**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 02:59:57 2011 Jul 12 03:03:13 got it. Thanks! Jul 12 03:04:57 why does my splashicon no longer show up? Jul 12 03:05:01 the irony, can't use touchpad to sign in to dev portal... Jul 12 03:05:56 any enyo developers here? Jul 12 03:06:31 is there an enyo-way of applying animations to controls, specifically fade in/out instead of simple show/hide? Jul 12 03:06:46 * haeffb just signed into the dev portal on the TP Jul 12 03:07:13 wah, keyboard doesn't appear for me Jul 12 03:07:18 qillerneu: you probably want to use css transitions for that Jul 12 03:07:35 39 total downloads in 12 days. Jul 12 03:07:39 uhm, wait, it did, in landscape mode only... Jul 12 03:07:39 and 2 paid. Jul 12 03:08:01 maybe the pretty new icon will help Jul 12 03:08:06 haeffb, rollin' in the dough Jul 12 03:08:38 * NuttyBunny has 0 downloads in 0 days, does that count? ;) Jul 12 03:08:40 * haeffb should have never done that "crazy low introductory price" Jul 12 03:09:00 you should do the "in-app" buy the pro version Jul 12 03:09:04 2 * $0.99 * 0.70 = not enough for my morning cup o' joe Jul 12 03:09:29 NuttyBunny: limit 5 notes in the free version? Jul 12 03:09:34 doesn't mickey d's have $1 coffee? :p Jul 12 03:09:59 dwc, if you can find a cup in the trash its a free refill with a new cup Jul 12 03:10:11 meh. webOS devs are high rollers = we drink at Starbucks Jul 12 03:10:15 prefer to save the cup from yesterday Jul 12 03:10:16 i don't trust download counts anymore. one of mine has still the same number since the tp launch, yet manages to acquire reviews almost every day... Jul 12 03:10:29 OK, announcement announced. Jul 12 03:10:30 qillerneu: I write reviews all day long, for apps I don't have! Jul 12 03:10:37 lol Jul 12 03:10:42 haeffb: Sure, nice idea. I intend to leave image saving/sharing for the "pro" version Jul 12 03:10:47 roy-pre101: damn, I missed it...fires at work came up :/ Jul 12 03:10:54 what's the big news? Jul 12 03:10:55 grr, thought people have to buy one first :) Jul 12 03:10:55 saving/sharing/printing ;) Jul 12 03:11:14 sugardave: dammit. Jul 12 03:11:21 blame Kerris Jul 12 03:11:39 * haeffb needs to add printing. Don't have an HP printer to test. Think they'll send me a "testing device" ? Jul 12 03:11:44 * PatrickC walks in Jul 12 03:11:50 ... to a bar. wham. Jul 12 03:11:57 ow Jul 12 03:12:06 * NuttyBunny turns on the lights Jul 12 03:12:07 sugardave: did he get you to fix the disappearing sqlite bug? Jul 12 03:12:23 not that, no Jul 12 03:12:27 thx NuttyBunny Jul 12 03:13:36 darn Jul 12 03:13:36 does anyone know how I'm supposed to check reviews if I don't have a TP? (I think I know the answer but still worth asking) Jul 12 03:13:53 NuttyBunny: ask someone with a TP to look at them for you Jul 12 03:13:56 ask sugardave Jul 12 03:14:05 yes, sugardave has a TP Jul 12 03:14:22 or find a way to bypass activation on the emu :P Jul 12 03:14:35 hmm.. can you doctor the emu? lol Jul 12 03:14:43 sugardave: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.nuttybunny.photofunbeta <- go ;) Jul 12 03:15:10 sorry, mine points to a different server :D Jul 12 03:15:21 I bet you could figure out the api calls the app store makes and run that separately Jul 12 03:15:23 well well well Jul 12 03:15:48 NuttyBunny: make haeffb do it Jul 12 03:16:09 * haeffb quickly points to a different server Jul 12 03:16:12 yeah I wonder what people are saying about spaz hd in the catalog Jul 12 03:16:15 Announcement was I'll be leaving webOSroundup and joining HP on the 18th. Jul 12 03:16:19 * NuttyBunny mumbles better send me a TP to do it myself :P hehehe Jul 12 03:16:28 roy-pre101: I KNEW THAT! Jul 12 03:16:34 roy-pre101: WOOT! Jul 12 03:16:35 roy-pre101: NICE! Jul 12 03:16:38 congrats! Jul 12 03:16:49 * haeffb feels like the only webOS dev left that isn't working for HP Jul 12 03:16:54 :( Jul 12 03:17:02 except for the kids Jul 12 03:17:02 haeffb: Little secret: you are. Jul 12 03:17:04 haeffb: we gotta stick toegether Jul 12 03:17:12 haeffb: screw you. Jul 12 03:17:14 :) Jul 12 03:17:16 roy-pre101: awesome!!! Jul 12 03:17:17 :) Jul 12 03:17:31 haeffb: I'm not :) Jul 12 03:17:35 Finally someone will pay me to hang out in this IRC channel. ;) Jul 12 03:17:41 haha Jul 12 03:17:44 LOL Jul 12 03:17:45 roy-pre101: that's the life Jul 12 03:18:14 * haeffb was asked to describe my ideal job yesterday...as part of a job application. Jul 12 03:18:36 roy-pre101: you guys gonna open source mosaic? Jul 12 03:18:41 "Working at Palm, getting beta devices" Jul 12 03:18:50 No plans to open source Mosaic. Jul 12 03:18:55 lameeeeee Jul 12 03:18:55 said: "Develop webOS apps in the morning and hang out on a beach on a Caribbean island in the afternoon. Just can't quite get the mornings to pay for the afternoons yet." Jul 12 03:18:58 ncsa mosaic? Jul 12 03:19:22 haeffb: I'm with you! Jul 12 03:19:35 haeffb: well said Jul 12 03:19:38 I forgive you Jul 12 03:19:48 but I still hate you. Jul 12 03:19:54 Have you picked out which island yet? Jul 12 03:20:08 St. Lucia is the only one I've experienced. Jul 12 03:20:28 except for the airport in Puerto Rico - don't want to live in the airport Jul 12 03:21:54 haeffb: I'm not a palm employee, but then, I'm not a webos dev either :-) Jul 12 03:22:03 * haeffb having fun with photos! Jul 12 03:22:19 (in that I haven't written any apps) Jul 12 03:22:33 haeffb: fixing mine? :) Jul 12 03:23:58 no, playing with NuttyBunny's app Jul 12 03:24:14 ah Jul 12 03:24:34 did you try it? is it smooth enough? scaling? rotation? everything? (it does not save *yet*)... it creates a canvas element, puts everything in there, creates a toURLData string and.... leaves it in the limbo until I finish my node.js service :) Jul 12 03:24:36 NuttyBunny: now time to make Inkscape for webOS Jul 12 03:25:21 the gestures seem a little sensitive sometimes. like zooms WAY fast Jul 12 03:25:25 but not always Jul 12 03:25:39 weird Jul 12 03:26:08 mostly it's pretty smooth. just seems like it "catches" every now and then Jul 12 03:26:17 or maybe it's just me Jul 12 03:26:41 would be nice to be able to get rid of an object Jul 12 03:26:52 like I decide I don't want the hat Jul 12 03:27:03 try tapping the element before doing gestures over it Jul 12 03:27:10 I'll add the trashcan, I promise ;) Jul 12 03:27:35 can you show a selection halo around the selected object? Jul 12 03:27:54 what about move layer up/down Jul 12 03:28:00 http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/11/id-co-founder-mobile-devices-will-be-as-powerful-as-todays-con/ Jul 12 03:28:01 HAHA Jul 12 03:28:10 i find it funny they use a jitterbug for the image Jul 12 03:28:30 and they spelled id with a capital i Jul 12 03:29:11 haeffb: I had the halo idea as well, but maybe I'll just make it pulse a little, playing with its brightness. The layers, I don't quite know how I could do it nicely :S Jul 12 03:29:37 the hair & mustache icons seem pretty similar. Jul 12 03:30:15 * NuttyBunny takes note Jul 12 03:30:22 & the hat is too dark, fades into the background Jul 12 03:31:27 * haeffb wonders if some of the frames will make it past the Palm censors.... :) Jul 12 03:31:36 * NuttyBunny gets his homework :) Jul 12 03:32:01 haeffb: I don't care, I'll make them downloadable ;) Jul 12 03:32:29 hey bnceo , any feedback? Jul 12 03:32:46 Unless you're adding more icons later, you could label them... Frame: Open: Items: Save: Jul 12 03:35:44 Tibfib: 40 reviews, 29 5*, 9 4*, 2 3* Jul 12 03:35:58 sweet Jul 12 03:36:07 thanks Jul 12 03:36:35 gooooooooooooooodnight everyone Jul 12 03:36:57 good night Tibfib_! Jul 12 03:37:00 haeffb: The intention was to use it on phones as well, But for now it would work.. nice idea :) Jul 12 03:37:12 nite Tibfib_ ! Jul 12 03:37:26 night Tibfib_ Jul 12 03:43:37 hrm Jul 12 03:43:47 how do you 'post on someone's wall' on google+ ? Jul 12 03:55:44 you don't Jul 12 03:55:51 damned graffiti artists Jul 12 04:01:20 no access to google+ Jul 12 04:03:32 bbl Jul 12 04:14:00 rwhitby: None of them, I was just seeing if it were still possible to create unprivileged users. Jul 12 04:14:30 ok, good - just wanted to make sure there are no bad instructions still out there Jul 12 04:14:48 the problem with unpriv users is that OTA updates clobber them Jul 12 04:15:07 Ah. Jul 12 04:15:13 hence we now use root with secure ssh keys Jul 12 04:15:17 Gotcha Jul 12 04:16:13 I wound up doctoring again anyway Jul 12 04:16:15 Back to square 1 Jul 12 04:18:39 I might try again tomorrow, assuming I don't run into...the issue...again. Jul 12 04:20:49 Hey JayCanuck Jul 12 04:20:59 hi Jul 12 04:21:47 http://www.ustream.tv/deadmau5 Jul 12 04:23:15 How odd, there's a guy in TribalWars called deadmau5 right near me. :P Jul 12 04:23:55 Who/what is deadmau5? Jul 12 04:24:02 Just curious, are there any current webOS devices out there that DON'T use "webos20090606"? Jul 12 04:24:03 is there a dead mouse promotion going on? Jul 12 04:24:12 no Jul 12 04:24:16 his tour just ended tho Jul 12 04:24:19 deadmau5 is an electronic music producer Jul 12 04:24:41 /artist Jul 12 04:24:41 Wears a big foam cartoon mouse head during some of his performances Jul 12 04:25:26 he got his name from his irc nickname Jul 12 04:25:45 i dunno what network, but it limited nickname length (prolly efnet) Jul 12 04:25:56 Jesus, there's no way to follow chat in there, at all. Jul 12 04:26:06 yeah i dont know how he's doing it Jul 12 04:26:13 dawm: I didn't know that Jul 12 04:26:26 summatusmentis, yeah he found a dead mouse when replacing a video card in his computer Jul 12 04:26:31 people started calling him that dead mouse guy Jul 12 04:26:44 so he used it as a handle, but deadmouse was too long Jul 12 04:26:48 all irc networks limit nick length ;) Jul 12 04:26:52 interesting Jul 12 04:26:55 dwc some more than others Jul 12 04:27:21 8 seems short... thought efnet was 9 Jul 12 04:27:47 efnet was the shortest that ive ever been on Jul 12 04:27:50 21:22 [EFNet] -!- ircd-ratbox-3.0.6(20100125_2-26761). efnet.xs4all.nl egGHIKMpZ6 TS6ow 4XS Jul 12 04:27:59 21:22 [EFNet] -!- SAFELIST ELIST=U CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=9 Jul 12 04:28:28 21:23 [freenode] -!- ircd-seven-1.0.3(20100223-bba06193a380, Charybdis 3.2-dev). niven.freenode.net eHIKMpSZ6 TS6ow 16S Jul 12 04:28:44 21:23 [freenode] -!- SAFELIST ELIST=U CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 Jul 12 04:29:01 (you can see that when you connect, and if you use the 'version' raw command Jul 12 04:29:04 ) Jul 12 04:29:15 ok Jul 12 04:29:22 date that back a bunch of years ;p Jul 12 04:29:33 i havent been on efnet in .. 10 years Jul 12 04:29:54 * dwc- joined and never really left Jul 12 04:31:45 http://trunc.it/gp62m Jul 12 04:31:47 :'( Jul 12 04:32:26 heh.... Jul 12 04:32:34 who's quiz is that Jul 12 04:32:40 HP's Jul 12 04:32:46 on facebook... Jul 12 04:32:51 lol... Jul 12 04:32:54 good job HP.. Jul 12 04:33:03 chuqui: sick the dogs on it :P Jul 12 04:34:05 Similar Facebook Pages Jul 12 04:34:11 how do teachers know your not paying attention in class Jul 12 04:34:25 because... you still didn't learn proper grammar? Jul 12 04:34:41 they see you playing on your touchpad? Jul 12 05:05:32 Good thing they finally fires ruby Jul 12 05:06:18 I don't understand what that guy was thinking or his sense of direction Jul 12 05:09:52 srsly? Jul 12 07:50:52 anyone play much with enyo.SizeableImage? Jul 12 07:51:08 @chuqui anyone still at the office? :) Jul 12 07:53:37 who, wah?... Jul 12 07:53:48 hey dkirker Jul 12 07:53:54 hi jaf0 Jul 12 07:54:04 query... Jul 12 07:54:40 invalid syntax at [...]: Characters not recognized. Jul 12 07:55:21 dkirker: can you tell Lisa we have a working Terminal for touchpad (which also works on webOS 1.4.5 and 2.x as well) Jul 12 07:55:46 smart___ Jul 12 07:56:49 rwhitby: Sure! When can I play with it??!! :P Jul 12 07:57:06 * jaf0 raises his hand too. Jul 12 07:57:55 well, at the moment you need to be able to build it in the widk Jul 12 07:59:24 * dkirker might be able to do that (not sure under what time) Jul 12 10:01:04 Hey ..there Jul 12 10:23:30 how does enyo support capturing a live camera video in js? only with mediacapture? Jul 12 13:16:31 Does anyone else have a problem with your app's cookies resetting/deleting when the device is shutdown and restarted? Jul 12 13:16:37 (For the TouchPad) Jul 12 13:23:22 twbbas: I haven't run into that Jul 12 13:23:59 summatusmentis: I'm not setting an expires property for my cookies. Could that cause it? Jul 12 13:27:04 I don't know, I'm not that familiar with cookies Jul 12 13:27:49 I'd assume that it without an expires property then the cookie would last "forever." But, that doesn't seem to be the case. Jul 12 13:29:09 that would be my guess too. I know when I pull the battery in my OG pre, I lost settings sometimes, which I assume is related to cookies/dbs being corrupted Jul 12 13:29:24 but I would hope the shut-down process on the TP doesn't do that Jul 12 13:30:01 pulling a battery is a catastrophic power failure, a