**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 12 02:59:56 2011 Jun 12 03:07:18 omgomgomg Jun 12 03:07:26 REWIND, THE PERFECT GROUP PHOTO Jun 12 03:17:24 how many people have called the white veer a Panda so far? Jun 12 03:17:54 probably a lot Jun 12 03:18:09 how many have wanted to paint a tail on the back of it so that it was a panda? probably just me :I Jun 12 03:19:18 fastest thing I've seen in a webOS device though. Jun 12 03:19:31 its really quick Jun 12 03:19:35 its the pandaphone Jun 12 03:21:06 my Pixi with 2.1 on it is probably the slowest thing I've ever seen in a webOS device :U Jun 12 03:29:49 SineOt: hahahahaha you are fantastic Jun 12 03:29:54 (re: paint a tail) Jun 12 03:30:24 SineOt: you do realize, however, that pandas do not have tails Jun 12 03:30:36 http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-panda-has-technical-difficulties1.jpg Jun 12 03:31:18 they've got like a little stub thing! Jun 12 03:31:41 oh dear now I've gone and thought about all the mods you could do to a Veer :C Jun 12 03:31:55 Red Panda Veer? <3 <3 <3 Jun 12 03:56:49 Now I'm way curious about the coloring on the Pre+ :p Jun 12 06:18:03 Har har har Jun 12 06:27:59 HE HE HE Jun 12 06:28:12 torchie! Jun 12 06:39:51 Done Jun 12 06:40:21 DocLee: What with? Jun 12 06:40:30 The app Jun 12 06:40:40 Congrats then! Jun 12 06:41:22 It's a hack and a half. Jun 12 09:12:14 hi Jun 12 15:22:05 good morning #webos Jun 12 15:23:28 Mornings mr. haeffb Jun 12 15:27:43 how's the eurozone today? Jun 12 15:28:35 very well Jun 12 15:30:57 #HPVeer is promoted on twitter Jun 12 15:31:54 yer not cheap Jun 12 15:35:23 http://twitter.com/#!/ReneOfAllTrades/status/79882076412841984 - ouch Jun 12 15:41:23 keith: ping Jun 12 16:33:54 I'm getting really confused by CCATS number on the app submission process Jun 12 16:34:44 It uses the built in Palm encryption, do I say yes, and get my own CCATS number citing Palm's CCATS number in my application, or do I just say No? Jun 12 16:38:23 I'm totally lost, I can't even see how to apply for a CCATS number :/ Jun 12 16:49:42 according to this, using the built-in encryption means you don't need a CCATS number: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=8180&hilit=encryption Jun 12 16:49:48 you'll have to scroll down a bit Jun 12 16:56:39 haeffb: Yeah, I eventually found that. Thanks Jun 12 16:56:52 Really confusing for the first time though, not very clear in the submission process Jun 12 21:24:20 Do Pre 2's have the induction battery cover built in? Jun 12 21:27:28 yes Jun 12 21:31:22 who here has done the radio swap to get a sprint pre 2 Jun 12 21:31:38 can't say Jun 12 21:32:04 ? Jun 12 21:33:09 haeffb has Jun 12 21:33:20 * haeffb has Jun 12 21:33:40 I watched someone do it, but they're not here Jun 12 21:34:13 it's easy once you've done it a couple of times Jun 12 21:34:47 ya Jun 12 21:35:00 except for the tabs on the side of the slider Jun 12 21:36:24 they're easy too, once you've done it. Jun 12 21:36:32 just have to flex 'em a bit Jun 12 21:36:41 haeffb: does it need any software changes? Jun 12 21:37:07 i'm not interested in doing it with a pre, but the fact that you can just swap out hardware radios intrigues me for other phones Jun 12 21:37:08 yes, you have to run the appropriate webos doctor created by meta-doctor Jun 12 21:37:16 okay then, that's what i figured Jun 12 21:37:39 because if i'm talking GSM phones, i could swap out the radio by taking a look under the hood, but idk wtf i'm doing as far as software fixes of that Jun 12 21:38:16 well...you can do it with Pre/Pre2 because their hardware configuration is very similar Jun 12 21:38:25 you couldn't do it with Pre/Pre3 Jun 12 21:38:50 * haeffb going mobile. Later. Jun 12 21:41:11 umk Jun 12 21:42:19 you could do it with more open hardware/software ... because you could swap the appropriate sw bits to go with the hw Jun 12 21:42:55 dwc-: yeah, i was thinking like, another phone where it has a similar hardware variant Jun 12 21:43:10 android phones in particular Jun 12 21:43:27 (sorry, oil, i'm bringing it back to android again) Jun 12 21:43:51 well, if the parts are electrically compatible and swappable, you probably could find some way to hack it together Jun 12 21:44:02 no you're not haha Jun 12 21:44:07 *someone* probably could, but i'm not a CS major :P Jun 12 21:44:15 i'm a noob when it comes to this stuffs Jun 12 22:58:53 hey guys, have a quick question: where are email attachments downloaded to from the email app on webOS 2.1? Jun 12 23:00:06 rsanchez1: if no one responds here, #webos-internals may know Jun 12 23:00:20 alright Jun 12 23:06:20 "This shift will not be fully realized in 2011. It represents a change of