**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 06 02:59:57 2011 Feb 06 03:03:33 Ooh thundersnow Feb 06 03:24:41 quiet Feb 06 03:25:00 too quiet Feb 06 03:25:11 agree Feb 06 03:25:20 * fahhem yells BOO Feb 06 03:25:28 having a good weekend ? Feb 06 03:25:31 I have the thundersnow to keep me company Feb 06 03:25:33 something must be about to happen in the next couple of days. I wonder what. Feb 06 03:25:48 new debian release Feb 06 03:26:00 it's a once in a lifetime event Feb 06 03:26:40 my weekend is fine Feb 06 03:26:41 heh Feb 06 03:26:42 gridiron football championships are tomorrow here in the states Feb 06 03:26:46 mostly practicing stuff Feb 06 03:26:55 rwhitby: are you here weds? Feb 06 03:27:02 practicing going well? Feb 06 03:27:06 yeah Feb 06 03:27:32 Loudergood: wasn't there one like two weeks ago? Feb 06 03:27:35 I didn't practice very much for dev day nyc so compared to that well Feb 06 03:27:42 hah Feb 06 03:27:48 i'm looking forward to the commercials tomorrow Feb 06 03:27:49 didn't make it this far north Feb 06 03:27:54 mattsmcnulty: did you see kings speech ? Feb 06 03:28:04 I watched the Enyo thing earlier, you didn't too too bad :p Feb 06 03:28:14 bpadalino: no, but it is on my air for the plane Feb 06 03:28:23 I am deliberately waiting to watch it Feb 06 03:28:29 and 127 hours and a few other things Feb 06 03:28:32 ah, i was going to say you should watch it before your presentation Feb 06 03:28:47 take your time - and even if it feels like an eternity, it's not Feb 06 03:28:49 I generally dont have too much trouble with speaking Feb 06 03:28:54 or so I say now Feb 06 03:29:01 mattsmcnulty: you said um a lot :( Feb 06 03:29:06 heh Feb 06 03:29:12 that was because my damn notes were missing! Feb 06 03:29:16 eat those um's and uh's .. be deliberate Feb 06 03:29:17 who doesn't like, say stuff like um, all the time Feb 06 03:29:19 but you probably know that Feb 06 03:29:40 I wasn't supposed to have to memorize it, then all of a sudden I had no mic and my notes were missing, so the first few minutes were a mess Feb 06 03:29:45 then I caught on Feb 06 03:29:57 all i hear are excuses ... Feb 06 03:30:01 heh Feb 06 03:30:10 Feb 06 03:30:11 :) Feb 06 03:30:12 I actually kind of like this stuff Feb 06 03:30:26 or at least I will after it is done Feb 06 03:30:38 stuff being the content you're talking about? Feb 06 03:30:56 also, after watching the Enyo intro: yay flexboxes! Feb 06 03:31:00 talking Feb 06 03:32:54 afk for 15 - food arrived Feb 06 03:35:20 hello people Feb 06 03:53:09 how's everyone's nite? Feb 06 04:00:59 mediocre at best .. i was playing around with SDL_audio and i wasn't too thrilled with the results i got Feb 06 04:01:22 what does it do? Feb 06 04:17:39 oh just trying to make different tones .. but it doesn't sound right coming out of my speakers.. Feb 06 04:17:43 it sounds gritty Feb 06 04:17:54 and i don't have an oscope here to check the output Feb 06 04:19:28 what's the app gonna do? Feb 06 04:22:52 or a pc with an input port? Feb 06 04:23:21 well, i am just on host - not device yet .. Feb 06 04:23:48 i guess it would be terrible if the pdk didn't match up exactly .. Feb 06 04:23:59 that's true... Feb 06 04:24:27 what OS are you on? Feb 06 04:25:05 osx for host testing Feb 06 04:25:42 i am definitely writing tones, but when i hear the audio it sounds .. gritty is the only way i can describe it Feb 06 04:26:14 would sample rate conversion do that? Feb 06 04:26:44 nah, i requestd 44.1kHz, but either way i am still just writing a tone .. Feb 06 04:26:56 if