bit different to an orderly shutdown process Jul 12 13:31:01 my experience has been that webOS cookies are super-flakey Jul 12 13:31:10 esp if you set more than one Jul 12 13:31:28 I was alerted to this issue when a user emailed me about my app not saving his game progress. I wondered if shutting down/restarting was the problem and it seems to be. I'm doing some more testing with the expires property and restarting. If I still can't get it to work then I'll throw up a post on the forums. Jul 12 13:32:07 funkatron: I set 3-4 different cookies. I didn't want to use databases since those are limited in size based on the other apps installed too. Jul 12 13:32:29 that's only the db8 database Jul 12 13:32:46 sqlite doesn't have that problem? Jul 12 13:32:49 local storage and the web sqlite dbs aren't limited based on other apps Jul 12 13:33:01 Alright, thanks. I'll look into that. Jul 12 13:33:02 no, other than total device storage Jul 12 13:33:18 I agree that I would much rather use cookies in stuff, esp since they are sync reads Jul 12 13:33:26 but that's bitten me in the ass Jul 12 13:33:55 Oh yeah, another reason I wanted to use cookies was because they are backed up with the palm profile. Are sqlite databases backed up? Jul 12 13:34:05 mmmm I don't think so Jul 12 13:34:12 basically: they're kinda broken. Jul 12 13:34:21 my experience with Spaz is that one cookie is probably okay Jul 12 13:34:24 more cookies: not okay Jul 12 13:34:32 if you can consolidate your data into one, that's a good idea. Jul 12 13:34:45 Alright, thanks. Jul 12 13:34:59 I have so much data to store it's going to be a huge array :o Jul 12 13:35:58 600 downloads. yeah! Jul 12 13:39:03 Nice! Jul 12 13:57:19 Even with an expires date my cookies are being deleted. I just posted on the forums about it. Jul 12 14:17:13 alright guys i'm having a problem with keypresses. i have a listener in the setup of this scene that fires on keydown. works great. problem is, when i leave this scene, it continues firing even if the scene is popped. i can't get it to stop no matter what i do. i need this to work for all keys including enter key. Jul 12 14:23:14 =( Jul 12 14:24:35 fxspec06: did you stop the listener in .deactivate() ? Jul 12 14:30:32 that doesn't stop it. i tried that but it doesn't stop. it's as if that adds a new listener Jul 12 14:31:38 it's an input box, and i need to call a function on enter key. >>> Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.document, "keydown", this.handleInputSpecialKeys.bind(this), true); // true is needed to intercept 'enter' key Jul 12 14:31:46 that's in setup Jul 12 14:36:03 using this.$.db.readDB() where db is a enyo.DbService - is it possible to wait until the read operation has finished? Jul 12 14:41:01 so how do I wait until reading is finished, so i can get the retrieved data... Jul 12 15:14:45 I dont know how people cheat on their partners.. I'm just talking to a few people and its getting hard to keep track of who likes what and does what. Jul 12 15:45:04 hey Jul 12 15:45:30 anyone get in touch with someone about ordering developer priced touchpads? Jul 12 15:45:35 no Jul 12 15:45:45 -_- Jul 12 15:46:19 http://doctorcatmd.com/ Jul 12 15:46:21 no matter how bad hpalm is at timing and availability, they never stop getting worse Jul 12 15:46:21 lolz Jul 12 15:48:08 next thing you know, the pre3 will get pushed back a few months to ensure it's hardware is OUA (obsolete upon arrival) Jul 12 15:48:47 some people have gotten the "within 15 days" coupon message, haven't they? Jul 12 15:48:54 i got that Jul 12 15:49:32 doesn't mean anything more than "we acknowledge your request" Jul 12 15:49:43 i didnt get it Jul 12 15:49:54 i never actually sent in any message about the dev TP's since I already have one Jul 12 15:53:11 ideally, 70% of what we have to contact PDC for would be handled by the portal itself Jul 12 15:53:30 yup Jul 12 15:53:36 i.e. "Get Coupon Code" Jul 12 15:53:44 don't think anyone is arguing with that point really Jul 12 15:54:06 ya i wouldnt imagine so Jul 12 15:54:10 it makes sense Jul 12 15:54:31 i guess i just expected that sort of thing to be ready Jul 12 15:54:35 by now Jul 12 15:54:48 the portal is all new and shiny Jul 12 15:57:29 * haeffb will argue that point, just for the sake of arguing. Jul 12 15:57:35 codeslaw: you crazy, man Jul 12 15:57:49 it still logs you out Jul 12 15:57:56 maybe we should take this outside Jul 12 15:58:02 i wanna know why I didnt get the email Jul 12 15:58:06 hell no, it's hot outside Jul 12 15:58:36 * haeffb will argue safely behind my keyboard in the AC Jul 12 15:58:59 89 in austin right now, coolest it has been in 2 weeks Jul 12 15:59:06 102 high though this afternoon Jul 12 16:02:48 i hate it when you're having an email conversation and the other party doesnt leave a topic to reply on. Jul 12 16:03:30 passive aggressive conversation stopping Jul 12 16:06:39 Hi all :) I've got one question. How can I call some enyo function from service? Jul 12 16:07:53 http://photovine.com/ Jul 12 16:07:59 horrible place holder.. seriously.. Jul 12 16:44:51 hrm Jul 12 16:57:06 so evil is this iphone tivo app Jul 12 16:57:51 halfhalo: http://precentral.net/hp-announces-ATT-touchpad-4g-1-5ghz-processor Jul 12 16:59:34 PatrickC: http://precentral.net/hp-announces-It-Doesnt-Affect-Me-Because-I-Didnt-Get-One-Yet/ Jul 12 16:59:56 fxspec06: lol Jul 12 17:01:29 do you know anything about binding functions to events Jul 12 17:02:12 this.bindEventAsListener ? Jul 12 17:02:19 iirc Jul 12 17:02:45 my case comes today! Jul 12 17:02:56 my touchpad doesn't :'( Jul 12 17:03:11 shoot me in the ass. -.