**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 06 02:59:57 2011 Jul 06 02:59:59 mine is Enyo+HTML5 :D Jul 06 03:00:00 i can fix your var for you Jul 06 03:00:14 I just need to get a device to include webOS instead of just android Jul 06 03:00:34 fxspec06: I've been working with ozetadev for like an hour or 2 trying to fix it (well, an hour on and off) Jul 06 03:00:47 Anyone with an idea of how to save a toDataURL value into a file? (yes, I know, node.js, but how)? :( Jul 06 03:01:00 we got it to play a pre-specified link, but not the contents of a textbox Jul 06 03:01:12 Pat - what kind of app is it Jul 06 03:01:21 fxspec06: the beta app :) Jul 06 03:01:26 aren't you in my beta program? Jul 06 03:01:36 me? noooo am i? Jul 06 03:01:39 i don't think so Jul 06 03:01:47 is it for pre 2? Jul 06 03:01:53 hmm.. seems you arent.. want to be :), Jul 06 03:01:55 yeah Jul 06 03:02:01 sure then Jul 06 03:02:02 my main dev is on my pre2 Jul 06 03:02:08 PM me your email Jul 06 03:02:10 k Jul 06 03:03:31 you guys. Jul 06 03:03:34 geeze. Jul 06 03:04:03 it's this.$.dkirker.setShowing(true); Jul 06 03:04:13 lol Jul 06 03:04:16 win Jul 06 03:04:22 * Tibfib_ haeffb wins Jul 06 03:04:28 woot! Jul 06 03:05:06 bbl Jul 06 03:05:44 haeffb: hahahaha Jul 06 03:08:58 okay so we can close this IRC channel now Jul 06 03:09:09 i'm pretty sure haeffb just wins Jul 06 03:11:27 Popple3: ping Jul 06 03:11:57 * haeffb loves the fact that we can talk about [redacted] in here now Jul 06 03:13:22 dont have to redact it anymore Jul 06 03:16:50 funkatron: re belts - I think we should just create a Ninja category and be done with it Jul 06 03:16:57 NINJITSU Jul 06 03:18:59 dragon belt? Jul 06 03:19:21 anyone know if when a help icon is clicked it simply opens the browser to a page like this -->http://bobc.in/im/help/ Jul 06 03:20:12 is that acceptable for TP app approval? Jul 06 03:24:15 damn your unclickable link! Jul 06 03:24:56 works fine for me Jul 06 03:25:15 LoneStar99: I would think that's find Jul 06 03:25:18 fine* Jul 06 03:25:27 you could always open it in-app with webview Jul 06 03:25:28 really? I just did a scene for help on each stage of my other app :) Jul 06 03:25:38 (text only) Jul 06 03:25:42 lol Jul 06 03:26:08 and it has passed all the reviews, everytime ;) Jul 06 03:26:22 NuttyBunny: I'll probably have a working *feature limited* beta out tonight or tomorrow Jul 06 03:26:32 :D Jul 06 03:26:45 PatrickC: yeah webview forgot about that Jul 06 03:27:16 NuttyBunny: Yeah, me 2. Now, if someone would point me to a way of implementing the node.js savefile ... Jul 06 03:29:32 I needs me some hardware! Jul 06 03:30:13 New Security Vulnerabilities Unveiled in webOS 3.0 @ http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/07/new-security-vulnerabilities-unveiled-in-webos-3-0/ :'( Jul 06 03:30:20 akanster: same here Jul 06 03:31:04 I needs me some palm email Jul 06 03:32:39 i see that patrick Jul 06 03:32:43 reading now Jul 06 03:32:52 it stinks :/ Jul 06 03:33:35 meh, not really Jul 06 03:34:00 if people take advantage of it, then it could.. Jul 06 03:34:04 internet explorer has more holes than swiss cheeze Jul 06 03:34:22 IE doesn't hold all your info that a phone does Jul 06 03:34:24 yet people have no problem using that every day Jul 06 03:34:45 my phone has confidential info on it.. that I don't want the general public to see Jul 06 03:35:21 my point is hp will for certain review it and patch if necessary Jul 06 03:35:30 yeah Jul 06 03:35:32 but when.. Jul 06 03:35:36 asap Jul 06 03:35:42 they're hp Jul 06 03:36:14 i'm sure they've released printers before that allowed unauthorized network access Jul 06 03:36:19 or something Jul 06 03:36:28 that was a huge deal at one point Jul 06 03:36:39 nobody wrote an article about or cared Jul 06 03:37:02 android has security flaws Jul 06 03:37:06 remember the flashlight apps Jul 06 03:37:12 ios had them too Jul 06 03:37:14 freetether Jul 06 03:37:29 google knows of the android security flaws Jul 06 03:37:39 and freeTether isn't a security flaw! :) Jul 06 03:37:41 every major windows release has had major security flaws Jul 06 03:37:55 the iOS flashlight app that was freetether Jul 06 03:38:04 i'm saying Jul 06 03:38:06 at one point Jul 06 03:38:07 ah Jul 06 03:38:08 have an icon and on tap want to open browser window, what is the simplest way... Jul 06 03:38:14 every platform has had security flaws Jul 06 03:38:19 it happens, they get fixed. Jul 06 03:38:22 LoneStar99: enyo? Jul 06 03:41:32 yeah Jul 06 03:42:21 with mojo setup listener then a function, not sure if it is that simple in enyo... Jul 06 03:42:26 not sure then Jul 06 03:46:23 did the private forum dissapper? Jul 06 03:46:44 oh wait Jul 06 03:46:50 you can use mojo Jul 06 03:46:50 I believe chuq said not to use it anymore Jul 06 03:46:53 in an enyo app Jul 06 03:46:59 because i can answer this real e z Jul 06 03:47:02 yeah.. Jul 06 03:47:09 k hold on Jul 06 03:47:13 you can use mojo in enyo Jul 06 03:47:14 fxspec06: not to use what? Jul 06 03:47:16 * fxspec06 opsn workspace Jul 06 03:47:28 you just have to link to mojo in the index.html iirc Jul 06 03:48:25 http://pastebin.com/yQwYMumz Jul 06 03:48:52 set up listener to call function Jul 06 03:48:55 on tap Jul 06 03:48:58 done. Jul 06 03:50:05 there's probably a way to do in enyo as well Jul 06 03:50:11 i know there is Jul 06 03:50:15 i just don't know it Jul 06 03:50:58 yeah gonna try enyo for abit, worse case will use mojo in my enyo app =) Jul 06 03:51:08 bbl Jul 06 03:52:04 k Jul 06 03:52:34 i wish there was an easier way to open framework api Jul 06 03:52:38 oh wait nvm Jul 06 03:52:43 chrome attach to icon Jul 06 03:53:21 shortcut* Jul 06 03:55:04 i saw someone post how to do it last week Jul 06 04:03:05 i can't find it Jul 06 04:03:16 i'm about to go to bed, sry lonestar Jul 06 04:03:24 passing out as i type Jul 06 04:06:29 fxspec06: ok no problem, it was posted here? Jul 06 04:08:27 i think Jul 06 04:08:39 it may have been in a link Jul 06 04:08:45 in pastebin Jul 06 04:08:58 i forget tbh Jul 06 04:09:03 i know i saw it though Jul 06 04:09:20 i looked through api quickly and didn't see it, but it could be in there Jul 06 04:09:26 i'll try to see in the morning Jul 06 04:09:28 g'nite Jul 06 04:09:59 can webos support ms oc? Jul 06 04:11:03 infidel: huh? ms oc? Jul 06 04:11:08 oc? Jul 06 04:11:13 orange county? Jul 06 04:11:29 now time to get this var working Jul 06 04:11:32 office communicator Jul 06 04:11:59 orc cutter Jul 06 04:12:51 why would my var work a predefined url, but not the content of a textbox.. Jul 06 04:14:50 anyone? Jul 06 04:16:02 PatrickC: I have no idea what you're asking Jul 06 04:16:10 PatrickC: is the value being passed? Jul 06 04:16:32 LoneStar99: when I predefine the url, it works. Jul 06 04:16:46 when I try and pass the contents of the textbox to it it fails Jul 06 04:17:20 LoneStar99: {kind: "Image", src: "images/myicon.png", onclick: "doAFunction"} Jul 06 04:17:42 haeffb: text not img. :) Jul 06 04:18:23 have an icon and on tap want to open browser window, what is the simplest way... Jul 06 04:18:32 oh ok. :) Jul 06 04:18:42 * Tibfib_ just had a ridiculously good idea Jul 06 04:19:12 haeffb: thanks was looking in 3.0 forum and found nothing Jul 06 04:19:15 can't believe that never crossed my mind. Jul 06 04:19:16 Tibfib_: yes? share :) Jul 06 04:19:24 here's my var: http://pastebin.com/yGV4WFnW Jul 06 04:19:26 in-app purchases could work wonderfully for donations Jul 06 04:19:46 the effort for most people to go to paypal and so forth is too much Jul 06 04:19:48 YES! that's a good idea Jul 06 04:20:05 stupid palm's 70% part Jul 06 04:20:12 LoneStar99: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=15155 gives three or four ways to open the browser window in doAFunction Jul 06 04:20:13 PatrickC: so you can't just setSrc("/media/internal...") Jul 06 04:20:15 ? Jul 06 04:20:17 Tibfib_: I've already discussed this with a number of people Jul 06 04:20:28 PatrickC: have you tried it using DOM? Jul 06 04:20:29 Tibfib_: and yes, the 30% cut is much worse than PayPal Jul 06 04:20:31 rwhitby: what? donations? and not having 70%? Jul 06 04:20:32 azakus_: I want it to be a definable src Jul 06 04:20:45 haeffb