57:27 <SineOt> Any ideas for new names? XD
Jan 08 06:06:35 <Tibfib> Remote for Boxee
Jan 08 06:09:51 <SineOt> I was debating "branding" it better than just "Remote for Boxee"
Jan 08 06:10:49 <SineOt> Possibly as Squish Remote, given I decided to name the "company" rudderSQUISH
Jan 08 06:11:35 <oil_pre> nice
Jan 08 06:12:20 <SineOt> so it'd be say, Squish Remote for Boxee and later, Squish Remote for XBMC
Jan 08 06:13:33 * oil_pre sucks at naming shit
Jan 08 06:14:14 <halfhalo> name it ____ah and be done
Jan 08 06:14:15 <halfhalo> :p
Jan 08 06:14:30 <oil_pre> we still need a better name for impostah
Jan 08 06:14:33 <SineOt> Muthafuckah Remote for Boxee
Jan 08 06:14:51 <oil_pre> because the -ah names are too much
Jan 08 06:16:27 <SineOt> Name it "J. Edgar Hoover's Secret Cocktail Dress"
Jan 08 06:16:50 <oil_pre> that's better than impostah
Jan 08 06:17:03 <oil_pre> but rwhitby wouldn't like it, lol
Jan 08 06:18:32 <SineOt> You could just shorten it to "Secrets" if you wanted to
Jan 08 06:18:39 <SineOt> Give it a little spy icon of some sort
Jan 08 06:18:52 <SineOt> Although J. Edgar Hoover's Secret Cocktail Dress sounds better P:
Jan 08 06:23:02 <Tibfib> Squish Remote for Boxee sounds good
Jan 08 06:23:18 * Tibfib wouldn't mind a spy name either
Jan 08 06:23:37 <dohtem> SineOt: can you still have boxee in the name?
Jan 08 06:23:51 <dohtem> or not at all?
Jan 08 06:24:28 <SineOt> Yeah, the VP of Marketing contacted me and said that Boxee Remote is fine, but that if they ever launched with that name, they'd probably end up cannibalizing any new users
Jan 08 06:24:47 <SineOt> And it's like, yeah, that's a valid point. Every platform they've launched remotes for has been "Boxee Remote"
Jan 08 06:25:33 <SineOt> And if Boxee is going to be slow picking up the JSONRPC API, I was probably going to split off and make an XBMC specific remote...
Jan 08 06:25:44 <SineOt> So this way I can just do "Squish Remote for Boxee" and "Squish Remote for XBMC"
Jan 08 06:25:55 <SineOt> Problem solved, both remotes branded
Jan 08 06:26:31 <SineOt> And leeway to branch out to other products and keep the same titles
Jan 08 06:38:38 <halfhalo> Roy-Pre101, how is ces for ya?
Jan 08 08:13:39 <Roy-Pre101> Up $50.
Jan 08 08:13:54 <Roy-Pre101> halfhalo: Well, unless you count airfare, food and lodging.
Jan 08 15:28:28 <swisstomcat> afternoon
Jan 08 16:43:30 <sugardave> hmm, someone in FL has my facebook password somehow
Jan 08 17:04:11 <Loudergood> well that's not good
Jan 08 17:04:15 <Loudergood> firesheeped?
Jan 08 17:12:24 <haeffb_> sugardave \o/ !!!!!
Jan 08 17:38:40 <destinal> Loudergood: firesheep just lets you steal sessions, not passwords, yeah?
Jan 08 17:38:54 <destinal> sugardave: did you by chance use the same password on anything else?
Jan 08 17:59:09 <Tibfib> gosh, palm needs a push api
Jan 08 18:06:28 <dohtem> Tibfib: what are you trying to do?
Jan 08 18:06:38 <Tibfib> mojo messenger
Jan 08 18:06:43 <dohtem> ah
Jan 08 18:06:54 <Tibfib> I may have figured out a pretty good way to do it
Jan 08 18:06:57 <dohtem> I was going to suggest https://api.notifo.com/
Jan 08 18:07:09 * Tibfib checks
Jan 08 18:09:39 <Tibfib> interesting
Jan 08 18:10:31 <Tibfib> I'm going probably going to use pubnub to say to my app: "check for new messages"
Jan 08 18:10:41 <Tibfib> which is what I expect the palm push api will do to
Jan 08 18:10:42 <Tibfib> o
Jan 08 18:12:35 <dohtem> I just came across it the other day, can't vouch for it
Jan 08 18:12:49 <dohtem> plus the service is one way
Jan 08 18:13:36 <Tibfib> I'm checking it out, might work.
Jan 08 18:18:40 <Tibfib> I don't think they have a js api
Jan 08 18:19:11 <Tibfib> looks like pubnub it is
Jan 08 18:21:36 * dohtem tried
Jan 08 18:22:24 <Tibfib> my question is how they do the iPhone app
Jan 08 18:22:58 <Tibfib> shmeh.. so what is the fastest, low latency dashboard
Jan 08 18:23:02 <Tibfib> err... database?
