**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 13 02:59:57 2011
Apr 13 03:03:23 <haeffb> what's new, fellas?
Apr 13 03:03:39 <PatrickC_Pre2> precentrals leak
Apr 13 03:04:52 <haeffb> they need a pipe wrench?
Apr 13 03:05:02 <rwhitby> and the interesting conundrum that presents for the PreCentral editors: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2936119
Apr 13 03:05:37 <PatrickC_Pre2> lol
Apr 13 03:10:56 <haeffb> heh.
Apr 13 03:12:19 <haeffb> precentral's relationship with Palm is a strange, tangled mess...
Apr 13 03:13:09 <PatrickC_Pre2> "Hmm how many times can you poke a sleeping giant in th eye before he swallows someone whole??" hehe
Apr 13 03:19:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> night all
Apr 13 04:51:54 <dkirker> hi Adora!
Apr 13 04:53:45 <halfhalo> dundundun
Apr 13 06:00:12 <hotdp> Godmorgning
Apr 13 06:14:23 <MetaView> moin, moin
Apr 13 06:14:41 <hotdp> Its a big "leak" on pc i must say
Apr 13 06:16:27 <MetaView> was predictable(?)
Apr 13 06:16:53 <hotdp> I guess so
Apr 13 06:30:37 <avarus> moin
Apr 13 06:31:26 <hotdp> yo
Apr 13 06:32:56 <avarus> I left my earphone plugged into the jack of the pixi plus over the night and the battery drained from 64% to 0 :P...is the earphone the reason? does the pixi leaves the power on the jack always on when I have something plugged into it?
Apr 13 06:33:16 <hotdp> dunno
Apr 13 06:34:37 <avarus> I once had the same effect with my iphone, but there I had the vga connected
Apr 13 06:35:02 <hotdp> I thought that the sound where just transfered to another speaker
Apr 13 06:35:12 <hotdp> so if no music was playing i don't get it
Apr 13 06:35:29 <avarus> me neither; I'll test it today
Apr 13 06:35:40 <avarus> perhaps the display for the battery is just wrong
Apr 13 07:27:58 <avarus> see you later
Apr 13 07:36:47 <swisstomcat> morning
Apr 13 07:43:04 <hotdp> morning swisstomcat
Apr 13 07:43:15 <swisstomcat> morning hotdp
Apr 13 10:37:06 <madnificent> filterlists aren't funny, or so it seems
Apr 13 11:10:44 <dawm|laptop> woo
Apr 13 11:10:51 <dawm|laptop> i drew a png ;D
Apr 13 11:13:39 <madnificent> dawm|laptop: with WebOS?
Apr 13 11:14:05 <dawm|laptop> kinda
Apr 13 11:14:29 <madnificent> also, does anyone have experience with filterlists?  I'm having an issue with the filterFunction not receiving the correct string
Apr 13 11:14:32 <dawm|laptop> coverting a canvas game to pdk.. learning c++ and SDL
Apr 13 11:14:39 <madnificent> dawm|laptop: cool
Apr 13 11:14:49 <madnificent> ah, SDL -> png is what you did?
Apr 13 11:15:37 <dawm|laptop> just painted a image file to the screen
Apr 13 11:16:01 <dawm|laptop> simple and easy to do, but im writing my own sprite/drawing class to mimic what i had in js
Apr 13 11:16:29 <dawm|laptop> finally was able to test it, and it worked
Apr 13 11:17:04 <madnificent> dawm|laptop: always fun to experience
Apr 13 11:30:22 <madnificent> how do you remove all items of a filterlist?
Apr 13 11:30:26 <madnificent> s/of/from/
Apr 13 11:32:57 <dawm|laptop> clear the model?
Apr 13 11:47:36 <haeffb> madnificent: no troubles with filter string for me...
Apr 13 12:00:50 <dawm> gee thanks windows for restarting on me and moving all my icons around..
Apr 13 12:06:45 <madnificent> haeffb: I have a function which returns the number of items that match the current search and I have a function which returns the items itself (for a given offset and limit), however I can't seem te meld it all together
Apr 13 12:07:24 <madnificent> haeffb: for starters, the filterFunction doesn't seem to receive what the user has typed in so far (I've worked around that)
Apr 13 12:08:08 <haeffb> what's different about what it receives? missing some characters?
Apr 13 12:08:11 <madnificent> however, now I have 3 results or so, but the rest of the list doesn't get removed.
