**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 13 02:59:57 2011 Mar 13 03:00:24 store datetime as integers in sqlite Mar 13 03:00:46 haeffb: I've stored it as integers because, in theory, sqlite should be able to do nifty things with datetime Mar 13 03:00:50 I don't even know where my SDK files are stored on ubuntu Mar 13 03:01:27 however, when I store my time, it gets stored in a format looking like Sat Mar 12 2011 19:00:08 GMT-0800 (PST) where they should look like 2011-03-13 02:51:43 Mar 13 03:02:03 haeffb: that is: I've stored it as datetime Mar 13 03:02:13 global-menus.css Mar 13 03:02:35 .palm-menu.command-menu Mar 13 03:02:37 ah right, thanks for searching for that! Mar 13 03:03:31 actually, how did you know it was there? Mar 13 03:03:36 i just always use .getTime() on my date/time objects and then new Date(varFromSql); Mar 13 03:03:52 from perusing thru all the .css files at one time or another Mar 13 03:04:36 drop the file in eclipse, then filter for "command" Mar 13 03:07:50 thanks for the hints. I would like to have a correct timestamp in the database though Mar 13 03:09:55 why are you storing incorrect timestamps? Mar 13 03:10:50 'sup sugardave. You must have watched the game tonight, since UT got beat like a drum. Mar 13 03:11:02 oh no, I didn't watch it :( Mar 13 03:13:56 sugardave made him mad Mar 13 03:14:19 madNIFICENT! Mar 13 03:14:24 lol Mar 13 03:15:34 sugardave: I don't intend to store them incorrectly. I store the javascript new Date(); object (or the way the date or time widget modifies that) Mar 13 03:15:38 well, I try to do that Mar 13 03:16:00 m4dnificent: and you want epoch time? Mar 13 03:16:07 like unix timestamp? Mar 13 03:16:24 ok, this is annoying my irc client keeps repeating everything :( Mar 13 03:16:33 you are logged in twice Mar 13 03:16:45 I shouldn't be, one of the nicks should be ghosted Mar 13 03:16:53 sigh, brb Mar 13 03:16:54 you are madnificent and m4dnificent Mar 13 03:17:59 "SQLite does not have a storage class set aside for storing dates and/or times." Mar 13 03:18:14 * haeffb has poor timing Mar 13 03:18:21 yeah, I see what the problem is now...he wants it to be an object with methods and shit after he reads it Mar 13 03:18:24 not going to happen Mar 13 03:18:25 "SQLite does not have a storage class set aside for storing dates and/or times." Mar 13 03:18:34 sugardave: no, I don't want it to be an object and shit Mar 13 03:18:39 oh? Mar 13 03:18:42 I want sqlite to compare the dates correctly Mar 13 03:18:47 see, I have a datetime column Mar 13 03:18:58 so, I enter a few dates in there Mar 13 03:19:30 but it inserts the dates I give it differently than the dates it returns when using say datetime('Now','+24 hours') Mar 13 03:19:35 sqlite datetime !== js date object Mar 13 03:20:28 haeffb: yes, fair. However, 2 things: 1) then why does sqlite accept the object and 2) how should I convert the js Date object to something that makes sqlite happy Mar 13 03:20:38 getTime() Mar 13 03:20:41 ? Mar 13 03:20:52 getTime() Mar 13 03:20:53 or .getTime() / 1000 to make it unix timestamp Mar 13 03:21:37 SELECT datetime(1092941466, 'unixepoch'); Mar 13 03:21:45 one of the examples in the datetime docs Mar 13 03:21:48 sqlite is promiscuous, it will accept anything you try to cram in it Mar 13 03:22:00 slutlite ? Mar 13 03:22:21 datetime(myDateObject.getTime()) Mar 13 03:22:24 haeffb: it may be the late hour, but LMAO Mar 13 03:22:37 heh Mar 13 03:22:39 oh, it's definitely the late hour... Mar 13 03:24:26 Anyone else compare bluetooth tethering to wifi tethering yet? i may be imagining it, but it seems less laggy and faster. Mar 13 