it were converted and compressed or expanded, the frequency would change Feb 06 04:27:05 but it wouldn't sound like there were gaps Feb 06 04:28:26 that's interesting...I was planning on playing around with doing just what you are in the future Feb 06 04:29:00 interesting Feb 06 04:29:18 what were you planning on doing with sound synthesis ? Feb 06 04:31:40 ah, found a spectrogram program .. should be able to figure it out from there Feb 06 04:35:03 seeing if I couldn't manage to make a theremin Feb 06 04:35:27 oh yeah, neat Feb 06 04:36:02 does a theremin just do a single frequency which you modulate based on your fingers? Feb 06 04:36:06 or is it multiple tones ? Feb 06 04:36:24 heh, I'm honestly not sure Feb 06 04:36:30 ah Feb 06 04:45:39 I bet you could do some very interesting things with multitouch though.... Feb 06 04:48:20 yeah probably Feb 06 05:28:54 How can I fix this error? Cannot call method 'noticedAddedItems' of undefined, line undefined, file undefined Feb 06 05:29:04 I don't understand why it doesn't work Feb 06 05:29:22 it doesn't work because it cannot call the method noticedAddItems .. since it's undefined? Feb 06 05:29:36 But isn't that a valid mojo command? Feb 06 05:29:57 i have no idea, but i am guessing no ? Feb 06 05:30:05 I've used it in previous apps though Feb 06 05:30:10 and it's in all the examples Feb 06 05:30:22 I just don't know what I'm doing differently Feb 06 05:30:50 whatever you're trying to do noticedAddedItems on isn't the object it's supposed to Feb 06 05:30:53 noticeAddedItems ? Feb 06 05:31:14 your selector is probably pulling the wrong item, so double check that Feb 06 05:31:24 that's what's stirring up the WAY unhelpful undefined stuff Feb 06 05:31:35 there you go Feb 06 05:31:51 this.controller.get('myList').mojo.noticedAddedItems(0, [{title: "test"}]); Feb 06 05:31:57 My widget name for my list is "myList" Feb 06 05:32:06 and I have "title" in the itemTemplate file Feb 06 05:32:54 is the ID of the HTML item myList? Feb 06 05:33:15

Feb 06 05:33:15 Yes Feb 06 05:36:59 I fixed the noticeAddedItems part and it still gives same error Feb 06 06:16:53 the laptop mag voting for best mobile OS is amusing .. Feb 06 06:17:04 finalists between webOS and windows phone 7 .. Feb 06 06:17:10 http://blog.laptopmag.com/os-bowl-final-webos-vs-windows-phone-7-voting-ends-tuesday-28-at-9-a-m - neck and neck right now Feb 06 06:18:11 very interesting the two phones with the smallest market share made it to the finals .. well, maybe MeeGo has the smallest market share Feb 06 06:19:16 Does Meego even have a marketshare? Feb 06 06:19:28 It only runs on like... Two phones. Feb 06 06:19:35 wow that poll got really close Feb 06 06:21:15 SineOt: not even sure there are commercially available MeeGo phones Feb 06 06:21:15 ? Feb 06 06:22:08 oh, the N900 .. and some Aava moorestown development kits it seems Feb 06 06:25:38 yeah, the Aava would count as "commerically avaliable, I guess Feb 06 06:25:51 even if they're like a grand or more each and have zero carrier backing Feb 06 06:25:59 and the N900 doesn't even ship with Meego Feb 06 06:27:05 so maybe there are a few people who reflashed their n900's ? Feb 06 06:27:08 but otherwise, nah .. Feb 06 06:27:10 nothing significant Feb 06 07:44:23 whats crackin Feb 06 08:52:40 http://i.imgur.com/qLj3a.jpg Feb 06 08:52:41 heh Feb 06 08:53:54 heya! Feb 06 08:54:19 quick q, what are your permissions on /var ? (trying to figure out what the "right" perms are..) Feb 06 08:55:55 rwxr-xr-x Feb 06 08:56:06 oil: Thanks! Feb 06 08:56:12 np