thank you much! Jul 06 04:20:54 I want the usr to be able to imput the src into my textbox and have it pass to the src and play Jul 06 04:21:07 LoneStar99: nope.. never heard of DOM Jul 06 04:21:26 you don't know what DOM is? Jul 06 04:21:28 you've... never heard of DOM? Jul 06 04:21:31 nope.. Jul 06 04:21:37 * Tibfib_ slaps PatrickC around a bit with a large trout Jul 06 04:21:40 * Loudergood is impressed Jul 06 04:21:45 Loudergood: why? Jul 06 04:21:51 PatrickC: it's just a pretty fundamental concept in web dev Jul 06 04:21:55 DOM DELUISE? Jul 06 04:22:03 which is why it's sorta surprising you haven't heard of it Jul 06 04:22:07 DOM SCHMOM Jul 06 04:22:08 summatusmentis: I know what I use. I don't use dom Jul 06 04:22:19 only crufty old people use DOM Jul 06 04:22:20 * haeffb giggles Jul 06 04:22:29 lol Jul 06 04:22:35 * rwhitby has had no need to know anything about DOM Jul 06 04:22:38 * haeffb giggles like a little girl Jul 06 04:22:54 * Loudergood rolls with the marquee tag, in lots of tables Jul 06 04:23:02 * PatrickC refrains from comment Jul 06 04:23:12 also, PuffTheMagic, you're stealin' my app ideas (kinda) Jul 06 04:23:22 PatrickC: how are you getting the value from the textbox? Jul 06 04:23:39 PatrickC: http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/dom_obj_style.asp Jul 06 04:23:53 DOM IT! Jul 06 04:24:00 haeffb: var ext = this.$.URL.getContent(); Jul 06 04:24:20 and then this.log(ext) says what? Jul 06 04:24:34 I didn't set a log.. Jul 06 04:24:37 I'll try it. Jul 06 04:24:56 night everyone Jul 06 04:25:17 rwhitby: guess you're not a crufty old person :) Jul 06 04:25:19 on the other hand, an InputBox in enyo has a getValue() method that might just do what you want. Jul 06 04:25:19 night Jul 06 04:25:37 Tibfib_: oh, but I am. 42 years crufty. Jul 06 04:25:46 child Jul 06 04:25:49 shmeh, younger than my parents Jul 06 04:25:49 babe Jul 06 04:26:07 haeffb: trying the getValue Jul 06 04:26:17 congrats rwhitby, you're too young to be Tibfib_'s father Jul 06 04:26:26 that counts for something right? Jul 06 04:26:27 oh, that's not true Jul 06 04:26:39 I didn't say that. He's just younger Jul 06 04:26:42 haeffb: thanks!!!! WORKS!!! Jul 06 04:26:43 hee Jul 06 04:26:45 I'm the youngest in my family. Jul 06 04:26:50 by a lot. Jul 06 04:26:59 PatrickC: the docs can be very helpful if you use them Jul 06 04:27:05 :) Jul 06 04:27:11 when in doubt, check the docs Jul 06 04:27:18 or in PatrickC's case, ask IRC Jul 06 04:27:21 :) Jul 06 04:27:35 how do I fix this: http://pastebin.com/stL5Ld97 Jul 06 04:27:36 NOW, I'm going to bed. Jul 06 04:27:37 guh, I hope ordering tomorrow means I'll get the TP before the weekend Jul 06 04:27:38 my 4 year old loves the touchpad Jul 06 04:27:42 i'm not sure i'm getting it back Jul 06 04:27:48 aw shucks. I'm up past bedtime again. Jul 06 04:27:50 cxreg: lol Jul 06 04:27:57 cxreg: my 6 yr old too Jul 06 04:28:01 * PatrickC is always up past bedtime lol Jul 06 04:28:04 cxreg: have markdown sorta working... Jul 06 04:28:36 PatrickC: you fix it by not calling a non-existant function Jul 06 04:28:57 gonna stay up late also Jul 06 04:29:15 summatusmentis: I was working with someone who told me to use getContent Jul 06 04:30:09 now the first beta should go out tonight!! Jul 06 04:30:39 just have to figure out how to insert plain text with enyo.. Jul 06 04:31:02 haeffb: sweet! Jul 06 04:31:07 haeffb: if i want to add i can right? Jul 06 04:31:24 haeffb: if i want to add dom attributes that is Jul 06 04:32:24 I bet you can Jul 06 04:33:48 can i just do something like --> {kind: "Image", src: "icon.png", style: "position:absolute;z-index:20", onclick: "openCan"}, Jul 06 04:38:18 * PatrickC is almost ready to push his first beta out! Jul 06 04:38:31 summatusmentis, which one? Jul 06 04:39:03 can beta released be sold? Jul 06 04:39:14 huh? Jul 06 04:39:38 PuffTheMagic: http://summatusmentis.com/wreference Jul 06 04:40:24 summatusmentis: nice Jul 06 04:40:30 PuffTheMagic: my concept was/is One Client To Rule Them All, so to speak, starting with zotero, and here you come with a mendeley beta already :) Jul 06 04:40:41 ;) Jul 06 04:40:56 i like the collaborative aspect of mendeley Jul 06 04:41:03 and the fact it has a desktop apps for every os Jul 06 04:41:08 I'm still in the "learning enyo in my spare time" stage Jul 06 04:41:29 summatusmentis: twitter profile points to .../refpapers, which 404's Jul 06 04:41:29 PatrickC: plain text? BasicInput Jul 06 04:41:40 rwhitby: it shouldn't... works here? Jul 06 04:41:43 azakus: found what I needed Jul 06 04:41:46 k Jul 06 04:41:59 {content: "Text"} Jul 06 04:42:03 rwhitby: @wreference Jul 06 04:42:04 summatusmentis: https://twitter.com/#!/wReference - look at the URL given Jul 06 04:42:05 well, yes Jul 06 04:42:14 that's just text in a
Jul 06 04:42:18 I just need it simple. Jul 06 04:42:20 summatusmentis, mendeley also gives you more storage for free Jul 06 04:42:22 kk Jul 06 04:42:40 PuffTheMagic: yeah, I looked at mendeley when I was deciding what I wanted to use originally Jul 06 04:43:00 i just learned about it friday Jul 06 04:43:03 rwhitby: I think I'm missing something Jul 06 04:43:14 oooh, that url Jul 06 04:43:15 got it Jul 06 04:43:30 haeffb: style: "width:48px;height:48px;position:absolute;z-index:20;margin:100px 0px 0px 0px", works Jul 06 04:43:40 I thought I'd fixed that :-/ refpapers was an old mojo-version working name Jul 06 04:44:07 uploading app to ftp server now. PM me if you would like to take part in this beta Jul 06 04:45:07 summatusmentis, what made you pick zotero? Jul 06 04:45:24 PuffTheMagic: open source, and built-in browser support Jul 06 04:45:39 built in browser support? Jul 06 04:45:42 rwhitby: thanks, should be fixed Jul 06 04:45:49 is that different than "a web interface" Jul 06 04:46:04 PuffTheMagic: it started as a firefox plugin, and allows things like "download this PDF into zotero" Jul 06 04:46:12 oh right Jul 06 04:46:16 which is nice when I'm browsing online databases Jul 06 04:46:28 LoneStar99: use a class if it's getting that complex Jul 06 04:46:31 mendeley has that now, and the api is open now(which i think is new) Jul 06 04:46:32 the workflow just seemed more convenient Jul 06 04:46:44 mendeley didn't have an API at the time either, yeah Jul 06 04:47:22 azakus: lol yeah true that Jul 06 04:48:47 PuffTheMagic: as it stands, my goals are full zotero support first, then maybe support some of the other options later, haven't quite decided yet Jul 06 04:49:01 what other options are there Jul 06 04:49:34 any quick solution to ssh into a pre 2? Jul 06 04:50:31 well, so, there are things like refBase (self hosted reference data base), CiteULike (may not have an API), and one other at least that's open source, but at the time didn't have the option to attach documents Jul 06 04:51:02 ya citeulike does not host docs Jul 06 04:51:23 same for refbase i believe Jul 06 04:51:33 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Comparison_of_reference_management_software Jul 06 04:51:34 * haeffb struggling with setting values for controls in a modal dialog... Jul 06 04:51:41 refbase definitely hosts docs, iirc Jul 06 04:51:49 finally got it working, but there's got to be an easier way to do this. Jul 06 04:52:18 oh, they link records to files, so it's not direct document hosting Jul 06 04:52:52 waaaay past bedtime. Jul 06 04:52:56 g'night Jul 06 04:53:02 'night Jul 06 04:55:18 aaaaaand Jul 06 04:55:24 first beta is live!!! Jul 06 04:56:00 PuffTheMagic: good luck with your app. Just not too much :-P Jul 06 04:56:10 lol same to you Jul 06 04:56:21 * summatusmentis goes to sleep Jul 06 04:56:46 PuffTheMagic: what app? Jul 06 04:57:05 sorry. ive been working on fixing my app and getting my beta users their first beta :) Jul 06 04:57:34 http://ompldr.org/vOWRmdQ Jul 06 04:58:01 cloud based pdf storage/organizer w/ hint of social networking Jul 06 04:58:28 awesome! is there a beta? Jul 06 04:59:23 soon Jul 06 04:59:46 sign up on mendeley first Jul 06 04:59:52 and see if you even like the service Jul 06 04:59:53 ok. do you think it'll run on the pre2? Jul 06 05:00:00 no Jul 06 05:00:00 ok. I'll do that Jul 06 05:00:03 im making this for the TP Jul 06 05:00:13 I run enyo on my pre2 