emphasis. However, I do believe that companies focused on beating Apple to market with faster processors, greater quantities of applications, and in general more stuff are bound to find themselves side-swiped by a future in which none of that matters." Jun 12 23:06:27 is HP up to some brilliant shit Jun 12 23:35:50 does anyone have an example of how to use the mojo filepicker that works Jun 12 23:35:54 the example https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/mojo/classes/mojo-filepicker.html#example-use does not work Jun 12 23:45:05 PuffTheMagic: Hang on, I'll dig up some of my code for you Jun 12 23:46:04 PuffTheMagic: Huh... That's pretty much what I have, except I have a different onSelect function, other than that, identical Jun 12 23:46:17 do you use prototype? Jun 12 23:46:52 as in prototype.js, or prototype for extending objects? Jun 12 23:47:10 the latter i beleive Jun 12 23:47:13 believe Jun 12 23:47:32 As in NewPostAssistant.prototype.handleCommand = function() Jun 12 23:47:35 ya Jun 12 23:47:41 yeah, that's what I use Jun 12 23:48:34 http://dpaste.com/553482/ Jun 12 23:48:35 is what i have Jun 12 23:49:00 except that is function(file) not event Jun 12 23:52:00 does filePicked fire at all? Jun 12 23:52:07 ya Jun 12 23:52:16 i get a cannot call method 'bind' of undefined Jun 12 23:53:30 PuffTheMagic: Try this instead http://dpaste.com/553484/ Jun 12 23:54:20 "this" inside params refers to the params object Jun 12 23:56:18 doesnt help Jun 12 23:56:26 stlll the same error? Jun 12 23:56:29 *still Jun 12 23:56:29 ya Jun 12 23:57:35 is it possible that when you're calling pickFile, it's not being bound to this? Jun 12 23:57:47 sounds to me like this in your pickFile method is referring to something else Jun 12 23:58:41 can you upload where pickFile is being called from? Jun 13 00:05:18 * Popple3 pokes PuffTheMagic :P Jun 13 00:05:34 you want me to upload something? Jun 13 00:05:50 post the code where pickFile is being called from (if you can) Jun 13 00:06:06 sounds like pickFile ends up running in a different context Jun 13 00:31:19 hello NuttyBunny Jun 13 00:31:26 et al. Jun 13 00:31:52 Hi, whassup :) Jun 13 00:32:30 working on a [redacted] version of [redacted] for the HP [redacted] Jun 13 00:33:58 hehehe... yeah, here too, stupid [redacted]... (well, stupid me, I broke it) ;) Jun 13 00:39:38 Chrome complains about an undefined object... and I can't figure out why it's undefined.. *sigh* and it's almost the last step to get everything working... Jun 13 01:12:14 * haeffb taking a break from coding. Been a long weekend... Jun 13 01:15:43 haeffb: que lengua Jun 13 01:16:27 which? Jun 13 01:16:43 what language Jun 13 01:16:48 (s) Jun 13 01:16:50 do you code in Jun 13 01:21:11 english Jun 13 01:21:48 I program in pig latin Jun 13 01:28:38 I just spent a couple hours debugging the wrong problem Jun 13 01:28:45 stupid 80+ line stack traces Jun 13 01:28:53 sweet Jun 13 01:32:21 Anybody want to demo? Jun 13 01:34:37 demo what? Jun 13 01:34:51 The next TuneIn Radio Jun 13 01:35:00 ah, sure Jun 13 02:05:27 DocLee: is it different from Friday? Jun 13 02:05:34 Yeah Jun 13 02:05:40 send it! Jun 13 02:05:48 Basically the same but polished for release Jun 13 02:05:49 Tommy: javascript currently Jun 13 02:08:16 Added a dashboard too Jun 13 02:17:24 nifty Jun 13 02:17:58 Need to make more ad spaces though Jun 13 02:18:12 MOAR ADDS! Jun 13 02:18:51 Getting that ad to work was actually quite difficult Jun 13 02:22:06 * haeffb hasn't seen an ad yet Jun 13 02:22:13 On the playing page Jun 13 02:24:39 really what is an ad Jun 13 02:24:58 An advertisement. Jun 13 02:26:16 yeah i know but what IS it Jun 13 02:26:29 A way of generating revenue Jun 13 02:27:05 it's stuff that by and large detracts from the user experience :p Jun 13 02:27:52 Got to pay the bills Jun 13 02:30:24 for your yachts Jun 13 02:30:51 For the servers Jun 13 02:31:29 for googles stock price Jun 13 02:33:34 is there a default time out for an xhr request in webOS? Jun 13 02:33:53 I don't believe so Jun 13 02:34:19 i'm seeing requests .. timeout before my timeout occurs. or webOS cant keep track of tim. Jun 13 02:35:24 lower your timeout then =] Jun 13 02:35:52 yours might be higher than the network stack's Jun 13 02:36:03 ya, nice solution. timeout to 20 sec rahter than 30. great. Jun 13 02:36:39 well, you have to be handling timeouts already anyways, right? Jun 13 02:37:46 yes, but was doing it by seeing if it took longer than X seconds for the callback to fire Jun 13 02:38:20 and using a timeout to call xhr.abort() Jun 13 02:38:30 which then triggers the callback. Jun 13 02:39:23 I'm using prototype... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 13 02:59:57 2011