- this code is screwy.. i'm using directly from the API also Jul 12 17:03:30 * PatrickC shoots Jul 12 17:03:52 lol.. bbl.. skool time Jul 12 17:04:14 k bye Jul 12 17:04:26 oh. fxspec06, what'd you think of the icon? Jul 12 17:05:08 idk, it still looks like a moon to me Jul 12 17:05:41 i need to luna reboot. but the settings screen is nice Jul 12 17:05:53 yup, shiny new TP Jul 12 17:08:40 setting screen does nothing :) Jul 12 17:08:48 and.. you should see a new icon... Jul 12 17:11:14 yeah i had to reboot Jul 12 17:11:30 restart luna*. it's an odd icon loll Jul 12 17:12:15 yeah.. first one I made without a tutorial Jul 12 17:12:33 it'll get better as time goes on :) you see the general idea of the icon? Jul 12 17:13:41 yeah a fat guy holding a radio brick to his ear? =p Jul 12 17:14:39 haha Jul 12 17:14:43 tivo remote on ipod = evil Jul 12 17:14:59 i keep changing the channels on my mom and sister.. thats what they get for hogging the tv while their staying here Jul 12 17:18:38 Hi.. Any pointers on how to use the WebOS notification engine in applications ?.. Basically, I want my app to notify me of events Jul 12 17:19:55 hi guys, I can't test my app because the webos emulator/virtalbox keeps flickering between the last two frames. i don't jet own a physical device. did someone else experience this problem? any advice? I tried different versions of virtual box under osx but no luck so far?! Jul 12 17:19:57 To run my app in the background which polls my server for any critical events and notifies me with an icon in the bottom right corner Jul 12 17:24:34 dawm: hahahahaha Jul 12 17:24:45 fxspec06: yeah.. he won't be fat in the next icon :P Jul 12 17:29:54 what the fuck netflix Jul 12 17:38:34 PatrickC: I agree that icon is lulz Jul 12 17:40:26 4G TouchPad coming Jul 12 17:40:27 cool Jul 12 17:44:08 hmmm.... scratch that request for a dev discount coupon & wait for the 4G? Jul 12 17:44:35 * halfhalo has been waiting for the 4g since ever Jul 12 17:46:20 Tibfib_: ping Jul 12 17:51:08 Tibfib_: nevermind Jul 12 17:52:54 twbbas: yeah.. I know.. it'll get better Jul 12 17:53:22 halfhalo: scratch the dev coupon and buy us both a 4G one Jul 12 17:53:40 * halfhalo never asked for dev coupin Jul 12 17:54:25 * PatrickC did Jul 12 17:55:46 triple double oreo's Jul 12 17:55:48 !! Jul 12 17:56:11 Across the sky? Jul 12 17:56:12 What? Jul 12 17:56:33 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150257989174653&set=a.124804629652.101377.114998944652&type=1 Jul 12 17:57:38 Now that's a motherf*ckin' Oreo right there. Jul 12 17:58:06 indeed Jul 12 18:02:34 another reason pre3 may not be on sprint http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/12/iphone-5-to-land-on-sprint-and-t-mobile-analyst-says/#utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28BGR+%7C+Boy+Genius+Report%29 Jul 12 18:03:21 I thought T-Mobile in the US was going away. Jul 12 18:03:27 they're totally gonna be mad when Gravy Rainbow starts playing Jul 12 18:03:49 AtomicPlayboy: as of now, that's the plan, but the FCC still needs to approve the merger Jul 12 18:03:57 Ah. Jul 12 18:04:07 which means AT&T gets iPhone5 if that occurs Jul 12 18:04:17 but as of now, T-Mobile is still it's own entity Jul 12 18:05:23 http://www.facebook.com/TigerDirect?sk=app_172479526148725 Jul 12 18:05:26 win TP Jul 12 18:06:23 is there any way to bind a function to a callback, when the parent function exists in a global file Jul 12 18:06:40 I already won a Touchpad. I just paid $500 for my raffle ticket and I was the only entrant. Jul 12 18:07:26 lol Jul 12 18:20:07 fxspec06: enyo or mojo? Jul 12 18:20:22 mojo Jul 12 18:20:49 give an example of what you're trying to do Jul 12 18:20:51 i bind it and it works until i leave, i come back and there's an error Jul 12 18:20:59 k h.o Jul 12 18:21:05 you leave the room? Jul 12 18:22:10 parts of your question I don't understand: 1) "bind a function to a callback" Jul 12 18:22:18 2) "parent function" Jul 12 18:22:40 3) "global file" Jul 12 18:23:05 so, yeah, pretty much the whole question Jul 12 18:25:03 http://pastebin.com/eZua5Nug Jul 12 18:26:20 i don't know how to ask the question. villo.chat is located in a separate file. it all works once, then when i come back it's giving me this error: TypeError: Property 'w' of object [object DOMWindow] is not a function Jul 12 18:33:15 what you have looks OK to me. But I don't have a clue how villo chat works. Jul 12 18:33:52 yeah, idk either. i feel like i'm definitely doing something wrong. =( Jul 12 18:33:56 what does the joinChat callback property do? Jul 12 18:34:23 and is msgs a global array? Jul 12 18:35:26 msgs is a global array defined like so: function ChatroomAssistant(){msgs = []; Jul 12 18:35:36 and the joinChat callback Jul 12 18:36:29 in the newMessage method, you should use this.msgs.push() Jul 12 18:36:42 basically shows a message on the screen whenever one is pushed to the phone / villo user. it's odd. i feel like its a problem w/ villo Jul 12 18:37:31 or not Jul 12 18:37:47 newMessage isn't called on activate, it's like a hanger. it's weird Jul 12 18:37:51 var msgs=[] and this.msgs would keep msgs from being a global variable Jul 12 18:38:16 okay lets try that Jul 12 18:38:25 well, it wouldn't unless something in Villo called it Jul 12 18:38:39 you're just telling Villo what function to call when there's a new message Jul 12 18:43:32 that gives the same error. =\ Jul 12 18:51:25 Good Morning! Jul 12 18:51:37 what's new around these here parts? Jul 12 19:10:04 haeffb: what's the new change in noted? Jul 12 19:14:08 just a bitty bug fix Jul 12 19:14:37 one user was having trouble displaying notes with weird characters Jul 12 19:15:33 ah ok Jul 12 19:17:58 hmm Jul 12 19:18:07 1.4.5.1 + pad + sms = fail Jul 12 19:18:16 i'm slightly sad about that Jul 12 19:38:40 Hoy hoy Jul 12 19:39:08 quick question. Is there a mirror for the PreBrew installer from this page? Jul 12 19:39:09 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Tutorials_webOS_Installing_An_Ipk Jul 12 19:39:39 skydrive gives me an error if I try to download it Jul 12 19:41:31 prebrew is no longer supported iirc Jul 12 19:42:40 oh Jul 12 19:42:53 I guess I want the webos quick install then? Jul 12 19:43:51 I suggest using the palm sdk tools. thats what most people here use Jul 12 19:44:22 Hmmm what advantages does the sdk route have over the quick install? Jul 12 19:44:55 its officially supported as a way of installing apps to the device Jul 12 19:45:23 isn't the quick route? Jul 12 19:48:22 well I got the quick installer going. I'll run with that for now :) Jul 12 19:57:38 omg, just answered my first phone call on my TP from my phone :) Jul 12 20:01:11 I know my phone works with my TP, I just haven't used it yet outside of a test call. Jul 12 20:01:31 * halfhalo grr's at hp Jul 12 20:52:24 Anyone working on/know of a terminal emulator for TouchPad? Jul 12 20:58:39 Send me e-mails at random times with a different subsection of the digits of pi. Jul 12 21:06:55 good afternoon folks Jul 12 21:14:28 anyone played around with enyo.animator? Jul 12 21:14:41 not me Jul 12 21:15:08 does it animate its children or its parent? Jul 12 21:19:07 So... a new better touchpad... Jul 12 21:19:43 yeah..... Jul 12 21:19:55 is my dev discount good toward that? Jul 12 21:23:57 You may be interested in this thread I started: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16284&p=82099 