Feb 06 08:56:18 I don't know why, mine always becomes 700 Feb 06 08:57:07 err, not always, but it always happens at least once per install Feb 06 09:11:24 * ajay is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] Feb 06 09:12:53 hay guys Feb 06 09:14:33 'lo Feb 06 09:14:40 howdy Feb 06 09:14:40 * ajay is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 3 min 16 secs Feb 06 09:14:56 heya Feb 06 09:15:13 funny i'm writing on my friend PatrickC's wall heh.. Feb 06 09:15:13 couldn't sleep so I figured there would be someone on the IRC lol Feb 06 09:15:24 what? lol Feb 06 09:15:35 no relation :) Feb 06 09:15:44 maybe... lol Feb 06 09:15:45 jk Feb 06 09:15:55 but if you're interested i'm posting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abignale there :) Feb 06 09:16:55 what does PatrickC have to do with Frank Alignale? lol Feb 06 09:17:20 we just watched the movie about him together.. Feb 06 09:17:32 oh lol Feb 06 09:17:35 cool Feb 06 09:18:00 I was curious who he married, so looked it up.. i can't believe someone tried to argue with me that everything in there was true.. some people.. Feb 06 09:18:16 * ajay doesn't understand why people make claims about things they know nothing about Feb 06 09:18:28 * PatrickC_Pre is watching Home Improvement Feb 06 09:19:08 I know, people argue computers with me all the time... my dad has an Electrical Engineering Degree, and I can build a computer! lol Feb 06 09:20:12 yeah! that's funny.. i was arguing with that girl about how the product she sells works, and then about whether it was a true story Feb 06 09:20:31 lol Feb 06 09:20:46 i mean, how true.. it said "inspired by" in the beginning.. it's a straight fact in front of her face, why do we need to argue? Feb 06 09:21:09 haha, cause it makes thing interesting :p Feb 06 09:21:34 but yeah the product is a technical thing.. one of my favorite lines is: Feb 06 09:21:55 "What's the difference between a car salesman and a computer salesman?" Feb 06 09:22:03 what? lol Feb 06 09:22:13 "The car salesman knows when he's lying" Feb 06 09:22:25 hahaha Feb 06 09:22:31 that's awesome! lol Feb 06 09:22:36 it's one of those sad but true statements Feb 06 09:22:42 yep Feb 06 09:22:50 when i was working in a tech company i saw this multiple times, just in a small company.. Feb 06 09:23:20 yea, people don't know what they are talking about these days... lol Feb 06 09:23:34 ok if FB isn't working properly from FF & Chrome at least i know its not on my end.. (but still, gah!) Feb 06 09:23:52 what about from WebOS Feb 06 09:23:55 lo Feb 06 09:24:01 lol** :) Feb 06 09:24:37 yeah i can't tag people nor post links on people's walls from webOS, so.. technically using Chrome/FF are working just as well as posting from webOS! Feb 06 09:25:10 PatrickC_Pre: It's so frustrating that they talk though.. i guess there's something comforting about acting like you know something Feb 06 09:25:30 or they are just trying to annoy you lol Feb 06 09:25:47 did you try Safari/IE? Feb 06 09:25:54 or Opera Feb 06 09:26:15 nope but just played aroudn in chrome (Went to other pages, and back to PatC's page) and javascript started working again Feb 06 09:26:27 (not back but forward, to be specific :) Feb 06 09:26:43 well, at least its working again lol Feb 06 09:27:40 so, what's everyone working on tonite? or are we just talking about incompetent computer sales men? lol Feb 06 09:28:09 oh crap! "This message could not be posted to this wall" really?! Feb 06 09:28:30 i dunno, it was dead when i came in here Feb 06 09:28:31 man, you