**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 28 02:59:57 2011
May 28 03:00:02 <ozetadev> I
May 28 03:00:08 <ozetadev> m not 100% clear on what they do, but sounds cool
May 28 03:00:14 <DocLee> Busting down doors...fixing people's Pres...
May 28 03:00:20 <PatrickC> lol
May 28 03:00:52 <ozetadev> Did you all pick up the AppMill?
May 28 03:01:17 * PatrickC didn't 
May 28 03:01:41 * oil would have if his main profile was on a 2.x device
May 28 03:01:47 <halfhalo> lies
May 28 03:01:54 <halfhalo> you sir, are a lion
May 28 03:02:06 <DocLee> I would, but I don't have a working Pre/Pixi
May 28 03:02:09 * PatrickC thinks oil should meta-doctor
May 28 03:02:24 <ozetadev> seems great so far, was very buggy at first
May 28 03:03:24 <oil> meh
May 28 03:04:32 <DocLee> I suppose I should get one of those one of these days...
May 28 03:04:55 <PatrickC> "one of those" ? lol
May 28 03:05:26 <DocLee> A Pre or Pixi
May 28 03:06:49 <PatrickC> lol
May 28 03:06:52 <PatrickC> dev device?
May 28 03:07:26 <DocLee> I haven't had a working Pre in over a year
May 28 03:07:36 <DocLee> Palm said they'd send one...  Never did
May 28 03:07:37 <DocLee> Bastards
May 28 03:09:26 <PatrickC> ask again?
May 28 03:09:29 <PatrickC> lol
May 28 03:09:36 <ozetadev> Missed out on the dev devices Im guessing?
May 28 03:10:04 <DocLee> Nope
May 28 03:10:23 <DocLee> Requested it during that time
May 28 03:10:31 <oil> get a veer?
May 28 03:10:39 <DocLee> I'm not paying for it
May 28 03:10:52 <PatrickC> make TuneIn pay for it?
May 28 03:11:09 <oil> srsly
May 28 03:11:13 <DocLee> We don't pay for devices
May 28 03:12:23 <oil> heh
May 28 03:42:36 <connorlacombe> Hi.
May 28 03:42:48 <PatrickC> hey connorlacombe
May 28 03:43:24 <ozetadev> oh its connor
May 28 03:43:27 <ozetadev> would you loooooook at that.
May 28 03:45:33 <connorlacombe> oh
May 28 03:45:34 <connorlacombe> it's philip.
May 28 03:46:03 * PatrickC runs the other direction
May 28 03:46:33 <ozetadev> why would patrickc do that?
May 28 03:46:44 * PatrickC isn't here
May 28 03:47:18 <ozetadev> oh
May 28 03:58:15 <dwc-> hmm, who was it in here in the sfbay with the nissan leaf
May 28 04:00:12 <ozetadev> i belive that is lemketron
May 28 04:01:35 <dwc-> well, if he has a red one and was in sunnyvale tonight, I was behind him at a stoplight
May 28 04:02:30 <PatrickC> did you hit him?
May 28 04:03:04 <SineOt> I think his is blue
May 28 04:03:13 <dwc-> nah
May 28 04:04:17 <dwc-> I'm a better driver than that
May 28 04:04:39 * PatrickC isn't lol
May 28 04:04:58 <dwc-> good... stay on your side of the country then :)
May 28 04:05:05 <oil> gtfo our side!
May 28 04:05:14 <PatrickC> oil: what side are you on?
May 28 04:05:21 <oil> this side
May 28 04:05:30 <PatrickC> I'm on this side too
May 28 04:05:54 * oil moves
May 28 04:06:22 <PatrickC> can someone visit http://simpletutorials.org ?
May 28 04:06:37 <oil> at least its not a rickroll
May 28 04:06:47 <PatrickC> where did it go?
May 28 04:06:53 <dwc-> yes it loads
May 28 04:06:53 <PatrickC> to the godaddy site?