03:24:53 "Not I," said the cat. Mar 13 03:25:45 Well, to be fair, the wifi tethering i used previously was on a pre-, and now the bluetooth is on a pixi-. Mar 13 03:27:19 love this: "the "unixepoch" modifier only works for dates between 0000-01-01 00:00:00 and 5352-11-01 10:52:47" Mar 13 03:27:33 but with the pre, i was testing it to the outer limits, playing real time games online with my laptop, to find something it wouldnt do, and the difference between the wifi on the pre and the bluetooth on the pixi is like ~75ms on Counter Strike. Mar 13 03:27:35 damn limitations... Mar 13 03:27:36 uh. that'll probably do for now. Mar 13 03:27:45 haeffb: that just won't do, I think you're wrong Mar 13 03:28:01 what if I want to go negative? Mar 13 03:28:11 looking forward to the Y5.352K bug ? Mar 13 03:28:37 yeah, I mean what happens when we need to track accurate time in time machine control apps? Mar 13 03:28:50 i thought it was y2k38 ? Mar 13 03:29:06 we might get up to linux kernal 3.0 by then Mar 13 03:29:09 apparently i DCed. Mar 13 03:29:12 Loudergood: lol Mar 13 03:29:16 sp/kernal/kernel Mar 13 03:29:40 oil: got a frankenPre 2 running? Mar 13 03:29:44 nope Mar 13 03:29:53 have you left Sprint? Mar 13 03:29:56 no Mar 13 03:30:00 still running pre- Mar 13 03:30:06 it's killing you, isn't it? Mar 13 03:30:10 meh. join the party! Mar 13 03:30:13 for some reason nomatter what i try, i can never get evdo on any other device Mar 13 03:31:00 I just activated a pre-, swapped parts, metadoc'd and up and running. Mar 13 03:31:14 but when i activated another pre-, it gets no evdo Mar 13 03:31:22 hrm. Mar 13 03:31:40 talk to Sprint? Mar 13 03:31:41 i've got 2 sitting on my desk, can't activate either Mar 13 03:31:45 meh Mar 13 03:32:29 * haeffb following normmacdonald on twitter now. dude's funny. Mar 13 03:32:57 i need to unfollow some people Mar 13 03:33:16 i keep getting suggested to follow charliesheen Mar 13 03:33:22 some idiots Mar 13 03:33:33 are you using the online activation tool? Mar 13 03:33:40 yeah Mar 13 03:33:50 that's what I did as well. no problems. Mar 13 03:34:00 are your pre-'s clean ESNs? Mar 13 03:34:04 yeah Mar 13 03:34:11 i can make and receive calls Mar 13 03:34:12 but no evdo Mar 13 03:34:18 can't sign into a profile Mar 13 03:34:20 but no EVDO. blah. Mar 13 03:34:23 waste of fucking time Mar 13 03:34:59 I'd take them into Sprint and demand they fix 'em. Never mind that little "warranty sticker" thingy. Mar 13 03:35:10 meh, its not that big of deal Mar 13 03:35:12 just get all irate, maybe they'll fold Mar 13 03:35:19 hi mattsmcnulty Mar 13 03:35:29 hi Mar 13 03:35:32 yeah, my gf did that when she left att Mar 13 03:35:42 * sugardave shuns mattsmcnulty. "No TouchPad yet." Mar 13 03:35:47 they folded over the phone..I was standing here with my jaw on the floor Mar 13 03:36:01 haeffb: but unixepoch doesn't seem to work when doing datetime('Now','unixepoch'); Mar 13 03:36:03 please tell me webos on pcs is the straight up primary os and not some quickly-deleted instant-on dealie Mar 13 03:36:05 sugardave: there's a reason I am working this weekend Mar 13 03:36:09 (no ; ) Mar 13 03:36:14 well, my whole team actually Mar 13 03:36:15 mattsmcnulty: woo Mar 13 03:36:25 mattsmcnulty: so you haven't had a chance to pick up an ipad2 yet ? Mar 13 03:36:27 :P Mar 13 03:36:40 madnificent: no, because 'Now' isn't a timestring in DDDDDDDDDD format Mar 13 03:36:43 mattsmcnulty: I figured it was because you need everyone to do chuqui's job while he's on vacation Mar 13 03:36:48 or however many DDD's there are supposed to be Mar 13 03:36:53 I picked up an ipad2 today in fact Mar 