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Apr 24 03:02:04 <NuttyBunny> Ah, really? webos 2 for pixi? I don't believe him just for his nick
Apr 24 03:02:22 * rwhitby loves how some people think that carrier support staff have any advance information about product release plans :)
Apr 24 03:02:23 <PatrickC_Pre2> yeah.. I'm having a hard time believing it too...
Apr 24 03:03:00 <PatrickC_Pre2> and why would they release it now, veer/pre3/webOS 3.0 are just around the corner
Apr 24 03:04:14 <NuttyBunny> to tease people with Pixis perhaps, maybe they made a late deal for the Veer and are trying to keep webOS customers
Apr 24 03:04:38 <PatrickC_Pre2> the veer is GSM only afaik.. isn't it?
Apr 24 03:05:01 <Loudergood> aye
Apr 24 03:05:01 <rwhitby> or perhaps the guy reading from the support script in some other country, and trained to say whatever is necessary to keep a customer on the hook, has no clue about the release plans.
Apr 24 03:05:25 <PatrickC_Pre2> ^^ lol, probably true..
Apr 24 03:05:35 <rwhitby> not probably
Apr 24 03:06:30 <Loudergood> it's like the NDA I signed when I worked for IBM...I didn't have a clue about anything, how could I leak it even accidentally
Apr 24 03:06:40 <PatrickC_Pre2> well, probably has no clue about Release plans
Apr 24 03:08:42 <NuttyBunny> we'll see after "May 2"
Apr 24 03:09:31 <NuttyBunny> Now we need firefox sync in Universe and it all will be happiness
Apr 24 03:09:46 <Loudergood> that's when webos 2.1 is going to be released to telcel pixis
Apr 24 03:10:01 <Loudergood> and NuttyBunny I definitely agree with you there
Apr 24 03:10:15 <NuttyBunny> Telcel doesn't even have Pixis :) LOL
Apr 24 03:10:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> FF Sync would be awesome
Apr 24 03:10:36 <PatrickC_Pre2> no, it'll be released to Telcel Pre2s
Apr 24 03:10:37 <Loudergood> even better
Apr 24 03:10:47 <NuttyBunny> LOL
Apr 24 03:10:48 <Loudergood> no, those will run 1.4.5
Apr 24 03:11:10 <NuttyBunny> no, in Telcel everything runs 1.4.0, no paid apps :P
Apr 24 03:11:16 <PatrickC_Pre2> :'(
Apr 24 03:12:17 <PatrickC_Pre2> zacky59 needs to read what people say..
Apr 24 03:12:49 <NuttyBunny> zacky59 needs to be ignored, as I decided to do <period>
Apr 24 03:13:33 <NuttyBunny> My last PM to him was just a "You were warned"
Apr 24 03:13:44 <PatrickC_Pre2> about what? lol
Apr 24 03:14:43 <NuttyBunny> about stop asking just about everything when this and when that and i want and everything... grrr  guy got to my nerves
Apr 24 03:14:59 <dkirker> NuttyBunny: FF sync and full Google Bookmark sync is planned :D
Apr 24 03:15:08 <PatrickC_Pre2> he gets to everyone's nerves..
Apr 24 03:15:21 <NuttyBunny> dkirker: Really??! Cool!!!
Apr 24 03:15:25 <PatrickC_Pre2> dkirker: need a beta team to make sure it works? <winks>
Apr 24 03:15:26 * NuttyBunny buys Universe
Apr 24 03:15:37 <NuttyBunny> he already has a beta team :P
Apr 24 03:16:02 <PatrickC_Pre2> I'm a part of the beta team :) I meant, need to beta it :)
Apr 24 03:16:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> s/need/does he need people/
Apr 24 03:17:02 <dkirker> we'll see. I have *just* released 1.0. I need to figure out what to even do for the next release.