Jul 12 21:24:09 they should have just put a 4G radio into the 1st gen.. we already have a second gen tp and its been what? Jul 12 21:24:09 Apparently, cookies are being deleted when the TouchPad is shut down and rebooted again. Jul 12 21:24:12 2 wks? Jul 12 21:24:26 twbbas: had that happen on my pre2 Jul 12 21:24:38 how many times did it happen to you? Jul 12 21:24:48 It happens everytime I shut down my TouchPad. Jul 12 21:24:57 wow Jul 12 21:25:05 The cookies in my app get deleted Jul 12 21:25:19 I was only informed of this problem when a user emailed me this morning about it Jul 12 21:25:56 wow.. Jul 12 21:26:06 I might not want to use cookies then Jul 12 21:26:17 the 1.5ghz is compelling, but meh, I don't care about 4G Jul 12 21:26:25 let me know what you end up doing.. before I go any further with mine Jul 12 21:26:27 PatrickC: what makes you think it's second gen? Jul 12 21:26:27 summatusmentis: yeah.. Jul 12 21:26:38 faster proc, 4G Jul 12 21:26:44 I use cookies because it's the only thing backed up to the user's palm profile. Jul 12 21:26:49 the ipad 2 mainly had a faster proc. Jul 12 21:26:57 thinner, lighter Jul 12 21:27:03 the This Is My Next article suggests HP is billing this as a second tier Jul 12 21:27:06 eh, not by much though Jul 12 21:27:09 not a second gen Jul 12 21:27:20 dude, the ipad2 was like, half as thick Jul 12 21:27:26 really? Jul 12 21:27:32 didn't seem like that drastic to me Jul 12 21:27:39 maybe not half, but something significant Jul 12 21:27:58 33% Jul 12 21:28:09 so 1/3 Jul 12 21:28:12 yeah, that Jul 12 21:28:18 that's more then it seemed to me Jul 12 21:28:23 13.4mm -> 8.8mm Jul 12 21:28:28 wow.. Jul 12 21:28:50 well, when you're talking about quantities of less than half an inch, you're not likely to feel significant differences Jul 12 21:29:03 summatusmentis: they need to upgrade the processor in all touchpads they make from now on.. Jul 12 21:29:08 I don't think 4G is second gen, I think it's just "second tier" Jul 12 21:29:08 even the first ones.. Jul 12 21:29:24 1.5 is a big difference.. Jul 12 21:29:30 PatrickC: This Is My Next is suggesting that's not gonna happen, that wifi models won't get the faster proc Jul 12 21:29:39 :/ Jul 12 21:29:45 .3 ghz, yeah, such a difference Jul 12 21:29:58 it is between a pixi and pre. Jul 12 21:29:59 I doubt users will notice, quite frankly Jul 12 21:30:06 Isn't the wifi TouchPad's processor rated for 1.5 though? Jul 12 21:30:10 a huge difference between a pixi and a pre Jul 12 21:30:27 PatrickC: when you're talking about below a 1ghz, maybe Jul 12 21:30:40 yeah Jul 12 21:30:46 twbbas: what do you mean rated for? Jul 12 21:30:48 PatrickC: Wait until you actually use a TouchPad. There hardly any lag and it only happens sometimes. Jul 12 21:30:50 but id think it'd apply to most Jul 12 21:30:53 do you think they've underclocked this? Jul 12 21:30:58 twbbas: i've used one Jul 12 21:31:03 PatrickC: really, I don't think anyone's gonna notice Jul 12 21:31:05 summatusmentis: Like how the Pre- was rated for 600Mhz but was clocked at 500Mhz Jul 12 21:31:06 it has /some remote/ lag Jul 12 21:31:13 twbbas: that's fair Jul 12 21:31:20 PatrickC: I doubt that lag is cpu related Jul 12 21:31:21 summatusmentis: I thought I read somewhere that it was underclocked Jul 12 21:31:30 twbbas: might be, I don't remember hearing that Jul 12 21:31:36 * twbbas goes and looks Jul 12 21:31:42 it won't be ones uNiXpSyChO gets ahold of it :) Jul 12 21:31:47 once* Jul 12 21:32:09 grr, I wish the touchpad wallpaper setting was more like the older ones, where you can zoom a picture around to choose the "viewing window" Jul 12 21:32:27 summatusmentis: A thread talking about the same thing. Not where I saw it originally though: http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/286077-can-touchpad-run-1-5-ghz.html Jul 12 21:32:33 I wish palm world email me already... Jul 12 21:32:43 summatusmentis: I wish the TouchPad wallpaper setting was still in the photos app... Jul 12 21:32:45 there's not a good mechanism for knowing if the image will work well in both portrait and landscape Jul 12 21:32:52 twbbas: that too Jul 12 21:33:04 I still go in there, and then get frustrated when I can't make it work Jul 12 21:33:12 summatusmentis: I didn't even know it existed until I saw a reviewer had changed their wallpaper. Then it took me forever to find it. Jul 12 21:33:33 http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief Jul 12 21:34:02 its really that well hidden? :/ Jul 12 21:35:03 PatrickC: it's just in the Screen + Lock settings Jul 12 21:35:12 you can't access it from the PHoto app anymore Jul 12 21:35:23 so not "well hidden", just not as easily accessible Jul 12 21:35:25 that's how I always set my wallpaper Jul 12 21:35:34 that, and from wallpaper apps Jul 12 21:36:02 keeping it in the photo app would be nice, because it'd let you figure out how the image looks in portrait and landscape Jul 12 21:36:10 What is interesting in the spec sheet is that the Graphic Processing Unit (GPU) in the chip can handle 3d processing, an output resolution of 1440x900 and full 1080p @ 30 fps along with HDMI Jul 12 21:36:56 grr, I wish there were Flickr synergy :( Jul 12 21:37:06 PatrickC: http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/12/hp-touchpad-4g-att-hands-on/ Jul 12 21:37:24 summatusmentis: write a plugin :) Jul 12 21:38:15 summatusmentis: coming from webOS 2.x and below, I didn't expect to see it in the screen and lock so I skipped over it the first few times I opened the app. Jul 12 21:38:41 For a new webOS user, I guess it wouldn't be as hard for them to find it there. Jul 12 21:38:42 I'll take the new tp w/o a contract and my dev discount... tyvm Jul 12 21:38:57 PatrickC: can't, the Synergy APIs don't allow it, from what I can tell Jul 12 21:39:30 twbbas: it's in the screen and lock stuff too Jul 12 21:39:34 in 2.x Jul 12 21:39:39 Oh really? Jul 12 21:39:48 yep Jul 12 21:39:53 Wow. I'm blind :o Jul 12 21:40:18 yeah, right there, "Change Wallpaper" Jul 12 21:40:25 I also don't change my wallpaper manually. I wrote an app that sets my wallpaper as the POD (Picture of the Day) from www.pinkbike.com ;) Jul 12 21:40:30 at 3am every morning Jul 12 21:40:51 :-P Jul 12 21:41:15 I do amateur photography, I want to be able to set it to my own pictures :) Jul 12 21:42:41 Ugh I wish the "select a file" popup was at least 50% larger. So annoying to only be able to see 2 list items at a time. Jul 12 21:42:47 On the TouchPad Jul 12 21:43:14 what files