Jul 06 05:00:16 and enyo apps. Jul 06 05:00:42 PatrickC: how's it running? Jul 06 05:00:50 azakus: amazing Jul 06 05:00:59 the only thing that doesn't work is scrolling Jul 06 05:01:25 yeah.. Jul 06 05:01:41 none of my apps use the scroller (yet) Jul 06 05:01:44 pre2 doesn't have all the gpu accelerations Jul 06 05:01:45 so I'm find for now Jul 06 05:01:52 its still very smooth Jul 06 05:02:39 PuffTheMagic: I think I'll pass for now. don't really need mendeley's service arm Jul 06 05:02:42 atm* Jul 06 05:07:39 Xuzz: ping Jul 06 05:07:54 pong Jul 06 05:07:58 sup? Jul 06 05:08:15 you the dev of Paste? Jul 06 05:09:40 Xuzz: http://awesomeapps.8tar.com/Files/paste-webos_2011-06-07_000452.png Jul 06 05:09:50 yep Jul 06 05:10:02 also, Mojo apparently only likes being inside app/ Jul 06 05:10:10 (I've submitted an update that fixes that.) Jul 06 05:10:16 ok. Jul 06 05:11:01 fatpack'd? Jul 06 05:11:47 yeah Jul 06 05:12:15 awesome Jul 06 05:12:16 i tried moving the mojo code to mojo/, but that seems to have caused that issue (and i didn't have my Pre with me when I submitted it, but wanted to get there for TouchPad launch) Jul 06 05:12:44 ah Jul 06 05:12:57 haeffb: you still around? Jul 06 05:12:58 I'm making a tp app now.. deciding if I want to fatpack Jul 06 05:13:10 Xuzz: Hello! is an example of universal packaging. Jul 06 05:13:26 rwhitby: yeah; I just made that one mistake Jul 06 05:13:35 (it's fixed now) Jul 06 05:13:51 PM me if anyone wants to be in the beta. or email beta.awesomeapps@gmail.com Jul 06 05:13:52 PatrickC: what is the plus for "fatpacking" ? Jul 06 05:14:07 LoneStar99: one appid 2 apps Jul 06 05:14:25 same app runs on any webOS device. universal packaging Jul 06 05:14:28 update 1 package to update the mojo & enyo versions of the app Jul 06 05:14:34 what rwhitby said :) Jul 06 05:14:44 PatrickC: right on Jul 06 05:14:58 I can't decide if I want to.. Jul 06 05:15:05 an enyo app does not need fatpack right? Jul 06 05:15:10 if I do, it'll be a while before its done :) Jul 06 05:15:27 LoneStar99: fatpack is only when mojo and enyo are in the same ipk Jul 06 05:16:44 Has anyone successfully ran enyo apps on their Pre2? Jul 06 05:16:55 * PatrickC raises hand Jul 06 05:17:00 ok Jul 06 05:17:29 PatrickC: I've had some time to work on things but am not quite there. Jul 06 05:17:44 if I have a hard coded div id and want to listen for tap or click how do i handle that in enyo? Jul 06 05:17:51 hmm.. what's it doing? Jul 06 05:17:59 LoneStar99: not a clue Jul 06 05:18:32 PatrickC: lol Jul 06 05:18:37 I got the enyo framework installed and also verified that palm-package changes my src directive in index.html to the proper place. I run an app and nothing happens. Jul 06 05:18:55 does the app run in the browser? Jul 06 05:19:09 yeah, i'm just doing the StyleMatters project to test Jul 06 05:19:10 and do you have the device nearby and is internalz installed? Jul 06 05:19:32 yep Jul 06 05:20:26 1 second Jul 06 05:20:49 navigate to /usr/palm/frameworks Jul 06 05:21:18 look for "enyo" in there Jul 06 05:22:01 Yeah, it's a symlink to /media/cryptofs/apps/enyo Jul 06 05:22:20 ok.. is lumberjack installed on the device? Jul 06 05:22:42 navigating into that and I have the 0.10/framework/enyo folders Jul 06 05:22:48 I can look through /var/log/messages Jul 06 05:22:53 is enyo.js in there? Jul 06 05:23:07 look to see what error(s) StyleMatters is throwing Jul 06 05:23:42 re-installing it one last time Jul 06 05:24:00 ok Jul 06 05:24:04 what the heck is the width of the TP? 1024? Jul 06 05:24:14 I believe so Jul 06 05:26:14 768 width and 1024 height in portrait view... Jul 06 05:26:44 Error454: any luck? Jul 06 05:29:03 PatrickC: So the error it is throwing is that enyo is not defined, let me check these paths again Jul 06 05:29:18 make sure it ends with enyo.js Jul 06 05:29:26 paste the path from the index.html Jul 06 05:29:26 Jul 06 05:29:48 what's the "launch="debug"" part? Jul 06 05:29:52 I never run that Jul 06 05:30:20 It's part of the stock sample project Jul 06 05:30:24 This path is wrong Jul 06 05:30:44 will hand edit Jul 06 05:31:01 Error454: I just sent you an IPK to an app I *know* works on a pre2 running enyo Jul 06 05:31:07 just tried it Jul 06 05:32:24 ok, I think this StyleMatters sample has other file references that are causing problems Jul 06 05:32:45 try installing the IPK I sent u Jul 06 05:32:55 that is a new app that is in beta Jul 06 05:33:04 installing now Jul 06 05:33:08 but I know works on the pre2 Jul 06 05:33:24 I install it many times a day when trying to work out bugs haha Jul 06 05:33:28 ok Jul 06 05:33:38 ok, so this tells me I installed the enyo framework incorrectly Jul 06 05:33:56 launch=debug uses uncompressed source Jul 06 05:33:57 hmm.. howso? the app doesn't work? Jul 06 05:34:02 what do the logs say? Jul 06 05:34:29 enyo is not defined Jul 06 05:35:12 for the keyboard error? Jul 06 05:35:35 is your enyo.js in /usr/palm/frameworks/enyo/ ? Mine is in /usr/palm/frameworks/enyo/0.10/framework/enyo/ Jul 06 05:36:45 its in /usr/palm/frameworks/enyo/0.10/framework/enyo.js Jul 06 05:38:11 booyah Jul 06 05:38:17 work? Jul 06 05:38:17 that did the trick Jul 06 05:38:23 ok good! :D Jul 06 05:38:30 runs fine now? Jul 06 05:39:32 Your app runs fine Jul 06 05:39:33 now that that's fixed, I'm off to bed Jul 06 05:39:35 night all Jul 06 05:39:39 Thanks a bunch Patrick Jul 06 05:39:41 PatrickC: night Jul 06 05:39:47 np Error454 Jul 06 05:39:50 night LoneStar99 Jul 06 05:43:20 Anyone know what's up with this setManualKeyboardEnabled error? Jul 06 05:47:45 what's the error? Jul 06 05:48:31 [object Object] has no method setManualKeyboardEnabled in enyo-build Jul 06 05:48:45 ah damn it Jul 06 05:48:55 are you running enyo on not a touchpad? Jul 06 05:49:02 On the Pre2 Jul 06 05:49:05 yeah... Jul 06 05:49:20 you'd have to patch for that Jul 06 05:49:33 that's a control for virtual keyboard Jul 06 05:49:47 is there a patch available anywhere? Jul 06 05:49:54 not that I'm aware of Jul 06 05:50:18 is there a certain Kind that triggers it? Jul 06 05:50:20 Error454: just a tip - if you're reporting an error on something which is non-standard, you should always include the non-standard context when you report the error Jul 06 05:50:31 though enyo is coming for pre3, so it will have a fixed copy in there Jul 06 05:50:42 Error454: yeah, inputs Jul 06 05:50:51 rwhitby: point taken Jul 06 05:51:07 azakus: So if I remove all my inputs, for testing, I can at least see how it renders? Jul 06 05:51:12 where can i find a list of all "kinds" in enyo? Jul 06 05:51:13 uh maybe Jul 06 05:51:44 richtexts too probably Jul 06 05:52:01 or monkeypatch a PalmSystem.setManualKeyboardEnabled = enyo.nop somewhere Jul 06 05:52:16 got 2 more things 2 figure out with enyo before i can upload my 1st eny app... Jul 06 05:53:00 LoneStar99: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/enyo/enyo-api-reference.html Jul 06 05:53:23 azakus: Thanks for your help. Jul 06 05:53:26 np Jul 06 05:53:53 I'm not quite convinced that my enyo app will be useable at all when rendered on a phone. Jul 06 05:54:30 it's not a supported platform yet Jul 06 05:54:45 azakus: OK THANKS Jul 06 05:54:57 I understand that, I'm just thinking of sliding panes in a portrait view Jul 06 05:55:16 LoneStar99: NP Jul 06 05:55:31 azakus: you know if i have a hard coded div id i can somehow have enyo listen for an onclick of div? Jul 06 05:55:48 you can always set the dom's onclick Jul 06 05:56:44 essentially a {kind: "enyo.Control"} is just a
anyway Jul 06 05:57:15 hmmm... trying to figure it out... Jul 06 05:57:57 azakus: i posted this question --> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=15993 Jul 06 05:58:39 oh lame, can't read that one Jul 06 05:59:00 * azakus needs to remind chuq to make his account all special Jul 06 05:59:13 azakus: LOL Jul 06 06:01:37 azakus: i have this and it works --> {kind: "Image", src: "icon.png", className: "c-vw", onclick: "openCan"}, but need the same with hardcoded div ID Jul 06 06:03:17 do you have some
somwhere Jul 06 06:03:40 document.querySelector("foo").onclick = enyo.bind(this, "clickForFooHandler") Jul 06 06:04:40 that should probably do it Jul 06 06:05:19 azakus: i have "