13 03:36:54 * oil isnt sure webos taking over from windows is the best idea Mar 13 03:36:57 iped twos Mar 13 03:37:01 mattsmcnulty: oh yeah? nice! Mar 13 03:37:10 seems like it would be better as some sort of extra layer, letting you do special things, but without killing the main os Mar 13 03:37:17 like, reply to a text Mar 13 03:37:23 hey apple got away with not making windows computers Mar 13 03:37:28 or answer call through pc, but still, you know, be able to run windows computers Mar 13 03:37:42 yeah it'd be perfect for the typical mac user ;) Mar 13 03:37:49 yup, ipad2 is syncing right now. I do love apple products Mar 13 03:37:50 i like my mac :( Mar 13 03:37:55 I have an iphone 4 as well Mar 13 03:37:56 if it's just gonna be a layer on windows it might as well just be windows Mar 13 03:37:59 I said typical Mar 13 03:38:09 just go full on and flood the market with high quality webos desktops Mar 13 03:38:15 mattsmcnulty: i don't like how the ipad still needs to be synched first before you can do anything with it Mar 13 03:38:17 So, Leo doesn't like that the iPad2 is out but the Touchpad is not...? Mar 13 03:38:19 i think that's very lame :( Mar 13 03:38:22 and a nexus s, and a veer, pre 3, etc Mar 13 03:38:26 wintel is for dell Mar 13 03:38:28 honestly if I wasn't so hung up on the trackpoint... Mar 13 03:38:37 haeffb: but it is that functionality with Now that I want to be able to use Mar 13 03:38:38 helps when you can expense like everything as research Mar 13 03:38:42 mattsmcnulty: how's the nexus s? I'm thinking of getting one if sprint announces it at ctia Mar 13 03:38:52 eh, ok if you don't mind android Mar 13 03:38:53 mattsmcnulty: new Date() is always "now" Mar 13 03:38:53 haeffb: otherwise I'd store it as numbers or strings, but then why would the support in the database be good? Mar 13 03:38:56 personally I still hate it Mar 13 03:38:57 I kind of mind >:( Mar 13 03:39:15 hardware is nice. light, but plasticky and kind of cheap-feeling in that way Mar 13 03:39:17 but it's better than the overskinned, incompatible monstrosities that are from not-google Mar 13 03:39:21 sugardave: yes, but datetime('Now','Weekday 0','-7 days') is quite nice :) Mar 13 03:39:23 agreed Mar 13 03:39:38 only reason I got it was because it was unskinned android Mar 13 03:39:44 and I wanted to try out a certain js framework on it Mar 13 03:39:46 * oil must not be in the webos on pc demographic Mar 13 03:39:50 haeffb: thanks for the advice though, it's good to hear that it isn't supposed to 'just work' Mar 13 03:39:52 madnificent: is datetime an sql command or something, I'm failing to catch the nuance Mar 13 03:39:54 madnificent: you store your date objects using datetime(smth.getTime()) so it's stored in sqlite as a datetime object. then datetime('now', '+24hours') to select & such Mar 13 03:40:03 * halfhalo has an epic... hates it Mar 13 03:40:10 datetime(new Date().getTime(), ...) Mar 13 03:40:15 or whatever Mar 13 03:40:22 haeffb: the select doesn't seem to work correctly Mar 13 03:40:37 haeffb: if that is supposed to work that way, then I'll search for it tomorow Mar 13 03:40:47 sugardave: now is, I don't know about the modifiers Mar 13 03:40:50 the 4g phnoes just aren't there yet Mar 13 03:40:59 sugardave: actually, I have serious doubts about the modifiers Mar 13 03:41:13 chipsets aren't integrated, so they require a lot of space, which requires largeness or a big screen to hide everything behind Mar 13 03:41:23 at least LTE Mar 13 03:41:29 word word Mar 13 03:41:33 thanks for the help haeffb and sugardave :) Mar 13 03:41:40 OMG TEH BIG SCREENZ Mar 13 03:41:45 omg teh wrong