May 28 04:07:00 <dwc-> to http://simpletutorials.org/
May 28 04:07:07 <dwc-> no redirect
May 28 04:07:11 <PatrickC> what did it show?
May 28 04:07:18 <oil> its under construction
May 28 04:07:18 <dwc-> -----WE ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION!! THIS SITE WILL LOOK BETTER SOON-----
May 28 04:07:18 <SineOt> A page saying it was getting built.
May 28 04:07:27 <oil> its missing the "man digging" sign
May 28 04:07:35 <dwc-> animated gif
May 28 04:07:38 <PatrickC> grr.. stupid pre2
May 28 04:07:39 <SineOt> Should you really be writing tutorials when you don't really get it yourself :I
May 28 04:07:39 <oil> yeah
May 28 04:07:56 <PatrickC> its cached the godaddy site
May 28 04:08:03 <PatrickC> SineOt: I'm writing the HTML tutorial
May 28 04:08:06 <dwc-> elcome to Simple Tutorials! Where the tutorials go from beginner to expert!
May 28 04:08:06 <dwc-> As of right now, we only offer a Basic HTML tutorial. We will be offering more advanced HTML, CSS, JavaScript and more soon!
May 28 04:08:10 <PatrickC> I know HTML (just not JS)
May 28 04:08:27 <ozetadev> don't you um, make webos apps?
May 28 04:08:32 <PatrickC> yes
May 28 04:08:37 <ozetadev> ._.
May 28 04:08:37 <PatrickC> I know /some/ JS
May 28 04:08:39 <ozetadev> oh
May 28 04:08:40 <ozetadev> lol.
May 28 04:08:42 <PatrickC> not much though :P
May 28 04:08:57 * oil works out a new theme for xbox app
May 28 04:08:59 <dwc-> simpletutorials.org has address 69.175.104.34
May 28 04:09:02 <PatrickC> I don't feel like learning Mojo either
May 28 04:09:03 <dwc-> 34.104.175.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer xchopin.x10hosting.com.
May 28 04:09:10 <dwc-> thats where it goes for me
May 28 04:09:10 <PatrickC> huh? lol
May 28 04:09:20 <ozetadev> patrickc flush DNS and clear your cache
May 28 04:09:40 <PatrickC> philip: how do I flush the DNS on my pre2?
May 28 04:09:43 <Tommy> PatrickC: my good friend laura, who swore by webOS for such a long time (she's the only webOS fan i know personally) just grabbed a nexus S
May 28 04:09:45 <dwc-> he might not be able to flush his isp's resolver though... worth a shot
May 28 04:10:06 <Tommy> PatrickC: because the pre 3 won't be coming out for sprint, and she doesn't wanna switch carriers... this is why HP needs more phones :(
May 28 04:10:16 * halfhalo keeps out of this convo since if he enters it he will snap
May 28 04:10:27 <PatrickC> Tommy: it might go to sprint
May 28 04:10:31 <Tommy> halfhalo: calm down there skippy, it's all because of carrier
May 28 04:10:34 <PatrickC> (not likely though)
May 28 04:10:37 <Tommy> PatrickC: well, everything i've seen says verizon/AT&T
May 28 04:10:41 <Tommy> and no sprint
May 28 04:10:50 <halfhalo> not the sprint crap, the earlier crap
May 28 04:10:57 <PatrickC> Tommy: halfhalo's probably talking about my convo about my site :P
May 28 04:10:58 <Tommy> huh
May 28 04:11:02 <Tommy> oh okay lol
May 28 04:11:08 <Tommy> sorry i'm baked
May 28 04:11:25 <PatrickC> halfhalo: I didnt buy it or set it up
May 28 04:12:18 * halfhalo walks away
May 28 04:12:34 <PatrickC> fine
May 28 04:12:42 <PatrickC> it was gifted to me by someone
May 28 04:12:47 <ozetadev> really?
May 28 04:12:50 <ozetadev> they sound awesome
May 28 04:13:02 <PatrickC> yeah
May 28 04:13:07 <PatrickC> they r
May 28 04:13:42 <PatrickC> they also have this awesome new site called http://techswarm.com
May 28 04:14:49 <dwc-> hmm, ozeta designs?