" Jul 06 06:05:57 same thing Jul 06 06:06:10 ok cool Jul 06 06:07:31 azakus: "clickForFooHandler" would be function name? Jul 06 06:11:27 yes Jul 06 06:11:41 ok cool let me try that Jul 06 06:21:47 azakus: document.getElementById("ic-ts").onclick = enyo.bind(this, "openCan"); worked Jul 06 06:21:53 thanks Jul 06 06:22:09 np Jul 06 06:56:41 alright folks chat later gonna get some shut eye for a few hours Jul 06 07:11:48 morning Jul 06 07:17:48 good morning swisstomcat! Jul 06 07:21:29 well I'm out, later Jul 06 07:21:43 http://quietube.com/ <- best thing I have seen on the internets today Jul 06 07:22:41 morning dkirker Jul 06 07:24:03 it is about time that Universe get an update... Jul 06 07:24:08 * dkirker is working on that Jul 06 07:25:18 akanster: no real reason to let that guy know what you're watching... just s#www.youtube.com/watch?v=#www.youtube.com/v/# in a bookmarklet Jul 06 07:28:03 it's typically not the video sites with the worst offenders anyways... blogs, reddit, cnn... etc Jul 06 09:26:10 yeah, 240 downloads already Jul 06 09:29:21 paid or free app? Jul 06 09:30:57 free Beta-version Jul 06 10:17:09 Hi there... Jul 06 10:18:05 Is there a way to publish the methods defined in a kind? I remember seeing it somewhere but don't remember how to do it... The idea is to make the methods accessible to other objects... Jul 06 10:59:25 they're always public, aren't they? Jul 06 12:05:04 rehi Jul 06 12:07:48 hi swisstomcat Jul 06 12:07:59 swisstomcat, tweeted you about the .nl devices Jul 06 12:15:51 ok, what's up with the app sales reports? Jul 06 12:16:46 10 dls on Jul 2, 10 failed transactions Jul 06 12:16:57 6 dls on Jul 3, 6 failed transactions Jul 06 12:17:38 8 dls on Jul 4, 2 My Promo, 2 HP Promo, 2 failed transactions. Jul 06 12:17:47 and I've never created a promo code. Jul 06 12:17:54 is this stuff just broken? Jul 06 12:17:59 hi simpsonTP Jul 06 12:18:03 no answer yet, sorry Jul 06 12:18:20 hmm /me felt left in the cold Jul 06 12:21:58 yes, it appears from the forums that it's still just broken. How difficult is this? Jul 06 14:09:35 * PatrickC walks in Jul 06 15:02:19 morning folks Jul 06 15:02:30 Morning Jul 06 15:03:42 It's 8am in palm land, do you know where your dev device email is? Jul 06 15:04:15 ctladvance, mine got lost Jul 06 15:07:26 mornin all Jul 06 15:07:33 ctladvance: lol Jul 06 15:09:02 one more thing to add before 1st enyo app is submitted =) Jul 06 15:09:37 * PatrickC has just released 0.0.1 of his app.. Jul 06 15:09:46 its far away from being ready :D Jul 06 15:09:54 cwayne: get it installed? Jul 06 15:12:15 protip: don't call popScene on the only scene on the stack Jul 06 15:12:34 lol Jul 06 15:12:39 PatrickC: sorry, busy with work Jul 06 15:12:49 that's fine Jul 06 15:16:40 weeeeee! Jul 06 15:16:48 what? Jul 06 15:17:17 less than 4 hours till super secret action plan commences Jul 06 15:17:32 * PatrickC wants to know what said plan is.. Jul 06 15:18:00 nein! Jul 06 15:18:37 * PatrickC wonders is halfhalo is Russian.. :P Jul 06 15:18:45 nobody knows until its done! Jul 06 15:20:25 and nein is german. niet is russian. Jul 06 15:20:35 lol Jul 06 15:22:33 people these days... don't even know what no is in other languages Jul 06 15:22:39 nein is no in german. I know that cus of heavyweights Jul 06 15:22:41 * funkatron shakes head Jul 06 15:23:27 lol Jul 06 15:24:32 according to google "no" in french is "Nous nous rendons". heh Jul 06 15:24:44 that's a long no.. lol Jul 06 15:25:57 没 Jul 06 15:26:03 * halfhalo waits till someone googles what he put Jul 06 15:26:36 "we go"? Jul 06 15:26:37 no in spanish is no Jul 06 15:27:45 halfhalo: that doesnt make any sense Jul 06 15:28:00 it should be "we surrender" Jul 06 15:28:34 lol Jul 06 15:28:51 hahahahaah Jul 06 15:29:56 now to do some brainstorming for UI for my google reader app Jul 06 15:30:09 blink tags. thats all you need Jul 06 15:30:15 marquee tags Jul 06 15:30:19 YES Jul 06 15:30:32 make it geocities Jul 06 15:30:54 Tibfib: google reader is just a RSS reader? isn't it? Jul 06 15:31:00 yep Jul 06 15:31:04 rss reader with UNICORNS Jul 06 15:31:08 I already have a RSS reader done its easy to make Jul 06 15:31:11 :) Jul 06 15:31:17 awesome. Jul 06 15:31:25 sliding panes, checks the link before it adds it to favs, etc. Jul 06 15:31:28 except that RSS is really not standardized around the output Jul 06 15:32:02 so Google Reader deals with all the rss cruft, and provides an api Jul 06 15:32:15 https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/extended_enyo_tutorial.html Jul 06 15:32:15 so "just an rsss reader" is a little bit... understated Jul 06 15:32:23 there's some good UI there for starters Jul 06 15:32:31 PatrickC: thanks, but I'm doing something a bit more advanced than that. Jul 06 15:32:35 I don't use Google Reader.. Jul 06 15:32:49 Tibfib: ok, just some UI basic that works good Jul 06 15:32:56 I know how to do UI bro. Jul 06 15:33:00 ok.. Jul 06 15:33:11 I can do the standard enyo one easy Jul 06 15:33:16 I'm brainstorming a better UI Jul 06 15:33:44 ah Jul 06 15:33:50 good luck! Jul 06 15:34:06 * PatrickC needs a better UI.. Jul 06 15:34:14 now that the apps out.. I can work on UI Jul 06 15:35:15 http://beckism.com/2011/07/webos-mojo-to-enyo/ Jul 06 15:38:48 need to reset a scene with some sort of command with enyo... anyone... Jul 06 15:39:47 http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/hp-touchpad-16gb/4864-3126_7-34499289.html?messageID=10119573&ref=nf Jul 06 15:39:53 check out my TOUCHPAD review Jul 06 15:41:13 Check out my dev device email review! Wait :) Jul 06 15:41:24 * Tibfib is waiting tooo... Jul 06 15:41:37 fxspec06: haha Jul 06 15:42:17 "Removed the Apple logo and replaced with HP" lol Jul 06 15:42:27 ctladvance: don't even kid lol Jul 06 15:42:31 lol Jul 06 15:43:17 fxspec06: very nice, sound like some some chinese dude bought the iPad 3 Jul 06 15:43:21 fxspec06: get enyo installed Jul 06 15:43:29 lmao Jul 06 15:43:30 okay Jul 06 15:44:02 I ment to put a ? there :) Jul 06 15:44:07 it was a question ;) Jul 06 15:44:09 oh Jul 06 15:44:14 lol Jul 06 15:44:18 no i was making the review Jul 06 15:44:27 GET ENYO INSTALLED NOW! Jul 06 15:44:28 Thanks to for update, this is best yet Only problem is when I pushed man from hotel I accidentally dropped TouchPad as well and survive drop it did not. Would like to make better for next version Jul 06 15:44:32 * PatrickC hides Jul 06 15:44:34 Lol Jul 06 15:44:40 Nice review Jul 06 15:44:46 ctladvance: that whole review is amazing hahahhaa Jul 06 15:44:54 lol Jul 06 15:45:31 is enyo copying to enyo clipboard as simple as 'setClipboard("Your Momma's Pancakes??")' ?? Jul 06 15:45:55 * PatrickC says "EMAIL PALM!" Jul 06 15:47:21 I agree with patrickC - Let us all email Chuq for dev device! Jul 06 15:47:51 FLOOD HIS EMAILS! Jul 06 15:48:23 because they made us wait an extra day, the touchpad should be free! Jul 06 15:49:39 Yes what pat said Jul 06 15:49:52 hah Jul 06 15:51:08 summatusmentis, I've been looking at doing a simple google reader client--the main thing I wanted to add to the deal was caching of function calls Jul 06 15:51:27 i sort of think such a framework would be useful for any app Jul 06 15:51:39 caching of function calls? Jul 06 15:51:42 yeah Jul 06 15:51:43 so Jul 06 15:51:47 I click star on an item Jul 06 15:51:53 and instead of immediately calling google Jul 06 15:52:00 as in, building up a buffer locally, and then sending them all at once? Jul 06 15:52:00 it queues the call Jul 06 15:52:18 huh, interesting Jul 06 15:52:27 My first order of business will be an email Chuq pad app Jul 06 15:52:35 and if the internet is not available, it says "Woops, it looks like you don't have a connection. Don't worry though, we'll take care of it as soon as you're back online." Jul 06 15:52:45 if you get that working, you should open-source it and put it on github pigsflew :) Jul 06 15:52:47 and you can keep going, queuing up calls as you like Jul 06 15:52:52 :) Jul 06 15:52:59 Then will deploy on iOS and android for laughs Jul 06 15:53:11 ctladvance: chuqpad Jul 06 15:53:55 "The ChuqPad, revolutionary in the Tablet industry! Jul 06 15:54:43 " Jul 06 15:55:40 he reason this came to me is because i ride the train to work, and love