**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 11 02:59:57 2011 Mar 11 03:10:52 so much for packagekit, locked up on me just doing the first batch of updates after install Mar 11 03:11:05 looks like I'm going to kill it and go back to trusty old apt Mar 11 03:55:06 is there a way to make a commandMenu show up after a user taps something? Mar 11 03:57:41 Actually is there a way to change the "visible: false" to "visible: true" after a tap happens? Mar 11 03:59:52 sure Mar 11 04:00:07 graywolf336: that's in the model for the command menu right? Mar 11 04:00:35 Yeah I think so Mar 11 04:00:37 so in your tap handler, you just set theModel.visible = true; this.controller.modelChanged(theModel); Mar 11 04:00:42 http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/09/technology/wac_wholesale_applications/index.htm - terrible inaccurate graph .. plus it's weird they talk about html5 and say webos requires you to learn all sorts of weird frameworks like it's a completely different language Mar 11 04:00:50 but when you are instantiating it, set visible as false Mar 11 04:01:42 Ok thanks! Mar 11 04:03:26 * DougReeder waves hello Mar 11 04:03:49 Can anyone give me an RTSP url playable on a webOS device? Mar 11 04:10:18 sugardave: once again you've saved me from going crazy! Mar 11 04:13:08 * phil_bw wanders by Mar 11 04:13:47 bpadalino: won't those guys feel dumb when they find out about webOS Mar 11 04:13:50 oh wait... Mar 11 04:14:17 they will never feel dumb Mar 11 04:14:29 the sliver in the graph is just so ridiculous tho Mar 11 04:14:38 yeah, it's horrible Mar 11 04:16:24 what's new guys? Mar 11 04:16:55 um.... Mar 11 04:17:01 I got nothin' Mar 11 04:17:01 ipad2 tomorrow .. might go out over the weekend to check one out, see what it's like Mar 11 04:20:29 do I really want to write some code tonight...? Mar 11 04:21:25 no, not really Mar 11 04:21:37 ah, haeffb, I have to apologize... Mar 11 04:21:48 I accidently stole a copy of "Done"... Mar 11 04:22:09 apparently It's been so long since I bought anything from the app catalog that I hadn't updated my card Mar 11 04:22:37 and in usual Palm fashion it declined my card after providing a speedy download Mar 11 04:27:19 phil_bw: The next time you buy something Palm will charge the new app, along with the one didn't pass :) Mar 11 04:27:47 yeah I know, I was trying to be funny... sorta Mar 11 04:32:47 oh.. hehehe Mar 11 04:34:10 I'd be happy to just be able to buy anything. Mar 11 04:38:14 I sense an internationaler (not a word I know) Mar 11 04:39:10 Yeah, another Aussie. I like the device, I like the OS, but they really make it a nuisance. Mar 11 04:40:36 I just can't see how turning their back on customers who want to give them money is good for business. Mar 11 04:41:16 yeah, understandable Mar 11 04:41:47 always kind of wondered why Rod puts so much effort into webOS and doesn't even have official support there Mar 11 04:43:34 It is the hacker way. Things like that are why I've got such a healthy respect for them. Mar 11 04:44:00 It isn't a setback - it makes it a juicier challenge. Mar 11 04:44:23 indeed Mar 11 04:45:26 phil_bw: you should have just gotten the beta from preware...it's free Mar 11 04:45:35 heh Mar 11 04:45:38 didn't see it Mar 11 04:45:40 and newere Mar 11 04:45:43 -e Mar 11 04:46:06 anything fun in the beta? Mar 11 04:46:12 just type Mar 11 04:46:34 that's the major new feature. haven't done any real work on it in quite a while Mar 11 04:46:38 ah, since I'm still