**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 01 02:59:57 2011 Mar 01 03:27:59 rwhitby: https://img.skitch.com/20110301-mtfut1wq3g775cggrp5edtxji4.png Mar 01 03:28:28 funkatron: hahaha nice! Mar 01 03:34:27 hewo people Mar 01 03:45:25 funkatron: I'll pay for that. Mar 01 03:51:53 * sugardave starts campaigning early. Mar 01 03:53:54 sugardave: what's the benefit of geany? Mar 01 03:54:27 haeffb: I was trying to find a textmate-like editor for Linux, I got jealous at dev day Mar 01 03:55:12 what makes it better than eclipse? Mar 01 03:55:26 it's lighter Mar 01 03:55:54 notepad++ for windows Mar 01 03:56:01 I think I got it working in wine on linux Mar 01 03:56:09 I'm pretty partial to Komodo myself Mar 01 03:56:28 Geany seems like a not-as-polished Komodo Edit Mar 01 03:56:41 so why not komodo edit? Mar 01 03:56:46 it leaks Mar 01 03:56:51 Notepad++ has always been my favorite; except when I'm coding C++, in which case it's Dev-Cpp. Mar 01 03:56:55 mine leaked Mar 01 03:57:02 hrm Mar 01 03:57:36 sublime text 2 works with textmate bundles and snippets .. and has python integration .. runs on linux - seems pretty decent: http://www.sublimetext.com/2 Mar 01 03:57:57 bpadalino: I installed that one, too, but haven't messed with it too much yet Mar 01 03:58:05 sugardave: that sounds like a personal problem Mar 01 03:58:26 [leakage] Mar 01 03:58:31 this time Mar 01 03:58:33 it's personal Mar 01 03:59:49 bpadalino, love sublime-text Mar 01 04:00:11 sugardave, tried your vert/horz centering suggestion ... no joy :/ Mar 01 04:00:19 sugardave, https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11577 Mar 01 04:01:04 sandywalsh_: ah, I saw that...was thinking I might have misled you. You might need to try the pack and/or align attributes in those flex boxes Mar 01 04:01:12 but another thing... Mar 01 04:01:20 sugardave, yes, I replied a second time, with those Mar 01 04:01:28 what are the dimensions of that image? Mar 01 04:01:39 sugardave, it's the height=100% that isn't taking Mar 01 04:01:40 does sublime have js validation? Mar 01 04:01:58 haeffb, just color highlighting Mar 01 04:02:25 meh Mar 01 04:02:35 sugardave, 174x200 Mar 01 04:02:46 haeffb, that I know of Mar 01 04:02:55 sandywalsh_: the height 100% is taking, it is drawing into the parent divs space, so the parent is not as high as you want it...my guess Mar 01 04:02:56 I really like eclipse, except for the lack of ability to change color themes Mar 01 04:03:30 notepad++ lets you do that. Mar 01 04:03:31 sugardave, agreed. The only parent is ... is it possible to get at that to set height=100%? Mar 01 04:04:04 Tibfib: need a native linux app Mar 01 04:04:07 sandywalsh_: are you disabling the scene scroller when you push that scene? Mar 01 04:04:25 sugardave, no, this is a trival app based on the tutorial Mar 01 04:04:34 sugardave, based on this: https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1758&Itemid=36 Mar 01 04:04:40 haeffb: http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/sublime-text-2-public-alpha Mar 01 04:04:49 okay, scratch that...here's what I would do, I call it cheating Mar 01 04:05:12 I'm actually going to try sublime out myself Mar 01 04:05:36 Sometimes style=height:100% works for me where height=100% fails. Mar 01 04:06:02 KGF2010, yes, I've tried both. Mar 01 04:06:16 Ah. Mar 01 04:06:28 I would put one more div around your current set:

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Mar 01 04:06:44 that will force a 100% high/wide