Apr 13 12:08:18 <madnificent> haeffb: it receives an empty string
Apr 13 12:09:03 <madnificent> haeffb: however, by listening for the updateFilterValue event, I can get the contents and I now publish them in my object.
Apr 13 12:09:12 <hotdp> bbl
Apr 13 12:09:51 <madnificent> so that gives me the search string, which is an advancement, however I haven't figured out how to set the items in the list in a simple manner.  Can't I just set all the items that should be displayed at a certain time?
Apr 13 12:10:50 <haeffb> I use noticeUpdatedItems() and setLength()
Apr 13 12:11:16 <haeffb> and setCount() to change the little count pill in the filterlist textbox
Apr 13 12:11:17 <madnificent> haeffb: hmm, not noticeAddedItems :)
Apr 13 12:11:35 <haeffb> added would seem to imply that you're adding to the existing list
Apr 13 12:12:00 <madnificent> haeffb: it's the only meaningful thing I could find, but that'll probably be it
Apr 13 12:12:36 <haeffb> here's my filterFunction:  http://pastebin.com/8SDgaLyg
Apr 13 12:13:04 <madnificent> thanks haeffb
Apr 13 12:13:12 <madnificent> any idea where I can find documentation on noticeUpdatedItems ?
Apr 13 12:13:54 <haeffb> list widget docs?
Apr 13 12:17:02 <madnificent> haeffb: yup, that did the trick
Apr 13 12:17:25 <madnificent> haeffb: to be frank, I really couldn't find all too much meaningful information in either the ListWidget and the FilterListWidget
Apr 13 12:17:35 <madnificent> perhaps I just need a coffee
Apr 13 12:32:05 <haeffb> bbl
Apr 13 14:48:55 <dohtem> http://www.flickr.com/photos/yospiff/3237382510/ - hah!
Apr 13 15:22:49 <jettero> is there a simple way to suspend sleep mode on my phone from the root shell (something in /proc) and then turn it back on after a while?
Apr 13 15:23:22 <jettero> hrm, I should check the internals wiki
Apr 13 15:52:43 <oil> http://i53.tinypic.com/hugdbk.png
Apr 13 15:52:46 <oil> haha :)
Apr 13 15:53:21 <scoinvPre> Dalvik VM on WebOS? Yes, No, Maybe?
Apr 13 15:56:23 <halfhalo> lol
Apr 13 15:56:53 <scoinvPre> Yes, No, Maybe, LOL?
Apr 13 15:57:26 <halfhalo> lol to oil, its webos, why not to you
Apr 13 16:03:12 <summatusmentis> oil: that echos my sentiments pretty much exactly
Apr 13 16:03:19 <oil> heh
Apr 13 16:05:37 <MetaView> well, you can switch off the autocorrectur
Apr 13 16:05:50 <MetaView> just my 2cents
Apr 13 16:06:04 <MetaView> scoinvPre: Dalvik? yes, just do it
Apr 13 16:06:52 <scoinvPre> MetaView: If I had the skills, I would.
Apr 13 16:07:27 <MetaView> oh, ok
Apr 13 16:08:58 <oil> wirc has an option to turn it off on its inputs
Apr 13 16:16:59 <summatusmentis> oil: can you explain to me the way wirc does auto-complete?
Apr 13 16:17:19 <oil> uh
Apr 13 16:17:32 <halfhalo> lol
Apr 13 16:17:32 <summatusmentis> what does setting the autocomplete char do?
Apr 13 16:17:42 <oil> it is done by mojo
Apr 13 16:18:06 <oil> oh
Apr 13 16:18:15 <oil> auto complete, not correct
Apr 13 16:18:24 <summatusmentis> yes
Apr 13 16:18:24 <oil> its gesture+orange
Apr 13 16:18:56 <summatusmentis> oooh, ok
Apr 13 16:19:12 <oil> so you start typing, like hal
Apr 13 16:19:22 <oil> then gesture+orange
Apr 13 16:19:27 <oil> and itl say halfhalo
Apr 13 16:19:30 <summatusmentis> I kept expecting it to act like the way webOS does (from u -> you) and have it react to when I hit ":"
Apr 13 16:19:41 <oil> no, it puts that character after the nick
Apr 13 16:19:47 <summatusmentis> ok, cool
Apr 13 16:19:51 <Sharma> how to configure vpn policies on Palm to connect to HP network ?
Apr 13 16:21:12 <scoinvPre> Sharma: I don't think you can because it requires client side certificate.
Apr 13 16:21:42 <Sharma> is it not possible with the OATH authentication ?
Apr 13 16:21:45 <scoinvPre> Sharma: would like to know the same answer.