running 1.4.5 I won't need that Mar 11 04:47:59 I will have a 2.X device shortly, but my daily driver is a sprint pre Mar 11 04:49:57 * phil_bw sighs Mar 11 04:50:29 why must all the OpenGL ES stuff target the stupid iPhone Mar 11 04:52:33 ok I've got a set of items in a commandMenu, how do I change the icon of the first one in the set of two? Mar 11 05:05:49 hi all! Mar 11 05:06:47 hi JenP Mar 11 05:06:57 sugardave!!! HI Mar 11 05:07:08 * DougReeder waves to JenP Mar 11 05:07:14 what's shakin'? Mar 11 05:07:17 hi DougReeder Mar 11 05:07:25 nuttin....you? Mar 11 05:07:27 hi JenP =P Mar 11 05:07:32 you are single now! Mar 11 05:07:37 nyceane Mar 11 05:07:38 OMG Mar 11 05:07:49 thank you for the announcement Mar 11 05:07:55 I know, you miss me lol Mar 11 05:08:04 I just broke up with my girlfriend 2 weeks ago Mar 11 05:08:04 i do i was just on your page Mar 11 05:08:09 now we can finally be together =P Mar 11 05:08:17 oh be still my beating heart Mar 11 05:08:58 was just about to go to the gym Mar 11 05:09:08 goal is to gain 20 pounds in 2 month Mar 11 05:09:22 well get to it buddy. don't let me distract you Mar 11 05:10:43 well, still drinking protein little by little Mar 11 05:10:55 since I broke up, I have an execuse to look good again ;) Mar 11 05:10:59 gain 20? just eat some pizza and sit on your ass Mar 11 05:11:12 ah. lol yeah well for me it's lose 20 Mar 11 05:11:46 gah... what I'd give to lose just 20... Mar 11 05:11:52 got married and I could stand to lose 100... Mar 11 05:12:12 20 pounds of muscle Mar 11 05:12:15 phil_bw yeah it's funny how those pounds come on when we're in love Mar 11 05:12:23 I don't get fat, my metabalism is too high Mar 11 05:12:31 that's my deal Mar 11 05:12:51 i think i was like that in my 20's....30's are a totally different game Mar 11 05:12:53 I was 160lbs when I moved to Oregon, leveled out at 180 (healthy weight), got married and wound up around 250 :( Mar 11 05:12:53 my girlfriend wanted to get married, and that's how we broke up lol Mar 11 05:13:08 another reason not to get married =P Mar 11 05:13:08 fear of commitment? yeah that will do it Mar 11 05:13:18 JenP, no, just not ready =) Mar 11 05:13:28 can't get married when my heart is still yours =) Mar 11 05:13:30 ;) Mar 11 05:13:52 um....i asked my guy if he would go to the bakery and pick up pastries while I finished work. He flipped. Mar 11 05:14:07 aparently .... that's a lot to ask Mar 11 05:14:18 how big were they? Mar 11 05:14:47 pastries? idk like small crossiants Mar 11 05:14:59 mmm... Mar 11 05:15:01 & a loaf of french bread Mar 11 05:15:02 oh, well that guy was a dick Mar 11 05:15:07 * phil_bw likes pastries... of all types Mar 11 05:15:10 and bakery is 1 mile away Mar 11 05:15:32 yes i hate to admit that Mar 11 05:16:07 I think he just needed a reason to break up Mar 11 05:16:15 and it's funny, everybody i know is breaking up Mar 11 05:16:17 -_- Mar 11 05:16:27 spring is suppose to be break up season I guess Mar 11 05:16:33 well i was the one who broke up with him Mar 11 05:16:58 and that's when the verbal explosion occurred. Mar 11 05:17:02 any way.... Mar 11 05:17:18 let's not talk about our past Mar 11 05:17:25 AGREED Mar 11 05:17:27 let's talk about our future =) Mar 11 05:17:34 who's programming what? Mar 11 05:17:37 how you and me will be together =) Mar 11 05:17:45 the future is good, I'm having my second kid within 10 days :) Mar 11 05:17:57 gratz!!! Mar 11 05:18:02 oh phil_bw that is so wonderful! Mar 11 05:18:04 what did you name