space Mar 01 04:07:16 sugardave, hmm, pretty sure I tried that ... lemme try again. Sec ... Mar 01 04:08:25 \o/ Mar 01 04:08:36 thanks sugardave! lifesaver! Mar 01 04:08:49 I'll post solution to forum Mar 01 04:09:33 cool Mar 01 04:11:17 done ... thx again. Now onto the fun stuff :) Mar 01 04:11:19 haeffb: you can change colors in Eclipse editor Mar 01 04:11:49 sandywalsh_: just be aware that it may limit some of the things you try to do if you use that fixed position div in scenes Mar 01 04:11:59 it's perfectly valid, you just have to plan around/for it Mar 01 04:13:06 haeffb: http://www.eclipsecolorthemes.org/ Mar 01 04:13:28 you can, but it just changes in the editor window, not all the other stuff Mar 01 04:13:38 oh Mar 01 04:13:41 right Mar 01 04:13:45 and the themes don't seem to play well with aptana Mar 01 04:14:09 I just downloaded somebody's .col file and made my own Mar 01 04:14:15 you *can* go into each individual editor and change the colors for everything Mar 01 04:14:25 BORING Mar 01 04:14:32 (did that, too) Mar 01 04:14:41 it would take me three days to get something I like Mar 01 04:14:49 send me your .col file... Mar 01 04:15:49 alright, my json one is kind of crappy Mar 01 04:19:11 sent Mar 01 04:19:21 haeffb: sublime is pretty nice Mar 01 04:20:31 I may test use it for a few days Mar 01 04:23:12 argg. if I could find a theme I liked Mar 01 04:23:21 * haeffb must have code validation Mar 01 04:23:34 * haeffb makes two meny typos Mar 01 04:23:52 no you don't haeffb Mar 01 04:24:57 shmeh. I run it once. see it doesn't work.. look at logs.. fix it.. try again Mar 01 04:25:03 sugardave: yay! Mar 01 04:26:19 Tibfib: boo! Mar 01 04:26:30 :) Mar 01 04:26:33 goodnight everyone Mar 01 04:26:45 night tibfib Mar 01 04:27:44 where is eclipse installed on my ubuntu? Mar 01 04:27:58 * haeffb still doesn't understand the filesystem of unix Mar 01 04:28:13 Tibfib: yay? Mar 01 04:28:16 what did I miss? Mar 01 04:28:20 where you downloaded it to Mar 01 04:28:21 KSU won Mar 01 04:28:26 ah Mar 01 04:28:33 bummer for us, we are losing left and right now Mar 01 04:28:46 PatrickC: that seems entirely logical, but is also entirely wrong Mar 01 04:28:53 haeffb: where is an awesome command Mar 01 04:28:59 open a terminal: where eclipse Mar 01 04:29:07 what?! Mar 01 04:29:20 you can do that on ubuntu? Mar 01 04:29:24 where: command not found Mar 01 04:29:27 I might have to download it now... Mar 01 04:29:29 not wheree Mar 01 04:29:30 sorry Mar 01 04:29:30 which Mar 01 04:29:36 which eclipse Mar 01 04:29:46 /usr/bin/eclipse Mar 01 04:29:51 that's going to show you where the binary is Mar 01 04:30:12 but you're going to have some hidden dirs in your user home directory with eclipse shit in it Mar 01 04:30:41 like ~/.eclipse Mar 01 04:31:03 ~ is a shortcut to the user's home directory Mar 01 04:31:16 * sugardave doesn't know how much Linux you don't know. Mar 01 04:31:52 all of it except ls -l Mar 01 04:32:18 all you need to know: Mar 01 04:32:19 ls Mar 01 04:32:19 catr Mar 01 04:32:25 s/catr/cat/ Mar 01 04:32:26 from back in the day when we ran Procadam on unix boxes Mar 01 04:32:27 man Mar 01 04:32:33 ls, cat, and man Mar 01 04:32:36 man = help files Mar 01 04:32:43 manual pages Mar 01 04:32:43 that's all UT decided I should know when starting Mar 01 04:33:59 so, I downloaded komodo-edit tar.gz, used the archive manager to extract it, ran install.sh Mar 01 04:34:07 and it all just disappeared Mar 01 04:35:28 I THINK I installed that one through apt Mar 