sized screenz Mar 13 03:41:48 sugardave: http://www.sqlite.org/lang_datefunc.html Mar 13 03:42:06 this just in: godzilla is now attacking japan too Mar 13 03:42:14 mattsmcnulty: really? how much more space could it be than the pre with an RF section, the qualcomm baseband, and an OMAP? it isn't about the same amount of space? Mar 13 03:42:31 haeffb: ah, I see Mar 13 03:42:44 qualcom does not have an integrated LTE/CDMA chipset yet Mar 13 03:42:47 lol at the godzilla trending Mar 13 03:42:49 so you have to have both Mar 13 03:43:11 mattsmcnulty: sure, but the one running LTE could also be your GPP, right? run the UI and whatnot ? Mar 13 03:43:17 I mean seriously - you have to start wondering what could go wrong Mar 13 03:43:18 * haeffb thinks it's a matter of correctly storing the js date object as a sqlite datetime Mar 13 03:43:26 gpp? Mar 13 03:43:32 general purpose processor Mar 13 03:43:42 no, it's the radio, etc Mar 13 03:43:49 the cpu isn't doubled Mar 13 03:43:59 it doesn't do the baseband as well ? Mar 13 03:44:10 then using SELECT with the datetime and modifiers and such Mar 13 03:44:16 in order to have LTE you need a separate chip for that Mar 13 03:44:17 interesting Mar 13 03:44:26 at least at this exact moment Mar 13 03:44:30 it is coming soon Mar 13 03:44:34 sure Mar 13 03:45:03 if gadget blogs knew just a tiny bit of the industry they could go find this out themselves and save themselves all of the "iphone LTE coming this month!" crap Mar 13 03:45:04 * sugardave would use ? substitution in the SELECT and pass new Date().getTime() and the others in the substitution array. Mar 13 03:45:28 * haeffb doesn't like the sound of this for the prospects of seeing webOS on Sprint again "coming soon" Mar 13 03:45:31 but then they couldn't drum up hits when nothing is happening Mar 13 03:45:45 I said not on the market right now Mar 13 03:45:48 not that it can't come soon Mar 13 03:45:54 do you have to support all the bandwidths with LTE or can you support a subset and be considered LTE compatible ? Mar 13 03:45:55 and sprint isn't LTE Mar 13 03:46:00 no idea Mar 13 03:46:08 I am not a radio/hardware guy Mar 13 03:46:17 I'm a billion layers above that Mar 13 03:46:23 one BILLION Mar 13 03:46:31 sprint messed up Mar 13 03:46:32 give or take a few million Mar 13 03:46:34 palm 2 not available on it Mar 13 03:46:38 when they originally had the palm p1 Mar 13 03:46:44 no wonder new hardware takes so long.. Mar 13 03:46:46 now they're fallin off the chain Mar 13 03:46:48 shades: agree Mar 13 03:47:01 met a guy today in the ipad2 line who had a sprint pre for a while .. but switched to a vzw iphone when it came out Mar 13 03:47:05 i have decide who i'm switching to, well the choice is obvious, android or maemo Mar 13 03:47:09 real nice guy Mar 13 03:47:18 fk iphone Mar 13 03:47:22 no keybaord == piece of shit Mar 13 03:47:31 to each their own Mar 13 03:47:43 whoever has the Pre 3 after or shortly after my contract is up, I'm going there Mar 13 03:47:44 i'd like to see a slate webos phone Mar 13 03:47:47 if you want devices from a particular manufacturer on a particular network, call that network Mar 13 03:47:48 i play classical guitar, touchscreens which only register finger PAD not NAIL presses suck in my opinion Mar 13 03:47:51 I'm pretty sure Sprint is not getting it Mar 13 03:47:56 mattsmcnulty: I have Mar 13 03:47:57 i would even go so far as to say borderline discirmination Mar 13 03:48:02 many times Mar 13 03:48:34 they keep calling to ask me to upgrade phones/renew contract and I say "I'm waiting for you to get a new Palm webOS phone" Mar 13 03:48:54 what do they say? Mar 