him? phil? Mar 11 05:18:05 congrats Mar 11 05:18:09 or her Mar 11 05:18:12 thanks :) Mar 11 05:18:22 her name is.. er will be.. Kaitlyn Mar 11 05:18:31 that's beautiful Mar 11 05:18:39 she sounds hot already 25 yearsd later =) Mar 11 05:18:44 Kaitlyn Rayne actually :) Mar 11 05:18:56 I came in at a bad time :p Mar 11 05:19:11 nyceane has girls on him mind PatrickC_Pre Mar 11 05:19:28 oh. that explains it Mar 11 05:19:30 gigidi gigidi Mar 11 05:19:34 gigidi goo Mar 11 05:19:35 lol Mar 11 05:19:44 nyceane: how old are you? lol Mar 11 05:19:48 11 Mar 11 05:19:50 lol Mar 11 05:19:52 too old Mar 11 05:19:53 haha Mar 11 05:20:00 lol Mar 11 05:20:03 anywayz, gona hit the gym =) Mar 11 05:20:05 older then me? Mar 11 05:20:07 ttyl guys Mar 11 05:20:12 lol Mar 11 05:20:13 cya Mar 11 05:20:18 not sure =) Mar 11 05:20:19 nyceane....20 something right Mar 11 05:20:21 go impress some girls :p Mar 11 05:20:23 PatrickC_Pre, hate to break it to ya buddy but most of the people here are older than you Mar 11 05:20:26 i just got out of a 3 year relationship Mar 11 05:20:32 that makes me pretty old lol Mar 11 05:20:36 me tooo Mar 11 05:20:39 phil_bw I know :) Mar 11 05:20:53 may be we should set them up with eachother Mar 11 05:20:56 hey I'm having my second kid, so that's gotta make me pretty old too Mar 11 05:21:23 I don't even have a girlfriend yet :p Mar 11 05:21:31 I'm young :) Mar 11 05:21:35 PatrickC_Pre your 9 right? Mar 11 05:21:41 15 :p Mar 11 05:21:46 graywolf336: just change the items array for the command menu and call modelChanged() Mar 11 05:21:49 smiles... Mar 11 05:21:55 haeffb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mar 11 05:22:01 like items[0].icon = "myNewIcon"; Mar 11 05:22:08 JenP !!!!! Mar 11 05:22:10 haeffb! wassup? Mar 11 05:22:17 sleepy Mar 11 05:22:19 OMG I miss you!!! Mar 11 05:22:24 same here Mar 11 05:22:29 Mizzou lost :( Mar 11 05:22:35 haeffb: I have that but it's not changing it :/ Mar 11 05:22:42 pastebin? Mar 11 05:22:49 JenP is single now? Mar 11 05:22:57 sure Mar 11 05:22:57 yes sir Mar 11 05:23:04 lord, there goes #webos productivity Mar 11 05:23:09 haha Mar 11 05:23:12 and "dating" not my thing Mar 11 05:23:27 sorry/happy to hear that, whichever is more appropriate... :) Mar 11 05:23:40 it's one of those bitter/sweet deals Mar 11 05:23:48 aren't they all? Mar 11 05:23:52 so true Mar 11 05:24:04 happy for the single dudes lurking in here, which means you're subsequently sorry for her :P Mar 11 05:24:07 haeffb: you sound like you have experience :p Mar 11 05:24:11 * PatrickC_Pre j/k Mar 11 05:24:11 all I can say is stay away from nyceane ... :) Mar 11 05:24:17 haeffb: http://pastebin.com/R5v6fX2z Mar 11 05:24:22 oh....I've never admitted I was a girl Mar 11 05:24:31 lol Mar 11 05:24:35 i'm one of those burley male types Mar 11 05:24:53 now I'm confused :p Mar 11 05:24:55 modelCommandPlay ? Mar 11 05:25:05 on the internet there's virtually no difference between a hot chick and a burley dude with a hot pic on his profile Mar 11 05:25:18 should it just be modelCommand? Mar 11 05:25:21 PatrickC_Pre....girls don't program.....LOL Mar 11 05:25:40 no, that's fine, just checking to see if that was the right model Mar 11 05:25:43 I know at least one besides you (I think) lol Mar 11 05:25:44 yeah Mar 11 05:26:26 modelCommandPlay.items[1].items[0] Mar 11 05:26:37 the last conference I went to...there were 3 of us. And I was the only one in heels. I have never felt so out of place being "girly" Mar 11 05:27:22 