01 04:36:23 sugardave, hmm, will it affect transitions or that sort of thing? Mar 01 04:37:03 haeffb: scratch that...did you run it like: sudo install.sh Mar 01 04:37:13 sandywalsh_: transitions to a new scene? no Mar 01 04:37:33 sandywalsh_: I just meant if you started putting scrollers and whatnot inside the fixed div Mar 01 04:37:36 hrm. no...just double-clicked the icon Mar 01 04:38:02 haeffb: if it's a .sh file, I usually will run those in terminal so I can see what is going on Mar 01 04:38:21 * haeffb has some more learnin' to do. Mar 01 04:38:26 sugardave, heh. I'm sure I'll hit it soon enough. thx! Mar 01 04:38:53 .sh is more or less equivalent to a .cmd or .bat file in windows Mar 01 04:39:35 sugardave: downloading lubuntu now :) Mar 01 04:41:02 haeffb: usually, if you're installing software that could be used "system-wide" you'll want to run it as root, so usually that means: sudo [command to run] Mar 01 04:41:32 yah, k. but where the hell did all the files go? Mar 01 04:44:34 haeffb: maybe you downloaded an archive, like .tar or .tar.gz file and the file packager opened it? Mar 01 04:44:39 if so Mar 01 04:44:47 then that file is likely in ~/Downloads Mar 01 04:45:33 if you want to be hardcore, you can extract it yourself in some temp directory so you can see what is in it and run the .sh by hand from there Mar 01 04:46:37 that is what I tried to do. opened in archive manager, extracted to a temp dir, then tried to run install.sh. Everything is gone but install.sh Mar 01 04:46:54 oh, well, I'll worry about it tomorrow. Mar 01 04:47:46 is there a download manager for webos? Mar 01 04:55:23 haeffb: I can help you later, but I have some other pressing matters atm Mar 01 04:56:04 np. I meant that *I* would look into it tomorrow...headed for zzzzzz's. Mar 01 05:24:34 boom Mar 01 05:24:36 action time Mar 01 05:24:45 boom Mar 01 05:24:48 bacon time :9 Mar 01 05:27:03 SineOt: #webOSWATeam....be positive Mar 01 05:28:12 sugardave: I'm always positive when it's bacon time Mar 01 05:28:20 what exactly does the webOS Swat team do P: Mar 01 05:29:30 kick ass Mar 01 05:30:03 * SineOt thinks the webOS meetup groups are the perfect place for the webOS SWAT team to test out their skills :p Mar 01 05:30:29 * rwhitby positively releases UberKernel for 2.1.0 to the testing feed. Mar 01 05:31:34 I would think something like this: development of training materials, partner enablement, VIP hand-holding Mar 01 05:32:45 so basically, community empowerment Mar 01 05:33:59 well, that's what devrel is, right? Mar 01 05:34:11 I suppose! Mar 01 05:34:24 but it seems it's mostly getting swamped with emails ;D Mar 01 05:34:52 so swat is something a little different...help people you really really really want to dev on/port to webOS who say "we have this problem...." Mar 01 05:35:01 as an example Mar 01 05:35:40 but sure, swat training materials for the whole community would not be a bad thing Mar 01 05:36:03 if one person has "this problem" I'm sure it'd be something that someone else had run into before Mar 01 05:36:14 the more people who have access to it, the better Mar 01 05:37:06 swat training? :o Mar 01 05:37:20 not real SWAT dkirker Mar 01 05:37:22 :P Mar 01 05:37:25 hehe Mar 01 05:37:39 I know, in reference to your tweet, I take it? Mar 01 05:37:58 yeah, I'm opinionated :) Mar 01 05:38:11 I in no way have an agenda Mar 01 05:38:13 nope Mar 01 05:38:15 not me Mar 01 05:38:17 haha Mar 01 05:38:29 I just saw your tweet to Ben, what was the discussion about? Mar 