13 03:48:56 when yo usay that Mar 13 03:49:06 I like sprint - their network is nice, from personal experience. Mar 13 03:49:06 unfortunately for me, ATT, Vze and T-mo do not offer service here. Mar 13 03:49:14 Vzw Mar 13 03:49:18 t-mo has pretty bad coverage Mar 13 03:49:28 I didn't think such a place existed Mar 13 03:49:38 i never really had problems Mar 13 03:49:44 shades: they say "Ok, we'll get back to you." Mar 13 03:49:44 idk what the deal is with most people Mar 13 03:49:52 Mar 13 03:49:54 Loudergood: 63552 Mar 13 03:49:57 yeah I don't think there's a tmo tower within 100 miles of here Mar 13 03:50:00 i must seat enough to become a good enough antenna Mar 13 03:50:05 *sweat Mar 13 03:50:11 or somethin Mar 13 03:50:13 g Mar 13 03:50:41 so i thin i'm getting an htc dezire z Mar 13 03:50:43 that zip code will get you on Sprint or US Cellular, but not Verizon, AT&T or T-Mobile. Mar 13 03:50:43 quadband Mar 13 03:50:54 ah us cellular Mar 13 03:50:56 i'll let you know how it fairs over on the 2g bumfukistan networks Mar 13 03:51:06 only two carriers in .af Mar 13 03:51:20 800 and 1900 Mar 13 03:51:45 I can use my unlocked Pre2 on a local GSM carrier but they have "2G data" Mar 13 03:51:49 you're as far out from civilization as I am Mar 13 03:52:15 haeffb: so? Mar 13 03:52:20 although the sales guy tells me they're moving to "4G" sometime in the near future. Mar 13 03:52:22 mattsmcnulty: do you ever care to go down to the hardware level ? Mar 13 03:52:54 I like knowing about the hardware stuff and I have some veto power and am in the room on those decisions, but I am not super into that stuff technically Mar 13 03:53:16 carriers moved to 4g Mar 13 03:53:25 some law was passed in congress redefining what 3g/4g meant Mar 13 03:53:36 mattsmcnulty: I hope you didn't veto the holographic projector Mar 13 03:53:57 needs LCARS theme Mar 13 03:54:02 I did see the 3d screen ala nintendo 3ds like 9 months ago Mar 13 03:54:19 neat but not the most practical thing, imo Mar 13 03:54:35 * halfhalo played with the 3ds at e3 Mar 13 03:54:55 wtf cares about practical? :D Mar 13 03:55:05 yeah it's going to take someone really extraordinarily brilliant to come up with a UI for that that's not just pretty, but useful Mar 13 03:55:20 oh, I can imagine the UI Mar 13 03:55:37 cards are already semi-3d really, how you zoom out, etc Mar 13 03:56:16 i think i am fine with sticking with 2d :( Mar 13 03:56:20 yeah, but I mean something that can't be "simulated" in 2d that's useful Mar 13 03:56:23 I would make it be tied in with some kind of proximity/device detecting system...when you get close to an iPhone/Android you can have it come on and project "Your phone sux!" or something Mar 13 03:56:49 have you guys played with a 3d tv? Mar 13 03:56:51 I have one Mar 13 03:57:04 no, not a tv Mar 13 03:57:06 it is pretty interesting. noticed after a while if someone else walks up to the screen, it can look like they are in the movie Mar 13 03:57:13 you can't do that at th emovies Mar 13 03:57:14 no, I wanted to see a Bravia one, but they closed the sony style store in Austin Mar 13 03:57:21 so theoretically you could do that with a UI on a phone Mar 13 03:57:31 and use prox sensors and cameras to have the UI react Mar 13 03:57:44 this isn't that far out. 2 years maybe? Mar 13 03:57:56 i even like my movies at 24fps :( Mar 13 03:58:00 except for what it would do to the batteries, yes Mar 13 03:58:03 i disable all the interpolation Mar 13 03:58:19 oh yes, batteries need to catch up Mar 13 03:58:30 normmacdonald on a roll tonight. Mar 13 03:58:40 so much tech waiting on batteries now... Mar 13 03:59:11 