Apr 24 03:17:32 <NuttyBunny> I'm part of it  too :P  but still I just bought the 1.0 version :D
Apr 24 03:17:48 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok, I'll be looking :) btw, how much is it (the app cat won't let me see, as I have the beta downloaded)
Apr 24 03:17:53 * NuttyBunny votes for FF sync ;)
Apr 24 03:18:21 <Loudergood> haha I hear you there
Apr 24 03:19:22 <NuttyBunny> Hey! Why can't I commit my review??? :(
Apr 24 03:19:52 <PatrickC_Pre2> how much is it? $1.99?
Apr 24 03:19:53 <NuttyBunny> Patrick: Weird, even with the beta mine shows $30 (pesos), I suppose $3 USD
Apr 24 03:20:22 <PatrickC_Pre2> k thx
Apr 24 03:23:08 <dkirker> $2.99 USD
Apr 24 03:23:29 * NuttyBunny grumbles at the app cat... Could not commit review... argh.. and it won't even let me copy it...
Apr 24 03:23:33 <dkirker> I need to set up a bug tracker! :o
Apr 24 03:23:41 <dkirker> NuttyBunny: Adora!! :(
Apr 24 03:24:09 <NuttyBunny> Well, you have 0 reviews, so I really don't think I'm the only one ;)
Apr 24 03:24:13 <dkirker> why is my Pre2 using GPRS? I can get EDGE...
Apr 24 03:24:26 <NuttyBunny> GPRS? stone age? ;)
Apr 24 03:24:33 <dkirker> Yeah. T-Mobile :/
Apr 24 03:24:46 * PatrickC_Pre2 hasn't activated his pre2 yet..
Apr 24 03:24:49 <dkirker> I don't want to pay AT&T $20 for 200MB of data just so that I can use 3G...
Apr 24 03:25:03 <dkirker> and f-ing Verizon...
Apr 24 03:25:07 <dkirker> I want to get a Pre2
Apr 24 03:25:19 <halfhalo> lulz
Apr 24 03:25:19 <NuttyBunny> you may be able to migrate to 3G once they get together (T-mobile and AT&T)
Apr 24 03:25:23 <dkirker> So, I walk in and ask if I can pay the 2 year price and extend my contract
Apr 24 03:25:24 <dkirker> NO
Apr 24 03:25:35 <dkirker> I have to wait until my damn contract expires to get the 2 year price
Apr 24 03:25:49 <dkirker> I am just going to get it at work
Apr 24 03:25:57 <dkirker> and f them when my contract is up
Apr 24 03:26:15 <dkirker> urg!!!!
Apr 24 03:26:16 <dkirker> </rant>
Apr 24 03:26:21 <dkirker> ok.... :D
Apr 24 03:26:26 <PatrickC_Pre2> lol
Apr 24 03:26:32 <dkirker> It's just sad
Apr 24 03:26:42 <dkirker> they used to treat the customers well, and now this. :'(
Apr 24 03:26:42 <PatrickC_Pre2>  /smack zacky59
Apr 24 03:26:48 <NuttyBunny> Argh... those 2 year contracts that you have are killer ones... we have only 12 or 18 month contracts... of course, the prices are sky high over here... I had to pay for the original Pre about $450USD, with a 1 year contract, $50 per month
Apr 24 03:26:55 <halfhalo> who, att?
Apr 24 03:26:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> who used to treat customers well? T-Mobile?
Apr 24 03:28:38 <PatrickC_Pre2> why are June Bugs out now :/ its April lol
Apr 24 03:28:46 <halfhalo> heh... bugs....
Apr 24 03:29:12 <PatrickC_Pre2> what NOV number is that one?
Apr 24 03:30:21 <dkirker> heh
Apr 24 03:30:32 <halfhalo> NOV-movetoca
Apr 24 03:36:39 <dkirker> good idea!
Apr 24 03:37:32 <dkirker> PatrickC_Pre2: On Verizon you used to get $100 towards a new phone every 2 years (that's $100 off the 2 year price), and could get the 2 year price whenever you wanted to extend your contract.
Apr 24 03:37:41 <dkirker> Now you have to wait until your contract is up.
Apr 24 03:38:46 <Loudergood> yeah didn't they kill that right before the iphone came out?
Apr 24 03:42:45 <PatrickC_Pre2> that is stupid..