01 05:39:21 dkirker: so Richard Kerris interview on precentral mentioned the concept of a SWAT team to help HP customers to develop apps and such Mar 01 05:39:31 ah! :D Mar 01 05:39:39 and I started running with it as I thought about how awesome it would be to have that job Mar 01 05:39:43 ok, I haven't read the interview in full yet. Bad Internets... Mar 01 05:40:05 better yet, SWAT Director :))) Mar 01 05:40:15 bad Internets are bad :( Mar 01 05:40:41 Well, not bad Internets. I am having to tether through my Pre+. Mar 01 05:41:15 AT&T thought they set up the order for the phone line, but I still don't have a dial tone, and Sonic.net seems like they won't have Internet set up until Thursday anyway. :/ Mar 01 05:42:10 lame, did you recently move or something? Mar 01 05:42:29 yup, to Silicon Valley. :) Mar 01 05:43:58 cool, how do you like it out there? Mar 01 05:44:08 I've always loved it! Mar 01 05:44:20 I lived most of my life in the North Bay, so it feels just like being home. Mar 01 05:45:45 cool, going to get some of that awesome startup luck? does that still work good there? Mar 01 05:46:00 sure! Mar 01 05:46:41 I work part time for a startup now. Then I work for myself (I've had my "company" for ~4 years now, but I might put it into startup mode here soon with some stuff I am doing for webOS). Mar 01 05:46:59 Startups are everywhere. :D Mar 01 05:47:03 yes, I think I know what it might be :D Mar 01 05:48:56 ooo, do you now? :D Mar 01 05:49:16 I have my suspicions Mar 01 05:49:21 * Mar 01 05:49:31 hehe Mar 01 06:43:12 night Mar 01 07:00:42 oh... mobile hot spot is listed, why is VZW_IPKS in two spots? Mar 01 07:01:28 oops, wrong chan :) Mar 01 07:11:05 Morning! Mar 01 07:12:06 morgning Mar 01 09:10:07 ello guys Mar 01 09:10:40 hey Mar 01 09:10:52 i see a lot of new folks =D Mar 01 09:12:56 * chpwn new person. Mar 01 09:16:16 I've used irc almost exclusively through wIRC on my Pre... anyone have a recommendation for a decent OSX client? Mar 01 09:17:10 I'm using Colloquy right now, but I kinda wish it did things like different colors for different peoples names and auto-marking the last message from when the window was forcused. Mar 01 09:17:20 focused* Mar 01 09:20:55 zinge: Textual. Mar 01 09:21:17 zinge: Compile it yourself from github or buy in the Mac App Store. Mar 01 09:21:39 I also maintain a "mod" that I think looks nicer in the light colored skin. Mar 01 09:21:43 awesome, thanks. I'll check it out. Mar 01 09:22:21 http://db.tt/Eq1c4Hc << my version Mar 01 09:32:03 Thanks for the link chpwn Mar 01 11:09:11 hi Mar 01 12:02:14 anyone alive ? Mar 01 12:03:07 joebpre: yep Mar 01 13:22:10 what do you guys think about the NDA now .. the kernel his open .. not a secret anymore Mar 01 13:32:54 the NDA does not cover the GPL kernel source code Mar 01 13:34:15 aw Mar 01 15:39:38 * halfhalo would laugh if kernel was under nda Mar 01 16:06:57 ? Mar 01 16:07:02 hmm Mar 01 16:10:33 lol Mar 01 16:11:30 LOL a comment "a successful partnership between microsoft and php developers, what could go wrong?" and the next comment "php.net" Mar 01 16:17:07 heh Mar 01 16:23:33 hey Mar 01 16:24:30 hey :D Mar 01 16:25:01 seems that my sheet with my application for the pre2 still lying around at management Mar 01 16:25:23 leiru: I've sent mine in again with the 'Pre 2' in the subject line Mar 01 16:25:25 moi aussi Mar 01 16:25:26 no response either Mar 01 16:26:35 i've wrote them last saturday, if everything is okay with the sheet or smth went wrong. Mar 