actually the cool tech that I really want to see now is a solar back for kindle/nook Mar 13 03:59:23 I don't see why it couldn't be done. Mar 13 04:01:13 would be easy, and the kindle requires so little power Mar 13 04:01:33 sometimes I wish I was an EE Mar 13 04:02:08 * haeffb started school as an EE. Got lost and ended up in CE. Mar 13 04:02:41 Mar 13 04:03:10 heh, I started as a meteorologist and ended up in CIS Mar 13 04:07:42 well i started in CIS and ended up a meterologist, guess thats just how things go Mar 13 04:07:50 xD Mar 13 04:08:08 that explains everything Mar 13 04:08:10 lol Mar 13 04:08:12 met majors are crazy Mar 13 04:08:28 meh, college Mar 13 04:08:31 * oil falls asleep Mar 13 04:09:11 as soon as I was surrounded by people who spouted off things like "this reminds me of hurricane joseph in 1947" I knew I was in the wrong field Mar 13 04:09:20 * haeffb considering re-meta-doctoring the frankenPre2 to see if I can get rid of the random luna restarts Mar 13 04:09:20 haha Mar 13 04:09:52 if there were trading cards for the weather channel these people would've had them Mar 13 04:10:13 oops wrong channel Mar 13 04:30:02 just thought i should mention i found someone selling a really cheap palm pre 2 Mar 13 04:30:20 i bought it but havent had a chance to play around with it yet Mar 13 04:31:34 its on rogers wireless, running 2.0.1 Mar 13 04:51:22 hello people Mar 13 04:51:28 howdy everyone Mar 13 04:51:48 hay tibfib! Mar 13 04:51:58 hey PatrickC_Pre Mar 13 04:52:03 how's it goin? Mar 13 04:52:52 "Sorry, Photobucket Mobile doesn't support your phone" Mar 13 04:52:55 :'( Mar 13 04:57:19 going good! Mar 13 04:57:25 PatrickC_Pre: you? Mar 13 04:57:33 goin good Mar 13 04:57:45 just finished preparing a sermon Mar 13 04:57:47 :) Mar 13 04:58:02 sermon? Mar 13 04:58:21 I'm surrendered to be a Pastor, and I preach to our bus teens Mar 13 04:59:34 ah Mar 13 05:00:05 yep Mar 13 05:01:45 an app I have, the icon disappeared... but the name is still there.. and I can still click on it Mar 13 05:02:45 how's it been oil? and what Preware file should I look in to find that code? Mar 13 05:02:56 * oil is not going to tell you Mar 13 05:03:22 why not? lol Mar 13 05:03:56 because? Mar 13 05:04:14 to be able to implement it means you should be able to find it in the first place Mar 13 05:04:16 its not like its hidden Mar 13 05:04:53 I looked in all the obvious files.. lol (well, what I thought was obvious) Mar 13 05:05:06 * halfhalo found it Mar 13 05:05:22 you should be able to think "the popup is here, thats here in the code, that references this, and there it is" Mar 13 05:05:49 popup? Mar 13 05:06:03 I don't need a popup.. or I'm confused lol Mar 13 05:06:15 obviously :) Mar 13 05:06:22 lol Mar 13 05:07:05 set your clocks forward 1 hr :) Mar 13 05:07:14 its only 9pm Mar 13 05:07:23 yeah weirdo Mar 13 05:07:29 GET WITH THE TIMES MAN Mar 13 05:07:34 oh crap, is it time to spring ahead already ? Mar 13 05:07:37 * Tibfib is staying up to time travel Mar 13 05:07:48 doesnt it not happen until like 4 in the morning anyways? Mar 13 05:07:55 I thought it was at midnight? Mar 13 05:08:00 2am Mar 13 05:08:04 DANGIT Mar 13 05:08:05 2? Mar 13 05:08:09 yep Mar 13 05:08:19 yeah, at 2 you skip to 3 Mar 13 05:08:19 * Tibfib isn't going to stay up to time travel Mar 13 05:08:30 and its 11:06 by me oil :p Mar 13 05:08:40 I'm in your future Mar 13 05:08:53 I am the maker of my own future Mar 13 05:08:58 we're doomed Mar 13 05:09:15 but rod is in my future Mar 13 05:09:21 and yours Mar 13 05:09:35 no, he's on his way to sf Mar 13 05:09:50 what's goin on there? Mar 13 05:09:51 yup Mar 13 05:09:54 