May 28 04:14:59 <halfhalo> ok, I tried.  I really did.  But I can't keep my mouth shut.  That html tutorial on that site is just wrong
May 28 04:15:10 <dwc-> created.... an hour ago
May 28 04:15:30 <PatrickC> halfhalo: why?
May 28 04:15:32 <connorlacombe> what about techswarm? lol
May 28 04:15:46 <PatrickC> haha
May 28 04:17:21 <PatrickC> connor.. writing buddies :)
May 28 04:18:19 <halfhalo> no doctype, p, br, and hr tags are incorrect
May 28 04:18:40 <PatrickC> ah.. I forgot the doctype...
May 28 04:18:52 <PatrickC> and what's wrong with the p, Br, and hr tags?
May 28 04:19:36 <oil> blink and marquee are hte best tags
May 28 04:19:39 <halfhalo> p tag needs a closing tag, and br and hr should be in the form of <br/> and <hr/>
May 28 04:19:54 <halfhalo> oil: I take your blink and raise you an iframe
May 28 04:19:56 <oil> if xhtml
May 28 04:20:31 <PatrickC> halfhalo: wanna write a tutorial?
May 28 04:20:43 <oil> lol
May 28 04:20:47 <halfhalo> yeano
May 28 04:20:51 <PatrickC> lol
May 28 04:20:52 <halfhalo> never going to happen
May 28 04:20:56 <PatrickC> I know oil does
May 28 04:21:11 <oil> lol
May 28 04:21:17 <halfhalo> and even if I did, you couldn't afford my rates
May 28 04:21:22 <PatrickC> lol
May 28 04:21:36 <PatrickC> hmm.. 3 doughnuts/hour?
May 28 04:21:39 * PatrickC ducks
May 28 04:21:41 <oil> you know who would go great together? PatrickC and kesne
May 28 04:21:46 <halfhalo> 50 cents a word.
May 28 04:21:50 <halfhalo> oh god
May 28 04:21:52 <PatrickC> oil: nooo
May 28 04:21:54 <oil> lol
May 28 04:22:50 * ozetadev doesn't know who that is
May 28 04:22:59 <oil> they're like the same person
May 28 04:22:59 <PatrickC> whew... kense isn't on atm..
May 28 04:23:05 <PatrickC> no we aren't! lol
May 28 04:23:12 <oil> but kesne knows more js/html/css
May 28 04:23:17 <ozetadev> oh dis.
May 28 04:23:19 <halfhalo> yup
May 28 04:23:24 <PatrickC> see
May 28 04:23:28 <halfhalo> then again, so does this rock
May 28 04:23:30 <PatrickC> we aren't the same person :P
May 28 04:23:33 <PatrickC> lol
May 28 04:23:54 <PatrickC> could that rock build a site? huh huh? :)
May 28 04:23:59 <halfhalo> yes
May 28 04:24:26 <PatrickC> I'll take 2
May 28 04:25:14 <halfhalo> it will cost you a kidney
May 28 04:25:18 <PatrickC> I'll take 2 site building rocks and 1 halfhalo for $5 shipped
May 28 04:26:11 <oil> lol
May 28 04:27:48 <dwc-> halfhalo: screw xhtml ;)
May 28 04:28:11 <dwc-> html 4.01/transitional forever :]
May 28 04:28:11 <halfhalo> screw a web framework? how  would you manage that
May 28 04:28:19 <halfhalo> YES
May 28 04:28:20 <halfhalo> WIN
May 28 04:28:25 <halfhalo> HTML4 FTW
May 28 04:30:02 <dohtem> we should bury dwc- with IE6
May 28 04:31:21 <dwc-> I think html5 IE6 doesn't run on any of my operating systems.... there was IE5 though
May 28 04:32:00 <dwc-> anyways, I think <br> and <hr> are perfectly legitimate html5
May 28 04:32:27 <oil> yeah, halfhalo was thinking of xhtml
May 28 04:32:41 <rwhitby> morning
May 28 04:32:51 * rwhitby blatantly plugs http://bit.ly/veer-disassembly
May 28 04:33:01 <dohtem> <br /> <hr />*
May 28 04:33:23 <oil> nice background choice :)
May 28 04:33:34 <dohtem> rwhitby = Australian iFixit
May 28 04:33:36 <oil> too many pictures like this go with white :)
May 28 04:34:00 <SineOt> rwhitby: I take it that the Veer doesn't have an A6 then? ;D
May 28 04:34:17 <halfhalo> got a veer and broke it within a few days... this is why we can't have nice things!