just have all the luck... Feb 06 09:28:33 :) Feb 06 09:28:48 its always dead :p Feb 06 09:29:00 and #webos-internals no-one is on haha Feb 06 09:30:22 Sorry, your wall post could not be added at this time. Please try again later. Feb 06 09:30:25 wtf Feb 06 09:30:52 facebook is being dumb I see? lol Feb 06 09:31:20 exit the browser and try again.. power off the PC, try again? maybe Feb 06 09:32:31 haha Feb 06 09:32:33 yeah, right Feb 06 09:32:38 lol Feb 06 09:32:45 wirc works fine rite now Feb 06 09:32:45 you should work tech support Feb 06 09:32:50 * PatrickC_Pre is using wird Feb 06 09:33:00 * PatrickC_Pre ment wirc lol Feb 06 09:33:04 I wojl Feb 06 09:33:14 dumb enter key! lol Feb 06 09:33:28 I would, but they don't hire a 15 year old Feb 06 09:33:44 ok i posted it to his g/f's wall.. hrmm.. close enough? Feb 06 09:33:58 15?! hot damn.. you should read that wikipedia article for sure, perfect for you! Feb 06 09:34:20 lol, what.. the one about the fred guy? or whatever his name is lol Feb 06 09:34:40 ahh yay for facebook's cassandra Feb 06 09:34:57 I can almost positively guarentee thats at least part of the problem Feb 06 09:35:15 cassandra? is that their DB? Feb 06 09:35:36 its the big distributed massive scalable datastore Feb 06 09:35:40 but it has pretty decent flaws =) Feb 06 09:36:05 well, "Frank" was 16 lol Feb 06 09:37:09 PatrickC_Pre: exactly! Feb 06 09:37:15 lol Feb 06 09:37:25 oh, i didn't think about the other meaning of the term 'deadhead', haha.. Feb 06 09:37:33 ok thinks its past bedtime :) Feb 06 09:37:54 its 337 am here Feb 06 09:38:13 there's never anything good on tv lol Feb 06 09:38:19 not at this time Feb 06 09:40:10 bah there never is Feb 06 09:40:12 tv blows Feb 06 09:40:21 lol Feb 06 09:40:32 lies and slander Feb 06 09:40:35 but Home Improvement is on! Feb 06 09:40:44 TNG? Awesome. Law and Order? Awesome. Feb 06 09:40:52 havent seen that show in forever! Feb 06 09:40:58 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic? FUCK YES AWESOME. Feb 06 09:41:06 lol Feb 06 09:41:14 damn developer.palm.com needs to work on keeping me logged in, gah Feb 06 09:41:27 I know! Feb 06 09:41:29 i DVR stuff, there's some decent stuff.. Feb 06 09:41:37 home improvement i liked when i was PatrickC's age, but.. :) Feb 06 09:41:52 supposedly down the pipe, but it'll be forever before its done :p Feb 06 09:41:53 Law&Order: Criminal intent with Vincent D'nofrio (sp?) is pretty neat to me! Feb 06 09:42:12 meh Feb 06 09:42:22 I'd say fringe and californication Feb 06 09:42:26 frown and meh go well together :) Feb 06 09:42:32 true true Feb 06 09:42:34 I like law&order, Psych, mythbusters and a few others Feb 06 09:42:36 like I said tho Feb 06 09:42:48 maybe if palm/hp get their shit together for the 9th push Feb 06 09:42:56 ron_frown: then we can all eat babies! Feb 06 09:43:01 it'll be ron_optomistic Feb 06 09:43:04 what lol Feb 06 09:43:21 oh, umm.. i guess that's worth something too Feb 06 09:43:33 ;^) Feb 06 09:43:39 damnit, firefox! leave my cpu alone! Feb 06 09:44:05 * ajay wants to make sure everyone tunes that in pink floyd Feb 06 09:44:23 I've never seen that smily lol Feb 06 09:44:29 (but then it should be "hey, firefox! leave those cores alone!" Feb 06 09:44:31 tunes what? lol Feb 06 09:44:39 I use MineField Feb 06 09:45:06 Safari/Chrome supremacy :T Feb 06 09:45:20 Minefield RULZ! Feb 06 09:45:32 ron_frown: they already screwed up once, telling people there'd be a waitlist, and then saying they know better than that Feb 06 09:46:06 * PatrickC_Pre thinks Tim Taylor is the