Apr 24 03:43:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> dkirker: is the show/hide bug for 2.x fixed in 1.0?
Apr 24 03:43:40 <dkirker> no
Apr 24 03:43:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok
Apr 24 03:54:03 <PatrickC_Pre2> http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee477/patrickc14/1303608333027-7730.jpg
Apr 24 03:54:04 <PatrickC_Pre2> ^^ hehe
Apr 24 03:56:25 <PatrickC_Pre2> I'm off to bed. night
Apr 24 11:47:09 <SethR> Dumb question - can C++ PDK apps be run in the Virtual box emulator?  Mine installs, but the click to run it seems to .. not do anything.  Runs fine on real phone.
Apr 24 11:49:37 <haeffb> I'm not a PDK guy, but I think you have to compile for a different processor to run in emu. If you can at all.
Apr 24 11:52:14 <SethR> Ah.  The app does work in "emu mode" straight from Visual C++ (like you said, compiled for x86/win) - but that has no OS stuff (like, cards, etc..)
Apr 24 11:52:48 <SethR> But if PDK is a no go on the Virtual box, I'll stop wasting my time trying :)
Apr 24 11:56:19 <SethR> Yeah, impossible:  https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=12416
Apr 24 11:56:23 <rwhitby> SethR: PDK allows you to compile for device or emulator
Apr 24 11:56:59 <rwhitby> but you have to do it, it's not done automatically.
Apr 24 11:58:00 <rwhitby> actually, I tell a lie. the PDK allows you to compile for the *host* machine, not the emulator.
Apr 24 11:58:11 <rwhitby> e.g. for windows or mac, not for the emulator.
Apr 24 11:58:13 <SethR> Right - I have it running on the emulator, but not in virtualbox
Apr 24 11:58:30 <SethR> or rather, I have it running emulated.. yeah, confusing terminology :)
Apr 24 11:59:08 <rwhitby> device is arm code, emulator is x86 code
Apr 24 12:00:15 <stbuehler> it should be possible to compile for emu though
Apr 24 12:00:20 <haeffb> rwhitby: did you get your layout fixed?
Apr 24 12:00:25 <stbuehler> you just need the libs from the device to link against
Apr 24 12:00:31 <stbuehler> headers might just work
Apr 24 12:00:51 <SethR> right.  I guess my question is, can we trick the virtualbox emu into install a x86 version of a package.. never heard of anyone doing that though, only running the win32 version directly
Apr 24 12:00:56 <stbuehler> libs from the emulated device ofc
Apr 24 12:01:22 <stbuehler> and you need a compiler for x86 linux :)
Apr 24 12:01:31 <SethR> my app's device (arm) version works great on the device, I'm just wondering if I can see it on a playbook via emulator
Apr 24 12:01:34 <stbuehler> so basically a linux system would be useful
Apr 24 12:03:05 <SethR> random question: will the playback be able to run Palm Pre apps?  (using screen doubling or something)
Apr 24 12:03:10 <SethR> *er, playbook
Apr 24 12:03:26 <haeffb> rwhitby: if not, I would suggest using css flex box
Apr 24 12:03:36 <rwhitby> haeffb: I changed the app so I didn't have to show the values any more.
Apr 24 12:03:45 <haeffb> ah. Simpler solution.
Apr 24 12:04:35 <haeffb> "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "So don't do this."
Apr 24 12:04:45 <Spanska> Is there a special place for Synergy services logs? I cannot seem to use "log" to see them
Apr 24 12:05:04 <rwhitby> haeffb: I took a lot of stuff out of the Activation scene before releasing the latest Impostah
Apr 24 12:18:01 * rwhitby bbt
Apr 24 12:37:37 <SethR> hmm, to answer my own question:  "most current WebOS apps will work on the TouchPad"
Apr 24 12:49:48 <phoque_uni> does anybody know what the touchpad's shell will be like?