google reader Jul 06 15:56:19 but on current apps if i try to do something between stations, they usually throw up a modal box that says "An internet connection is required for this app" or something similar Jul 06 15:56:30 and don't let me keep viewing what's already been loaded Jul 06 15:56:34 or maintain my state Jul 06 15:56:47 yeah, that's true Jul 06 15:56:49 interesting Jul 06 15:57:44 you know Jul 06 15:57:45 actually Jul 06 15:58:00 it'd probably not be that hard to make a simple connection required queue Jul 06 15:58:40 enqueue would take two vars, one would be the function to call when a connection is available (or queue if not) and the other would be the call to make if the internet is not available right now Jul 06 15:59:14 the second call would be for maintaining internal status, like a 'flushed' bit Jul 06 15:59:44 NuttyBunny: hey! Jul 06 15:59:49 awesome article by ianbeck - http://beckism.com/2011/07/webos-mojo-to-enyo/ Jul 06 16:00:00 ls Jul 06 16:00:04 help.. node.js.. howto? :( Jul 06 16:00:11 haha wrong window Jul 06 16:00:54 "ls" haha Jul 06 16:00:56 rm -rf / Jul 06 16:01:08 hahaha Jul 06 16:02:28 You are about to destroy your whole filesystem! Continue? (yes/no) Jul 06 16:02:47 as a matter of fact, it won't ask you Jul 06 16:02:51 nope Jul 06 16:03:01 noooooooode! Jul 06 16:03:02 I know it wont.. I was making a joke lol Jul 06 16:03:10 halfhalo is a beast at node Jul 06 16:03:12 halfhalo: node! help! Jul 06 16:03:27 !!! Jul 06 16:03:29 bbl Jul 06 16:04:21 hey chuqui ! Jul 06 16:04:29 uh oh. chuqui, you've made a grave mistake Jul 06 16:04:37 * Tibfib hands chuqui a shield Jul 06 16:04:40 what, log into IRC? Jul 06 16:04:43 Hi Chuquisaca Jul 06 16:04:50 Wtf Jul 06 16:04:59 Damn auto correct Jul 06 16:05:04 LOL Jul 06 16:05:15 What language was that in? Jul 06 16:05:29 Not sure Jul 06 16:07:29 * ctladvance is tempted to ping chiquis Jul 06 16:07:37 :D Jul 06 16:07:52 * Tibfib too Jul 06 16:08:02 I shouldn't have given him a shield. Jul 06 16:08:16 and a good morning to you all... Jul 06 16:08:32 chuqui: good morning :) Jul 06 16:08:44 chuqui: we're all itching for our touchpads Jul 06 16:08:52 * fxspec06 thinks everyone should read my review of the touchpad -- http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/hp-touchpad-16gb/4864-3126_7-34499289.html?messageID=10119573&ref=nf Jul 06 16:09:00 * fxspec06 *his Jul 06 16:09:34 Morning chuqui San Jul 06 16:10:23 CHUQUI BROHEIM Jul 06 16:10:26 did i do it right? Jul 06 16:10:37 touchpads for ALL! Jul 06 16:10:39 Tibfib: sent out the first batch of emails on the new programs yesterday. will send out more today. so we're getting people started into the process. Jul 06 16:10:40 man is he going to be pissed at all the bells we're setting off... Jul 06 16:10:51 dcousineau: why my computers are all muted. Jul 06 16:10:58 chuqui: ;) Jul 06 16:11:08 don't blame you given how whiney I/we get :P Jul 06 16:11:10 fxspec06: your review is plastered with Samsung Galaxy Tab ads :( Jul 06 16:11:21 dcousineau: this is whiney? I hadn't noticed. Jul 06 16:11:40 * halfhalo pokes his veer "its dead jim" Jul 06 16:11:47 chuqui: are these going first come first served or most recent in inbox :) Jul 06 16:12:17 or are you starting with peeps most likely to be higher belt ranks? Jul 06 16:12:24 neither. I'm randomizing it, just to piss everyone off equally. Jul 06 16:12:26 Shall we send more to get on the list? Jul 06 16:12:32 Lol Jul 06 16:12:35 I think they probably wrote a script. SELECT * FROM emails WHERE user IS NOT ctladvance ORDER BY RAND() Jul 06 16:12:38 ninja belt Jul 06 16:12:46 its alphabetically by mothers maiden name Jul 06 16:12:47 Prob Jul 06 16:12:59 chuqui: tricky tricky Jul 06 16:13:01 thank god my grandad's last name is 1111AAAAA Jul 06 16:13:07 haahaha Jul 06 16:13:15 chuqui: I didn't receive mine... you should move me up in the random pool :P Jul 06 16:13:15 I've been asking since November, and chuq has been telling me no since then :) Jul 06 16:13:39 * Tibfib slides chuqui a cookie as an incentive Jul 06 16:14:02 * NuttyBunny reminds chuqui that he said happy birthday on fb ;) Jul 06 16:14:09 oh come on Jul 06 16:14:09 * ctladvance slides chuq a roll of film, kids grime Jul 06 16:14:15 Kodachrome Jul 06 16:14:18 Fail Jul 06 16:15:12 note to self Jul 06 16:15:18 get a job being a community rep for a new device Jul 06 16:15:20 take bribes Jul 06 16:15:21 profit Jul 06 16:15:39 +12 Jul 06 16:15:43 That's a conflict of interest, plan fail Jul 06 16:15:59 what if your only interested in bribes? WHAT THEN? Jul 06 16:16:06 no conflict = win Jul 06 16:16:56 I see no problem with my plan Jul 06 16:17:02 but I don't have chuqui's integrity Jul 06 16:17:07 chuqui: I'm no longer receiving your MW requests BTW :) Jul 06 16:17:44 chuqui has integrity? :cmon: Jul 06 16:17:57 not when you slide him cookies Jul 06 16:18:03 his kryptonite. Jul 06 16:19:55 funkatron: listen to funky. he's right. Jul 06 16:20:14 funkatron should listen to himself? Jul 06 16:20:36 Tibfib: funkatron doesn't believe in listening to himself Jul 06 16:20:50 haha Jul 06 16:20:52 but what is self, anyway? Jul 06 16:21:06 self is a reference to this in js. Jul 06 16:22:50 I prefer that Jul 06 16:24:06 rwhitby: ninja Jul 06 16:26:28 wirc seems buggy lately... Jul 06 16:26:39 has anyone used enyo copy to clipboard? Jul 06 16:27:19 enyo.setClipboard(inText) Jul 06 16:27:49 I think Jul 06 16:28:00 it might be enyo.dom.setClipboard() Jul 06 16:28:03 but I'm not sure Jul 06 16:28:05 see the api docs Jul 06 16:28:09 under the dom file Jul 06 16:29:42 Tibfib: is that is? Jul 06 16:29:59 is what it? Jul 06 16:30:45 LoneStar99: we do in spaz Jul 06 16:30:51 just look at our source code Jul 06 16:30:56 oh yeah, we do Jul 06 16:31:00 :D Jul 06 16:31:16 we do many things in spaz source Jul 06 16:31:18 some of them silly Jul 06 16:31:23 that's true Jul 06 16:31:23 some of them magical. Jul 06 16:31:39 dcousineau: do you wanna get in on the cotweet stuff for Twitter user support? Jul 06 16:31:53 cotweet? Jul 06 16:31:58 quite possibly Jul 06 16:32:02 http://cotweet.com/ Jul 06 16:32:09 are you at gmail? Jul 06 16:32:17 we are using another twitter app to respond to our users about our twitter app Jul 06 16:32:18 >.< Jul 06 16:32:24 lol Jul 06 16:32:29 basically Jul 06 16:32:32 it's a tool bro. a tool Jul 06 16:32:41 *shrug* spaz isn't a support tool Jul 06 16:32:44 Yeah, if coTweet was just like spaz Jul 06 16:32:46 this would be dumb Jul 06 16:32:49 but it's designed for it Jul 06 16:32:52 I'm a support tool Jul 06 16:32:53 funkatron: yeah same gmail Jul 06 16:33:01 funkatron: had that since you got 10 invites and that was it Jul 06 16:33:01 dcousineau: spaz is like a depository of code every function in the code some way or another Jul 06 16:33:26 english? Jul 06 16:33:30 hahh Jul 06 16:33:32 LoneStar99: that's a good summary Jul 06 16:33:50 spaz doesn't make a lot of sense either. Jul 06 16:33:50 Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? Jul 06 16:34:02 what ? Jul 06 16:34:07 ok perhaps this piece of code ain't in spaz, need to reset a scene, as if I closed the app and reopened again.... Jul 06 16:34:13 dcousineau: I am so confused Jul 06 16:34:25 dcousineau: that was emphatically not a sentence Jul 06 16:34:32 LoneStar99: it is in there. Jul 06 16:34:45 I think he was trying to communicate with LoneStar99 Jul 06 16:34:49 Tibfib: what are you serious? Jul 06 16:34:49 stupid Firefox... the checkbox for "warn me when about to close multiple tabs" is set! :@ Jul 06 16:35:09 :( Jul 06 16:35:09 LoneStar99: the code for setting to clipboard is in spaz. I don't know if that's what we are talking about anymore Jul 06 16:35:12 internet memes Jul 06 16:35:16 damn Jul 06 16:35:18 :cmon: Jul 06 16:35:35 dcousineau: sorry pal Jul 06 16:35:48 NO! NO APOLOGIES Jul 06 16:36:05 Tibfib: no i meant about "reseting a scene, as if I closed the app and reopened again"... oh wait i may have a work around Jul 06 16:36:07 "he's not your pal, frien" Jul 06 16:36:28 LoneStar: this.destroy(); this.create() MIGHT work Jul 06 16:36:31 but is a bad idea Jul 06 16:36:38 what's a "scene?" Jul 06 16:36:46 also a good point Jul 06 16:36:48 funkatron: "mojo" talk Jul 06 16:36:50 lol