man! Feb 06 09:46:11 Gecko is quickly becoming a scrub tier browser engine Feb 06 09:46:14 (about how many people would show up to the dev event) Feb 06 09:46:26 i can't wait for 4 Feb 06 09:46:26 I'm not :'( Feb 06 09:46:32 the only good thing to come out of it in years is flexboxes, and that was ripped from XUL Feb 06 09:46:34 4 what? Feb 06 09:46:42 flexboxes? Feb 06 09:46:43 FF4 Feb 06 09:46:52 that's what Minefield is Feb 06 09:46:56 I run the beta Feb 06 09:46:58 oh haha Feb 06 09:47:02 ajay: you know I think these execs should quit with making their bold claims about users perception, and sales etc Feb 06 09:47:14 flexboxes are basically a not retarded version of divs Feb 06 09:47:18 sadly I think a lot of companies try to increase demand by artificially reducing supply Feb 06 09:47:20 ron_frown: then what would they do?! Feb 06 09:47:24 tho Ares don't work in it... but I just use Chrome for ares Feb 06 09:47:24 have you ever even thought about that! Feb 06 09:47:37 just be honest, and upstanding business people Feb 06 09:47:41 what?! Feb 06 09:47:42 want a pair of divs that constantly resize and are always floating in the center of the window? LIKE TWO LINES OF CODE Feb 06 09:47:44 I know Feb 06 09:47:47 stupid me Feb 06 09:48:13 their whole job is predicated on pretense.. I don't know if you didn't realize, but most execs (bureaucrats, administrators, eg for the school system) don't DO anythihng Feb 06 09:48:18 I like how sine is the only one talking about code :p Feb 06 09:48:30 except politic.. (PR, fundraise, schmooze.. etc) Feb 06 09:48:41 Sadly I am very very far from the norm with my beliefs Feb 06 09:48:45 and I don't think i'm exaggerating Feb 06 09:48:54 wonder if that means my company is going to fail since I am the CSO Feb 06 09:49:26 ron_frown: it was funny talking to an HP employee a few months ago.. people at HP were pissed about how, while they were get pay/bonus cuts, this dude was flying his mistress around on company dollars Feb 06 09:49:36 I believe in shooting straight with my employees and my clients Feb 06 09:49:47 HEAVILY HEAVILY reward my employees Feb 06 09:49:52 4day work week (8hr day) Feb 06 09:50:02 wow, you're like, european or something ! Feb 06 09:50:07 google "CSO" Feb 06 09:50:10 I'm american Feb 06 09:50:22 only in nationality Feb 06 09:50:26 chief strategy officer Feb 06 09:50:36 ajay, well yeah, that's why Hurd got the boot shoved up his ass :p Feb 06 09:50:39 damn, Firefox needs to unfreeze so i can close it.. Feb 06 09:50:51 one of the suggestions at the bottom is Crazy Shooter Online" Feb 06 09:50:52 SineOt: yeah, I could take a 30 million dollar boot shoved up my ass too actually Feb 06 09:50:54 I know... I just worked for way too many tech companies that are just so god damn fucked, that I honestly was ready to just quit Feb 06 09:51:14 ron_frown: yeah.. that's true actually Feb 06 09:51:30 eh, severance packages are their own fault Feb 06 09:51:40 they agreed to it when he hired in Feb 06 09:51:59 it's stupid as hell but ffs, quit giving them to people! Feb 06 09:52:02 there is just way way way way way too much in the way of arrogance and egos and polotics Feb 06 09:52:14 SineOt: I guess my point was I don't think i, nor my friend at HP, thinks he got anything..being let go is so minor Feb 06 09:52:22 people would rather ride the ship down claiming they made no bad decisions... than to just admit fault, and change direction Feb 06 09:52:27 [anything bad] Feb 06 09:52:38 ron_frown: true that Feb 06 09:53:11 it's minor only because the board at