Apr 24 12:50:12 <phoque_uni> the first devices at that HP event a few months ago looked like the first-generation Palm Pre
Apr 24 12:50:17 <phoque_uni> glossy, cheap plastic
Apr 24 12:50:40 <phoque_uni> I'm hoping more for a Pre2/Pre3-look: Glass and rubber
Apr 24 12:52:08 <phoque_uni> I'm wondering since journalists were not allowed to take photos of the back of the device
Apr 24 13:08:11 <PatrickC_Pre2> dkirker: contracts on the reviews in the catalog (one looked to be from Adora :) )
Apr 24 13:08:25 <PatrickC_Pre2> congrats*
Apr 24 14:11:24 <stbuehler> hm, looks like there are no opengl libs on the emu
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 24 15:41:06 2011

**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 24 15:44:14 2011
Apr 24 15:47:27 <avarus> oi
Apr 24 18:01:14 <PatrickC_Pre2> Happy Easter all
Apr 24 18:01:38 <hotdp> you too PatrickC
Apr 24 18:02:16 <PatrickC_Pre2> thanks
Apr 24 18:02:54 <PatrickC_Pre2> PSN is still down?? not good..
Apr 24 18:06:02 <PatrickC_Pre2> dkirker: is Universe open source?
Apr 24 18:11:59 <PatrickC_Pre2> nm, google answered my question :)
Apr 24 18:48:00 <Guest92980> Why aren't there more good free apps in the catalog? Seems like everything has a fee. Even a web browser.
Apr 24 18:48:54 <Doc_Lee> TuneIn is free
Apr 24 18:50:04 <Guest92980> Even the terrible apps that no one wants has a price.
Apr 24 18:51:02 <Doc_Lee> Guest92980, You're more than welcome to develop your own free applications and release them
Apr 24 18:51:44 <Guest92980> Nah
Apr 24 18:51:56 <Guest92980> Barely any webos users left right now
Apr 24 18:52:12 <Doc_Lee> Guest92980, That's not necessarily true
Apr 24 18:52:20 <Doc_Lee> We have 24,000 daily users for our app
Apr 24 18:53:12 <Guest92980> Is 24k a lot?
Apr 24 18:53:20 <Doc_Lee> It's a lot for any app
Apr 24 18:53:25 <Doc_Lee> On any platform
Apr 24 18:53:31 <Guest92980> What app is that
Apr 24 18:53:36 <Doc_Lee> TuneIn Radio
Apr 24 18:53:47 <Guest92980> Figured it was a radio app
Apr 24 18:55:04 <Doc_Lee> The Iphone version of the app has 60k users a day
Apr 24 18:55:40 <Doc_Lee> So, if you look at the number of Iphone devices versus WebOS devices sold, the numbers are actually better on WebOS than on Iphone
Apr 24 18:56:13 <Doc_Lee> Furthermore, because there are few good free applications out there, there's more exposure on WebOS for good free applications.
Apr 24 18:56:17 <Doc_Lee> So, why not develop?
Apr 24 18:56:44 <Guest92980> That app is free right
Apr 24 18:56:51 <Doc_Lee> Yes
Apr 24 19:03:15 <Spanska> Mine will be free too ;)
Apr 24 19:03:42 <Spanska> At least, the Holiday Dates one.. I am not sure for the next ones but if they are not too much work, they might be too
Apr 24 19:11:21 <PatrickC_Pre2> most free apps are also open source
Apr 24 19:12:29 <PatrickC_Pre2> s/free/paid/
Apr 24 19:13:30 <codeslaw> oledo
Apr 24 19:13:55 <codeslaw> what it is
Apr 24 19:14:04 <PatrickC_Pre2> it is Easter :)
Apr 24 19:14:11 <codeslaw> happy that
Apr 24 19:14:32 <codeslaw> anyone in the early access program want to have a quick private chat with me? have a couple of ??s
Apr 24 19:15:29 <PatrickC_Pre2> why don't you ask them on the forum?
Apr 24 19:16:33 <codeslaw> meh
Apr 24 19:20:22 <PatrickC_Pre2> brb
Apr 24 19:24:19 <Doc_Lee> Because the forum is incredibly slow to respond
Apr 24 19:26:14 <cwayne> lolwut
Apr 24 19:33:05 <HattCzech> anyone know where the db is that stored text messages in webos 2.1?