01 16:27:06 - 've Mar 01 16:27:06 i could only imagine how many emails they've received on that Mar 01 16:27:11 yeah, I emailed my contact for a status update, no reply Mar 01 16:27:53 hrm strange, i got response just that evening. Mar 01 16:28:17 what sheet are you talking about leiru? Mar 01 16:28:32 but i am asking myself, how long can this sheet rot @ smo. desk. Mar 01 16:28:53 my contact send me an xls-sheet with questions Mar 01 16:28:59 cavneb: they send a spreadsheet with some questions designed to help determine your eligibility Mar 01 16:29:00 that i had to fill out Mar 01 16:29:07 ah Mar 01 16:29:18 i must be wayyy in the back of the line then Mar 01 16:29:38 by the time they fulfill these, the new palm devices will be out Mar 01 16:29:39 sent mine in 8 days ago or so, but no other communication since then Mar 01 16:29:43 heh Mar 01 16:29:54 yeah, they can send me a TouchPad instead ;) Mar 01 16:29:56 and they will send the ones they get back from the wireless companies Mar 01 16:30:22 sugardave: eligibility? to ensure about our genius! :) Mar 01 16:30:35 yeah, that! Mar 01 16:32:44 to make the waiting for the device sweeter i bought a 24" dell IPS panel yesterday. :) Mar 01 16:32:58 how is it? Mar 01 16:33:08 amazon send it out today. Mar 01 16:33:13 will arrive prob. tomorrow Mar 01 16:33:31 ah, neat Mar 01 16:34:44 people who tweet/post links that require registration should be banished Mar 01 16:37:24 IDE recommendations for webOS? is Eclipse the one? Mar 01 16:37:49 djwhitey: I use coda Mar 01 16:39:22 sorry, maybe should've been more specific: IDE for webOS on Win7? =) Mar 01 16:41:20 djwhitey: I use Eclipse for Mojo, it's fine Mar 01 16:41:33 what about enyo? Mar 01 16:41:45 I also used to use Komodo Edit and Templarian's webOS plugin for it Mar 01 16:41:51 enyo? what's that? :P Mar 01 16:42:08 looking like a plain old text editor is fine for that Mar 01 16:42:27 I'm currently checking out Geany, but that's a Linux one Mar 01 16:43:31 i'm seeing some suggestions for Aptana on precentral forums as well. never heard of that one Mar 01 16:44:34 it's an overlay for Eclipse Mar 01 16:44:49 you will need to install the Aptana thingie to use the Palm plugins for Eclipse Mar 01 16:45:11 overlay, perspective, whatever Mar 01 16:49:37 I'll weight in and say I think Eclipse sucks, so I just use a text editor Mar 01 16:51:03 * halfhalo uses the textmates on osx Mar 01 16:51:50 funkatron: Notepad++? I used eclipse for some back in college... it seemed clunky Mar 01 16:52:05 Just use whatever your fav editor is Mar 01 16:52:21 really it's entirely a personal preference. but it's not like you need some magic IDE to dev. Mar 01 16:52:30 yeah, Eclipse IS clunky Mar 01 16:52:47 eclipse is awesome Mar 01 16:52:58 with the aptana editors Mar 01 16:53:10 the best comment i've seen about it: "The best thing about the plugin for Eclipse is that it lets you package and run your apps with a single button click." Mar 01 16:53:33 lol i use gedit Mar 01 16:53:53 the main drawback is that color themes are...a pain Mar 01 16:54:09 yeah, I have a shell script that packages and runs my app with one command Mar 01 16:54:10 so, ya kow Mar 01 16:54:16 i was waiting for someone to say vi... Mar 01 16:54:16 djwhitey: you can easily write a batch file to package/run for you automatically Mar 01 16:54:23 eclipse/aptana code validation saves me a lot of headaches Mar 01 16:54:34 djwhitey: no vi on Windows without cygwin ;) Mar 01 16:54:39 whatever you like