modelCommandPlay.items[1].items[0].icon = 'somethingnew'; Mar 11 05:27:28 ok, time for bed Mar 11 05:27:28 this. Mar 11 05:27:40 haeffb: thanks i works now :) Mar 11 05:27:44 nite haeffb! Mar 11 05:27:55 nice Mar 11 05:28:05 line 176 Mar 11 05:28:17 you all were smart enough to *not* write your programs in C++ using OpenGL so you won't be much help. staring at it isn't seeming to help either... so sleep is the only alternative Mar 11 05:28:34 phil_bw: stare harder! Mar 11 05:28:36 right. you had two items arrays, one inside the other. Mar 11 05:28:56 sugardave, left eye is getting blurry :/ Mar 11 05:28:58 That makes sense Mar 11 05:29:02 and with more intensity! Mar 11 05:29:48 graywolf336: which is perfectly fine Mar 11 05:29:57 just have to address it correctly Mar 11 05:30:07 btw, sugardave it's a good name your name is what it is... should you be artificiallysweeteneddave I'd have a terrible headache since I'm alergic Mar 11 05:30:12 JenP: what apps do you have out? Mar 11 05:30:19 anyhow, 'night all Mar 11 05:30:35 debt free, debt free shopping, Tasty Toons, Tasty Weather Toons Mar 11 05:30:38 phil_bw: my alter-ego is saccharinedave Mar 11 05:30:41 haeffb: yeah that was the only way i could figure out how to center the two Mar 11 05:30:49 that's how you have to do it Mar 11 05:30:49 and I helped with Pegged and Reversi Mar 11 05:30:52 sugardave, haha Mar 11 05:31:03 they are a lot better then mine :p Mar 11 05:31:11 * phil_bw wanders off in a sleepy haze Mar 11 05:31:14 night Mar 11 05:31:15 what's your's? Mar 11 05:31:17 saccharineroger would be a little more anonymous for an alter-ego Mar 11 05:31:18 night Mar 11 05:31:40 nite guys, i'm out too. tomorrows a 4am day Mar 11 05:31:44 I mean, it's Clark Kent, not SuperClark Mar 11 05:31:48 later JenP Mar 11 05:31:51 Just a Flashlight Plus/Lite, Lighter Light Beta/(Pixi), Strobe! Lite, Fog Horn Mar 11 05:32:00 night JenP Mar 11 05:32:01 hmm, you make a good point Mar 11 05:32:11 night i'll be on tomorrow. ciao all Mar 11 05:33:19 I'm out as well. g'night all. Mar 11 05:33:25 * PatrickC_Pre needs to figure out how to use the accelerometer Mar 11 05:34:22 night haeffb Mar 11 05:34:34 night haeffb Mar 11 05:38:49 * PatrickC_Pre thinks it doesn't look too hard to do.. I'm going to re-build the app in SDK though Mar 11 05:41:06 but before I do that, I'm going to get my cookies working Mar 11 05:42:44 night all Mar 11 06:59:38 Good morning Mar 11 07:00:39 'morning hotdp! Mar 11 07:19:44 morning Mar 11 07:55:10 hey swisstomcat Mar 11 07:55:22 hi hotdp Mar 11 08:26:40 => turn on your TV, see Japan => pray for them Mar 11 08:27:40 crap. not tsunamis Mar 11 08:38:20 'morning swisstomcat Mar 11 08:51:42 welcome back swisstomcat! Mar 11 08:51:50 rehi Mar 11 08:55:12 thanks for the re-tweet! Mar 11 08:55:22 Let me know if you'd be interested in trying Universe. Mar 11 09:01:13 dkirker: what's the elevator pitch? Mar 11 09:02:57 for Universe? It will have plenty more features than the default browser, and far more maintenance. I am not going to discuss one of the features yet. Though, currently you can search open cards (right now just the titles) from the card that you are in for faster switching between cards. Mar 11 09:03:30 There will also be better history management and even better bookmark management. Mar 11 09:03:50 dkirker: i'd certainly try it Mar 11 09:04:36 alright, please drop me an email to beta@openmobl.com and I'll send you information. I don't think that I have your email address. Mar 11 09:04:47 