May 28 04:34:54 <rwhitby> SineOt: the Veer does have an A6 of some sort, and mucking with it bricks the device
May 28 04:35:09 <dohtem> "It is possible to remove the battery without dislodging the white warranty sticker." <- :)
May 28 04:35:43 <SineOt> rwhitby: so still no idea what exactly the A6 is?
May 28 04:35:51 <rwhitby> halfhalo: got a veer and bricked it within 4 hours you mean.
May 28 04:36:05 <halfhalo> that must be a record of some sort
May 28 04:36:14 <PatrickC> dang
May 28 04:36:18 <PatrickC> what did you do? lol
May 28 04:36:40 <rwhitby> stay clear of the modem and A6 is all I will say
May 28 04:36:49 <PatrickC> rwhitby: recoverable at all?
May 28 04:36:56 <halfhalo> get home, open box, power on "awww I bricked it!"
May 28 04:37:05 <PatrickC> or is it a shiny paper weight now?
May 28 04:38:06 <rwhitby> halfhalo: no, I had time to activate it with Impostah, verify that worked fine, install and test Preware, Save/Restore, Govnah, etc.
May 28 04:38:22 <rwhitby> and start investigating new things, one of which bricked it.
May 28 04:38:36 <halfhalo> busy as a bee I see
May 28 04:38:39 <rwhitby> PatrickC: bricked means bricked.
May 28 04:39:12 <dwc-> but for him, when he calls it bricked, he can still webos doctor it
May 28 04:40:20 <PatrickC> dwc-: or memboot and fix my partitions that I screwed up.. lol
May 28 04:40:34 <halfhalo> when I brick something... it usually involves an actual brick.  I tend to not mess with my electronics to much
May 28 04:43:59 <rwhitby> dwc-: yes, he has a girl's definition of bricked
May 28 04:45:49 <dohtem> "she bricked my car!"
May 28 04:52:53 <Tommy> PatrickC: are you getting a pre 3?
May 28 05:09:26 <dwc-> well, bricked can mean roken past the point where they can repair it themselves
May 28 05:09:43 <dwc-> I dunno exactly what you did but it's quite possible it's recoverable, if you're hpalm and know exactly what to do already....
May 28 05:11:49 <cwayne> lololololo
May 28 05:12:29 <cwayne> PatrickC: hey
May 28 05:14:43 <rwhitby> dwc-: all known recovery methods have been tried. it does not appear on the USB bus when connected to a Linux machine.
May 28 05:15:03 <cwayne> rwhitby: iwhat haps?
May 28 05:15:22 <rwhitby> cwayne: bricked a Veer
May 28 05:15:48 <cwayne> rwhitby: shit
May 28 05:17:19 <cwayne> rwhitby: were you trying to doctor it?
May 28 05:17:44 <rwhitby> stay clear of the modem and A6 is all I will say
May 28 05:21:44 <SineOt> rwhitby: I like the teaser pic of the Veer tear down you posted
May 28 05:21:58 <SineOt> especially since it's a Flickr error page saying this image is not available :I
May 28 05:22:39 <rwhitby> you have to work for the teaser
May 28 05:37:42 <rwhitby> teaser should be good now
May 28 08:17:45 <PatrickC> Tommy: yes probably
May 28 20:03:54 <Boopop> just phoned up the bloke with my pre 2...being dispatched on wednesday/thursday =)
May 28 20:04:09 <Boopop> £155, fwoar
May 28 21:00:23 <sugardave> so, who is sunburned, drunk, and burning hot dogs?