are you selecting? Jul 12 21:43:29 Wallpaper ;) Jul 12 21:43:46 oh, yeah, that I absolutely agree with Jul 12 21:43:46 I guess you can see 3 rows when you get down to the actual images Jul 12 21:43:53 but only being able to see 2 folders is annoying Jul 12 21:44:26 especially because I've got a bunch of CD covers Jul 12 21:51:57 I think webOS is dying and im not happy about it :( Jul 12 21:52:14 well.. not necessarily.. Jul 12 21:52:19 I don't think Jul 12 21:54:42 I hate twitter spammers... Jul 12 21:58:47 *yawn* Jul 12 21:59:56 Don't we all Jul 12 22:02:40 ryaxnb: the pessimistic side of me agrees. Jul 12 22:03:02 haeffb, can be worrying can't it? Jul 12 22:03:12 are you gonna move to android if webOS slowly dies? Jul 12 22:03:26 * haeffb will become amish and forswear all technology Jul 12 22:03:36 foreswear? Jul 12 22:03:41 whatever Jul 12 22:03:45 fourswear Jul 12 22:03:59 curse Android x4 Jul 12 22:04:02 or foursquare even Jul 12 22:04:34 I figure about the time I write an app I really like, webOS will be dead. Jul 12 22:04:43 so, there's plenty of time yet Jul 12 22:07:08 soooo what would be the best way to reduce rss feed content to get previews? Jul 12 22:07:27 because just truncating the summary can leave me with open tags Jul 12 22:07:40 * rwhitby edits http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Tutorials_webOS_Installing_An_Ipk Jul 12 22:26:41 haeffb, i use android, but i like webos. Jul 12 22:26:55 If the Pre 2 were subsidized to $99 on ATT i might have gotten WebOS Jul 12 22:27:18 tibfib what you mean reduce rss feeds? Jul 12 22:27:56 LoneStar99: I need reduced content for previews Jul 12 22:28:00 but I think I've figured it out Jul 12 22:30:54 like app catalog content? Jul 12 22:34:39 not sure what you mean Jul 12 22:35:42 but like I said, I think I've got it Jul 12 22:38:57 right on, time 2 paint bbl Jul 12 22:40:08 okaaay anyone with a touchpad wanna try something out? Jul 12 22:49:21 is there any website that will check for case errors Jul 12 22:50:34 Maybe AOL. Get it? Case? Steve Case? niork, niork. Jul 12 22:50:59 ahh Jul 12 22:51:01 no for real Jul 12 22:51:28 i spent the last 10 hrs looking for a problem in javascript. there's something wrong with my HTML or CSS and i needa find it. and would like to make easier Jul 12 22:53:56 jslint? Jul 12 22:54:16 (i've heard it will hurt your feelings. ;) ) Jul 12 22:54:28 not you personally, but the generic "you" Jul 12 22:54:31 hm. -.- Jul 12 22:55:01 http://www.jslint.com/ Jul 12 22:55:43 http://www.jslint.com/lint.html (warns of hurt feelings) Jul 12 22:56:38 thanks Jul 12 22:56:43 i need to find this Jul 12 22:57:15 ares.palm.com has a joint checker Jul 12 22:58:24 * PatrickC is installing Debian Jul 12 22:59:09 jslint has hurt my feelings many times Jul 12 23:13:37 http://d.facebook.com/install Jul 12 23:13:43 NOT AVAILABLE FOR YOUR DEVICE Jul 12 23:13:57 soo.. 'Facebook for Every Phone' isnt for every phone Jul 12 23:14:44 but.. we have a fbook app... Jul 12 23:15:00 that sucks Jul 12 23:15:09 i use the browser fb more than the app Jul 12 23:15:22 really? Jul 12 23:15:26 I kinda like the app.. Jul 12 23:21:20 the app has too many problems and is lacking in features Jul 12 23:21:26 the web ui is better IMO Jul 12 23:23:07 I like the app Jul 12 23:23:13 seems better to me IMHO Jul 12 23:23:40 ugg... debian takes forever to install... Jul 12 23:24:58 lol ... mad autotune skills ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax89xyULQR0 Jul 12 23:25:55 catchy. i could sing that in the car. Jul 12 23:28:33 Son of a bee-sting. Jul 12 23:29:07 what? Jul 12 23:29:15 I pooped a hammer. Jul 12 23:29:23 lol? Jul 12 23:29:41 I love lamp. Jul 12 23:29:53 I met her in the bathroom of a K-Mart and we made out for hours. Jul 12 23:29:58 uh Jul 12 23:30:42 People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded. Jul 12 23:30:42 wow.. lol Jul 12 23:30:54 wooo! offer email! Jul 12 23:31:12 I want one Jul 12 23:32:21 halfhalo: YEAH! Jul 12 23:32:48 anyone know how to declare stage assistant as stage arguments in app assistant Jul 12 23:32:59 PatrickC, movie quotes if you couldnt guess Jul 12 23:33:11 dawm: nope.. didn't know at all lol Jul 12 23:33:19 Anchor man Jul 12 23:33:43 never seen it.. Jul 12 23:33:48 are you kidding me Jul 12 23:33:50 ... Jul 12 23:34:29 nope.. Jul 12 23:35:04 I ate fiberglass insulation. It wasn't cotton candy like the guy said... my tummy itches. Jul 12 23:35:30 lol Jul 12 23:35:43 You can specify a stage assistant in stageArguments; otherwise, the stage is created without a stage assistant. ------- var stageArguments = {name: "MainStageName", lightweight: true}; Jul 12 23:36:32 from: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/mojo/basics-stages.html Jul 12 23:37:13 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150241599425765&set=a.161073115764.121142.139454585764&type=1&comments Jul 12 23:37:16 awesome! Jul 12 23:40:02 crap.. just ran the fakeroot cmd, and now I'm root@Patrick-Home instead of patrickc@Patrick-Home Jul 12 23:40:53 fixed it. Jul 12 23:41:26 wait wut?... theres an anchorman sequel? Jul 12 23:44:06 i never heard of it Jul 12 23:45:17 yah Jul 12 23:45:22 Wake Up, Ron Burgundy Jul 12 23:47:14 * halfhalo does happy dance Jul 12 23:48:34 openssh install is the same on ubuntu server as it is on a full ubuntu? right? Jul 12 23:54:39 fxspec06: you got it Jul 12 23:56:06 yeah Jul 12 23:56:10 finally. Jul 12 23:56:28 Woo! PDC@Palm.com actually answered one of my emails! And it was within 30 mins! Jul 12 23:56:35 had to find a link in a post to a github to a file dugg down super deep. Jul 13 00:01:34 wow Jul 13 00:07:21 twbbas: about what? Jul 13 00:08:20 About my in-app item not being reviewed yet after 12 days and about my update not being reviewed yet for a week. Jul 13 00:13:04 I've gotten 2 emails today from users wanting to buy more levels in my game but not being able to Jul 13 00:13:16 >.