stuff Mar 13 05:09:56 idk, some business thing Mar 13 05:10:08 sounds like fun :p Mar 13 05:10:29 * PatrickC_Pre wishes he could figure out what's up with this app icon Mar 13 05:14:21 I think I'm going to have to steal my dad's bose quietcomfort3 headphones Mar 13 05:14:28 ugg Mar 13 05:14:33 BOSE!!! Mar 13 05:14:42 halfhalo: blah blah Mar 13 05:14:49 get JLabs Mar 13 05:14:53 * halfhalo hearts his shures Mar 13 05:15:05 they r cheap and they work great! lol Mar 13 05:15:19 * halfhalo has never heard of jlabs so he automagically assumes its crap Mar 13 05:15:39 well, they are cheap, jlabaudio.com I believe Mar 13 05:15:42 * Tibfib is probably going to get klipsch s4 or something Mar 13 05:16:07 for like $20 you get noise isolating with remote and mic Mar 13 05:16:14 * halfhalo should point out his shures cost around 400 Mar 13 05:16:24 really want to try some klipsch, shure, and sennheiser Mar 13 05:16:33 * PatrickC_Pre doesn't have that kind of money Mar 13 05:16:38 torchie!!! hay Mar 13 05:16:43 sup Mar 13 05:16:47 I got my first high end pair of in ears a few months ago Mar 13 05:16:48 how's it goin? Mar 13 05:16:59 been aight Mar 13 05:17:03 * halfhalo drops cash on earbuds, sunglasses, flipflops, and watches Mar 13 05:17:11 I like JLabs and I'm stickin with them Mar 13 05:17:17 my hearing isn't good enough for all that fancy stuff Mar 13 05:17:21 these are the ones I'm probably getting: http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-IMAGE-S4-Noise-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B001V9LPT4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top Mar 13 05:17:28 I have panasonic zirconia Mar 13 05:17:42 their warranty program is amazing lol Mar 13 05:17:46 actually, probably these: http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-S4i-Premium-Noise-Isolating-3-Button/dp/B00264GYMG/ref=pd_cp_e_1 Mar 13 05:17:47 not sure if my hearing is good enough or if I even have the right audiophile-y equipment and blah blah but Mar 13 05:17:48 my word Mar 13 05:17:49 I like the buttons Mar 13 05:18:01 the panasonics are built like tanks and sound great Mar 13 05:18:04 good enough! Mar 13 05:18:10 * halfhalo refuses to warrenty repair anything less than 60 bucks Mar 13 05:18:27 its free Mar 13 05:18:34 man Mar 13 05:18:35 repair? Mar 13 05:18:35 free shipping, free buds Mar 13 05:18:39 how about don't break Mar 13 05:18:40 not in regards to time Mar 13 05:18:48 "they stopped working, here's another pair" Mar 13 05:18:59 you're in the middle of the battlefield Mar 13 05:19:07 you will die in 5 minutes no questions asked Mar 13 05:19:09 and all you want to do Mar 13 05:19:16 before you go out Mar 13 05:19:20 is listen to the black eyed peas. Mar 13 05:19:39 these are the ones I *have* Mar 13 05:19:40 headphones gotta work then Mar 13 05:19:41 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002RWJDB6/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1299993362&sr=8-1 Mar 13 05:19:56 uggg Mar 13 05:20:04 anything under 50 is crap Mar 13 05:20:07 what??? Mar 13 05:20:13 they are nice and they work Mar 13 05:20:20 for not a lot of money Mar 13 05:20:23 I dunno I kind of liked JVC marshmallow Mar 13 05:20:29 the Pre2 is under 50 Mar 13 05:20:34 is it crap??? Mar 13 05:20:36 and I have a guilty pleasure for those goddamned skullcandy ink'd Mar 13 05:20:38 "nice" as is better than ipods default but not vs real headphones Mar 13 05:20:46 http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RP-HJE900-K-Zirconia-Earbud-Headphones/dp/B002R1MDQY Mar 13 05:20:49 <3 Mar 13 05:21:03 patrickC i bought a pre2 from a guy off contract Mar 13 05:21:05