Apr 13 16:25:08 <scoinvPre> Sharma: maybe try internal HP search or pose question to a Distribution List.
Apr 13 16:26:28 <Sharma> scoinvPre: sure sir.. will try that out
Apr 13 17:55:21 <PuffTheMagic> .
Apr 13 18:17:43 <SineOt> Huh. An otter with a rock on its head. http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200612/11/29/a0091329_23201943.jpg :I
Apr 13 18:19:01 <RagingMind> SineOt, holy crap that's adorable
Apr 13 18:19:29 <martinhacks> my first app is online now :D
Apr 13 18:19:35 <SineOt> http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200612/11/29/a0091329_23194165.jpg Yeah it is
Apr 13 18:19:36 <RagingMind> I think webos should take an otter on as a mascot, just for the shear cute factor
Apr 13 18:19:36 <martinhacks> well sort of, in the beta catalogue
Apr 13 18:19:48 <martinhacks> still feels good though :)
Apr 13 18:19:48 <SineOt> that's why DailyOtter.org is like, the best site on the internet
Apr 13 18:20:01 <SineOt> martinhacks: awesome! Which app is it?
Apr 13 18:20:10 <martinhacks> MensaToday
Apr 13 18:20:34 <SineOt> Oh, the meal planning one, yeah? I think at least XD
Apr 13 18:21:16 <RagingMind> or webos-internals could use an otter :)
Apr 13 18:21:51 <RagingMind> hmm... a dailyotter app with wallpaper option is very tempting
Apr 13 18:22:58 <SineOt> Y'know, I've always said that Hexley was a better mascot than Tux. Probably because Hexley is closer to an otter :p
Apr 13 18:26:43 <martinhacks> yeah that one SineOt :)
Apr 13 18:27:42 <RagingMind> platypus are cute too... though venomous
Apr 13 18:28:00 <Hendikins> RagingMind: The idea of one for webos-internals is otterly ridiculous.k
Apr 13 18:28:04 <Hendikins> :P
Apr 13 18:28:15 <scoinvPre> why won't it thottle the bit per sec?
Apr 13 18:28:51 <scoinvPre> but you could still download a video slowly or buffer
Apr 13 18:29:15 <scoinvPre> oops
Apr 13 18:29:21 <scoinvPre> wrong channel.
Apr 13 18:29:22 <scoinvPre> :(
Apr 13 18:29:35 <SineOt> Ah, but only male platypuses are venomous! Given that Hexley lacks any heel spurs, I have my doubts about Hexley being male :p
Apr 13 18:29:49 <SineOt> Which might also make Hexley like the only open source mascot that isn't either genderless or male
Apr 13 18:31:55 <Hendikins> And... otters behaving badly: http://d.facdn.net/art/hendikins/1276231708.hendikins_img_1147.jpg
Apr 13 18:32:11 <Hendikins> (Worksafe)
Apr 13 18:38:37 <SineOt> Hendikins: murrpurr :U
Apr 13 18:41:23 <Hendikins> SineOt: Did this channel suddenly jump to furnet or something? :P
Apr 13 18:41:50 <SineOt> Hell if I know.
Apr 13 18:48:14 <SineOt> The Xoom hardware is built really well, but the more I read abotu the software, the more I just go "what the hell"
Apr 13 18:48:46 <SineOt> Playing with it, I kept managing to somehow crash the photos app, and now I'm reading that it has a MicroSD card slot... That's disabled in software? What. :I
Apr 13 18:49:37 <Hendikins> That seems a bit pointless, although possibly more hackable than the Pre's none at all.
Apr 13 18:49:58 <Hendikins> Are the HP slabs getting one? I hadn't taken any notice.
Apr 13 18:50:49 <SineOt> Yeah, it's been activated through a custom kernel. Just seems dumb as hell to include it, ship it, and then disable it in software. It's wired up, and it even comes with a little plastic fake card that warns you not to use the slot.
Apr 13 18:51:07 <SineOt> And I think the HP Slate has one but I don't think the TouchPad will.
Apr 13 18:51:28 <SineOt> To be entirely honest I don't really care one way or the other because the storage built in on the device has been more than enough for what I've needed.
Apr 13 19:04:46 <Muhb> Anyone know how to get rid of ghost apps with the moon icon that appear in the list of installed applications in the App Catalog?
Apr 13 19:05:13 <SineOt> Are they stuck updating and never actually update?