Jul 06 16:37:00 in mojo you could just swap the scene with itself Jul 06 16:37:05 ahh right Jul 06 16:37:13 i'm in on cotweet Jul 06 16:37:26 Tibfib: thinking of a work around... Jul 06 16:37:27 cool, so i'm now accepting astroturfing money to tweet over @spaz... Jul 06 16:37:31 nice Jul 06 16:38:04 dcousineau: do you have a touchpad? Jul 06 16:38:14 NOOOOOOOOO /cc chuqui Jul 06 16:38:26 dcousineau: ah, in my boat then Jul 06 16:38:30 dcousineau: WHO AWAKENS THE KRAKEN? Jul 06 16:38:30 fun facts: san diego is the 5th most populated county in the country! Jul 06 16:38:32 ;) Jul 06 16:38:40 * dcousineau runs and hides Jul 06 16:38:47 san diego county that is Jul 06 16:38:51 chuqui: us spaz's need our touchpads Jul 06 16:38:54 cool beans, gonna be in san diego on the 20th Jul 06 16:38:56 yaaay work. Jul 06 16:39:03 I'm a white belt, sorry Jul 06 16:39:14 dcousineau: really work related? Jul 06 16:40:03 LoneStar99: my company does shit for AMC and so i'll be setting up equip and running a feed wall for AMC at one of their comicon afterparties Jul 06 16:40:05 hmm what's the proper plural form of spaz? Jul 06 16:40:07 spazes? Jul 06 16:40:09 spazs Jul 06 16:40:12 spazzes? Jul 06 16:40:19 spazzzzz Jul 06 16:40:20 just Spaz Jul 06 16:40:24 kinda like buffalo Jul 06 16:40:24 spazi Jul 06 16:40:42 We are spaz Jul 06 16:40:44 doesn't sound right. Jul 06 16:40:50 Spazeratti? Jul 06 16:41:03 HAH Jul 06 16:41:04 it's spazzes Jul 06 16:41:11 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spazzes Jul 06 16:41:19 WE ARE THE SPAZZES Jul 06 16:41:21 RESISTANCE IS FUTILE Jul 06 16:41:32 we could take this to #spaz Jul 06 16:41:33 but nope Jul 06 16:41:36 dcousineau: right on cool, may be back in SD by the 20th not sure... Jul 06 16:41:37 #webos is more fun Jul 06 16:41:55 * dcousineau runs off to take phone call Jul 06 16:42:06 * Tibfib trips dcousineau as he runs away Jul 06 16:42:53 what's best to use for simple 2d games: canvas or pdk? Jul 06 16:43:33 ok enyo confirmation dialog box anyone.... Jul 06 16:43:41 LoneStar: see the docs. Jul 06 16:43:45 simfa: wondering the samr thing Jul 06 16:43:49 I think we are going for canvas Jul 06 16:44:32 link to "enyo.ConfirmPrompt" is broken =( Jul 06 16:44:41 https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/enyo/enyo-api-reference.html#enyo.Component>enyo.Component
  • enyo.ModalDialog? Jul 06 16:45:33 thehodge: i thought the same, i hope canvas apps are not too slow Jul 06 16:53:30 http://www.sencha.com/blog/hp-touchpad-the-html5-developer-scorecard/ Jul 06 16:57:33 hey chuqui Jul 06 16:59:38 PatrickC: hey! Jul 06 16:59:50 anyone got a reply yet? Jul 06 16:59:53 * PatrickC hasnt.. Jul 06 16:59:57 chuqui :) Jul 06 17:00:34 Hi all :) Jul 06 17:00:46 hey ddluk Jul 06 17:01:09 PatrickC: for the loaner program, I got an email saying "we're passing this on to someone who will be able to give you more information" Jul 06 17:01:26 summatusmentis: I'm talking about discount Jul 06 17:01:39 I want to own one.. not play and then have it taken away :/ Jul 06 17:01:46 I hate supporting application. One user is writing to me that he want refund because he can't track his package on application. I check it on few devices and every thing is working ok. So what should I do. Have you got similar problems ? Jul 06 17:01:55 PatrickC: no, I know, I'm just saying Jul 06 17:01:56 maybe they can't decide if I'm a black belt :) Jul 06 17:01:59 ok Jul 06 17:02:32 ddluk: tell him that its not a wide spread error and will be looked into further Jul 06 17:02:40 and then push an update once its fixed Jul 06 17:02:51 I check his package and it's working :) Jul 06 17:03:11 then he might be lying trying to get the app free lol Jul 06 17:03:19 or it might have glitched for a moment Jul 06 17:03:56 probably the first one :) Jul 06 17:04:08 ddluk: i think he is lying too Jul 06 17:04:16 chuqui: are they emailing back on the discount program? and how do we find out what belt we are ? Jul 06 17:04:18 you can have him try to get a screenshot and e-mail it to you Jul 06 17:04:41 PatrickC: as I get folks started into the system, I'll be sending a confirmation on that. Jul 06 17:04:43 i think the key combination for a screenshot is orange+sym+p Jul 06 17:04:53 chuqui: ok Jul 06 17:04:58 that starts things. then the folks who manage the program will get going with you. Jul 06 17:05:00 maik: yep Jul 06 17:05:05 I sent him screenshot and I will see what he will reply, right know I get one star review Jul 06 17:05:06 chuqui: ok Jul 06 17:05:13 I got a bunch out yesterday, trying to get caught up today. Jul 06 17:05:35 ok Jul 06 17:05:47 and for all interested in oAuth on enyo, there is a solution https://github.com/ciaranj/node-oauth Jul 06 17:05:48 I didn't get one yesterday, so I'm hoping for today ;) Jul 06 17:06:05 ddluk: I might use that later.. but not yet :) Jul 06 17:06:16 I hear you can write JavaScript in Enyo now Jul 06 17:06:40 chuqui: any word on submitted app delays? Jul 06 17:06:41 na, that's absurd.. :P Jul 06 17:06:48 i'm assuming i'm not the only one who has an app waiting Jul 06 17:07:04 My update is also waiting, right now 5 days Jul 06 17:07:11 mine's been in since the 30th Jul 06 17:07:12 maik: we're working on it. app review team si running around like crazy whacking moles. Jul 06 17:07:27 ok, that's what i figured. just wanted to make sure i didn't slip through the cracks :) Jul 06 17:07:37 also, i have a mallet if that helps Jul 06 17:07:40 * PatrickC needs to get some feature requests implemented into his beta.. Jul 06 17:07:49 send email to pdc@ asking for status updates on any pending apps. But also realize, we took as much of the holiday off as we could, sice it was the first break for folks in weeks. so don't count the weekend as work days Jul 06 17:08:17 you guys can have the rest of the week off. go ahead and let everyone know Jul 06 17:09:01 maik: are you crazy?! they need to get emails out, then have a break ;) Jul 06 17:09:25 emails shmemails Jul 06 17:09:31 er...shemales? Jul 06 17:09:43 lol Jul 06 17:09:52 :D Jul 06 17:09:55 I need that email :) Jul 06 17:10:39 halfhalo-tp: tiny phone? you like the veer? :) Jul 06 17:10:52 tiny phone is dead Jul 06 17:11:01 :/ Jul 06 17:12:08 metaphorically or physically? Jul 06 17:12:14 like "you're dead to me, son!" Jul 06 17:12:16 physically Jul 06 17:12:19 :(( Jul 06 17:12:54 it got dropped a few times Jul 06 17:13:15 now its not wanting to make calls. and its white casing it cracked Jul 06 17:13:21 time to get an app menu working, then update goes out. Jul 06 17:14:20 * halfhalo-tp has eye which is killing him :( Jul 06 17:14:36 that stinks Jul 06 17:14:49 halfhalo-tp: is it time for the super-secret to be revealed????? Jul 06 17:15:00 1:20 at the earliest :p Jul 06 17:15:11 what time zone? :) Jul 06 17:15:20 I mean, one hour twenty to go Jul 06 17:15:20 its 1:11 EST ;) Jul 06 17:15:39 ooh, what's the super secret? Jul 06 17:16:25 secret for now Jul 06 17:16:59 if I initiate an app menu in my main stage, does that make the appmenu work throughout the app? Jul 06 17:17:35 halfhalo-tp: was rwhitby tweeting about it last night? Jul 06 17:17:47 no, that was something else Jul 06 17:18:04 oh Jul 06 17:19:17 Flashpass: get the app installed? Jul 06 17:19:55 PatrickC: not yet, been fairly busy lately :/ Jul 06 17:20:01 ok Jul 06 17:23:40 anyone use enyo.EditMenu ? Jul 06 17:24:52 wirc!!! Jul 06 17:25:59 chuqui: 12 hour workd days are unacceptable 15 is the goal including weekends and holidays! lol Jul 06 17:26:14 LoneStar99: YES! :D Jul 06 17:26:31 20 hours + free coffee Jul 06 17:26:43 foxcomm is the goal! Jul 06 17:26:57 how hard is it to integrate webos sugar (panels/ etc) while using traditional HTML to setup the views? Jul 06 17:27:35 spending the night at work is totally acceptable! Jul 06 17:27:47 night? week! Jul 06 17:28:10 PatrickC: right on the week! Jul 06 17:28:28 jaf0: mojo or enyo? Jul 06 17:28:33 PatrickC: dude, graduate HS and then tell me it's ok to work for a week straight, ugh. Jul 06 17:28:33 enyo Jul 06 17:28:39 LoneStar99: byte me. Jul 06 17:28:46 summatusmentis: lol Jul 06 17:28:50 chuqui: haha Jul 06 17:29:28 chuqui: whom do i report a broken link in api web reference? Jul 06 17:29:55 haeffb-pre: it's an app that functions on device via html files; want to use panels/etc. Jul 06 17:30:05 haeffb-pre: enyo Jul 06 17:30:22 LoneStar99: pdc@ Jul 06 17:30:29 look at kind: "HtmlContent" Jul 06 17:30:34 haeffb-pre: i'm sure its _possible_; but is it worth the efford.... Jul 06 17:31:13 k Jul 06 17:31:41 create panes, add an HtmlContent kind, insert your html, profit Jul 06 17:31:59 might be missing a step in there somewhere Jul 06 17:32:16 hmm. Jul 06 17:33:54 bye lol Jul 06 17:34:58 chuqui: singmajesty was going to look into whether it's possible to combine two dev accounts... Jul 06 17:35:14 haeffb-pre: at this point, no, it' snot. Jul 06 17:35:39 bummer, dude Jul 06 17:36:14 can I move my apps from one to the other? Jul 06 17:37:22 every time I see "NFC" I read "No Fucking Clue" Jul 06 17:37:32 lol Jul 06 17:39:44 app is ready for an update. will work on bigfix's next Jul 06 17:42:30 what about the littlefix's? they need love too... Jul 06 17:42:49 chuqui: how about changing username? Jul 06 17:42:52 what exactly are those fixes possessing? Jul 06 17:43:04 akanster: send an email to pdc with ther equest. Jul 06 17:43:19 thanks! Jul 06 17:45:40 haeffb-pre: lol Jul 06 17:45:53 funkatron: huh? Jul 06 17:46:01 grammar. Jul 06 17:46:26 I was never good at grammar lol Jul 06 17:47:10 indeed Jul 06 17:48:07 chuqui: You still haven't changed my email address... Jul 06 17:48:09 * Popple3 sulks Jul 06 17:48:11 :P Jul 06 17:48:36 Popple3: get the app installed? Jul 06 17:48:40 Popple3: sorry. send a fresh request to pdc. I think I have your request, but I want to amke sure it iddn't et misplaced. been busy. sorry. Jul 06 17:49:20 chuqui: It's cool. I figured you'd be busy with, you know, the TouchPad launch, new dev program, submissions for TouchPad promo, all your other daily stuff :P Jul 06 17:51:34 argg.. Jul 06 17:51:53 Popple3: yeah My inbox weeps. but I'm working on it. Jul 06 17:52:25 and sent Jul 06 17:52:34 PatrickC: I'm only just home, give me a chance :P Jul 06 17:52:52 Popple3: hehe ok Jul 06 17:55:05 <=15 business days until I get my dev discount for touchpad. Doh. Guess I should have expected that. Jul 06 17:56:32 Tibfib: ? Jul 06 17:56:41 got a response via email Jul 06 17:56:46 LIES Jul 06 17:56:56 I'll be contacted within 15 business days Jul 06 17:57:04 ah just got mine too Jul 06 17:57:10 yay Jul 06 17:57:14 moar wait time :) Jul 06 17:57:24 * Tibfib weeps at his lake of touchpad Jul 06 17:57:29 lack. Jul 06 17:57:32 and lake of touchapds. Jul 06 17:57:34 DANGIT Jul 06 17:57:38 * halfhalo-tp laughs evily Jul 06 18:00:19 Test Jul 06 18:00:26 Hmm Jul 06 18:00:43 you failed your test Jul 06 18:02:08 Or did I just pass it Jul 06 18:02:30 Along with a tp email Jul 06 18:02:58 in examples where can I find "enyo.ConfirmPrompt" ?? Jul 06 18:05:19 has anyone attempted morf.js on webos 2.x? Jul 06 18:23:06 found "enyo.ConfirmPrompt" example --> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/HP%20webOS/SDK/share/refcode/webos-framework/enyo/1.0/support/examples/Layouts/Popup/pane/index.html Jul 06 18:25:33 woo way to link to your computer Jul 06 18:25:35 ;) Jul 06 18:27:21 haha program files Jul 06 18:27:46 chuqui it's possible to change account from open source to normal account? Jul 06 18:28:09 boooo Jul 06 18:28:12 chuqui: it's possible to change account from open source to normal account? Jul 06 18:31:52 brap Jul 06 18:31:57 anyone wanna give me a touchpad Jul 06 18:32:17 chuqui: does Jul 06 18:32:25 oh, chuqui, got your email Jul 06 18:32:27 come to me Jul 06 18:32:46 and btw, someone tell precentral to get a new website Jul 06 18:32:46 t - 2 minutes till super secret timeframe Jul 06 18:32:48 its so ugly Jul 06 18:33:03 please let it be much less than 15 business days to get my discount coupon :( Jul 06 18:33:08 halfhalo-tp: super secret timeframe is starting to sound like "in the coming months" Jul 06 18:33:15 matbee: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Jul 06 18:33:27 timeframe ends in 2ish hours :p Jul 06 18:33:32 Popple3: oh crap, I sorta forgot about that thing Jul 06 18:33:45 summatusmentis: Did you email in at all? Jul 06 18:34:07 email in? no, do I have to request it? Jul 06 18:34:15 I haven't purchase a TP yet Jul 06 18:34:16 yup Jul 06 18:34:23 where? Jul 06 18:34:31 two secs, I'll find the detail Jul 06 18:34:33 *details Jul 06 18:34:41 https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developer_device_program.html Jul 06 18:34:50 oh wait, developer discount Jul 06 18:34:57 I thought you were talking about the legacy discount Jul 06 18:35:05 I don't qualify for developer discount Jul 06 18:35:12 Popple3: its 15 business days Jul 06 18:35:39 that's what he said Jul 06 18:35:41 Popple3> please let it be much less than 15 business days to get my discount coupon :( Jul 06 18:36:23 I assumed you'd done the math and figured out that there were 15 business days left for the legacy rebate Jul 06 18:36:43 really?! Jul 06 18:36:44 dang Jul 06 18:37:00 no, not really, I don't actually know Jul 06 18:37:12 I just thought that's what Popple3 was talking about Jul 06 18:37:19 but it is end of july Jul 06 18:37:25 for the legacy discount Jul 06 18:37:37 directed studiy Jul 06 18:37:39 study* Jul 06 18:38:50 er... ignore those last two lines, wrong window Jul 06 18:39:08 summatusmentis: Those two lines cannot be unseen Jul 06 18:39:16 DO IT Jul 06 18:39:17 lol Jul 06 18:39:57 summatusmentis: Have you got one of those things from Men In Black? Jul 06 18:40:13 wouldn't you like to know Jul 06 18:40:30 Yes, yes I would Jul 06 18:40:48 but what would happen if I used it so you forgot that I told you I had one? Jul 06 18:40:51 I N C E P T I O N Jul 06 18:41:01 how the hell is that inception? Jul 06 18:41:08 I don't know Jul 06 18:41:12 lol Jul 06 18:41:13 I just wanted to make an incpetion joke Jul 06 18:41:25 inception* Jul 06 18:41:31 summatusmentis: And you failed miserably. Congratulations :P Jul 06 18:41:40 ^5 Jul 06 18:41:47 we must go deeper Jul 06 18:42:04 hey, did someone here order pizza? Jul 06 18:42:28 halfhalo-tp: SUPER SEEKRIT Jul 06 18:43:39 does anyone use enyo.Popup ? Jul 06 18:44:00 spaz hd Jul 06 18:44:02 does Jul 06 18:44:13 bbllllllll Jul 06 18:44:16 cya Jul 06 18:44:28 is it me, or can most enyo questions be answered with "Spaz HD does it"? Jul 06 18:44:34 lol Jul 06 18:44:35 lol Jul 06 18:44:37 spaz hd does it Jul 06 18:44:39 spaz hd does it all Jul 06 18:48:43 * halfhalo-tp is 1/3rd done with super secret plan Jul 06 18:49:00 (except twitter lists apparently) Jul 06 18:49:08 halfhalo: wooo secret :D Jul 06 18:49:26 supar sekrit? Jul 06 18:49:51 halfhalo: its time! what is it Jul 06 18:50:01 its time when I'm done with plan Jul 06 18:50:26 FINISH PLAN Jul 06 18:50:35 I can't take the suspense anymore Jul 06 18:50:36 arg.. Jul 06 18:50:53 neither can I.... but I can't make it go anyfaster Jul 06 18:52:45 halfhalo: but I can.... Jul 06 18:52:48 * Popple3 takes out whip Jul 06 18:53:19 why won't this work.... Jul 06 18:54:24 source code: it's useful Jul 06 18:54:34 lies Jul 06 18:54:35 lies Jul 06 18:54:46 >:( Jul 06 18:54:49 you beat me halfhalo Jul 06 18:54:54 let me try this.. and if it doesnt work, I'll paste it Jul 06 18:54:55 AS ALWAYS Jul 06 18:55:00 I was gonna say it's true, but now I'm doubting it :/ Jul 06 18:55:02 * summatusmentis cringes Jul 06 18:57:42 here are the kinds: http://pastebin.com/Crq2GLe0 Jul 06 18:58:25 and here is he underlying code: http://pastebin.com/2b8SKpUF Jul 06 18:58:42 so how do I create a checkbox in enyo that defaults to checked? Jul 06 18:58:49 patrick! Jul 06 18:59:01 I'm trying to make it when someone clicks a button, it does a popup Jul 06 18:59:09 onclinck.... heh Jul 06 18:59:09 sounds so simple Jul 06 18:59:19 arg.. Jul 06 18:59:30 thanks halfhalo haha Jul 06 19:00:43 oh shit coupons are being mailed out? Jul 06 19:01:32 yeah Jul 06 19:01:35 in 15 days :/ Jul 06 19:01:51 *within Jul 06 19:01:52 OMFG 15 days Jul 06 19:01:59 not sure what address I have on file... Jul 06 19:02:01 WERE ALL GONNA DIE Jul 06 19:02:01 Within 15 business days Jul 06 19:02:05 wait, mailing? Jul 06 19:02:07 what? Jul 06 19:02:11 computers. Jul 06 19:02:28 I hear computers can process discounts these days