Apr 24 19:36:08 <PatrickC_Pre2> I dont
Apr 24 19:37:26 <HattCzech> well dang
Apr 24 19:37:46 <HattCzech> i don't remember what i need to get putty working on the phone
Apr 24 19:37:55 <HattCzech> (get putty working to connect to the phone)
Apr 24 19:40:23 <cwayne> HAY PatrickC_Pre2
Apr 24 19:44:11 <Bobert_hohn> Okay, okay, I have some questions.
Apr 24 19:44:14 <Bobert_hohn> Anybody here?
Apr 24 19:45:39 <Bobert_hohn> anybody gonna answer?
Apr 24 19:45:56 <cwayne> lol
Apr 24 19:46:21 <Bobert_hohn> alright, cool
Apr 24 19:47:13 <Bobert_hohn> is it safe to OC the palm pre?
Apr 24 19:47:29 <Bobert_hohn> ive read that it's been OC'd to 1.2GHz, does it go any higher?
Apr 24 19:48:49 <Bobert_hohn> no answers?
Apr 24 19:48:53 <Bobert_hohn> this is fay
Apr 24 19:48:58 <Bobert_hohn> gay* lol
Apr 24 20:12:13 <PatrickC_Pre2> Bobert_hohn: it goes to 1.2GHz and that's it. and its pretty safe, I can always memboot if something goes wrong. the Pre2 will go to 1.4GHz
Apr 24 20:12:18 <PatrickC_Pre2> HAY cwayne!!
Apr 24 20:13:35 <cwayne> PatrickC_Pre2: yo
Apr 24 20:15:10 * cwayne didnt have internet for 4 days and was about to go crazy
Apr 24 20:16:30 <PatrickC_Pre2> why didn't you have internet?
Apr 24 20:18:29 <PatrickC_Pre2> cwayne: you got a pre or a pixi?
Apr 24 20:18:39 <cwayne> PatrickC_Pre2: pre2
Apr 24 20:18:45 <cwayne> i was in tahoe and had no service
Apr 24 20:18:46 <PatrickC_Pre2> ah ok
Apr 24 20:19:21 <PatrickC_Pre2> :/
Apr 24 20:19:23 <PatrickC_Pre2> brb
Apr 24 20:44:57 <rwhitby> PatrickC_Pre2: "most paid apps are also open source" is not a true statement
Apr 24 20:49:20 <cwayne> rwhitby: mine are :)
Apr 24 20:50:25 <rwhitby> cwayne: so are mine
Apr 24 20:55:10 <NuttyBunny> mine will be ;)
Apr 24 22:41:20 <dawm_> YOUR FACE!
Apr 24 22:45:43 <mattsmcnulty> don't you all hate it when family gets in the way of your touchpad usage? who's with me?
Apr 24 22:48:06 <mattsmcnulty> apparently everyone else has a life on a holiday ;-)
Apr 24 22:50:09 <bpadalino> i hate it!
Apr 24 22:50:41 <bpadalino> they all just wanted to pass it around and be in awe of it .. i couldn't get done what i had to do
Apr 24 22:51:02 <bpadalino> mattsmcnulty: hows your zombie jesus day going ?
Apr 24 22:51:17 <mattsmcnulty> good. turned into a nice day here
Apr 24 22:51:18 <dkirker> hi mattsmcnulty!
Apr 24 22:51:27 <mattsmcnulty> hi all. been a while. been busy.
Apr 24 22:51:42 <dawm|laptop> hrm
Apr 24 22:51:46 <bpadalino> good busy or drinking problem busy?
Apr 24 22:51:48 <dawm|laptop> John Kneeland DM'd me on twitter..
Apr 24 22:51:55 <mattsmcnulty> work busy
Apr 24 22:52:05 <mattsmcnulty> as anyone on the early access program can probably attest to
Apr 24 22:52:06 <bpadalino> oh that's a good busy i'd think
Apr 24 22:52:11 <mattsmcnulty> or who have read the leaks and seen the pace of change
Apr 24 22:52:57 <bpadalino> are you happy with the pace and what's been asked of you at work?