Apr 13 19:05:31 <Muhb> No, it's just sitting there, like it's still installed, when it isn't
Apr 13 19:08:38 <Muhb> It doesn't appear as installed in Preware, and I just went through and removed every reference and empty directory in /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/, /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg/info/, and removed a few remaining references to it in /var/palm/jail/ with 'jailer -D -i' but it's still there.
Apr 13 19:08:48 <Muhb> maybe I should try rebooting
Apr 13 19:09:11 <SineOt> Worth a shot
Apr 13 19:13:28 <Muhb> Okay, I feel silly, yup, it's gone now, haha
Apr 13 19:25:27 <dawm> front end of the car is in the air.. pondering if i should do some more work to it.. already did a bunch at the rear of the car..
Apr 13 19:29:24 <SineOt> dawm: install an otter
Apr 13 19:40:13 <sugardave> wow, I decided to play video games first today instead of looking at things online...leakers piss me off
Apr 13 19:40:55 <halfhalo> ?
Apr 13 19:41:17 <NuttyBunny> wasn't the leak yesterday?
Apr 13 19:41:35 <SineOt> Yeah
Apr 13 19:41:51 <NuttyBunny> I just read leak and piss in the same phrase... made me smile.. :)
Apr 13 19:42:09 <RagingMind> SineOt, I blame you for all the reading I've been doing about monotremes
Apr 13 19:42:36 <sugardave> yesterday?  man, I really need to pay better attention
Apr 13 19:42:52 <summatusmentis> yeah, yesterday afternoon, I think
Apr 13 19:42:57 <SineOt> Leaks happen, live moves on! The only things that never leak are things that no one cares about! :I
Apr 13 19:43:46 <sugardave> yes, but the last time we got punished...and I know they're saying nothing like that will happen this time, but there is also the concept of "secret retribution"...all in all, it still pisses me off
Apr 13 19:44:04 <SineOt> The last time was a kneejerk reaction to say the least
Apr 13 19:44:41 <NuttyBunny> Of course it pisses all off... I haven't had time to read the dev forums for HP's reaction, but last time it was pretty upsetting for them :S
Apr 13 19:44:56 <SineOt> I dunno, I don't really care. c_c
Apr 13 19:45:09 <NuttyBunny>  (yeah, I'm talking to you Chuqi) ;)  hehehe
Apr 13 19:45:17 <SineOt> There's better things in this world to get pissed off about!
Apr 13 19:45:32 <baneener> :3
Apr 13 19:45:37 <summatusmentis> it's one of those things that potentially affects things for other developers
Apr 13 19:45:37 <sugardave> oh, I'm plenty pissed about other things
Apr 13 19:46:21 <summatusmentis> so, while I agree, leaks happen, it means that at some point in the future, HP/Palm may decide the leaks aren't worth it, and drastically change they way they do things
Apr 13 19:46:23 <NuttyBunny> Yeap, there are leakers in the forum, and until Palm starts watermarking doctors and sdk's, it will be always the same, the "anonymous" leaks things, Precentral is "cool", and HPapm gets mad
Apr 13 19:46:29 <NuttyBunny> (HPalm)
Apr 13 19:46:54 <SineOt> I really think that Apple has probably had the best response to leaks of any major company... They just don't really do anything
Apr 13 19:47:36 <sugardave> that's great, but obviously not what we can count on from HPalm when looking at past performance
Apr 13 19:47:52 <sugardave> no matter what they say in front of potential leakers
Apr 13 19:48:43 <SineOt> I don't know, because realistically, how many leaks have there been that have had a response from Palm? One?
Apr 13 19:49:27 <sugardave> public response?  one...internally?  who knows?
Apr 13 19:49:58 <summatusmentis> they don't really do anything? Apple sent the cyber police to a Gizmodo editors house over a leak (and stolen property, to be fair)
Apr 13 19:50:06 <sugardave> we might have had 3.0 beta 2 by now, or maybe 2.x could have been removed from NDA earlier
Apr 13 19:50:09 <sugardave> the world may never know
Apr 13 19:50:11 <SineOt> they've stated that the public response to the last one was way over the line
Apr 13 19:50:29 <sugardave> SineOt: yes, and torture is bad
Apr 13 19:50:48 <sugardave> but you bet your ass the US government is still going to torture people
Apr 13 19:51:14 <SineOt> summatusmentis: the iPhone 4 thing was kind of the exception to the rule because it was was purchasing of stolen property and a fully working device in the hands of some journalists Apple hasn't liked for a while
Apr 13 19:52:02 <summatusmentis> SineOt: granted, it's a different scenario, but still a leak
Apr 13 19:52:05 <SineOt> (and Gizmodo baited the hell out of Apple to get that response)
Apr 13 19:53:25 <SineOt> the first response from Apple was a letter that said basically "please give it back" and Gizmodo, in their infinite wisdom, said they wouldn't unless Apple admitted it was theirs in writing and that it was an internal prototype
Apr 13 19:53:41 <SineOt> a letter that they then posted on the site going "HEY LOOK GUYS SEE WE WERE RIGHT IT'S LEGIT!!!"