HP made it that way... the entire idea of a severance package is basically a reward for terrible performance Feb 06 09:53:30 haha Feb 06 09:53:37 you think they woulda learned from Carly.. :) Feb 06 09:53:51 yeah you'd think Feb 06 09:54:07 * PatrickC_Pre is lurking while watching tv :) Feb 06 09:54:11 maybe it's good they shook up the board then, but damn.. ron's right, none of these fools learn nothin.. not really Feb 06 09:54:25 but hey, at least getting canned kept him from accruing further stock options etc, even if it did come with a 30 million dollar parachute Feb 06 09:56:15 its the same bs everywhere Feb 06 09:56:25 I want employees to want to work for me Feb 06 09:56:49 sadly in my 15yr in software, I've realized I've encountered a few people like 3-5 that actually stood out Feb 06 09:57:08 not saying in capability, but having that engineering mindset, creative problem solving etc Feb 06 09:57:29 SineOt: i can bet you money there would have been ways for them to can him w/o the 30$ mln.. but again, this is NOT my point Feb 06 09:58:11 depends really on how the package was set up, but yeah Feb 06 09:58:17 a point could be that the board didn't seem to really care nor reprimand him.. it was almost like they let him go to avoid semblance of impropriety.. Feb 06 09:58:27 but i think ron's points are much more legit than mine.. Feb 06 09:58:42 maybe not more legit, but like, more important/meaningful/deeper Feb 06 09:59:15 Fiorina, Hurd.. they need a real shift. I didn't think poorly about Leo's posturing until ron mentioned earlier.. Feb 06 10:00:06 damn, gotta keep better tabs on the email.. customers prob hate a 5-day response time! Feb 06 10:00:12 I don't know-Leo did wait until he had been in at HP for a while before he really started to say/do anything Feb 06 10:00:58 SineOt: i mean, taking ron's point from earlier, "get rid of your iPhones/ipads"? posturing.. pomp&circumstance.. (hope I'm reading ron right, if not my apologies!) Feb 06 10:01:26 what should he say? "go buy iphones/ipads?" :p Feb 06 10:01:27 it like, really relates to what i was saying earlier, about car vs tech salespeople Feb 06 10:02:14 SineOt: umm, i think your range of discussion may be a bit limited ! :) Feb 06 10:02:29 very likely P: Feb 06 10:03:22 point being that there are a LOT of ways to skin a cat Feb 06 10:03:35 there's also the option to say, "hey, do we need to skin a cat?" Feb 06 10:04:15 exactly Feb 06 10:04:22 attack the root problem Feb 06 10:04:24 not the symptoms Feb 06 10:04:25 * ajay is reminded of the Mr. Show episode about blowing up the moon Feb 06 10:05:27 root problem: shareholders Feb 06 10:05:32 ppht Feb 06 10:05:42 i won't buy that, that's just a convenient excuse Feb 06 10:06:08 one of my ideas for successful business was almost a fully co-op business Feb 06 10:06:18 * ajay loves the co-op Feb 06 10:06:20 everyone was fully vested and owned a significant portion of the company Feb 06 10:06:33 likewise they had personal gain for progress and negative gain for failure Feb 06 10:06:34 horizontal employment is the best! Feb 06 10:06:56 ajay: you've got a legal obligation to shareholders to "protect their interests" which always means make more money Feb 06 10:07:00 choosing to temporarily take a cut, so they could afford another employee that could in turn help the company grow Feb 06 10:07:10 and if everyone else is being bullheaded and annoying, you kind of have to be too Feb 06 10:07:16 or shareholders get pissy! Feb 06 10:07:23 first key there is Feb 06 10:07:27 dont involve