Jan 08 18:23:18 <Tibfib> easy to use
Jan 08 18:25:16 <dohtem> heh
Jan 08 18:25:39 <dohtem> everyone is screaming mongoDB these days
Jan 08 18:26:04 <Tibfib> that's what I'm looking at.. wondering if it is worth learning
Jan 08 18:26:48 <dohtem> http://5by5.tv/devshow - i listen to this podcast and they are pretty on top of whats new in the dev scene
Jan 08 18:27:05 <dohtem> beware, they are ruby die hards ;)
Jan 08 18:28:42 <Tibfib> heh
Jan 08 18:30:08 <Tibfib> I think I'm going to start over with mojo messenger using a simpler mysql db and pubnub for notifications
Jan 08 18:38:20 <Tibfib> has anyone used bbm here?
Jan 08 18:38:42 <Loudergood> I've tried to
Jan 08 18:39:02 <Loudergood> didn't work on my phone for some reason and I only knew one person with it so it didn't really matter anyway
Jan 08 18:39:02 <Tibfib> do you name the groups?
Jan 08 18:39:15 <Loudergood> way back when I had the original pearl
Jan 08 18:39:23 <Loudergood> I may still have that phone here in a box
Jan 08 18:42:24 <Loudergood> looks like it needs a charge, give me a few minutes
Jan 08 18:42:44 <Tibfib> sweet, thans
Jan 08 18:42:48 <Tibfib> thanks*
Jan 08 18:43:04 <Tibfib> I'm specing out my rewrite, figuring out the best way to do things
Jan 08 18:43:19 <Loudergood> of course I think it has bbm 5 on it..not sure though
Jan 08 18:47:38 <Tibfib> hmm, best cross platform framework? phone gap?
Jan 08 18:49:19 <halfhalo> Mooooooo
Jan 08 18:50:46 <destinal> dohtem: we really need to be able to do ruby services with webos.  python too though.  I guess I'm not altogether sold on node yet
Jan 08 18:51:43 <Loudergood> just run a whole web server on the phone then....
Jan 08 18:51:47 <halfhalo> Lol
Jan 08 18:51:48 <Tibfib> php :)
Jan 08 18:51:54 <destinal> ack no
Jan 08 18:52:00 * destinal runs in terror
Jan 08 18:52:07 <halfhalo> To much overhead methinks
Jan 08 18:52:12 <Loudergood> you know you want to port apache...
Jan 08 18:52:21 <destinal> Loudergood: you can just install apache
Jan 08 18:52:28 <destinal> porting done for you  (optware)
Jan 08 18:52:38 <Loudergood> yeah, that popped in my head just as I was typing it
Jan 08 18:54:08 <Loudergood> I think that's the third time this week someone has told me something was already available
Jan 08 18:54:25 <Loudergood> too much holiday, I need to clear the cobwebs out of my head
Jan 08 18:54:57 <dohtem> destinal: http://canrailsscale.com/
Jan 08 18:55:13 <destinal> lol
Jan 08 18:55:24 <dohtem> :)
Jan 08 18:55:27 <destinal> dohtem: I'm talking services, not frameworks
Jan 08 18:55:32 <destinal> languages
Jan 08 18:55:37 <destinal> frameworks all suck
Jan 08 18:58:21 <dohtem> hmm... ruby service.  sounded crazy at first now I'm thinking it over
Jan 08 18:59:11 <destinal> you could do services in whatever.  a friend of mine did a service written in c# using mono
Jan 08 19:00:16 <dohtem> webOS?
Jan 08 19:00:20 <destinal> yup
Jan 08 19:00:35 <dohtem> nifty
Jan 08 19:12:30 <Loudergood> ok Tibfib, it's booted and it looks like it has bbm 5.0 on it
Jan 08 19:15:04 <sugardave> destinal: yes, it's a horrible shortcoming that I do tend to use a couple of different passwords in multiple locations
Jan 08 19:42:56 <LoneStar99> howdy folks
Jan 08 22:17:03 <DThought> is there a way to delete a single call from the call-log , when it has been grouped with other calls?
Jan 08 23:16:28 <rwhitby> Anyone else played Wesnoth on the Pre ?
Jan 08 23:17:03 <torchie> wanted to buy it
Jan 08 23:17:06 <torchie> but I'm out of space
Jan 08 23:17:20 <torchie> angry birds for mac
Jan 08 23:17:25 <torchie> requires openGL 2.0
Jan 08 23:18:34 <SineOt> doot doot doot, 3 days for a beta feed app update is kind of laaaame @_@
Jan 09 00:21:18 <kesne> Tibfib: ping
Jan 09 01:59:35 <halfhalo> moooooooooo
Jan 09 02:00:17 <SineOt> hey halfhalo, go find the booth with the 2D to 3D kit thinger that Engadget was talking about
Jan 09 02:00:28 <halfhalo> no?
Jan 09 02:00:46 <SineOt> :'(
Jan 09 02:01:09 <halfhalo> holycrapthisthingworks
Jan 09 02:01:52 <halfhalo> the solar charger charges the ipad
Jan 09 02:02:12 <SineOt> will it run a touchstone? :U
Jan 09 02:03:39 <halfhalo> probly
Jan 09 02:03:59 <SineOt> what brand/model is it?
Jan 09 02:04:17 <halfhalo> dunno
Jan 09 02:05:37 <halfhalo> but they were free, so theres that
Jan 09 02:21:42 <SineOt> Squish Remote for Boxee... Hm. At least it gives more room for logos.
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