Apr 13 19:54:35 <SineOt> So yeah, I'm not too surprised that Apple bit down on them and bit down hard :p
Apr 13 19:55:51 <SineOt> I think the better examples of leaks would be stuff like the iPod touch 3G with Camera leak, the iPad leak, the leak of materials for the iPod Nano 4G/5G refreshes, etc
Apr 13 19:56:09 <SineOt> or any of the iOS leaks
Apr 13 19:56:25 <summatusmentis> alright, fair enough
Apr 13 19:57:06 <SineOt> all those leaks never really get a response, the iPhone 4 got one because Gizmodo kept taunting Apple and ended up getting what they deserved
Apr 13 19:57:18 <SineOt> Gizmodo is hilariously unprofessional
Apr 13 19:59:42 <NuttyBunny> Monotremes - Cool :)
Apr 13 20:08:40 <dawm> sometimes i hate this hp monitor
Apr 13 20:09:08 <NuttyBunny> would you love it if it was Palm branded? ;)
Apr 13 20:09:19 <dawm> no it takes forever to turn on
Apr 13 20:10:05 <NuttyBunny> oh.. you need another one :P
Apr 13 20:13:13 <cwayne> dawm: just never turn it off
Apr 13 20:34:29 <zinge> Anybody played around with the voicedial commands or have any documentation? Are there any other commands than "dial xxx-xxx-xxx" and "call john smith phone"?
Apr 13 20:34:38 <zinge> So far "call voicemail" seems to work as well.
Apr 13 20:38:36 <NuttyBunny> zinge: nope :(
Apr 13 20:38:53 <zinge> Oh well. I figured maybe there'd be a list somewhere.
Apr 13 20:49:30 <RagingMind> zinge, in the initial startup/intro thing it says what company provided the software, maybe google that?
Apr 13 20:50:59 <RagingMind> hmm... there doesn't seem to be a way to get back to that
Apr 13 20:51:32 <zinge> Voice dial tutorial maybe?
Apr 13 20:51:41 <zinge> Say "help" on the voicedial screen
Apr 13 20:52:28 <NuttyBunny> nuance
Apr 13 20:53:49 <zinge> Huh. Same company that does (or bought out) dragon naturallyspeaking
Apr 13 20:58:09 <zinge> Looks like they do kinda generic stuff though, so the specific commands would be built in to the app. Time to hack at the app and see if I can find some commands anywhere...
Apr 13 21:11:11 <RagingMind> zinge, I didn't find anything in the text or config files, probably built into the binary
Apr 13 21:11:35 <zinge> Oh well. Thanks for looking!
Apr 13 21:11:57 <zinge> If someone is bored, they could try yelling different commands at it for awhile. :-) I'm off to work.
Apr 13 21:12:07 <SineOt> oooh, what's up?
Apr 13 21:13:18 <dawm> fuck me.. i should have done that another day.. oh well its all back in now, just gotta torque em bolts
Apr 13 21:13:46 <zinge> SineOt: asking us? Nothing too exciting, just wondering if there are any other voicedial commands other than "help" "dial xxx" and "call person" and "call voicemail"
Apr 13 21:14:32 <SineOt> Oh, yeah. I don't know if there are, and to be entirely honest, it's pretty borked even with just those
Apr 13 21:15:18 <zinge> True. I'm pining for my old Sprint phones with voice command :-). But at least I can call people from a headset without having to type things in the phone now (when it works)
Apr 13 21:15:44 <zinge> Gotta run, work in 15m.
Apr 13 21:15:49 <SineOt> later
Apr 13 21:16:14 <RagingMind> the voice dialing of my RAZR was better... no matter what I tell my phone it tries calling the sick line for my last job
Apr 13 21:18:00 <NuttyBunny> weird, mine works beautifully in spanish... my english pronunciation of spanish words it's a bit flakey, so it doesn't work as well in english for me ;)
Apr 13 21:18:16 <NuttyBunny> That's why I'm looking for a way to set a locale for each app or library :)
Apr 13 21:21:02 <SineOt> I've used it a bit, and it seems to work okay. It's nothing I'd call working really well though!