will do Mar 11 09:05:40 sent Mar 11 09:07:05 rwhitby: Want to try it as well? Mar 11 09:07:36 sure, why not Mar 11 09:08:31 not sure that I have your email address Mar 11 09:46:49 hi there Mar 11 09:47:13 is there any api expose in webos to do md5 hashing? Mar 11 09:48:38 i don't think so Mar 11 09:48:54 but you can just use any js md5 library/function Mar 11 09:49:23 yer Mar 11 09:49:28 just add it in the sources.json? Mar 11 09:49:28 i have done that Mar 11 09:50:51 or in index.html Mar 11 09:51:09 i've done it with sha256 Mar 11 09:51:26 let me try out. Thanks! Mar 11 09:57:09 oops…i should use Base64 not MD5, but seem it works! Mar 11 10:07:21 :) Mar 11 11:48:19 hi Mar 11 11:49:01 hey Mar 11 11:49:17 spring arrived in danemark? Mar 11 11:51:10 Yep Mar 11 11:51:12 Its good§! Mar 11 11:51:22 But its sad with the earthquake right now! Mar 11 11:52:04 oh, yes Mar 11 14:23:48 what's up? Mar 11 14:27:02 light bulbs, and ceiling tiles Mar 11 14:27:04 :-P Mar 11 14:28:38 lol Mar 11 14:28:45 is hp planing on taking webos fully opensource ? Mar 11 14:28:47 PatrickC_Pre: thousands of people dying Mar 11 14:29:06 that's always happening :'( Mar 11 14:29:19 needhelp1: I'm not sure, I hope so Mar 11 14:29:26 needhelp1: opensource.palm.com? Mar 11 14:29:34 Internalz hit the app catalog!!!!!! Congratulations all! Mar 11 14:30:07 how's it goin silent_ninja1? Mar 11 14:30:31 PatrickC_Pre: Jason Robitaille (sp) is the only person who made it... Mar 11 14:30:47 needhelp1, not fully, but some components Mar 11 14:31:15 SiLeNt_NiNjA1, im just hoping hp takes the entire project open source Mar 11 14:31:20 and PatrickC_Pre not to much, at work - working on stuff Mar 11 14:31:20 instead of components Mar 11 14:31:24 well, its a big feat for all webos and webos-internals :) Mar 11 14:31:47 Lichtlos, yeah, ive got a few friends in japan, ive dropped them emails, hopefully they all made it Mar 11 14:32:02 cpl friends in hawaii to, but they wernt hear all that hard Mar 11 14:32:18 does the platform depend on proprietary solutions owned by other companys? Mar 11 14:32:23 needhelp1, unlikely, hp is investing to much into it for that atm Mar 11 14:33:35 thanks for the help, i'll check back in around 6 months Mar 11 14:34:52 silent_ninja: sounds good. wish I wasn't soo far behind in school :p Mar 11 14:35:13 PatrickC_Pre, then why arnt you studying and doing homework instead of hanging out in here? Mar 11 14:35:28 I'm multi-tasking :) Mar 11 14:35:38 homework and IRC :D Mar 11 14:35:49 your education determines how far youll make it in life, dont put it 2nd in line Mar 11 14:36:27 I know Mar 11 14:36:37 that's why I'm doing more school then IRC Mar 11 14:36:58 over and out Mar 11 14:37:07 see ya hotdp Mar 11 14:37:35 PatrickC-School: except webos-internals has absolutely nothing to do with it Mar 11 14:38:28 tibfib: oh, I thought they did :o Mar 11 14:38:37 nope Mar 11 14:38:45 ok Mar 11 14:38:50 JayCanuck === Jason Robitaille Mar 11 14:39:00 JayCanuck made Internalz, Preset Reset, etc. Mar 11 14:39:06 wow, Jason made it all himself? he's good :) Mar 11 14:39:20 webos-internals made preware, save/restore, wIRC, etc. Mar 11 14:39:37 yeah he's pretty good Mar 11 14:40:31 webos-internals made FileMgr? right? Mar 11 14:41:21 no Mar 11 14:41:40 JayCanuck made internalz and webOS quick install. Mar 11 14:41:43 and filemgr Mar 11 14:42:13 ahh makes since now :p Mar 11 14:42:21 I'm starting to get it :) Mar 11 14:43:08 since? get back to school!! Mar 11 14:44:01 ok Mar 11 