> Jul 13 00:16:02 that sucks Jul 13 00:16:13 i get emails from users wanting my app on other platforms.. Jul 13 00:16:20 idiots Jul 13 00:16:23 i don't get emails Jul 13 00:16:37 or i get emails from users on other platforms that think i wrote the app thats on their platform Jul 13 00:18:47 dawm: what app did you make? Jul 13 00:19:17 mycokerewards, swap&drop, swap&drop trial and an abandoned betaware RingWhere (gps ringtones) Jul 13 00:19:44 ahhhh are they asking about the mycokerewards one? Jul 13 00:19:48 twbbas: what game? Jul 13 00:19:49 yeah Jul 13 00:19:50 always Jul 13 00:20:20 i wish i could charge for that one and not worry about coke getting mad Jul 13 00:21:03 PatrickC: Differences. https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.zone303.differences Jul 13 00:21:55 * halfhalo pokes hp Jul 13 00:22:16 You have to poke harder Jul 13 00:22:16 not available for my model Jul 13 00:22:27 PatrickC: It's a TouchPad app Jul 13 00:22:35 ah Jul 13 00:22:51 woah my TouchPad just freaked me out Jul 13 00:22:57 apparently it makes a sound when it gets to 100% charged Jul 13 00:22:58 how? Jul 13 00:23:02 did it have your reflection in it? Jul 13 00:23:03 awesome! Jul 13 00:23:06 haha Jul 13 00:23:11 My volume was all the way up Jul 13 00:23:16 dawm: nice one Jul 13 00:23:19 ;P Jul 13 00:23:26 always Jul 13 00:23:35 back to that lamp i made out with in the kmart bathroom.. Jul 13 00:23:39 This beats audio... never though I'd be afraid of it Jul 13 00:23:42 she was a bit shady Jul 13 00:23:46 kmart's are still around? Jul 13 00:23:52 yep Jul 13 00:23:55 failmart Jul 13 00:23:59 I hate it when I use a ' wrong Jul 13 00:24:11 i can't freaking push a new scene w/ my first stage. what the hell. this is supposed to be easy to understand. Jul 13 00:24:24 fxspec06: What's the problem? Jul 13 00:24:36 and enyo or mojo Jul 13 00:24:36 i'm trying to convert from single stage to multistage Jul 13 00:24:51 in mojo. i've got the app and stage assistant set up. Jul 13 00:25:14 i do Mojo.Controller.stageController.swapScene("menu"); ............ and error. Jul 13 00:25:30 same with Mojo.Controller.stageController.setWindowOrientation"right"); Jul 13 00:25:36 same exact error Jul 13 00:25:54 Try: Mojo.Controller.stageController.pushScene("menu"); Jul 13 00:26:07 I've never heard of swapScene Jul 13 00:26:20 error: object function anonymous this.initialize.apply(this,arguments has no method 'swapscene' Jul 13 00:26:31 error: object function anonymous this.initialize.apply(this,arguments has no method 'setWindowOrientation' Jul 13 00:27:14 same with pushScene Jul 13 00:27:23 Hmmm... Jul 13 00:27:24 i posted this on palm forums yesterday at like 2 and no reply. Jul 13 00:27:30 i posted here and nobody knows Jul 13 00:27:37 I'm not that skilled with mojo Jul 13 00:27:41 i searched google and there's like 1 hit on it Jul 13 00:27:47 and the developer forums sometimes you don't get a reply =\ Jul 13 00:28:08 I posted a thread on there at 9am this morning, took until 4pm to get a reply and then after that I got like 6 more replies within 30 mins. Jul 13 00:28:16 yeah because they think 'oh this person probably didn't search' or something. it's ridiculous Jul 13 00:28:19 and luckily one of them as an HP employee Jul 13 00:29:04 error: object function anonymous this.initialize.apply(this,arguments has no method 'pushScene' Jul 13 00:29:11 how can Mojo be undefined Jul 13 00:29:30 No idea Jul 13 00:30:18 nobody does. and palm doesn't want to help because its mojo Jul 13 00:30:43 it worked fine in single stage Jul 13 00:32:31 http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/the-engadget-interview-hps-stephen-dewitt/ Jul 13 00:32:41 "I think that the future of computing is going to be about maintaining your state, about taking everything that matters to you, your content, your apps, and holding your state against any screen you look at. " Jul 13 00:33:58 "Well, look what we got criticized on. I've gotta love this. First people are saying that we've got a fat device. You need a cord to power an iPad. You don't in our world. The fact that we're a couple of millimeters fatter is because we have Touchstone" Jul 13 00:35:10 "We have all of the key apps out" - Nope. Not Netflix... Jul 13 00:36:14 Where am i supposed to go for help when nobody answers me Jul 13 00:36:24 do I email PDC? Jul 13 00:36:30 I suppose you could try Jul 13 00:36:33 Couldn't hurt Jul 13 00:36:50 Although if they consider you a Green Belt then you probably won't get a reply =\ Jul 13 00:36:58 i just sent 4 tweets Jul 13 00:37:06 i posted twice more in the forum Jul 13 00:37:23 the original post was the 10th Jul 13 00:37:41 34 views and nobody even noticed Jul 13 00:38:31 Do you mind posting up some code on pastebin? I may be able to take a closer look Jul 13 00:38:50 sure, no problem at all Jul 13 00:40:00 http://pastebin.com/McSaRRcV Jul 13 00:41:07 finally got rid of jon. that guy made so many bad decisions Jul 13 00:42:47 fxspec06: I think I had a similar problem Jul 13 00:43:05 fxspec06: I'm using this.controller.stageController.pushScene() in my app instead Jul 13 00:43:28 (and I have also used swapScene() with this method, and it has worked) Jul 13 00:43:31 fxspec06: Lines 25-30 I don't know anything about but I'd guess the problem is there. Jul 13 00:43:55 (but I haven't looked at the pastebin yet) Jul 13 00:44:04 twbbas: that's straight from the PALM website Jul 13 00:44:21 but it could be Jul 13 00:44:30 fxspec06: It's probably right but I just have no experience with createStageWithCallback( Jul 13 00:44:39 and everything else looks fine Jul 13 00:44:47 okay this.controller worked......... kinda.. Jul 13 00:44:53 what kernel is 3.0 using? Jul 13 00:45:18 fxspec06: I haven't done it in the app controller, tho Jul 13 00:46:50 fxspec06: it kinda worked? Jul 13 00:47:41 yeah it did push the scene. but now still problems. i need the equivilant for setWindowOrientation Jul 13 00:47:53 also window.setTimeout is screwy... Jul 13 00:48:26 okay i got to rotate Jul 13 00:48:29 phew Jul 13 00:55:33 window.setTimeout ? still not working? Jul 13 00:56:26 I think there's a method that's added to functions by prototype Jul 13 00:56:30 delay, I think Jul 13 00:56:50 i need setTimeout Jul 13 00:57:19 i have at least 25 functions that depend on it Jul 13 00:58:09 and you can't change those to use delay instead? (I'm not certain that it will solve your problem, but it could be worth a try) Jul 13 00:58:27 at least you could change it in one place and see if it fixes the problem there Jul 13 00:59:22 in case setTimeout is buggy Jul 13 00:59:24 and now none of my variables in stage-assistant are global anymore Jul 13 00:59:41 curious. Jul 13 00:59:42 i lost all scope Jul 13 01:00:48 :-( Jul 13 01:01:50 well, I need to head home, so can't look any more right now. (sorry) Hope you can figure it out, or someone else shows up that can help. Jul 13 01:02:01 okay thanks Jul 13 01:02:04 big help Jul 13 01:03:30 fxspec06: how's it comin? chat working? Jul 13 01:04:06 yes but the game isn't Jul 13 01:04:33 it was.. what happened? Jul 13 01:04:39 