better, you'll be more productive in. Just try different stuff, and don't believe what other people say 8) Mar 01 16:54:45 that is the one feature I will not give up Mar 01 16:54:59 autocomplete? Mar 01 16:55:04 HAHAHAHA Mar 01 16:55:06 no Mar 01 16:55:18 darn Mar 01 16:55:19 for basic javascript yes Mar 01 16:55:20 =) Mar 01 16:55:33 not for Mojo, etc Mar 01 16:55:37 right Mar 01 16:56:29 Komodo edit w/ plugin is the only one with mojo autocomplete afaik Mar 01 16:56:51 and it may still be broken for 1.4.5 ... ? Mar 01 16:58:04 so...you could always take your JS file and paste into jslint, but aptana does it as I type. very handy. Mar 01 16:59:52 hey, look, a chuqui! Mar 01 17:00:57 WHAR IS 2.0 PUBLIC SDK?! WHAR?! Mar 01 17:01:54 * haeffb_pre wonders why enyo is NDA if anyone who applies is approved... Mar 01 17:02:16 to keep it out of the hands of....um....hmmm.... Mar 01 17:03:36 good MORNING all. Mar 01 17:03:57 it is Mar 01 17:04:03 I HAVE COFFEE!! FEAR ME, MORTALS!! BWA HA HA HA Mar 01 17:04:17 uh-oh Mar 01 17:05:04 chuqui! http://www.twitvid.com/6OS8F Mar 01 17:06:42 I need coofee!!! Mar 01 17:07:08 * sugardave chastises the tutorial writer who didn't use === in their test. Mar 01 17:08:00 silly tutorial writer Mar 01 17:09:16 another opinion question: for personal development & not wanting to pay for hosting -> git or svn? (assuming development in win7 environment) Mar 01 17:09:42 I am bad with all of those cvs things, but git seems pretty simple Mar 01 17:10:07 if you use github, though, your projects will be public...gotta pay to have private Mar 01 17:10:12 trying not to have to install cygwin Mar 01 17:10:21 that's what I was noticing Mar 01 17:10:33 there are some wingit things, I think Mar 01 17:11:01 halfhalo: thanks! Mar 01 17:14:37 chuqui: np Mar 01 17:18:36 hm Mar 01 17:18:46 your day starts, my day ends. :| Mar 01 17:22:23 djwhitey: SmartGit Mar 01 17:22:29 or use the msysgit Mar 01 17:23:17 or use mercurial, which is much better on Win Mar 01 17:35:20 chuqui: is there a possibility that smo. from HP/Palm would present webOS on HH.js - the hamburg javascript meetup? Mar 01 17:35:26 http://www.meetup.com/hamburg-js/ Mar 01 17:36:23 i think, the word about webOS is not spreaded enough in germany/europe. Mar 01 17:36:46 chuqui: if hp/palm doesn't send one, maybe i will give a talk :) Mar 01 17:39:37 leiru: right now, I don't know that we have someone we can send over there. When is it? Mar 01 17:39:57 contract swisstomcat to do it for you ;) Mar 01 17:41:48 chuqui: every third monday in the month, around 70-80 ppl per meetup Mar 01 17:42:11 all JS addicted :) Mar 01 17:43:57 hey Mar 01 17:44:15 leiru: do me a favor and send me a note with some of the details. What we can try to do is when we do have someone heading over the pond try to schedule them in for a meeting as well, if the timing works. Mar 01 17:45:11 leiru: we are JUST starting to talk over how to get more people doing meetups, and how to get more involved with those meetups. so it's oging to take us some time to get resources and bodies that can go on the road more frequently and build the information packages that can be used at these meetings. Mar 01 17:47:26 chuqui: ok - it's quite funny that you seem to think the same thing as I, spreading the word in meetups/usergroups :) Mar 01 17:54:13 leiru: no, both adora and I want to see us more involved with that. it's just finding the resources and getting them moving Mar 01 17:54:33 leiru: fortunately, we're staritng to hire