14:44:30 * PatrickC-School will just be lurking every so often Mar 11 14:45:31 lol Mar 11 14:47:41 ok, whose playing with copy / paste in irc? Mar 11 14:47:54 ctrl-z the cwayne clone will you? Mar 11 14:48:02 :-P Mar 11 14:48:36 nuclear fusion is immiment Mar 11 14:48:37 fuck Mar 11 14:50:12 whew, its fixed Mar 11 14:50:20 * Hendikins manages to plug the Touchstone on Whirlpool. Mar 11 14:51:19 whoa, this tsunami is ridiculous :( Mar 11 14:52:31 yeah, 8.9 Mar 11 14:52:39 biggest to hit japan in 140yrs Mar 11 14:52:57 just sent a message to a friend in hawaii asking how its looking out there Mar 11 14:52:59 heard 300 years Mar 11 14:53:16 every news site has a different idea i guess Mar 11 14:53:29 Unfortunately these things will happen. Mar 11 14:53:34 i was watching the local news Mar 11 14:53:35 yeah Mar 11 14:53:40 SiLeNt_NiNjA1: NHK? Mar 11 14:53:49 or your_ local news? ;) Mar 11 14:53:56 my local news :) Mar 11 14:53:58 detroit news Mar 11 14:54:14 i bet a web turtle could survive a tsunami Mar 11 14:55:24 not much can stand in the way of gigantic waves of water Mar 11 14:55:38 it happens, but still sucks Mar 11 14:56:47 they indicate apocalypse on 2012 Mar 11 14:56:54 OR godzilla Mar 11 14:56:55 :( Mar 11 14:57:00 they indicated that in 2000 as well Mar 11 14:57:15 and theyll indicate it again in a few more years im sure Mar 11 14:57:28 :) Mar 11 14:58:09 next time, itll be the end of the world when the std unix timestamp runs out of digits!! Mar 11 14:58:48 in 2038 ;) Mar 11 14:59:21 yup Mar 11 14:59:27 well need more bit Mar 11 14:59:29 bits* Mar 11 14:59:47 cant we compress it and get 33 bits in there? :-P Mar 11 14:59:51 oh really? Mar 11 14:59:55 we need quantum computing ;) Mar 11 14:59:57 it'll run out? Mar 11 15:00:07 most implementations are in 32bit int's Mar 11 15:00:09 (unix timestamp) Mar 11 15:00:18 I guess it has to eventually Mar 11 15:00:20 and thatll overflow out of addressable memory Mar 11 15:00:31 SiLeNt_NiNjA1: our systems won't survive til '38 Mar 11 15:00:32 it can be cast over to a 64bit int easily enough Mar 11 15:00:51 Lichtlos, dunno, ive got some that are slated to be in use till 2020 right now Mar 11 15:01:23 * Tibfib will be using the palm 18 in 2038 Mar 11 15:01:27 palm pre 18 Mar 11 15:01:35 haha Mar 11 15:01:43 Tibfib: palm after 14? Mar 11 15:01:46 except itll be the HP Post 18 Mar 11 15:01:51 hehe Mar 11 15:01:54 :) Mar 11 15:02:11 seriously, HP/Palm suck at naming their products Mar 11 15:02:15 no, it'll be the HP Pre 14+ Mar 11 15:02:37 or the HP Pre 3^14 Mar 11 15:02:40 lol Mar 11 15:02:54 HP Pre π edition Mar 11 15:02:55 HP Pre(^3^14) Mar 11 15:03:10 or just the HP Pavilion Mini Mar 11 15:03:21 Sure it won't be the HP Post IV? :P Mar 11 15:03:31 PatrickC-School, go back to school!! Mar 11 15:03:35 I like HP Pavilion Mini :) Mar 11 15:03:36 study Mar 11 15:03:40 I am Mar 11 15:03:42 recite pi till your blue in the face Mar 11 15:03:48 ok Mar 11 15:03:57 I'm blue in the face now :p Mar 11 15:04:04 1.14159... Mar 11 15:04:06 keep it up! Mar 11 15:04:11 PatrickC-School: learn C Mar 11 15:04:30 Lichtlos, he needs to learn english first it seems Mar 11 15:04:37

ahh makes since now :p Mar 11 15:04:41 there will be a test in 2 weeks Mar 11 15:04:48 m( Mar 11 15:04:59 I'm not ready for a C test :'( Mar 11 15:05:40 C shells, C Shells, by the C shores <-- rhyme about me on my laptop by the ocean Mar 11 15:06:10 zsh ftw Mar 11 15:06:16 btt: 2.1 rocks :) Mar 11 15:06:33 virtualbox 3.2 doesn't :( Mar 11 15:06:38