Apr 13 21:26:27 <Loudergood> hmm...xterm just locked up on me
Apr 13 22:03:49 * Tibfib is a happy lad
Apr 13 22:04:11 <Tibfib> http://twitter.com/webOSdev/status/58288152439291904
Apr 13 22:04:43 <dohtem> he's breaking the NDA!
Apr 13 22:05:06 <Loudergood> good, I was going to get me some of that earlier, saw that he was cooking and decided to wait for the new batch
Apr 13 22:05:23 <SineOt> I wonder if it has extra chocolate chips in it
Apr 13 22:05:28 * Tibfib likes cookies
Apr 13 22:05:33 <Loudergood> chuqui's brownies are always delicious
Apr 13 22:05:51 <dohtem> as are his oatmeal raisin cookies
Apr 13 22:05:57 <baneener> i'm eating some toasted chips ahou
Apr 13 22:06:05 <SineOt> the most delicious brownies… are special brownies ;_;
Apr 13 22:07:36 * dohtem hearts DownloadThemAll! for Firefox
Apr 13 22:08:01 <dawm_> sooo tired
Apr 13 22:09:27 <SineOt> dawm_: did I ask you about custom stickers in the past? I can't remember
Apr 13 22:09:43 <dawm_> possibly but you never followed thru :P
Apr 13 22:12:13 <dawm_> http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208167_1870504596206_1048858191_2210970_191299_n.jpg
Apr 13 22:12:17 <dawm_> :P
Apr 13 22:17:05 <SineOt> Probably because I forgot :C
Apr 13 22:17:21 <SineOt> lot of stuff going on that has had me pretty pissed >:C
Apr 13 22:20:21 <HattCzech_work> why is that wrx on ramps backwards?
Apr 13 22:20:35 <dawm_> it doesnt say wrx anywhere on that car
Apr 13 22:20:39 <dawm_> :P
Apr 13 22:20:45 <dawm_> i was doing some rear bushings
Apr 13 22:21:00 <HattCzech_work> does it say sti anywhere on that car?
Apr 13 22:21:07 <dawm_> yep.. all over
Apr 13 22:21:15 <HattCzech_work> ok :)
Apr 13 22:21:31 <dawm_> 3 times on the front, once on the front doors (both sides) and once on the trunk
Apr 13 22:22:55 <dohtem> no more neon?
Apr 13 22:23:18 <dawm_> its still in the garage
Apr 13 22:23:19 <dawm_> http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/215289_1870504396201_1048858191_2210969_3117550_n.jpg
Apr 13 22:23:23 <dawm_> you can see it to the left
Apr 13 22:26:08 <HattCzech_work> the only thing i didn't care for on the sti was the rear wing
Apr 13 22:26:30 <dawm_> atleast its functional
Apr 13 22:26:47 <dawm_> in the rain, my window vane directs air right at the spoiler which directs it right at the car tailgating me
Apr 13 22:27:38 <dawm_> i have to get some stiffeners for it tho, it wobbles at highway speeds
Apr 13 22:27:54 <dawm_> rather it flexes
Apr 13 22:37:24 <dohtem> what year is the sti?
Apr 13 22:37:47 <dawm_> 06
Apr 13 22:38:11 <dawm_> a black 07 popped up forsale recently with 10k more miles and their asking 4k more than i paid for mine
Apr 13 22:38:22 <dawm_> i got mine for 19500 w/ 65k miles
Apr 13 22:39:29 <dawm_> woot
Apr 13 22:39:32 <dohtem> not bad
Apr 13 22:39:36 <dawm_> electric bill was only $20.36 this month
Apr 13 22:40:05 <dawm_> i cant wait for it to stay warm like this.. gas bill will go down to almost nothing ;D
Apr 13 22:40:25 <dohtem> heh, in NorCal they are installing "smart meters" that's doubling our power bills
Apr 13 22:40:41 <dawm_> nice
Apr 13 22:40:54 <dohtem> not!
Apr 13 22:41:11 <SineOt> PG&E, isn't it? Aren't they basically evil in corporation form
Apr 13 22:41:37 <summatusmentis> how is it doubling your power bill? does the meter pull that much?