more aggressively, so we can add people to give us bodies to throw at these things. Mar 01 18:06:02 chuqui: yes that's one way taht could be done (hiring). Mar 01 18:06:47 chuqui: i just wondered because you already plan/want exactly what i was thinking :) Mar 01 18:07:38 MINE MINE MINE: http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/10374/developer-relations-engineer-webos-hewlett-packard-palm-business Mar 01 18:07:51 mail should hit your inbox now. brb. Mar 01 18:09:08 chuqui: you should let Rebecca D. and Jon Z. know how awesome I am ;) Mar 01 18:09:22 I did, but I'm biased Mar 01 18:11:48 "Tell friends to switch to Sprint for a service credit." Not on your life Mar 01 18:13:22 sugardave: don't like Sprint ? Mar 01 18:13:41 bitches won't carry the Pre 2 or Pre 3 Mar 01 18:14:17 nooope! Mar 01 18:21:46 sugardave: can't, until they realize how awesome I am. I must be first. Mar 01 18:22:04 * halfhalo calls third Mar 01 18:22:25 hay chuqui! Mar 01 18:22:32 PatrickC_Pre: hay! Mar 01 18:22:42 when do I get a ToasterPre Mar 01 18:22:49 :) Mar 01 18:23:20 "mjst be 18 to enter" Mar 01 18:23:25 must Mar 01 18:23:29 for what? Mar 01 18:23:34 hehehe.... Mar 01 18:23:35 I'm not 18 :'( Mar 01 18:23:52 the ToasterPre raffle Mar 01 18:24:01 man... Mar 01 18:24:06 hahaha Mar 01 18:24:08 (lies about age) Mar 01 18:24:17 I ment I'm not 30 yet ;) Mar 01 18:24:17 it is totally going to get made Mar 01 18:24:28 I just turned 25 ;) Mar 01 18:24:56 * halfhalo watches his bsometer go off the scale Mar 01 18:25:08 ok, if I can't have toasterpre, can I get ToasterVeer? Mar 01 18:26:09 haeffb_pre, I'm trying to get my linux environment up :) Mar 01 18:26:52 ububtu rocks Mar 01 18:26:58 \o/ Mar 01 18:27:02 haeffb_pre: :D Mar 01 18:27:10 well, kubuntu/xubuntu Mar 01 18:27:10 \o/ Mar 01 18:27:25 freeBSD rocks, too :P Mar 01 18:27:27 Lichtlos: are you going to easterhegg? Mar 01 18:27:35 but still ubuntu none the less :) Mar 01 18:27:43 leiru: I'm not sure Mar 01 18:27:53 PatrickC_Pre: love ubuntu Mar 01 18:28:08 well ubuntu won't boot into vbox anymore.... Mar 01 18:28:11 leiru: I was going to, but I'm going to move :) Mar 01 18:28:37 Lichtlos: i will. atm i wait for the fahrplan *g* Mar 01 18:28:53 it used to... but today it wouldn't :/ Mar 01 18:28:58 leiru: what about camp? Mar 01 18:30:13 Lichtlos: i am more the pensioner- concert/congress type of person, that can sleep at his real bed @ night ;) Mar 01 18:30:36 but froscon, as my company will pay hotel & ticket :) Mar 01 18:30:54 leiru: I'm more comfortable with my equipment in dry environments.. ;) Mar 01 18:31:24 but camp is a great "holiday", isn't it? Mar 01 18:31:43 i don't like camping. Mar 01 18:31:51 word Mar 01 18:32:13 camping rocks :) Mar 01 18:33:48 so.. Mar 01 18:33:57 how is everyone liking 2.1? Mar 01 18:34:01 Thanks Chuq! Mar 01 18:34:16 (now just release it for VZW/Sprint :) Mar 01 18:36:08 how many in here run Linux of some variety? Mar 01 18:36:38 me Mar 01 18:36:46 multiple varieties Mar 01 18:36:54 vbox/dual boot/main? Mar 01 18:37:04 all 3 Mar 01 18:37:13 depends on the system Mar 01 18:37:15 awesome :p Mar 01 18:37:27 my vbox wouldn't load ubuntu10.10..... Mar 01 18:37:37 32 or 64bit? Mar 01 18:37:51 I think I have the 64 Mar 01 18:38:07 as your base system? Mar 01 18:38:07 it is a x64 windows7 machine Mar 01 18:38:20 oh, fuck if i know how virtualbox works in windows lol Mar 01 18:38:31 the base *is* x64 Mar 01 18:40:01 hi torchie! Mar 01 18:40:04 * PatrickC waves Mar 01 18:40:13