i've been playing it Jul 13 01:06:00 i know Jul 13 01:06:07 i've been changing it to multistage Jul 13 01:06:11 and hitting brick walls Jul 13 01:06:21 because like one peoples on the planet knows whats up Jul 13 01:06:48 wow.. that stinks.. Jul 13 01:09:48 window.setTimeout isn't working Jul 13 01:10:14 and my variable scope has been lost completely. none of the variables declared in stage-assistant are passed it seems Jul 13 01:15:03 fxspec06: perhaps I can help... Jul 13 01:15:08 what's up? Jul 13 01:15:24 okay i've made progress Jul 13 01:15:39 got my multi stage scenes pushing and popping.. Jul 13 01:16:39 now window.setTimeout is not working. and. my variables from stage-assistant aren't available in any scenes, along with a function in stage-assistant not having access to my scene's elements Jul 13 01:16:53 is the stage-assistant being loaded? Jul 13 01:16:59 yes Jul 13 01:18:37 oh wait i found something.... window.settimeout IS working. Jul 13 01:19:21 you have log statements in the stage assistant that show up? Jul 13 01:19:24 now just scope issue Jul 13 01:19:30 haeffb: yes i do Jul 13 01:20:03 the variables from stage assistant are global in scope? Jul 13 01:21:03 h.o myb they are. i'm just really confused Jul 13 01:22:33 fxspec06: post the stage assistant? Jul 13 01:27:31 haeffb: PM'd Jul 13 01:29:21 * dwc- wonders if they'll let people on the waitlist into the palm html5 thing today Jul 13 01:49:12 Last minute of /var/log/messages before a Luna restart: http://pastebin.com/hSm89Y77 Captured from my TouchPad Jul 13 01:49:25 In case anyone finds that useful Jul 13 01:49:41 Rather, it's the last minute of /var/log/messages before a crash Jul 13 01:50:05 * PatrickC wants to win the auction!!! but doesn't seem to be able to Jul 13 01:59:42 is there an official webos/enyo bugtracker? Jul 13 02:00:06 where should we submit bugs to? Jul 13 02:00:52 the forums Jul 13 02:01:09 http://developer.palm.com/distribution Jul 13 02:01:41 yeah, thought so, just wondered if there's a better way Jul 13 02:01:45 thanks Jul 13 02:01:56 np Jul 13 02:02:11 lots of better ways, but that's the only one HP uses Jul 13 02:03:55 * halfhalo can't wait till next week Jul 13 02:03:57 so how awesome am i Jul 13 02:04:08 a friend of mine said he needed a new profile picture and was taking suggestions Jul 13 02:04:42 so i suggested (random as hell) a kangaroo holding a butcher knife Jul 13 02:05:05 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/267425_10150324701348745_625813744_9231965_5642723_n.jpg Jul 13 02:05:07 he found one Jul 13 02:05:23 wtf Jul 13 02:05:49 That's one badass kangaroo right there Jul 13 02:08:12 so yeah, thats how awesome i am Jul 13 02:08:30 funny thing is.. he's my friend on facebook and i have no idea who he is Jul 13 02:18:47 dawm nice maybe a butcher knife for your FB friend is no joke at all... Jul 13 02:20:08 jesus fortix 2 is the buggiest game ive ever played on webos by far Jul 13 02:20:17 it crashes every couple minutes Jul 13 02:20:21 you havent played angry birds then Jul 13 02:20:26 that shit is horrible Jul 13 02:20:27 is that a computer Jul 13 02:20:28 this is far far far buggier Jul 13 02:20:30 by a lot Jul 13 02:21:09 it crashes when you flip the screen, it crashes when you restart a level, it crashes when you look at it crosseyed Jul 13 02:21:57 then dont do those things Jul 13 02:22:15 uh huh Jul 13 02:28:47 wewt Jul 13 02:29:15 i'm batting 100 tonite Jul 13 02:29:47 OMFG Jul 13 02:29:49 YAYYYYYYYYYYYY Jul 13 02:29:51 <33333333333333 Jul 13 02:29:54 * fxspec06 IS HAPPY Jul 13 02:29:59 me too Jul 13 02:30:07 scored a reply to an email Jul 13 02:30:17 and happy he has unlimited texts Jul 13 02:30:24 i feel like a genius when i do incredible things Jul 13 02:30:35 isnt batting 100 like 1 for 10? Jul 13 02:30:53 ;) Jul 13 02:31:11 I WON!!! Jul 13 02:31:11 lol Jul 13 02:31:29 100 would be 100% Jul 13 02:31:36 and the great thing is... i'm making my app more enyo compatible Jul 13 02:31:48 * PatrickC is gonna make a frankenpre2 now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jul 13 02:31:49 no, 1000 is 100% Jul 13 02:31:52 fxspec06: how? Jul 13 02:31:54 fuck Jul 13 02:31:58 haha Jul 13 02:32:01 i guess i spoke too soon then huh Jul 13 02:32:08 anyhoo Jul 13 02:32:14 i knew 100 was wrong but i kept thinking percentages Jul 13 02:32:18 :) Jul 13 02:32:34 lol Jul 13 02:32:42 PatrickC: i'm just awesome Jul 13 02:32:47 lol Jul 13 02:32:54 I don't see a new beta in my mailbox Jul 13 02:32:56 :) Jul 13 02:33:09 but i thank haeffb, and also anyone else who listens to me. even though i don't deserve it sometimes. Jul 13 02:33:52 huh? Jul 13 02:33:58 what'd ya say? Jul 13 02:33:59 * PatrickC ducks Jul 13 02:34:45 if all goes well, i should have my multi-stage wildn video poker app ready w/ chat pop-out stage in an hour Jul 13 02:34:54 fxspec06: as a developer, my favorite users are the ones who complain the most Jul 13 02:34:59 they make stuff better Jul 13 02:35:07 yep Jul 13 02:35:09 that they do Jul 13 02:35:14 fxspec06: be sure to send it my way :) Jul 13 02:35:36 sure thing boss Jul 13 02:35:41 lol Jul 13 02:35:53 the game is *very* nice looking for js Jul 13 02:36:02 whatcha use for graphics? Jul 13 02:36:03 right after i finish redrawing the mona lisa Jul 13 02:36:10 uhm photoshop Jul 13 02:36:13 and eyeballs Jul 13 02:36:49 lol Jul 13 02:38:16 * halfhalo yawns Jul 13 02:38:45 :D it's all me. i spent loads of time changing tiny tiny tiny things getting it to look perfect. i'm mr. ocd Jul 13 02:40:52 lol Jul 13 02:41:03 halfhalo: so, when do you start? Jul 13 02:41:35 oh thats a new one Jul 13 02:41:39 this time it crashed because i won Jul 13 02:41:51 guess i shouldnt do that either Jul 13 02:44:25 w00000t Jul 13 02:44:39 almost... converted........ Jul 13 02:49:10 haeffb: hey, are you around? Jul 13 02:51:31 PatrickC: next week hopefully Jul 13 02:51:54 halfhalo: new job? Jul 13 02:52:01 internship Jul 13 02:52:17 awesome, where? Jul 13 02:52:23 halfhalo: awesome Jul 13 02:52:30 fxspec06: converted to enyo?! Jul 13 02:52:37 the company formerly known as palm Jul 13 02:52:53 ah that's great - what type of job? Jul 13 02:53:06 making cool stuff Jul 13 02:53:47 halfhalo: congratulations on officialness Jul 13 02:55:00 thanks. now playing the waiting game for housing Jul 13 02:55:55 more of a design job or development? Jul 13 02:56:08 engineering stuff Jul 13 02:56:23 very cool - congrats Jul 13 02:58:10 thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 02:59:56 2011