May 28 21:01:55 <Loudergood> would you like some water?
May 28 21:02:03 <Loudergood> I've got plenty of it
May 28 21:03:28 <sugardave> heh, I'm good, though I could use some at my house instead
May 28 21:04:17 <sugardave> I have a feeling I'm going to come home to a blackened patch of earth where the grass used to be before it spontaneously combusted
May 28 21:05:32 <Loudergood> this pretty much sums up the past couple days around here http://caledonianrecord.com/SiteImages/PGallery/3052.jpg
May 28 22:17:38 <sugardave> Loudergood: jeez, exciting road conditions!
May 28 22:18:33 <Loudergood> there was a train of thunderstorms thursday night, also knocked out one of our main wireless backhauls
May 28 22:20:24 <sugardave> I can see why you'd be sick of rain by now :/
May 28 22:20:51 <Loudergood> it's been raining pretty steadily since it stopped snow last month ;)
May 28 22:21:04 <sugardave> nice
May 28 22:38:25 <leiru> re
May 28 22:40:34 * haeffb is thinking about putting something on the grill...or in the smoker...or both...
May 28 22:41:13 <dohtem> a bacon explosion, perhaps?
May 28 22:44:11 <haeffb> bacon-wrapped bacon?
May 28 22:44:19 <haeffb> so, Touchpad in two weeks?
May 28 22:45:00 <dohtem> save yo cash!
May 28 22:46:46 <Loudergood> fried bacon knots?
May 28 22:53:03 <haeffb> deep fried bacon?
May 28 22:53:10 <rwhitby> morning
May 28 22:53:22 <rwhitby> today is Veer disassembly day
May 28 22:53:34 <dohtem> rwhitby: saw the new dissasembly pics you added.  Great work
May 28 22:53:48 <dohtem> no more flickr error img :)
May 28 22:56:52 <Jake_M> remember the first days of the pre minus disassembly?
May 28 22:56:58 <rwhitby> Veer disassembly page donations recouped the whole $550 expense.
May 28 22:57:13 <Loudergood> nice
May 29 00:03:28 <madnificent> did anyone have any luck installing virtualbox 3.2 on ubuntu 11.04?  I can't get it to run
May 29 00:13:01 <madnificent> well, feel free to /msg me any help, this is frustrating...
May 29 00:20:14 <rwhitby> just get early access, then you can run the latest virtualbox
May 29 00:20:50 <rwhitby> (that piece of information is public knowledge posted by lemketron here, not under NDA)
May 29 00:27:43 <DocLee> lies
May 29 00:51:11 <leiru> madnificent: i think nuttybunny had a hack for this
May 29 00:51:17 <leiru> on a japanese page
May 29 00:51:34 <leiru> but i do not remember, as it was after i switched back to 10.04
May 29 00:51:56 <leiru> okay, good nite.
May 29 01:04:40 <madnificent> leiru: thanks!
May 29 01:18:00 <Loudergood> madnificent: https://zhyu.me/ubuntu/solution-for-vbox-on-2-6-38.html
May 29 01:18:10 <Loudergood> that's the one that NuttyBunny found
May 29 01:36:13 <madnificent> Loudergood: thanks!  I'll look into it tomorow :D
May 29 01:36:24 <madnificent> this should get me back on track for releasing a new version of tasks@hand :)
May 29 01:39:44 <NuttyBunny> I used that on my Ubuntu 11.04 to run 3.2 on it
May 29 01:40:46 <madnificent> NuttyBunny: and it worked?
May 29 01:42:54 <madnificent> sigh, doesn't seem to run here at first sight
May 29 01:43:08 <madnificent> NuttyBunny: can I bother you with it tomorow?  It's verrrry late here
May 29 01:43:44 <NuttyBunny> madnificent: sure
May 29 01:48:57 <madnificent> thanks
May 29 02:44:36 <DocLee> What was I doing?
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