Apr 13 22:41:55 <dawm_> either that or the meters were way off before
Apr 13 22:42:22 <dawm_> my electric company physically comes out and checks my meter
Apr 13 22:42:25 <dawm_> every month
Apr 13 22:42:34 <baneener> STi isn't a pretty bad car at all
Apr 13 22:42:35 <summatusmentis> every month? that's drastic
Apr 13 22:42:46 <dohtem> yeah, they are claiming the old meters were actually incorrect
Apr 13 22:42:57 <baneener> i sold my '92 camry for 8k with 210k miles
Apr 13 22:43:19 <dawm_> the first 3 months i lived here i didnt have an electric bill, because they dont send a bill if its less than $30. i opted out of that program.. i want my bill even if its $5
Apr 13 22:43:42 <dawm_> and like 1/3rd of my usage is from my ancient furnance
Apr 13 22:43:55 <dawm_> once thats not being used its gonna be cheeep
Apr 13 22:44:04 <dohtem> it doesnt even snow here and I'm hitting $60+
Apr 13 22:44:10 <dohtem> just me
Apr 13 22:44:15 <dawm_> i think its 64 here right now
Apr 13 22:44:40 <dawm_> my desktop is always on along with the tv and wifi router/modem
Apr 13 22:44:50 <dawm_> other than that not much else when im not here
Apr 13 22:45:17 <dawm_> and i work like 11hrs (4days a week)
Apr 13 22:47:21 <Tibfib> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvqzXR0JkuY
Apr 13 22:47:32 <Tibfib> that's the precentral webOS 3.0 leak video
Apr 13 22:50:44 <rwhitby> gone, baby, gone.
Apr 13 22:53:10 <Tibfib> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=12745&p=64387#p64387
Apr 13 22:53:13 <Tibfib> look a puppy!
Apr 13 22:53:33 <Tibfib> might be a bad link.
Apr 13 22:58:39 <NuttyBunny> Ok, like we mexicans would say: "A huevo HP!"
Apr 13 23:06:19 <baneener> so two men walk into a bar and scream OW
Apr 14 00:03:46 <donc> Do apps submitted to the Catalog go from "Ready for Review" to "Published" or is there some intermediate status?
Apr 14 00:09:58 <rwhitby> lemketron: ping
Apr 14 00:14:49 <haeffb> donc: I don't think there's an intermediate status
Apr 14 00:15:52 <donc> haeffb: OK that's good news I guess, hoping it's in a queue.
Apr 14 00:16:38 <haeffb> what ya submtting?
Apr 14 00:21:18 <donc> haeffb: app for our upcoming conference
Apr 14 00:23:13 <madnificent> hello haeffb :)  Thanks for the advice on the filterlist
Apr 14 00:23:42 * madnificent waits for his pre to boot to find out what he should do next
Apr 14 00:24:15 <haeffb> hey, madnificent!
Apr 14 00:25:20 <madnificent> https://github.com/hanshuebner/midivent might be interesting for Node.js users which want midi audio
Apr 14 00:25:32 <madnificent> (the dev's can generally be trusted)
Apr 14 00:26:58 <madnificent> how are you haeffb ?
Apr 14 00:27:13 <haeffb> good.
Apr 14 00:27:33 <haeffb> still up in the air, waiting for some clear direction on where things are going
Apr 14 00:27:52 <NuttyBunny> hey haeffb!
Apr 14 00:27:58 <haeffb> sorry, NuttyBunny
Apr 14 00:28:03 <haeffb> still not shipped
Apr 14 00:28:27 <madnificent> haeffb: 'things'
Apr 14 00:28:37 <NuttyBunny> no problem, there's no rush :)
Apr 14 00:29:07 <haeffb> madnificent: my office may be closing
Apr 14 00:29:20 <haeffb> s/may/likely will be
Apr 14 00:29:40 <haeffb> and consolidated with another office an hour away
Apr 14 00:30:17 <haeffb> so I will have to decide if I want to accept a position (which may or may not be the same job as I do now) there, or to go somewhere else
Apr 14 00:31:03 <haeffb> but nothing definite for another week or two
Apr 14 00:35:08 <cwayne1> anyone ever have two webviews in one scene
Apr 14 00:36:33 * DougReeder waves hello
Apr 14 00:37:13 <haeffb> hi DougReeder
Apr 14 00:37:46 <DougReeder> Sorry to parachute, was looking for Rod Whitby.
Apr 14 00:48:51 <tommyfenyx> Hola
Apr 14 00:48:55 <tommyfenyx> Hi
Apr 14 00:49:08 <SineOt> Hi.
Apr 14 00:49:14 <dohtem> Hola
Apr 14 00:49:29 <tommyfenyx> anyone knows about the video of webosinternals?