Jul 06 19:02:35 lol Jul 06 19:02:45 * fxspec06 is definitely gonna die Jul 06 19:03:01 fxspec06: well, we all are eventually Jul 06 19:03:15 well, except me, I'll discover immortality Jul 06 19:03:19 * Loudergood now doesn't feel as bad about spending his tp funds on something that doesn't work Jul 06 19:03:23 latest medical research proves that being alive is bad for your health Jul 06 19:03:27 do the coupons all very in %? Jul 06 19:03:43 everyone gets 25% Jul 06 19:03:48 black belts get more Jul 06 19:03:57 and having 10+ apps gets you more Jul 06 19:04:06 +10% if you've had an app in the catalog for > 2 years Jul 06 19:04:10 * halfhalo sits and waits Jul 06 19:04:19 right, thanks Jul 06 19:04:56 nice, how do we know where we fall? cuss i should get almost every discount =) Jul 06 19:04:58 what discount do you get if the TouchPad had a Twitter app at launch because of you? Jul 06 19:05:09 LoneStar99: there be a web page with details Jul 06 19:05:17 25% plus the others Jul 06 19:05:32 funkatron: Nothing because you destroyed productivity on the TouchPad Jul 06 19:05:32 ' Jul 06 19:05:32 no special 'tp app at launch' discount i don't think Jul 06 19:05:35 :P Jul 06 19:05:56 yeah i saw it, to me I am a blackbelt or 97% there, but to HP|Palm not sure... Jul 06 19:06:14 LoneStar: Rod Whitby is a greenbelt Jul 06 19:06:24 just to put things in perspective Jul 06 19:06:26 Me n Rod are Ninjitsu Jul 06 19:06:39 thanks to halfhalo, there is now *another* update for my app :D Jul 06 19:07:48 PatrickC: if you keep putting out updates, imma have to smack you with a fish! Jul 06 19:07:55 haha Jul 06 19:07:55 lol Jul 06 19:07:58 * fxspec06 saw that on jerry springer yesterday Jul 06 19:07:59 updates are good! Jul 06 19:08:18 fxspec06: someone seriously got smacked with a fish? haha Jul 06 19:08:27 lol yeah Jul 06 19:08:31 not on the show Jul 06 19:08:37 but this girl did it to this guy Jul 06 19:08:50 haha awesome Jul 06 19:08:53 and his job at work was castrating cows Jul 06 19:09:09 fxspec06: have built 10+ apps, some apps since Nov. 2009, some apps have 16,000+ downloads, some have sold 400+, have contributed to code samples, IRC, foums etc... Jul 06 19:09:39 just missing some sort of certification =) and a killer app =) Jul 06 19:10:28 btw some of my apps have been bombs but oh well, it is the thought that counts... Jul 06 19:10:58 nowhere does it say that it needs to be killer Jul 06 19:11:25 just that you had 10 in before this date two years ago Jul 06 19:11:30 yeah, i know but a killer app would help my pocket =) Jul 06 19:11:33 so if you had 9 on july 6 Jul 06 19:11:39 :) Jul 06 19:11:43 and your 10th you submitted on the 20th Jul 06 19:11:49 wait til the 20th and you are black belt Jul 06 19:11:53 (i presume) Jul 06 19:12:11 oh maybe not =( oh well I am white belt with a yellow stripe Jul 06 19:14:06 anyhow, time to get this app out the door, need to implement a ConfirmPrompt and 1.0.0 is ready +0 Jul 06 19:14:08 =) Jul 06 19:14:29 LoneStar99: I think that makes you Black Lightning Jul 06 19:14:36 god bless meetings... Jul 06 19:15:05 http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/dccomics/blacklightning/BLY1-Cv1b_sm.jpg Jul 06 19:15:19 chuqui: was it about me? :) Jul 06 19:15:38 PatrickC: better hope not Jul 06 19:15:46 lol Jul 06 19:16:01 funkatron: lol or White Lighting Jul 06 19:16:22 either way Jul 06 19:18:08 "I live inside Pane View #1 and will close when it closes." Got it! Jul 06 19:21:35 lol Jul 06 19:22:07 halfhalo: moar seekrit Jul 06 19:26:09 bbl Jul 06 19:26:16 gonna go drive in the rain! fun! lol Jul 06 19:31:54 omg Jul 06 19:32:01 HP_Touchpad just mentioned me on twitter! Jul 06 19:32:02 lol Jul 06 19:32:21 i have no idea why Jul 06 19:32:27 * fxspec06 now has enyo installed on his phone Jul 06 19:33:54 NOT POSSIBEL. Jul 06 19:34:10 2/3rd done! Jul 06 19:34:34 is too! Jul 06 19:35:40 gotta say.. it's........ nice =) Jul 06 19:36:35 except it doesn't scroll, we've jeard Jul 06 19:36:44 wirc is tormenting me today Jul 06 19:38:29 channels just freezing? Jul 06 19:39:14 disconnecting w/o telling me Jul 06 19:39:26 and keeps doing it Jul 06 19:43:45 haeffb - yeah happened to me too Jul 06 19:43:50 the other day Jul 06 19:47:26 * haeffb-pre blames oil Jul 06 19:48:50 I heard somebody would port his microblogging app back to phones from the TouchPad if he could just include Enyo in the app Jul 06 20:12:20 halfhalo: status? Jul 06 20:12:29 2/3rd done :p Jul 06 20:13:21 well, more like 9/10th's done Jul 06 20:13:29 * Loudergood is guessing halfhalo needs a faster internet connection Jul 06 20:13:46 no, just need another phone call Jul 06 20:14:34 * summatusmentis calls halfhalo Jul 06 20:14:42 there, now tell Jul 06 20:15:39 no, special phone call from 408 xxx-xxxx Jul 06 20:17:13 San Jose? Jul 06 20:17:19 ish Jul 06 20:17:31 * halfhalo whistles Jul 06 20:18:05 ah, noted Jul 06 20:18:11 maps are hard Jul 06 20:22:35 halfhalo gets call "we've decided to go another direction" Jul 06 20:23:25 boo! Jul 06 20:23:29 yea, 408 is sunnyvale-ish ;) Jul 06 20:24:00 dwc-: yeah, after I looked at the map I realized sunnyvale was right next to San Jose Jul 06 20:24:00 then you'll get bombarded with questions like chuqui/dkirker/Adora/etc Jul 06 20:24:42 bah Jul 06 20:24:57 jorb? Jul 06 20:27:14 no, they're calling him to get him to stop and go away Jul 06 20:27:31 mebe Jul 06 20:27:36 well, maybe they're calling him about something else Jul 06 20:27:49 like, maybe chuq thinks he's cute or something Jul 06 20:28:15 "do u like me? mark yes, maybe, or no" Jul 06 20:28:20 :D Jul 06 20:29:12 halfhalo: close to being done? :) Jul 06 20:29:53 mebe Jul 06 20:30:58 is there a way to have a stage only show on first-run with enyo? Jul 06 20:31:35 I remember it had to be done in the stage-assistant for mojo Jul 06 20:31:59 enyo has no stages Jul 06 20:32:17 pane, or whatever a scene is now.. :) Jul 06 20:32:36 there really isnt an equvelent Jul 06 20:33:02 so its not possible? or just harder? Jul 06 20:33:31 well, there's probably logic for "only show on first run" Jul 06 20:33:51 I know that the wosi mojo apps did it, but I don't have a tp to test the enyo ones Jul 06 20:35:08 Popple3: ping! Jul 06 20:38:38 and.. I now have like 3 or 4 palm employees on my beta team :D Jul 06 20:40:40 it'd be neat to work for palm Jul 06 20:40:51 it would Jul 06 20:41:14 yeah Jul 06 20:41:24 I wonder if they hire for research internships at the grad student level Jul 06 20:41:30 but.. I don't think they hire 15 year olds... lol Jul 06 20:41:37 definitely ot Jul 06 20:41:41 not* Jul 06 20:42:07 PatrickC: you can do anything in enyo Jul 06 20:42:23 haeffb: but how? idk how.. Jul 06 20:42:24 s/can/may/ Jul 06 20:42:42 yeah, that's potentially an issue Jul 06 20:43:22 can you just store a cookie on wheather it has been shown or not? Jul 06 20:43:24 do you know how? Jul 06 20:43:42 Flashpass: how do you tell it what stage/scene/pane to pass though? Jul 06 20:43:48 that is decided in HTML Jul 06 20:43:48 no, but I could probably figure it out by reading the documentation and examples Jul 06 20:44:07 eh, who needs documentation when you have IRC ;) Jul 06 20:44:09 PatrickC: look in your index.html Jul 06 20:44:19 yeah, and? Jul 06 20:44:31 anyone who abuses IRC rather than finding answers themselves Jul 06 20:44:44 what does your index.html DO ? Jul 06 20:44:44 haha "Candidate must be currently enrolled, and pursuing a B.S. or higher degree in _______________ or a related field." for their interface design internship Jul 06 20:44:55 I was kidding.. I use documentation most the time Jul 06 20:45:08 haeffb: initiates the scene iirc Jul 06 20:45:11 I can paste it Jul 06 20:45:17 did you look at it? Jul 06 20:45:21 yeah Jul 06 20:45:33 but I'm not good with stuff like that.. I need examples Jul 06 20:45:33 Intern - WebOS Performance Team Jul 06 20:45:36 so, it creates a kind, right? Jul 06 20:45:50 We will consider all applicants, but those in terms before 2B and not taking CE, EE, CS, or SWEng will have to really impress us with work outside of their degree and classes. Jul 06 20:45:51 yeah Jul 06 20:46:14 there, you can fix all those syslog spams Jul 06 20:46:16 or, more accurately, renders a kind Jul 06 20:46:39