Apr 24 22:53:05 <dkirker> busy is an understatement
Apr 24 22:53:05 <dkirker> I might as well live at the office
Apr 24 22:53:12 <mattsmcnulty> agreed
Apr 24 22:53:15 <bpadalino> that can be arranged
Apr 24 22:53:17 <bpadalino> ;)
Apr 24 22:53:21 <ctbeiser1> Not as bad of an idea as it sounds like, really.
Apr 24 22:53:44 <bpadalino> oh it's a terrible idea .. i really find it weird when people brush their teeth in the bathroom
Apr 24 22:54:10 <dkirker> bpadalino: We have a shower at work. :)
Apr 24 22:54:26 <bpadalino> oh that is kind of nice
Apr 24 22:54:31 <bpadalino> we don't at all
Apr 24 22:54:48 <dkirker> I remember some bathrooms in one particular building at school at showers...
Apr 24 22:58:38 <dawm|laptop> how do you respond to a question 'Tell me about your company' in 140 characters?
Apr 24 22:58:43 <dawm|laptop> ;P
Apr 24 22:58:55 <bpadalino> 00111010101
Apr 24 23:08:22 <dawm|laptop> i wonder if carbon can twitlonger a dm
Apr 24 23:20:55 <haeffb> I wonder how someone from the 1800's would have responded to that question.
Apr 24 23:20:59 <haeffb> or even the 1900's
Apr 24 23:21:28 <haeffb> or even 2009
Apr 24 23:22:10 <dawm|laptop> im sure it could, but they dont recommened using it for DMs since its not private.
Apr 24 23:50:27 <Spanska> any ideas how I can completely wipe the emulator image and restore it to factory settings?
Apr 24 23:51:00 <NuttyBunny> delete the image and create another one ;)
Apr 24 23:51:22 <NuttyBunny> Is there a device info app? you could use the reset options, if it exists
Apr 24 23:51:39 <Spanska> it doesn't seem to do anything
Apr 24 23:52:38 <Spanska> it acts like it's going something but it just reboots the emulator
Apr 24 23:54:07 <Spanska> I also tried to repair the SDK installation.. didn't do it either
Apr 24 23:54:09 <NuttyBunny> mmm... yeah, it doesn't seem to do anything :)
Apr 24 23:54:27 <Spanska> I'll just uninstall the SDK and see if that does it
Apr 24 23:54:31 <NuttyBunny> no
Apr 24 23:54:36 <NuttyBunny> it won't do anything :)
Apr 24 23:54:50 <Spanska> well, it should, new files will overwrite the ones I have..
Apr 24 23:55:11 <NuttyBunny> mmm.. nope, because this image you created it with palm-emulator, remember?
Apr 24 23:55:25 <NuttyBunny> the first time you used it, you "created" an emulator image
Apr 24 23:55:32 <Spanska> I just opened the emu with the shortcut in my "Start" menu
Apr 24 23:55:48 <NuttyBunny> aah... mmm... windows...  hehehe
Apr 24 23:55:59 <Spanska> that's interesting though
Apr 24 23:56:48 <NuttyBunny> I think it puts the sdk binaries in the path variable, so you could just open a "cmd" windows and type "palm-emulator"... it should show you a window with several options (2 at least)
Apr 24 23:58:46 <Spanska> yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to create a new image
Apr 25 00:03:23 <dawm|laptop> spnska did you try the device reset?
Apr 25 00:03:31 <dawm|laptop> in the Device Info app?
Apr 25 00:04:58 <NuttyBunny> it did erase the files on my image, I hadn't noticed :D
Apr 25 00:05:59 <Spanska> dawm|laptop: I did, it does nothing
Apr 25 00:06:09 <dawm|laptop> reinstall SDK
Apr 25 00:06:10 <dawm|laptop> or
Apr 25 00:06:14 <Spanska> I keep hitting webOS.. *sigh*
Apr 25 00:06:18 <Spanska> webOS bugs
Apr 25 00:06:21 <dawm|laptop> dig in the SDK for the vbox image
Apr 25 00:07:22 <Spanska> I can see the images and when I "--install" them the zip file is actually copied in AppData\Local\ something.. they both have the same size so I suppose the one in the Palm dir probably also have my apps on it
Apr 25 00:07:32 <Spanska> unless VirtualBox stores them somewhere else..