Apr 14 00:50:12 <tommyfenyx> youtube says that doesn't respect youtube policy...
Apr 14 00:50:13 <SineOt> Uh, I dunno. Which?
Apr 14 00:50:35 <SineOt> it was precentral's video
Apr 14 00:50:38 <SineOt> of the 3.0 leak
Apr 14 00:50:51 <tommyfenyx> http://www.webosmania.com/webos/webos-para-el-touchpad-en-video/
Apr 14 00:51:07 <tommyfenyx> I suppose
Apr 14 00:51:10 <tommyfenyx> '
Apr 14 00:52:09 <SineOt> yup
Apr 14 00:52:14 <rwhitby> tommyfenyx: HP/Palm got it removed, cause PreCentral illegally installed the leaked SDK
Apr 14 00:52:51 <tommyfenyx> ... yikes...
Apr 14 00:53:14 <madnificent> rightfully, I guess
Apr 14 00:53:24 <tommyfenyx> Now I'm gonna die about this video
Apr 14 00:53:25 <tommyfenyx> XD
Apr 14 00:53:26 <tommyfenyx> :D
Apr 14 00:56:25 <tommyfenyx> Our friends of webosinternals are going to make something that HP/Palm should do
Apr 14 00:56:35 <tommyfenyx> pero bueno
Apr 14 00:56:48 <tommyfenyx> esperemos que HP se porte bien con nosotros
Apr 14 00:57:02 <tommyfenyx> :)
Apr 14 01:03:34 <dohtem> http://mocktheafflicted.com/ -- heh
Apr 14 01:52:02 <cwayne> hrey
Apr 14 02:12:31 <cwayne> anyone tried to have multiple webviews in once scene?
Apr 14 02:23:58 <SineOt> Anyone know much about building SDL apps? http://www.zincland.com/powder/ :p
Apr 14 02:34:58 <halfhalo> ZUUUUUNE means I get to go on a buying spree without spending any money!
Apr 14 02:36:16 <halfhalo> and its talking nice to doubletwist for the pre!
Apr 14 02:37:29 <Tibfib> halfhalo: oh really, it can sync to pre?
Apr 14 02:37:45 <halfhalo> with doubletwist and undrmed songs yet
Apr 14 02:37:53 <Tibfib> ah, are most drm, or what?
Apr 14 02:38:03 * PatrickC_Pre2 waves hi
Apr 14 02:38:37 <PatrickC_Pre2> I got my package from Hulu today, I'm really hoping to hear back from them saying "Here is the API, have fun"
Apr 14 02:38:52 <halfhalo> Zune pass is drm unless you use the song credits
Apr 14 02:39:01 <SineOt> A package from Hulu?
Apr 14 02:39:18 <halfhalo> but then again... with zune pass you get access to every song they have to listen to on the zune/wp7
Apr 14 02:39:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> then sent me a gift for contacting them
Apr 14 02:39:50 <SineOt> what is it? :p
Apr 14 02:40:24 <PatrickC_Pre2> a nice zip-up hoodie, a shirt, a water bottle, a hand written note, and a few small things
Apr 14 02:41:15 <PatrickC_Pre2> I'm gonna email Netflix about on-device streaming
Apr 14 02:42:01 <SineOt> too bad it's Hulu :C
Apr 14 02:42:22 <PatrickC_Pre2> why? lol
Apr 14 02:52:24 <PatrickC_Pre2> the video on PC was removed from youtube about the 3.0 SDK leak
Apr 14 02:56:50 <halfhalo> we know
Apr 14 02:57:14 <Tibfib> that's so 4 hours ago
Apr 14 02:57:32 <PatrickC_Pre2> ah ok, I just now saw that
Apr 14 02:57:37 <PatrickC_Pre2> didn't know when it happened
Apr 14 02:57:46 <funkatron> herb ferb
Apr 14 02:57:48 <CTLAdvance> Yeah, probably was happening as soon as palm found out
Apr 14 02:58:01 <PatrickC_Pre2> halfhalo: how's the pup?
Apr 14 02:58:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> hay nuttybunny
Apr 14 02:58:08 <halfhalo> murderous
Apr 14 02:58:19 <NuttyBunny> hey again :)
Apr 14 02:58:35 <PatrickC_Pre2> phones done rebooting? :)
Apr 14 02:59:05 <NuttyBunny> a while ago.. hehehe
Apr 14 02:59:09 <PatrickC_Pre2> lol
Apr 14 02:59:24 <PatrickC_Pre2> I was thinking that took a little long :p
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