douchebags Feb 06 10:07:28 ever Feb 06 10:07:29 no vc Feb 06 10:07:34 SineOt: being honest businessmen is not against shareholder interests! Feb 06 10:07:36 no investors Feb 06 10:07:52 ajay: most shareholders honestly only give a shit about one thing Feb 06 10:07:53 the Feb 06 10:07:54 bottom line Feb 06 10:07:56 SineOt: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI Feb 06 10:08:05 and they could give two shits less about anyone involved in the company Feb 06 10:09:06 anyway this got way off topic =) Feb 06 10:09:11 everyone cares Feb 06 10:09:12 what sort of things you guys building =) Feb 06 10:09:25 i keep coming up with ideas for things to build Feb 06 10:09:42 but my time mgmt is horrid Feb 06 10:10:34 haha Feb 06 10:10:43 thats the beauty of working for shitty companies right there Feb 06 10:11:00 nothing more motivating than seeing how badly a bunch of idiots can eff up a good idea Feb 06 10:11:29 aight nighty night! Feb 06 10:11:30 heh Feb 06 10:11:32 for real this time Feb 06 10:11:35 night Feb 06 10:28:21 I guess I was idle too long :p Feb 06 10:28:39 then wirc didn't like me... had to restart it lol Feb 06 11:09:30 Is there anyone still working on vorbis support? Feb 06 13:37:15 hi there. Feb 06 13:37:30 Any mojo-developers online that might help me? ;) Feb 06 13:39:32 lol.. I just solved my problem.. it was a stupid typo. Feb 06 13:40:00 I really wish javascript had something like a compiler. *sigh* Feb 06 16:08:53 anyone know if webos 2 has a full document editor? Feb 06 16:09:19 not currently on my pre2 .. Feb 06 16:10:53 i wonder why it taking so long to get one. Feb 06 16:11:23 docs to go said they waited and waited and gave up. man i need a doc editor Feb 06 16:11:26 lack of developer interest ? Feb 06 16:12:26 i have docs to go on the pre but with no editing Feb 06 16:12:38 http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/webos/technicalhurdles.html Feb 06 16:13:04 ok Feb 06 16:13:45 it sounds like you have all the answers you're looking for Feb 06 16:14:11 but i heard 2 comes with something else quickoffice Feb 06 16:14:41 ok Feb 06 16:24:33 * haeffb at MCI waiting to board flight to Panama City Beach Feb 06 17:25:02 can you highlight stuff on emulator ? Feb 06 17:26:31 w00t http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?cntry_code=us&tracknumber_list=477129964282&language=english Feb 06 17:52:37 as much as it pains me to say, go Packers Feb 06 18:12:38 MEH Feb 06 18:14:17 MEH Feb 06 18:14:18 OOPS Feb 06 18:14:21 wow my caps is on Feb 06 18:14:39 i been looking at some youtube vidoes on webos 2.0 and im interested in the quick actions Feb 06 18:14:46 i wonder if you can add stuff to it Feb 06 18:22:56 there has to be a way to add to quick actions, it would be horrible if that were only available to com.palm apps Feb 06 18:52:14 yea wierd Feb 06 18:56:13 if somebody has palm pre 2 can they talk about it here ? Feb 06 18:56:26 hehe Feb 06 18:56:30 why not? Feb 06 18:56:36 dunno Feb 06 18:56:37 nda ? Feb 06 18:56:42 or nda only for the sdk ? Feb 06 18:56:43 you can buy it? Feb 06 18:56:47 yes Feb 06 18:56:55 NDA is for early access stuff Feb 06 18:57:01 who has a palm pre 2 Feb 06 18:57:06 I have :P Feb 06 18:57:10 And a lot of other people Feb 06 18:57:16 3 of my friends also Feb 06 18:57:38 how do you add quick actions or other searches to jus type ? Feb 06 18:59:11 thats a webos feature Feb 06 18:59:13 2.0 Feb 06 18:59:18 not pre 2 specific Feb 06 18:59:26 what does pre2 have on it Feb 06 18:59:29 webos 2 right ? Feb 06 18:59:35 yer Feb 06 18:59:38