Apr 25 00:07:37 <Spanska> once they are installed..
Apr 25 00:09:20 <Spanska> I think I got it
Apr 25 00:09:30 <Spanska> it's taking longer to create the images now
Apr 25 00:09:50 <Spanska> it's as simple as opening VirtualBox and erasing the images from there, it seems
Apr 25 00:10:22 <Spanska> I wonder if the emulator has the same software bugs webOS does.. I'm a bit scared by some bugs
Apr 25 00:11:48 <NuttyBunny> well, they're somewhat different.  the source files for most things may be the same, but internally your Pre uses an "Arm" processor type, and the emulator is "intel"
Apr 25 00:12:07 <Spanska> that's a big one
Apr 25 00:12:16 <Spanska> thanks guys, your comments made me go through it
Apr 25 00:12:56 <NuttyBunny> cool
Apr 25 00:16:12 <ctbeiser1> My Emulator has a habit of getting almost started and then, as soon as the Virtualbox window pops up, of freezing and refusing to do anything..
Apr 25 00:17:27 <Spanska> that's funny, I cannot edit anything in the emulator calendar..
Apr 25 00:18:45 <Spanska> oh gosh.. it does the same on a real device.. that's bad
Apr 25 00:19:04 <ctbeiser1> I have issues editing things on the device when not on wifi.
Apr 25 00:19:10 <ctbeiser1> Calendar things, that is.
Apr 25 00:19:14 <ctbeiser1> They don't stick.
Apr 25 00:19:40 <Spanska> that's totally strange
Apr 25 00:19:56 <ctbeiser1> Or, I guess 3g would probably work too, I just only get wifi.
Apr 25 00:20:13 <ctbeiser1> Not with creating things, but deleting them.
Apr 25 00:20:27 <dawm|laptop> ok
Apr 25 00:20:35 <dawm|laptop> so everyone should 'Like' http://www.facebook.com/pages/Biocandy-Labs/128474853852824
Apr 25 00:20:37 <dawm|laptop> :)
Apr 25 00:21:44 <dawm|laptop> just saying :
Apr 25 00:21:45 <dawm|laptop> P
Apr 25 00:32:16 <keith> rwhitby: any idea how i could recovery images from the /media/internal partition? testdisk sees it as a fat32, but photorec didnt get anything. my friends phone spontaneously wiped
Apr 25 00:32:22 <keith> and trying to recover data off it before
Apr 25 00:32:50 <dawm|laptop> wow.. the facebook for webos page on facebook needs some attention.. its wall has tons o spam
Apr 25 00:53:18 * madnificent sent his update to palm
Apr 25 01:10:26 <leiru> tired after 3 days easterhegg
Apr 25 01:10:31 <leiru> *yawn*
Apr 25 01:22:30 <Spanska> interesting bug, I can block the whole calendar application
Apr 25 01:22:57 <Spanska> by just creating an event.. it must be a 'maliciously crafted' event
Apr 25 01:23:41 <Loudergood> I have a feeling the indexer gets blocked in a similar manner
Apr 25 01:25:23 <Spanska> the media indexer?
Apr 25 01:46:02 <dawm_> i think that was the longest email i've written on my pre
Apr 25 01:46:09 <dawm_> but i just had to do it on my pre ;p
Apr 25 01:46:36 <NuttyBunny> what for? for the signature? ;)
Apr 25 01:47:10 <NuttyBunny> You write it on your pc, save it to drafts, open the draft, copy/paste in a new one and voilá, uber big email "Sent from my Pre"
Apr 25 01:47:34 <dawm_> i already had most of it typed and saved in a memo
Apr 25 02:07:13 <dawm_> http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/12-year-old-is-latest-football-trick-shot-video-?urn=highschool-wp1188
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